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>You are not a beta tester
https://treeofsavior.com/

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5 (embed)

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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first for best girl
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1st for game is going to be released with awful as fuck balance and horribly designed stats that make no sense

bow to our swordsman overlords
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>>121864873
about goddamn time swordies are the apex predators in korean grindfests goddamn archers taking the spotlight every time
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Why are people rolling dedicated support builds when this game scales in such a way that everyone can solo everywhere?
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Xth for 50 Exp cards saved until I can do level 90 dungeon.
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>>121864951
Give examples, archers get the shaft in most mmos.
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I just want party chat to be fixed
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This
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>>121864979
have played less than half of the game and is already making these assumptions
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How many hours till maintenance?
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>>121864979
Why does this game allow pure support builds and have numerous pure support classes and why are over 50% of the classes purely support/utility when DPS is all that matters, support is useless unless it adds more damage than another dps(linker) and everyone can solo?

The devs don't know what the fuck they're doing is why.
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>>121865051
Ragnarok Online
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>>121865051
>ranged dps
>ever getting shafted

bruh...
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>>121864873
>>121864951
RODELERO
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>>121865269
>oh my god 1 class out of 5 overpowered classes suck on my swordsman CALL 911
Meanwhile archer has 1 good class in the entire fucking "tree" and wizard has like 3
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>>121865246
>ranged being a thing in this game
Ranged has literally no advantages in this game over melee. There is no "ranged", simply "swordsman which get enough base hp that they can put all stat points into damage"
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>>121865246
archer was trash tier in tera for years and only recently got bumped up to mid.
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>finally made it pass C1 Cyro
>picked Psyco cause muh ice wall pressure
life still not that much better outside of bossing it seem
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>>121864951
tfw your sub-class isn't part of the generalizated overpoweredness.
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>>121864738
Explain further
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Which would be faster to grind?
BR C3 or Highlander C3->Corsair?
I guess we have a shot in Saule server for rank 6, the top 10 has only 7361 points by now and the average is really low (2037pt).
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>>121865660
br

dont need to aim shit
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>>121865660
>highlander into corsair
for what reason, corsair is dual wield autoattack based and highlander is 2h skill based........
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Is he the cutest boy in ToS?
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>>121864873
"bow" heh
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Anybody got a shine bracelet recipe in gabija lying around?
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Almost tempted to use these but then I hear the horrors of 170+. The exp resets at 136 right? That's not even that bad really. Plus I'm caught up with my MQ.

Also does anyone know if there are quests in this area? Residence of the Fallen Legwyn Family. There's shit to interact with but no indication of them being quest. Maybe not implemented yet?
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>>121865581
Cryo is absolute fucking garbage, start over and go pyro.

Actually, start over and go swordsman.
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>>121865969
I already have C2 Pyro at lv 65
just want to retry how it is if I go the other way

I also have lv 38 highlander tho
not sure if I should have gone C2 swordman for Memedagger build
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I wanna be a Thaumaturge
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>>121865960
It's a grinding dungeon so there's only events and stuff like that. If you're on Gabija and want to grind at that place for a bit, let me know.
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>>121864254
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Can they just remove the stupid bullet hell shit? It's not interesting and usually I just stand there and kill them.
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in RO archers/hunters were only good for fast level-up and PVE stuff, but were generally bottom tier in PVP situations, especially war of emperium were they were just there to cover the floor with ankle snares

kind of ironic that they're shit for leveling, but i presume they will be good in PVP as general dickasses, especially against magic users
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>>121865769
Fencer memedagger reason.
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Where do silver bars drop from/how much are they usually?
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>>121866391
Highlander is a waste if you're taking Fencer
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>>121866240
are u jesus
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The is pet shared between characters?
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Xth for Zemyna is still kill
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Is it possible to hit rank 6 if I roll a new char now? Even with the broken parties/dungeons/market and being only able to play ~6 hours a day?
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>>121866512
You mean highlander c3 or even c1?
Because I don't see a point picking Sword C2. Are you implying that I should pick Peltasta hot costume?
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>>121866549
if you play on saule
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>>121866549
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>>121866670
if you go corsair, the entire 2h stuff is wasted
if you go sword2, you can get lvl 10 gungho/concentrate
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>>121866209
Ah gotcha, know what to do for the event?

I'm gonna be out for a bit but when I come back I would def grind here for a bit. If you're still on by then i'll ask in the general.

So this does actually drop here
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How are you supposed to trigger the secret quest in Crystal Mines lot 2?
I did every quest in the previous Crystal Mines and I'm lvl 100, but I can't get it to start.
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Barb C3 or Corsair for 5th Class
SM>HL>BarbC2
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>game can no longer be a glorified chat service like every other MMO by any means

See you next beta
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>>121866519
Soon
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>>121866957
do you wanna play corsair or doppel
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>>121866831
Looks like another one of those defend the object from waves of mobs. I haven't found where it is exactly since I just started grinding here myself.

There's also a chest on the corridor elevated a level up. You need a key or something to open it though.
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>>121867061
Not sure, doppel seems so far away
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when's the next international beta
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>>121867156
nigga do you wanna play doppel or corsiar
barb c3 if you want doppel
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>>121866812
But I'm going Barb C3, in the hope for fencer.
Is Cartar lv.5 still worth or it turns to shit past barb c2? Because, I wouldn't mind picking peltasta only for the costume, I guess.
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>>121864854
Huge hands, probably a man
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I'm really loving Hoplite should I get it to C3?

I have C1 swordsman C1 Pesta C1 Hoplite
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>>121867003
>After ten thousand years, I'm free! Time to conquer Earth!
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>>121867360
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>>121867156
corsair is garbage until c2
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>>121867258
fuk it Barb C3 it is then
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>tfw as bokor i can raise zombies from killing boss spawned traps
>tfw traps are actual beings of life
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So can you only do party quests five times for a character or is it five daily?
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>>121866919
pls respond
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>>121867736
total, don't waste those runs
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If I'm soloing a dungeon and I leave to buy more potions or something what happens? Will it be just as I left it when I get back?
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im going to bed, wake me up when market works
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>>121867880
Pretty sure once you leave, it closes the instance. You can do it with party members if there's still someone left inside though.
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Can someone give me the quickie on a build for monk? Like stats and path Cleric3>Paladin>Monk?
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>>121868094
Cleric1>Priest3>Monk
Cleric1>Priest2>Paladin1>Monk
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>Desert Chupabara ears literally explode off when they die
>%0.2 drop rate
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Here lies >>121867978 - "wake me up when market works"
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>>121868094
Going more than 1 cleric is retarded, theres nothing good from C2. Do Cleric 1 > Priest 3 > Monk 2, Priest 3 for the Sacrament and Blessing + the extra sht that comes with it. That shit is OP.
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How do you get in the inaccessible area in Royal Mausoleum 4F?
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When should I use my lv 6 cards? Lv 110 here
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>>121867736
what exactly are party quests. what's this?
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>>121868196
>>121868310
Alrighty thanks
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>>121864979
Honestly i wanted a change of pace.
But i clearly realized the game is a dps fest.

Good thing i went linker thauma and those are basically the ultimate support atm due to dps increase.
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>>121867269
>Is Cartar lv.5 still worth or turns to shit past barb c2?
This.
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>>121868394
whenever 6 cards aren't important, save your 7s though
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What is the best music track in the game, and why is it bodacious definition?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYngJlfp1GQ

Also anyone wanna do the lv90 dungeon? Sadhu who needs some exp here.
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>>121867269

Peltasta also gives you +18% evasion, which is great for a Fencer.
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Level 1 monk's iron skin with maxed attribute does literally 0 damage to anything.
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>>121867786
cant tell if trolling or not
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>>121867269
Yes Cartar is worth, still using it for bosses at 120 hitting crits for like 2-3k each time
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>>121868658
That song is shit, though.
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I need tips for gold farming.
Can you help me, guys?
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>>121868785
It's also bugged and makes you invulnerable for the channeled duration from all attacks instead of just physical melee attacks.
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>>121865484
>hurr durr hp means something

of course this is why almost everyone goes dex and leather and the crazy priests with plate mastery have more hp.
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dis gaem is teh suxx0rz -_-
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>>121868846
By comparison, how much on Seism/Cleave?
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Is it just me or does the house in Card Battle have a massive advantage?

>Guy comes to my table
>Loses 4 times in a row
>"Seems legit"
>Walks away angrily
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Anyone have the sword Kozuka for sale?
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When would be the perfect time to level a companion?
Together with a lv.1 alt?
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>>121868687
>went pelt 3
>wanted to go fencer

could of made it worked. but slow, fucked up my gear (rokas plate) and grind walls killed my fun.
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am i really not supposed to bust my exp cards as soon as i get them?
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>due to broken IPF files.
They still haven't fixed this shit
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
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>running at 200 fps
>drop crystal powder on stealth vubbes
>0 fps for 5 seconds
>die
Fucking Korean programming.
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>>121869129
Seism is really strong since you use Cleave>Seism>Seism and crit like a mad man. Usually can one shot almost all mobs.
but Cleave>Cartar>Cleave>Catar destorys bosses with crits too.
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>>121869331
Only after the EXP curve resets.
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I made it

took fucking forever, time to Awaken some shit
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>>121869527
first on the server? never seen one
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>>121865778
that's not Rexipher
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>>121869358
chink bypass
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>want to make a new char
>150k on old char
>no friends to transfer the money
Life is suffering.
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>>121869454

how do i tell when that happens
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>>121869584
I'm on Laima, and there's a guy who's already been gem roasting for a couple days
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>>121869593
I'm going to marry Rexipher.
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>>121869284
Don't use your money if you're not playing a pet class. They're retarded, do 1 damage and die instantly in boss fights.

They pull mobs from you when you're trying to group them up to AoE.
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Somebody give me a new documentary to listen to while grinding, preferable about history
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>>121869527
What server, I wanna try the item world.
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>>121869527
Tell me the info senpai!

Can you open a Briquetting shop? Can you awaken other people's items without trading them over? What potions can you make at lvl 1 Tincturing? Does combustion explode every nearby item or just one?

I know you're only class level 1 probably but I can wait ;_;
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>>121869676
I can help you anon. You don't have to trust me, I'll give your new char the 150k first and then you log in to the old char.
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>>121869686
check the EXP tables on TOSbase.
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>>121869676
Vend some silly shit on new char with 150k, log in on other char and buy it
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Does anyone know what Fencer skills work while mounted? I have an idea for a crazy build but I need to know what I can do while riding something. All the lists I can find don't mention fencer at all.
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>>121869902
Never mind, this >>121869987 is a smarter thing to do!
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>>121869902
B-But I'm on Saule, bro.

>>121869987
That is actually great, thanks.
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>>121869331

Yes, stop using them at lvl 50/90/130/etc and don dungeon instead for 10 or 15 levels
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>>121869717
Where do you guys roast gems? I haven't seen any alchys and I'm on Laima too
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Swordsman>Swordsman>barb>barb>corsair?
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mfw someone actually bought my party for 150k
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>>121868239
That is because there is only a 0.2% chance you don't just pulverise the damn thing and it becomes salvageable for use.
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>>121870274
Yes. It is the approved Korean path.
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>>121870270
he has a roasting shop open in Fedimian right now
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>>121870317
>mfw I hijack a random public party and kick everyone out
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>>121870317
Were you the retard outside forest of prayer?
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Should I keep pumping into dex or should I give str some love too? I'm lvl 65 btw.
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>>121870317
>people buying parties two hours before maintenance and a probable fix or more broken shit
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>>121870691
1:1 ratio. Unless you aren't going C2 for full uptime on finestra.
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>>121870618
no, sold mine in kali
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Is the lv 50 dungeon still worth doing at 73~?
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>>121870794
I'm staying hoplite for as long as possible so yeah.
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why does my zaibas do barely any damage on simorph?
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>>121868961
So it's like safety zone except shorter duration and it doesn't protect allies and you can't do anything and it costs more Sp and has a longer CD...
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Is there ANY reward for beta testers?
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https://youtu.be/KrqNLm-4EDM

I hope they remove the silly bullet hell moves. Wouldn't have mattered much, but just standing still doing nothing for 60% of a boss' HP is just silly.
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>>121866919
p-pls respond
I'm completely out of ideas and I'm assuming it's bugged at this point.
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>>121871046
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This game looks great but I'm too dumb to sign up for a beta key.
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>>121871176
are you talking about the 1 for the +1 dex potion?
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>>121842754
Quarrel Faggot Blog # 4

Level 40 at Tenant Chapel B1

-Running into trouble on maps with a lot of mobs, oblique shot to unpredictable, luring mobs when they're too close together
-Stone shot and oblique shot are my default auto attack
-Poala aoe attack takes half my health away
-Bosses starting to summon multiple adds and keeps spamming them sometimes
-Full draw proving to be far more useful than originally thought, CC for mobs
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>>121871407
Yeah.
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playing a krivis:

>drop your two zaibas
>run around for 30 seconds
>drop two more

what the FUCK were they thinking
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>Tfw you like hitting shit with your shield but rodelero is a meme class
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>>121871579
I see you haven't played wizard yet!
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>>121871735
>Cryomancer
>use icepike twice
>the mob isn't even dead yet
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Where can i find the cow ears?
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>>121871673
Check out the attributes on Peltasta's high guard. It boosts your shield bash damage by 350%.

Also just so you know, if you check it on tosdatabase, the required skill level for the attribute is for umbo blow or rim blow, not high guard.
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>>121869284
If you can start it on a level 1, do so.

>>121869808
Sounds like your pet is underleveled. On my hunter mine hits for 1000+ and crits around 1500-1600, and on my other characters it does about half that amount. I assume there is a passive for hunters that increases damage, but I'm guessing the damage formula in this game takes level in to account, which is why level 1 pets are terrible.
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/20068/

Combed a fucking forest talking to wooden statues and now I'm looking everywhere for a damn pothole please send help.
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>>121871747
>warrior
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>tfw 2 wizard blade recipes in 30s
So uh, anyone wanna buy?
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Yo what skills do I care about in the Highlands c1?

Going sword - highlander - barb 3

what do I focus on?
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>>121871841
First area in game. Level 3 chest.
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>>121870724
are you sure they were going to do maintenance today?
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>>121869881
Okay, so I just tried to awaken a level 170 Welsh Staff for kicks. Entered the Item world and it spawned enemies in waves. They started at 187 and went up to 200. (I'm 179) I lost count of how many waves there were, but after a while the boss Stone Whale showed up. He one-shotted me and then it kicked me out of the instance. -1 potential

The dungeon does not give exp.
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Guys im level 78 and grinding at royal mausoleum 1F is boring as shit, im fucked if i pop my cards now right?
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Holy fuck what is this jew price
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>>121872043
Weekly maintenance is Tuesdays, 1-5am EST
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>>121872075
Awaken a dunkel sword with the attribute to see if it is really 20% damage per level.
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>>121872178

todays monday
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I've finally awoken to how great afk grinding with kneeling shot is
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>>121872168
How much does it cost the alchemist?
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>>121872178
ah right, i forgot about weekly maint
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>>121871540
here ya go, senpai
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>>121871878
IIRC it's where the glowing mushrooms are along the path between the entrance and Neuoder field.
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>>121872258
I've no idea
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>>121871457
Fulldraw is the shit, love when they get threaded
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Laima is kill

Thank god, Now I'm out of prison
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>>121872223
Do you not understand how time works?
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>>121872219
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>>121872223
time zones anon, so 1,5hrs till main right?
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Selling Golden Falchion, Spiked Club, Strength Necklace and Cafrisun set on Gabija.

Anyone interested?
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>>121872309
and i forget the fucking link

http://ameblo.jp/tsuyucchi/entry-12086684212.html
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>>121872168
Ignore that jew. The price is going to plummet once more alchemists start popping up and the stat boost isn't worth that much anyways.
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>>121872075
Ouch. Looks like I'll be bringing a buddy on my Alchemy adventures.
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>>121872168
Supply and demand
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>>121871457
>-Full draw proving to be far more useful than originally thought, CC for mobs
And that's how I know Quarrel is shit. You wouldn't even need to use it if you went another archer class.

>>121872335
The threaded debuff doesn't do anything besides share the damage one of them takes with the other. It doesn't work like Linker's Joint Penalty. If you do 500 to a mob and then thread it with another monster, now you'll do 250 to one mob and 250 to the other.
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>>121871457
How do you keep so much money
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>>121870448
>he fell for the korean meme

sword2barb2 is their equivalent of memelander

come on anon
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What is Best Stats and Class for Solo
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>>121872320
FINALLY THANK YOU SO MUCH
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>>121872146

You only have to worry about saving exp cards at level 130+ and instances
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>>121872656
sword
be strong
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>>121872168
Luckily for Archers the -accuracy means nothing.
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>>121871847
>Hoplite has an attack that benefits from stagger
>Rodelero does not

Also thanks for clearing up the high guard level thing, i always wondered why it was like that
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>>121872589
Haven't upgraded the damage attributes yet but gotten useful ones, and only using it for weapon upgrades-pots
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>>121872465
Oh god I love you.
I thought it was the purifiers on the 2nd lot floors.
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he's up on gabija
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>>121872447
how much for golden falchion?
whats the item lvl btw?
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Anyone have 8 Vikaras Core? Royal Maus is too crowded and I can't be bothered.
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>yfw maintenance only fixes translation errors and typos.
>and reintroduces the nerf to NPCing items and teleport & repair costs.
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Wait, there isn't anything in the Royal Mausoleum chest?
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>>121872696
Thanks Senpai
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>>121872993
http://tosdatabase.net/us/item/102104/

90k
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>>121872561
But the C3 quarrel skill would be good in theory if you go rogue.

>The threaded debuff
-50% defense in tosbase tolltip doesn't have it, but noticed an increase on attack when they're threaded (placebo maybe). Will try this at tenant 2f since the machine guys have high defense
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At what level am I supposed to get out of prison/start using my level 7/8 cards, again?
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>>121873089
hopefully they don't fix duping, its the only fun im having with this game
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>fight a lvl1 yonazolem at mage tower floor4
Was that a bug?
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>>121873089
Im so happy that the DIC error was fixed so i now can know that im getting a IPF error
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>>121873160
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>>121873194
That's with the attribute. Like I said, if you're having to use it to get -50% on two mobs then it just proves my point of Quarrel being shit.
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>have level 34 attribute Blessing
>happen to cast it next to another priest
>she says "ahahaha is this a joke"
>cast her blessing
>it's a level 50 attribute Blessing
well I'm sorry I literally started this priest yesterday!
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>>121873401
I've done it with a boss and its mob so, its useful by my experience.
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>>121873561
Better than having the "helpful" priests who run by you and cast their unlevled blessing right after you used yours.
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so anon, what is the best boss to camp for right after maintenance for lv 91?
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is this a joke
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>>121873561
kek


>battle priest joins my party
>FS priest joins my party
> the battle priest supports and has high level attributes than the FS one

Every time
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>>121873263
explain further
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Got 2 spots on prison party gabija
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>>121873798
I'm triggered
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Can I use my cards for anything useful
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What in the name of what is holy is that fucking Corruptor boss?
That shit summons so much of those things that it is surreal. I can't fucking land a magic missile or barely cast eletrocute on it. Jesus Christ.
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>>121874074
Are you a Sorcerer or Necromancer? If yes, they affect your primary summon, mainly its stats and attacks. If no, then only to card battle
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>>121874149
tfw 1 shot it with stabbing
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I made a Dievdirby and the SP Statue is reducing SP like it should, I thought people in the thread said it doesn't work?
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>>121874149
>goes wiz3
>doesn't use surespell
for what reason then?
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>>121874149
I don't see why people have a problem with boss summons. Just fucking kill them, Jesus.
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>>121874008
>thinking /vg/ ever explains exploits
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>>121874325
Let me guess, you play a BRbarian.
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>>121874317
I do use supercell and have max atribute on quickcast damage bonus. But even so, magic missiles, which is my primary damage source, can't hit the boss since there are so many targets that he never stops summoning, and everything else takes so fucking long that I get damaged like crazy from those gusting faggots.
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>>121874149
i did this as a scout, probably about the same level as you
git gud
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>tfw crystal mines lot 2 gives you 4-6% exp a minute as sapper
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>>121874014
Do you accept leeches?
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>>121874459
No, I play a Priest. Though I guess Wizards would have a tough time. They have AoE spells and probably can take out adds before too many spawn. I still don't see the problem.
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>>121874325
>Just kill them
>He never stop summoning them
>What is mana
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Why is it so hard to get some decent leather pants/shoes at 120?
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>>121872465
very useful link ty
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>>121874639
Pyro here, can confirm no issues.
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>>121874656
no they all stop summoning eventually
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>>121874345
Come on anon-kun, you don't want those cards anyway.
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>>121874663
It's all outclassed by early stuff anyway
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>>121874734
I thought so too, until he flooded the screen with summons and kept summoning them. I fought him for over 20 minutes and he never stopped summoning even after I almost cleared.
This is just silly, I'll look for help.
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>>121874656
Target lock on boss and jump autoattack to victory, or is that a way too advanced technique for you?
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Does everyone go Archer C2 for every archer build?
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>>121874149
>>121874483
Press CTRL when targetting him, press TAB to switch targets
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Anyone wanna do party quests with me? I'm lonely.
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You niggas need to stop jewing so hard
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>>121874918
I instantly went Ranger C3 and had fun, especially with flying bosses
Currently a 133 Fletcher WAITING FOR DUNGEON
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>>121874953
Magic missiles hit random targets
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>>121874447
The rich get richer baka desu senpai....
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I feel like going priest 2 >pally>monk
Convince me otherwise.
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>>121874639
>I play an autoattacker
>I wonder why people have problems with adds
>>>/trash/
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Well then bye guys was fun while it lasted. Time for some fallout...
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I'm guessing sorcerer's Riding is where people get the most out of the Grimoire? Outside of Riding's skillsets, which cards actually have decent default attacks?
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>>121875216
ok
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>>121875109
Ehh, I just went in solo. The dungeon isn't that hard so far.
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>>121875063
Show me your cunny
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>>121875262
nuek the commonwealth
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>>121875218
Priest is only my main. I also have a Peltasta and QS. Never had problems with adds
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>>121875339
But senpai, that's bad.
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