Unbalanced Edition
>League of Explorers Adventure:
http://eu.battle.net/hearthstone/en/expansions-adventures/league-of-explorers/
>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/adwcta/videos
>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com/
http://hearthrank.com/
>Watch and learn quest
https://sites.google.com/site/hsgresources1/battletags/
>Deck Tracker:
https://github.com/Epix67/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases
Stream for jewcon where
What decks run Refreshment Vendor?
I jerked off to the art for Savage Combatant
Hhhrhnnnnn mhmmm hehehe murlocs Mhrhmmm hrnnn
Why do they let the stroke guy speak every fucking time
>>121596147
None, it's a terrible card
Where is the video upload of Brode revealing the adventure? I want to see his autistic seizures.
>>121596148
how
why is this game so bad
>>121596147
Control Rogue
Can use in Priest with Holy Champion
Any midrange deck instead of Shredder if you're losing to aggro more than you're losing to control
>>121596147
The Mechazod tavern brawl deck.
>>121595843
FFS you know how to fix aggro? I know, give every hero 40 health instead of 30.
How do I make a face warrior deck?
Isn't the fireside chat now?
stream where?
>first game of the day
>play fun gimmick deck
>play against dude with good deck with multiple legendaries
thanks MMR
>>121596147
i've lost to a handlock running it as a freeze mage
i think it was more the suprise than the actual value of the card, but still
>>121596380
>remove all combo decks from the game
nice
Aggro meta is shit
but control isn't the way
for this meta to change
WE
NEED
TO
GO
FASTER
>>121596286
Why you keep playing it
>>121596438
Best game on the market don't worry
Seriously stop playing this shitty game
How to start fixing the aggro meta:
>Taunt can no longer be silenced
>Summoning sickness lasts two turns.
If you gain minions on the opponent's turn (like deathrattles) you can't use them on your next turn.
Please tell me why my ideas are bad.
>people that play CW but dont have all golden cards
PATHETIC, its like having a Lexus without custom number plate.
>>121596496
I don't think you can get much faster than a druid turn 4 kill
>>121596397
by shoving a knife in your throat
>>121596397
Weapons
Executes
Leper gnomes
Arcane golems
Tons of armor
And some draw, battle rage or something
>>121596380
Raise min size to 50 so it can't be consistentthen I realized control would be even less consistent hurr durr
fireside chat stream where? The one from yesterday is showing some diablo shit, seems to be a rebroadcast.
>>121596529
>How to start fixing the aggro meta:
Give people gold based on enemies killed, damage done to enemy heroes, and healing done to your own hero
Now all of a sudden playing control games means you can still make good gold even if you lose.
>>121596518
nothing better to play atm
i hate blizzard but their games are so polished
The actual way to fix the aggro meta:
Card sets rotate out like every other card game
You can still play your Knife Jugglers and Animal Companions and Force of Natures in casual
Ranked you can only play cards released in the last year
They can slowly shift away from fast decks instead of releasing irrelevant shit because only 1-3 cost cards matter anymore
>>121596529
Remove silence from the game
>Try brawl one more time before its gone
>Still a steaming pile of shit'
Worst brawl ever
Ayyyyy yet another sperglord in a management position on the Hearthstone team. No wonder everything is so shit.
>>121596529
Because you're retarded
Changing entire game mechanics just to kill one type of deck sounds like something a Blizz dev would do.
Two turns of summoning sickness would be paradise for control and make every game incredibly boring and long
You can easily shift the meta by introducing 1-2 cards that are good against aggro and it'll sort itself out
tldr; end yourself
The aggro age is soon over. Control priest with enough anti-aggro will shit on everything.
>>121596286
Because you use boring cards
>>121596871
this card is fucking garbage are you serious.
>>121596816
Its worse today because all the kids are home from school, and they are fucking terrible at playing a game that requires thinking
>>121596748
>nothing better to play atm
this
and with all these blockbuster games coming out as disappointments a second gaming crash is really what we need.
>>121596496
Played some fast rogue for my daily the other day, fun deck.
stream for fireside shit
http://goodgame.ru/channel/Merula/
http://goodgame.ru/channel/Merula/autoplay/
here's a stream.
>>121596780
>let's diversify the meta by taking out two thirds of the card pool
You're an idiot.
>>121596935
>assassinate that silences and puts a good card in your deck
>bad
???????????
>>121596871
>6 mana
>the era of aggro is over
What
Am I missing something here?
>>121596871
How the fuck is entomb anti aggro are you retarded?
You going to spend 6 mana to remove a single 2 mana minion?
>>121597024
>>121597085
You can play heavy anti aggro priest while that card shits on the other decks. It's not rocket science.
Is priest the best class in the game? Not in terms of overall win rate in the meta or whatever, but in terms of rewarding the player for having smart decision making largely compared to other classes?
Woo the fuck is this Tavern Brawl Is Great powerpoint for? We've all played it. Show us something fucking new Blizzard.
How to kill aggro decks:
Give priests some kind of 2 damage board clear.
>>121597159
Freeze/Oil Rogue
I just started playing and have 12 dollars in credit. What should i buy? I already bought like 10 basic packs, should i continue buying basic or spend the rest on GT or GvG?
>>121596998
Have you ever played any card game ever? The mode where you're always allowed to play every card always becomes "win on turn 1 or 2" because you can play the best fast cards ever made. Hearthstone has been heading that way with every new set.
Why do you think everyone is going "all these new cards are SHIT", they can just play their old fast cards and win.
>>121596871
>6 mana to add a Leper Gnome to my deck
Ebin.
is there even anyone in the audience?
the one game where I did not pay a cent and able to play any deck I wish, yet they are killing it with shit mechanics and cards
>>121597085
>>121597024
I think, what he mant is:
Priest is allready good class against aggro, the only thing that stopped people from playing priest was lack of really hard removal in mid game. So now with the addition of this card, priest will be more played. Thus why "the days of aggro are over"
>>121597128
Death and lightbomb are largely better than it friend.
Entomb is very situational in that you need removal AND silence on a single high cost minion
I mean its great for like.. rhonin or maybe a tony so you can get fireballs later but I'd rather remove for 3 mana than 6 mana or remove all than to entomb.
Stream is up lads
http://www.twitch tv/playhearthstone
>>121597159
>have dragon in hand
>put down a 2 mana 2/4 with taunt on turn or even turn 1 with coin
REWARDING DECISION-MAKING
>>121596916
arena cunt?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Rea37TGQwcr
somebody posted this on /v/
no cyka talking on this one
>>121596780
Only Magic does that.
>>121596967
thanks m8!!
>>121597217
Do you mean under 5 mana or what?
>>121597446
but next turn you can attack it into a minion that it overpowers and decide whether to heal it or play another minion
the consequences of choosing either one are very dire and significant
>>121597315
>was lack of really hard removal in mid game
You mean death?
You mean voljin?
You mean circle/auch?
You mean Lightbomb?
What the fuck would you drop for it?
>>121597568
You're right, silly me
>>121597558
Ideally 3 mana, and I mean only damage your opponents minions and nothing else.
>>121597352
Yeah it's a situational card for CW/Freeze heavy metas.
Pfft I can't even type that with a straight face.
>>121597558
>get shit on turns 1-4
>play this to clear
>your whole turn goes to this
Why does the new card even exist
>stream switching to SC2 panel
SEND HELP
>>121597630
>give priest a better consecrate
oy vey its anuddah shoah
>>121597630
how about you stop asking for board clears on the class that has the most
>>121597865
Lesson learned, never trust Russians.
Whats the point of this nerd Explaining this meem brawl?
>>121597941
It's interesting insight if you're not a total ignoramus.
Name a more OP 2 drop
Pro-tip, you can't
>bunny rabbit card
Wolpertinger you mongoloid
>>121597941
is he even talking to anyone
Anything important gonna be said in this stream?
>>121598050
Wyrmrest Agent
that was hard
> most popular Brawl is Randomonium
Anti-RNG faggots BTFO.
>>121598050
Mad Scientist
>>121598050
Mad scientist is prob on par.
>>121598050
>coin minibot
>druid plays aspirant
>play abusive or get kekked by shredder
>>121598134
Its popular because
1)Kinda fun
2)F2P players had place to farm gold and dont get bullied
3) EPIC MEMES THAT I CAN POST ON REDDIT FOR KARMA
>Nothing but dragon priest faggots in ladder
>None take my friend requests to call them skilless faggots
>nef vs rag next week
>nefarian has 1 less mana crystal
rofl
they are fixing rag vs nef :^) one less mana for nef
>>121598259
But you lost...
>>121598050
>2/2 for 2 with Divine Shield
>2/2 for 2, Deathrattle: Draw a 2-3 mana card and play it for free
Hmmmmmm I wonder which is better...
>>121598267
>>121598265
I wish they'd tell us what the winrate for that brawl was. Nef had an edge but I can't imagine it being a bigger split than 60-40
>>121598112
If you actually played dragon priest you'd understand that wyrmrest agent isn't as strong. Especially on priest.
>>121598050
Mad scientist, solely due to the neutral factor and value
>>121597895
wat
>>121598376
yeah okay
>>121598267
I had 100% winrate as both Nef and Rag so it's fine
In b4 "you only played 2 games" I played like 5 which is more than the average player for sure
What's your favorite deck and why should I bother playing it?
Entomb is a great card, just no in this meta. It's a strictly better version of Recycle, and arguably stronger than polymorth.
It is silence and removal, coupled with the fact that you can entomb enemy god tier cards like Tirion and use them yourself later on.
It makes Priest in control vs control matchups even stronger. That's why the card is "bad" in this meta, but overall it's a great card.
>>121596816
You mean you haven't gotten your free pack every week?
How stupid are you
torch seems like it's going to be amazing. ethereal conjurer seems alright, actually. and the animated armour is even more anti face tools for mage, i like the mage expansion a lot.
>random
>random
>random
>random
>random
Is it me or this weeks brawl is hard as fuck?
>>121598447
I like my backyard deck. There's a nice oak stain on it that makes it look very nice at sunsets.
>>121598453
It's not a strictly better card than recycle. It increases your deck size which is generally bad whereas recycle essentially denies your opponent a new draw.
They both do slightly different things, wouldn't call either strictly better.
>>121598447
Deathrattle shaman, because you can't stop the nerubian egg onslaught.
I beat a control warrior once because I pulled off a combo that gave me 4 shredders and he had already blown his brawls like a dunce.
>>121598453
How 's it bad? The meta is filled with TIrions.
>>121598631
post dick
>>121598447
my own version of majordomo/burn mage. it's good because it's pretty dank to do 10 damage to them via only hero power in one turn.
>nat pagle is real
hearthstone has the biggest meme dev team ever
>>121598562
many on /hsg/ complained about it being too hard
i won about 80% so i think its easy, dont know what you guys have problems with except some variance
>>121598447
Control priest.
"No: the deck" when it actually works.
>>121598562
You can get steamrolled easily if you're unlucky with draws or he boosts his attack too early too often.
>>121598562
It's just you. Git gud.
>>121598638
and wallet warrior faggots
>we think a lot about randomness in the game and how it makes it fun
God I am so far away from this game's target audience I might as well be on Mars
>>121598706
Was he being serious?
Also get ready for the cringe, Q&A time.
>How to kill aggro
Just play deathlords. You don't want to play them? Oh why not? It can stop aggro. What, the card is not cool enough? Alright then, greedy control shitter, you want something cool and powerful? Sure.
God I wanna bend this host over.
I have 400 dust, Cho, Flame leviathan, sneeds and a bunch of crappy epics like ancestors call and avenging wrath. Should i dust them (not sneeds) and craft a malganis for the only deck i have? (zoo)
>>121597263
If you don't have Naxxramas already, I'd you should get that before anything else.
>>121598781
>mode designed for fun
>most players when RNG elements are present
what can you make out from this?
>rng=fun
>>121597352
It's better than death against Sylvanas, Tirion and other deathrattle shitters
I'd say it's a decent card against other control decks.
>>121598608
Entomb is the strongest in control vs control, where increasing your deck size AND gaining an additional threat is absolutely amazing in every regard.
>>121598638
Sadly, if the only thing you do on turn 8 is entomb tirion and heal, you will get killed by what's left on the board from the last two turns (Dr Boom and Rey Mysterio).
Okay so this card is clearly shit, I should dust this and craft my twilight guardian right?
Anyone want to team up for the brawl? I have the damn brawl daily and need 2 more wins. Randoms just aren't cutting itsykone#1789
>>121598638
>entomb tirion
>doesn't matter because you're about to take 18 from challenger and army of dudes with avenge
MUH GOLDS
>>121599005
never dust legendaries
>Asian guy brushing his hand on Brode's shoulder like a woman would
Sexual tension
Golden Cards in Arena!
>>121598434
I will not say that because towards the end of it I really got used to how to approach the matchups
>>121599075
>not dusting acidmaw
i hope i fell for the bait
>>121598562
it is if you do it with randoms, otherwise, not at all; it needs communication
>>121598681
>>121599020
Entomb doesn't trigger avenge though
Can't believe I made it this far with hardly any earlygame to speak of. Maybe it's because of the weekend.
Unbound Elemental MVP, though.
Whats it gonna be boys?
>>121599075
Why not? I will never play this awful card anyway and I'm not some collectorfag who needs every card, I'm trying not to spend a bunch of money on this game.
Should I craft a legendary tech card that can go into a variety of decks or should I craft a card that is necessary to play a single deck? (Assuming its the last card I need to play that deck.)
>>121599274
ysera
How do people fit shit in their dragon priest lists? I'm at 0 lightbombs and just the 1 holy nova. Fucking hell man.
Link to russianless con stream?
I have 400 dust, Cho, Flame leviathan, sneeds and a bunch of crappy epics like ancestors call and avenging wrath. Should i dust them (not sneeds) and craft a malganis for the only deck i have? (zoo)
Havent won a single brawl yet, this fucki ng nigger bot keeps boosting himself high crazy
fuck this shit I tell you
>mfw being mage that runs almost every secret
>don't put mirror entity in my deck
>literally everyone plays around it
>handlock plays ancient watcher on turn 4 and it loses him the game
fucking kek
>>121599340
yes
>>121599194
How good is this?
>>121599337
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Rea37TGQwcr
> there must be games where Paladins play one secret every turn for the first 9 turns
>>121599274
Duplicate of a shitty leggo you've already opened and dusted.
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SO FUCKING CRINGEWORTHY
WHY DOES PLAYING FANTASY GAMES MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE A SOCIAL FUCKING RETARDED FAILURE
>>121599340
>cho
dust, although it might be fun in gimick decks
>flame leviathan
dust, complete garbage
>crappy epics
depends on the epic, you should list all of them
>>121599340
mal'ganis isn't that good in zoo right now imo
you either win by turn 7 or get btfo in the early
of course there's the dream situation where you just barely need the damage to push through and you had an implosion on the board last turn, or aggro vs aggro and the 7 health wins you the game
>>121599274
Onyxia
>>121599406
I had a paladin do that in arena a few days ago. Guess what he played on turn 6. Guess how many secrets he still had in his fucking deck.3
Whats happening on stream? Just the semi finals and finals?
>>121599396
>How good is this?
It's pretty standard death rattle shaman minus Sneed's because I don't have him.
It's top fun in casual, don't do it in ranked.
>well met
pfff hahaha
>>121599020
you 're not gonna entomb if you haven't managed to lower the power of the board the 2 turns before that
>>121598979
It's better than SW:Ding him. It's like heal for 15+ and add a great taunt and burst in your deck.
How many memes/10? I feel like memegos is underutilized in dragon priest, it's so easy to make him work as a late game finisher with dragon synergy. Even without him, smite is so good with double velens/azure/pyro, fucks up all the aggro shitters on ladder and I'm actually havingfun.
good starter decks for casul babbies wanting to get into ranked?
kill me
>>121599457
There's a reason why autists and social outcasts like fantasy, anon.
CRINGE
R
I
N
G
E
Pure cringe.
>Undertaker is dominating
>"just build decks against it" says blizz
>it doesn't work
>"new cards will fix it!"
>they don't
>blizz is forced to nerf the card until it's useless
>Patron is dominating
>"just build decks against it" says blizz
>it doesn't work
>"new cards will fix it!"
>they don't
>blizz is forced to nerf the card until it's useless
>Mysterious Challenger is dominating
>"just build decks against it" says blizz
Oh gee i wonder what's going to happen now.
>autists getting the chance to ask questions
Would any of these decks be good?
jesus those guys...
>>121599483
I have:
>FoN
sword of justice
avenging wrath
ancestors call
>doomhammer
enhance o mechano
>bgh
sea giant
southsea captain
i crafted sea giant as a cheap replacement for ganis
>>121599274
MOTHER FUCKER
>>121599687
>No Velen
WHO
GIVES
A
FUCK
ABOUT
FIRESIDE
GATHERINGS
BALANCE YOUR FUCKING GAME
>>121599637
>don't really play much pally
>get a 3x pally quest
>welp time to make a deck
>just throw in some random-ass earlygame with shredders
>every single game is along the lines of shielded minibot into turn 3 mustard bottles into stomp
>one game coin minibot into minibot on empty board
>enemy insta concedes and tries to add me
haha holy shit how is this allowed. a shitter like me went from r15 with straight to r6 in a few hours
>>121599754
>>121599769
>>121599790
>>121599804
What stream are you watching?
>>121599727
everyone will tell you face hunter or eboladin. cheap dust-wise and effective even at high levels of play, eboladin is probably better for you to start with if you're really new and don't have many cards and don't have the adventures yet. get naxx first, at least the first 4 wings.
>>121599687
>Memegos
>no meme blast
> no memy smemeit
wat
Rigged as fuck.
Why the fuck did the megazord keep overclocking?
What's the matter you don't like le ebin card games on motorcycles may may? XDDD
Holy fucking asperger's voice
>>121599906
>plays a game designed around rng
>ever expecting balance
Are you legitimately fucking retarded?
>asking questions about shit nobody cares about
>>121599550
You won that ofc?
I really cant see you losing that.
>>121599915
>tfw playing pally
>secure early advantage with ridiculous starts
>play justicar onto empty board
>from then on they have to waste aoe spells on my 2 mana hero power
It's like some sick bastard child of aggro and control. I think I'll call it...midrange.
>>121599901
I don't have velen and he doesn't have dragon synergy, I'm not sure I'd run him even if I owned him. The deck isn't all-in on the meme strategy anyways, it's just an end game thing that's nice to have after doing dragon shenanigans all game. That's the point. It's a non-intrusive, highly-synergistic end-game combo in what is already an extremely powerful and often aggressive deck.
Seltzer is a solid 9
anyone for watch and learn?
qwer#1997 NA
>>121599945
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Rea37TGQwcr
>>121599945
the q&a panel @ blizzcon
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Rea37TGQwcr
Would bend Seltzer over 2bh
>>121600134
in a world where 1 is hot and 10 is ugly, yeah
>>121599987
why the fuck is it called eboladin
>>121600195
I wouldn't mind cumming on her chin
I just realized
>that fat guy
>"I ALLREADY FORGOT THE NAME OF EXPANSION"
>the name of expansion is ON GIANT SCREEN BEHIND 4 DOODS
also
>woman
>I forgot what my quest was
>epic
ELOISE LOOKS LIKE SHES MELTING
>normal girl asks good question
take heed gaymr gruls
WORKING ON DECK SLOTS
GET HYPE
>THEY THINK WE'RE ADDING DECKSLOTS ANYTIME SOON
This UI question/answer was actually pretty nice.
>we don't have any plans on changing any cards in game right now
>more deck slots
FINALLY
Should I save for the adventure or just continue blowing my gold load on packs / arena? Are the adventure cards even going to be worth it?
>>121600349
>normal girl
>attending blizzcon
>Gentleman
>>121600019
Again, it's just a nice side combo to have for the late game, it's not all-in freeze priest or whatever the fuck you call it. Smite actually has use outside of the combo and has synergy with the other spell damage boost cards and wild pyro, so it's a natural fit for the deck.
Also idk wtf memy smemeit is.
>>121600389
I watched the GDC talk he's mentioning, I'd recommend it. It is very interesting.
What? You want us to actually try balancing cards?
Fuck off and buy our adventures and expansions. You'll take it up the ass and like it.
>people actually pay for this piece of shit game
>asking about card names
>not asking about balance
Take a moment here
>PEOPLE
>ACTUALLY
>PAYED
>60$
>TO LISTEN
>TO THIS SHIT
This deck is so much goddamn fun.
> his nickname was Huge Toad
>>121599906
If these are the kind of people at fireside gatherings just forget it, good lord Blizzard, why even try?
How the fuck do you "work on" adding deckslots? are you fucking kidding me? Just add them in you pieces of shit.
Did they only get genuinely retarded people on purpose because they feel bad for them?
>shitpostorm roping every turn
ayyy lmao
>>121600391
see
>>121599787
they need to go through the cycle first.
>old guy is a literal shieldbearer
>>121600702
They're probably instructed to rope for schedule fixing
>Donais thinks we'll see decks tuned to be good against Secret Paladin over time and that should help.
FINALLY META QUESTIONS
ANSWER THIS SHIT BEN
>>121600641
justicar into auchenai is a fucking blowout combo, its pretty good
>>121600697
i shudder to think what the spaghetti code is like if they can't go higher than 9. maybe it put's toadyone to shame.
>>121600734
>not shieldbreaker
don't worry guys, the game balances itself
>>121596468
>remove all combo decks from the game
Thank God. Combos suck nigger dick when there are no discard mechanics to avoid getting raped.
>>121600635
no wonder this game is still alive, people pay 10$ for a skin in a game that needed 2 years to balance one card
>>121600697
I know about a similar thing in WoW
The default backpack is 16 slots and other bags now have like 26+ slots, so people ask about a bigger backpack or being able to replace it
But turns out the backpack was coded in very early on and works differently from any other bag and when they tried changing it it literally broke the game
Might be some similar crazy in depth weird code
Any thoughts for my budget dragon priest deck? Any cards I should remove or must have.
>>121600641
This isn't that creative but hell yeah bro, I can't understand why people actually like dragons more, Paletress rules and all the control and AoE is so boss.
Why would they put Amaz and Firebat first when they have been dominating like mad King Kong all weekend? No drama at all. They already lost.
>CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES
>>121600946
The code is already in the mobile game. You can see the ability is there to scroll down farther, but you can't do anything.
>>121600973
>no sw:d
>no lightbomb
>hurtstone
>>121600973
dump at least one swp or shrinkmeister for swd since you don't run that 5 cost legend
>>121599457
as if you wouldn't act the same way while being streamed to 20k+ autistic faggots on twitch all talking shit about how autistic you are.
>>121600946
Same stuff happened in league of legends. Game was coded to include only 3 rune pages and apparently it was really hard for riot coders to add more rune pages
>>121600910
some of the most fun i've had in this game is ancestor's calling out a frothing or an emperor and destroying patron warrior's entire deck with a single 'discard'
>>121601010
Huh, then never mind. Also WoW is way older and based on even older games' code so HS really shouldn't have that problem (though it still could)
>>121600973
-1 sludge
-1 shrinkmeister
-1 shadow word pain
+1 azure drake
+2 shadow word death
>new expansion
>nothing to stop the aggroshit
>will be months until the next expansion
I think I might be done with this game for good. I wish it could be what it should bev a l u e gameSeriously, Entomb is a great fucking card that is almost useless right now because of the cancer this game has become
>More deck slots
How about putting that work towards stable servers or is it that much more important to save people time looking at their note pad and recreating their extra decks
>>121601132
well if you code thing X into league you break 10 champions and the store
so yeah
>>121601123
This isn't on Twitch. All panels are behind paywalls.
Just have Jackson glow yellow like other cards if he's going to work.
>>121600635
Weird way to spell 30$, but okay anon
This is my least favorite dev team ever holy shit.
"Alternate art scares me" WTAF?
Fuck you and I lived through Everquest.
>>121601181
is it literally just three classes? pally, mage and hunter that ruin the game for everyone that wants to play anything slower than turn 2 cards
That guy had an interesting point. What if they put something like HS Deck Tracker in game?
>>121601407
good idea
>>121601132
all this talk makes me feel much less bad about my own coding
ELOISE IS CUTE
A CUTE
That was a very useless panel. Basically, shit we already knew
Eloise a cute
I need to breed Eloise
>>121601419
u fucking wot m8? GERMANY GOT FUCKED AGAIN?