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Alicesoft/Rance General #463
Last thread: >>121521682
Helman to the rescue Edition

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/EkB5QZPc
Read the FAQ before you ask questions.

Alicesoft Image Booru: http://haniho.booru.org/
Rance Game Translation Chart:
http://haniho.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=654
Rance World Notes: https://mega.nz/#!nRESUJYZ!ZqoypfshkozVBFpeFGI3Oi5xBtU22SjnrnfjIo2SUGY

Remember to use spoilertags when discussing and posting images of plot elements, especially those of untranslated Rance games. Ignore and report any blatant shitposting, including nameshit
Check pastebin for FAQs, downloads and General Hints

Just Released
30th Oct 2015 - Blade Briders OVA (JAP)
Download: http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1853155

Up Coming Releases

29th Jan 2016 - Tsumamigui 3 (JAP)
Jan 2016 - Rance 01 OVA Ep 3 (JAP)

Recent Releases (See FAQ for downloads and info)

August 2015 - Rance 03 (JAP)
June 2015 - Rance 01 OVA Episode 2 (JAP/ENG)
April 2015 - Evenicle (JAP)
January 2015 - Mamatoto (ENG)
December 2014 - Rance 01 OVA Episode 1 (JAP/ENG)
October 2014 - Blade Briders (JAP)
September 2014 - Kichikuou Rance (ENG)
April 2014 - Rance IX (JAP)

Currently getting Translated:
Beat Blades Haruka - 80% (expect mid 2016)

On permanent hiatus unless localised by Mangagamer. Late 2016 at the earliest for the next Alicesoft game after Haruka.

Rance 5D - 100% translated,100% edited. Never to be released

Rance VI - 88.4% translated.

Rance Quest - 50% translated
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RIP previous thread
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>>121565450
It wasn't ninja jokes that killed us, it was football. Didn't see that coming.
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Last thread I wondered how the thread survived without me.

I go to uni for four hours to finish off my assignment and the thread dies
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Well reposting this for those who missed it

http://strawpoll.me/5940818/
Should we take part in the /vg/ simulated soccer league?

If so we have to come up with a team of 23 players.

We need a motto which for us will almost certainly be "Don't believe in their lies"

For the anthems and goal scoring song I suggest

Home Anthem - Force
Away Anthem - Ontology

Rance scores a goal - My Glorious Days
Anyone else scores - Going On
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>>121567837
Maybe do selections based on position?

Like have a vote on goalkeepers first with the top goalkeeper making the starting XI and the next two making the bench?

Some possible options could be

Rance Series
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1. King Hanny
2. Babolat
3. Cordoba
4. Amitos
5. Patton
6. Sen
7. Kou
8. Teru
9. Sachiko
10. Little Princess
11. Kentarou
12. Moscow
13. Lelyukov
14. Barres
15. Kanami
16. Feliss
17. Isis
18. Caesar
19. Hawzel
20. Pandas

And for non Rance

21. Ramius
22. Hatsune (uses webs)
23. Kakaro
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>thread 461 lasts a week
>thread 462 dies after 70 posts

Maria killed us


Do I have to tell you guys when I'm not around to bump so nobody assumes I'm going to do it?
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>>121568667
Probably my fault. It's around the time where I would have been there to bump the thread, but I slept in and no one else seemed to be around during that time too.
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>>121567148
I fell asleep after clicking submit, apparently a connection error caused the previous thread to die
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>>121569417
typical
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>>121569417
Are you Kanami?
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I want ludo back

I wish I wasn't so hard on him.
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>>121572107
He still does stuff as Reading Steiner
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>>121572107
Why would you want Ludo back?
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Well since this is a best human slave thread
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>>121572107
Why?
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>>121573116
>>121575395
ludo actually kinda cared about /hannyrape/ unlike our current "Translators"
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>>121575494
Ludo probably contributed to the plan of those you called "translators" though. He was, at the very least, friends with Aten.

About the only thing I really respect him for is ludo shack, and even that he half-assed like everything he did.
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>>121575297
how about a best slave thread?
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>>121575494
He cared enough to not translate Rance VI twice and 5D once. Or thrice and twice, if we count Aristoles and Aten.
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>>121575740
if ludo was all part of the master plan aru and maria wouldn't have thrown him to the gutter like that.

>>121575768
still more progress towards getting 5d and 6 translated than out current translators.

at least with Ludo we weren't looking at never with a slim possibility of a couple years.
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>>121575879
At ludo we were looking at never.

He was involved with the master plan as well.
Aten let it slip
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>>121575925
Sure, Ludo was actually making negative fucking progress but there was still hope that one day it would be done.
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>>121575879
>still more progress towards getting 5d and 6 translated than out current translators.

Rance VI was supposed to be released in December 2012. Fuck all then happend for about two years until Arunaru took over.

So Arunaru has still about two more years of no VI to waste until the two are even in the same ballpark
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>>121575879
He left of his own accord. If he still lying about progress like he always was, he'd probably almost assuredly still be with 2.0. Besides, Aru hardly plays nice with anyone and Maria and Ludo's relationship always seemed to be one of little support. Back when Roven was still a thing, those two would constantly rip on Maria for trying to make III work.

I'm pretty sure you're just polishing a turd here.
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Do you think Kanami caught that dragonfly?
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>>121576731
Maybe if the dragonfly understood pity and let itself be captured.
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https://mega.nz/#!OQcwyb7Q!kd8q2DLTEk2lzjDu3GHtR6mT8Gm6xpXXCUhDvUtRwfg

>there are people in this thread who haven't read Kanami's scene in the Rance Quest manga
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>>121577943
Pic related
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>>121576731
http://strawpoll.me/5942805
Do people want a Kanami sex ticket or a Kanami bully ticket?
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>>121578283
You don't need a Kanami bully ticket to bully her but you might need a sex ticket to fuck her since she's one of the fastest humans alive.
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>>121578710
She's not that fast, and honestly even if she was the fastest she'd probably just trip and fall because she sucks at life
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>>121578710
only when she needs to go to the toilet after holding it in
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>>121579238
Name three humans faster than Kanami. She sucks at everything but her speed is the only thing she's proud of. Well, and giving blowjobs.
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This is the drawfag this thread needs
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>>121579646
1. Rance in Willis
2. My dick in Kanami
3. Those helman soldiers who caught her in her bad end
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>>121579646
Suzume
Helmen Ninja whose name i can't remember
Gekkou
Inukai
Every character who has ever captured her
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>>121579656
Nearly at TADA's level.
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>>121583739
>rape Lia
>fuck kamilla
>kamilla picks strong players
>haruka fucks demons
>maris general
>maris scores options vastly better
>females pregnant
>cocks impregnating
>kay-chan sex
>believe kanami
>kayblis breeding
>kaybnyan creampies
>regular creampies
>glorious helman
>malice expect rape

This is the best one
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>>121584034
>Maris is everywhere.
Average /haniho/ thread.
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>>121568504
Cordoba sounds like a great keeper, now that I think about it
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>>121568667
>Do I have to tell you guys when I'm not around to bump so nobody assumes I'm going to do it?
No need, I'm always around and always on /haniho/ as long as we're not on Australian hours.
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>>121577943
Speaking about that, did they post more chapters online?
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>>121586750
not that I am aware but I haven't checked
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Still playing Pastel Chime

Rina has grown on me
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>>121589287
Same. It took me a while to like the heroines, but I'm fine with them all now.
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>Baless
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>>121586750
Want me to scan it?
I'm pretty sure it's already up somewhere though
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>>121589562
I'm pretty sure no-one at Alicesoft actually knows anything about the English Language before 03 because as far as I know every written English name changes later on.
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>>121589979
Please scan it
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>>121589979
Don't think so. The only links I could find are some shitty phone quality chapter 1-4 ones
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>>121589562
God bless Baless
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>>121591579
One vote is going to be hard to choose 13 people.
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>>121591756
We probably don't even have 13 people
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>>121591579
Kenshin because plebs will instantly recognize her. Even those who didn't played SR.
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>>121576731
>Kanami has an older sister.
I wonder if she shares her potential for failure or if she's actually competent at whatever she is.
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>>121567837
>>121568504
Well 9 out of 11. That's fine.

Now to sort out a roster.

These ten will definitely make it


1. Rance
2. Tosh
3. Kamilla
4. MALICE
5. Kay-chan
6. Rick
7. Reset
8. Kanami
9. Shizuka
10. Myedusae

Vote in these two strawpolls. Multi votes allowed. Vote for anyone you are happy with. If you have another suggestion state in thread.

Rance Characters
http://strawpoll.me/5944515/

Other Alicesoft Characters
http://strawpoll.me/5944710
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>>121594259
>Kanami is in the team
I thought we wanted to win.
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>>121594178
Orion says that she maybe already has shown up. Can we think of anyone that could be Kanami's sister?
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>>121597551
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>>121597551
An older than Kanami character that's JAPANese and is either super competent or an absolute failure like her sister and is from an average family?

Moko?
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>>121597551
This girl obviously.
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>>121598769
She even has a cool scarf too
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>>121594259
Anasel's rape baby is going to be the greatest midfielder of the /vg/ league
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>>121598769
>wearing dark colors for a ninja
>has edgy shoulder guards
>kick ass scarf
>A SCAR
>stance is give no fucks

Kanami's onee-sama confirmed for complete badass.
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>>121599645
Didn't she raped pathetically by Rance in VI
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>>121602871
That's the true proof of their connection
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>>121589979

Where are the new chapters?
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>Shade releases the Last Edge
Okay, that was pretty good for a final boss battle song.
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>>121602871
Nobody can beat the dick, anon.
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>>121602871
She enjoyed the penis too. She said it was the biggest penis she's ever had and no Helman guy could compare. And yeah, Rance did remember her in Rance IX.
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>>121598769
>>121605390
Which chapter did Rance see that ninja again?
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>>121605925
dunno but here's some pic
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>>121605925
Near the end, If I remember correctly.
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>>121612391
I wonder why Akashi placed so high. I guess he is a nice guy.
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>>121613789
1 word:
moustache
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>>121615316
Bullshit. None of the takeda generals made it.
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>>121613789
there aren't many guys in sr right?
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>>121615625
13+
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>>121615625
I think every major faction except Miku Instutite and Useugi has guys so no not really. Actually no just Miku because Useugi has that uncle.

Inukai
4 Takeda
Cubeguy
Hara
AkaShit
4 Shimazu brothers
Gon and Mine's brother
Oda's lolicon
Genri and headmonk

Probably some others but yeah pretty sizable amount.
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>>121577943
This is pretty cute
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>>121616174
Forgetting:
Asakura Yoshikage
Hakkin Dassan (still male)
Mouri Motonari
Houjou Souun
Xavier
Kentarou
Dokuganryuu Masamune
All 5 Tokugawa raccoons
Iwashimoto (the fake Hanny King)
Ryouma
A few lesser guys like the advisors to Kazemaru, the 5 ninjas, Mitsuhide, Toshiie and Niwa.

I don't think I missed anymore, except Gekkou if you think that counts.
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>>121620137
Of course Gekkou counts he's the most central Oda unit.
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>Get Kanami's happy ending in KR
She's pregnant with Rance's kid
I don't know how to feel about this ending. Is Code in any of the other games?
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>>121621468
As far as I know he doesn't.

Actually, I beat Kichikuou Rance 3 times and I've never even seen Code appear. What do you need to do for that?
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>>121621468
Nope. Code was literally the one and only character from KR Zeth who didn't get to appear in VI (or ever again).
>>121621975
Send Kanami to do something in Zeth. I actually beat the game once bullying her the entire run and didn't see Code either.
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The pastebin link for the Rance IX 2.00 interface patch is dead. Where else can I get it?
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>>121624934
https://mega.nz/#!csZ1mBwT!lqeyC1z-SaK3u1eIxYbaxjPfyMfGhxB9tx9UTJyVlrg
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>>121625203
thanks
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>>121621975
>>121623340
To get Kanami's happy end, you pretty much have to do just what the wiki states, so

1. Have Kanami do a Ninja maneuver(not scout before a defensive battle) in Zeth
2. Wait for the beginning of turn scene
3. Have bullied her a few times (probably just three?)
4. Have her do another maneuver in Zeth.
5. If you bullied her enough, next turn you get her happy ending
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>>121628297
>1. Have Kanami do a Ninja maneuver(not scout before a defensive battle) in Zeth
That's what I never did since I only use ninjas for defensive scouting.
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Kanami, saving the thread! N-nin nin!
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>Timestop
>Reset and Shizuka about to get raped by headless minotaur
>Rance cant move

What do?
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>>121632087
>be osoi na otoko
>be Fighter/Mage
>cast counter Time Stop
>throw Death Spell at minotaur
>cast Improved Haste at yourself
>throw Breach at mage
>chop him
Done.
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>>121632087
From what series is that picture? I'm curious.
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>>121632884
Maou no Hajimekata
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What are the benefits of allying with JAPAN in Kichikuou Rance?
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>>121621468
She's not pregnant
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>>121636096
None
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>>121628297
>implying Kanami isn't super fucking happy with Rance now
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>>121636631
I like the backgrounds of IX. They capture really well how much of a shithole full of nothing Helman is.
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>>121636631

"Month X Day X
Today I went on a date with Rance(heart), even though we only went to enjoy a walk around the lake, it made me very happy.I climbed on his arm, was I too bold, I wonder?
Month X Day X
Rance told me to go his room tonight, the reason is of course... kya! I can't write anymore
Rance was unexpectedly gentler than usual, I wonder if this is how newlyweds feels, I couldn't feel more happy right now, jk(heart)"

Or her blowjob scenes?
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>>121632087
That doesn't look like a Minotaur at all
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>>121636096
Julia, and I guess Leila's hilariously dark bad end.
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>>121637240
That diary makes me laugh every time.
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I wonder why did they chose to port Escalayer to android. I don't think many people fap looking at their phones when they can just the PC.
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>>121648639
Having decent porn on the go sounds useful for traveling
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Why isn't Evenicle being translated?
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>>121649010
From a fan translator perspective, from MG's perspective or Malicesoft's perspective?
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>>121649010
Isn't some assholes from Fuwanovel interested in MT'ing it? Better than nothing I guess.
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>>121650038
>Better than nothing
Not really
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>>121650038
Nope

>>121649010
Because 1. Nobody competent wants to do it in the current situation and 2. Only Arunaru actually even indicated any interest in the first place
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>>121650148
If you can't read moon and have zero interest in learning it might sound appealing.
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>>121650889
You might as well just use machine translation yourself then and accept that you have the play the game slower than normal due to mentally restructuring sentences
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>>121651072
I'm pretty sure anyone who is okay with MT is probably too lazy for that.
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>>121650889
Cut out the middleman and do it yourself.

Less will be lost
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>>121651274
That's contradictory as fuck though and includes a very long wait time
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>>121651328
I'm just saying son. I can read moon. To me it doesn't really matter if Evenicle's MT'd, regular translated or whatever. Thought there was a MT ongoing but as >>121650426 pointed out there isn't.

>>121651463
I can still see people doing it.
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>>121598769
What a qt
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>>121651969
>I can still see people doing it.
Obviously, probably due to ignorance
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>>121636204
She talks about how she should be on her period but is instead sick.
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>>121656725
I never got that end.

That is pretty funny
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>>121656725
>Kanami gets pregnant in both of her happy ends
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>>121656725
How Kanami-ish
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>>121657104
her happy end is carrying Rance's child
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>>121657352
And? She got pregnant in IX ending and had Rance's kid as well
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>>121657509
Exactly. For Kanami happiness is giving birth to Rance's child
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>>121657712
Ah, I just misread the intention of the statement
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>>121657712
In KR the point of her happy end is that she gets to live a normal life as a woman with code though. it's just double Kekhold since she's pregnant with Rance's kid.
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>>121658403
We know that, it's just a bit funny. That said, KR translation has been out for over a year and apparently people are only realizing that now, I wonder how many of us got her good ending.
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>>121659007
Why would you give Rance's girls away?
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Is it possible to intercept Kay's army from invading Hornet faction?
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>>121659326
Nope
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>>121659326
Embrace it

MALICE stops you otherwise

>>121658403
Her happiness is living a normal life with a man who loves her and being pregnant with Rance's kid
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>>121659876
Does that mean Kanami has to be constantly impregnated by Rance in order to stay happy?
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>>121659460
>tfw I feel both sad and turned on by Hawzel getting raeped by her own monster army to keep them fighting.
Am I turning into an irredeemable pervert?
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>>121659979
Well she is fated to be with him. I can understand why people wouldn't get her happy end. Even the game kinda plays it as a bad end with the music. Though you could say the same about Satella's end.
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>>121660968
Satella's end goes even farther with the whole everyone else gets a bad end thing, but I don't think people aiming for that ending would care anyway.
I sure didn't.
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>>121660835
It's going to happen in X

>>121659979
Yes. At least until they're old enough to have constant grandkids

>>121660968
>>121661225
Satella's end was great though and people got it for the Satella end. There needs to be an extended Demon King Rance end in X
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>>121661825

>Demon king rance route in X soul nomad evil route style

Fund it, please someone fund it.
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>>121661825
Yes, X should have a demon king end.
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>>121668834
Don't forget to bump this time
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>>121670195
I need more imaged to bump with
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>>121670195
I wasn't even around for the last thread.
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Suzume > Suzume > Suzume
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Haruka 83.9%
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>>121578283
Remember to vote

http://strawpoll.me/5942805
Do people want a Kanami sex ticket or a Kanami bully ticket?

Vote in these two strawpolls. Multi votes allowed. Vote for anyone you are happy with. If you have another suggestion state in thread.

Rance Characters
http://strawpoll.me/5944515/

Other Alicesoft Characters
http://strawpoll.me/5944710
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>>121688131
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>>121688209
What type of mascot character?
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>>121688276
Cute one.
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>>121686445
We've actually got 13 characters with 4 or more votes.
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>>121686445
>Ex still has no votes
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>>121692767
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>>121692872
These are just awkward.
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>>121577943
Is there more of it? I don't know how I haven't seen it yet.
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>>121695492
It's a manga adaptation of the whole game
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>>121696153
Can the whole be found somewhere? Because I've searched for Rance doujins and manga and haven't seen it anywhere.
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>>121697089
i don't think so
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>>121697089
Heres the shitty 1-4 ones until that anon can scan them properly http://exhentai.org/g/655204/e54796fb34/
http://exhentai.org/g/655214/019032f871/
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>>121700993
Sachiko is cute as fuck in the manga
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>>121700993
I want to fuck Atago
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>>121700993
Thanks.
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Pastel is a shit mother
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>>121710583
Is Reset Rance's kid?
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>>121710934
Yes, Magic confirmed it with parental testing magic. As far as I know, Pastel has only ever taken two loads and they were back to back when Rance mated with her in her impregnation ceremony while Pastel was under the influence of numbing drugs or magic..
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>>121708581
I still think that's a weird kanji to represent bowl.
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>>121712702
Thats ok because kanami can't read or write
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>>121714423
I also can't read Japanese. I guess I have more in common with Kanami than I expected.
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>>121712702
The point is that it's supposed to be 遁 instead of 丼 anyway.
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>>121717654
What does that kanji mean?
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>>121717753
In the context used here it's to set free or release.
火遁 could be translated as fire release. It never was supposed to be fire bowl, but Kanami mistakenly writes is as 火丼
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>>121718127
How did she make that mistake?
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>>121719342
She didn't know the correct Kanji?
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>>121719342
Because Kanami
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>>121719523
I mean, didn't she read it in a japanese scroll that Lia gave her? If it's written I don't see how she could make the mistake.
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>>121719742
Did she? I have no idea
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>>121719846
She did
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>>121719742
Was probably written only in kana, after all she got the wrong kanji because it has the same reading.
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>>121564892
Is there a way to fuck Alice?
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>>121719342
Because being clumsy ninja is cute
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>>121668834
Crook really is one of the best heroines in Ranceverse. She's like a cuter Rei Ayanami.
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>>121725179
Only Arisu
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>>121725403
Who?

I want to fuck the Alice in wonderland parody.
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>>121725351
She's a Kino
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>>121725351
Colcoo is love, Colcoo is life
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>>121725531
Clearly you need to lurk more.
Arisu (also known as fake Alice) is a character in Rance 03.

Also, no lewding the mascots!
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>>121725798
>Clearly you need to lurk more.
I'm not a regular here.

I want to rape the mascot!
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>>121726398
>I want to rape the mascot!
Arisu is better anyway
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>>121726398
Only shit-tier companies let you fuck the mascots
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>>121726997
A doujinshi would be fine too http://exhentai.org/g/144721/b96b56a202/
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>>121725351
Not really. Rei is cuter. Crook is okay though.
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>>121726816
I didn't play the game but I'm curious.
Which one is Alice, which one is Dark Alice and which one is Real Body?
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>>121725551
Are there many Kino clones?
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>>121730597
Not that I know of
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>>121728753
Geez, you're really not a regular, are you? I assume you've played Sengoku Rance. Have you ever gone to Alice's Mansion in that game?
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>>121728753
2 of them are already there on the image. Dark alice is just a chuuni bitch version of the right one
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>>121710583
How did she get on the roof?
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>>121737545
Lv 1 luck
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>>121737748
What's lucky about getting on the roof?
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>>121738432
Making it up there without falling
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>>121738432
What's not lucky about a toddler getting onto a roof in one shape?
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>>121736712
>And people say Leazas is a good place to live.
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>>121739194
No-one said good, but compared to the likes of Helman or Zeth, it's a paradise.
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>>121739194
>living as far away from demons possible
>a bad thing
If it was leazas that was invaded dozens of times instead of zeth it would've been removed from the continent a while ago
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>>121739432
Zeth is a pretty sweet deal if you're a warlock.

You're right about Helman though. Only reason to go there is if you're a fan of starving to death.
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>>121739719
>Zeth is a pretty sweet deal if you're a warlock
Not anymore, the country is still in a pretty shit state
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>>121739705
>as far away from the demons as possible

That's Japan, which could be a nice deal if you ended up somewhere like the institute I guess.
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>>121740019
>Living near the epicentre of a earthquake
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>>121740019
JAPAN has its own demons in the form of Ogres/Oni and some youkai though
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>>121740257
Sexy Youkai, too
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>>121740257
Pretty sure neither of those are anything like actual demons. Youkai seem mostly peaceful now, and Ogres seem mostly located in Houjou terrorities.

>>121740223
There is a solution for said EQ though, and it's resolved as is most issues with Japan if we're assuming current canon like >>121739860 is.
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When discussing the state of countries you need to decide what part of the timeline we are discussing, Before Rance or at the current time.
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>>121741398
if you consider current then even helman is an good spot to live in
But we all know that kalar forest is objectively the best
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>>121741561
Didn't they use to rape murder their captives? Or was it just rape?
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>>121741561
Not really, Helman is still a shit tier country. Shier on the road to recovery with the government being cleaned of corruption though. Zeth overall is still in a worse state than they were before but are on the road to a much better future.

JAPAN has gone up due to unification and alliance with the Youkai and almost all of the hellholes are sealed. Free cities is getting more corrupt due to Copa and the largest construction company collapsed so Free cities has gone down.

Leazas is stronger than ever with every country bar Copa in debt to them.

Old:
Leazas >= Free cities > JAPAN > Zeth > Helman

Current:
Leazas > Free Cities = JAPAN > Zeth = Helman

Lia and Malice are doing a great job
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>>121742131
>Shier
Their* Why the hell did spellcheck not pick that up?
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>>121742131
I'd probably include an asterisk for old Zeth for mages because they really had it better than virtually anyone short of royalty. Old Japan is probably too violent so I'd rank it about the same as Helman or Zeth, not above it.
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>>121742586
>Zeth mages
Fair point, I was more thinking of the overall population's state as the mages are the top 20% IIRC. The other 80% suffer a state that was arguably worse than Helman citizens. Doesn't balance out well in Zeth's favor

>Old JAPAN
I most certainly would not rank it above Helman but now that I think about it putting it around Zeth would make sense
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>>121743132
Yeah, I'm just saying I'd probably include an asterisk for it. It's obviously a shithole if you're not a mage.
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>>121743378
That's like saying that in the 70s and 80s, South Africa was a first world country
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>>121743843
Mages as a ruling class aren't as minor as something like africa's ruling class. It's a fair group of the population, just not a majority.
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>>121744443
You know that white South Africans used to be near 30% of the population right?

And even know are still over 10%?

It's actually not that different a demographic
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>>121739719
One every five citizens are mages, so there's a 20% of a chance of living in conditions comparable to slavery.
And even then, the risk of bordering Kayblis Faction is always high even with the Maginot Line.
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>>121744596
80% chance of living in conditions comparable to slavery
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>>121744587
I thought it was 10, my bad. I think a better example might be Palestine or something where their neighbors are constantly trying to kill them though.

>>121744596
Yeah I know the number, I just thought the demographic was around 10 percent rather what it use to be as other anon pointed out.
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>>121744596
Don't forget that the whole selection progress is corrupt as fuck, if your born into a mage family your basically guaranteed to succeed and maintain that lifestyle. If you're born into a non-mage family it's stupidly hard to get enough knowledge just to be able to learn magic

The process is rigged as fuck
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>>121744596
more like
>5% chance to become a magic user
>15% chance of being slave/soldier
>30% chance of getting raped to death by demons
>100% chance of your life being shit
Not a single person in zeth is happy
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>>121745018
Shit, right, that's what I meant.
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>>121745286
Radon and company seemed pretty happy before Rance, save maybe concerns about their batshit crazy king.
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>>121742353
It's 'They're', anon.
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>>121745286
Before Kamilla they didn't get a single Demon attack for over 70 years though.
And there aren't that many Demons that rape people to death.
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