Last time on /ss13g/
>"unban me", 2hotdogs, local /s13g/ lad cries out
>nobody makes the new thread and i have to do it again
>i need more space pictures
>waifu arguments?
>lore and setting discussion, better than shitposting?
>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc
>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help
>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/
>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777
>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336
>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13
>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.pomf.se/logs/
>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"
>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/
>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/
>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o
OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
1st for everything is shitposting, why contain it
>>121324923
may i recommend the booru for some spess pictures?
just not the terrible special snowflake ones.
You know what
You seem like an alright guy, from the actual interactions I've had with you.
I spoke to Pomf, you should be unbanned now.
>>121325354
>Not chaika
baka senpai
do manifested ghosts still count as less than human for the purpose of invoking runes?
or is that only when summoning nar-sie?
>>121325619
I think only when summoning nar-sie, but good luck getting ghosts that aren't fucking stupid.
New drinks added when?
>spending my birthday home alone late at night, drunk and eating icecream, coding for a game I haven't even actually played in months
>spent my last birthday home alone late at night, drunk and eating icecream, playing xcom and not even enjoying it
>>121324994
>>i need more spess pictures
Have no fear mate, I know just the place!http://www.deviantart.com/tag/ss13
>>121325742
yeah too bad about that, manifest ghost is a good cultists strongest weapon
>>121325763
sarca why do you keep a collection of all the admins real life pictures?
that's pretty disturbing bro
>>121325763
He looks like a stand up guy
>>121325438
Get with the fucking times, grandpa.
what is your favorite type of traitor?
not to play as, just to play in a round with.
specifically, what are a traitors options besides stealthbombing the station the entire round, or going on a one-man rampage and getting killed in the first 10 minutes?
>>121326389
going on a one-man rampage and not being shit at it
>>121326389
>help guys i just got traitor for the first time quick gimme ideas
>>121326389
The type that abuses the admins rather than the players.
Sending porn in the fax machine
making ridiculous and crazy commands and requests in a emagged communications console
murder boning the entire server to the point where the admins have to change the rules to stop them
>>121325763
Post every admin pic you have
>>121326512
not even in round
>>121326497
yeah that's what I try most of the timebut I'm shit
>Brig under cult control
>Send fax to Centcomm begging for help, telling them brig is overrun, sec IDs stolen, head IDs including HOP stolen
>Have a photo of Nevill getting sacrificed in the security lobby in plain view
>No replies
>Cultists lowering alert levels and sending station alerts about meeting up in the bar to summon Narsie
>Centcomm oblivious
I can't really blame the admins for not being on at all times. I'm just really unlucky as IAA.
>>121327329
They were on.
They just don't give a fuck about IAAs. Nobody does.
>>121327329
LOl sorry to hear.
,e and the cap said EARLY as fuck in the game there was a cult. And we gave people holy water and shit.
At least the round had non shitty antags who ATUALLY killed people and y aknow. MADE THE GAME NOT A BORING FUCKING SNORE FEST LIKE SO MANY FAGGOTS DO CAUSE THEY ARE SCARED TO DIE IN A GOD DAMN VIDEO GAME!!
>two miles away from the station
>meme squad keeps jumping to me anyway
I wish they didn't have so much time at the end of the round to kill everything that's left alive and gloat about it. It'd be nice if people actually had a reasonable chance to actually escape too.Thanks Deity.
>cult destroy borgs despite the fact they're humans and we can't do shit against them anyway
>roboticist keeps my MMI in his backpack to make sure I'm safe
>faggot cultists not robust enough to convert him
>that last stretch as we wait for the shuttle to leave
>that faggot harvester that still fails to bring him to narsie because of how incompetent he is
>mfw still alive at the end despite my roboticist bro being converted and probably dead
MMI STRONK
CULTIST AIN'T SHIT
>>121327651
>>mfw still alive at the end despite my roboticist bro being converted and probably dead
I was implanted.
>>121327841
200 DAMAGE AND STILL ALIVE
BRING IT CULTIST FAGS
this mosiesec guy is a real character!
>hear there's a cult
>ask someone where I can join
>they say go to the brig and ask
>go there and the chaplain meets me
>say I want to join the cult
>chaplain feeds me holy water and implants me
>tells me I'm in the cult
>go the the chapel and see an atmo tech talking to an artificer
>can't understand the language
>complain about it
>explain that the chaplain implanted me for the cult
>atmo tech tells me I need to meet with Nevill in the bar
>they're calling it therapy
>tell him I need therapy
>Nevill tells me I need to sleep
>go to sleep
>dragged abandoned office
>curious how they're going to deal with the implant
>they give it one shot then beat me to death
I don't know what I expected.
>Attempting on three different occasions to set up the R-UST engine on the test serb
>Always run out of time and have to go do normie shit
>Finally have plenty of time
>Set up the computers
>Set up my burning chamber
>Finally wrench and weld the Tokamak down
>Use multitool
>It won't let me add the machine to buffer
>Or change the ID
Kill me.
>>121327329
>Send fax
stopped reading there
wasting your time son
never ever ever have I had a fax responded to, spent cumulative hours writing and sending them over the years.
I only play IAA now as an assistant role without the grey jumpsuit when I can't be fucked playing a real role.
>>121328092
Oh man, I didn't know you had an implant... and I'm pretty sure Nevill didn't too. 30 seconds after they were coming to the base so we had to leave you there.
>>121328248
do it as a mommi?
go take the captain's spare?
>>121328248
was the room powered by and apc with a knot under the core?
you also have to make sure you put the knot down first
>>121328410
I forgot that APC breakers default to OFF
>>121328268
The main problem with most faxes is most are asking for us to send them something. A representative, an ERT, etc.
We usually don't have enough players who can do that. A lot of the times we can't even send ourselves as a representative because we're so wrapped up in other things.
This is why prayers are answered way more because it's a lot easier to just splatter some blood around for the chaplain and spawn him some gimmicky thing that doesn't do anything but makes him happy.
>>121328537
take them out then, they're a waste of time for everyone involved.
even asking for someone to be promoted or demoted goes ignored.
I really wish I could opt in to be a second wave cultist or something. Seems like I only ever get converted at the end, and I'm not robust enough at it to be one of the first three.
>>121327329
The previous round I responded (late) to a fax because I was busy handling an ahelp, immediately sent an inspector then an ERT.
I think it's more likely that when I logged out, both admins were still afk in the lobby.
Also nevill was a cultist. And slain by the HoP for being a cultist so I have some questions there.
>>121328410
>>121328320
Ok, next question. I have three injectors and three vents. I assume I link the vents as output and the injectors as input. I linked them both up to the TEG loop, but the computer still lists no output port found.
Question for the autism techs.
You have a plasma TANK (not canister) that was preignited and has 1 mol of plasma and a bunch of CO2, all at 3000C.
How would you separate the CO2 out of the tank and just have the 1 mol of hot plasma in the tank?
>>121332021
i'd slam it in an empty canister and run it through a plasma filter, then put the filtrate into another new canister, but that takes pipelaying and stuff
though come to think of it, do portable air scrubbers scrub out co2? if not, you could just pop it in there on max power and suck the plasma out of the scrubber later
>>121328092
That's what you get for trying to join a cult.
>>121332517
They do
>>121332606
then shit, looks like youve got some pipes to lay
>>121332021
Portapump/scrubber, connector, filter with empty canister and another portapump.
>>121327651
Protip: most antags will harm humans, which borgs will take as an excuse to disregard law2 ("cults are harmful to humans") and brig them (stunning = no harm).
>>121333253
>stunning = no harm
lolwut
is this a thing? surely not
>could be with some dude's medbayfu
>there are circumstances against it
>she mostly plays only when I'm on
>>121333553
you what?
>>121333605
Nothing, really. Some guy was waifuposting in the previous thread, and I know who's he waifuposting about.
I'm just breakfast shitposting, don't mind me.
>>121333758
Is that you again shiggy?
Who are you eyeing now?
>>121333553
>she
step back for a moment and look at the bigger picture here.
do you now understand how autistic you've become?
>>121334463
Inside every man is a cute space station worker.
>find an artist that does decent ss13 fanart
>it's filled with furries, gays or both.
Thanks bay!
>>121325763
Seems like a cool guy and decent bro to me
Would D&D with/10
I'm laid up in bed feeling like shit so I'm going to go over what I did to send an ERT.
1. Get fax. Can't reply yet because I'm looking into someone who may be being a bitch and rurus come first. Players already have a game to play and I have a lot of things that are more important than enhancing the game for them.
2. Get back to the fax, which by now is a long time ago but thankfully the player is still nearby a fax machine. Take into account everything I've observed, from checking the number of antags and who is an antag, to the station damage/power/status of departments, figuring out if his fax is on the level or just "I'm bored send bus", and doing a bunch of mental checking that no one talks about or wants to hear. From there, I have to formulate a reply that I think is the best I can offer and will be the best for the round. There's no button to press, I have to think shit through and decide.
3. Reply. Send an inspector. Wait, first we have to spawn a human and a set of centcom clothes (remember one 'm' or else nothing but a single chest armor will come up). I could just right click dress up if I had the flags but i don't and the player on the other end doesn't care what flags I have. Pick a name, get everything sorted like hair and IDs with a matching name and so on. Oh and quickly, because this guys already waited 10 minutes for a fax reply and making him wait another 10 minutes for me to leave centcomm isn't acceptable.
4. Go to the station using the Ferry. Everything has to be IC. Roleplaying is optional for Assistant Murdercock MacToolbox. It isn't for an admin making a visit as a centcomm official. Stick to a natural script (go to bridge, talk to heads) and politely ignore a changeling deathstinging the HoS right in front of me and the guy that faxed me. I know he stung him. The other two players should have killed him on the spot. But I can't, and I can't even say anything. I'm an admin, not a player. It's not my beef.
>>121335074
4. (Continued). Take the HoS who is now fucked to medbay, give a parting word to the person that faxed me, and press the ERT button before my character is even back to the Ferry so we can get the ball rolling. Plus telling people how to become an ERT repeatedly so we get the most possible players involved.
5. Go back to Centcomm, again IC via the Ferry no shortcuts. ERT is already joined up. Hassle the dead to join up again and get another player to participate. Wait 60 seconds for them to get comfy, come back in, brief them as briefly as possible since we're now 20 minutes past the point where something was fucked up enough for a person to fax for ERT. Send them off after shooing them out of the ready room like a mother bird flinging its babies out of the nest before they can fly.
6. Make any number of announcements during all this so the crew has a fair shake of whats happening and antags aren't surprise raped by 6 guys with big nuclear guns.
>>121327329
And here's what you did. You wrote anywhere from 1 to 5 sentences and sent it to centcomm.
For fuck sales pomf
HALF A MAGAZINE TO THE DOME SHOULD REALLY KILL
WHY DOES TG GET ALL THE COOL STUFF!?!?!?!?
https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/11803
>>121335517
ARs are shit and so are trees.
>>121335729
>It's a game mode
>not an item
baka desu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSen7DRQWU
>>121335729
oh boy yet another meh and out of place gamemode from TG.
literally who cares.
we need to work on fixing our codebase before we think about adding big things like a new game mode.
codebase is in SHAMBLES right now.
>>121335729
That's two months of work and it still isn't ready to even go live and go through the first batch of live server testing to iron out all the kinks.
Help out PJB working on clockcult. He is making cool stuff for you.
>>121335729
it's fine just check out these PRs
just as good
>>121335880
nah it's not like we have more issues than before the freeze right
>>121335074
>>121335384
what do you do to send a death squad then? or what would justify sending one? I want to be a death squad commando and I need to figure out how badly shit must be fucked for that to happen.
> Clown
> Just walking around making water coolers and shit
> Some guy gives me a gift wrapped emag
> Never see him again
> Have fun with it, superjuke the juke box, send pizza calls to the syndicate, open every fucking door on station
> Suddenly I start coughing while I'm printing a dozen cult tomes in the library
> It's a honk virus, first affected is the mime, creating an unholy abomination
> Then the virus turns out to be a beneficial virus that burns the abominations it creates
> Make it out while the HoS is screaming at me blaming me for everything
> Even Rei is complaining about a massive amount of ahelps
> No one even bought an emag
What the fuck just happened this round ?
Was very tempted to break into the AI chamber and upload a benign law the AI couldn't state under ANY circumstances, but decided to restrain myself.
>>121334463
I do, but there's no stopping once you start.
>>121335996
I had no idea. But I never knew how horrible toxin sublimation could be until now. At least it burned the mime-clown traitorling who decided to suck me dry on the escape pod too.
>>121335384
>And here's what you did
Actually let me help you out here Probe
Here's what I did
>1. Visual confirmation of a threat: expended shells and runes in the brig
>2. Radio confirmation of security non-responsiveness
>3. Camera evidence of on-going sacrifice, stolen HOP PDA, stolen captain gear
>4. Briefed newly-arrived Detective on ongoing threat
>5. Compiled report and submitted to centcomm
>6. Ordered to help retake the brig as an IAA with no weapons by Detecive
>7. Get lasered to death in a noble brawl that does at least kill off that one cultist
Here's what you did
>Weren't playing that shift
>>121335990
I spawn however many humans, spawn a complete set of deathsquad gear that I've memorized, and take control of each then dress myself. Then I ask players in deadchat and put them in.
I've only done it once and basically the answer is no until I have the flag that lets me skip the dressing up part and just pick a premade selection of items.
For me to send a deathsquad (assuming I'm up to the task of wading through the bullshit for you) the station would need to be
Completely or at least practically in control of antagonists*.
Someone has contacted Centcomm and informed them of this.
An Official (me) has come to the station and witnessed this and reported back to (me) or was killed.
An ERT is either not viable or has already been sent and killed.
*Celt is a pretty special dude when he plays captain and can get a deathsquad called on his ass for rebellion without killing people or removing them from the round as a non antag. His finesse and ability to create fun, interesting rounds really helped him become an admin with huge support. It's not impossible for deafsquid to be called because of non antags but it is rare. And all of this is just how I personally handle it and it varies between all 20 admins.
The main point I want people to read here is when you pray for anything complicated or send a fax or message it takes a whole lot less effort than what it will take an admin to respond in kind with.
And at least one person wants the admins to get involved with some hot bus action every single round. Day in and day out.
>>121336427
>Implying you're the IAA
Nigga you are clearly marked as the 35th unique IP to post in this thread, meaning this is your FIRST post in the thread, so you can't be that same guy.
>>121336641
I'm on my laptop m8
That was 2 hours ago
>>121336106
It was just a way for me to die. My second objective was to die.
>>121335074
>>121335384
Probe: the only admin who cares
as someone who is on the other side of the faxes, hearing 1-3 sentences makes me cringe, I always make sure to make them a reasonable length, and provide a moderate amount of detail on the situation at hand.
I also generally fuck around with the formatting somewhat, and make the text look like it has a letterhead and is in some kind of bureaucratic format, ensuring the language is highly formalized and correct.
I would not blame you for completely ignoring a fax that runs along the lines of
Dear centcom, please send ERT as soon as possible.
the bridge is taken over my cultists.
send help.
fuck that fax, no effort no response.
I generally try and make it something more like....
Station: Space station 13
Location sent: IAA office
Destination: Nanotransen Central Command
Specfics: NAB Smythside Central Headquarters
Requesting: emergency assistance
Reason: cultists
To who it may concern
This is Allissa Hall Internal affairs agent for space station 13, we are currently being overrun by a cult which has taken or killed a large portion of the crew including [any Heads of staff]
the cult has barricaded themselves in the bridge and is threatening the very survival of the station itself. weapons known to be used by the terrorists include [weapons] and also believe they are attempting to summon their god deity Nar-SI
Our staff are either incapacitated or incapable of re-taking the bridge, and we are formally asking for assistance.
we are requesting an emergency response team or similar remedies to help combat this situation, and also any information that may be kept on this particular cult
Thankyou in advance for any assistance you may provide.
Signed [signature]
Allissa Hall, IAA
Space station 13
>play bay to get away from /vg/
>play /vg/ to get away from bay
>never one hundred percent happy anywhere
Kill me.
>>121336641
He could be posting from his tablet or whatever who cares. My posts weren't directed at one specific instance, rather every instance every day when people ask why don't we get bus at will because we mastered slipping our ID in a fax machine.
>>121336427
I left before you sent the fax. I still observed over half the round and responded to 6 different players ahelps, all while managing to be a very boring borer inside a xenobiologists head because I forgot what character slot I had loaded and became the first borer of the round while making a cup of tea.
What you did is part of the round. It's the game that everyone has spent so many years to make for you. It sounds like you had a pretty good round. If I had been there I probably would have busted my balls to respond in character and play with you.
But ultimately, the game plays itself without admin intervention unless something is broken or someones done something hugely dickish. Antags succeeding doesn't guarantee bus.
>>121337012
>the only admin who cares
Give him a few months.
>>121336596
>I spawn however many humans, spawn a complete set of deathsquad gear that I've memorized, and take control of each then dress myself.
reeeeeeeaaaallllyyy
that sounds tedious as fuck bro.
is there no way to spawn an ERT member with default clothing, similar to the starting gear each role has?
No wonder nobody ever sends centcom support.
>>121338016
There is, but Probe lacks +FUN which allows that, to my knowledge.
t. ERPmin
>>121334670
But I'm a man playing as a guy in a game about spessmen doing spess things.
This isn't a "Look in the mirror, it's too late, there is a skeleton inside you" thing, is it? Looking in the mirror, and seeing a spessgirl instead of me?
That sounds awful. No way in hell is that the truth.
>>121337012
http://wiki.baystation12.net/Guide_to_Paperwork#Sample_Forms
Bay has a terrific wiki page on paperwork and I know one player who follows it. It almost always gets an immediate response because he put work into his report, even if it's just that. A report.
If you put work into something, admins are more likely to put in the work I've described back for you. If you pray "Gib antag", admins are more likely to honor your wishes and gib you.
There's something I really need to emphasize though. What admins do isn't immediately obvious unless you sift through the admin log and cut out all the warnings about firelocks being opened.
Every admin I've ever encountered, from Thingulous to nuklear to pomf, has at some point bussed the round and interacted with players. They all care.
Before I became an admin one of my personal complaints about the server was things sometimes aren't transparent. You'll ahelp about a guy and won't find out if anything's done until the banpage updates. Shit happens, not really a ton of explanation on what.
I wanted to improve that and decided to post in the thread with a name, accepting the amount of flak I would rightfully draw for it.
That has resulted in three things.
If I'm right and being a decent guy then people like me more and say probe for headmin.
If I'm wrong, people sure as fuck remember it because I've put my name on it and made everyone look dumb because they picked me to be part of the staff.
And finally pertaining to your post, it looks like I do things that others don't when all that's happening is I'm saying the things others don't.
Rei gets a ton of shit in the thread because he's not very vocal about what he does and often only brings bants in the thread when sarca is posting. That does not mean he doesn't put a shitton of work into bus and administrative work.
>>121338016
>>121338083
It's significantly easier to just spawn a human, right click it, click dress up and choose deafsquid
>>121338091
Well, you know how it is, buddy.
It's only autistic if you like them out of character.
>>121338153
That's precisely what requires +FUN, though.
>>121337171
Sounds likewe need more admins
>>121338153
>http://wiki.baystation12.net/Guide_to_Paperwork#Sample_Forms
HOLY SHIT I KNEW I DIDN'T DREAM IT
I found this page once when going over the wiki, thought to myself "hmm better come back and re-read this one later, and then NEVER found it again
assumed I was going crazy on account of the obscene amount of mescalin i've been having recently and hallucinated/dreamed it.
it was on a completely different wiki.
I might be sane still maybe
>>121338234
>>121338350http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_PaperworkIt's copied to our wiki, too.
>>121338606fuck....damn it....I AM going crazyI swear I went throu...fuck it
>>121338185
Yeah I ran out of characters and couldn't take that sentence to the natural conclusion.
>>121338206
We have 21-24 active admins depending on if you want to count codermins and count eliminator as active. It's more like simple faxes aren't simple to reply to unless you just leave it at a reply.
>>121338234
I still remember wiggling your fat ayy fingers, taking time not just to carefully prepare and file the paperwork but to emote doing it.
Holy shit.
>>121338350
I wish there was more use for paperwork. Maybe sending copies of filled and stamped forms to centcomm can give score and money? Give heads some pre-filled paperwork forms?
There was this cool series of posts with job-related objectives. Could anyone find it for me? I mean, I hope it's archived, so it's not completely gone.
>>121339784
It's gone. archive.moe shut down and the current /vg/ archive doesn't have anything old from .moe I think.
The insite archives only go as far as 3 days back as well
Pomf are you doing your Christmas thing again this year? I've been away from the server for a while, but I want to either donate some dosh or buy one the random giveaway games.
>nobody blew up the station in celebration of guy fawkes day
I'm gunna fix that, wish me luck with the ban appeal
>>121340317
Good luck!
>>121340317
Ahelp for 1812 overture and you'll be good
>>121340020
>Log in
>Same old map
What happened to all the NEW MAP WHEN?
>>121340792
We have four maps and Box doesn't get played about 4 times a day.
People don't want to move off Box for various reasons. Go figure.
There is talk within the admin channels of rewriting the rules, or at the very least, re wording them.
I think its only fair that you, the players, provide feedback regarding what you want to see and what you don't want to see.
Remember, we're still going to be a low RP server, so keep that in mind.
>>121340885
Because taxi is pain because of the taxi's vulnerabilities, and deficiency is defficiency
>>121341094
And metaclub?
That's the difficulty of improving the maps in a nutshell though. I appreciate you have complaints but they aren't concrete enough to do anything about. Complaints that can be helped are specific and detailed. Most people say they like Box better, so nothing really changes.
>>121341093
What is the difference between low and light RP :^)
>>121341231
yeah yeah you know what I mean, fuck.
>>121341093
>>121341285
eRP should be acceptable, but only with Angelite and only if he is on cam with you, so you know exactly what you're doing.
>>121341197
Metaclub and Box are like Cool ranch and nacho cheese. Both good, but people like one over the other.
Also remember that most people don't know jack squat about mapping, so you're lucky if any complaint has any sort of description beyond "I don't like it"
My main issue with taxi is that anyone can be an ass and disable the taxis in many different ways without much effort. As well as some oddities like the distance between cloning and cryo being a tad long.
But that's just mostly an issue with the station's gimmick.
>>121341093
My question to you is: what do you have in mind?
>>121341093
-vox are valid
-Tyrones are valid
-If someone breaks into your department, their sentence is massively reduced (if not eliminated entirely) if you didn't have a desk bell
-something, anything at all, to help curb gaytide
-Specific, detailed explanation on the difference between potential harm and probable harm. Ideally a whole wiki page on this distinction. Jesus christ.
>>121341450
Kill self
>>121341504
Cloning+Cryo feng shui is exactly the kind of exacting feedback we need. That's something I can change.
If you say well the taxi design isn't good then fuck, what do we do? Add more taxis? Where? How much of the map now requires redesign?
I don't need precise shit. Two days ago someone ahelped complaining about the bar door on deff. The windoor was flush with the inside of the bar (north side of tile) instead of the outer bar counter, giving the bartenders area one extra usable tile.
I didn't need him to tell me the windoor is dir 1 and should be dir 2. I can dig that shit up myself. I just need him to tell me the door aint right.
>>121341504
but which came first?
Ranch, or cool ranch?
>>121341890
Please don't kill me
>>121341880
well, maybe make a 3rd taxi that docks somewhere other than where the first two dock in the station, that way you can't just lock down the place by welding two doors/airlocks/breaking the screen/putting lube in the taxis? I don't know. I just know that it's extremely easy to bottleneck station flow by just welding the airlocks shut
>what do we do? Add more taxis? Where? How much of the map now requires redesign?
And this is why I don't really complain too much. Because the answer to those questions is not something that I can answer easily most of the time.
As for ways to fix some stuff around taxi, the door to the break room has some weird access that paramedics can't open for some reason. Cryo and the morgue are a bit out of the way from cloning. I think those three should be kept fairly close togheter.
As for how to fix it, beats me.
>>121341880
A few little details on Box that I've come across:
RnD starts with a beaker of sulphuric acid, Robotics starts with an empty beaker. Even though RnD only needs sulph like 90% of the way through the tree, and only to print three boards that get destroyed immediately. Meanwhile Robotics actually uses the boards they print. Also, maybe more metal/glass/plasteel in both Robotics and RnD?
Bartender needs more table space behind the bar that customers can't reach besides a single tile that comes cluttered full of garbage nobody ever uses as bartender, like wrapping paper and the tile painter. And a superfluous headset identical to the one the bartender spawns with. Also, consider replacing the booze vending machine with a booze DISPENSER? It would make SO much more sense.
Also is there a way to make the recycler and conveyor belts in recycling activated by default?
>>121338083
>ERPmin
I AM THE ERPMIN REEEEEEEEEE GO HOME RUSSIA PIGGU
>>121342635
>Also is there a way to make the recycler and conveyor belts in recycling activated by default?
Yeah, but I don't think that's an issue. The furnace eats up a surprising amount of power so no reason to default it on, especially when you can really get your 2 metal sheets recycled in about ten seconds of waiting anyway.
>>121342635
robo acid is balance.
bartender is something that does need improved
conveyor is off because why not
>>121342635
>he doesn't use the tile painter
You are playing bartender wrong tbqh
>>121341093
if the round is boring and youve completed your job youre allowed to have FUN
- only things that are minor annoying, like working as cargo and never approving of someones orders
- mixing stuff into the edibles that drug you, make you feel dizzy etc.
- as botany, spread healing/ good kudzu in maint, plant plants everywhere that do no harm
- as chemist, add space drugs to pills, add space drugs to cryo mix, drug everyone with syringes
- fuck with a person that you picked forever, minor annoying things like throwing bolas
ive had countless rounds that were really boring as chemist, ending in grinding up things from the venidng machines and making steroids
>>121341093
Repeatedly signing up for a job and then ignoring the job completely should result in a jobban, for ALL jobs. I know we've jobbanned Engineers for not setting up power, but we should also jobban chemists for not filling the fridge and cargo techs for not processing orders and such.
>>121341880
cargo is a fucked up hell, there needs to be some transportation system like in boxstation, i dont want to drag 20 chests through 4 air vents
what the hell
>>121343798
Do you seriously not know how to use the mail system? Taxi's mail system is super fucking cool.
>>121343835
Not that guy, but what's cool about Taxi's mail system?
oh and I forgot one critical thing on this whole map business.
you have to post it on github or no one fucking remembers.
>>121343913
There's a conveyor belt system with mass drivers and conveyor belts, it shoots packages through space. You can also use these to sneak between stations by firing yourself (since it moves you automatically, if you put on internals you can survive no problem, though you'll take some space burn damage)
>>121343913
It uses mass drivers to shoot the mail from station to station.
>>121343992
>>121344009
man, that's cool
>>121343835
whos talking about the mail system?
im talking about all the crates that get ordered by randoms that you have to pull through 4 air locks to get into the station
>>121344091
Then that's a valid complaint, I agree. Conveyors or riot.
>>121344125
theres even enough room for 2 belts, without much to be done mapping wise
itll be slightly more cramped up
>>121341880
I think one of the most common complaints with Taxi is that rooms are just too small. This really stands out with the kitchen, botany, xenobiology, IAA office, and genetics. There's also a lack of maintenance. I think the only reasonable way to solve these problems is with a fourth station.
>Move Kitchen, Botany, Bar, and Theater to a new service station. This station also gets one solar panel and a mini-atmos, and a local mail center, just like the others. You would also need to add new mail sorters stuff in space.
For the gap on Cargo/Engineering:
>Move over the IAA office, make it bigger instead of literally 4 tiles
>Move over the library and expand it for some breathing room
>Move over the chapel
Even accounting for larger room sizes, there is actually even a ton of new space left over on the cargo station. Add maint or make other departments larger/more comfy.
>Move over RD, R&D, server room
>Expand Xenobio so that it isn't hellish to work inside and gets a full 6 rooms
>Move Toxins across the hall to where the chapel was, now you can even add a mass driver/testing range, and make it a little roomier
Science (except robotics, still with the robits) is finally united
>Fill the space left by R&D/RD with mechanics so they sit directly next to the telecoms they're responsible for
None of this solves the whole "you can cripple the station by fucking with the Taxis themselves", but it does make the rooms liveable. And yes, I am well aware that this is too much to ask and won't happen.
>>121343920
Whats the protocol on bugfixing the map? I see mentions of there being tools to sanitize the files and such and i'm just all 'i ain't clickin that shit nigga' a lot of them are small fixes that could really dent the freeze list.
>Flying my gold spacepod around in space, searching for my lost bomb
>See a fellow space-pod brother dead on his pod
>Get in his pod to move it so I can bring his body back to the station
>NOT ENOUGH CHARGE LEFT
>Exiting the pod traps me
>No pickaxe, no cell, only panic
>Realize that the same thing happened to the dead guy and he took his suit off for the sweet release of death
>With no hope for rescue, decide to do the same
>Hanako shows up at the clownroid as soon as I die
SPACE IS CRUEL
>>121344834
It's pretty funny how often newbies do this to themselves
Never box yourself in
Always bring an extra cell
>>121344834
>he didn't bring a spare
>he didn't go fetch some cells from the derelict
It's directly north.
>>121344753
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/blob/Bleeding-Edge/maptools/install.txt
>>121344908
>>121344873
I didn't intend on finding a space pod went I spaced myself, so I didn't bring cells.
>>121342836
Deadpoo please, your ERP as well as your taste is subpar.I mean, c'mon.
>>121344834
IT WAS A TRAP
>>121344934
>install java
potent hams detected!
>>121344996
>your ERP is subpar
who are you
>Tfw had to leave last night after being intellicarded
I truly apologise to everyone, even the antags who has subverted me for that low quality Aiing
t. Little Bro
>low pop kitchen duty
>try to get parts for dispenser, get yelled at by random scientist for dismantling photocopier
>try to extend a nice gesture to a department via spaghetti dinner, but they're all dealing with an antag
>do pic related
>start getting chased by guy with flamer
>get a few good whacks with rolling pin
>get taser
>run into him again
>swap hand in reflex from taser to rolling pin
>get tased and fed a huge dose of plasma
>go blind, stumbling away from fire with the captain while I can see shit
>get into medbay alt exit
>cap almost lets plasma in
>no staff, but can see shit
>get stunned, welder tank tossed on me and blown
I could have stopped him, I had a clean shot
but my redshirt status fucks me over again.
Why have I never seen a trial like this in SS13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCMHmDnfD6I
I feel like I played pretty strong that round.
>A good load of ore and stuff mined.
>Got to the clown roid.
>Rescued some people.
>Saved some more people.
>Rescued the Cap after he got built into a wall.
>Trying to help the botanist thinking he was trapped in botany
>Flamer man appears and duels me.
>Merc him
>Fuck up the recovery and die.
It was a good run too. I should have just limped to medbay and killed one of my hivelords. The thought of doing that and dying before the kill and leaving the hivelord scared me though so I just tried to fix myself up with the trauma kit.
>>121345145
youre lucky you didn got banned because you didnt do your job and had FUN
>>121346109
>Chef cooks spaghetti
>Didn't go his job
????
>>121345138
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>121346143
> building windoor / reinforced glass walls as chef
> re arranging reinforced windows to have room for a jukebox thats possibly stolen from bar
> arranging a nice table full of food in arrivals
> leaving the kitchen
remember, no FUN
>>121346331
Chef/Bartender are encouraged to mod their serving areas though, that's why the bartender has 50 metal + tile painter and some tools at shift start
>>121346395
I always wondered what the hell that metal was for
>>121346331
go to bed 2hotmemes
>>121346468
i dont want to meme,i just want to shake up some badmins that maybe see this
what the chef did was really good and we need people with ideas. this should be encouraged as long as it doesnt turn into a "bad experience which cant turn good anymore" for other players
>>121347859
admin here
thats lowpop in a nutshell
not sure what point youre trying to make
>>121347859
What world do you live in where people who build things get in trouble?
>Survive the plasmic end of days.
>Wait in an airlock for the next shift chewing on anti-tox.
>see someone mention teeth and knocking out teeth were added to hippie
>they copied our idea but rewrote the code
>mfw our code is better
>>121347859
We have a disconnect. What we yell at people for is things like, engineers never setting up the power. Or security killing people for slipping them. Or the chef, instead of making food, putting lexorin inside of donk pockets and leaving them out.
We're not here to be captain buzzkill. We just make sure no ones being a huge faggot and ruining everyone elses shit.
>>121348068
>We're not here to be captain buzzkill.
But you in particular are, Probe.
>>121348282
notrly
It's more like there are people that don't want the rules to be rules and want me to make exceptions for them but I won't. It does not make me happy.
>>121348351
Nope, you take people acting in grey areas where there are no rules saying yes or no to certain actions and make sure to stop it and then talk about on the thread about distorting it like they were griefing and you put a stop to it like a good admin.
>>121348490
Hit me with some examples of how I can do better. Times I've done wrong in a gray area.
>>121348549
The illegal tech board deal recently.
Which your acting on opening a ticked to have it be logged was fine, but not going on the thread and lying about how both MoMMIs were planning on banbaiting and grief.
>sorttype is legacy because mindfuck
>sorttag is the replacement
>sorttags are null
Do i even want to know what the fuck is going on here?
>>121348672
This is harder for me to accept because I believe I was right.
I only said one mommi griffed. I don't think I was wrong and bumblingidiot who has some experience playing mommi agreed, as did n3x15 who is the chief contributor to mommis.
Now I'm arguing in a new issue that they should get more things at roundstart because they've missed out over the last 6 months.
>>121348768
>I only said one mommi griffed
>>121245619
>Two players, upon realizing they could do something, immediately used it to bait everyone into trying to kill them.
>>121348908
I apologize for accusingwhat I now assume is youof baiting players without proof. I did not see it and was focused on the one stunning people.
I should have left it singular and not painted you with the same brush without knowing it.
>>121349039
Wow thank you, Probe. I, random anon, am happy to have been cleared of those charges and accept your apology.
Still feels like you petitioned a law that took away a gun from me because I could get myself hurt, though.
>>121349139
Neither player received notes at the time since the round had ended when the ahelp came in and it was just a quick log dive to see if what someone said was true.
What I said in the thread afterwards was wrong. One player acted out of turn. Applying it to both was incorrect and I am sorry. I said it without thinking and in an earlier post in this thread, I mentioned the pitfall of using a name means any time I am wrong I am remembered for being wrong.
I am sorry for saying something about you that I had no proof of and I will remember not to talk shit without backing it up again.
look how much he cares
we don't deserve him
>>121350039
But we want him.
Even better if he finds the time to update his speedrun for mechanics given the not-really-well-documented new balance of research levels.
Protip: when setting bomb timers, 1 second is not an acceptable time.
>>121343680
There's a place for you
It's called NoX
>Find wiz in med-atmos maint after he asks what the syringe he got hit was
>He's collapse locked cause mutagen
>Stox and strip him
>In medbay storage and just got inaprov in him before heading to get arith, rye, then cryo him back up when
>WELP whispers with their final breath, "C-c-can-nt-t-t w-wak-ke up-p-p-p..."
>Can you smel-lel-lel-lel
>Scan him
>Damage Specifics: 105 - 103 - 0 - 0
>He would have lived if he didn't puss out
>>121350839
What was the point, I was having fun. Didn't care about greentext.
>>121350839
I think theres lots of fun to be had capturing an antag and removing their organs, on an imrpov table, with improve surgical tools, as the clown.
Bonus points if you yourself are a monkey at the time, can monkeys even do surgery?
>>121346465
metal can be used in some drinks also
>>121352652
I didn't even know you could grind metal.
>>121351414
They can, on certain meds.
>>121341093
Personally, I would like elaboration on non-standard silicon lawsets, with examples of what the different laws mean.
I see a lot of people struggling with things like "What does it mean to serve the public trust" and "How do you define good and evil", and many fail to understand why they can't just murder criminals as Robocop, thinking it's okay because that's what Robocop does in the movies. Same is true for Paladin, many players seem to not understand that "punish those who yadda yadda" does not mean "murder the fuck out of criminals".
>>121354227
murder isn't that bad when you can clone or revive the person
>>121355005
Anal admins think otherwise,
>>121354227
The wiki has a huge ass guide about lawsets. Try looking at it sometime.
>>121355005
That may be, but for the purposes of silicons laws however, murder is murder.
To kill without authorization and in a non-life threatening scenario is murder, which is not just a violation of space law but also a violation of Robops third law.
Killing people as punishment for their actions is rarely a non-evil act as Paladin. The same limitations space law gives to Robocop also applies to Paladin. Space law is a type of authority, and to kill without proper authorization is disrespectful of that authority.
>>121341093
I've already provided an extensive guideline of what I think the rules should be. I've yet to cover grief, IC issues, escalation, and to explain the misconceptions. I suppose I'll get on writing that and finishing it up.
I shouldn't have agreed to write it. Way too much effort for way to little return. I thought Celt was talking about Admin Guidelines, not player rules.
>>121354227
It's a good thing I'm writing this and am able to put forth my arguments in a document so it can just be referred to. Because I won't be around to argue with idiots like this guy all the time.
Elaboration on law sets is inevitably going to lead to two conclusions.
>An interpretation that agrees with what you think
>An interpretation that disagrees with what you think.
What you're proposing is that the Admins decide to bar one perfectly reasonable interpretation and restrict behavior to a cookie cutter pattern. Of course, that interpretation should be the one YOU agree with and the banned interpretation should be the one YOU disagree with
You are the exact kind of person I hate. A self serving brainless twat, who thinks that their uneducated opinion is worth something.
When your laws are based on subjective terms, there is an enormous room for interpretation.
>>121355641
Except of course, you know, that the first law is to Serve the public trust which is an incredibly vague statement that can reasonably be interpreted in any number of ways that conflict with what you say.
Also ignoring that "the law" is also an incredibly vague statement and could refer to Space Law, natural law, Draconian law, law from 6th Century Byzantium, or any such number of laws and not YOUR specific law that restricts behavior the way you want it to be restricted.
>>121356035
Oh yes, and of course let's just throw the 2nd law in there, Protect the innocent. It can be said that actively seeking out and killing criminals before they are able to act again is a sufficient way of protecting the innocent.
You're a moron. Plain and simple. You think your specific brand of idiocy is fit to be law of the land? How insulting. A low class imbecile such as yourself is not fit to impose restrictions on me or anyone else.
>>121348068
just checked and it isn't that bad
plus they've got dental surgery and dentures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LamgAfVj980&bpctr=1446735205
>Play for the first time in like a year
>Tons of songs have been added to the jukebox
>Which have been thrown haphazardly into a bunch of astoundingly disorganized playlists with filenames instead of song titles
>And to top that all off, there doesn't seem to be anything in that clusterfuck from MGSV
What have you people done
>>121357117
Hey pal, blob map pictures general is that way.
>>121357250
>>And to top that all off, there doesn't seem to be anything in that clusterfuck from MGSV
Like half the 80s songs were added :o
>>121357317
Well I guess it's just impossible to navigate then
The filenames aren't even in alphabetical order
>>121357431
yeah those lists need jesus
>when you're fixing the boxmap based on the feature freeze issues and two of them are requests not actual bugs and another doesn't seem to be a problem because the SME chamber is fine last I used it, which is every other round.
Did anyone even call dibs on the map priority so I'm gonna get screwed over on this? I hope not, I'm blazing along to the sound of progress, it just werks.
>>121358081
>>121358103
Just check the open PRs. If none of them modify the map then no one has map priority.
There's no calling it if you don't even have a PR up.and there's no "It's a work in progress!" PR either
>>121360417
Mines pretty much done I'm just testing the EVA doors to make sure I didn't fuck it up, i fixed the disposals network completely and even added a few destinations which involved about 2 pipe sorttag edits, swapping one normal pipe out for a sort pipe for telescience and adding 2 destinations to the taggers default list.
Already sent a crate to every possible destination so I'm happy with that, after the test i just run clean, make sure my forks all up to date and it's a normal PR right? I did the merge stuff in the config also, don't know if that matters.
>>121360642
did you take care of the bartenders door on deff and the firelocks on deffs research outpost too oniichan?
> A round of double agents has ended - 3 survivors, 15 ghosts.
Well done lads.
>>121360727
and none of the two bombs were detonated
Greentext the round, what even happened?
>>121360716
I'm doing box only for now, I was trying to shy away from map edits because of the song and dance involved but I can't stand it anymore, the freeze is being fought, I got new features I want to work on and that shits sapping motivation.
I suppose it's working as intended then given I'm bug fixing instead, bravo.
>>121360831
salt
>>121361000
doing gods work.
>>121360831
a whole lot of nothing for 2 hours then antags rush objectives if they havnt suicide succumb
>>121361000
Don't worry, you're not alone. I've had to put my gambling PR on hold until this is all sorted out too.
Anyone have any ideas on getting 30 mol, or more, of plasma in one tank at 400C or higher?
One tank at
1013kpa at 673.15k/400C is 12.676 mol
1013kpa with 30 mol is 284.436/11.25C
>>121361000
Before I fire this off I want to double check something, the maintenance door to EVA should require both maint and EVA access, correct?
>>121363026
It's set to req one: "11;24;5;1" on box. not gonna look up the values
>>121363167
I know what it was, i'm just checking the logic of my actions, since the door leads to both maint and EVA it stands to reason you want both of these. The old accesses are being revoked, if you don't have EVA you can fuck off and greytide your way in instead. If you don't have maint, you aren't leaving through that door.
>>121341093
And here it is, I've finished it entirely. May be some typos but it's done and I refuse to work on it anymore.
>Short rules
For new players, general players, and to get a quick understanding without reading a treatise.
http://pastebin.com/mxy1V8QC
>Formal rules
For the admins, for ban appeals, for reference, for detail.
http://pastebin.com/rzbWcuhW
>>121364030
The policies do not define the extent of the validity of the offending party, can we therefore conclude that anyone who kills ian is officially on the entire stations shitlist?
>>121364030
>that section on silicons
You're killing me.
>>121364030
>bane memes
I fucking love you, 2sarcalogos
>>121364030
>ERP is not banned but non consensual ERP is.
Dorms confirmed for increased foot traffic.u fukkin wot m8 who agreed to this shit?
>>121365205
I'm quite liking it tbqh
>Non-hacked Mommi stole an active posi
Oh wow that's some turbo bane there
>>121365205
>who agreed to this shit?
Nobody did, it's just this guy writing what he thinks is good
>>121365315
Then why am i wasting precious seconds reading this c-grade smut when i could be reading a-grade library smut?
>non-hacked mommi valved plasma into the airmix pen
Oh god it just gets fucking worse.
>>121324923
unban 2hotdogs pls senpai
>>121364030
I could have sworn that I saw this exact same pastebin in an earlier thread. Why bother asking for feedback when you never intend to use it?
>>121365303
fuck off shiggy
this is not an erp server and so long as i have a say, never will be
>>121365306
>>121365414
I think it was the hacked one though. At least, I killed the hacked one and they said they did that plasma shit. And since they were no longer in an MoMMI they didn't appear on the endscreen.
>>121365470I would never actually ERP on /vg/, lad, I just needed an excuse to post the cat meme.
>>121365528
Synx nicked an active posi that was shouting to drop it. KEEPER lawset.
>>121365414
I've done similar things even in my more experienced days. What's important that they learned from it and they'll be deathly afraid of doing it again.Trust me on that.
>>121365561
you dont need a reason to meme
>>121365470
I say ERP should be allowed- if and only if everything is broadcasted to all radio channels, and then transcribed directly into the thread from the logs at the round's conclusion. Or possibly before its conclusion at that matter.
>>121365561
кy шиги
>>121365631
Bceгдa пpoигpывaю c этoй пикчи!
>Unid updated:
>Aliens no longer take double burn damage.
Shiieeet
>>121365561
No need to lie shig. We all know.
>>121365919
meant for >>121365730
Diaspora stronk
>>121365969
Tbqh there's no good waifusthat are into lewd shit
>>121324923
What did 2hotdogs do to get banned anyway?
clean_map.bat is finding new tiles on maps I didn't even touch, I've fucked up haven't I.
>>121366205
Originally, his ban was for being converted into a cultist, then immediately exposing the cult over the radio, suiciding, and logging out.
>>121366147
Im into lewd shit.
Im just not a good waifu
>>121366382
Yup.Recent developments are leading me to leaving the waifu scene altogether, but as long as I'm an admin, all waifufaggotry shall have just as much right to live as the other side of the spectrum.
>>121366213
Nah, just discard the changes to these before committing.
>>121366812
>leaving the waifu scene
BUT I NEVER GOT YOU TO NOTICE ME!
>>121364030
>/* If this is not implemented, the entire set of rules is worthless. Admins will ignore what is against the rules and again just ban people for "being shitters" which is code speak for I don't like you but don't have a solid reason to ban you */
This coming from the guy who banned everyone he didn't like before he stepped down as an admin. Ironic.
>>121366812
do share commieman
>>121366147
>there's no good waifusthat are into lewd shit
No good waifus are fucking sluts.
>>121367849
>not wanting a slutfu for casual no strings attached lewd times
Enjoy having a hard life in a relationship cage.
>>121367331
Too bad!
>>121367634
Well, you know.
There's me getting married, and there's something else about a kind of fucked up waifu situation.
>>121367849
Precisely. Being into lewd shit isn't necessarily sluttyif you're the first person they do it with, but I wholeheartedly agree.
>>121368034
>not treating lewd times as something rather intimateI think I crossed the autism barrier and I'm eager to see the world beyond.
>>121365919
гapoльд бecт вaйфy
>>121368097
>if you're the first person they do it with
>tfw made my female character not a virgin specifically because I dislike this attitude
>still get waifu'd
>>121368368
>Made my character a slut because I value sexual experience and freedom
>still get waifu'd by smegma heads trying to tie her down
>>121365919
>вceгдa пpoигpывaю
Я вac пpoшy: нe нaдo этих лoмaнных пepeвoдoв зapyбeжных мeмчикoв.
>>121368710
Your character has been a bad influence on mine,Angelite.
>>121335443
>>121368948
Mister Pomf! Local news channel here, what is your take on the recent influx of cyrilic letters in your thread? Any prognosis you could give us?
