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Bannerlord never edition.

(Looted) thread: >>120735605

READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.

NEW BLOG AND BANNERLORD VIDEOS:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbaWgLjN6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkrdMAyCmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w66nHR7GTF4

PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/9TMsKr2a
M&B Wiki with pretty much all the info you need: http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_and_Blade_Wiki

Noob guide: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV

M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/

>How to implement upstab, 1h upstab, crouching, pike bracing
>USE THIS ONE, ONE IN PASTEBIN IS OUTDATED
http://pastebin.com/b8KTnB9f

>/mbg/ Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg

Module Flavor(s) of the Sometimes and Recommendations:
>Swedish Mayonnaise
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=211788.0
>Warwolf
https://mega.co.nz/#!lw0nkThD!Fi1am6YqNGOuWE93ZDzoNiqxqDukFkpRuJzIeuyy9-c
>Warphilia
https://mega.co.nz/#!tEAmwZYS!ZL8IQAvQaM3SE7aubY6TuvVtFhLBZBJI7X3icE4fsT4
>Sayazn - 2.0 out now! NOW WITH ADDED DISAPPOINTMENT
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,325987.0.html

Module system decompiler and PoP/ACoK/1257 AD/CIA source files - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ucsmvc35ypgz5r8/AAAgGaMWKrD15iH60Mbr8Yyua?dl=0
Warband Co-op Mod - http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,322770.0.html
Anon's modded Diplomacy - http://www.mediafire.com/download/7ex3306kg24jjd9/Diplomacy+Modded.7z
Anon's modded Tocan's Calradia - http://www.mediafire.com/download/k597985766ynf8b/Way+of+the+Sword.7z
Anon's Modded 1257 - http://www.mediafire.com/download/v5kz3me75lmgacp/1257AD_modded.7z
Tweakbro's Warsword - https://mega.nz/#!pA5ETB7D!v3FOXElTq-hDToBG6QVtAzeLgO-saWafMlQYP8XFJVE
Flails, upstab, crouching and more for Warsword and Tweakbro's Warsword -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9k8bkyfmgfuocwc/Warsword+Flails%2C+Upstab%2C+Crouching+and+more.7z
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>>121250020
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The other one has relevant OP
>>121250020
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>Get married in VC
>Wife keeps literally keking me with random lords
>No option to confront her or any of the lords about it

What the fug
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>>121250191
So, this one's newer?
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>>121250215
By one minute.
Announcement made 1 sec appart on the old thread.
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>>121250210
Vikings are known keks, wife sharing was common among them.
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>>121250210
hahahaha
>play warsword
>courting bitches left and right
>only doing it so I can stop them getting married and keking everyone

>>121250291
early thread gets the morning posters
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>>121250321
Eh, fine to me
I'll repost the relevant infos.
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>>121250304

It keeps tanking my relationship with her by 20 points every time she does it, and 40 points with whichever lord's hotdog she's funneling. She's fucked half of Ireland already, I'm ready to get the option to just have her head cut off already.
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>>121250463
I thought I was on /hgg/ NTR Central for a moment.
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>>121250546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCgZqMP2Bc
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>>121250689
I think that guys full of shit
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>>121250708
Please do a better translation or fuck right off.
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>>121250620

It really is that ridiculous. I left my fort to go to a city not even a day away and I get a message popping up saying she fucked some guy while I was gone, it's like once a week with this shit, I could probably set my clock to it. Oh, weekly expense reports are in, my wife probably fucked someone.

She's on a remote island for god's sake
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>>121251070
>Another person
Him ?
>>121046825
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>>121251070
>Fuck me what's wrong with you bitch boy, mommy shit in your cereal this morning?
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>>121251165
No, this guy
>>121250423
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>>121251657
The translations >>121250689 and >>121046825 are of a interview of someone from the magazine who played the game (probably the one who wrote the article)
>>121250423 is a translation of the magazine and the guy said he has 4 pages left to translate.
Its not contradictory
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>>121251070
autism
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Is it harder to do a rebellion if I'm already a vassal of the guy I want to overthrow?
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>>121255525
Uuh, how else do you intend to rebel ?
You can't rebel without being a vassal.
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What kind of banner will you create with Bannerlord's banner editor f_am ?
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Guys I fucked and lost 3 companions to bandits and enemy lords(I got captured ad then run alone).
What happened to them?
Can I find them somewhere or they just sit in the dungeon somewhere o they re lost?
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>>121256014
Something with a dragon or a griffon.
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>>121256132
ask a traveler in a tavern they will tell you for a fee.
where they went most likely in some town's tavern but they MAY be in some ones dungeon
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>>121256318
Thanks. I wondered if I should start a new game.
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>>121250423
>>121250546
Update
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>>121258341
>end of 2016

kill me now
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>>121250463

Is she a redhead by any chance?
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>>121258605

I don't know she's always wearing this ridiculous hood. Her father's super light blonde though
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>>121258763
Kill the bitch.
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>>121259612

It's not an option. Even shooting her in the face with a crossbow just goes "thwok" and nothing happens. I'm being keked by this game and there's nothing at all I can do about it. Thanks VC.
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>>121259865
>It's not an option.
Bravo Brytenwalda team.
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>>121260652

I can't even go after the men she's fucking. I tracked one of them down and it's just the standard options for interacting with another lord

I'm just left wondering why this is even here, like some faggot dev with an NTR fetish decided to force his shit on everyone who plays the game
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>>121259865
keked for life lmao
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>>121261049
Prep the boar fuccboi
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>>121261049
>I'm just left wondering why this is even here, like some faggot dev with an NTR fetish decided to force his shit on everyone who plays the game
I think the devs decided to force a lot of their shit on everyone.
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>>121261238

I actually got that "dilemma" like a hour ago. I'm familiar with the story but I really thought the game was just going to trick me and actually cut the baby in half as a big "fuck you", so I reasoned that the child would live a better life with the rich woman which would make the poor woman happy anyway in the event it was actually hers, make the child happy by not growing up to be a starving peasant, and even help the poor woman out by not having another mouth to feed when she can obviously barely feed herself.

The town ended up pissed off at me for showing favoritism to the rich.

Why does this game keep kicking you in the fucking balls no matter what you do
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>>121261238
t-that's some lewd options
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>>121261739
I don't get why there isn't an option to just throw the baby to the poor woman and let the rich woman go.
If every culture penalized lying there would'nt be any point to lawyers no ?
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>>121258341
>>121250423
>Build your own castle
>Train your own units
I wonder if the castle must be linked to a specific fief to prevent spamming.

And I hope "train your own units" means train your own CUSTOM units.

>>121258479
I was expecting at least 2017, so this is good news for me. Yeah right, its going to be delayed again.
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>>121261687
>Why does this game keep kicking you in the fucking balls no matter what you do
autistic devs. I understand that they decided to treat morale likea big thing in gameplay and that's ok with me. It actually makes sense instead of just force feeding your soldiers with a balanced diet.
But jesus christ why do I need to get random morale drops on the overworld map with no reason.
I litterally get the message "your party lost x morale"
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>>121261238
>give the poor woman to your men

Does that mean what I think it does? Why can't I give the rich woman to my men?
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>>121258341
>end of 2016
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>>121261982

>Doing some trading runs to generate cash
>Only crew is sailors so I can outrun raiders and vikings
>Made this same trip a hundred times
>Your troops feel uneasy about crossing the sea
>Sailing so close to shore the boat is actually clipping with the terrain
>Uneasy about crossing the sea
>BOATING UP A FUCKING RIVER
>UNEASY ABOUT CROSSING THE SEA
>MUTINY

GOD DAMN
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>>121261939
>I wonder if the castle must be linked to a specific fief to prevent spamming.
nah m8 you have 4 places where you can build anything (some ressources will only be available in some villages)
So yeah you can spam castles. at the cost of a production field
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>>121261238
Eh, that's not some fetish shit. That's right out of the Torah/Bible/Quran.
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>>121262341
>Eh, that's not some fetish shit. That's right out of the Torah/Bible/Quran.
the gang raoe thing not the baby thing genius.
And we already baited this at lenght. thanks.
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>>121262281

give me more!
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>>121262281
jesuschrist

jesuschrist

I wish I was rich enough to fund these turks
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>>121262419
Oh well, the Bible has plenty of gang rape.

I think Lot tried to convince a bunch of homosexuals to stop trying to hit on a couple of male angels and instead gangbang his daughters.

Goddamn, the fucking Bible was written by a bunch of retarded basement dwelling autistic hentai freaks.
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Evening lads, I had no idea this game had a general so I apologise if I sound like a pleb. Is 1257 any good? I'm getting a bit bored of floris.
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>>121262683
The Hebrews were a strange bunch.
>>121262586
More
>>121262428
Really you should watch the videos that are in OP and read the Blog
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>>121263176
1257 is good.

It's very historical though (read BORING). But a boring mod can still be very good.
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>>121263419
All right sound, I'll give it a go. Also am I just shit or do cavalry units get tarpited to easily to be useful?
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jesus fuck does this guy sounds fun.
I remember he was the one complaining about the ability to build castles in villages.
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>>121264814

Naruto autism in full effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xoTBZrzko
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>>121264814
>like Dynasty warriors.
"No".
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>>121264814
He was also crying about village upgrades.

"Hurr durr but den evry villuge will b castle and u cann not recruit soldurs anymor!?!?!"
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>>121266184
>>121264814
>>121265151
i hate anime
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All free men shall be united under the Khan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc43pzGwjPM
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>>121266184
>"Hurr durr but den evry villuge will b castle and u cann not recruit soldurs anymor!?!?!"
Yes he pretty much whined like that
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>>121250015
So what helmets do we know are going to be in Bannerlord? Great Helms? Italo-Norman faceplates? Transitional helms?
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>>121267170
>wang wong wang wong wang wong

It's pretty cool they made a song about Ghenghis' Khan's dick.
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>>121267670
Great helms, faceplates, and generic dark ages stuff.

I guess the Great helms are for the Empire, they seem to have some pretty "far future" anachronistic weapons and armour.
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>>121250689
That is the most turkish video I've seen desu
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>>121267841

>anachronistic
>impying he's an expert on the Calradian history of arms
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>>121267709
There should be more desu that guys dick did so much work that 5% of every male on the world is related to him.
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At this rate, M&B2 might come out sooner than me learning to code and making a 2D version!
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>>121267670
No great helms seen so far though.
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Best place to start?
Tried Swadia last time but their King was a dickhead.
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>>121271076
Swadia IS the best place to start.

Easiest bandits and easy trading (get goods in non-Swadian lands, hop the border and sell it in Swadian cities).
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>>121271076
>>121271262
The easiest bandits in Native are the mountain ones I find
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>>121271076
Nords is easiest if you want your own kingdom later on as nord huscarls are the strongest infantry so you could siege castles without effort.
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>>121262270
Get ale/whores/rest at a tavern and never worry about morale again
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on the one hand, i find playing as a vassal much less stressful and easy. on the other hand, not being independent hurts my pride a little bit, and it wouldn't be THAT bad if not EVERY SINGLE one of the kings were usurpers. wat do?
>inb4 help a claimant
if i have to fight an entire nation, i might aswell form my own kingdom
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>>121271538
>/whores/rest at a tavern
these are expensive goyim..
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>>121271653
Helping claimants is a great way to reduce the power of the factions while keeping the status quo.
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>>121271885
Buff tournament gold with tweakmb then
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How do you think Bannerlord's modding system will work?

Will they keep the modules around, or will they go for something that's a bit more "modular" (geddit? "modular" 'modules'?) like Bethesda does?
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>>121271947
but don't i automatically become their vassal? also, if i help i claimant, i assume that i only have my own troops. even at mid-late game, leadership restrictions and morale means that you will have around 100-120 troops. that's usually not enough to both take a castle and repel subsequent attacks.
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Guys what is the best mod if you look only at features ?
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>>121272478
IIRC you can always quit being a vassal.

The political hit you take from quitting being a vassal is like a drop of water on a red hot iron, so you can just quit being a vassal without giving a fuck.
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>>121272779
really? i always assumed that it would have great consequences like reduing honor, renown and relations and that you shouldnt really do it.
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>>121273287
Since you're putting a king on a throne like 6 times, giving up your vassalship doesn't mean shit.
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>>121273287
The relation loss you get is with the monarch the rest stays the same
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if i play with a female character and marry a noble, do i get full access to his armies and fiefs? what does he get to control?

also, other than being able to host feasts and right to rule, what's the point of marrying as a male? do i get an alliance with the bride's family?
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why is this allowed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktmXIHxoqpQ
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>>121272498
tocan's i guess?
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>>121277325
>doesn't get ended by projectiles
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>>121277325
Did he remove all thrown weapons from the game or some shit?
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>>121277325
>that framerate
christ
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Where is the OP image from
did we get new screenshots
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>>121281078
An old set from a leak
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>>121281498
Post more
I need this
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>>121281672
Here somes
http://imgur.com/a/RxNJB
Will post the ones that aren't init
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>>121281887
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>>121282073
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>>121281887
>get sieged by khergits
>expect a shitload of archers with a siege tower
>instead, they're already on the wall
>with horses
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>>121282650
We never heard of the leaker again btw.
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>>121282947
They're probably drinking out of his skull
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>>121282947
That's all I have.
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>>121283169
Or they sold him to Ramun.

He's probably slaving away on a slave farm in Baleon, waiting for harvesting season.
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>>121277325
>It's over Anakin! I have the high ground!
>WHAT'S THIS THING EH
>Don't try it!
>LESS TALKING, MORE RAIDING
>You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the sith, not join them! Bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness!
>AWAY WITH YOU VILE BEGGAR
>You were my brother Anakin! I loved you!
>OUT FOR A STROLL ARE WE
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>>121283616
kek'd hard
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>>121283616
Oh fuck, saved.
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>>121283616
>no "I might have MEMED a bit too far in some places"

For fucks sake.
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>>121283616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ThECHhmQs
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Well boys, I guess this is it. Squidfuckers are coming for me. At least now I can stop playing this shitty mod tho amirite?
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>>121288005
Thanks. Now whenever I read GoT, or watch GoT, I can't stop seeing the Boltons as Splatoon squiddies.
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>>121288005
You hold the walls! You should be able to kill four men for every one you lose if you fight well and true. I have faith.
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>>121288005
seen bigger desu lad
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>>121289697
The retainers are fucking strong thoug I started my kingdom with those motherfuckers and now I own half of weteros
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>>121291316
What IaF mod is that?
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>>121291991
>IaF
what
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>>121292112
Ice and Fire
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>>121291991
its AD 1257
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>>121270026
that's not true though

>>121267670
fair few of these concept arts i've spotted
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>>121294606
I really hope they add warmasks
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>>121296553
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>Writing up factions for a wintery mod
>cant think of good name for first tier ranged troop other than hunter
pls help
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>>121296749
>>121296553
I'm having flashbacks to Stronghold.
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>>121296749
2 kniggas with the full chain have some bretty cool helmets
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>>121296848
watchman?
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>>121296940
Basically already using that for the early melee troops
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>>121297570
maybe border watch?
also you spelt arbalester wrong
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Bannerlord late 2016?
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>>121297570
Oh right, I also need to think of a better name than Master Swordsmen. maybe some sort of order or something? Lore is these guys prize swordsmanship, all the sword guys are "outside" of the professional army while the rankers and stuff are in it. Having them with some sort of cool name would be good i think

>>121297742
I like that, thanks.
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>>121297836
>Oh right, I also need to think of a better name than Master Swordsmen. maybe some sort of order or something? Lore is these guys prize swordsmanship, all the sword guys are "outside" of the professional army while the rankers and stuff are in it. Having them with some sort of cool name would be good i think
if they're 2h then Landsknecht
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>>121297831
Autumn, 2016.
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>>121297963
Im really trying not to just do a "copy" of existing things
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>>121297742
>spelt
>not spelled
>arbalester
>not arbalestier

regardless of whether or not certain words can have multiple spellings you're still a faggot
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>>121298220
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arbalester
:^)
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>>121298134
i guess it depends on the universe you're doing these in
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>>121298612
Low fantasy, somewhat nordic thing. Kingdom of Bartoly is to the south however and are a bit more French/English. I dont even know if i'd call it fantasy, but its very early in development so idk
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>>121298354
this is some gay shit desu
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>>121299303
i mean you could just use real life knightly orders if you wanted to, like the knights of saint thomas were a pretty famous english knightly order, you had to specifically be an englishman to get in
>>121299338
what the fug
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>>121299682
I think ill go with Heroicis. Its not my favourite, but its less boring than master swordsmen.
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>>121261939
>Wondering about Bannerlord but not reading the blogs that tell you about Bannerlord
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I'm enjoying Floris but it crashes every 30-45 min. I auto save a lot so I haven't lost anything but it's just jarring and hard to play in long sessions. As I understand it, it uses new textures, would using native textures help the crashes?
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>>121269914
Their prediction is END of 2016 and that comes with several disclaimers that it isn't set by any means and they'll only actually release when Armagan is happy. 2017 seems pretty likely. They're apparently not very good at project management.
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>>121272498
Silverstag lad.
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>>121295282
Tell me about Yaroglek.
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is it true that the 6 kings of calradia have significantly different personalities and behaviours? if so, which one is the most based to join?
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>>121305058
Not really.

Dont join Harlaus because they always die
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>>121305058
i actually really like sultan hakim, he's furtive and will often give you missions to get the upper hand on the enemy

its why in every playthrough even if im not playing the sarranids they seem to get huge, the sultan is one of the more driven rulers compared to buttermaster or horsefucker

he also barely hosts feasts which is nice because it stops me from having to worry about constantly running around to circle jerk with other lords
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>>121303432
LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED BLADE
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Is this easy enough to figure out? Bogi is basically archer, and spjot is spear, so i feel like it wouldnt take too long to get used to these and there are enough patterns that people wont always be wondering what something is.
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>page 6
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KOOFER BUMP
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page 10...
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>>121311450
Anybody excited for Full Invasion: Amber?
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how to take screenshots? also, is there any decent 3 kingdoms mod out yet?
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>>121313717
I WANT TO HELP LIU BEI RESTORE THE MIGHTY HAN
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dead general
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>>121314698
no u
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>>121314965
ded
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>tfw finally got a pollaxe and some armor upgrades
got this tabar-shispar too, dunno whether to dump it for something more knightly but it's just so useful
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who here /luck/
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can i fufill my white guilt fantasy of being an apache and raiding caravans all day long in that one old west mod
has it been ported to warband or is there still only gabrilduros shitty version
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>>121321108

original m&b only senpai
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>>121321108
I managed to port it to Warband via the method in the pastebin, but it crashes every time I select a cavalry troop. Also hair clips through hats and shotguns don't work properly.
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>>121250423
>"...It is clear from her body that she trained for fights like this..."
Muscle sliders confirmed
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>>121250210
Can you at least mitigate this by having obscenely high relations with your wife before marriage? Otherwise VC is even worse than I joking portray it as.
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>>121323284

No. It would seem the VC devs really love railroading, as evidenced by the fact that half the kingdom is running a train on my wife.
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>>121263419
How's it boring? 1257ad has the best battles of most mods as the AI knows how to use formations.
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>>121263419
>history is boring
literal shit taste
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>>121323921
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>>121322913

This guy knows what's up
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>>121325509
It is always nice to be reminded there are other gentlemen of such refined tastes on this board.
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How do i change the recruits you get from a village?
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>>121326815

explain
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>>121326870
he wants to know if its possible to change something like a khergit village conquered by swadians to a swadian village i imagine
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>>121327103
>>121326870

Editing Floris troop trees, accidentally changed Swadian peasant instead of I2 Swadian peasant, so now I cant recruit my custom troops. Spent hours making these troop trees, dont want to rewrite them. Id just like to make it so you recruit what is now Bartoly Levies
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>>121327352
shit i was far off

well i'm near clinically retarded so i cant help sorry man
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>>121326815
i think you need source code to do that
and tbqh if you're modding i'd recommend doing diplomacy as a base instead, floris is a clusterfuck
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>>121327695
Its ok, friend.

>>121327773
I was thinking about it but then id have to go through all the crap of adding in all these items and graphic packs myself and what not
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>>121327921
>I was thinking about it but then id have to go through all the crap of adding in all these items and graphic packs myself and what not
doesn't take long, it's just copying and pasting
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this battle was fucking ptsd inducing
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>>121328531
Brodoks pro.
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>>121328531
you better invest in rhodok spearmen, like 80% of any sarranid warband/army are horsemen ranging from super-light to tank and both of those and everything in between will fuck your shit up
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>>121330441
>>121328531
>not using heavy swadian cav to kill the light cav
>ever using rhodork shit
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>>121330716
>YOU MUST LE MIN MAX EVERY TIME
>NO FUN ALLOWED NO THEMATIC ARMIES ALLOWED NO ROLEPLAYING ALLOWED
>SWADIAN KNIGHTS RHODOK CROSSBOWMEN NORD HUSCARLS ONLY YOU'RE TRIGGERING MY AUTISM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fuck off.
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>>121331136
where did i ever say you should use any thing other then swadian heavy cav
get that morning star out of ur ass m8 you look a bit butt blasted
Posted from my Heavy Charger
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>>121331136
this

we've all been playing the game for fucking ever, we know swadian knights are good already, we don't need some dark souls-tier shitter meming up the start of every troop related conversation with that shit, even if it was supposed to be ironic or a joke it wasn't funny
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>>121331136

>not going pure crossbows
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>>121330234
>>121330441
>>121330716
but it isn't native, it's modded tocan's
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Really ready to burn this fucking hag at the stake
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>>121334235
So do husbands cheat on their wives as well? Or do husbands prove once again their superiority to pig disgusting wives?
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>>121335528

I doubt it. From what I've seen they only sleep with other lords, and since there are no fem lords I don't know who they'd fuck. I don't think any of them are homosex
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>>121331136
Know need to sperg out so hard Autismus Maximus.
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>>121335785
I remember seeing those female ham beasts in VC. Why would you ever get married when they are; somehow, even worse than Native Warband wives?
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>>121336787

Her dad is a complete bro
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>>121336787

this desu senpai baka

also, I noticed that this sky has airplanes
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>>121337497
Should have just become the father's fuckboi then m8.
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>>121303067
Silverstag a shit. Fucktards need to hurry up and fix the Rhodok troop tree.
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>>121325061
Because it's focussed on the most aesthetically boring period in history. At least in the early and late middle ages you had a shitton diversity in armours and weapons. 1257AD is just fucking boring shite, everyone uses the same fucking weapons and troops.
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>>121331136
Actually, Swadian Knights are fucking horrible for minmaxing.

They're expensive, and as soon as their horse goes down they're dead.
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>>121339427
Probably actually would be better than being the realm's most notorious kek, married to a cow that somehow manages to be the kingdom bicycle desu.
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>>121340254
>They're expensive

Honestly doesn't mean shit in Native, it's so easy to be obscenely rich.

>as soon as their horse goes down they're dead

They barely ever lose their horses because the horses are better armoured than most of the AI army soldiers and even if they do lose them, they're pretty much Swadian Sergeants.

No but for real though, Swadian Knights aren't that great, it's just that an army of literally any type of elite soldiers will steamroll everything on the map with no effort required because all the AI armies are full of fodder despite it being obscenely easy to upgrade your troops all the way and fund them. It's just easier to steamroll the entire map with heavy cav because you can F1+F3 and have it over in seconds instead of waiting longer for infantry or archers to do the same job. If you were battling against other players that bothered to use tactics and elite troops and more expensive troops meant smaller army, any pure Swadian Knight parties would get humiliatingly crushed.
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>>121325509
Do you take requests?
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>>121343302
If you want to steamroll with elites, might as well just run with an army of only Rhodok Sharpshooters. They're as effective in melee as the elite infantry of every faction except the Nords, and while their armour is shit, that gets alleviated thanks to their board shields.

Downside is the lack of a speed bonus on the map, but I always tag Nord Huscarls, Rhodok Sergeants and Sharpshooters as "mounted" in Morgh's to simulate that they have a horse for travel that they don't use in battle.
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>>121343302
Talking about lord armies, I do hope that the inclusion of heroes in lord armies will level the odds a bit.

I also wonder how many heroes there will be in the game... will lords hire heroes from the same pool we hire from, or will lords have their own heroes to hire from?
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>>121343894
>I also wonder how many heroes there will be in the game...
60.
Said multiple times already. Also confirmed in the recent magazine
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>>121344859
Will they still have conflicts among each other? Like in M&B and Warband?
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>>121345062
Probably, but modders will quickly make it possible to turn off if the option isn't built into Native by default.

>>121343894
In terms of things like pathfinding, surgery and tactics I hope it will too, but mainly their army composition should match what the player can easily maintain. Whether it's made harder for the player to get elites or the lords just roll with more of them, either way it shouldn't be all Vlandian Knights vs filthy peasants with sticks and a few top tiers that get swarmed helplessly.
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>>121349303
Well, I think that when you have a pool of 60 heroes, it'll be a lot easier to get a functional team of heroes together.

The main problem with hero complaints is that you're stuck running either group A or group B, where the only variation is whether you pick subgroup 1 or 2.
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>>121289526
You're welcome anon. What does /mbg/ think of ASoIAF anyway? I can't wait for Winds of Winter personally.

/lit/ likes to bully me because it's run of the mill low-grade fantasy literature but eh "fuck you i liked it"-mentality is still strong

>>121291492
Veteran + normal retainers are crazy strong, yeah, but the AI is bumfuck retarded and upgrade them to Elite Retainers who don't have shields. I chose 150 archers to man the walls and 30 Heavy Knights to hold the breach, so without shields they got torn to shreds while climbing the siege tower. By the time they finally broke through they were down to recruits and shit, so it was smooth sailing for the rest of the knights who spawned in when my archers got butchered.

I thought I was the only one in /mbg/ who didn't hate ACOK. I agree Cozur is a cunt, but his attention to detail is crazy. There are so many neat little references to the book.

>>121291316
At least you could leave, my g. Holy fuck that HAS to be a marshalled force though, r-right?
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can i host feasts as a grill?
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>>121349075
TEN
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>>121340156
>being this histoically illiterate
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>>121353098
I can't wait for Winds of Winter too.

It depresses me greatly that even if the fat man doesn't eat himself to death before aDoS, the ending is guaranteed to be spoiled by GoT which is turning into absolute fucking garbage as it's taken over by more and more D&D OC.
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>>121356106
>implying im talking about the actual historical period

I'm talking about the mod, you giant fucking retarded semen guzzling smegma addicted cumdumpster manslut.
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>>121356262
I can't see how the fat man even CAN end the series without making it feel like complete and utter bullshit. I feel like there is no way for the world not to end because he's set up this scenario where literally no one with any major fighting force is left, and he describes the last long night as an end of the world scenario even when there were armies in tip-top shape. Without some serious fanfiction tier plot armor for every important character, shit is seriously fucked. Either that or he just says fuck it and kills everyone ever, which is looking more and more like the best option to me, completely dissatisfying as it would be.
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>>121353098
I do always keep a few elite in my armies even without a shield they rek real shit in melee battles
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>>121258341
Wake up kniggas.
Some screenshots from the magazine
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>>121357503
Well the dragons are pretty fucking OP. Could be as simple as the white walkers raping half of Westeros before Dany FINALLY FUCKING LEAVES MEREEN and destroys them all.
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>>121357503
Best would be a white walker win with the surviving characters migrating to essos but I'm sure dany will save the day with her dragons and become queen of both continents or some shit or like you said plot armor will be everywhere
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>>121357640
Second and last.
Thanks to Bloc on the forums btw.
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>>121357503
>>121357852
Also they may have had armies in tip top shape at the start of the Long Night, but they were utterly decimated before figuring out what weapons actually work against the white walkers. Up until then it wasn't a war, it was a slaughter. This time they know ahead of time what to use, they just need everybody South of the wall to start taking it seriously.
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>>121357640
>hit google search to see if there's higher reso like I always do
>gives me bunch of Syrian conflict images
kjeh
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>>121358520
Unfortunately the guy doesn't want to realease higher res but instead wants people to buy the magazine.
I know I ain't ordering a magazine from fucking turkey. And there's no chance to find it in stores near me.
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>>121358064
Haven't most of those been forgotten, and dragon glass basically disappeared though? With dragonsteel being so limited it still seems like the south can't do much against the wights or the white walkers, as we saw at the fist of the first men. Fire arrows do fuck all.


>>121357852
>>121357869
I will be so fucking pissed if he just says loldragons and crowns Dany. Would feel like a huge copout. The prophecy of who will save the world even specifies that a "he" grabs the sword and turns the battle around, so yeah.

Isn't the Long Night a global event, by the way? Azor Ahai was from Asshailast time, so it must be
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>>121356278
>can't fix mods himself
lmao tbqh
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>>121359437
Are you fucking kidding me?

The prophesy being a load of fucking retarded shit would be great.

Too many fantasy run around with fucking retarded prophesy shit.
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>>121360262
Prophecies are a retarded and lazy piece of shit plot device, I agree. Still, the dude wrote it so I can't see a way to go about it without retconning the whole thing. Maybe that'd be the best option though.
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>>121366217

Thanks big ben
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This man >>121367832 is your ennemy.
He wants the thread to die.
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>>121368201
>Page 7
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So, if the player and lords have to play over generations, what about the heroes?
Do they age and die? If they go without leaving kids, does a new one appear in the world?
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>>121359437
>dragon glass basically disappeared though?
It's literally obsidian. We still have volcanoes.
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>>121369443
>our fathers won the throne together, help me keep it
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>>121369704
Dis my jam
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>>121353098
Don't like it at all. It feels a lot like GRRM's own magical realm with all the poorly written rape scenes. It doesn't help either that GRRM doesn't even have prose to speak of.
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>>121353098
yea it was a marshalled force they where trying to siege a castle from the sea
It worked
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>>121353098
I haven't read a single (modern) fantasy book since I finished secondary education.

Which is like 9 years ago?

The only 'fantasy' I read these days is old classic shit, like Lovecraft, Howard and Tolkien.

Frankly I've completely forgot what ASoIAF is about aside from that the Lannisters are a bunch of scheming edgelords.
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>>121297570
I like "bowman." They're men with bows but not skilled enough to be called archers. Also has alliterative appeal with Bartley.
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How do I git gud with cavalry /mbg/? I try to use them as skirmishers but they seem to get destroyed really easily.
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>>121377804
if its knigger cavalry try to keep it away from the other cavalry and things like archers, crossbows, angry peasants with pointy sticks etc.
If its swadian cavalry just tell it to charge and watch it kill every thing
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>>121377804
Wait for your infantry to clash with the enemy if you're having those kinds of issues.
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>>121374496
>poorly written rape scenes

I can't really think of any graphically depicted rape scenes in the book desu. Any examples? I'm not defending, I promise, I just want to know.

>>121369584
True, but excavating for obsidian during medieval times would be a bitch and they don't really know where to look, only the forest midgets knew that. And they can't make dragonsteel either because Valyria is still dead as balls.

>>121376625
It's actually pretty good man, although the part about the Lannisters being self-insert edgelords sometimes is true. You should know what you're getting into though, it's a quick fix of fantasy and nothing more. It's fun, not world changing and that's cool by me. Character development is the best part of the books by far, the rest is kind of meh.

>>121377804
Your cavalry should never stay engaged with enemy infantry for long once they've charged, they get singled out and surrounded easily. Try to charge > retreat > charge > retreat, and try to flank if you've a large infantry force who can attack up front while horses go around.
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>>121380098
No I just meant the rape scenes and how prevalent they are. The poorly written part extends to the whole books- GRRM has worse prose and reads more dry than Tolkien.
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>>121380098
>book desu

that was unintentional i swear
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