OC edition. Because this sucks.
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Lots of shit is happening! ANTs are on PTS kind of! Continent lock rework is in progress! LMG changes and the Orion got buffed! Wait, what?
Update time! Victory points! LMG changes! Bounty Directive! Devs breaking the game!
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/game-update-10-29.234796/
The Halloween event is still live with silly hats for you to buy at 10x the price of last year's event.
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/nanites-of-the-dead-is-now-available.233491/
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Vanu get euphoric for Halloween.
http://imgur.com/a/x0Fpt
Yell chat is now the primary chat
https://twitter.com/AndySites/status/654399607779098625
New creative director, Jens Andersen, does an AMA
https://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/3o4x3d/ask_the_new_executive_creative_director_almost/
Previous patch notes, player-placed cashmoney bounties:
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/bounty-update-10-2.233851/
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Planetside 2 on Playstation 4 is live! We don't really know shit about the PS4 version, so console players, you're outta luck here if you've got PS4 specific questions.
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>What is this game?
http://pastebin.com/baxwRMDg
>How do I play?
http://pastebin.com/CWn3VQJD
>How do I play? (advanced)
http://pastebin.com/p0ZwzqSu
>Tweaks and optimizations
http://pastebin.com/MEqFBUut
>Weapon stats and vehicle weapons
http://pastebin.com/341Dv7Y6
>Suggested weapons for new guys to aim for
http://pastebin.com/nxNE1Az3
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Last time on /ps2g/: Same old story, same old song and dance.
>>120678875
first for nuke russia
Second for burgerland
>>120938717
third for
>ORBS
>>120936310
>Pretty sure it is a worse carv now, so it's pretty shit.
It's a worse MSW-R.
Vertical recoil - Orion - 0.4, MSW-R 0.35
Effective horizontal tolerance with foregrip - Orion - 0.54 degree, MSW- 0.36 degree (!)
Maximum damage range - Orion - 10m, MSW-R 15m
Velocity - Orion - 540 m/s, MSW-R 580 m/s
Cone of fire - 0.35 with 0.05 bloom, 0.40 with 0.04 Bloom. For the first 5 shots MSW-R is more accurate cof wise.
Only thing where Orion really is better is lack of recoil angle.
>>120939387
>0.05 bloom
>>120939387
For the first 5 shots everything is pretty much pin-point accurate.
It's not until ~10-15 rounds that bloom ever becomes a problem on most guns, and that is where the Orion is going to do much better. It's especially important for medium-long range fire, or shooting at a small target like the head.
muh adad
>select flare gun
>NS-11CP is now my flare gun
Honestly, I'm ok with this
0.75 ADS has been removed and now I can finally post this image.
>>120939387
worse carv m9, you can throw all the spreadshit you want at it, and it will still be a worse carv
>>120939696
yes, MSW-R has 0.05 degree/shot cof bloom
>>120939914
You should never go past 5-7 shots per burst anyway (unless you are bad)
>>120940517
pretty much, CARV is SUBSTANTIALLY better ;)
poor oppressed vanu
>>120941908
A burst doesn't magically and immediately reset your CoF to 0, it takes time.
And, interestingly enough, when your CoF blooms less, your burst fire is going to be more effective because bloom hasn't grown as much - once again, a benefit at mid-long range shooting.
Potentially, there is now a burst fire rate with these buffed VS weapons where they can burst fire almost indefinitely without appreciable increase in bloom at a speed conducive to actual combat.
>>120943181
It's a good thing they have to reload.
>>120941908
>pretty much, CARV is SUBSTANTIALLY better ;)
indeed, that's what makes it beautiful
>Orion got nerfed
>Russian situation is worse than ever
>constant stuttering
welp
>>120944674
>>120944850
>I'm still butthurt at VS
so nothing changed?
Why is the Aphelion so bad? This gun needs a SERIOUS buff or two.
>tfw once upon a time we had multiple threads per day
>>120945860
Fuck off VS. They need to nerf it to Gatekeeper levels
>>120944782
>nerf
>>120946802
>buff
>>120946926
berf
>Can't even get away from Vanu Shitposters when watching BF4 videos
>>120947012
out fucking skilled
>>120947012
>HA will never be a shit class like Support that people barely even play
;_;
>>120947145
Does the inside of a Bio Lab always look like the sewage main broke on low settings, or is that just the continental lighting?
>>120946802
Yes. If you're good at the game, the thing that kills you most is being unable to hit warping .75 ADS hitboxes.
>>120947294
Shitters don't even know how to play support properly.
I remember back in the day, I was a fucking nightmare for enemy players onlockers no explosivessimply by camping the outside as support.
I could hold off up to eight people at once when I set up at my favourite places, as long as nobody was retarded and let enemies slip right past them to flank me from behind.
>>120941908
Yet 90% of the TR don't use the T9-CARV/T9A Butcher like the VS used the Orion/Betelgeuse.
If the VS would have just spread out their gun use they wouldn't have had that problem
I know this because I've noticed the gun use changes of those VS killing me is changing to a variety of LMG's while the TR remains pretty varied (although hardly anybody uses the MCG).
>>120947707
That's some shitty graphic setting anon has put on it. Mine looks nout like that.
>>120947979
the ES Heavy Guns have always been "funsies" weapons. except the jackhammer.
>orion gets nerfed
>people cant complain about it anymore
feels good man :^)
>>120948492
no no no
the MCG is for funsies
the Jackhammer is for big boom
the Lasher is for giving the enemy free kills
>>120948597
Lasher is for spamming with a few friends to kill FPS. Used to also be for spamming towers to surprising effect.
>checking PS2 twitters
>end up at t-ray's
>first post is talking about purple drank
this fucking nigger
where's my purple fucking spandex
So yeah, lockdown is broken at the moment.
You immediately undeploy the moment you hit the button.
Ok. so what's with people suddenly stopping and becoming invulnerable?
>>120951165
Disconnected. It's really fucking annoying when a push gets halted by all the retards getting shot because they all stopped to try to kill the statue.
>>120950764
You've got to admit it makes a nice change from the usual ways it breaks.
>>120951559
We had this almost full squad freeze right infront of us, it was surreal. I think it was a LAN party.
>>120948056
>That's some shitty graphic setting anon has put on it.
>>120947707
>Does the inside of a Bio Lab always look like the sewage main broke
It only looks like that sometimes, no idea what triggers itmaybe it happens when there is too many shitters inside :^)
>godsaw has better horizontal recoil/tolerance than pulsar LSW
>the lower bloom per shot means the Pulsar LSW gets better horizontal recoil in actual practice
>>120952036
>believing this shitty site
>firing your weapon full auto
>>120951953but you're the only one in there :^)
>tfw 30/30 accuracy/hsr on almost every gun
feels average bros
>>120952319FUG xD
>>120952462
That's actually well above average.
Average is 16-19%.
>>120952671
Probably means average for people who don't eat glue.
>>120952036
>godsaw with 167 damage
Nice try faggot
Here's what it really looks like
>>120953135
>not eating glue
shit
>>120953189
Cmon people, this site is shite
S H I T P O S T I N G
>>120947294
I don't know what's going on in the latest BF games, but in BF2142 the support class was very powerful. They had infinite nades and a HMG that raped anything it touched. They also had something similar to the infil darts and also the engie turret. I loved that game.
>>120955668
S H I T T I N G
>>120955759
I always wanted to play it, but never got the chance because shit-tier computer and no money.
Now I have some money and an average computer, but bf2142 is like half a decade old.
And it STILL looks better than the current crop of battlefield games.
>>120955771
S H I T T I N G while P O S T I N G
>>120952462
>>120952671
>tfw below that hsr and accuracy
>still kill regularly people with much better stats than me
why do people care about stats
>>120956295
to see how well you're doing compared to guns you used when you couldn't aim
>>120956295
anime is garbage
>>120957145
baka desu senpai
>>120955961
Older games didn't have many post processing effects. There was no DOF, color aberration, lens flares, blur, color filters and other crap like that. Most had bloom but that's nowhere near as annoying as the shit you see today. 2007-2010 were great years for graphics in video games. Sure, they weren't as realistic and detailed as today's games, but they were "cleaner". You don't feel like you're watching edited GoPro footage when you're playing 2142.
Battlefield 2142 is dead btw. They shut down the servers ;_;
>>120948594
>the same shitters who complained about 0.75 ADS still get turbodunked by the same good players with the same weapon
Tankers truly are the universally hated shitters of Planetside.
"I-I shouldn't be destroyed by someone who takes the time to get horizontally into melee range against my high-speed anti-infantry death machine! It's not fair, j-just set it on fire!"
Like, at least fighting other air vehicles as an ESF takes some semblance of accuracy and basically everyone wants your asshole when you play liberator or Galaxy, anti infantry tanks are just lame.
>>120958604
vanu and/or libs
Did they ever give Heavy Assault a good nerf? One of my biggest issues with this game was that the infantry play was so stale due to the HA meta.
>>120958891
lol
>>120958891
They just got a buff
>>120958821
The thing about Vanu and Libs is that from what I recall a lot of them accept and wallow in the fact that their some of their garbage is plainly unfair.
Some of the tonkers I've met are plainly deluded.
>>120958541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS0X6oPrQps
>>120959089
to what end
>TFW the game hitching completely wrecks your flawless killfeed with a 'technicality suicide'
>4790K
>100% CPU usage
>50 FPS
>tfw Butcher is now better than Beetlejuice
We did it boys.
>>120960131
kek desu ne
>>120960075
I N S A N E cpu usage
>>120960075
you probably have some dumb setting like anything above low or shadows turned on
>new cert screen makes it impossible to upgrade the AV turret
>>120962232
>playing engineer
niceme.me
>tfw The Brass notices you
>>120962232
I didn't know you could upgrade it. What do the upgrades do?
Oh, and anothet noob question: where do I go to upgrade the ammo box? People say that the game always prioritizes the highest level when there are other boxes nearby. That sounds sweet but I can't figure out how to do it.
>>120963910
I wish I could stop being a filthy statpadder
i did it senpai
these were all MCY and all 2/3 or 3/3
>flying backwards
>>120957446
>2007-2010 were great years for graphics in video games
But that's exactly when those effects became popular. Remember CoD:MW2?
>>120965049
what does MCY mean? 2/3 3/3 of what?
>>120965509
apparently AA AH is OP
>>120965727
MCY supposedly is the best outfit on miller NCalmost all of them are padding shitters, although there are a few decent players, and 2/3 and 3/3 means those libs all have two or three people in them
>>120965971
>MCY supposedly is the best outfit on miller NC
Nah, that's CLAB
>>120966125
>supposedly
>>120965971
>taunting
>AND sending a tell
but why?
Mosquitoes should be able to land on galaxies and sunderers and suck nanites out of them.
Haven't played in months. Did SOE really kek my Orion?
>>120967139
they buffed it.
0.75 benefited shitters. Shitters can't aim, so the accuracy buffs it received is lost on them. However, top-tier players are still fucking everything up with them.
And they nerfed the anchor.
Dling this game never played before.
Am I a bit late or is the game still alive?
>>120967296
>And they nerfed the anchor.
And for a reason. Now if they'd only nerf the Cyclone.
>>120967296
I wish you bads could stop with this shit. They didn't buff it, it's nothing like it was before. No more IWIN every duel bullshit.
>>120967647
Why would anyone want to nerf SMG?
>>120967678
lol
>>120967914
LOL
>>120967843
It's an assault rifle that accidentally got classified as a SMG.
>>120968000
>being a shitter
>>120967678
It was nerfed it such a way it's still the best gun in the game.
Vanu entitlement.
that feel when maxed med tool and one rank from maxing regen field. I am become cert-printer, buyer of farming implements.
thank-you whoever in the last thread recommended trying for the 500+1000 cert levels.
Keking so many other medics. I guess they all don't bother buying the 500cert rank.
>>120968093
The best guns in the general are burst ARs. Nothing comes close to them
>>120968068
6 meters, why not bitch about the eridani that can do max damage at ten meters ?
>>120968098
What does it feel like to be a bottom feeding shitter?
>>120967567
a bit late, the game is still alive somehow
>>120967139
it's worse, but still good
comparable to MSW-R at short range, significantly better at long range
>>120967296
nah
>>120967647
pls
>>120968068
literally what the fuck
>>120968282
can't use those on a 1.8k EHP class
>>120968075
Yes you are a shitter
>>120968068
No its a sniper rifle classified as tank gun. I've heard it can pierce Prowlers armour from 300m.
>>120968352
>implying I play as kek-medic, and not planetman who occasionally revives, and has a continual stream of regen field exp
Nice try HA shitter
>>120968341
Soft point increases it to 12 meters, and you can run extended mags and still have INSANE hipfire and ADS accuracy.
>>120968282
Except the, yeah you know what
>>120968470
Wouldn't be surprised if it can
>>120968867
>Except the, yeah you know what
Russian hackers in flying invincible aimbot chain gun maxes?
>>120968867
>Soft point increases it to 12 meters
holly shit does sp ammo do this to all guns ?
where do you guys learn all this stuff, they don't give to much info in the game itself, and I haven't seen anything on that here in the general.
>>120968407
>It's comparable to the MSW-R at close range, but it's significantly better at long range
The MSW-R is one of the best CQC LMGs available. When they buff the thing so it competes with the MSW-R in CQC but still functions well at long range, then the Orion is the best gun in the game.
>>120969149
It's 11m not 12 on SMG's. Usually it's just 5m more.
>>120968867
Except that statistically, it's performance isn't even 5% above the Eridani.
The cyclone's the best SMG, but if it's the overpowered monster you're claiming it is, then ALL the SMG's are overpowered monsters. The TR's best SMG is only 3% below the Cyclone on average - the differences are literally marginal.
Meanwhile the Betelgeuse, and now Pulsar LSW are doing ~20% better than the Anchor.
And not a peep from Vanu assholes about THAT.
The Eridani could use a small buff.
The betelgeuse and pulsar need a large nerf, or the TR and NC need their guns to get equivalent buffs.
Maybe a year from now we'll actually see it happen.
>>120969206
No the best guns in the game are still burst ARs.
It doesn't really function that good at range (from my 300 or so kills experience after the change), not sure if it's crap velocity or added recoil.
>>120940496
A year from now people will still be bitching about the orion's .75 that no longer exists
>>120969329
thanks for the tip buddy, but why the fuck don't they put this info in the game, this feels like need to know stuff ?
>>120968407
>lower KPH
>lower KPU
>eridani still highest KDR of the 3
>>120969782
Cause in game tool tips say crap about guns.
But you know, at least you get basic stats like cof and damage drop. In battlefield games you get exactly nothing.
Has anyone ever ripped the voice files from the game? I want to see what's going unused in the files.
>>120969979
The average person gets either scared or confused when they see a spreadsheet of numbers.
>>120967678
Its like you didn't even read my post.
any TR on emerald? we're getting buttfucked by the gooks
This general is Dunning-Kruger: the thread. You all think you are the second coming of MLGsus because you can maintain some arbitrary KDR and accuracy number. The reason why you can do so is that the average shitter is playing on a laptop at silky smooth 15 fps, and you nerds have your pay2win rigs with a Skylake CPU, GTX 980Ti, 165Hz monitor, 150€ optical gaming mouse and 100mbps internet.
Ever tried any other game that actually takes skill and doesn't need a high end PC to get framerates where aiming is actually possible? Pretty sure you'd be average at best.
>someone at DBG actually thought this version of the pulsar LSW was 'balanced'
LMAO
>>120972047
Hi shitter.
>>120971692
My main is on emerald. I highly doubt asians would play on an east coast server
>>120972047
>Ever tried any other game that actually takes skill and doesn't need a high end PC to get framerates where aiming is actually possible? Pretty sure you'd be average at best.
I was pretty good at CS actually, good times.
>>120972047
my rig didn't cost much more than an xbone and the game runs just fine, what the fuck are you bitching about ?
>>120972228
by gooks i mean anyone who isnt tr
>>120973039
No, that would be niggers AND gooks.
>tfw rumbel seating in a harraser as aa max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2MCIzfUAI
>>120968375
le ded game fedora tip brushie brushie desu desu boxxy meme
Whats better for XP farming,
Upgraded Galaxy or Upgraded Prowler?
>>120974451
Gal.
>>120958541
I thought that VS performance has dropped
>>120974451
Prowler, unless you like spamming bulldogs off cliffs on Hossin.
>>120974736
The number of shitTRs getting dunked with my orion has increased SUBSTANTIALLY.
>>120974736
Orion performance has gone up actually. Overall it got buffed not nerfed.
>>120974985
Orion takes no skill.
It's an aimbot weapon.
When are they going to get around to buffing the magrider? The whole point is mobility - it strafes way too slow. Needs at least 1.5x the strafe power, and magburner needs way more fuel too.
>>120975148
hell yeah it is, shitTR
>>120975148
Pulsar LSW is the skill now.
>>120974541
Why? I'm playing on Ps4 and aircraft controls are godawful
>>120974816
Anti-Armor or Anti-Inf Prowler? or Mixed?
>>120975189
stay at range, have you ever tried lobbing rockets at one from 40+ meters they are almost immune to rockets at long range, even dropping c4 on them is way harder to do than on other tanks.
>>120975775
>not recognising blatant shitposting
sasuga shiTR
>>120975698
Always pull AP unless there's a good infantry farm, in which case use HE.
Max anchored mode and get a few ranks of ammo as soon as you can.
>PS4
>>120975189
>buffing the magrider
kek
>>120975189
>>120976282
Alright sounds good. So I guess anchor mode is the first upgrade I should get?
>PS4
Poorfag here please understandu
gotta love this guy
it had to end like this
TR/NC OP
>>120976673
AP, racer 1, anchor 1 and 2, stealth 1 and 2, racer 2, anchor 3 and 4, stealth 3 and 4, racer 3, maxed reload speed. Throw in a few ranks of ammo here and there.
If you're soloing you'll want a Walker on the top to scare off aircraft, if you have a regular gunner use the Halberd or Vulcan depending on the range at which you like engaging at. Use the Gatekeeper if you're a faggot and like using OP weapons.
>>120978897
>Gatekeeper is OP
>>120979050
>getting so few kills with a blatantly op weapon that can snipe mbts 1000m away
HAHA what a bunch of fucking retards!
>>120979050
>practically 0 CoF/bloom
>500 m/s, no drop
>DPS comparable to Halberd and Enforcer
>not OP
>>120974451
stealth marauder harasser
>>120979629
>i can't force TR tanks to brawl in dick touching range anymore
abloo bloo bloo
>>120980182
TR tanks never "brawled". They just sat on hills and farmed spawn rooms from a couple miles away.
>>120979434
You can snipe MBTs with an Archer too.
>>120980446
Is the Archer more useful for shitting on vehicles than RLs?
>>120980182
>implying that was ever the case
just stop
>>120980712
Nope, it's shit. Damage is so low even blatant killstealing is tricky as fuck.
Fagriders like to retreat with about 0.51% HP though so that's your best bet.
So what's this then?
Also, it's been a while since a definitive options pasta. Somebody in the loop should update, yo.
>more than a month has passed since das autism said the stat site would be up again soon
I think it's gone for good
>>120981160
a full squad of archers is as effective as three competent decis. granted, at ~200m decis are pretty hard to hit.
>tfw you finally get comfortable with the CARV's recoil
Holy shit. It's like riding a bicycle for the first time. I can't believe this is the same gun.
>>120982107
What recoil?
>>120981627
Good, because it was driving people into the stat padding lifestyle.
>missed shot arcs over a hill
>hits a 6/12 Gal
>it crashes
PlanetSide.
>There are still Halberd Prowlers driving around
>>120982107
If a weapon requires skill to use, it's a shitty weapon. TR is still UP.
>>120985265
Halberd's still the best way to make niggers dead. Everyone's fucking bored with it though.
>>120984219
Reminds me of those
>get sticky grenade on heavily damaged MAX
>MAX runs back to friendly cover and its waiting engineer swarm
>engineers swarm MAX, as MAX runs towards them
>5+ kills
moments.
>>120965509
>that dull and unimpressive webm
it looks like you are a newbie
welcome, newfriend.
>>120965509
Airbears are basically the least productive planetmen, and their entire game is based on a bug. I never tire of blowing BR 20s and 100s alike out of the sky.
>>120986340
>shitter company are zerging everything again
>>120988583
>>120988583
>>120990174
>sticky nade a guy twice in 15 minutes during a bio lab fight
>guy goes full spurg in chat about how I'm harassing him by targeting him only
>use my LA to drop C4 on a VS sundy later on
>Killed the same guy as he spawned in
>Whispers me telling me he's reported me to DBG for cyber bullying
A-am I doing good, guys?
>>120993539
No, you're a shitter.
>>120943181
>it takes time.
Not arguing for VS LMGs, but it's really short. Specifically, after a delay equal to the refire rate, it resets at 20 degrees per second for everything except a few oddities which reset slightly slower (Bursters reset at 10/s, the Blackhand resets even slower I think, there might be a couple others).
For example, an extended mag EM6 will bloom out to 12 degrees if fired without pause for the entire magazine. Refire rate is 100ms, then bloom reset will take 600ms more.
A more likely example is, say, an Orion fired for 10 shots: 80ms refire + 20ms for bloom reset. A CARV would take 80ms for refire, then 25ms for bloom reset and so on.
>HEY GUYS GUYS, LET'S DISCUSS HA AND LMG METRICS AGAIN
EVERY SINGLE PS2G THREAD
>>120996509
>EVERY SINGLE THING RELATED TO PS2
fixed that for you
Best TR carbine for Engi? Close-mid range.
>>120998967
ns11c, TR have no good carbines
>>120998967
Jag.
TRAC-5 is fine too.
>>120998967
Jaguar
ADADAD ike a motherfucker with the .75 ads
Use a grip and SPA too
>>120972294
The most casual trash on the market? Good one shitter
>>120999846
>sent from silver 2
>>120999039
>ns11c
Everything about it is pretty much just a worse T5 Amc but with 0.75 ADS
>>121000158
Well who'd have thought 0.75 ADS was a thing that needed balanced.
>tfw when total pro with the Valk
>tfw can't do its directives cause my whole faction is full incompetent retards
Noob here. Main medic/engi on NC
I have over 700 certs. Any suggestions on what I should buy?
>>121003438
Make sure you fill out your lots first, i.e. nanoweave or flak armor, AOE heal upgrades etc before getting a new gun. Gauss rifle and mercenary are good guns for all situations/ranges
>>120998967
Lynx for max dakka
Jaguar if you want the best carbine
>>120983905
If you hold down the mouse button for too long, bullets start to go everywhere. Becoming comfortable with a weapon's recoil means reflexively knowing how long each burst should be, and how much you should drag the mouse down or to the side when firing.
>>121003438
Max out your healing tool.
Get revive nades.
Get grenade bandolier level 2.
Start maxing out that regeneration field.
You are now a cert producing factory.
>>120972047
>pay2win rigs
>>120975241
>Pulsar LSW is the skill now.
>0.75 ads gone
>MSW-R now a king of MLG
>shiTRs are still getting rekt
>b-but L-LSW is now OP, it's why i'm dying so much!
kek
who /grind to 10k certs before spending any/ here?
>>120996509
>Hey guys, three 1.5 ivi kds 20% acc autistic bads are ruining ps2g with their shitty graphs and spreadsheets again
EVERY SINGLE PS2G
>>121013315
>implying i engage in foot peasantry
>>121013280
who /grind to 50k certs before spending any/ here?
>>121013446
yet you still shitpost your graphs
>>121013456
>being a member
>2015
are you serious?
for you memerald players, is ANGC a euro outift or something
>le poor connection instagibbing feeling
>>120972047
Does a GTX660 and i5 count as a pay2win rig?
>>121014028
lol
>>121013890
it's recurring and i'm too lazy to cancel it and it still charges promotional fee of 9$ per month (despite me being europoor) so not that much of a deal.
>Heavy Assault can now use assault rifles
>LMGs now have shitterrible hipfire accuracy and nearly uncontrollable recoil unless crounched, ADS'd and immobile.
Look guise I fixt PS2.
Daysony gamebreakers plz hire me.
>>120981587
Maybe it's a HA overshield nerf.
Hit the button and it takes 1 second to activate. Would be an indirect buff to resist in that case.
>>121014178
>HA's can now use Burst AR's
>"I fixed PS2"
pls leave
>>121014178
That's a fucking horrible idea
>>121014517
>>121014498
Overpowered medicrutches detected
>>120995593
Can you provide this as a formula?
I want to calculate the ideal number of rounds fired and subsequent pause between bursts for best bloom effect.
>>121014178
How about: Remove all CQB LMG's.
Focus the LMG's on medium-long range combat.
Maybe it'll convince people to play classes other than heavy assaults finally.
>>121015495
Thats kinda my intent with the change.
Make run and gun with an LMG non viable, if you want to CQB heavy, use an AR.
you can defensive CQB as heavy by taking good positions and staying still. I don't wanna go so far as to have a deploy mechanic ala Day of Defeat, but give them sniper rifle like accuracy nerfs while moving.
How big of a thing is 0.75 ADS?
I was looking at buying either the TAR or burst variant cycler. People here seem to talk up 0.75 as one of the defining OP things on the Orion, and TAR has got that, but then people also say the burst's are best.
>>121016036
Problem with the TAR is the horrendous horizontal recoil after it got nerfed hard ages ago
>ITT: shitters
>>121016036
It buffs your KDR because it makes you harder to kill, especially against the average shitter.
Doesn't help you kill people though.
>>121016036
Orion hasn't had .75 for DAYS
>>121015320
1000 / (ROF / 60) + bloom * shots_fired * 50 = delay to bloom reset, in ms, after the last shot was fired
e.g. 20-shot burst SAW is 1000 / (500 / 60) + 0.07 * 20 * 50 = 190ms
>>121016036
As >>121016101, the TAR's horizontal recoil really is horrendous, it has higher horizontal tolerance than any other gun in the game, as well as some of the harshest per-shot recoil.
Its primary use used to be as a big SMG, extremely tight hipfire on top of top-tier DPS, but then the .75 ADS nerfs came along and made its ADS handle like shit, and the laser sight nerfs happened around the same time that made its hipfire mediocre with an advanced laser, so now it doesn't do anything particularly well.
>>121016763
Oh I forgot to mention they nerfed the TAR's audio too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfq77YSYaU
I miss it screaming FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU when it fired
>>121017478
Holy shit that sounds good.
Why do TR guns sound so lame now? Why do VS guns sound like TR guns now?
>>121017478
That sounds amazing.
Like, ranger AA tier good sounding, only I guess the TAR wasn't useless.
>>121016763
What's the 50 represent?
Also, it looks like shorter bursts hardly even change the length of time you need to wait.
And you said that the bloom decrease is 20 degrees per second? So after 190ms, the bloom would decrease 3.8 degrees?
>>121018107
The 50 is just a simplified (1000 / 20), where the 20 is degrees per second and the 1000 is to turn it from seconds into ms.
>Also, it looks like shorter bursts hardly even change the length of time you need to wait.
Yeah, pretty much. For typical bursts, most of the reset time is in the refire delay rather than the bloom decay phase.
>And you said that the bloom decrease is 20 degrees per second? So after 190ms, the bloom would decrease 3.8 degrees?
Not quite, in that example the first 120ms is just waiting for the refire delay, then bloom reset kicks in at 20 degrees per second (COF and bloom is also in degrees, by the way), which takes another 70ms to decay 1.4 degrees of bloom.
I know the calculation sounds fast, but I verified by going over recordings frame-by-frame at one point and it was always spot on.
Fun fact, bloom reset speed is actually defined separately for every fire mode and for every animation state (standing, walking, crouching, crouch-walking, sprinting and falling), for every weapon. A weapon with a semi, burst and auto selector has its bloom reset speed internally defined 18 different times, and all of them are always set to 20. Efficiency.
>>121019601
That wasn't a fun fact at all.
why so ded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCV2L0c6K0
>>120975698
>ps4
Server?
pls be genudine,all the random TRs are almost as dumb as NC
>>121024484
Onulle pls
>>121016036
No, turns out 0.75 was nothing important. The most important thing now is 0.01 degree better bloom. It what makes TR weapons UP and VS weapons dramatically overpowered
>>121024701
>playign on PS4
why?
>>121025976
It's 25% better cof bloom
>>121026001
SUBSTANTIALLY better
>>121026143
P R E P O S T E R O U S L Y
>>121026767
S H I T T E R S
>wanted to play planetmans
>roleplayed all night instead
![398bba30fd2545c993c36e3fa09196c2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0fq4kdZ.jpg "398bba30fd2545c993c36e3fa09196c2[1].jpg")
DED
>>121029442
1-3: shot planetmans
4-9: work
0: fuck it, take a nap
