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New Mad Elichan 4 ~Hellrod of Nightmares~ Edition

Previous >>118675509

>PSA:
- The friendlist spreadsheet has been reset. Add your servant again if you want.

>[New 400M celebration event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php

Upcoming Halloween Event (temporary name) confirmed, Elizabeth costume revealed.
Elizabeth costume will be obtained via the Halloween Event (aka farm until your eyes bleed)(not gatcha)

>[New shop content]
The shop now has new stuff you can get with mana cubes:
- Red box contents: 4 summoning tickets, 4 exp 4*, 3 atk fous, 3 hp fous.
- Skillstone/Piece/Monument: By buying these you get a set with one item for each class (7 total).
- We have until the end of October to get these gifts, and we'll get some mana cubes every day for the next 15 days.
- We have more than one year to get the summoning tickets and the crystalized lore.

>Latest patch notes (9/23)
http://pastebin.com/EXCYV8F0

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/G669xgbK

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T(toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet (Reset!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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Just woke up and saw the event, so the only ones who are getting something are people with Liz? Great job dw
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Xth for the UNRIVALED
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>requires quartz refill or insane amount of luck to get

Welcome to "free"
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Xth for fucking finally.
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>>118702571
No. You get Spooky Liz for free if you complete the Halloween event.
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never ever
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>>118702365
literally liz with different costume

FUCK, shouldve picked REDMAN
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>>118702630
>it's not even a raid
>people who have Liz are given the middle finger
I wish I knew this sooner I would've picked another free fucking unit
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>>118702731
She apparently plays differently with different skills, so it's at least kind of different.
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Assassin type of event would've worked perfectly with the Halloween theme. Not Carrot.
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>>118702689
>>118702731

No, they already confirmed Halloween Liz is a different from normal Liz.
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Lmao I feel so bad for people who picked liz I'm so fucking happy I get liz.
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>>118702778
>>118702796
Good to hear, appears I've been rused by the OP then
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>>118702571
OP is a faggot, don't believe his lies.
Read the news from cirno instead.

>>118702689
>not wanting double liz
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>>118702668
CASKO WHEN
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>>118702810
If someone liked Liz enough to pick them, why wouldn't they want a second? I think that sounds fine, I'd gladly take Double Medusa or Double Tamamo
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>>118702841
never ever
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Pumpkin butt?
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>>118702903
Because sabers
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>>118702668
>>118702841
>>118702923
Blue Ranger?
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>>118702903
I only picked her because she had a skillset I needed at the time, now that I know this I would've pocked Emiya and made an arts team
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>>118702973
Blue Ranger!
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>>118702980
she is gonna have a diffrent skill set... fam
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>>118699119
Okay, 'one' other mobage does this
What is TB anyway?

>>118702580
This is what I am expecting too
The last battle will be whales only hard
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For the faggots who are taking the OP as truth: The event Liz will be a reward once you have finished the event quests. She will be a different version of Liz. I'm pretty sure there will also be other stuff for the event but nothing else has been revealed.
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>>118703081
I tink TB is terra battle? Aren't too sure
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I think those of us who use liz and ascended her are the one's being screwed over (unless you're a lizfag who wants double liz). Chances are she won't be worth the effort to level up a second time and will probably be inferior like lily.

So yeah, shit event for me.
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>>118703031
Power Rangers!
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cute Liz and her cute VA
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>>118703217
Ehhhh, cheer up. You're sure to get a shit load of Lancer pieces and monuments probably. If your Liz is already topped off and wearing her silly hat, save them for Scathach. Either way, you'll benefit from the event, I guarantee it
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Every thread for the pussy destroyer.
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Yea TB is terra battle.
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>>118702668
Where can I find the rest of the leaked art like this? It's not in the mega pastebin.
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>>118702593
Which stage is that? Doesn't the only map that drops that today is the 30 AP bond quest? And that doesn't have the forest background.
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People will be so fucking disappointed when they see the shit stats and skills of the PumpkinLiz
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Please let there be Twin Crystals this event.
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>>118704073
Aki Kashi?
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>>118704073
You'd think Ushi would put on some clothes when it started snowing, and not just slap more armor on her arms and legs.
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>>118703910
Spreadsheet, drop table
there is your answer
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>>118703910
Was an interlude.
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>>118704268
Japanese winter is pretty light though. I mean. they lived with paper walls.
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>>118704269
Yeah learn to actually know what you're talking about next time.

>>118704313
Cheers.
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>>118704268
>doesn't wear armor during the cold
What a noob.
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>>118704391
>Japanese winter is pretty light
It can get really fucking cold in Japan. Not everyone used those shitty paper walls.
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>>118704391
If Shogun taught me anything, it's that Japanese winter can fuck you up something fierce. They've got Yuki onna walking around and shit, that's some serious business
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>>118703818
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3954995552
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>>118704642
Don't those live in the mountains?
Also, i suppose she could wear more in days like that
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>Gilgamesh and Jeanne are fully ascended
Where was this when I actually needed it?

Guess I'll upgrade Gil's Charisma with those
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>>118704391
Japan has a similar north-to-south reach as the contiguous United States, so I imagine it would depend quite a lot on where in the country you are.
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>>118704759
Thanks anon.
>I need an account.
Fuck.
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>>118704875
An account for what?
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>>118703081
>What is TB anyway?
Terra Battle, a mobage.
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>>118704642
>not wanting yuki
It must be hard to be this gay.
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Does anyone have the original to >>118695396

Apparently it was renamed/cropped and Google/iqdb turn up nothing
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>>118704903
To see the thread past page 1.
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>>118705117
I can open the other pages without an account.
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>>118705081
>wanting that instead of this
>calling others gay
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>>118705154
Well shit I can't. And I just tried making an account but failed the verification too many times since I don't know how to read Chinese so I'll wait til tomorrow or something.
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>>118702365
>mfw Triple Liz team
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>>118705158
Yukihime is better
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>>118705154
>>118705306
Nevermind it works when I change the url directly. Maybe it's getting past my adblock or something.
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>>118703081
Granblue Fantasy also gives out free unites during events that are pretty good.

I'm tired of all these retards that come into this thread and go "No other moba does this!" and then people have to list off several good moba's that actually do.
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When is the new event?
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>>118705465
>moba
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>>118705465
Okay, two mobages I know of now
Actually, four, One Piece Treasure Cruise does as well, and so does Nanatsu no taizai Pocket Knights

Still, considering this game just barely managed to get login rewards up to mobage standards, forget everything else, it's not healthy to expect anything but maximum jewing from them
I am sure there will be something to drain people of their money in this event.
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With which ROMA they're going to feud Iskander with?
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>>118705591
Madoka Online did it too but to get the SS version of the servant you had to beat whales or get lucky in the rankings
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>tfw reverse scale drops never
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Just give me the fucking Jack already.
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>>118705791
Don't lose hope, anon!
I got one today after 3 weeks of farming and countless quartz refills.
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>>118705791
They seem to be dropping all the time today for alot of people, just got the one i need for Gil's last ascension.
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>>118705767
That was impossible since all the super whales teamed up together.
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>>118705791
Are you making sure to use a lucky leader?
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>>118705906
Coming soon in London
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>>118705906
same
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>>118705791
I broke my unlucky streak and got a Snake Gem after I don't know how many Sundays. You'll get that scale eventually
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>>118706037
>That was impossible

Stop having E-luck
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>>118706259
Not even U you can't fool me
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I wonder if Halloween Liz will have her dragon breath NP or if she'll just be a slightly worse complete copy.
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Why is Artemis considered bad? I think she is quite good.
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>>118706825
No one thinks she's 'bad', she just isn't as useful as the other 5*s.
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>>118706913
but she's better than waver, right? that's something
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>>118706986
Better at dealing damage sure but Waver isn't a damage Servant, he's a support Servant.
He also doesn't have another 5* Caster to compare him with, while Artemis loses to Gilgamesh pretty hard.
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>>118706751
You could get the SS if you ended in places like 3.333 or 666you had to check them
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>>118706825
She is very cute. I was really happy when I rolled her. Still keeping her as my leader.
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>>118704541
Can't wait for this guy to get released.
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>>118705113
Here anon lemme spoonfeed you, open up
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2880338
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>>118707940
Thanks anon I was getting hungry
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>>118704820
Gimme. Need em for Medusa and more later for Atlanta and Robin Hood I think.

Event pls gib imaginary around and hassans
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>>118707940
thank you
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Dead game.
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>>118708582
Dead Anon.
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>>118702580
You just have to complete the final stage. She's this events version of crystalized lore
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>118709521
>final stage is a boss rush of the best team in the game
>have to fight Fatalpulse and his monsters for a Lily tier Liz
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>>118702785
I want to go to an amusement park with them. It'd be funny to walk into Disneyland with a hundred or so really buff and half-naked black guys in skull masks.
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Every Astolfo until thread
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>>118709635
>can queue for everything and anything
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Every until thread Astolfo
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>>118709635
>you will never ride through the Tunnel of Love with Asako
Goddamn it all.
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>>118709693
>>118709794
>>118709560

Ass to fill, I must fill them all.
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>Halloween Liz
>possibly Santa Nero

what's up with these meme servants?
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>>118710409
>Santa Nero
Why Nero?
Just because she's red?
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>>118710547
https://youtu.be/efdN69QscAg
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>>118710547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZxChjukSlU
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>>118710409
I'd actually like that.

I'm glad that we got any Halloween event at all.
I hope it'll start next Friday.
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>>118710695
But where are the Hassans?
Will we not get them till L O N D O N?
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Will the next event give talon? I need 8 more and fuck farming since you can only get 1 after playing a whole day.
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>>118710824
Why the fuck do you think we would know?
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>>118710824
Just refill AP with quartz goyim
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>>118706820
>Halloween Liz
>Lancer with Caster animation
>2 Arts card instead of 1. 1 Quick card instead of 2.
>Skills are related to spooky skeleton and singing
>her NP guarantees a stun but deals shit damage like Rule Breaker.
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>>118710990
Make it 3 quicks or 2 qicks and a quick np and I'm sold
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Nice, two left to go.
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Will you be rolling Liz in the gacha? if it turns out that Halloween Liz is shit
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>>118711320
>not picking her as your free Servant
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>>118711395
Cake > Liz
better waifu too
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>>118711576
Cake isn't even the best waifu in Riders
Not even the best waifu in gold Riders
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>>118711576
I have both because i am not a faggot
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>>118711656
Does it physically hurt to have this shit taste in waifus?
It does, doesn't it?
Must be agonizing
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>>118711576
Collect all the waifus you fag. Even the guy ones
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So pretty much 4 months without Okeanos then?
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>>118711576
Fanart of Liz and Cake when
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>>118711750
I feel great fam, Martha is a qt
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>>118711856
Would that pairing be called Carrot Cake
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>>118711656
eh-HEM
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So how is St.George as a Taunt Tank?
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I should draw Karna x Liz
I dont take requests because I am a lazy fuck

>mfw hindus call karna a cunt for being that one blunt guy that tells it like it is
>shits on him for putting his loyalty before all else
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Carmilla is better than Liz in every way that matters.
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>>118709974
Every Astolfo until ass be filled
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>>118712182
Really tanky.
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>>118712182
Better than Benkei and Leonidas, worse than d'Eon.
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>>118712259
I actually agree
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>>118712259
But she is a titty monster with no tail.

>>118712328
How is Leo's nads? Does he need the Nero CE?
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>>118712182
Pretty decent. Also is your berserker interested with QQAAB Taunt guy? If yes, then he'll do more amazing.
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>>118712376
There're 3 CEs for tanks: Kotomine, Nero, Bath. Pick any.
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>>118709974
>>118712289
that's pretty gay
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Current team is:
Saber Alter with Kaleido
Support slot
Marie with Gandr
Arturia with Limit/Over Zero
Mashu with nothing
Cu with Divine Banquet

Alter seems to be fine, any recommendations for the others?
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>tfw Okeanos never
>tfw on the other hand DW is releasing increasingly generous events in a last ditch effort to get players to stay
Maybe they'll delay Okeanos all the way till spring and start handing out event Arturias to everybody.
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>>118712840
>start handing out event Arturias to everybody
I don't want or need another Saber though.
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>>118712894
>implying she has to be Saber class
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>>118712840
>more dragon fangs to farm
They better give those out too.
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>>118670892
Haha i was right
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>>118712960
>wanting more seibaface
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>>118713037
but you're wrong
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>>118713037
That's wrong though
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>>118713037
But you're not
It's a new unit, not a costume, idiot
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>>118713037
Stop being a dumb whore Nero.
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>>118712376
>But she is a titty monster with no tail.
thats exactly why Carmilla is better
Liz's design is too retarded to consider using her and should be burned on sight
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>>118713092
>>118713102
>>118713129
>>118713142
But OP said it's a costume. Guess i'll read the previous thread and this one
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>>118713212
>tittymonster

Nah. I prefer boobs over flat but tittymonsters are a no

>no tail
>wearing a cage
>not retarded
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>>118713293
>actually believing the OP
You brought this on yourself
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>>118713212
>Likes Vampires over Dragon girls
>Thinks he has any authority to tell what is better

Go read twilight you fag
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>>118709974
Asstolfo to fill
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>>118713212
Uhuh, because wearing a steel cage in combination with that gaudy red colored dress is so much better, am I right?
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>>118713343
Her tits are definitely big but aren't big enough to be considered a "tittymonster"

the cage is significantly less retarded than a dragon tail
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Hopefully the H.Liz can be farmed to level up the normal Liz NP
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>>118713872
You mean the other way around right?
Spooky witch>>>>ping pong balls and pigs
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>>118713872
I just want the event to give me more horseshoes.
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I can't stop thinking and looking at her. Is this love anons?

>>118713767
Why would you hate her tail? What's wrong with you?
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>>118713872
I thought she was a reward not a drop.
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any dailies with berserker shadows today?
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>>118714125
Read the FAQ you dumdum
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>>118713037
You were not, read again.
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>>118714240

aren't the shadow classes random but fixed in sunday dailies?
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I want to do lewd things to BooDicka
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>>118714240

meant to quote

>>118714178
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>>118714018
>Why would you hate her tail?
im not a fan of retarded looking things

>What's wrong with you?
unless not having a stupid fetish is considered wrong, then nothing
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>>118714328
>not Bootyca
One job
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>>118714328
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Why DW didn't whore Arturia and her clones?
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>>118714876
Reserved for Christmas.
I'm looking forward to it.
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Guess the future holiday events
Christmas - Nero
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>>118715000
Trps of truth
Check em
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>>118715000
Easter - Astolfo
Golden Week - Kid Gil
Valentines - Sakura
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If they are making alternate dresses as a whole new servant, does that mean Alter would get another dress someday?
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>>118715074
>Golden Week
>not GOLD

Come on, anon...
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>>118715242
We already had a GOLD event
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>>118715074
Valentines should be Casko.
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>>118714441
Sorry about your shit taste m8
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>>118715221
But Alter is an alternate dress for Saber.
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>>118715592
Casko is for shittaste day
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>>118715736
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>>118715592
>giving the celebration of love to evil fox
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>>118714441
She isn't even my fetish and I love her.

>>118715613
Best.
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>>118715613
sorry for your scat fetish m8, since you're obviously attracted to shit
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>>118715592
Valentine is for Euryale
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>>118715957
If she's so shit why is she getting another Servant while your waifu doesn't?
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>>118715957
Don't bully my waifu pls.
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>people arguing over Liz compared to Carmilla
You guys don't seriously think aspects of your waifu are shit right? You guys love all sides of her no matter how large her breasts are or whether she has a tail right?
I mean someone who claims Liz as their waifu but hates Liz when she's grown up should be shot, and vice versa for Carmilla.
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>190 posts
>65 posters
DEAD
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>>118716139
Kinda reminds me of archer trying to kill Shiro.
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will they increase the drop rate for certain servants for this event?
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>>118716139
I could never make a flat abomination my waifu
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>>118715362
and a Gilgamesh event too.

The best would be having both Gil and GOLD during Golden Week, though.
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>>118716139
I don't hate Carmillia but she's certainly not who I love. I consider her a part though but since she's a separate entity I kinda disregard her. Even Liz doesn't seem to like her much.
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Post your dream events

>Valentine event.
>At the beginning of the event you get to pick a servant from the current gacha, as an aim for the prize of the event.
>You have to beat a number of quests on the whale scale of hard. The ones that force you to use your command spells or even quartz to get a retry. Each one 40AP or so.
>If you manage to clear them all you get to an extra hard battle against the character you chose, with her/him with really high HP and ATK and a low NP cooldown. Also, they won't get any demerit from NP use (like if it's Jeanne she won't get stunned and so on).
>If you beat that, you get that servant.

The idea behind this would be "You want your waifu? well, work your damn hardest for it"
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>>118716391
Gil has two confirmed alt Servants while GOLD has none.
He's limited time though so they will bring him back eventually, might as well go full bling for Golden Week.
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>>118716101
>If she's so shit why is she getting another Servant while your waifu doesn't?
my waifu already has 3 versions and we're getting another eventually

>>118716104
sry
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>>118715074
>>118715592
>>118716043
Nah, Valentine is for Kiyohime.
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>>118716408
They have the Archer and Shirou dynamic.
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>>118716139
I prefer Carmilla but a won't deny that Liz is unbelievably cute.
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>>118716415
That's stupid. They just want money. Plus that's incredibly autistic for such a shitty game. Even hardcore waifufags dropped this game.
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>>118716315
sure, now you get spooked twice the rates
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>>118716408
Liz and Carmilla absolutely fucking despise each other. Like, you thought Archer wasn't fond of Shirou, you ain't seen shit.
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>>118716469
>Liz is shit but Arturia is great
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>>118716463
Actually Gil has three confirmed Servants.
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>>118716415
What if your waifu isn't in game and the girl in game you like the most has a level 5 NP?
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>>118716415
Sounds really good.
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>>118716667
>implying shes not
at the very least she doesnt have a retarded tail, horns and claws
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>>118716532
Kiyohime sure has some big hands
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Aside from hoping for Euryale to spawn and 3 knights ascension day, is there any other place to get archer pieces?
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There's no way she's gonna be as bad as Lily right?
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What Servant shows up the most on your friends list?
For me it's either Vlad or Emiya.
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>>118716884
>dissing horns and claws now
Can your taste be anymore shit?
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>>118716532
>Kiyohimes mad enhancement EX actually makes the MC insane and think that she's homicidal and out to get them when she is actually totally normal.
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>>118716415
Infinite Mooncell Automaton Labyrinthian Depths - Dive to the core of infinity

99 Wave Endless dungeon, starts at Wave 1 out of 99 every try. Every try costs 100 AP.

You get a continue or retreat prompt after every 5 waves. You get 10% health restored after every wave, you get 1 command spell after every 10 waves and you get fully healed after wave 25, 50 and 75. Every battle consists of 5 warm-up enemies and a boss enemy or servant as reinforcement after.

You get points for each battle completed, directly based around enemy level, type and wave count.

If you retreat via prompt or beat all 99 waves, you get your points. If you beat all 99 waves, you get an one-time special reward (servant, can otherwise only be bought 3 times with lots of points each)

Cost Limit is disabled for this dungeon. using Quartz to revive costs you 1/4 of your current points for each revive.

Enemy levels do not go up in a linear fashion but in bulk every 5 waves. It starts at around level 4 and tops out at level 70 enemies for 95-99

The difficulty is laid out so that with lvl 70 3*s you can get to around Wave 70-80, more if you plan really well and have upgraded skills and NPs

The shop will include CEs of previous events, ascension materials that start out very cheap, are available in unlimited quantity but go up in price with each purchase indefinitely.
It will also offer other stuff following a similar logic.

You can buy, for quartz, items that let you start at wave 25, 50 or 75
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>>118704541
Who is this semen demon?
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>>118717046
Gil and Attila
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>>118716681
You mean 4? Normal, Proto, shota and Caster?
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>>118717303
>needing 100ap to start
>ever having that much
Why?
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Good morning! Here's your daily dose of stickboy.
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>>118717434
It's to keep low level plebs out of events for real men.
>there are people in this thread who don't have 99 cost
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>>118717434
>not having 100 AP already
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>>118717434
Because looking at it, if you go through 20 waves alone that will be 100 enemies + 20 bosses
That is a lot of possible items
99 waves, for whales, would be 495 enemies + 99 bosses for 100 AP
Nothing else can possibly compete with that
Also stop being a low level shit already

>>118717538
Nobody has 99 cost.
Level 100 is 98 cost.
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>>118717538
But this hame sucks. I just play it for waifu.
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>>118717340
Charles Babbage. And if the seiyuu list is right, he's not been genderbent, since he's voiced by Tetsu Inada.
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>>118717620
I want Kohaku to rape me.
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>>118717667
It's clearly a whale only idea. And whale's are cancer.
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>>118717667
>he hasn't bought the level cap upgrade in the shop
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>>118717798
>The difficulty is laid out so that with lvl 70 3*s you can get to around Wave 70-80, more if you plan really well and have upgraded skills and NPs

Yeah
Whales only
Clearly.
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>>118716884
>liking bland
Kill yourself
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A heart is all i need
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>>118717947
fuck off you autistic degenerate
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>>118716469
>claims to have Saber as waifu
>not a single one is max ascended
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>>118717914
Why would you even want this game to be like that? That'd take far too long. It's like you guys think this game is about gameplay instead of rolls. You're way better off just playing anything else that has that already in it. This is just roll you're waifu and level her up.
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>>118717762
That isn't how rape works.
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>>118717982
Is the game being heartless to you?
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>>118718181
Please go and stay go you cancerous shit
The rolling is the absolute worst part of this game
The combat is the only redeeming thing about this.
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>>118718179
>tfw havent max acsended waifu
This game takes too long. And this recharge time is awful.
I bet most who ascend their waifu pay for it.
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>>118718129
Sorry you like no personality the character
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>>118718326
You weren't here when we literally had to wait 10 minutes for a single AP to recharge, were you?
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>>118718326
Just have no patience and diligence. This game's content is slower than its servant progress anyway, everyone rushing to max are just going to get sick of it sooner.
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>>118718283
What combat? How can you think this ganeplay is solud enough for some autistic hardcore survival mode?
I didn't praise the rolling either but that's the kind of game it is. Not what you want it to be.
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>>118718179
Because I only managed to get an account with both at the start of the 4 mil campaign
as much as I love them, I cant max them in just 11 days
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>>118718262
Not anymore
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>>118718129
Calm down Jerome
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>>118718262
What a heartful reply
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>>118718414
>10 minute for one AP

I kind of wish it stayed so I can do something else while waiting. Not that I mind the change.
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>>118718414
Oh no, but it's still bad. Good thing I have irl stuff to do. I just miss playing with my waifu in the meantime.

>>118718445
Yeah that's why I only have one level 2 ascended servant and only two above level 30. I got sick of it quick.
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>>118718446
If you think this combat isn't quite deep for a mobage then you're officially fucking nuts

How to pace your skills and NPs
Which enemies to focus on
When to use your master skills
When to intentionally stall the battle to build NP or cooldown skills
Which party members to bring, with which CEs, for which tactics and to counter the enemies, taking into account when you need your backups, when you get healed, when you retrieve command spells or get full healed.

Those are all things you can do in a survival mode
But of course you blind faggot can't see any of that
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>>118718575
>>118718446
>>118718181
go away cancer. I don't think even reddit accept your kind
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>>118716469
>The cuck king
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>>118718575
Why not do something else while waiting anyway?
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>>118718326
>Recharge time is awful
>The game takes too long

U wot m8. And after these last two events, maxing AT LEAST one Servant is a piece of cake. Already maxed Martha and I'm on the way to max EMIYA. Haven't spent not even one cent in this game.

And you weren't here at the beginning, before our king Gil halved the AP recharge time.
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