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Last thread: >>100697939
>>100978476
First for lawdog.
DEVIL SUMMONER
>>100978736
What a stupid meme.
Woah I came just in time for new thread
;_;7
https://twitter.com/GideonZhi/status/589125069080698881
I just finished DDS right now, credits still rolling.
9.5/10 story
10/10 characters
10/10 MC
10/10 atmosphere
3/10 dungeons (I just nearly spent 2 hours in that stupid ass house. They're insufferably long)
10/10 ending I won't sleep at night if I don't see how DDS2 starts
Gameplay was good but I need demon fusion/negotiating in my SMTs to feel complete
>>100979059
>9.5/10 story
But it barely had a story. The story starts in II.
>>100979059
I dont know why people pan at DDS 1&2 dungeons, they are pretty good and have enough gimmicks to be enjoyable.
smtg of all things should apreciate well made dungeons.
>>100979150
The setting in general is pretty good.
>>100979150
I love stories that keep me guessing a lot, slowly unraveling the world's mysteries. I should've said storytelling
Are dungeons in DDS2 as long and obnoxious?
>>100979267
My problem with dungeons are that I generally have a bad sense of orientation. As they are absolutely huge, they're still interesting and fun to go through them, but I can't deal with all of this and literally tons of random encounters. That's why I took 2 hours to finish a dungeon. It seems like I always take the wrong route
>>100979538
>2hours to finish a dungeon.
Isnt that usual in most smts? I mean im sure the dungeons of Strange Journey takes more to finish.
The thing i kinda dislike about DDS dungeons is that they are boring looking.
>>100979864
For me they looked alright-ish. I like Nocturne dungeons more, but DDS was atmospheric and forgot to mention this earlier but OST was 10/10 for me, especially in the last dungeon, as you went up music gradually got more energetic
>>100980141
Yeah Karma Tower music is awesome.
As for your DDS 2 question yes they are as long though the last dungeon is far more larger than Karma Tower and some shit gimmicks (Like a section that doesnt allows demon form).
>>100980345
Eh, I'll try to survive, everything else about the game I absolutely love, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem.
What kind of build should I get in DDS2 if y'all don't mind? I pretty much just fucked around with the build in 1 and it turned out to be shit. I pretty much killed the final boss with ma- skills and fire bombs
How the fuck do i save Keiskue.
>>100980714
Im not sure if the best but i have gone mag,str,vit on the game on my two normal runs and did okay.
Not sure about a good buld for hard.
>>100981024
Thanks. Any Mantras I should focus on?
>>100981276
The same as the last game: focus on the element the character is weak to in order to get defence skills (Both in battle and passive) for that element.
Also the AP earning Mantras, mp walk, Ap divide (When one party member devours an enemy this skills impart that exp to the rest of the party) and that Mantra that allows a party member to get experience even when not participating in battle)
>>100981569
Thanks a lot man
>>100981834
Shared Karma i think the last skill i talked is called.
>>100981980
Alright. I'm super excited now. I'll start playing it now. You're a great help, have a Yuzu
>>100982109>I actually like Yuzu
Thanks and no problem.
>>100982109
I wanna milk Yuzu for her yoohoo.
Dead thread
Post demons
>>100986395
>>100987151
>fedora
Get out!
>>100986395
>>100986395
Judgement has come
>>100988898
I was off by 10
>>100989029
/vg/ doesn't have dubs to my knowledge
>>100989087
I never noticed, wow
Should I try Maken X? It has Meguro in it
>>100990651
Sure, tell us how it is.
Just starting SMT IV. Any tips?
>>100992763
STR is useless because it only affects normal attacks. DEX is better because it affects gun attacks, gun skills, and phys skills to an extent.
Other than STR, any build is viable, go full luck
>>100992763
Try to get a Spriggan with Bufu. You won't regret it.
>LAW
It's ok to kill Gotou on SMT1? His dialogue remembered me a lawfag so I killed him.
>>100994767
>Gotou
>Wants to usher in a new demon era
>Law
ur fucking dumb
>>100994767
You are thorman's greatest ally.
Why can I kick my butt into completing Soul Hackers?
And no I don't think it's a bad game or anything. I just can't find the interest in me to go further.
I also have an unfinished Dark Spire cartridge laying around.
>>100996474
How far are you?
>>100996503
Latest digest is wherethey find the Krypto Chip and take it apart, and a pink insect flies out.
Hero is lv 46, and I don't remember how I did it, but I somehow have a bunch of demons in my party who are of a higher level than that.
>>100997098
Oh, I don't even remember that part exactly. Sounds like maybe halfway or two thirds in. You can take a break if you want do; don't force yourself to play.
Especially since the Amani Obelisk is coming up which many players give up on the game because of
>>100994767
If you want to follow the true Neutral Path, you must kill everyone.
Just got wiped out by Polaris' final form in Devil Survior 2. It's lame that now I have to grind out fusions for a phys-nulled party just to have a chance at beating him, or am I just a huge casualry?
>>101000653
It's okay anon, I grinded for 10 hours to bump my party up 20 levels in DeSu1 for Amanes Route my first time around
>>100979385
The final dungeon of DDS2 is absolutely huge but the rest are fairly short for the most part. The longest one aside from the final one would probably be the third-to-last one.
Final dungeon is also split into "layers", each with their own gimmick.
>>101000653
Are you the guy that cheesed Yamomo battle? If so, you are a huge casual.
>>101003038
Cheesed? I think that's someone else. For the Yamato battle, I just rushed in on him with Bunny with an Evil Flow boost and killed his Remiel. Then got lucky with Python when it used Megido two times because of the dual shadow ability, which killed his other demon, and then I had Fumi finish him off.
devil survivor is shit
SHIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>100978736
I don't get this meme.
>>101007545
Me neither
>>101007545
>>101007790
Law is hot.
>>101007883
It really isn't though.
>>101007883
>lawtists will defend this
>>101007883
*pushes u in the mud*
welcome to the world of the strong, faggot
>>101008381
*gets arrested*
Justice prevails in the world of law
>>101007883
More like, Law is not.
>>101007545
Neither does the guy who started it.
>>101010419
>SMTV
>2016
We will probably not get another main SMT in like 10 years.
>PS4/PC
It will be on Nintendo next handheld.
>Kaneko
He already ded. Its more likely Soejima will take care of designing new demons.
>>101010704
>>101010704
Is there a persona game that has similar mechanics of SMT4? Liked the game a lot and ended up buying overclocked because price cut in the eshop but so far don't really like it because the gameplay changed drastically. My fault for not researching before buying but for that purpose im asking the question.
>>101013272
Not Persona, but Nocturne has mechanics closest to IV as far as I can tell, makes sense since IV is its sequel and all.
>>101014219
I imagined it would be that way and im planning to eventually play nocturne but im more interested in trying persona right now.
>>101014432
Persona is okay. Keep in mind that in terms of gameplay none of them really play like SMT and P3/P4 play extremely similarly to each other.
Maybe try P1 or P2 because they have a bit of the SMT feel.
>>101016192
Oh, I see. How bad then, I was hoping they were similar.
Thanks.
>>101016301
Yeah. They're not bad games by any means (though P3/P4 are a bit overrated IMO) but if you go into them expecting them to play like SMT you'll probably be let down. Even at their closest, they're still distant from SMT.
>>101008381
>*pushes u in the mud*
>>101008381
>*gets arrested*
Oh shit, /smtg/ has really gone downhill.
>>101017535
Purge the weak shitposters!
>>100978854
How come they were carrying around Gore's tux anyway
>finally saw the April 1st trailer for SMTxFE or whatever it's called now
So nothing has changed, I take it?dead seriesdead generaldead kanekodead dogdead momdead friendsdead god
>>101021174
April hasn't ended yet, there's still a chance that the trailer's just an elaborate, extended April Fool's joke.
I mean, it came out on the 1st, for fuck sake.
>>101021268
How long are you going to keep deluding yourself?
Wake up and face reality!
>>101021268
yeah definitely, even the name eludes to it. it's called llusionary for goodness sake. it's probably just a carefully made trailer with all the parts people don't actually want to see.
>>101021691
NEVER!
>>101021174
THIS IS EVERYTHING YOU WANTED, NAKAJIMA!
honestly I'd care more about #FE if it was for a system I owned
even if it was actually a pure FE/SMT crossover I doubt I'd buy a wiiu for it so no loss there
What's Deviliser?
Jesus, I tried jumping into Persona 3 after my past experiences with SMT, and oh boy am I bored out of my mind.
Not only is the battle system boring and tedious, but the announcements and annoying music really bore me to hell. Jesus, I want to run around punching demons like Nocturne, not get my high-school edgelord tired so he can leave and go make friends all day.
>>101024286
Why not try Persona 1/2 then? P3/4 are worlds apart from the rest of MegaTen in almost all aspects while P1/2 are fairly similar. The only problem is the battle systems are somewhat clunky.
>>101024286
Yeah you should try P2. It throws you right into the action.
>>101023781
Nothing yet.
>>101010704
You lack the positive thinking we need here
Wake up.
>>101037465
I was there for the drawthread too
Is #FE gonna be a SRPG afterall? I'm too dumb to figure out from the trailer
>>101037873
No one can figure anything out from the trailer.
>>101037873
Of course not. Thats a battle system resembling Persona in every aspect with some new touchs.
#FE is a Persona skinned FE.
>>101037873
Going by the trailer I'm gonna say no.
Which MegaTen would you play board games with?
>>101038291
Combat looks nothing like Persona or any Atlus title inb4 Atlus invented turn based combat
>>101039567
Looks as flashy as a Persona game (More likely to contrast with P5)
>>101039598
Hardly enough to call it Persona anything, and I doubt P5 had anything to do with it considering it'll very likely be just as "flashy" as the previous titles.
>>101037873
It looks like it plays like Grandia or something, where your turns are on a timeline and you can interrupt enemy actions
>>101044642
Oh. I'm playing Child of Light. That's pretty similar. Not a bad combat system
>Atlus listing for E3 includes " RPG > Playstation"
So this is clearly P5 since its multiplat - but what about the other two RPG console listings? There's a seperate one for the PS3 and the PS4.
Does this mean they might possibly be workong on a console SMT game + something else now that P5 justified the cost of making HD models for the demons and gave them assets to recycle?
I want to play IMAGINE so bad but I can only read extremely basic Japanese;_;
>>101044989
Probably some ATLUS USA localized games.
All right I just started this game not to long ago. My friend told me he pretty much fucked up and enslaved everyone to demons but I digress
I was doing my first challenge quests and the tiger raped me. I grinded a bit and I did it
Now I am looking for navarre. I think I found him but his naga raped me as well. Is this game just Grind fight, Grind fight?
>>101045482
Read more.
>>101024286
My problem, with what I've played of P3, is that the two sections feel poorly balanced in terms of time spent.
>>101045803
Your friend is a chaosfag and no, just fuse your demons. It gets really easy after a certain point in the game.
Remember to answer all questions honestly.
>>101046068
Well all right. I'll fuse and hopefully kick this dick head and his naga to the ground
>>101044943
Is it good? I'm thinking of grabbing it for Vita, but I've got $3 to my name right now.
>>101044989
>console SMT
The next time you see those models, it'll be in some P5 dancing game, and then eventually P6, P7, P8 or however long they think they can keep reusing them.
>>101046436
Why are you always so fucking negative?
>>101046935
You got me, it's me Shadow Maya
>>101046935
Why would you ever think something nice is going to happen?
>>101046935
Because its true? Not that same anon, im the other negative anon.
Im tired of people implying that ATLUS didnt became massive Persona whores and pulling the "muh assets" argument like it made any fucking difference.
Even with those assets ATLUS will go the cheaper route (Handhelds) with the non-Persona Team games because they dont give a fuck about anything other than Persona.
Its almost like you enjoy seeing people in despair when they hope for the old ATLUS to come back but they arent. Now enjoy the console Persona galore because thats what we will get.
>>101046935
We can never have nice things.
>>101046181
It's very atmospheric. The story-telling is basically poetry. Combat system is turned base with that timeline thingy that lets you interrupt enemies.
Pretty cool game, you should probably get it
>>101048819
When I get paid this month, I'll try to snag it.
I hate this nigger.
I like that the game makes me fucking scared as shit when running from him though
>>101051156
that guy is a genuine motherfucker
>>101023781
The game Kaneko has been working on.
>>101051156
>I like that the game makes me fucking scared as shit when running from him though
>tfw DDS2 was more scary than most "horror" games these days
>>101051156
Killing him was pretty satisfying
>>101056129
If only. I didn't know I should've brought void foce
>>101052149
That barking sound right before the boss fight is creepy as fuck
>>101051156
For a game without demon fusion DDS sure was better than expected.
Woah, it was satisfying
>>101057035
It really is. I remember when I first started DDS1 I dropped it after the first 2 dungeons. But as you go farther, it only gets better. Great game
>>101057517
The atmospheric music carried the game almost singlehandedly. Without it it would've been a chore to play through hours upon hours.
A game about cannibalistic demons literally made tear a little. Good job, Atlus
>>101057642
Yeah, it's still the atmosphere that makes this game so great. I also really like the characters and the story. The whole setting is great too. It's a 10/10 atmosphere. Dungeons may still be too long and encounters too high for me but the game is completely enjoyable.
>>101058186
>honest child
That was a lie wasn't it? Didn't he say something like don't be a bitch and toughen up?
>>101058319
He did say something different iirc.
>>101058319
It was something like your post. Not sure how he said it exactly
I'm so happy SMT doesn't have character creation. I actually ahte it when RPGs do that, instead of giving a personality to MC
>>101060408
>SMT
>MCs
>Personality
Does not compute.
>>101060408
But, usually SMT protagonists are meant to be you.
>>101060408
I wish SMT had a character creation. It would make self inserting much easier.
>>101060558
>>101060580
It still makes the protagonist look and feel like a part of the game a lot more than making your waifu or something like "Hey mom, this is me in the gaem xD".
Somehow SMT manages to make all its MCs cool
>>101060746
I just wish there was an option to play with a FeMC.
>Not wanting to be the girl
>>101060894
>Somehow SMT manages to make all its MCs cool
I agree with you on that.
>>101060997
Fuck off, tranny
>>101060894
While i agree that MCs designs are cool i see no problem with character creation because you could just stick to the default.
Just look at ME were you can customize Shepard but many still recognize him in as the default.
Though that wouldnt fly on Persona but for main SMT? Well SMT IV kind of sets a precedent.
>>101060997
Maybe the next SMT?
>>101060997
I'm still excited to see how Seraph comes to the game. Isitvoiced?
>>101061205
Seraph is voicedas Sera when he/she talks during cutscenesbut in battleShe/he doesnt have any dialogueswhich i guess impliesSera is the one talking while Serph is the one fighting
>>101061503
Holy shit I'm excited. This seems like such a great twist to the game
>>101061629
Can't tell if sarcasm or not.
>>101061629
weakness: none
>>101061685
Why would that be bad? I really like the story of DDS. I'm not sarcastic
>>101061629
Wait till you get to know more about Jenna.Pic not related though
>>101061829
You scared me for a moment there.
>>101061129
>"I don't want to look at a nice proportioned female body, I prefer looking at male asses!"
Wow.
>>101062251
SMT is for self-inserting.
>>101062251
>I wish to be the little girl
>>101062251
>Wanting your virtual self to be a girl.
>>101062381
How much of a faggot do you have to be to not want to insert your-self in some nice female body?
>>101062437
Wrong place to complain about that, buddy.
>>101062251
If they ever make a female protag, they're going to make her to appeal to the female audience that's starting to dominate the Japanese fanbase. Meaning she won't be fanservice. And you will have male sidekicks that are maximum homo for each other.
But that last bit is also why they'll never bother making a female protag. You don't have to to pull in both audiences, in Japan at least. Only western females push for gender choice in video games where it isn't relevant.
>>101062715
What the fuck is going on with your post? I wanted to laugh at you for talking out of your ass and then you make another paragraph completely nullifying what you said before. How should I respond to this?
>>101062970
Is your reading comprehension that poor?
>>101062970
you can't prove them wrong
>>101062251
>looking at the protag's ass instead of paying attention to where you're supposed to go
Projecting weirdo
>>101063340
>If they ever make a female protag, they're going to make her to appeal to the female audience that's starting to dominate the Japanese fanbase.
This is a retarded and baseless claim.
>But that last bit is also why they'll never bother making a female protag.
This is just ridiculous and proves that he only has played like 2 games of the franchise.
That guy is just ridiculous, dude.
>>101063836
>This is a retarded and baseless claim.
Have you ever wondered why like 99% of SMT fanart these days is drawn by girls?
>>101064075
Have you ever played a DeSu?
Those games are 99% appeal to female audience. Surprisingly there's no female MC.
>>101062568
Oh, I get it, you're just a homo.
>>101064523
What does that have to do with my post?
>>101064606
Are you retarded? Female audience in Japan wants Bunnies.
If you're like this, I could also ask what SMT fanart had to do with my post but let's leave it at that.
>>101064738
You're just proving me right. They could make a female MC, and if they ever bothered going through the effort they'd do it for a female market, see the P3P experiment. But they realise they don't have to. Japanese female audience is perfectly fine with male protags, hence why they'd never bother making a female protag.
>>101065050
>and if they ever bothered going through the effort they'd do it for a female market, see the P3P experiment
This statement is the one I'm having a problem with. Was EP made for the female market? Nine? Imagine? Devil Children?
Yes, pretty sure the last two at least appeal somewhat to both but as you can see making a female MC doesn't inherently come with a great appeal to the female audience.
>>101065670
And that's why they don't bother to keep making them and why the next SMT title won't have one. There's no point.
>>101065817
You're hopeless.
>>101066037
I'm really starting to think you have a reading comprehension problem.
>>101065670
Devil Children was made with both versions having a different protag in mind.
And even then there was only one female amongst the five.
>Mention wanting to play as a grill
>Thread takes a nosedive
You guys really are afraid of fujos, huh?
>>101065670
>Nine? Imagine? Devil Children?
the female protagonists in these certainly arent made for the male gaze. they aim for wide appeal when they attempt it then don't do it again when they see it doesn't matter to girls.
>>101066378
>>101066483
You should read the discussion because I sure as hell didn't claim that female MCs are for the male gaze.
I was just arguing against
>If they ever make a female protag, they're going to make her to appeal to the female audience that's starting to dominate the Japanese fanbase.
>>101066382
They aren't even afraid of fujos because those are pretty content with Devil Survivor.
>>101066764
Someone wanted a female protag supposedly so they could stare at a hot female ass all day. Then it was argued that if they made a female protag they wouldn't be designed with male appeal in mind so there's no point wanting it for that.
>>101066856
>implying fujos are humanAlso please stop bullying non natives.
>>101067075
You're really making no sense whatsoever.
>>101066382
No, fujos are just whiners.
>>101068985
Where are the fujos?
>>101069120
Here or tumblr, probably. Maybe in Nippon, too.
>>101061772
>surprise transsexuality is a good twist
I cannot describe how I felt when they did this to my poor silent hero.
>>101068985
What do they whine about?
>>101069429
I dunno, probably about shipping and boys and stuff. Do I look like an expert on degenerate women?
>>101070408
How do you know that they whine so much then?
SMT x Madoka
>>101070565
Because any time we discuss them somebody takes offense.
>>101070940
Why do you discuss them?
>>101070893
Break Record
>>101071035
I don't know faggot, ask somebody else.
>>101071354
Why?
>>101071438
Because I didn't start talking about it? Why don't you go bother Pascal the Dog with your questions.
SMT x JoJo when
>>101071924
But you were the one who claims to know a thing or too about fujos.
>>101062381
>girls don't play rpgs
>>101072090
I know how to give'em the dick, that's for sure.
>>101071998
Persona 1
>>101072208
The ones that play SMT don't care about female MCs.
If there ends up a malemc and femc in SMTV, none of us would actually care as long as it is still SMT (and not some persona bullshit).
Just sort of fear SMT taking the turn towards anything persona related, sort of like DeSu2 with fujo & etc pandering.
ported from /v/ thread
http://strawpoll.me/4177877
>>101074276
There's no point in gender choice for a silent protagonist. Adding a female MC isn't fujo pandering either. They want MCs like Flynn.
>>101074276
Yeah, probably. Except all the demons would try to rape you or something.
>>101074618
Neither.
>>101074618
Of those, Nocturne, but >>101074857 is right.
>>101074857
>>101074998
What games do you like better than those two?
>>101075141IV, also DDS.
>>101075281
yeah those would have been options if the thread wasn't started as a nocturne/SJ debate
>>101075141
Devil Summoner 1
>>101075826
I want to play the Raidou games once I finish SJ, should I start with DeSum 1?
>>101075941
You don't even know what DS1 is.
>>101075941
>Raidou
>Debisama 1
Nani
>>101076118
>>101076161
oh damn shows how much I know
>>101076161
Aren't they asking if they should play it before Raidou?
Holy shit guys. Dis gon b fun
>>101076365
KEEP YOUR FINGER ON THAT TRIGGER ROOKIE, OR BE PROSECUTEDED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE JAM
>>101076365
I need it.
>>101077484
It's a minigame in DDS2. pretty fun
>>101076365
I kinda wish they'd make it it's own standalone game or something.
>>101078084
I literally made a specific save just to play this shit a lot after I finish the game itself.
>>101078362
Hey man, just letting you know that you forgot to drop the name. There's no reason to have it up here.
>>101078362
Get this lewd shit outta here
>>101078637
Hey, thanks. I was replying in [s4s]. I forgot to take it off
>>101078784
Cancer.
>>101078784
Thanks for taking it off, m8.
>>101078784
holy hell people actually post on that thing, I thought it was an automated shitpost generator
>>101079071
It sort of is. I check out their OC albums when I get bored.They're shit
>>101074698
Unless a character is customizable, like an MMO or whatever, I don't care which gender they are.
>>101076309
YEAH GET REKT FAGGOT
DS isn't in English, so yeah. You could play Soul Hackers first, but I dunno how much connection the games have.
>>101079589
Am I really going to be missing out on much by skipping to Raidou vs King Abaddon?
>>101080048
No.
>>101084184
What a poignant bump, anon-dono
>>101084270
I don't know what dono means. You might say I "dono", ha ha.
>>101085420
Oh, you a funny guy aren't you
>>101085420
>>101069337
>not wanting to become one perfect being with your waifu
Its a thing in Hinduism and Jainism, just look at Ardhanarishvara. Seraph has achieved perfect unity between male and female and thus become complete.
What's a good build for Kyuuyaku?
I'm getting my shit kicked in by multiple demon encounters since heroine can't cast offensive magic worth shit and hero is limited to a crappy attack
>>101089969
Just post your stat screens and where you currently are.
hate how we're so slow
>>101094652
fuse with persona general again y/n
Or should we try again with /feg/
>>101094812
Just let it be.
>>101094812
The last time SMT fused with something didnt go well.
>>101094812
Why would you want that?
>>101051967
Is that confirmed?
>>101094812
We should have a three way fusion into the most beautiful of Slimes.
I want a SMT game with DDS 3D battles and voice acting and SMT4's art style.
>>101097418
I want a SMT that's basically Devil Survivor's system merged with the Press Turn system with DDS 3D battles and voice acting. I'm sorry, but Kaneko is the superior artist, character, and demon designer.
>>101097418
I want a sequel of Giten on PC with P5 tier graphics.
>>101097809
Doi is pretty similar to Kaneko human wise. And Doi didn't design the demons.
>>101097418
*deep breath*
I'd be totally okay with SMTV being on a handheld.
>>101098570
I hope you're sitting there laughing your ass off right now because you think it's funny to shitpost and you actually think it's acceptable to type like that here.
>>101098570
I'm not
>>101098864
Don't think it's acceptable, I meant.
>>101098570
Same here and honestly thats where SMTV will go: to the next big handheld. By that time Handhelds will probably be PS3 tier graphics wise.
>>101098570
I would prefer it to be on a handheld so I don't have to spring for a console. I'm not made of money after all.
>Asura Roga spam until all but one party member is enraged
how the fuck am I supposed to counter that
>>101099915
He uses it every four turns IIRC. Just defend.
