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Its time for another comfy New Vegas thread.
take this shit back to /vg/
>>345481460
bump
>>345481460
just what I needed
>fucking around camp golf
>talk to one of the veteran rangers
>he's got a ghoul voice
>talk to another
>same thing
>kill one of them and strip them of his armor
>he's a fucking ghoul
I didn't know they could serve
>Jew Gayness
Doesn't deserve to be called a Fallout game
>>345483068
>bethfag "knows" what a fallout game is
kek
>>345483068
>where else do you think the radiation in the water goes?
I'm no scientist, but I don't think it works that way
>>345483068
>Not posting the complete one where that poster get BTFO
>>345481460
New Vegas is never comfy when that big purple tranny freak is walking around grunting.
>>345484403
I've got it
>>345484858
>Purple
>>345482808
NCR isn't raysis
>With Boone in the repconn test site
>It always creeps me out and my heart beats faster than it should occasionally
>Boones killing shit while I'm looking for the basement
>Find the door and see Boone running faster than I can identify him and nearly blow his head off
Fucking Boone
>>345485153
In camp searchlight, if you talk to the ncr soldier who survived the radiation bomb, you can convince him to go back to unradiated ncr squad and they will kill him.
>>345483068
Half of those excuses just make the Enclave sound like the biggest bunch of morons, which is bad writing.
>>345485381
i thought the ncr had ghoul conscripts
>>345483068
>good thing these were patched, right?
Except they basically call you a pussy bitch for making a completely logical decision.
>>345481460
>there are people on this website who never made a UNARMED run
>>345484910
Reminder, the Enclaved USED THE FRONT DOOR
>>345485381
>In camp searchlight, if you talk to the ncr soldier who survived the radiation bomb, you can convince him to go back to unradiated ncr squad and they will kill him.
The Searchlight is overrun by ferals though.
>>345481460
Arcade's legs hurt me every time this picture is posted
>>345485709
this dude isn't a feral, and there's no indication that he will turn into one
>>345484858
She's blue just like your balls.
>>345485731
I think they hurt him more
>>345485790
>this dude isn't a feral, and there's no indication that he will turn into one
Their camp is right beside a giant nest of feral ghouls. It's creepy as fuck and they have to keep a watch out all the time for flesh eating freaks. It's understandable that they'd have less trigger control around ghouls than a trooper somewhere else.
>>345485974
the thing is, if you talk to them beforehand and explain that the dude is ghoulified but not dangerous, they refuse to take him in
don't mind me, just being the broest of bros among the troopers
House is worst choice. Doesn't even make sense to choose him. He is not fit to lead.
>>345486853
>He doesn't want to gamble on the moon
Laughingsecuritrons.jpg
>>345486853
he doesn't want to 'lead'. he just wants to do his technology stuff without faggots getting in his way. he's one of the best choices, although I've never allied with him
>>345486931
>He's stuck on old world ideas, planning for a far off future instead of fixing the now
House is definitely not the choice for altruistic people
![tumblr_m9h5gcz9Ye1r6zllio1_500.jpg.2a628989d77873f5a3beac786efeeab4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YDnPuPU.jpg "tumblr m9h5gcz9Ye1r6zllio1 500 .2a628989d77873f5a3beac786efeeab4[1]")
>>345481460
I dare any of you motherfuckers to tell me you wouldn't fuck Arcade
YOU WOULD ALL FUCK ARCADE
>>345488108
>House is definitely not the choice for altruistic people
none of the alliances are desu. ncr will definitely not be able to fix Mojave's problems. it's up to the courier to help communities throughout the wasteland
>>345488357
>I dare any of you motherfuckers to tell me you wouldn't fuck Arcade
you know I won't becauseit's a sin to tell a lie
>>345488370
Both NCR and Legion can at least provide stability to the entire Mojave and not just New Vegas
>>345486582
He's alright
>>345488645
Legion's aim is to destroy the ncr altogether, which means no stability until one of the sides is gone
>>345486156
Because they'd all developed an intense mistrust of ghouls for obvious reasons!
>>345488938
Did you /v/?
give me some ideas for a new challenge mates. i want a comfy playthrough.
>>345488998
couldn't bring myself to it. not necessarily out of disgust(okay, that might have been a factor as well), it just didn't seem right you know? she was this smart ghoulette shooting wise shit at you at the fort and now you're gonna fuck her? naw
>>345489502
You have to play with at least 1 limb crippled at a time.
>>345489750
you can't set S.P.E.C.I.A.L stats to zero, I think.
>>345490358
1 is close enough
>>345490358
you were saying?
>>345481460
>want to reinstall New Vegas
>get to Benny
>deal with him
>lose complete interest in the game
why does this happen to me? the 2nd half of the game is where things become utterly boring to me
is like the main plot ends there and they jam something completely different for the 2nd half
>>345490646
it's just time to lay off the main quest for a while and just fuck aroudn the Mojave. just enjoy the world andlet go
>>345490646
Most people feel the opposite. The beginnings boring for most because it's just a goose chase around the mojave
>>345489750
Thanks to the infinite wisdom of bethesda's programmers 0 perception results in literally infinite perception though
>>345490646
>>345491207
yea, but to me the feeling of "hey, i wanna track this asshole that shot me in the head"
the only motivation that i can find within the 2nd half is helping House, wich is somehow still connected to the main plot (or at least it is the one that feels like a follow up), since the Platinum Chip was his and he actually has big plans for the Mojave
Also, the fact that they have said this is the canon ending kinda killed my interest in the others
>>345491534
I meant to say
>yea, but to me the feeling of "hey, i wanna track this asshole that shot me in the head" is better than "hey, wanna take over the wasteland?" because of how it is presented to you by Yes Man when you meet him
>>345491534
House isn't canon. There is no canon. Don't listen to the bullshit some anons will tell you. Make your own motivation, roleplay, I don't know. I don't know why you want to do a fetch quest.
>>345491628
You can join the other factions. Maybe RPGs aren't the genre for you.
>>345491937
>>345491628
I meant fallout isn't the game for you
>>345481460
Does you accuracy with a weapon get better if you continue to put points into that weapon skill after you already reached the required amount of skill to use it effectively? For example, am I more accurate with the hunting rifle, which requires a guns skill of 50, if I have 100 guns skill than I was when I had 50 guns skill?
>>345491851
Is not what's in the quest to me (Otherwise i would never bother with the Legion since i think it has the worst quests in the game) is more of my motivations to do so
House is allways my choice because of the implications of helping this man that has thrived and basicly planned for years how to realize his dream. I find that appealing to me
>>345491937
>>345492035
Don't get me wrong, i love the FO franchise, maybe i don't know how to properly roleplay?
I know it sounds kind of stupid, but am i supposed to pretend i'm the character or pretend my character to be someone else and adjust the choices to his liking?
I ask because i had a friend who introduced me to a lot of RPG shit and i'm still confused on how it works. Sorry if it sounds dumb as shit
>>345492438
You don't necessarily have to pretend. You could try and challenge yourself like
>>345489696
>>345489750
For shits and giggles or make a character with a certain them like cyborg cowboy (only uses dynamite, pistols and shotguns) or try a retard run.
>>345492404
You need enough strength and Percepition too
>>345492438
if you have to ask how to roleplay there's no point
it's just being an autist and playing pretend
>>345493437
>>345492438
Oh yeah this too. I guess you're not autistic enough
>>345493248
Perception affect normal accuracy? I thought it only affected vats.
>>345493248
>>345493783
perception only affects the range enemies appear on your radar, it's a usless stat in new vegas, just up your guns skill
>>345493783
I don't know. I thought it did
>>345483068
>6 posters
>>345482808
They're ageless. Plenty of time to soak up exp.
>>345493982
Perception has one use, if you have 6 you can get this one perk that improves crits.
generals belong on /vg/
>>345495672
K...keep me posted
>>345489660
Oh I see.
You didn't want to fuck her stupid, big boy? Mighty kind of you.
>>345495672
>>345495767
anyone ever thought of taking the general back from the fo4 wafiu posters?
What's your favorite non-faction (no ranger, kings, enclave) attire /v/
>>345496481
No. That's retarded. It will only make more shitposting and make these threads worse
>in the middle of Far Harbor DLC
>quest log updates
well, i slowly see why people really really hate this game.
made me want to replay New Vegas, but it's not working, so i guess i'm stuck with fallout 4
>>345482808
There's an entire Ranger Station (Echo, IIRC) near Searchlight staffed almost entirely by ghouls. They're pretty goddamn durable, when you think about it.
>>345496594
T-51b Power Armor, best accessory for it is a Gatling Laser.
>>345497683
I'm sorry
>>345498262
Why'd they hate the guy at searchlight then?
>>345485615
I took Unarmed on a recent run, though it wasn't a tag, if only to get the Fist of Rawr.
>>345498563
Which guy, Edwards? They just assumed he was feral.
>>345498563
judging by their clothing the rangers at that station are desert rangers, so they aren't really a part of the NCR, they just fight alongside their elite troops.
>shut off the sink's personalities
>they still have slides when I finish the DLC
>they still cheer when I enter the sink after the DLC
>>345498803
Yeah
>>345498845
What were Desert Rangers before the NCR?
>Fallout 3
>MUH WATER
>Fallout 4
>can get infinite supply of clean water in the first 5 mins of the game
>>345498915
>Shut off the sink personalities
Why
>>345498915
The Sink wanted a proper celebration for you, so he turned them all back onand then immediately back off.
>>345496594
>2016
>there's still no unisex outfit mod that separates the male/female variants
>>345499002
No shit. 3 is lore rape.
>>345499040
>to to heat up some fists
>with personalities on, everything has dialog you have to go through any time you want something
>with personalities off, you go straight to selection
I want to play NV again but I've been kinda spoiled by how great Fallout 4 looks.
I mean, it certainly doesn't look next gen but it's still miles better than literal oblivion tier faces and assets
>>345499326
You can get around most everything but animation and some shitty models (notably terrain features) with mods. NVR and FCO both do a good job of fixing the faces and there are plenty of texture packs. New Vegas definitely does gunporn 1000x better than Fo4.
I really hated how you were painted as the good guy throughout this DLC even if you killed the think tank
>Tell me how this isn't the best option for the mojave, head canon or no. Pro tip: you can't
Ave, true to Caesar.
>>345499084
Why would you want that?
>>345499740
Karma system is fucked in NV m8. Even if you're a murdering, stealing, etc. scum-fuck, you'll still end up being slightly good or neutral.
>>345499815
>Caesar dies
gg ez
>>345499740
The think tank aren't really good guys. They were going to experiment on the rest of the wasteland.
>>345499823
>Why would you want that?
see>>345496594
>can't wear the heavy padded outfit on women
>can't wear the long coat outfit on men
>>345499928
>Implying the courier didn't have the means to walk a mile and press E to grab the parts to save his life. Literally easiest quest in the game
wew profligate. that's the best ya got?
>>345499815
>>Tell me how this isn't the best option for the mojave
You or your loved ones are enslaved. Eventually >>345499928
>>345499914
That's why the faction system is more important than karma.
>>345499740
by "help others", they mean taking protonic axes to the side of peoples heads
>>345499914
>>345499954
>>345500047
I think you missed the point
>all the slides paint you as the good guy
>they tell stories of how you were the hero of the wastes, helping people with the technologies from the dome
>you the player have no way to make it say otherwise, you are forced to be the hero
>becomming a BoS member
Welp, that was underwhelming.
>>345499986
Oh, no, I mean at any point. There's no way Caesar can conquer the NCR in his lifetime, meaning that unless a worthy, ideological compatible successor emerges (which it won't, since the Legion doesn't produce those kinds of people), his empire will collapse before he obtains the synthesis that is the Legion's one redeeming quality.
>>345500025
Everyone eventually dies. If caesar conquers new vegas before that happens, it literally won't matter. He'll have a groomed successor by then, such as vulpes or lucius.
Also
>Implying loved ones
Only two i gave a damn about were ED-E and Lily. Which dying would be a blessing to both of them.
I like all the 3D Fallout games.
>>345496594
Desert Ranger
Best Ranger
>>345500185
He wouldn't need to conquer NCR in his lifetime. Just new vegas. Which he can/does. Vulpes, Lucius are acceptable heirs or even Ulysses/courier if we're delving into what ifs
>>345500185
the courier.
>>345481460
This is awesome fanart but that Boone is way too buff.
>>345500291
No, he needs the NCR. New Vegas does not provide him the civilian population he desperately desires. Neither Vulpes of Lucius demonstrate the kind of ambition and vision Caesar does. They are not the inspiring, audacious leaders necessary to craft the sort of state Caesar wants.
Anybody join in on /v/ plays NV this past weekend? I had to miss it and trying to go through the archive on phone is a pain in the ass.
>>345500163
What karma did you have?
>>345500593
Nah. The first one was interesting but the second one was boring because everyone just wanted to kill shit
>>345498952
They were Desert Rangers. NCR had their own rangers, but the Desert Rangers were kicking around in Nevada/Arizona. They ended up joining up with the NCR because of Caesar.
>/v/ is full of unironic Legion apologists
Can't wait til it's made canon way down the line that the NCR stomped them out for good. They're more or less Children of Atom in a different coat of paint. Only instead of radiation they idolize Caesar and as soon as he dies, it's over. All of this "successor" talk is laughable.
>>345501008
>implying House or independent aren't canon
I'd hope for House, if only because a merciless technocratic city state is more interesting than a bunch of independent, loosely associated townships.
>>345501008
>/v is one person
At least with the legion you wouldn't have rampant corruption and raiders raping your farmlands. NCR are the ultimate cucks. They do everything the worse.
House/yes man/legion>>>>>>>>>>>NCR
Does anyone have a fallout NV torrent?
>>345501202
>/v is one person
You sure jumped to that meme quick when I never implied such thing. Typical of a Legion apologist, I guess.
>>345501168
Nah. The courier freeing and uniting the mojave wasteland would be more interesting than House.
>>345501008
Bethesda might even retarded enough to do this.
A better solution would be Legion fucking the NCR and then dissolve into chaos once Caesar dies. No hope. Mojave remains fucked.
>>345501683
There's no unity, though, and they weren't exactly "not free" to begin with. They just turn into a bunch of autonomous little towns if you go independent.
>>345481891
FPBP
>>345501791
I guess it would end up like the towns in the original fallout.
>>345500890
Yeah, it boiled down to that. Jannies deleted it and never recovered, never get to see Assfaggot again.
>>345481891
I'm sure if you post this one last time in the next thread, there will be no more New Vegas threads in /v/.
>>345501872
>Samefagging your own post from 3 hours ago
>>345501946
I saw assfaggot yesterday I'm pretty sure. He said he was going to give it another go and I think I saw one today early morning
>>345501627
Lol, I'm the only "legion apologist" ITT. You were indirectly replying to me, because you didn't want to reply to my post (because of the "you" meme, so who's memeing here?)
>>345500194
>>Implying loved ones
I mean, hypothetically, if you were living as any random person in the Mojave, there's a chance that you yourself or someone you care for will have their life or liberty compromised.
The fact is, when one chooses the Legion over NCR, they intend for some folks, necessarily, to face the extremes of suffering against their will so that the majority won't have to deal with the inconvenience of taxes or run the risk of being attacked by raiders (which they'd have a hell of a better chance against than Caesar's government, should they choose to resist)
The Legion is pragmatic and glorious, no doubt -- more exciting than the Republic and probably better adapted to the Wasteland (at least in the short term), but undeniably savage -- building a better future on the backs of human sacrifices.
>>345501332
Buy the game Jamal
>>345502217
I bet you use the word cuck too.
>>345501332
>torrenting in current year
Look at least for some OCH if you really have to pirate.
>>345501332
Probably.
>>345502302
>>345502342
>>345502403
I actually just need the DLC. I own the game just not the DLC.
>>345502317
Keep projecting. everyone uses cuck inappropriately. It's the new meme insult. Old one was shit lord
>>345502494
I don't, actually. I think it's just weird.
>>345502217
>You were indirectly replying to me, because you didn't want to reply to my post (because of the "you" meme, so who's memeing here?)
What the fuck are you talking about? I replied directly to (You).
>>345502263
So it's either the greater good, or misery loves company? If I'm gonna get my life fucked over by the NCR, I want everyone to experience the same thing because that's fairness apparently.
Sorry the only real sacrifices legion citizens make is the odd beheading here and there when they piss off a legionary. Every other quality of life is granted without asking:food,water,holistic medicine, safety)
>getting angry over what factions other people chose in a video game
Take a moment to reflect this.
>>345502608
If you weren't the guy that made this>>345501008
Why the fuck would you reply to me?
>>345502753
You're right. We're arguing ideologies in a fantasy world. It's still fun and relevant though. People do the exact same thing with all forms of media though. Non-fiction and fiction
>>345502263
>Lanius' helmet and sword can be looted
>but you can't keep it because the game doesn't continue after the final quest
>not even DLC adds something so simple
>people defend this degradation because "muh obsidian!"
>>345502809
I made that post after just skimming the thread. At a glance I saw plenty of discussion about the viability of the Legion here and didn't assume it was just one guy samefagging.
But if you're really the only Legion apologist ITT then maybe I can rest easy.
>>345502753
It's more productive than getting angry over what presidential candidate other people choose in real life.
>>345503007
Play LR. You get lanius armor and blade of the west
>>345503080
No, you get replicas
Does it matter in what order I play the DLCs? Already done with Dead Money.
>>345503015
I am. Legionfagging is usually one person or one person pretending to be many (we are legion, get it? Ha ha). I'm the former this time
Most people believe house or yes man is the absolute best.
>>345503163
DM-OWB-HH-LR
Worked for me
>>345503007
>>not even DLC adds something so simple
It does though.
It would be nice to continue playing after the battle for the dam has been decided, but I imagine it would have been too goddamn expensive and time-consuming to rebuild -- not just one, but several -- "after" mojaves that would make sense based on what the courier has decided up to that point.
>>345483068
>expecting bethdrones to know what a good game is in the first place
>>345503305
>It does though.
No it doesn't, the game still ends after you beat final the last quest
>but I imagine it would have been too goddamn expensive and time-consuming to rebuild -- not just one, but several -- "after" mojaves
They didn't even have to do that, just place the player back in the mojave with the quest completed, simple as that.
Maybe swap NPCs who are stationed around the dam.
>>345502130
Fug I had things to do. I was dissapointed when he killed that gud boi mahsovabish
>>345503207
I was projecting because the two friends of mine that also play New Vegas are Legionfags that despise the NCR for reasons I don't quite understand and I'm the only NCR nerd among us.
I just think NCR needs a shift in management and they'd be golden to be honest.
>>345503510
>Maybe swap NPCs who are stationed around the dam.
Everyone would complain about how the climactic battle that the entire game was leading up to didn't do shit but change the faction of the guards in one location, and those complaints would be justified.
>>345502753
The irony of it is that these dissccusions are more mature and thought out than the ones I've heard about real politics this year
>>345500194
>Implying dog fucker or giantman were alive.
>Implying I didn't purge Caeser scum.
Fuck you buddy
>>345503764
But at least the game would be more finished than it is, at least the quest would matter, at least you wouldn't be permanently stuck with a quest in your log and have people always talking about the battle of hoover dam like it's about to happen.
>>345503163
Story wise yes.
OWB then DM then LR.
HH doesn't fit into the story at all.
>>345504198
>at least the quest would matter,
It already matters. It's the conclusion, and you learn about its consequences soon after it's done. While showing is better than telling, the damn game has to end at some point.
President Eden > Mister New Vegas > Tabitha > Three Dog
>>345483982
The only way to reduce radiation as far as I know is to artificially increase it's half life (the length of time it takes radioactivity to reduce by half) each element has radioactivity and therefore a half life (carbon dating works this way by testing how much radiation the specimen has, from that you can work out how many times it's radioactivity has reduced by half and hence, how old it is)
Basically by reducing radiation in a substance you cause it to fade away faster, to degrade. Theoretically whatever device that reduces radiation in water would simply cause it to cease to exist, so no, it isn't removed and stored somewhere like Bethesda and this fucking Todd cock sucker poster seems to think in that image.
Source: A grade in Chemistry at College.
>>345504457
>It already matters
No it fucking doesn't, the game literally ends and forces you to load your last save before the final quest, it does absolutely nothing to affect the game.
>While showing is better than telling, the damn game has to end at some point.
No it doesn't, not in this kind of game, this is just retarded.
>>345504664
The faggot in 4 is insufferable and I don't know what they were thinking (though I still like FO4, it's not as bad as everyone here says).
Eden was the best though.
>That "we're at war" speech
>>345504664
CONELRAD>Everything else
>>345504664
Correct
>>345504793
>No it fucking doesn't, the game literally ends and forces you to load your last save before the final quest, it does absolutely nothing to affect the game.
It's the end of the fucking story, dude. Does it only matter if it changes the world space somehow?
>>345483982
>>345504768
You can actually purge 99% of radiation in water by filtering it through non-irradiated earth. TMYK.
Is there any mod that makes all the GRA weapon mods work for the normal variants too?
>>345504842
It's fun loot and shoot and the side quests are alright. Main quest sucks shit and voiced protagonist ruins my feeling of role-playing.
I hate Travis sooo much though. I'd rather listen to Silver Shroud and Classical.
>>345505002
>It's the end of the fucking story, dude
And what? The game's story is over, yours isn't, why is Obsidian allowed to tell you what your character can and not not do?
>Does it only matter if it changes the world space somehow?
Fucking yes, are you saying that if I say I made NV a complete game, that I have actually made NV a complete game?
>>345505204
>Shoot and loot
The problem with this is that it's only worth playing once
>>345505204
>Main quest sucks shit and voiced protagonist ruins my feeling of role-playing.
My main issue with the game. Love the world, the exploration, the gunplay, companions are better than they've ever been, but you can only interact with all of it in a YES/NO/SARCASTIC YES/ASK WHY YOU SHOULD SAY YES format.
Doesn't help that the voice actor for the protag sounds like a dipshit if male, and a robot if female.
Will be migrating from console NV to PeeCee in a week or so, what's the recommended first playthrough mod setup? i.e. necessary bugfixes, restorations, etc. Also, anything that will improve the feel of the shooting mechanics?
>>345505543
Go to /fog/ and check out the OP. It's a pretty good starter mod kit.
>>345505316
>why is Obsidian allowed to tell you what your character can and not not do?
I've told you: they probably didn't have the resources to alter the game world significantly enough once the battle was over -- and if they didn't bother, just let you continue to run around around it would seem stupid that the world isn't shifting.
I saw this and thought of you guys
>>345505984
>they probably didn't have the resources to alter the game world significantly enough once the battle was over
Resources or the time. They had 18 months from start to finish.
Man why is GRA content so late game? By the time I have any money to get it/reach the vendor I barely have any time to use the weapons.
>>345506551
Gamble more/pick up snowglobes. After you hit Vegas you should have more than enough caps to buy anything you want.
>>345505023
Haha fair enough, well there you go, Bethesda and that guy from the image are full of shit.
I am not surprised though that Bethesda did zero research in to water purification when their entire plot is based on it. That woud have taken effort.
>>345492438
>I know it sounds kind of stupid, but am i supposed to pretend i'm the character or pretend my character to be someone else and adjust the choices to his liking?
I always do both and basically play an edgy version of me. Sort of how I'd like other people to perceive me. By the time I killed Benny I already felt like I was a part of that world and had my own motives to act on after having my revenge.
I find self-inserting like this to be the easiest in the RPGs, never could get into making crazy characters with a very specific, strong theme. I'd just always get bored of them because they felt alien.
Self-inserting is terrible for replaybility though, my subsequent playthroughs are almost always the same as the first one.
>>345506734
>Gamble more
did people actually bother with gambling?
Is it actually viable? I thought it was just a cosmetic game and you couldn't really win big in it.
>>345505543
>i.e. necessary bugfixes, restorations, etc
be patient, the nexus is absolutely shitting itself right now, the people who run it are retards, but it's the best place on the internet for mods.
Mod Organizer
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?
The skyrim nexus is just a host for the program, it works for NV as well as a few other Bethesda games
Fallout New Vegas Script Extender
http://nvse.silverlock.org/
4GB New vegas
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55061/
Yukichigai Unofficial Patch
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51664/?
New Vegas Anti-Crash
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635/
The Mod Configuration Menu - required to make CASM function
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/42507/?
CASM - The vanilla saving system is prone to bloating and corruption, CASM doesn't bloat and your saves are almost guaranteed to never be corrupted
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45652/?
I also recommend you give this a look over
http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Essarrbee/FalloutNewVegas
It contains a lot of great mods and helpful tips on setting up your game to work its best
As for restorations, the only one I can truly recommend is A Van Graff Scorned
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45991/?
I recommend you leave this one off and save your game before entering the Silver Rush for the first time so you can see how it is in vanilla, then turn it on so you can see the scene in all its cut glory
I always say it's best to go in as vanilla as possible when you're new to a game, that way you know exactly what you're changing and how different it is
>>345506848
>did people actually bother with gambling?
Are you serious? It's easy as shit to max out each casino, even with average luck. With 7 or 8 base LK you can max every casino (5-10k per casino) in an hour to get enough caps to get every implant your END can afford and buy whatever gun you want.
>>345491294
That guy is a fucking tool though. Steals all the credit for his subordinates' work and shit.
>>345507096
But he's right
>>345506848
its Luck dependant
if you have 7+ Luck you can make great profit, I never set my Luck higher though because it made gambling way too easy and you get banned at casinos so you dont break the game with infinite caps
>>345506021
Kek. Someone needs to shop Ulysses' mask on him
>>345505984
>>345506159
Neither of these hold any ground on why the final game is the way it is, they didn't have ANYTHING to change, everything that changes in the mojave happens a while after you conquer hoover dam, literally the only immediate change the "ending" talks about is a different faction controlling the dam.
Obsidian literally has NO excuse
>>345506848
>did people actually bother with gambling?
yes
also if you scam save during gambling you're a big fat pussy
>>345507197
>talks about is a different faction controlling the dam
and towns and the strip and freeside and bases and
>>345506021
lel
>>345502263
I wonder how a conversation between Lanius and Graham would go.
There would probably be a lot of name-calling from Lanius with bible verses mixed in there from Graham.
>>345507339
>and towns and the strip and freeside and bases and
OH MAN! An NPC's spawn is replaced by another and/or doesn't spawn anymore!
Holy shit that's SUCH a huge change!
Fuck off Obsidrone
>>345505543
>Also, anything that will improve the feel of the shooting mechanics?
Project Nevada
also get NMC texture pack and an ENB if you GPU can handle it to make the game not look like shit
Okay, question, how good is Lily? Never bothered to actually try her out.
>>345507197
>They had no excuse to put a lot of content in a game in a limited amount of time and not have enough time to add in everything
Ok
>>345507508
You mean the exact same thing that happens in 3 and 4
>>345507670
Did you even read the post you replied to?
You just called yourself stupid
>>345507751
How so?
>>345507748
Yep, it wasn't hard for Bethesda, so why is it so hard for Obsidian?
>>345508013
Bethesda had 7 fucking years for FO3 and 8 years for FO4. Take a guess.
>>345508013
(You)
>>345507861
>"literally the only immediate change the "ending" talks about is a different faction controlling the dam."
>"a lot of content"
You're an idiot
>>345508083
>>345508084
>Oh shit I can't win this argument, better scapegoat and call him a troll!
Classic Obsidrones
>>345508105
Except it doesn't. You already got proved wrong on that. There are a significant amount of changes in the Mojave that happen just during the Battle of Hoover Dam, not just years. A lot more than happen at the end of FO4 or 3.
>>345508171
>why can x developer not do the exact same that y developer did with 8 times the amount of time?! X developer must suck dick!
That's not how it works.
>>345508105
>>345508171
(You)
Give me an example of a major change in a Bethesda game post main quest
>>345508313
>>345508346
>NO! THIS IS ABOUT BETHESDA NOW!!!!!!
nope, still about Obsidian and New Vegas
since I know you're going to keep trying to change the subject to Bethesda, this argument is over
>>345508650
>WAAAH WHY DON'T PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME
>WHY MUST THEY HOLD FACTS OVER MY HEAD AND MAKE THE COMPARISON BETWEEN WHEN I AM DOING THE SAME
>IT'S ONLY OKAY WHEN I DO IT
>>345508650
You started the
>Muh Bethesda
>Muh favorite developer makes shitty games but I can keep playing Muh shitty games
How does this faction have ANY fans?
Jobbers, through and through.
>>345508778
This >>345507748 was the first mention of Bethesda in the argument and it clearly was not my post
This is my final reply to you
>>345508802
They're a little more sympathetic in this games than the others. They're still faggots though
>>345508802
not really much of a faction, you only see them at boulder city, red canyon, and behind the quarry.
>>345508973
You started the whole "ur a drone" thing first>>345507508
How are you so autistic that you come here every day crying "Muh obsididiots" or " back to /veegee/
>>345504793
You are completely autistic m8 you need help.
When the game is over, it's over, it's not a fucking TES game
>>345509095
If the followers or powder gangers count, they can count
>>345509445
The powder gangers and followers don't count either
>>345509556
Yes they do. Not major factions, if that's what you mean.
>>345509334
>calling someone a drone is the same as praising bethesda
He's right, you ARE an obsidrone
>>345508802
if i do a chem addict character there pretty chill to hang out with plus melissa is a qt
>>345509769
Calling someone a drone is a meaningless buzzword and often used as bait. It means you're not going to take thier argument seriously because "ur just an obsididrone"
>>345510036
Well I guess that's why he addressed your argument in full
>>345510326
How? Because he was whining about the ending?
>>345508802
Even in the original Fallout they're kind of the laughing stock of the wasteland. It's a wonder they lasted that long really.
>weapons and armor add up to 31 pounds
>I literally have 123 pounds of Aid items
>most of it is probably food
Anyone else have this problem?
>tfw never-ending fanboy feuding exemplifies our addiction to conflict whether it's meaningful or not
>>345510534
>they're kind of the laughing stock of the wasteland.
I mean, everyone talks them up as badasses in New Vegas, then they turn out to be a bunch of dumbass tribals down on their luck.
>>345510846
Just eat it or put it somewhere for later
>>345511003
But what if I need it?
>>345510846
I sympathize.
>HP 420
What's your END?
>>345510846
Pack rat is a wonderful perk.
>>345511054
But what if you don't
>>345510846
>>345511054
>keeping aid items that increase rads
For what purpose? Unless you're cooking with it (and lets face it you're not going to cook bubble gum) just vendor or toss it.
>>345511134
It's a wonderful waste of a good perk slot is what it is.
>>345510846
You should see how hardcore mode energy weapons/explosives builds end up. Microfusion cells weight a shitton and a half in bulk
>>345511106
10
9 from creation, 1 from the implant
>>345511281
Holy minmax batman
>>345511281
>that perception
You can't even get the best perk
>>345511364
>You can't even get the best perk
Which is?
>>345496594
I've been trying to kill the strippers in Gomorrah without being seen so I can get all three stripper outfits.
>>345511407
Better Criticals
>>345511407
Better criticals like in every other fallout game.
>>345511423
Why
>>345510846
All my guns probably take up half of my weight limit. I'm on lonesome road and I have to keep dropping weapons or clothes so I can keep moving. Sucks, mang.
>>345511471
>>345511482
I don't feel it's entirely necessary for melee
>>345511482
>like in every other fallout game
Well, not EVERY Fallout game. It's absolutely shit in 4. There's no real reason to put any points into luck. Maybe 3 points for bloody mess, but that's about it.
>>345511698
>unarmed
>not using a crit build
Holy shit you are bad
>>345511593
So I can dress my chick up as a slut. I have one of the stripper outfits and I also have both night wear gowns.
>>345511698
Only thing that perk isn't good for is explosives.
You don't know melee until you've got yourself pumped full of chems with the turbo implant, all criticals damage bonuses and Greased Lightning
One thing 3 did well over NV was naming the travelling merchants. Made it feel like there were other distinct characters actually running around and doing their own thing.
>>345511795
Fallout 4 keeps slipping out of my mind. I wonder why.
>>345484858
>talking shit about based grandma
Fuck ya m8
>>345511890
The reason they're not really named in NV is that they're not unique. There's many, many, many, many trader caravans in the West. It's not like the East Coast where there's no real semblance of civilization so when caravans are active you actually know (and care about) the individuals doing it because of the sheer rarity of it. East Coast Fallout and West Coast Fallout are completely different beasts entirely. West Coast got their shit together 50 years after the bombs fell. East Coast still hasn't got their shit together 210 years later.
>>345511940
Because it's barely a Fallout game. It's less of a Fallout game than Tactics or BoS which is saying something.
I may have overdone it with the chems for fighting the legendary Bloatfly
>>345511795
>needing crits to be good at unarmed
Maybe if I was doing a 0 strength build
Like I said, I don't feel it's entirely necessary
>>345511861
I'm about to go buy Greased Lightning
How would you rate it's power in and out of V.A.T.S.?
>>345512289
>need
It isn't about NEED. It's about WANT. It's about RAW FUCKING POWER. It's about knocking someone's fucking block off with one punch.
>>345512205
>There's many, many, many, many trader caravans in the West. It's not like the East Coast where there's no real semblance of civilization so when caravans are active you actually know (and care about) the individuals doing it because of the sheer rarity of it.
Shit, that's well reasoned.
Still would have been nice to see familiar faces besides Ringo and Victor show up in different places.
>>345498915
Always liked how The Jukebox gives you a long winded celebration long after everyone else stopped.
>>345512385
Well your wants are different than Frank Horrigan Jr's
>>345512205
>West Coast got their shit together 50 years after the bombs fell.
Vault 8 opened up in 2091, so it's more like 15 years
What's your favorite ending /v/?
Mine is the Yes Man ending
And what's your favorite DLC ending?
Play fallout 3
Boring as fuck and hate it
Get put off Fallout nv cause of 3
play nv this year
Actually a good game
is fallout 4 closer to 3 or nv?
>>345512289
It's fantasting when used in combination with Slayer, turbo and rushing water. Proably the best unarmed build you can get
>>345512419
That's a fair point.There's many mods that do that and add some cut content in as well. It's a crying shame that Obsidian didn't have more time to work on the game before being forced into releasing it. I don't think we'll ever get an Obsidian sequel after the bad blood that occurred over NV between them and Bethesa sadly.
>>345512561
>my wants are different from the guy whose whole schtick is knocking people's blocks off
I don't think so, Tim.
>>345512664
Fair, but it was pretty isolated until the 2200s.
>>345512750
Best game ever made.
>>345510846
I'm mostly weighed down by extra guns, but at least with Lonesome Road you can come and go at anytime.
>>345512750
Neither.
This anon >>345512892 is retarded. If you like NV you probably won't like 4 after you play through it once.Yar har it and try it
>>345512750
3, but the gameplay is pretty nice, if you like fighting stuff.
Even the settlement building can be a good way to burn some time.
>>345510846
I have Vicious Wastes installed and even when I cheat and install a backpack mod, I'm still lucky to have anything over 100 in carry capacity.
>>345512848
>I don't think we'll ever get an Obsidian sequel after the bad blood that occurred over NV between them and Bethesa sadly.
ive been living under a rock. explain pls
>>345481460
Where's the scientist that thinks he's a ghoul but is just human? I forget his name.
>>345513516
Obsidian gets promised a bonus if they get a 85 or higher on metacritic and miss that by a bit because of bugs, says Beth was supposed to do the bug testing also something about deadlines.
>>345513516
You want the long version or the short version? The short version is that Bethesda offered Obsidian a bonus if they got a certain score on metacritic, but they fell short by one point because of bugs caused by deadlinesand I and Obsidian wouldn't doubt it if Bethesda had a hand in that one point either.The long version starts with the collapse of Black Isle Studios, the original Fallout developers, most of whose developers founded and make up Obsidian.
>>345513227
I'm having this problem with VW where the cut on my carry weight is lost every time I load a save, but restored when I tweak anything in its MCM tab. You haven't happened to have encountered that and fixed it, have you?
It's the last thing in my load order.
>>345513947
I thought Black Isle announced that they're back?
>>345514410
Sort of. Interplay "revived" the company a few years ago. Only two of the original developers work for them, though. The vast majority of the original Black Isle makes up Obisidan.
>>345503007
What is Lonesome Road, you moron?
>>345504793
Jesus christ anon, all things come to an end eventually, they would have pissed off at least half the fan base, including me, if they pulled that shit. Chill and enjoy the entire rest of the game.
I like Bethesda's Fallout games but NV has proven to be really good too.
I have 1 and 2 installed, anything I should know about getting started on them?
>>345515530
Pump points into agility in the first one. If you don't get a companion as fast as possible
>>345515530
AP ammo is useless. CHA isn't the dump stat it is in the newer games. There is absolutely no drawback to gifted. Aimed shots are okay. More shots are better. Find a character creation guide desu, it'll solve a lot of your early game headaches. Also: be wary of the initial time limit in 1. You have 500 days to find the water chip, but once you do you have 13 years to finish the game which you'd be insanely bad to get.There's also a time limit on many of the good endings2 has a time limit of 13 years, which you'd also have to be insanely bad to reach. Explore. Have fun. Remember it's only a game.
>>345515826
>AP ammo is useless.
>>345515964
It's bugged. It doesn't work. It doesn't actually pierce DT like it says it does. It's shit. It's useless. It's garbage. I'm running out of synonyms here.
Question.
What purpose does the backpack serve if this weapon is reloaded from the side of the gun?
>>345511653
You can always turn around. At any time. Also sell excess to commissary
>>345516069
Coolant?
>>345516067I read the start your post by itself and thought you were talking about NV
In NV it's too useful -- never enough of it.
>>345516325
Where can you buy AP ammo I feel like only two vendors sell it
This talk of bullets reminds me how I never stray away from default bullets. Always switched for a melee weapon when something sturdy came up.
>>345503305
>>345503510
The game was meant to end after Hoover dam mostly due to a narrative choice. Same reason why you can't still play as the chosen one/vault dweller at the end of 1 and 2. You can make the argument that it was money/time constraints, but they wanted the battle of Hoover dam to have weight and be a decisive end, not just "oh thank god, now I can do the side quests and DLC!"
>>345503895
Degenerated (you) and crosses.
Get there.
>tfw you get every stat implant
Need more caps for the regeneration implant though
>>345515530
big guns and energy guns, and there ammunitions, are pretty rare at the beginning so it may be better to concentrate in other way of combat at first, you can always improve it later.
you can buy an infinite number of skill books, but they only increase the skill to around 90% (the max is 200) and they work for like 5 skills.
is possible to increase each special for one point
>>345516812
Gun Runners, Crimson Caravan, Boomers, Chet at higher levels, the Nashes at higher levels, Camp McCarranif you don't lock up that one faggotIt's actually really fucking easy to find if you buy it when it's in stock. Alternatively, make it yourself desu.
>>345516069
jesus that game looks terrible, i thought 4 looked bad but i guess its nostalgia goggles
>>345516849
>but they wanted the battle of Hoover dam to have weight and be a decisive end, not just "oh thank god, now I can do the side quests and DLC!"
That would imply roleplaying doesn't exist and the main quest is all that matters
Both of which are completely false, having the game end after the final main quest doesn't incite the "oh thank god, now I can do the side quests and DLC!" mentality, it incites the "if I want to continue enjoying the game I have to ignore this questline as hard as possible" mentality
>>345517234
It's ugly but not that ugly. All fallout games look bad and I enjoy them so I can't complain
>No Mod to bring Grandpa Mobius closer yet
That's a bit of a walk for a free mentat.
>>345481460
Yo what up, I'm the resident New Vegas activist for /fog/, come join me. /fog/ has stopped complaining about FNV being in their threads, so just please stop taking the obvious bait and making people complain and come join me.
>>345482808
They were going to have a Super Mutant Ranger too but ran out of time.
The notes said he was going to have a normal sized Ranger hat, which would look teeny tiny on his head.
>>345517753
>bucket of bolts jumps thread because he gets run off for being a faggot
You can fuck off out of here too, nigger.
>>345490592
So was it on purpose or was it an oversight?
>90/8154
This is what I get for picking up any ammo I find
And with that, I am now a god
>>345518093
>Not playing on Hardcore
Adding weight to ammo was a great idea.
Let's make this a fallout 4 thread instead since it's more recent and leagues better
>>345518814
Too bad the "needs" system is tacked on to it
>>345518784
I only just started playing this game for the first time, what's going on in this image?
>>345517291
Role playing aspect. If that's the point you're making, you're playing the wrong game. Fallout isn't supposed to head canon the game. Everyone wants to be a beautiful little snowflake with a yes man ending, Rex and Roxie puppies and cass/Veronica on their dick. Give it a rest. If you want to role play, play a table top rpg or go larping. The game shouldn't be tailored to you so you can roleplay against the story's end or purpose.
Tl;dr new Vegas purpose was to tell a story and allow choice within the confines of the story.
>>345518862
Let me reply to you to show you how not-baited I am.
>>345518953
>new vegas isn't suppose to be a role playing game
Fuck you
>>345518906
He got implants. Judging by the price it was the DT implant.
>>345481460
posting my list of mods again
http://pastebin.com/nBaNgySn
>>345505356
>companions are better
But anon most of the companions suck ass with the exception of Codsworth, Nick and Courie.
The AI also sucks fucking ass they barely attack and their pathfinding sucks ass.
Also not having the companion wheel killed the companion system too.
>>345518906
You can buy implants at the New Vegas Clinic, it's near the Crimson Caravan Trading Company
>>345519295
Actually it was regeneration, the DT implant is 8k
>>345519402
Should have said better-written. And I was saying that by Bethesda's standards, I haven't gotten far enough in NV yet to judge the companions in this game.
But Cass has not impressed me.
>>345519672
Most of the sidekicks are truly fleshed out through their sidequests.
Just like supossedly Fallout 4
>>345519101
Within the confines of the story. Stay mad. The game ends
>>345519331
>Installed 4GB patch
>Still crash because the game ran out of memory
>Proceed to uninstall
>>345519834
>new vegas isn't suppose to be a role playing game
No really, fuck you.
People like you are the reason Fallout 4 exists
>>345519402
>look around your house in the tutorial before you enter the Vault
>notice Codsworth needs fuel to keep floating
>200+ years later
>he never left your neighborhood
>Codsworth is still floating around
>>345519934
I literally didn't say that, who're you quoting? I said fallout games allow role playing within the confines of the story. Stop sperging dude
>>345520045It's fuel for his flamer. Mr. Handy's are fusion powered.
>>345519825
So NV companions do in fact have sidequests?
This has been my problem with all companions in past Bethesda games. I wanna put forth a disclaimer that I still like both Bethesda Fallout games, but up until 4 companions in all of their games (Elder Scrolls included) have been nothing but cardboard cutout pack mules that recycle 3 lines of generic dialogue over and over. I don't know how you'd ever be expected to get invested in """"companions""""" like that.
I liked the fact that FO4 companions were allowed to be fully fleshed out and actualized, and if NV truly has companion sidequests, that's a step up from any Beth game that came before it, so good on Obsidian for having the foresight to try and get players to actually care.This may be more important to me than it should be
>>345520101
>I literally didn't say that
>I said fallout games allow role playing within the confines of the story.
Exactly, you're saying that fallout isn't suppose to be a role playing game.
if role playing is removed at any point it's a bad thing, you're saying this is how it's suppose to be, so fuck off back to /fog/
>>345520141
The difference between the FO4 and FNV companion quests is that the FNV companion quests are actually good.
>>345520141
They have sidequests, though figuring out how to activate some of them is tricky without someone telling you.
Raul might be the worst offender, the few old men and women in the Wasteland and I hear it's easy to fuck up by talking to them without Raul around the first time.
Some, like Lily, are piss easy though.
>>345520141
Yeah, but you should probably read the wiki on how to trigger them, because they have a bad tendency to bug out.
The quests are all good from a story perspective, particularly considering how they tie in to the themes of the game as a whole.
>>345519934
Not that anon but i also was sad because VTMB had an end, the truth is most of RPG's have an end because it's like having a tabletop session, they aren't supossed to keep going on and on forever (even tough some of us would love to keep doing shit in their universe) there is a point were the content just starts to lack, i really hope they make rpg's with so much shit to do that you can keep going the ammount of time you like, but that also puts in risk the main plot from the game.
>>345520045
I was talking more about personality, i already know that Bethesda can follow track of their own lore for more than two steps.
>>345520141
Obsidian was the first one with companion quests to flesh out their personalities. T
hey spoke more to you when you took decisions and gave you advice about the companies you were around, so yeah check the wiki if you have doubts.
>>345520125
>fusion powered.
so that explains why your Power Armors keep running out of juice in Fallout 4
>>345520325
And when you start making statements like that I stop caring.
I'm pretty content with enjoying the entirety of this series as I go. "Good" is subjective. I thoroughly enjoyed a lot of the companion backstories in FO4 even if the quests themselves were simple and short, and I got attached to most of the cast minus Piper, X6, and Preston.
I'm really enjoying NV right now. Doesn't mean I have to dislike the other games as a result.
>>345520539
>A fucking appliance can run forever but not military technology
>>345520539
>General Atomics Finest!
>>345520314
>Projecting this hard
dude, that's some conclusion you got there. Restricting certain role playing elements so it doesn't go against the story isn't a bad thing. theres a reason new Vegas doesn't have a post gameplay segment, because the way the game would be after the battle of Hoover dam would have to be drastically different or it would diminish the importance of the story. Besides the post ending gameplay you're sperging about, what other role playing issues do you have with NV? If there's nothing, it's time for you to stop posting.
>>345515826
tell me more
>>345520615
You don't have to dislike them but the major consensus on /v/ is that they're shit
>>345520615
I was the first one to tell you about FNV companion quests and im not that anon, just so you don't project im him.
>>345520141
companions in NV are actually developed very nicely
>>345520913
this. you aren't meant to fuck them. you are meant to guide them and give them closure.
>>345520785
I know that, but it won't deter me from discussing the games. I know NV is the most-discussed here but I can still talk about it in light of what the other two 3D Fallout games got right and what they got wrong.
Thought right now I'm trying to decide if NV will end up being my favorite. It has a lot going for it, not the least of which being the blatant Western theme going on. I'm a sucker for that stuff.
>>345520913
>On the road with Cass
>She says we're a caravan of two now
Warms my heart.
>>345520384
>because they have a bad tendency to bug out
>I hear it's easy to fuck up by talking to them without Raul around the first time.
I've literally never heard this or had this issue. It's probably an issue that was patched out years ago.
>>345520539
>>345520676
Gameplay =/= lore. Lorewise fusion cores last upwards of 100 years before needing to be changed.
>>345520615
>being this assblasted
>implying I implied you have to hate FO4
You don't HAVE to do anything, but the companion quests in FO4 were insanely bad and despite your projections the companions were very shallow husks of NPCs that only serve the purpose of giving the PC a messiah complex and nothing more. Once you finish any of the quests, outside of maybe Lily's, you'll see.
>>345520768
Companions are your friends, the more you can get the better. Unlike modern FO games where perks at least serve a niche purpose, many perks are absolutely useless. Never take a perk that increases your stats unless it's SPECIAL. Even then it's probably a waste of a perk slot. I can delve into specifics if you pose a less broad question.
>>345521004"It's about letting go."x6
>>345521007
I know, but there's not that much to discuss on 3 and 4. There isn't much replayability.
>>345481460
>you never got to fuck Cass
>>345521208
>Once you finish any of the quests, outside of maybe Lily's, you'll see.
Okay, but so far I don't share your sentiments. I loved the way companions were handled in FO4 even if Bethesda has trouble writing beyond "protagonist please fix all of our problems". Understand that I expected fuckall from companions in that game due to Bethesda's track record, so when one of them even stopped me to speak for the first time I was bewildered.
>>345521585
>Okay, but so far I don't share your sentiments
Probably because you haven't played the game which is what I'm telling you to do.
>Understand that I expected fuckall from companions in that game due to Bethesda's track record, so when one of them even stopped me to speak for the first time I was bewildered
Just because they improved upon their previous standings doesn't mean they're currently good by any means. China is less shit than it was 40 years ago. It's still a shithole today.
>>345521585
Bethesda mimics what the older games do a lot. Like plots and characters because they're lazy. Companions starting their own quests happens in NV first, so it's like it is in 4
Time to go fight some deathclaws
>>345485381
his name was pvt. kyle edwards, I only remember that because its my name
>>345522247
Heal up nigga
>>345522247
>Install Enclave Commander
>Me and my BoS bros shit all other the deathclaws
It's fun and unbalanced!
>>345521776
Oh don't worry I've been playing New Vegas at every chance this past week or so since I bought it. Love the game. I'm gonna play it through and through and form a more complete opinion on it in due time. But to my untrained eye, it looks to me like one core difference between Black Isle/Obsidian's vision for Fallout and Bethesda's vision for Fallout is that Bethesda simply doesn't take it as seriously. That's not to say that Obsidian doesn't inject humor into their games because there's clearly plenty of it, but Bethesda goes overboard with the wacky crazy retro-futurist theme and their superhero protags/factions. Longtime fans of the series probably see this as insulting, but Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game.
I try to adapt my expectations depending on what I know about who developed a game and under what circumstances. To many, Bethesda's approach is distasteful and shameful, but I can't sit here and call it outright bad when I've had a load of fun with their games and that was clearly their first priority. They build their version as sort of a wacky post-nuclear playground for players to explore and muck about in while Obsidian tries to establish something more intricate and grounded in what might actually unfold. I have the capacity to enjoy one just as much as the other, but the difference in opinion isn't lost on me.
Or has it? Is all of this on point so far or have I not yet seen enough?
>>345491294
>implying Hildern isnt a gayboy who submitted your data and took all the credit for it
and all he paid you was 1200 caps like the little cuck you are
>>345488357
Arcade was a whiny cunt who made Boone likable by comparison. I'd do Raul just for his voice
>>345517814
Not the one who can't continue replying you cuck. Get off my thread you fat virgin.
>>345522486
The thing is is that Bethesda is shit. They copied a mod because that had better writing than anything they could come up with. And there aren't many approaches to dealing with people expect kill or be nice. Or any problems in general and it usually falls towards the former because a shitton of quests are "just get this in the dungeon" or "kill a super hero or don't". There no point of playing these games more than once or twice because you can see everything in one or two sittings.And Bethesda isn't that funny either. I didn't need a fucking sarcastic button that makes cheesy jokes all the time.
>>345522486
There's a long copy pasta floating around, that I'm too lazy to find, which highlights how Bethesda seriously fucked up the series and as you noted the wackiness is one huge fucking factor. That and how the game is supposed to be shaped. Since 3 was your first I HIGHLY suggest you pick up 1 and 2 and give those a playthrough. The difference between Obsidian and Bethesda is that the Obsidian devs created the series. The difference between NV and 3 is how Fallout was envisioned in the 1990's. When Bethesda picked up the series they changed nearly EVERYTHING about the game. They shit all over the lore, introduced the INTERESTING STORY through "wacky" bullshit (don't get me wrong, FO1 and 2 both had their wacky moments, but Bethesda is on a different plane of existence entirely), and completely altered the focuses of the game. Black Isle (whose former developers founded Obsidian after Black Isle was destroyed by Interplay) used Fallout as a criticism of culture and a look at how society could deal with certain problems in certain situations (which is why some groups became raiders like the Khan's and others became Shady Sands and built the NCR despite coming from the same vault) while using the PC as a lens into the world and a potential catalyst. Bethesda turned Fallout into a wacky roller coaster theme park that treats the PC as a God among men. It's understandable that you would hold the point of view with FO3 as your first and I'm not saying your opinion is objectively wrong, but there are many issues with what you have to say. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoyed 3 and 4 for what they were. They wereaboveaverage games. They were bad Fallout games, though. 4 especially.
>>345522648
>>345523112
>Using the word cuck incorrectly
Cucks
>>345522247
you need to juice up. i used to be so worried about addictions but you can just go see a doctor or use a Fixer. But to be honest, I think Fixers should be removed.
>>345523112
aaaand filtered. Enjoy the trash pile.
>>345521512
>he doesnt have Vulpes Inculta with FCO as a companion
I'd be embarrassed if I were you
>>345523489
How many times did you play 3 and 4?
>>345522659
Arcade was a smart dude who had really limited options in what he could do with his life because he had to hide his past associations. He spends his whole life trying to make up for all the evil things he never actually did.
>>345523574
>made a post about incorrectly using the word cuck
>improperly uses the word cuck
>>345523790
I only played 3 twice. Once before DLC, once after all the DLC came out. It left a really bitter taste in my mouth. I have ~150 hours on 4 becauseI wanted my achievements.I'll give 4 another playthrough in September after Nukaworld finally comes out at the end of August, and then I'm dropping it for good. In contrast, I have 800 hours in NV, probably 300 hours between 1 and 2 (over 20 years), another 30 between BoS and Tactics.
>>345523489
>Since 3 was your first I HIGHLY suggest you pick up 1 and 2 and give those a playthrough
I have them installed and I'm gonna dive in as soon as I'm done with NV. I think I mentioned that somewhere earlier in this thread. I'm slowly beginning to better understand the finer nuances in these utterly different approaches by these two developers, but I'm hoping that by the end of this jaunt through the series I'll still be able to enjoy the Bethesda Fallout games just fine (and hope they improve) because quite frankly it's what we'll be getting from here on out. I think I'd be content with enjoying them for what they are, even if I have to lower my standards to "let's have some cuhrazy post-nuclear fun" and leave it at that.
But for now my focus is going through the rest of NV and the first two Fallout games and immersing myself in what Obsidian originally envisioned for their series, and respecting that.
i need good POWER ARMOR MODS
>>345524190
make your own cunt
>>345523489
You mean this thing?
>>345523905
>>345524062
>I liked them for they were and they were above average games but they left a bitter taste in my mouth
Maybe they just aren't good
>>345524190
there aren't any. most of them are not lore-friendly.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/47488/?
>>345524248
iunno how
What do you guys think New Vegas 2 will be like?
>>345524180
>but I'm hoping that by the end of this jaunt through the series I'll still be able to enjoy the Bethesda Fallout games just fine
If their current PR nightmare is anything to show for it, it's just going to keep getting worse. They already removed the RPG from Post-Apocalyptic RPG. I don't see any improvement from that point forward.
>>345524260
That's the one.
>>345524265
150 hours for a non-MP game is pretty good by today's standards. I can't lie about that. For a singe player video game, they're above average. They just aren't good Fallout games unfortunately which is why they left a bitter taste in my mouth. When you play what is supposedly a main installment of the series, you expect the game to be a main installment of said series. You don't expect lore to be gutted. You don't expect The Sims: Fallout Edition. You don't expect the RPG to be removed from Post-Apocalyptic RPG. I received two thirds of these with 3. I received all of them with 4. Fallout 2 was my first game despite being a kidhonestly, I don't know how my parents let me get away with that. It was far worse than GTA was at the time.so I was expecting certain things when Fallout 3 finally came out in 2007(8?). It did not deliver. Similarly with 4: I avoided the hype videos because I didn't want to be let down. I enjoyed the first 20 hours, with a few disappointments like SPECIAL, of my first playthrough and then the flaws began to show and it became a really big disappointment.
Fighting the deathclaws has gone fucking sour, time for a new strategy
>>345524851
are you gonna throw poison-tipped spears at them and wait until they die out?
>>345524741
Non-existent.
PEACE OUT FUCKERS
EAT MY DICK
>>345524904
Nope I'm taking it and running the FUCK away
>>345524741
Not real
>>345524835
I'd say above average AAA games. Nothing more,nothing less
>>345524851
GREASED LIGHTNING
MED-X
PSYCHO
RUSHING WATER
>>345525017
What does that halo do? I remember it being useless or too expensive to use and repair
>>345525170
HP regen.
>>345525170
it has very slow health regen. the unique version gives slow health regen. doesn't work on NPCs.
>>345525113
you forgot weapon binding ritual and battle brew
>Start up Fallout 4
>Muh baby muh baby muh baby
>Everything looks like its made of plastic
>Factions are beyond retarded
>Gunplay is fun
>Go back to New Vegas
>Everything is great but after Fallout 4 the gunplay just feels painfully bad
>Fallout 4 is so fucking bad it made the other games retroactively worse.
>>345486582
I imagine during the attack on camp golf he takes down a bunch of legion soldiers bare handed
>>345525472
Play a melee character instead and change it up. 4's melee system is absolute garbage and only retarded raiders pull it once in a blue moon. Atleast in NV it's a viable playstyle.
All things considered why aren't there stealth finishers in 4? They could make it like Dishonored finishers. I'd love a more robust stealth system where moving bodies made a difference. I haven't tried it before but can you "throw" junk in NV and 3 to lure enemies away?
>>345525472
Honestly, playing NV makes me want Obsidian to do a spiritual successor with fucking great combat
>>345527168
Don't count on it. Sawyer basically confirmed that they don't get to touch Fallout anymore.
>>345526819
Pls no. The first thing I always do in any Bethesda game is to turn off the killcam bullshit.
>>345527212
That's why I said spiritual successor, another open world RPG set in a sci-fi western setting with improved combat would be perfect
>>345527168
Sad thing is what little bit of 4 I've played I enjoy but I still play it like a retard bullet sponge man.
Guess I'm used to the combat of older games more.
>>345527353
I don't know if they'll ever branch out of their isometric RPG stuff. Doesn't seem like they want to at the moment.
>>345527218
Do it fast though not like that shit. Ever play Blood Dragon? That is some fast and satisfying kill animations.
Honestly I never played Dishonored so idk how those play out. I was using it as an example.
>>345527559
Losing control of your character in combat, no matter how long, unless it's to paralysis or some shit is fucking stupid and you're fucking stupid for suggesting it.
>>345527661
Guess you haven't played Blood Dragon because you rarely ever lose control. You're hostile as fuck have this.
>>345527987
>you rarely ever lose control
That's not never, faggot. Again: Losing control of your character in combat, NO MATTER HOW LONG, unless it's to paralysis or some shit is fucking stupid and you're fucking stupid for suggesting it.
>>345528490
And you're fucking stupid for getting so angry over nothing.
>>345526819
>can you "throw" junk in NV and 3 to lure enemies away?
Nope, in Gamebryo only MC using weapons and moving around makes "noises" for AI to react to, everything else is always ignored.
>>345488357
Nah, I'd rather fuck Boone or Raul.
>>345528490
t.Autism
So what's everyone's current character?
This is Frank Horrigan Jr, he was born a super mutant from Frank Horrigan's superior super mutant sperm
He favors unarmed combat and hopes to be as strong as his father some day
>>345532303
Didn't they make a specific point about Super Mutants being sterile?
>>345481460
I really wish that Obsidian would do another NV for Bethesda's Fallout 4
I want a game with that character face editor that isn't complete fucking garbage.
>>345532372
I don't want to discuss lore in a game with super mutants and talking ghouls
>>345532303
I made Rhonin once and he went around punching people to death and threatening to summon raptors at them
>>345499815
BEWARE THE BATTLE CATTLE
>>345500278
Fucking this. Also Elite Riot Gear.
All ranger-esque armours are sexy af.
>FOHGIVE ME MAMA
>>345504202
It is thematically because Joshua Graham can'tlet goof Zion or his warlike tendencies.
In terms of actual story, he mentions expecting Ulysses to show up but that's about as far as it goes.
>>345485381
They only kill him if you are a low-speech fuck up
>>345508802
Jack and Diane make my kokoro go dokidoki
>>345511795
Let me stop you right there. Luck is by far the most broken build in that game for two reasons.
>activatable criticals
>fully modded laser musket
With enough points pumped into critical charges and damage you can get a full crit meter in a single hit, fully charge the musket and land a never miss instakill literally anything in the game.
fuck off with your gayass new faggotry threads
Should I play on JSawyer first time around or no?
>>345522247
I remember giving every human companion (unlimited companions mod) Vault Riot Gear and a Riot Shotgun and then going to that place to purge the Deathclaw nest.
It didn't work out so well for me but we took down a bunch of those things.
>>345483068
Do you think any of the Bethdrones have touched the original two games?
>>345523805
Arcade and Raul have some sad ass backstories and character traits.
They both need to learn how tolet go
>>345534819
Sawyer still blows my mind for how professional and understanding of the game he seems to be. I'd challenge anyone at Bethesda to have as much insight into their games as he does with NV.
>>345483068
Dunno why you keep insisting on posting your own old post. The "debunking" is retarded.
>>345532659
lol, hello pete hines
>>345516849
>Same reason why you can't still play as the chosen one/vault dweller at the end of 1 and 2
But you could in 2 at least? I remember getting that Fallout magazine easter egg that grants a shit ton of experience and it's only ever a post-game item.
>>345536018
My mistake, you can in 2 and post patch 3. You cannot in 1, tactics, NV.
Don't care about 4
>>345535987
Forgot pic
>>345485381
They obviously kill him because he looks identical to the feral ghouls you see around Searchlight. Those running at you with knives.
