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>>345477568
I love how my ARMA 3 client now has "APEX" and "Purchase Now" written all over it
>>345477568
will new arma fix ridiculous cpu usage?
How's Tanoa?
>>345477786
why don't you own it tho?
it's basically a must have if you actually play the game
>>345477927
nope. oc to 4.5+ and be happy
>>345477568
I don't think I'll ever get over how stupid that design is
I really want to get this game but I'm a poorfag atm :(
Gotta love it when you get laid off...
>>345478000
>what if we attached plane to gun
What's stupid about this?
DLC is ridiculously expensive
>>345477985
amazing. literally feels like a different game because you can't snipe everything from 1.5 km anymore. now you can easily walk into a division of soldier that are 120 meters from you and have no clue about it because of how dense the jungle are. same goes for all land vehicles
>>345477568
what the fuck is that edgelord looking A10?
>>345478336
Word
>>345478179
The fact that the gun is obsolete against anything modern.
>>345478463
nice joke
>>>/k/
where are the fucking servers, 99% is autistic altis/tanoi real life some shit
>>345478179
That its not just an A-10 that is hopelessly obsolete, its a """"stealth"""" A-10 that they attempted to add stealthy features to but did nothing but show how they don't understand those features.
See the engine nacelles and how they're angular? Thats to lower radar return. See the tail how how its at an angle? same thing.
Problem is that you can still see the front of the turbine and that acts like a fucking christmas tree on radar, as does half the other shit on the airframe, making it a pointless rule of cool addition.
>>345477993
even 45+ won't save my amd fx cpu from dropping <25fps every time there is more than twenty AI enemies on field
>>345478334
Uh oh, that just means the AI can see me from a mile away, and I can't see anything past 10m.
>>345478736
>99% of American servers is autistic altis/tanoi real life some shit
fixed
Lifemods help filter out the normies/casuals/shitters and put money into Bohemia's pocket, nothing to complain about
Is there a fix for the AMD processor performance issue or are we fucked?
>tfw it will never mostly be 60v60 or co-op domination maps ever again.
Wish DayZ retail wasn't garbage and it would somehow take these RP servers with them.
>>345478807
>AMD
are you retarded? why are you using AMD in a gaming PC that is *specifically* used in a game that heavily dependent on single-thread performance?
>>345478147
have you been laid off for the last 3-4 years while the game was out?
>>345478839
They don't unless you start shooting AK in the air
also they use new AI pathfinding for vehicles. now tanks can literally stalk you through jungle which is scary as fuck if all you have is an RPG
>>345478937
>99% of the servers
It doesn't help that the few servers that exist for actual normal combined arms gameplay are loaded with shitty 50-gig bloatware mods like CUP so special snowflakes can pretend they are SEAL team 6 with their shitty looking M4's and uniforms. And then they wonder why they have no fucking players.
The CoD-babbies crying that ArmA actually had a different timeframe for once in it's 14 years of existence as a franchise are just the fucking worst shitters and are the direct reason multiplayer is dead as fuck if you don't like roleplaying bullshit.
>>345479084
not to mention that ALL arma games + APEX was on flash sale on bohemia site for $20
TWENTY
>>345479212
>Arma 2 players are CoD-babbies
OP if you want a good discussion you should make a general on /vg/ (I'd love to actually talk about in-depth arma stuff with someone not from arma forums)
here on /v/ it all be complains of poorfags about their shitty PCs and how "expensive" game is.
Will I get significant fps increase from 760 to 480 or 1070?
>>345479084
Built my PC at the end of last year, didn't decide I wanted to buy it until i saw the Apex expansion + the Apex Edition being $90 in Canada I put it off, a bit too long.
What happened to the PvE? I remember before DayZ came out ARMA2: OA had a bunch of PvE servers filled with vets and hardcore players
It was pretty fun
All I see of ARMA 3 is RP, Wasteland, and team deathmatch shit
Can someone explain to me how you have to play this game?
The MP always runs like absolute trash,and there's no mode to just freeroam and operate.
Does this game have any single player value?
>fake weapons
>fake vehicles
I wish this would stop.
Why couldn't they just be A-10s?
>>345479430
PvE operations are mostly private.
>>345479482
Because it costs money to get a license to use them
>>345479286
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>345478979
>implying my pc is *SPHECHIFICHALLLYYYYYY* used in arma3
are you retarded? i just played this game, that's all. i'm not going to make every single hardware choice in favor of one little shooty-shooty
>>345477568
so is this an actual plane or just vidya bullshit?
>>345479390
what CPU? if it's decent you can easily get 15+ FPS on 480 or 25-30+ on 1070
obviously in game is maxed @ 1080p
>>345479737
nope. it was a 12 hour long deal on their anniversary
>>345479382
The fact that you don't think they are shows that the boot fucking fits. Operation Arrowhead killed the franchise far more than DayZ ever did. The moment they caved and made a boring, shitty, and buggy as fuck Not-Afghanistan map all the CoD children flooded in to play make-believe and it fucking ruined multiplayer.
Worse map, worst factions, worst gear, most boring possible setting, and timed to be 'le relevant to current events xDDDD'. It's the most uninspired entry in the franchise and was built from the ground up to sucker in a bunch of new players from Battlefield and CoD with the setting. It's the equivalent to Wargame: AirLand Battle where 80% of the new customers just bought it because there was an A-10 on the cover.
>>345479789
It's a "futurized" A-10
ArmA 3 plays out somewhere in the next 10-20
>>345479852
FML
>>345479852
4670k overclocked to 4.5
going to play it in 1440p
>>345479789
in-game arma screenshot you can see that LOD is set to like 3-5KM
>>345479430
>PvE
>Hardcore
>Literally was just a bunch of faggots forming lines on hills and plinking at helpless, braindead AI through thermal scopes.
>>345479979
that's perfect. you won't get bottlenecked by CPU so if it's 1440p than go for 1070 it's like 30%+ faster
>>345479938
No, most people just want a combined arms simulator that doesn't have thermals attached to every fucking thing in existance.
The reason for CUP and projects like it is because cold-war era engagements are more fun than staring at a white/black hot image and selecting what distance the poor fucker you're about to ventilate is at.
>>345480061
using nightstalker feels like cheating desu
>>345479482
>MUUUHHHHH M4 faggots too retarded to realize 90% of the vehicles and equipment in ArmA 3 already exist IRL
I wish you faggots that hopped on the ArmA train during Operation Arrowhead would just shut the fuck up and stop acting like you knew anything about anything. Fuck off and go play airsoft if you want to play make believe.
>>345480235
this
>>345479948
only reason they futureized the entire game was becasue they didn't want to commit to the lisensce terms the american army has, and that is to portray their forces and equipment as superior to any other forces.
BF4 did some of the same, except they dont bother lisencing anymore after being sued for some helicopter bullshit in BF3.
arma 2 had the sight setting for america to be superior, so that was okay.
feels badman, arma 3 could have been non-futureshit if they had just caved in to their demands.
>>345479754
>Buy shitty hardware
>Complain about performance
>>345479482
The era of real life hardware in vidya is coming to a close
Manufacturers got tough with intellectual property and started charging bigger and bigger amounts to license shit, and also have creative leverage (they probably won't allow you to use their gun if you give it shitty stats or if the game is 2edgy or whatever).
Devs are better off just using fakes
>>345480183
Oh, you mean like in Operation arrowhead when everyone and their mother had fucking thermals and high-powered scopes anyway, and the terrain made it impossible to not be seen through the naked eye to begin with, Including almost no cover? Wowee so much fucking fun.
Please. Cold War autists only played PvE anyway. I play TvT exclusively and I've never had a problem dealing with thermal-using faggots, and it's even easier now that there are uniforms that defeat thermals. If anything, it made it so you had to be more intelligent with positioning and not just drive around like you were playing Babbyfield. Ya know, like a fucking simulator.
>>345479948
Will we even have A-10 in service in 10+ years?
I thought we were moving onto F-35's.
>>345479754
why are you here then? go play some moba or whatever works on amd or just kill yourself bro
>>345480519
>Ya know, like a fucking simulator.
lmao
>>345480523
do you really expect them to sent brand new f35s to fight some small groups of faggots with aks and mortars in the hills of afghanistan in 10 years?
>>345480351
It's not even futureshit though, you mongol. >>345480235
It's worlds more interesting than literally just copy-pasting assets like the franchise had been doing for 12 years prior to ArmA 3. It had nothing to do with licensing and everything to do with the fact that people were getting bored of playing the same shit over and over again since flashpoint. The only people that weren't tired of it were the teenagers that hopped on ArmA during Operation Arrowhead to be SUPAH SPECIAL OPEROOTERS LIKE MUH AIRSOFT MATCHES.
>>345480523
Will we even have F-35 in service in 10+ years?
>>345480352
>only one game runs like shit
>it runs like shit because it was written by bunch of retards who thought they're still in 2005
>it's y-your hardware, don't blame t-the ggame
>>345480519
take your meds retard
>>345480789
lel true
>>345480789
>F-35
You mean the 1 Trillion dollar paper weight?
>>345480931
DELETE THIS
I don't think ARMA is worth it anymore, it's infested with Wasteland/casual servers, the only way to get a true experience with real teamwork is to join an autist server where everyone takes themselves so seriously. You will also end up juggling ~20GB+ of mod dependencies just get up and running.
Project Reality/Squad offers a superior teamwork experience over ARMA, and you don't have to jump through so many hoops to get involved: just jump in and play. PR also has a better combined arms experience too.
>>345480931
DELET THIS
inb4 F35IDF shows up
>muh greater payload than A10
>muh avionics
>its the only gen5 so its best
>>345480789
Its in service now
>>345480826
>one game
nice delusion/bait
not a single modern game works well with AMD-moar-coar-hurr-durr policy. they suck at single thread performance. hell, even 5 year only skyrim doesn't work well on amd
>animeme picture
figures
>>345481104
>its the only gen5 so its best
Why would someone say that when the F-22 has been in service for over a decade?
and no, its not "defence forcing" to call out blatant fallacies, even if you think it is.
>>345479438
If you look in the workshop there are mods that create random missions, may not be free roam as such, but it does offer varied environments.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722675841
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722648525
>>345481104
>6 seconds too slow
Fug.
>>345481012
Feels bad. I miss ArmA 1 and flashpoint, before all these shitty custom missions and mods crapped all over it and the only people that played were folks that wanted an actual TvT military experience like advertised when it first came out. 2 started the whole sandbox bullshit.
>>345481096
>"and it's cost effective"
>>345480764
eh, 90% of the CO-OP communities in arma right now use ACE3 and RHS in some shape or form.
It's been like this since arma 2.
modder content > vanilla content
right now, futureshit weapons and vehicles dont get used, because they simply are too powerful or too far into the future.
the game IS set in 2030 or whatever tough, but eh...
>>345481194
>he's stuck in 2005 as well
>>345481263
What's more laughable are the ridiculous comparison graphics. '8x more effective at Air-to-Ground'? What does that even fucking mean?
>>345481105
at like 1 percent capability
It won't be "in service" in the sense that Super Hornets are until like the 2030's
>>345481096
>strengthens the economy
AHAHAHA they're spinning being horrificially overpriced as good because it """""meant more jobs"""""
>>345481475
>It won't be "in service" in the sense that Super Hornets are until like the 2030's
factually incorrect
>>345481269
>People mod in weapons and vehicles that aren't futureshit
>Act surprised when they are somehow weaker than the futureshit in the game
IT'S A FUTURESHIT GAME
GOD DAMN IT
>>345480351
And how do they NOT get sued for this shit?
>>345479948
It's shit. I'm not getting APEX.
>>345481269
>Modder content > vanilla content
Opinion immediately discarded if you unironically believe this giant load of bullshit. RHS and CUP are shoddy as fuck.
>>345481570
Fuck, meant to quote OP
Look, even I got confused from the thumbnails
>>345481301
In single-threaded applications, the microprocessor has 79% better performance.
The Core i7-6700K has 47% higher performance in multi-threaded programs.
The Intel Core i7-6700K has 38% better performance in memory-intensive applications.
79%
9
%
your baits became boring not giving anymore (You)s
>>345481550
Do you have any alternative figures?
I could be wrong, I don't keep up with the F-35 program that much
>>345480764
>at people were getting bored of playing the same shit over and over again since flashpoint
yeah, that's why every single community server is running RHS
nobody likes futureshit, deal with it fagtron
>>345481647
I bought it this year
>>345479754
Im building my first pc and heavily considering an amd cpu but everyone here shits on them. Are you happy with yours? How does it perform in games aside from arma?
>>345481737
>$99999 i7-6700k is better than $5 fx-8320
no shit
holy crap, i'm so defeated
>>345481437
its missiles do 8x more damage
>>345481570
because it's not 1:1 real
you'd be surprised how easy it is to bypass copyright/lisences in the legal world.
>>345481651
im by no means endorsing RHS or CU(CK)P
I know firsthand RHS is complete dogshit, and that has to do with american part literally has no quality control, and the RHS devs have a strong russian bias.
>>345481269
>he doesn't use the 6.5 guns
>>345481651
agreed. the only good thing from modders are scenarios and missions
>>345481845
The fact lockeed shills can't accept is that there is a .1% stealth will be relevant and that "legacy fighters" given comparable avionics would be cheaper and higher performance platforms for bombing goat fuckers
>>345481760
>Every single community server is running RHS
They're running CUP, and they're all life and wasteland servers if they aren't private communities.
Shows what you fucking know.
>>345482109
vanilla bullet damage for the 6.5mm weapons is 2shot chest kill with maximum bodyarmor.
If you want meme damage, you can use a simple custom file to make all your 5.56 toys hit harder.
>>345477568
>"modernized" A-10
>still has the Pave Penny pod that was made obsolete over 10 years ago when they started bringing the targeting pod instead, which has the same laser finder functionality but better
>today's A-10 aren't even equipped with it anymore, let alone future ones
ArmA creators/modders full of shit and are half informed with only superficial knowledge.
Arma is so fucking shit and the people who play it are cancer
Fuck you Kerri
>>345481269
>Game set in the future
>Modders completely disregard this and import stuff from the present/past
>"Futureshit dont get used, because the are simply too powerful or too far into the future."
Really?
Why not just mod in your own futureshit variants of already existing guns/vehicles so that things get more balanced instead of whine?
>>345482320
https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/1/
give them your valuable info they might even hire you
>>345481737
So an 8370 is 40$ cheaper than an i5-6600 but performs better. Why is that bait?
>>345482416
It's like I keep saying. Operation Arrowhead imported all the airsofters from Battlefield and CoD. The only setting they care about is SUPAH STRONK MURICA AND SAS CURBSTOMPING HELPLESS KEBAB AND UNDER-EQUIPPED INCOMPETENT SLAVS WHO HAVEN'T BEEN PAID IN SIX MONTHS.
>>345482015
>not having $1000 laying around to buy a next gen intel CPU with slightly better performance than skylake
It's like you don't even want to waste money
>>345482582
"arma in the only game that runs bad on AMD"
>>345481257
Glad I stumbled over these. They are great fun to play
>>345482286
for lvl 5 armor
actually it's 3 shot kill
2-3 shot with 7.62
2 shot 9.3 and 338
1 shot 408 and .50
>>345482727
I'm not the same person. I dont play on pc myself, but considering getting into it. Seems like everything I've read says certain games are better optimised for amd and some for intel
>>345482709
>still falling for the"incompetent conscripted poorly equipped/trained slav" meme
>>345482709
well, thats how it is in the real world, why play something that claims to be a milsim if the setting isnt accurate?
>>345483225
Because this is futureshit nigger, literally entire game is a "what if".
For all you know Erdogan supplied all those tanks and planes to the kebabs in the game.
>>345482725
4670K is $300 new, was $189 during sales
>>345483063
some games may indeed run better or at least be optimized for AMD GPUs not CPUs. it won't change in the future as predicted Zen performance in on the Haswell level aka 2 generation of CPUs behind Intel
Can someone tell me how much disc space the Apex DLC takes?
>>345483564
8-9 GB
>>345483152
>Implying they are anything other than completely neutered in the airsofter fantasy missions.
It doesn't help that they are almost invariably in a PvE scenario where the AI is almost defenseless.
>>345483225
But it's not, though. You'd have to be ignorant as fuck to think it would be a one-sided stomp. Hell, up until the 80's even the CIA projected us getting seal-clubbed in the long term by the USSR due to the huge disparity in numbers and industry. The only reason we won the cold war was economics and political instability. In an actual shooting conflict, on the tactical level, western forces actually had to lean heavily on 'force multipliers' to be symmetrical, with strategies designed around elastic defense and hoping the Russians over-extended their resources to the point that counter-offensives could be made.
While few will argue that the west doesn't have superior equipment and troops, Russians were 'good enough' and had more.
>>345483547
So why not save done cash and buy an amd cpu with faster refresh rate?
>>345479482
this
>>345483225
Actual "cold war gone hot" milsim would be dull as shit because you'd die most of the time. The predicted attrition rates for a symmetrical war are fucking horrible.
You don't get to do the helicopter shit becuase going higher than 6 feet off the floor is instadeath to tunguskas.
>>345479212
yes because the vanilla stuff is so good and not all tacticool bullshit right?
>>345477568
>Only ever played it for Battle Royal
>Or that 301st "Airborne" server, loved the fuck outta being overwatch in the Comanche look-alike.
>>345483832
AI is so defenseless that they shot my head off with a lynx from 1050m while I'm driving a strider@130km\h
>>345483940
you're too obvious now
>>345484103
install a mod that renames everything. or you can donate $10mil to devs so they would license this crap for autists like you
>tfw KOTH servers constantly pound my computer to 25-30fps or worse
>>345484298
shit computer or shit server or both
>>345484261
>amd offers better performance than intel for less money
>but intel is better
Intel shill pls go
>>345484261
>Have to crank the AI's 'skill' rating up so they will literally aimbot you for any semblance of actual challenge
>When they have almost zero coding for actual tactics and reaction to contact other than going prone.
>>345478463
>GAU-8 Avenger
>Obsolete
Air Force get out. Go be worthless somewhere else
>>345484478
it's on normal though
>>345484384
Its KOTH, it packs 100+ people into a small circle. Its mostly the server and just concept of having that many people and things going on.
I get 80+ in Battle Royale and Wasteland since everyone is spread the fuck around and its mostly just fields.
>>345480519
>Please. I play TvT exclusively
pffffffffff fucking dying here
>>345479212
>CoD-babbies crying that ArmA actually had a different timeframe
Who the fuck are you trying to fool?
Hell, if anything, ARMA 3 brought in more COD cancer than had ever existed. Do you think the fanbase that enjoyed OFP, ARMA 1 and 2 were really COD-babies?
ARMA 3 wanted more of the COD crowd, Bohemia made a big deal how they wanted ARMA 3 to be more 'accessable' and wanted mainstream gamers (COD crowd) to get in on it.
>>345484694
nah it's server bro. sure it lags when there are 120 people killing each other but it never dropped below 40 for me on 96 player server
>>345481096
Quality damage control from LM.
>>345484728
>Implying Operation Arrowhead faggots ever played the older games
I don't even think they know what 'ArmA' is an acronym for.
>inb4 panicked googling.
>>345482416
because futureshit is stupid, not fun, and not viable for large co ops. have you been paying attention or is someone going to have to restate this every 10 posts while this obnoxious faggot spergs out about muh arrowhead and muh airsoft for whatever reason.
>>345484728
>>345485149
>I'm a bigger hipster!
>no I am!
you're both retarded
>>345485420
It would of been fun if they went full future shit instead of taking out railgun tanks
>>345485420
retard
>>345484591
>less than 100mm of penetration at optimal range
>going through modern tanks
>f35 25mm APEX can take care of infantry and lightly armored vehicles just as well
:^)
>>345485524
good post
>>345485619
>fell for 25mm meme
>>345485424
Looks like the boot fits, faggot. Go play some Altis Life.
>>345485619
A10 damages morale more
>>345485768
good idea, never tried it
>>345485829
proofs?
>>345485497
futureshit will never be good. modern warfare is nothing but airstrikes and ieds.
>>345485619
>inplying the joke shit fighter has the ammo capacity or can afford to go low enough to risk damage
>/a3g/ dead
>mods break with literally every single patch
>client framerate still limited by server
>still runs like ass
Fuck you Bohemia.
It's still running as bad and as clunky as it did fifteen years ago when i played OFP. God damn it I just want it to be smooth.
>>345485829
Yeah, the pilots when it gets hit by a cheap fucking slavshit heat seeking MANPADS
>>345484478
>What is ASRAI 3
>What is Gaia Script
>What is enhanced AI skill editor
>>345481964
wait until the new zen cpu lineup from amd come out and compare the price/performance options with what intel is offering. seriously, just trust me.
that said i have an fx 6300 OC to 4.5GHz and i can't complain, i knew what i was getting. i get 80-100 fps in BF4 on high/ultra
>>345486141
>implying a-10 ever carries its full load of ammunition instead of needing a fueltank in it's place
>implying the A-10 didn't die 60%+ of every taskval mission it ran trying to use it's gun against manpad equipped enemies
>implying f-35 can't carry 2000lbs more weapons than the A-10
>implying the f-35 kinematics don't allow it to go lower and slower than A-10 if it wanted
fuck off sprey
>>345477568
Who /S.T.A.L.K.E.R/ here?
>>345485868
have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrhoYnpgm-g
and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKRt2DYMvdU
>scopes
>2016
lmao no
>>345486390
airsoftshit
>>345487009
none of that is empirical proofs. how does this outweigh the benefit of switching to a platform that can carry more weapons and is impervious to ground fire compared to A-10(an aircraft who's manufacturer is defunct)
>>345487152
Look dry runs and show of force. It's actually a tactic we used multiple times to root out enemy combatants. An A-10 in the area would fly in low and rev up the gun to give off the sound of it about to make a run. Enemies freak out and most of them start to run or stand up, or just overall act like retards that gives away exactly where they are allowing us to get a better indication of where they are and kill them
>>345485149
ArmA is not an acronym tho.
>>345488194
It's an acronym for Armed Assault
>>345488194
You are retarded
>>345488194
Wew lad. Fucking wew.
>>345488062
cool. now when you need to fight enemys at a strategic level what then. enjoy preventing a russian incursion into the balkans with >dry runs and >shows of force. They won't care and every precious A-10 is going to get nailed by a manpad or a buk day one. The Gun was useless in the gulf war when they tried to use it before emptying off their mavericks first they got shot down. just look at every a-10 shootdown case. the gun is the most useless feature on the aircraft. sure if your doing coin it's useful but even then you sacrifice strategic usability. A-10 has no purpose when f-35 can take on every task it does and do it better and then do and then more.
>>345486741
>>345485619
>falling for the meme that is the F35
>Next generation strike fighter that has no air superiority capabilities
>cannot adequately support infantry in any situation where the enemy would have entrenched defenses ranging from MG nests or even AA such as an amphibous assault on a beach head or even a well defended city
>Can't even take on an F-16 in a dog fight
>Can't even take on an "inferior" stealth fighter like the F-22
>Pilots hate it because they can't be in control enough to make appropriate decisions, let alone turn their head because the helmet is too TACTICOOL
And this is why specialized weaponry will always prevail over "jack of all trades" shit
>>345488389
>>345488506
>never heard of latin
>inb4 hipster
Think for a fucking second, why the fuck would you call the game ARMA: Armed Assault?
What's next? CoD: Call of Duty?
IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO THROW GRENADES OTHER THAN THE MLB CURVE BALL WAY
Going to get Arma soon, Any good videos on what i can expect?
>>345488668
>jack of all trades meme
fuck off sprey acolite. you can murmer platitudes to yourself all day and convince you of their use. but nearly every "sussessful" aircraft we have used in the past 50 years. would have been called a "jack of all trades" by cucks like you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtZNBkKdO5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyHlp7tJrxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31oJIo8EVwY
atleast try to not looik like a retard and educate yourself before parroting shit like
>Can't even take on an F-16 in a dog fight
and spewing baseless lies like
>Pilots hate it because they can't be in control enough to make appropriate decisions, let alone turn their head because the helmet is too TACTICOOL
>>345488959
walking simulator haha
no honestly have a good group of guys who can pull off some ghost recon 1-style coops
>>345488596
>Gun was useless in the Gulf War
>destroyed over 900 tanks, 1,200 artillery pieces, had a mission success rate of over 96% and performed so well that the Air Force scrapped the idea of replacing it with the F-16
>one pilot even shot down 2 helicopters with the GAU
>YEAH BUT LIKE A FEW TIMES IT SUCKED
>F35 can do everything!
>https://www.sott.net/article/315096-Fundamental-failure-Military-admits-F-35-fighter-doesnt-work-but-says-its-too-late-stop-400B-program
Seriously Air Force, go home. The most politicized military branch is also the most despised and laughed atassuming no one brings up Coast Guard AKA Junior League Navy
>>345488959
If you can find a decent TvT server like BECTI Seattle it's a pretty good time, but multiplayer is mostly dead unless you join an autism group and the autism groups only play PvE because they are carebears that can't play for shit and have all their 'tacticool' bullshit they practice weekly BTFO the moment they actually go against players that can fight back instead of retard AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aysAZvp4Po
>>345489326
>Multiplayer is mostly dead
>30,000+ players online daily
>>345489572
>95% of which are just roleplaying life servers
Shit actually relevant to ArmA gameplay is dead as fuck, Especially for american servers
>>345489190
>>destroyed over 900 tanks, 1,200 artillery pieces, had a mission success rate of over 96% and performed so well that the Air Force scrapped the idea of replacing it with the F-16
adorable. the vast majority of kills scored by the a-10 upwards of 90% were by way of the agm65 NOT THE GUN. I understand you played videogames to much and read far to little. but the gun has no practical use in conventional war with the mass proliferation of manpads and the incredible age of the A-10 airframes
>f35 carries more munitions
>f35 has better targeting in every way
>f35 has better controls durability
>f35 has the ability to attack radar emitters unlike a-10
>f35 can gather information better than the a-10
>f35 has better kinematics en every respect
>f35 can fight air targets more effectively than fighters of the a-10's gen
and it goes on and on
try again aspie
>>345488959
Which ArmA?
>>345489007
>L-lies all lies!
>post videos that has to try and redirect to avoid admitting the F-35 sucks
>Losing dog fights isn't true because it was a test about rudders!
>Look at all these simulations from Lockheed that totally haven't been proven wrong!
>Guys you just don't understand radar! Believe me please!
You F35 fags are pathetic
>F-35 keeps losing dog fights with no armaments or external add ones relying on simulated weaponry, against an F-16 that was weighed down by fuel bods and dummy weaponry
>"The helmets are big. In a flight test on Jan. 4, 2015, a pilot complained that their visor was bumping up against the canopy when they turned their head, according to a report leaked to War Is Boring. Despite these obvious dangers, the Pentagon has not launched any mannequins between 136 and 245 pounds — a weight range that most pilots would probably fall into — in sled tests."
>http://theweek.com/articles/605165/f35-still-horribly-broken
>>345490057
>all these simulations from Lockheed that totally haven't been proven wrong!
proofs))))
>Losing dog fights isn't true because it was a test about rudders!
they were testing command laws. try not to be so autistic
>F-35 keeps losing dog fights with no armaments or external add ones relying on simulated weaponry, against an F-16 that was weighed down by fuel bods and dummy weaponry
proofs))))))))))))
>Despite these obvious dangers, the Pentagon has not launched any mannequins between 136 and 245 pounds — a weight range that most pilots would probably fall into — in sled tests."
cute story but old and proven false forever ago. they have been sled testingf for awhile now. and have show that those under 136lbs are at risk of injury. they also tested older designs such as the f-18 and found it had similar problems
please try again without spewing RT propaganda at me aspie :^)
>>345489326
Yeah i hear that a lot of the player base are only interested in having a tacticool character and shooting A.I
>>345489979
Im not sure. I hear 2 is good, mostly from threads like this, but i might get 3 to team up with some friends.
>>345490649
ArmA 2 doesn't have too many players anymore, and the editor is shit. The game is really clunky too.
I'd suggest that you get ArmA 3. It has a much better 3D Editor for making your own scenarios easily, better graphics, gameplay, a much more active community, and it has the Steam Workshop where you can get the Community Upgrade Project mods which basically port all the maps, weapons, and vehicles from ArmA 2 into ArmA 3.
>>345489913
>Has no practical use
>is used to destroy enemy emplacements
>is used to shred enemy infantry
>is used to disable light armor and vehicles
>is used to decrease enemy morale
>is used to increase troop morale
It must be really hard being as dumb as you
>F35 carries more munitions
And yet still manages to get outperformed
>F35 has better targeting
Again, no point if it gets outperformed and can't even support troops on the ground
>F35 has better controls durability
Apparently not as good as an F16
>F35 can attack radar emitters, gather information
Yeah and then get routed or blown out of the sky by Su's and even F-16s
>F35 has better kinematics
K
>F35 can fight air targets more effectively than fighters of the A-10 generation
Wow, that's amazing. A stealth fighter that can dog fight better than a slow tank buster. What's next? It loses against a multi-role fighter from the 70's?
>>345490423
Way to not understand that the helmet has been through like 3 different design variations kid.
>le f-35 meme
>>345491104
>F-35 fags are so BTFO that they had to make this bingo chart.
>>345490990
>And yet still manages to get outperformed
by what
>Again, no point if it gets outperformed and can't even support troops on the ground
see above
>Apparently not as good as an F16
> It loses against a multi-role fighter from the 70's?
please stop parroting the warisboring meme friendo. it makes you look retarded tbqh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9re9tJckTlk
>Yeah and then get routed or blown out of the sky by Su's and even F-16s
>Yeah and then get routed or blown out of the sky by Su's and even F-16s
please stop flashing your stupidity. at least try to have some basic understanding of modern air combat before you let shit from RT brainwash you
>>345484591
>>345478503
It's true. It can't even penetrate a T-60 from the front.
>>345491470
That's why you shoot it from behind/above.
Where did the A-10 is the god's plane meme start
>>345491470
>fireworks sized explosions and dust
>didn't actually score a direct hit on either of them
Both of those guys probably survived.
>>345490423
>proofs
I posted the links already, dumbass. But just for you I'll post them again
https://warisboring.com/test-pilot-admits-the-f-35-can-t-dogfight-cdb9d11a875#.yu6no0v1m
And heres some extra
https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/01/heres-what-ive-learned-so-far-dogfighting-in-the-f-35-a-jsf-pilot-first-hand-account/
>RT propoganda
Is that what the Air Force tells itself at night?
I have no doubt the F35, if it ever gets finished, will make an excellent replacement for the F18 or maybe just lightly take over some of the F22s roles. But in no way is this plane going to knock the A-10 or the F16 out of it's roles. And those are planes that are old as hell and need to be replaced by something bigger and better, they have no business going up against another modern military in maybe very select occasions (A-10 moreso than the F-16). It has no air superiority capabilities, and it cannot support troops on the ground in almost all occasions where having air support would be absolutely vital.
>>345477568
>buy arma 3 july 2nd
>35 fps on low
>good enough
>apex comes out
>10 fps or lower everywhere
thanks for letting me waste 60 bucks bohemia fucks sake
>>345491768
I don't know, ask the infantry serving in afghanistan and iraq who started it.
>air force sends F-16 for support
>drops two bombs, bingo fuel, runs home, enemies come out of hiding
>air force sends A-10
>2 hours of loiter time, infantry untouchable for the rest of the operation
>enemy shits their pants as soon as they hears the BRRRRRRRT
Do you people not realize not too long we were having this same shit flinging argument over the F-16?
>>345490990
>Apparently not as good as an F16
desperate sprey fags will actually believe this
>f-35 has similar kinematics to the f-16 wen the f16 is in it's airshow load out
>with full weapons loadout f-16 is kinematicaly inferior
>f-16 only 10-15 minutes of fuel in hard combat without it's drop tanks
>f35's radar is 2.6 times better than the f16
>f-35 is easily 100 times more stealthy than f-16
>f35 has the best passive rwr sensor suite around.
>>345491859
>warisboring
you should start posting some ausairpower too to show even more how much of an under educate retard you are friend. I'm sure he will agree with you butter if you do.
Anyone want to do an escape altis or dynamic ops server?
>>345492031
>The infantry begin moving
>Get blown up by an IED
>>345491768
The A-10 has one job and does it very well. No one is arguing that the A-10 can do everything. But F35 shitters are so desperate for future shit that they'll overlook evidence, ignore facts and make excuses all day like>>345491424 does because they are the same retards that fall for the same "It will do everything" meme that got the F22 through production.
>F18 Hornet
You have good taste anon
>>345492069
Don't worry m8 these people read war is boring and theaviationist. they know more about aircraft than you ever could.
>>345492162
>F-15
>CAS
Those poor souls.
>>345492031
If you want to jerk off to loiter time, get a B-1b or Predator.
>>345492195
>The A-10 has one job and does it very well
shooting tanks rushing though the fulda gap. it never did that very well . and it's best tank busting weapon the agm65 is obsolete and can be carried by just about anything. whats it's role?
>>345492290
?
Any aircraft with accurate weapons can do the role, according to the Air Force at least.
>>345492195
Nigga that's an F-15
>>345492290
f-15e strike eagle. the thing was literally rushed to service durring the gulf war and did fantastic ever since. f-15e is fantastic as a cas platform
>>345492307
>4 engines under the wing
What a beautiful MANPAD target.
beaker breaker over
need to re fuel
>>345492621
Shh anon only the meme A-10 can do cas
What's that fancy new Russian fighter that has two seats and a full size cabin that even has a shitter in it?
Any NA bros wanna do some workshop missions? I have all of the dlcs CUP, RHS, ACE, Alive.
>>345485149
Nigga I loved operation flash point
>>345492587
Sorry, I saw the twin engines in the thumbnail and assumedstill good taste
>>345492693
Yeah. They should have gotten a low and slow A-10. :^)
>>345491424
I think you're definitely right on every point, but the A10 probably isn't going to go away. It's a fairly durable aircraft and has what most fighter aircraft lack and that's loiter time. In the past they've sought to use fighters for all close air support roles but it didn't work because the planes would zoom out and have to make wide turns at higher speeds which created a greater delay between runs.
War with Russia and China doesn't really matter because there's still plenty of missions for it to run against much lesser forces, and its armaments are more than enough to defeat the vehicles they're fielding. The proliferation of SAMs hasn't beaten it yet. And yea it's not going to perform in strategic attacks, but that's also not why it was built.
>>345492737
su34 best part is is that the "shitter" is just a suction tube apparently
>>345492737
Su-34?
Isn't really new
>>345488730
It's even capitalized "ArmA" for "Armed Assault", you fucking mong.
>>345492936
So you shove it up your ass?
>f35
>>345492870
I still don't understand how is it a stealth plane when you can see it perfectly.
help
>>345493061
I think its more like you gently cup your asshole
>>345493075
Fuck off dumb ace combat shitters
>>345477568
Who /ChernarusApocalypse/ here?
>>345493018
It stands for Armies of America, you idiot.
>>345493123
You can set the launcher to close itself automatically when you launch the game.
>>345492346
>no other aircraft can fly as low as the A-10, take the amount of abuse, and deliver a payload to destroy targets, and stay in the area, and give infantryman that fuzzy feeling and morale boost like the A-10 can
>it has no role
Spare the "but this one time" shit. Even Cassius Clay lost some fights.
Can't wait to have this same convo in a couple of decades over a 6th generation aircraft and the new generation jerking off to the F-35. We will probably be shitting on AI's controlling the jets by then.
>>345493414
The point of stealth air craft like the F-22, B-2, and F-35 is to never even engage the enemy. The F-35 is needed for missions that will come after a first strike done by something like a B-2 where enemy air defenses and or MANPADs are still a threat.
>>345493454
Well, of course. All anyone considers is their pet plane and how it performs better in area A, B, and C, all the while ignoring why aircraft remain in service, the difficulty of switching them out, the increased costs of replacement, etc. etc.
>>345493581
And that's fantastic and all, but trying to confuse it's roles is completely retarded. You wouldn't send an F-35 to do an A-10s job and vic versa just like you would send in Airwingers to do EOD, or put a NASCAR in an F1 circuit.
>>345493414
>no other aircraft can fly as low as the A-10, take the amount of abuse
plenty of aircraft can fly that low and take similar abuse. A-10's don't have a history of taking SAM's well just like every other plane. they can resist 23mm to an extent thats about it. also irrelivant when modern craft don't need to get low to drow small diamater bomb2's
>and stay in the area
This is about the only one I'll give you the A-10 has long loiter time because of it's weak engines unfortunately that also means reaction time to needs is bad
>and give infantryman that fuzzy feeling and morale
b1b's give similar feelings tbqh. the effect on target vs risk to craft is more important.
Ultimately you are tqalking about a craft that exists purely for coin. when you could simply buy a cheaper aircraft that isnt 40 years old and out of production to do it cheaper.
>>345493084
I'm not >>/k/ or anything so I may be wrong but isn't the point of stealth planes to reflect radar attempting to detect them. That's why they are fully plated?
>>345493454
>tfw you will live long enough to shitfling on the internet at random faggots over who's 10th generation invisijet is superior
>>345493840
>b1b's give similar feelings tbqh
>buy a cheaper aircraft that isnt 40 years old and out of production to do it cheaper.
Got bad news for you.
>>345493581
that's only early in a war. when it comes to needing craft for strike interdiction and cas the f35 can do it all. Remember the f-35 with its wing pilons carries 2000lbs more ordinance than the A-10 and it's gun is just as effective vs light vehicles and infantry.
>>345493757
Of course not. But the thing is that an F-35 CAN do a strike missions. It carries similar payloads (Sometimes superior) to existing comparable aircraft, and its sensors and situational awareness are leaps and bounds better than anything that is currently operational. Also I'm not that original Anon.
>>345477568
>ruining the sexiest aircraft design by making it edgy and tacticool
Whyyyyyyyyyy
>>345494015
wasd only using the b1b as an example of a high loiterer bomb taxi having similar effect on morale. If you need something the get low and tingle your mens ball hair you might aswell use a super tucano or literally anything less out of date and lacking replacements than the fairchild a-10
Never knew so many aviation and air warfare experts browsed /v/.
>>345494250
also as a note im only talking about coin which is the only use the a-10 has anymore tbqh. full modern airwar they would get nailed by surface to air missiles fast thesedays
>>345494250
Trust me, there's nothing like getting support from an A-10. Seeing it coming in low, seeing a treeline or house get reduced to dust, and hearing the BRRRRRRT is almost magical. Granted it's no different than standing around and having an F-16 drop a payload on the building from high up, same results different method. But it really is something else. I'd say it's kind of like the M240 of planes. It's old. There's better shit out there. But something about a big bulky bastard that dishes out metal hate in a special way is keeping it around
Holy fuck. So many Lockheed F-35 shills in this thread.
How much do they pay you faggots?
>they didnt go full future with lasers and plasma weaponry
Damn shame
>>345494250
They don't need to be replaced, anon. Saying oh well this aircraft is 1 million dollars less to acquire denies the fact that we've already acquired the A10 fleet. Yes, if we were losing them we'd have a problem, but we're not. I don't know what the cost of maintenance is, though. That might make a huge difference. The US can probably manage without, though.
>>345494780
Something something prepare today for the war tomorrow
>>345493840
The A-10 was designed for low speed, so it has far better maneuverability at its ideal speed than supersonic fighters/multirole aircraft trying to fly at low speed. Look up corner speed. An A-10 will outturn an F-15, 16, 18 or most other aircraft at low speed.
And you can't do CAS at mach 1.5 since you will breeze past the target before you can even look at it closely.
The A-10 also doesn't give a fuck about manpads, because of its high engine placement and wings covering it from below, flares are far more effective if it gets fired upon since the missile usually won't have a clear target on the engines. And even if it gets hit, it can limp home with half a wing blown away.
>>345494357
>experts
>Air combat games are either way to arcadey or to realistic that unless you sperg out for 100 hours to master you won't be any good
>developers don't care about that good balance with the added weight and feel to the maneuverability that made Ace Combat and even fucking sci fi shit like Rogue Squadron games and the like so much fun
>Ubisoft may have very well killed Air Combat games with that HAWX shit
>>345494650
Literally what's the point in playing arma for the aircraft. Just play fucking DCS or BMS
>>345494650
>ArmA trying to do realistic air combat
Nice video, that's closer to the enemy aircraft than even world war II fighter guns' ideal range.
>>345494929
You can do CAS at mach 1.5 because you can acquire the target well before you pass over it, all you do then is use CCRP when the pod is lasing over it
>>345494982
>tfw DCS only has arcade mode modern fighters
>Falcon 4 is too outdated, even with BMS
DCS F-18 fucking when
>>345494974
Just try to get into DCS lad. It's not even that hard and Flaming Cliffs 3 is fucking retard proof, especially if all you do is fly the F-15
>>345494929
>The A-10 also doesn't give a fuck about manpads
Yeah, that is why none have ever been shot down! Oh wait.. Gulf war/Iraq war..
>>345494929
>And even if it gets hit, it can limp home with half a wing blown away
>And even if it gets hit, it can limp home with half a wing blown away
So can almost any 2 engine jet fighter.
>Can't do CAS at mach 1.5
This is why you have sensors/computers doing all of that for you.
>>345494974
Idk, War Thunder is decent if you don't want it to be too realistic or too arcady
>>345494974
Flaming Cliffs 3
>>345495206
>retard proof, especially if all you do is fly the F-15
Su-27fag jelly of my AIM-120 detected
>>345494902
New weapons are in development, that doesn't mean they're going to replace every outdated aircraft. A balance can be achieved.
>>345494650
NICE VIEW DISTANCE
>>345495190
>arcade mode modern fighters.
I'll give you that for the FlamingFlaming cliffs fighters at least.
The M2KC is modern however.
The older shit is more fun to play anyway, F-5 and F-14 soon m800>>345495293
War Thunder is shit because of the grind.
>>345495350
Flaming Cliffs is a good stepping stone into proper DCSor you can stay an F-15 shitter like most of the community and occasionally fly the A-10
>>345495375
>Fly to 30k
>Loose all my 120s in TS
>Split S when they go pit bull
This all I see F-15 pilots do, the more fun missions take away the amraam and we see more fun dogfights purely because the Eagles have to try
>>345495293
War Thunder is shit. You're at fucking disadvantage for using a joystick.
What FoV are you guys playing at?
Tried changing it to 100 and I think it makes some scopes bugged.
>>345495110
>>345495221
It's not that simple in real life.
Often the infantry you're supporting is only going to give you a verbal description of the target, and you will have to spot landmarks leading you on the target which is best done with the good old Mark I Eyeball.
The targeting pod is literally tunnel vision and will never give you a good overlook of the land around you. An A-10 circling at slow speeds will have a much easier time finding targets than some F-16 looking at the land with the TGP.
>>345495661
Did you steal this webm from me in an older thread family
>>345491797
Do you know how explosives work?
Even if the pressure from the explosion didn't kill them, the shrapnel did.
>>345495642
I wish I was on my computer so I could respond to you with my MiG 21 webms of me killing F-15s :^)
>>345495475
Grind isn't even bad until you research Jets and some later Tier IV vehicles
>>345495642
>You're at fucking disadvantage for using a joystick.
Only in Arcade or Realistic Battles
>>345495475
Not a big fan of the mirage. It's too light, it can barely pack some weapons.
>>345495756
And this is why the EOTS was developed.
>>345495814
It's just a bullet, not a grenade autocannon.
it's probably meant to ignite the gas if it hits the gas tank on some light armored vehicle, I doubt the explosion does anything serious.
>>345495828
I fly the Baguette and you would be BTFO before you even saw me
>>345480235
Yeah, just because some fucking model of something existed at one point doesn't mean it'd ever make it to common use, or should be in an ARMA game.
Gyrojet pistols and rifles existed, doesn't mean they should be in the game because there's a half baked prototype of something somewhere.
>>345495885
I fucking love it. What's not to like about being literally unbeatable in the merge, but also good enough that the enemy has problems keeping you from getting there
>>345491797
30mm rounds used on personnel are usually high explosive. Movies always depict them as massive fireballs, like they do with grenades, but really it's the shrapnel that kills them. They're dead.
>>345495661
>tfw the A-10 is so strong it can even kill the Batman
>>345496101
?
They use HE rounds on non anti armor missions.
>>345496102
You're telling me this like I've never killed a mirage on DCS before. Just the other day I took on 2 in my 21 and not only did I come back unscathed but I scored a kill with a heater
>>345495789
no but im gonna steal that one
>>345496101
I really don't think you understand what can be packed into a 30mm round.
>>345496261
Please name them properly or you will trigger me
>>345480764
>people were getting bored of playing the same shit over and over again since flashpoint.
Then why are 95% of the mods for the game literally turning back the clock and cutting out all the future shit?
Fucking every mod pack for every group is RHS and ACE3, m4s and aks packs, modern US and Russian vehicles because the fucking ARMA fanbase does not want future shit, they want contemporary shit.
Take a look and it directly refutes your assessment.
>>345495756
Better than an a-10 desu
>>345496340
Still, it's not a grenade or rocket, just an explosive bullet meant to do a bit more damage when it hits someone. It probably just burns your skin a bit if it explodes near you.
How is controller support for arma with regards to flying about?
Can i switch seamlessly between KB and M with out the game sperging out
>>345496340
People also think that explosives work like they do in videogames.
The pressure wave from a burst of 30mm HE is probably enough to kill anyone within a dozen foot radius
>>345496561
Ah so you're just retarded then.
>>345496561
Holy fuck you're dense. I read a book about apace crews in Afghan and one said the rounds landed around a bloke and turned him into a smear
Is DCS ever going to have proper rocket/gun damage against infantry?
I'm sick of strafing two jeeps with 2 guys standing next to them, and all the infantry surviving since you need to literally score a direct hit with HE rocket/HEI gun to kill them.
Where my DCS bros at thenwhat teams are you on for Blue Flag
>>345496591
>pressure wave
Don't even think the resident retard would know what that is. Probably watched too many Micheal Bay movies and think it's only the fire that kills everyone in an explosion.
>>345490649
ARMA 2 is pretty much dead at this point with ARMA 3 out. Only thing still kicking is the DayZ mod because that's actually better than the Standalone.
>>345496802
If they jump fast enough the pressure wave will just push them on the ground
>>345480183
Then just don't use the thermals
>>345496561
Dude, a .50BMG sears flesh if it even passes by 6 inches from you. And pelts you with shrapnel if it hits the ground with you. Won't kill you unless it hits you because then it absolutely destroys you. If a .50BMG can do that, then a 30mm can do a whole lot more damage.
>>345490975
>>345496759
Thanks for the info, i'll just get ARMA3 then.
>>345496868
Could this be the revival of troll physics?
>>345496980
>Dude, a .50BMG sears flesh if it even passes by 6 inches from you
>>345496561
>It probably just burns your skin a bit if it explodes near you.
That just confirms that you're retarded.
if they had their surf boards with them they could ride the pressure waves and be fine
>>345496980
Does that the shooter will burst into flames after a few shots unless he holds the gun at the end of a long pole?
If I buy an ARMA, which is the best to buy for online play?
>>345497194
squad
>>345496454
That looks like it could fly slower and have much better aim.
Jet engines feel like a meme sometimes.
>>345497194
>If I buy an ARMA, which is the best to buy for online play?
At this point, it's ARMA 3 or nothing.
I can't even really recommend ARMA 2 for only DayZ mod since that's also dying a slow and painful death.
>>345497326
I guess I'll do that then. I'm getting tired of Red Orchestra 2 Rising Storm all the time.
Are all the expansions needed?
>>345497325
The A-10 has a lower top speed than the Bf-109.
In fact there's a screenshot of a 109 shooting down an A-10 in DCS floating about
>>345497472
To be fair the bf109 was a pretty rugged and fast plane. It could still be quite the menace in the modern world.
>>345497325
It does
And it's gun is turreted so it just putts around in circles raining death
>>345497658
I'd love to see any of the Korean or WWII era planes in DCS shoot down an F-15. I know it could happen too because most of the Eagle drivers you see online are fucking terrible
>>345497708
Lovely. I could see these being much cheaper and easier to train pilots for. I seriously don't know why we don't have a mixed arsenal of loads of cheap but effective equipment for shock and awe purposes.
It would send quite the message to have a lot of these piloted by remote control even.
>it's a /v/ criticizes a mod platform and compares it to dissimilar games thread
It was dead before it even started.
>>345497926
US military made two new ones named ov-11s and have been using them in syria/iraq with special forces
Apparently its doing well
>>345488838
Try using ACE3
Am I being a pleb if I only enjoy flying aircarft with a glass cockpit?
If I can't fiddle with a monitor or two, I feel claustrophobic and feel I don't have situational awareness.
>>345497752
Yep I could see it happening. It really seems like to be it'd be better to have a lot of semi-good pilots flying older cheaper aircraft then spending billions on shit that will never see daylight.
>>345498078
Nice. I should look for videos. I could easily imagine it doing very well.
>>345496658
or go look for the turkey coup helicopter gunning down a crowd some people body parts were mushed.
>>345497708
wish this was in arma
>>345498124
Comfy dials is where it's at. I love taking the F-16 out in BMS but the MiG 21 is too much fun to fly in DCS
>>345498124
I used to be the opposite. I dislike cockpits but after awhile I couldn't live without them because its hard to tell whats going on without all those instruments.
>>345498203
I was dicking around with some friends months ago and my MiG 15 was keeping up with a Su-27 in a turning fight, so I could certainly see it happening
>>345497458
They're not 'needed', but I'd recommend getting into a group like AKB or Broma. I mean, you can just do Wasteland and KOTH, but the real meat and potatoes is those sort of group ops.
>>345498420
Mig-15 is a nice machine. Nice job though.
>>345498496
Alright thanks a lot. Well being a poorfag I'll need to save up but I think it'll be worth it on those days I don't have much to do.
>>345480351
>being sued for some helicopter bullshit in bf3
Please elaborate? I legit haven't heard about that.
>>345480523
No, A-10s are good at close air support, because they can fly low and slow to take out danger close enemies with its gun. An F35 could only just zip past, drop a bomb, and probably kill all the friendlies on the ground as well.
>>345498529
Im not even that good of a pilot but being outclassed is where I excel when fighting in that game somehow.
I do better in the MiG 21 than the Mirage
>>345496561
Do you have even the slightest idea what explosions are actually like?
Here's a hint, Rambo isn't exactly true to life
>>345498729
That situation would happen to the F-35 if the platoon commander didn't consider safety distances for CAS and was therefore a retard
I remember buying supporter edition of Arma 3 and got my name in the credits but I hardly play this game anymore.
Maybe I should try Apex.
>>345498793
Do you even realize that it's just a bullet, not a 1000 pound bomb? You can only fit a tiny amount of explosives into a bullet, only enough to do a bit more damage on a direct hit.
>Have a good group of tacticool dudes who do milsim shit but actually fucking get that it's about having fun first, so the autism of "yes, sir, no, sir" is kept to a minimum
>Mission maker is a talented forty-year-old
>HR guy is a forty-year-old ex-Marine truck driver who plays with us from a laptop inside whatever place he's leeching wifi from that night
>Leader was a tank commander
>Comfy as FUCK kebab removal
>Everyone in charge literally sucking my dick, trying to get me to become a team lead
Feels fucking comfy, dudes.
>>345481096
>strengthens the economy
brb gonna break some windows.
>>345499003
tell me what unit so I can join and cuck you
>>345496129
But there's nothing unbelievable in ArmA 3. Most of the 'futureshit' you airsofting faggots are lambasting has been around, and in some cases commonly used, for almost 20 years. Most 'muh modern warfare' shit has been around since the 60's and 70's. it's old as fucking dirt. The only reason we still use it is because the threat of a WW3 isn't present. If we thought we'd seriously have to worry about fighting in a real modern war, we'd still be developing shit at breakneck speeds like we were in the cold war, and 'modern' tech would basically be the bullshit you see in ArmA 3 right now, most of which isn't widely adopted simply because there is no pressing need to upgrade existing equipment; Not because said tech is bad or anything.
>>345498986
a 30mm cannon round is like a frag grenade only a bit smaller
>>345478958
Even if a server were to host it
I doubt you could find the players for one side.
>>345499291
It's not a cannon, it's just a bullet from a chaingun.
There is a huge difference between a 30mm grenade and a 30mm bullet, since in the bullet's case only the casing is 30mm wide, the projectile itself is much smaller.
>>345499003Group and games? I've been dying to find a good group to get back in Arma3 and Siege with since all my friends have turned into DOTA shitters
>>345498986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLLDi-M3fk
And that's just old as shit 30mm.
>this big of an Arma 3 thread
>but if an arma general was posted on /vg/ it would be shitposted to death by an anime smug meme poster
>>345497458
The Marksman expansion is the only one I'd recommend getting. All the others are either only really good if you want to pilot those vehicles. And Tanoa, probably.
>>345499449
It's literally a 30mm cannon you thick fuck.
The shells have HE filler and so there's a reason there's a considerable safety distance given to platoon commanders in their TAM. I'd dig mine out but they're in my kit in another building
>>345499449
Yeah, but there are 30 of those bullets exploding in a second.
So the explosion would be 30 times larger.
>>345499695
That's not how it works, explosion is not additive.
If a 30mm grenade is lethal from 10 meters and a 30mm bullet from an A-10 is lethal from 2 meters, then 1000 30mm bullets are still only lethal from 2 meters close.
>>345499449
Also, it's fucking clear that you understand nothing to weapons, their designation or even how they work. But you're still here, talking about shit you don't know like you're fucking weapon jesus or something.
Fuck you.
>>345499451http://75thrangersghostplt.enjin.com/
There's an expectation that you take the group mildly seriously, and it can get goofy at times, but the place really does come across as just a bunch of guys trying to have fun together. The guys in charge by managing shit, the pilots by not hovering in place and the grunts by having something to do. We also just went through a big growth spurt and finally got two squads together again, with a third to come, probably.
>>345499882
I'm literally cringing at you calling them bullets. You've so far proven nothing but the fact you're too fucking stupid to understand just how lethal a 30mm HE shell is
>>345499451
I'd recommend AKB as long as you can get their mods to work, which I've been having problems with since Apex went online.
>>345499538
/a3g/ and the people who posted in it moved on.
The non-shitters got herded together by the least shitty person in the group, who took charge after it disbanded, and the shitters were kicked out. They still play together, as far as I know, just as a smaller group.
>>345499882
Explosions are additive.
You don't know anything at all.
If you think explosions work in real life like they do in videogames, youre retarded
>>345499972
>I'm literally cringing at you calling them bullets.
Then what does it look like to you?
>>345478937
i hate those stupid fucking servers as much as anyone else, but to be fair they have been around since the original ofp
i am still pissed that cti is now fucking dead
>>345488730
One Word: Wine
This means Wine is not an emulator
>>345497326
Oh cool someone used my webm.
Anyone at all wanna do an operation?
How do I get into ARMA?
Should I and how can I convince friends to play with me?
>>345500404
Asking a question like with am image like that, the answer is: you shouldnt
>>345500124
> non-shitters got herded together by the least shitty person in the group, who took charge after it disbanded, and the shitters were kicked out.
You mean the beta team just made a splinter group from the original shitshow that was neo-a3g.
>>345499476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLLDi-M3fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLLDi-M3fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLLDi-M3fk
Look at this video you autistic fuck, i don't care if you call them bullet or dildo but look at that and i dare you to say that would just "burn" you or some retarded shit like that.
>>345500356
You mean "WINdows Emulator" :)
>>345500404
Do the showcases and acquaint yourself with the weapons and vehicles. Having surface knowledge about the military helps to identify them in the field.
Then hop onto a KOTH server and play battlefield 3, shitty controls edition.
>>345500376
>Anyone at all wanna do an operation?
I would but I've been pulling my hair out trying to get mod packs to work again, namely CBA is fucking with me since APEX came out.
>>345500735
You using the workshop or downloaded CBA?
>>345500404
I'd suggest trying to find a group and doing ops with them and see how you like it.
Yeah, you can try your hand at Wasteland and KOTH, but those aren't the greatest example of what ARMA can be unless you can come upon that rare server where people are actually talking and communicating and thinking things through.
>>345497458
no, only get Apex if you end up enjoying the game enough to justify getting it.
>>345498981
I don't know what you play, but Tanao PvE ops are very fun, especially with how they changed the AI
>>345499451
AKB and TMTM are american time friendly units
(the latter is probably going to be filled with some memers as OnlyAfro is a part of it)
Broma and COFFEE are euro time friendly unitsI can only speak for Broma, but having played alongside TMTM and COFFEE in joint ops they seem alright
>>345500376
gotta love how people ragdoll when they die now
>>345500147
>>345499882
Not even that guy, but that is really not how explosions work. The impulse of an explosion is dependent on the initial amount of explosive, not the number of explosions occurring in a series.
TL;DR If you set off 1000 HE 30mm shells at the exact same time, yes you do get a much larger explosion. However, the chaingun doesn't fire 100 shells all at once, so the cumulative explosive force is equal to a singular HE 30mm shell.
>this thread
>when you want to talk about guns but the most you know about guns is from Monster Hunter
i can feel the cancer bros and we aren't even on the gun board.
Quick,
post fun mission objective ideas
I need help thinking what to do
>>345501570
Singleplayer, multiplayer, coop, map?
>>345501671
COOP on Tanoa 20-30 people
>>345501715
Firebase defense 'nam style.
>>345501570
Saving a downed pilot in the middle of a booby-trapped city with insurgents that won't hesitate to fuck someone's day up.
Tripwires in doorways. Explosives you detonate through Zeus ten meters in front of the first guy. Guys with RPGs on rooftops who have no qualms shooting them at soft targets. Reinforced buildings that they groan when they see and just want to collapse with explosives but know they have to clear.
Make them hate the fucking town.Then shoot down the evac chopper near another town so they have to grab a civilian vehicle and book it with an armored column a kilometer away.
>>345501570
Your country is being invaded by muslim rapefugees. Stop them at the border. Some of them are armed.
>>345502353
>Tfw /a3g/ had an actual Turk make a few missions for them
>They were either playing as the terrorists or as ragtag mercenaries on dirtbikes hunting terrorists using AKs with optics taped to them
>>345492742
If you've got all of that get SMA as well, some of my mates and I run RHS DUWS pretty often. We're in Straya but one of us plays fine from Canada so there shouldn't be any issues. Name on steam is Fuzzle
>all this f35 is the fututre shit
why hasn't the military just gone fuck it and made a fancy expensive drone that doesn't need to keep some human inside of it instead so they can cram more SCIENCE into it?, he can sit in his tin can at base telling this fancy model airplane what to do like the other drone pilots
is it just the same thinking as having a pilot in a commercial airplane as a "just incase"
>>345484252
BR is the best shit anyways
except when everyone has a bad landing and 1 person ends up killing 5 because no one gets any loot. Its why I hate Stratis. Bozcaada is the best map.
>>345477786
I like how children think the people making ARMA 3 are doing it for free.
>>345501570
>Tanoa
>start in the middle of the jungle
>eternal night and high chance of rain
>no maps and minimal ammo and supplies
>everyone only has flashlights
>NVGs,maps and vehicles can only be found in caches in a heavily fortified enemy base
>make some areas filled with landmines
>only way to know the location of boats besides finding them (obviously well defended by enemies) is intel found on high ranking officers only found at the heart of heavily fortified bases
>objective: get off the island
You probably won't live, but it'll be an incredibly fun mission of trying to stay alive as you stumble across the island struggling to survive.
>>345477568
Why would they do that to an A10?
Making something boxy doesn't improve aerodyanics, it hinders it. I feel like they were going with an overly "futuristic" theme and looked to shit like the F117, but the only reason the F117 had all those edges on it was because computers at the time weren't good enough to simulate anything that wasn't made of a handful of triangles
>>345503228
>NVGs, maps and vehicles can only be found in caches in heavily fortified enemy bases*
>>345496571
Yes, although honestly controller can be a bit finicky if you're not emulating it
>>345503298
the fuck are you talking about? the f117 looks like that because a russian wrote a paper/article on how to defeat radar and we tried it and it worked
>>345503298
>was because computers at the time weren't good enough to simulate anything that wasn't made of a handful of triangles
>>345503298
Bullshit, the F117 was designed like that because the air force wanted a super edgy aircraft.
>>345501962
>Tripwires in doorways
people bitch when they get killed by this
>Explosives you detonate through Zeus ten meters in front of the first guy
people would bitch and be justified
>Guys with RPGs on rooftops who have no qualms shooting them at soft targets.
all you would have to do is program your own ai! since they normally won't shoot rockets at anything but vehicles.
not the guy who originally asked for the record.
>A-10 vs F-35 thread again
It's like arguing lagers vs. stouts
>>345503968
The difference is that lagers are great at CAS while stouts suck at it.
>>345503550
The B-2 spirit utilized the same principles and didn't look like a jagged mess
>>345501570
Co-op on Tanoa.
One squad of people vs a much larger sized force controlling a drug manufacture area.
Think the little south american outpost in Predator. And run that scenario.
>>345503865
>>345503550
>>345504167
>Radar Cross Section reduction as a result of shape had already been observed on the Royal Air Force's Avro Vulcan strategic bomber, and the USAF's F-117 Nighthawk. The F-117 used flat surfaces (faceting technique) for controlling radar returns as during its development (see Lockheed Have Blue) in the early 1970s, technology only allowed for the simulation of radar reflections on simple, flat surfaces; computing advances in the 1980s made it possible to simulate radar returns on more complex curved surfaces.Rich 1994, p. 21. The B-2 is composed of many curved and rounded surfaces across its exposed airframe to deflect radar beams. This technique, known as ''continuous curvature'', was made possible by advances in computational fluid dynamics+, and first tested on the Northrop Tacit Blue.
>>> in the early 1970s, technology only allowed for the simulation of radar reflections on simple, flat surfaces
>>345503439
Just did the fixed wings showcase with mouse and KB. was pretty fun
downloading more plane missions
>>345488668
I honestly thought the U.S. would have learned it's lesson after the Sheridan tank debacle.
>>345503924
That's why you make them visible and give them some sort of warning to look out for them.
The intention was to blow it so at the most one guy gets injured and they all get spooked, not killed.
Again, spooking them with a suicidal haji fifteen meters away pointing an RPG at them.
>>345504686
>make stealth bomber
>a drunk hungarian who got lost and found himself in the serbian military shoots it down with 30 years outdated equipment
![a10_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kagxG5R.jpg "a10 2[1]")
