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Which MMO should I get into?
Nevermind that, what game is in the OP?
>>345431564
Mmo is dead
:(
Pokemon mmo
>>345431564
I miss skyforge
>>345431849
No you don't
>>345431564
Jaggy ass
None of them.
there are none
>>345431564
Board Game Online
>>345431849
Some of the classes in Skyforge like the gunner and berserker or monk seemed pretty fun. But I literately uninstalled the game when I found out what the class unlock system was. That shit was absurd.
>>345432228
I think you mean tabletop simulator anon
Is Skyforge f2p?
>>345431564
You should not get into MMO's.
>>345431564
P O L Y G O N S
>>345431564
One with anti-aliasing
Everquest can be fun,if you have someone to play with
>tfw you're friend seemed semi-interested in it but you don't want to bug them about it
Being socially inept is a curse.
>>345431564
stay far the fuck away from Black Desert
shit's dying, fast
>>345432691
that looks interesting
>start Skyforge
>a few days or a week into it, figure out a way to get a free mount and a free class unlock but with a 30day timer
>don't know what to use it on, keep leveling first class I chose
>few days later, drop game for whatever reason and never go back
welp
>>345431564
Rebirthwow
>>345431564
I don't think eve will ever die
>>345436482
Didn't they release a new continent or something? Shit's really dying?
>>345433965
yes but it's pay to get fucking anywhere
How is Guild Wars 2 atm?
My friend recently started playing it but I want to be sure it's not shit before I join him.
>>345437431
DING DONG BANNU
>>345440417
it's decent mmorpg. And hey, it's free.
>>345431771
I mean really, what is it?
>>345440841
Skyforge I think
>>345440640
Is it pay2win though? Can I actually play it and enjoy it without paying for things?
I don't exactly have an excess of dosh to whop around right now.
>>345441001
It's more pay2notgrind than anything else.
I bought the game a few years ago and got bored with it really quick, most quests are just kill x to progress and the story full of special snowflakes is garbage, it was like reading a fan fiction story made by multiple writers where each one is trying to prove that their self-insert is stronger than everyone else.
Exploring and doing jumping puzzles was fun though
>>345432691
>flip table
kek
>>345442795
It actually does it
>>345438606
it's too fucking niche to die. there will always be someone playing it and until they stop making at least server costs they won't end it.
>>345431564
Well, the only good thing about Skyforge. Dropped this in less than 1 week
>pay for a mmo plus the sub every month
>still manage to spend less than you would if you played a "f2p" mmo
Everyone always sees free to play and think they'll save money only to pay out the ass if they want to make actual progression.
>>345444398
>being an impatient retard
I miss guild wars factions. That was a cool mmo. And early WoW. Other than that i never really got into mmo. It's a bad genre to get into.
>>345432432
Oh yeah I could use that in the dropped thread, stopped playing once I realized I could only choose from three lame classes to start with
for a game all about freedom of classes it sure was fucking restrictive
>>345445579
>factions
I miss pre-searing.
>>345432691
oh shit, I never thought of doing that
can't wait to show my buddies and have a comfy drawing session
>>345436482
dropped that shit fast as fuck
such a boring generic piece of shit mmo
>>345437431
I would've played this if not for the constant rubber-banding
>>345436482
faster than archeage?
mmos got that action combat now which is nice but they definitely need to change up the questing system.
Going from npc to npc doing menial tasks is probably what kills mmos the most for me, especially when unless you do that there is actually fuck all to do.
don't. Mmo are for autistic nerds.
I know what I'm talking about, I have a lvl 100 undead rogue on wow
Anyone playing Tayne?
>>345445889
I wish Arseage was still alive.
Man, the game was good. Shame bots killed it.
>>345431564
>slider doesn't go beyond 100% on butts
GUILD WARS 1
>>345431564
None, they are all huge time sink and you'll end up feeling drained playing them all day. You're better off playing other kinds of games.
>>345438606
EVE would probably benefit with going F2P. While being free would attract more people, the game is still complicated enough to keep out the wrong people.
Don't know how the game economy would survive without the trade in plexs, though.
>>345441001
It's not pay to win at all. And it's pretty fun. I enjoy it when I play by myself, so I'm sure it's a blast with a friend or two
Obviously
>>345431564
>terrible edgy buttplastic
Why?
Does it matter.
shame skyforge had that laggy ass combat, could of been good.
>>345444398
>play progression game
>pay money to skip progression
>no reason to play the game anymore
why you'd pay money for anything but cosmetics in a f2p game is beyond me
>>345436482
>get into the game a few weeks ago
>have a lot of fun, just finish +15 ultimating my armor
>nabbed a +7 liverto off the market
>next day they release +20
>see 100s of people in chat upgrading their weapons to +18 and how much stronger it is than +15 not to mention the massive resource cost
and that's when I dropped it
>>345444398
You actually buy the stuff in f2p mmos? Pretty dumb, that.
>>345446696
Not once, ever
>>345431564
PC - WoW/FFXIV
PS4 - FFXIV
>>345446969
The only right answer but I just quit ffxiv this week and quit wow in cats so im not going back
>>345432432
I literally only wanted to play for gunner, but hearing that it's blatantly a month of grinding to get it killed it for me.
I just want to be a qt with a minigun, is that so much to ask for?
>>345446302
I've had an idea on how to make EVE f2p while still making money off subs/plex. basically if you're f2p you can't learn skills past what current trial accounts can train and you can't go into null-sec. if you have been subbed and stop subbing you're locked out of any training and using skills beyond the f2p limit. you still get to keep your shit, but you can't fly say a dominix without a sub.
>>345447341
Pretty much anyone with at least 1 year skill time on his account can make enough money in one week to buy a plex each month.
If you are really good or just lucky you can make enough money for multiple Plex in one day.
>>345431564
Dragon Nest has a great combat system, but the leveling is so fucking boring and easy, and the dungeons are so repetitive - it's one of those games where all the combat is in instanced dungeons.
Music's good, story's okay (though the game's so easy at this point that you'll probably out-level it). Each class is a character, and they all have their own stories, so that's nice. Voice work's generally the good kind of cheesy.
It runs on a toaster, and considering that, looks pretty good. I'd recommend giving it a shot; if you can stand the grind, and get to where the game starts actually being hard it's good fun.
>>345446969
What's the gameplay like in FFXIV?
Is it the same old linear questing path bullshit of going from one npc to another doing random tasks?
>>345447490
Exactly. It just looks pretty too.
>>345447341
Hello suicide gankers.
>>345447460
apparently trial accounts can do a lot more now than last I recalled. my ideas would obviously need tweaking, but I was thinking cruisers or maybe even battlecruisers would be the limit on a f2p account.
when you say 1 plex a day how long is that day? is this solo with no alts? back when I played it took me an hour a day every day to stay plexed.
>>345447895
When I was lucky, I could make 1600kk ISK in about 5 hours via exploration sites. I made at least 300kk on unlucky days, assuming I played 4-5 hours a day.
That was before the exploration site rework though, no idea how things are now.
>>345447490
Yes but the story is some what interesting. The Expansion story on the other hand is much better and there is only 1 30 minute - 1 hour segment of doing random chores for someone.
>>345448187
never tried exploration, I just ratted in null-sec and sold the salvage/loot to my corp.
>>345447490
Yeah, pretty much. You are forced to complete a main story quest chain to unlock content in game. In my opinion, all of it is pretty fun but I can see why some people don't like it.
Your character can be any of the classes in game if you equip a weapon matching that class. It is kind of like RuneScape in that you can do anything whenever you feel like it.
The crafting system is pretty interesting when compared to crafting in WoW in that it is more hands on. You have some control over the quality of the item you're making. You can use high quality materials and use the right skills to make a high quality item. The crafting is the best I've seen in an MMO. So if you ever felt like RP crafting and selling shit online, I'd say this is one of the best games for it.
The combat is more in-depth than something like WoW but there is a 2.5 global cool down on abilities. I haven't made it to end game yet so I can't elaborate on this too much but it is fun.
Overall it is a fun game (redundant, I know.) ..if you like MMOs. The world doesn't feel as organic as WoW but all the monsters are cool and everything looks great. There are some invisible walls in game. It is it's own thing while still retaining WoW-like qualities. I personally have enjoyed my experience very much.
>>345432228
You can come play EvE. I enjoy it. Lots of things to do. I've been playing since 2007 and I still find shit to do with 70M SP.
r8 my gila fit
>>345447243
> cant grind for a month without sleep to get the things he wants in a f2p
You shouldn't play f2p mmos then because the grind is way worse in more f2p games
>>345446576
cause many of them are designed to make progression insufferable unless you pay
>>345450507
I was already playing wakfu, vindictus, domo, and ffxiv at the time and did not want to add another to my list.
>>345451132
Why'd you start it then? I'm mad because you can run all that shit and all I have is toasters. I really need to abandon my neet lifestyle and get more shit.
People dont understand what russian grind is when all they play are korean games
Skyforge was too much for your average mmo shitter
>>345452518
get on wellfare
MMO is dead.
It wont be ressurected by anyone until some key technology is invented/inuse. "Key tech" being PROPER working VR, not those garbage bulky headsets. Those are just meme.
>>345452836
mmos are not about tech
and if you want an immersive game - mmo is the last thing you want
A lot of them are F2P already. Just choose the one that appeals to you the most and enjoy the ride. That said, I'm going to be playing Legion when it comes out, albeit only for a month or two. Maybe three, but that depends on how interesting it will be. Just don't view MMOs as a long term commitment. Think of them in terms of any other game, or even a single player experience, as most already have systems in place where you can experience most of the content alone.
Unless you're looking for something competitive, be it PvP or PvE, in which case you'd best look for something that's not P2W and has an active playerbase / is challenging, or whatever appeals to you the most.
How is vindictus and Maplestory doing now days in quality and population?
>>345453759
Is maplestory even good?
>>345453876
Was fun once from what I been told its taken a massive dive in quality because of greedy gooks.
>>345432432
I immediately uninstalled that bullshit after learning about that system
You have all these cool classes gated behind tedious grinding and the gameplay in between wasn't fun enough to keep me playing.
At least FFXIV had interesting class story quests to unlock along the way
>>345452518
Because none of those had miniguns/rocket launchers.
>>345453876
You ask me famicom
>friend accidentally bought $40 in perfect world money thinking they were some other game card
>didn't know wtf he bought so he just gave them to me
>look through the site and try the games
>only one I came close to liking was rusty hearts because it was just pretty and weeb enough for me
>fucking dies on me right before I can find a character I felt right playing and wanted to spend money for
Any f2p games just die off on anyone else like that?
>>345431564
>Technology
>They just clip into each other
This is not technology.
>>345454642
Kek.
I think there should be more MMO's with hack&slash, a.k.a Diablo/Path of Exile gameplay. I think since grinding seems to be all these games are about nowadays, might as well just use the gameplay standards best suited for it.
>>345454642
Is maplestory good?
>>345431564
dfo
>>345446669
God forbid they give you something to strive for.
Why would you not want your character to slowly ease into the new, harder content again?
>>345454729
To be fair thats modded, the max size is pretty much 65%
>>345455061
Because it's not fun grinding the same mob over and over just to get enough $ to roll the dice on whether or not you get the next enchantment success. Especially considering how hard I grinded to catch up to everyone who has been playing far longer than me. I was literally almost caught up with full +15 ultimate gear, a liverto and level 56. Then boom, break the balance of the game with +20 trash and no actual content in the empty desert.
I also don't like gathering but people who have been stockpiling sharp/hard stones long before I even started playing have a huge advantage
None of this would be a problem is gear didn't 100% dictate pvp
and giving everyone (especially rangers) a free 100 extra AP isn't making the pvp any better, in fact it makes it worse
>>345447179
Oh but Legion pre-patch comes out July 19th! Don't you want to relive the glory days that you missed in Warlords of Draenor? Man, all that super fun endgame you missed out on.
>>345448327
Endgame dungeons and raids are a lot of fun. You'll enjoy them, especially once you've got all the rest of your skills filled out - though I can't speak for the 2.3 content as I haven't had the time to try that patch out, yet.
Black desert is the only fun MMO right now that frequently gets large content updates. If you can handle the RNG and grind it's the best.
>>345455854
Downloading black desert right now. Seems like fun.
>>345447460
what do you recommend skilling into for doing this?
>>345452518
Stop being an upset little poorfag then you dingus. If you had a good PC right now, you also wouldn't be wasting your fucking time with Skyforge and doing the unnecessary grind when you can play other MMOs or games.
>>345457890
Blueprint research, exploration sites (if you are lucky or in wormhole systems), or, if you like dante-must-die mode suicide ganking.
>>345458285
I play ffxiv on ps4
Any MMO that has a world as beautiful and interesting as XIV? All I care about, as long as the gameplay doesn't make me want to neck myself I can manage.
>>345447481
The new characters look neat but I just can't force myself to do it anymore. Used to be able to solo everything on Abyss, but they did something weird and either massively raised the required level or something that stops me from having any fun/reward with the game. And even when the game was newer once you get to the main town all the quests are so garbage that they put me to sleep.
Real shame since all the characters are 10/10 fantastic.
>>345461026
Yeah. FFXIV.
>>345461026
Do you not like the FFXIV gameplay, anon?
>people say Secret World is decent enough
>look at the page on Steam
>would have to buy like $200 worth of content DLC on top of the main game to have access to the entire game???
Well, so much for that
>>345431564
MMO's would be better if they were more immersive and didn't rely on hotbars and cool downs for gameplay.
How come no MMO actually has good gameplay?
>>345461595
I enjoy it, I'm just saying gameplay is a low priority for me looking for a new MMO.
>>345461409
Fuck.
>>345462253
PSO2 exists anon.
only one aswer
>>345461390
I think they cut the higher difficulties out of the early and midgame for "rebalancing", then never fucking put them back in.
It's not even like they lowered the difficulty to appeal to casuals or anything, normal was always a joke while leveling. If new players want a challenge, why not let them have one?
Is better Vindictus or Skyforge?
>>345440417
all the fun nowadays is in the xpansion so if yu want to have the fullest fun then buy the xpansion for $50. good thing though is the base game comes with xpansion and after that it's free to play (buy to play). no sub fees.
>>345462282
You could consider MHO, Forsaken World, Dragon's Nest, TERA and loads other more
Someone played Revelation Online on CH server? Is this game any good?
>>345462607
This, but most people won't get past the jap captcha.
>>345462908
Vindictus because fuck skyforges limiting shit.
>MMO
>NEVER EVER
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
PLAYED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM,FREEEEE,PAY,SUB,FANTASY,FPS POKEMON GO,OW,BATTLEBORN,ESO,GW,GW2,WOW,TSW,THE EVERYTHING EVERY SINGLE ONE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME.
here i am,staring at /v/ desperately tryig to find an interesting game meme so i can find something to play.
im desperate
>DESPERATE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>345454697
Rusty Hearts was great. I miss playing it.
>>345431564
Revelator Online is coming out in NA. It was pretty fun when I played the gook version, but dunno if it'll stay that way.
>>345431564
Depends. Which ones have the best body sliders andsize modifications?
>>345457558
KILL URSELF
clientsided hackfest,insta lvl 60s and god modes,enjoy.
>>345454697
>Rusty Farts
At least the OST was nice
https://youtu.be/etJvh8qftvE
https://youtu.be/dEG3QyARyeE
>back off Bethesda shill
I only played this game for like 20 hours, will probably get back into it once I upgrade my toaster. I got this for $12 from a GMG sale last year, it's really not that bad.
The world feels more immersion then it did in beta. You can choose from 4 classes, and the best healers have to be templars, and the best tanks have to be DKs, which is retarded. Also if you really want to min max you have to be certain classes. But the questing feels fun to me, and the open pvp in cyrodil is pretty fun. Once you pvp, you can pretty much go whatever build you desire, unless you what to be a pure filthy heal slut.
But I play MMOs for the end game pvp, so I just focus on that mainly. But the end game pvp is pretty fun since we're talking about large castle seiges here. I love running a heavy armor heal Templar who just aggro everyone and heals for days while everyone tries to focus me. I also have a nightblade who goes invisible and one shot hanks people in cyrodil which is super fun. Give it a shot if you can find someone with a guest pass.
I need a comfy MMO like Dungeon Fighter Online, without the ridiculous korean RNG.
>this is impossible
>>345446119
blame the jew
Is the signup for MHO annoying? Been looking to give that a try.
>>345447481
>>345461390
I wish I could still enjoy Dragon Nest
For the little while I was really into it it was the most fun I've ever had in an MMO. The combat, even on random trash enemies can be really fun, every class plays differently and does cool shit, bosses are at least decent most of the time and the pvp can be fucking fantastic and what every action MMO should aspire to.
It just runs out of variety in the pve incredibly fast and the pvp needs japan tier internet to be bearable for long so constantly getting matched with BRs or people on crap wifi or even just people on the other side of NA can make it really frustrating.
I miss it, but just can't enjoy it when I try to play it again.
>>345447481
Game is good and I played it for a long time. Community is shit though, don't expect to get anywhere unless you play with friends.
If you want to be remotely useful in endgame, you need to go through enhancement bullshit that basically guarentees breaking your items unless you use an item from the cash shop. Sure, you can buy them from the market from other players, but you will have to grind a lot to get enough money for 1-3 tries at upgrading.
The game itself is good, but nexon fucks it up, and standards of everyone needing +13 equipment and max everything else can make the game a drag.
Last time I played, they removed all of the dragon raids except for the newest one, and are recycling old level content for raids.
>>345464817
>I'll never be the only white boi in a guild full of pinoys again
>never relive 40 cap/sea dragon runs
>the game turned into "pay real money to gamble for move speed wings to be relevant as a cleric endgame"
>Not to mention the meta turned into 200% FD stacking so you can just nuke the boss without having to do any mechanics
The game was good and then it turned to shit
Quit right before 90 cap, ashamed at how long I played and how much money I wasted trying to get those fucking rng wings.
>>345454697
gib Star Trek Online monies plox
>>345464997
>>345464817
>>345465164
Are there any private seevers? Tried looking for some but they were all dead.
>>345436482
Oh man, the delusional aspies on there were fucking sucking it's dick saying the graphics were better than Witcher 3
>>345431564
Black Desert Online !
New classes releases the 20th but don't go to /bdog/ (if it's not 404 yet)
>>345462908
>Vindictus
>mmo
seriously though, the choice is basically combat or waifu generation
>>345464045
I forgot to mention that this game is comfy and you can play by yourself the whole time. /vg/ also has a guild but idk if they're cool or not.
>>345465419
>Playing chink shit where you pay $200 for wardrobe items
lmao and the PvP is shit
game looks nice that's about it, the gameplay is shit.
>>345462908
The one that isn't an MMO
>>345464045
Is the end-game pvp actually good?
I bought this game months ago, I was in the January 2014 beta but I never really got back into it.
Is there outdoors pvp, too?
>tfw still playing ragnarok
This game will be my deathbed
>ctrl+f
>no Blade & Soul
Is it my taste that is shit, or is it yours?
I don't like MMOs anymore but friends told me to get into this F2P "Riders of Icarus" currently on Steam and it's pretty fucking shit don't even bother
which MMO has the best maid outfit
i need to be a cute maid please and thank you
>>345461026
None. FF14 looks amazing and has an even more amazing soundtrack that sets the mood of the already wonderful locales. No other MMO compares with that.
>>345468676
>Tekken / Street Fighters
>MMORPG
Pick one.
Also, hackers.
Also, weebs.
/bnsg/ is pretty alive though, I'll give you that.
Thoughts on Ultima Online?
>>345461695
if you buy ultimate, you get most of the issues, besides its a really lengthy mmo, put in 21 hours and didnt even leave solomon island (first butch of zones)
>>345432691
How do I set this up, anyone? I need this.
>>345463606
You can't find what doesn't exist. Go for singleplayer and buy time until something interesting release.
>>345469718
Dead server + bots
>>345447481
>>345461390
>>345464817
>>345464997
>>345465164
>>345465373
Wasn't there a /dng/ at some point?I'm sure there's at least one private server out there that's alive, right?
>>345470508
iirc there was.
Also if any of you guys are still lurking in the thread, I found something interesting while searching:http://dragonnest.nexon.net/news/news/00IxJ/notice-of-dragon-nest-service-transfer
>After five memorable years hunting and defeating some of the fiercest dragons ever seen, we regret to announce that Nexon America has arrived at the difficult decision to discontinue the North American service of Dragon Nest in September and publishing rights will be transferred to the game’s developer Eyedentity Games on Tuesday, September 27, 2016. At that time, the service will be shut down and you will no longer be able to play Dragon Nest through Nexon America.
>mfw nexon loses dn
>mfw there is a chance that there will be less jewery
How do I paint along with bob ross in tabletob simulator.
>>345471075
Oh fuck
Is that a glimmer of hope?
Are Eyedentity actually picking up NA servers or just letting them die?
>>345471075
>>345471919
>After five memorable years hunting and defeating some of the fiercest dragons ever seen, we regret to announce that Nexon America has arrived at the difficult decision to discontinue the North American service of Dragon Nest in September and publishing rights will be transferred to the game’s developer Eyedentity Games on Tuesday, September 27, 2016. At that time, the service will be shut down and you will no longer be able to play Dragon Nest through Nexon America.
> publishing rights will be transferred to the game’s developer Eyedentity Games on Tuesday, September 27, 2016. At that time, the service will be shut down and you will no longer be able to play Dragon Nest through Nexon America.
>publishing rights will be transferred to the game’s developer Eyedentity Games
looks like it friendo
>>345471919
>>345472358
And I cant even be assed to install the game to transfer my character
>>345472473
me neither desu.
Nexon losing it should make some people come back though. Might be worth picking it up again and starting from scratch.
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I BOUGHT TABLETOP SIMULATOR AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PAINT WITH FUCKING BOB ROSS
>>345471075
oh shit
thanks for the heads up
>>345431771
FPBP.
But really what is this
>>345472901
np anon.hopefully this means that updates get out faster. I looked around some more, and it looks like that we are finally getting new skills
>>345448327
>Haven't made it to endgame but it is fun
How can you comment on something you haven't done?
You can't change classes anywhere that actually matters - ie dungeons/raids/trials. There are invisible walls everywhere in all the pre-3.0 zones, Heavensward isn't as bad because you can fly in those zones. I'd argue against the combat being "in-depth" as well. Every class has a pretty rigid rotation you are required to do to get optimal dps which is all that really matters, well that and being able to avoid RED CIRCLES.
Played the game from 1.0 until January of this year, and I can safely say, if you don't like Final Fantasy ALOT its not really worth playing. If you do, you'll find ways to squeeze enjoyment out of the game admittedly.
>>345461695
To be fair, Secret World has an absolute shitload of interesting content. Especially if you want to solve the investigation quests on your own.
>>345474914
>quests are super interesting and fun to solve
>always quit because of the shitty combat
That sucks, at least I go a little bit longer everytime I come back.
One that doesn't have an extensive character creator.
Fucking ERPers
>>345474228
i havnt actually played in forever because i play just for story now, and almost came back for the edgy warrior but heard he was a nerfed piece of shit
the ninja guy with chains is probably nerfed now too, thats when i played the most
fucking hate rng protect and enhance bullshit god i love the combat but the other parts of the "mmo" drive me up the wall
and its sad i even care about the story but its interesting enough
that and cool looking outfits cost an arm and a leg, man. why they gotta make it impossible to earn your way to look good ingame
>>345475051
I didn't think the combat was THAT bad, what weapons were you using?
>>345448405
>Core defense extenders
>Not resist enhancers
Always better to take less damage anon
>>345475269
it didn't help that said outfits were required for raids because "muh stats".
things are looking up a bit though. some of the awakening skills look insane.
Why are MMOs so shit?
0 player interaction and game content that gets boring quick really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>345475285
I've played several character. I think the one I went the longer was magic and ARs, not too sure. But I know I actually picked a build that was supposed to be good, maybe it was shotgun and magic.
>>345475447
at this point I'm certain it's the MMORPG playerbase itself, there's no other way developers would be able to push out shit like this constantly without having to notice that something is wrong.
>>345431564
MMMmmhhh....fucking Yeah!!!!!!......I shot a big cums to my penis!....Thick mushroom sead big one!!!....Gggguhh I cummed so hard it blew hole in monitor!!!...
Wow is still the best
>>345476024
>muh endgame
Someone really needs to genocide these fuckers.
>>345431564
>character creator has sliders
>sliders just increase or decrease values and the devs never gave a fuck how the extremities even look on the model
Being this lazy should be criminal
Anyone playing Riders of Icarus? What's the deal with it?
>>345476024
>TREE OF SAVIOR DOESN'T EVEN HAVE WORKING PARTIES
>IT HASNT HAD WORKING PARTIES FOR 1 MONTH NOW
>NEARLY NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS
KILL ALL FUCKING MMO PLAYERS
>>345466919
Not him, but the pvp is good as soon as you get enough skills, and it only gets better from that.
onlee da bess
>>345464045
TESO got leaps and bounds better from launch with really solid content updates, but it's still a really forgettable MMORPG and not even worth mentioning TES game. You kinda have to deal with mediocrity throughout.
>>345465409
BD does look great, but that horrendously aggressive pop-in kills any sense of immersion. Basically, game looks much better in screenshots than it does in motion. Not to mention supermodel look for characters also completely takes me out of the game.
>>345476996
>Gook hack and slash
>>345476996
Fuck vindictus is so boring. I got to level 22 without dying once, using any healing items, or experiencing anything resembling excitement as my character slaughtered myriads of mobs while I'm just lazily clicking away.
What happened after level 22? I uninstalled.
>>345477279
yes, and?
>>345477315
Yeah, shamefully it is a rather dull and easy experience until the very high levels, but even then it's only hard for the bosses or big battles, every other mission is just "beat up trash and blow up this boss at the end in half a second"
>>345476867
Tree of Saviour was one of the biggest bullshit marketing campaigns in recent MMORPG history. It's not at all like Ragnarok Online and people just blindly bought into game's presentation.
>>345476996
you need to stop posting this webm
or at least stop using the same retarded filename so we won't be sure its you
please
>>345476867
Yeah right. There can't possibly be an mmo out there that manages to break a party function
>>345477315
my friend you've barely experienced the game
>>345477517
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/quest-with-member-in-a-party-dosent-work/307791/2
>>345477425
Yeah, it looking old as fuck and having everything cool locked behind a paywall doesn't exactly help with the experience. You can hardly call it an MMO anyway.
I played Wildstar for the first time today.
It's fun, but damn something feels so off about it. Somehow I just don't want to keep playing it.
>>345431564
DDO is still easily the most unique MMORPG I've played and is still around. Shame it's kinda gimped for F2P players and you'll need to replay a ton of content after early sections to level up. Probably the best MMORPG if you have a pre-made group to play with and you're taking your time taking in the story.
Why are mmo's so ludicrously easy? It's just a grind to play them.
>>345477785
Vindictus is the only mmo that relies on pure player skill
you'll never be able to stack enough stats to facetank everything
ded frontier
>>345469612
>>Tekken / Street Fighters
Blade and Soul is like a fighting game?
Albion Online
>>345476996
At this point I wonder why they called it Mabinogi Heroes when the only similarities are Glas, Morrighan and Cichol. Hell they dont even make sense in the story
>>345477582
>it's EVERY SINGLE QUEST that has a cutscene. The bug activates when you are in a party and your team activates a cutscene.
Well colour me surprised. Well not that surprised honestly considering the fuck up the game is. It seems like it has been 20 days too.
>>345478459
it's a prequel
>>345478294
Well since the game is designed around 1vs1 pvp and the main theme is chinese martial arts so it's not a bad analogy
>>345478487
its been there for a month now, that's just a new-ish thread
>>345477738
I'd love to play DDO, but it just feels so dated. It could really stand to get a sequel. Unfortunately two things are keeping that from happening. First, the current dev team is literally a skeleton crew keeping the game barely running. Secondly their cancerous fanbase is absolutely obsessed with everything they've collected and done in the game so far and every time someone mentions a sequel they flip out and scream them down for fear of losing what they've accomplished.
>>345478538
I know
>>345477203
Those visuals don't even look on par with Witcher 3.
>>345448405
Those shield resists are insanely low, try to get some all resists in there.
>>345478751
Witcher 3 isnt a mmoprg
Warhammer Online is worth playing even solo just for the Orc missions. There's a private server for it up.
>>345477895
ok i hate mmo's and the combat because most of them just have combat that requires you to be able to spam buttons as fast as you can but these hitboxes and dodging look nice
is the combat like every mmo where you press a button and do some shitty animation and still get hit by the enemy when you're away from them or is it somewhat good
>>345478294
Kind of.
Its probably the most fighting game like of the various action MMOs.
There's even a not-insignificant oki element
>>345446363
I want to marry an Elin
>>345479045
it's the best! It plays like Dynasty Warrior but with more attacks+dodging
>>345479207
what are the classes like then?
I may download it as i have litearlly nothing to do right now but i just want to know how good the combat is. I couldn't really give a fuck about the rest of the game
>>345479249
It was never alive in the first place. Most people jumped on the waifu hype and played for a month a most before realizing what a shallow piece of shit it is just like every 'korean sandbox mmo'
>>345479342
all classes are unique! But they aren't classes per se, they are more like characters. The Character in the webm for hitboxes is Lann! The character in the gif is the newest addition to the game, Delia!
>>345479045
No, its actual one hundred percent action combat. You will have a pretty serious grind as a new player though.
>>345479404
In other words it ended up like archeage?
>>345479474
ok i might check it out
but you need to chill out with the exclamation points you seem like you're shilling
>>345479542
good, im alright for grinding, as i said i have literally nothing to do until the new Path of Exile leagues which are a nice 2 months away
Warframe
>>345475447
I don't know. All the next ground breaking MMO has to do is have plentiful interactions with the world itself. Why isn't there an MMO where my buddies and I can construct ladders, place them where we want, and use them to sneak into a castle all of our own free will outside of questing. It's so fucking simple, yet not a single MMO does it. Why can't I, with a group of friends, subdue a dragon, tame it, and then take it into battle against a rival clan all of my own free will? Everything in modern MMOs is locked to quests, instances, or events. Why can't I decide to do the fun shit on my own time, with the buddies I choose?
>>345479542
WHY DO YOU NEVER
POST BIG NIG WEBMS
MY GOD THOSE FUCKING CLASHES ARE THE SHIT
>>345479249
Far from dead, world is still full of players and t gets frequently large content patches.
What are other games that have similar character creators like the one in the OP?
>>345479207
>>345477895
>>345477321
>>345476996
>ALWAYS this three webms and one gif
>>345479614
It's pretty much Archeage, but with a better waifu generator and no cats.
Atleast it has a custom spam filter in chat that you can play with. Wish more mmo's would come with that so when they get flooded with gold seller spam from day 1 you can do something about it.
>>345476996
Vindictus! The game where you have to spend a few hundreds dollaritos to have enough attack speed for the game to not be boring as fuck.
FUCK YEAH!
>>345479614
ArcheAge didn't die because it was a bad game. It died for two other reasons. One, it was ruled by jews who awarded the biggest whales with the most shit. And two, Trion was completely incompetent at dealing with the bot menace. Those two things together ruined an otherwise great game. After a few months it just ended up being a stomping ground for those that botted and spent money on it.
>>345479660
did he mention that you need to pay to run dungeons?
please don't let the shill get to you
ps its run by nexon. you should know what else to expect
>>345479946
You didn't even mention the tranny community manager debacle.
Which MMOs let me play as a dancer?
This is important.
>>345479894
It's not even close to Archeage, AA died after like 1-2months because of P2W bullcrap and shitty "Sandbox features".
Black desert is still alive and healthy and still receives content updates.
I don't even know why people keep memeing about BDO is like AA.
>>345431564
I would like to see a version of this with thicker thighs, so her ass doesn't look completely fake.
>>345479975
lol site doesn't even work for me and i can't be fucked to check out a solution anyway so no worries i guess
>>345479542
thanks for the new webm lad :o)
>>345480137
I need more.
>>345480086
is it still p2w in a b2p game?
did they add gender choices to each class?
Warframe
>>345480047
Dragon Nest has an entire class tree dedicated to Dancers
>>345479921
>>345479975
the fuck are you guys on about? I mean I play on the korean version but I've never had to pay for any attack speed/dungeon runs.
>>345480047
SWG
>>345480338
Please tell me what's p2w in the game.
>>345479975
>pay to run dungeons
lol
>>345480423
Doesn't count if it's gone. How are you enjoying SWTOR ;)
>>345480347
Warframe is fun for a little bit, but after 4 hours you've literally done everything. The whole game is essentially an MMO version of a collect-a-thon with some neat gameplay in between. If Warframe had good PvP and an actual open world outside of missions it'd be a lot of fun.
>>345431771
>>345440841
>>345473348
Skyforge, it's shit don't.
>>345480631
Well, yeah, still the "4 hours and did everything" it's just not true, still, I can admit the game is a grindfest.
>>345480610
I'm not, I'm playing SWGEmu. Isn't SWTOR the retarded P2W WoW clone where you have to buy action bars?
>>345480338
Are you talking about archeage or black desert?
>>345431564
66% is best
>>345479660
Vindictus has the best combat i've ever seen, but almost everything else is garbage because of nexxon.
I still play from time to time, I've been soloing everything on Staff Evie since I've started playing.
also clodagh is cute
>>345437431
So when is it officially coming to the west/EU?
inb4 neverever
>>345480338
>gender locked classes
Worst thing ever in an MMO. At that point it's just an online arcade game with a somewhat open world. Maybe I'm in the minority, but my avatar in an MMO is an extension of me that let's me experience the game world and I can't do that with a female character. I know it sounds like a minor complaint, but to me it's make or break, especially if the class I want to play is locked to a gender I don't want to make.
>>345481020
Kirstie is cuterest
>>345481071
>People believe this game will be the best thing that's happen to MMO in a long time.
>>345481020
>calls things garbage
>whilist he plays MMOs solo
I'd enjoy an actual sequel to Mabinogi. They're just letting it die slowly.
Whatever happened to Ragnarok Online?
>>345481042
there's a class equivalent for all sex minus Barbarian(male) and ranger(female)
>tfw I've never played an mmo
What have I been missing out on bros? Is it really worth trying one out?
>>345481020
who is this semen demon?
>>345481498
A chink.
>>345481279
and i dont understand why even tough i'm easily hyped by mmorpg
crowfall looks a more promising desu
>>345481498
The Tailor from the general store
>>345481481
it's too late anon the golden age is over sadly even if it was casual wow vanilla was the last good mmo
>>345481481
You've been missing out on nothing and I say this as someone who started playing MMOs back pre-2000. They've only gotten worse over time and MMOs are something that can only be enjoyed in the moment. Everyone goes on and on about how great RO and SWG were for example. And to be fair they're right, but you can't play them right now and experience what we experienced when they were at their peak.
>>345480347
Is it even an MMO if 95% of all content is 4 player instanced?
>>345481481
MMO's was not really that much better before than now. The only reason people keep circlejerking about how good old MMO's was were because it was still a new thing so the whole experice was new(It's also cool to be a vetaran/hardcore MMO player). But truth is nearly every old MMO had horrible balance, server issues, extremely tedious game design.
One thing tho is that most MMO's tend to be more causal today, but it was a casual MMO that made the MMO genre popular to begin with(WoW)
>>345481868
Technically yes, but I feel the definition should be more concrete. MMOs in my opinion should need open worlds, decent character customization, and tangible permanent progression to be considered MMOs. As it is right now, someone could argue that Dota and LoL are MMOs. They'd be dumb to do so, but they wouldn't be completely wrong.
>>345482073
you must be 18 to post here
>>345481354
It's just old and has been played to death.
There are some questionable updates just like every other old MMO that might ruin or not the game for you. I didn't play it anymore at that point though.
>tfw mmos are dead
>tfw WoW, Everquest, and normalfags killed them
>>345482651
MMO's has never "been alive", most of the old MMO's were all dead with no players. If anything more players play MMO's today.
>>345481498
post more clodaghs
MMO PLAYERS ARE KEKS
>>345431564
Just don't.
But if you really want to regardless:
>FFXIV
>WoW
Those are the only two worth anything now.
Korean MMOs are ALWAYS shit.
Eve is dead.
GW2 is dead.
Secret World is dead.
Tera is dead.
Everquest is dead and Next was pretty much canceled.
Wildstar was dead since its inception.
How about you do something useful with your life instead of grinding in an MMO?
Yo fuck MMOs I just want a waifu creator that looks good and isn't super moe
>playingswtorwith a vidya bro
>it's themepark as fuck but actually kind of enjoying it because I'm a storyfag
I regret nothing
>>345484642
"sexy" female characters are what killed the genre
>>345431564
Asherons Call
>>345484964
Been there
>finish story
>beat my former master and become a Darth
>the magic is gone
>>345479342
Last i played they had named characters instead of classes. Imagine it like old gauntlet.
Anyway they had sword and board/ hammer and board girl, dual sword/spear guy, staff/scythe magical girl and an archer was being announced.
It plays like a flashier monster hunter or dragons dogma
>>345477719
it's the battleborn of mmos
Every MMO is a good one as long as you have thing, friends.
That is what I learned after many attempts to stop others from playing a certain MMO. The bound is why people enjoy them.
>>345469737
yeah same,I've had one character on solomon island and i feel like i've been in there forever. i still can't really tell what the fuck is happening in the zone as far as what the root cause is in the plot. Games pretty fun.
>>345479342
The combat is going to be boring as fucking shit for you until around level 40-50, and then it only gets better from there until 90 when you will hit a paywall/grind wall the likes of which you can never fathom.
>>345485865
This can't be stressed enough. XIV was fun for me despite the shallow gameplay mechanics, something I spent most of my time with. Then 3.0 rolled around and most of my friends quit playing. Drive withered over time. Tried to get into other MMOs, but it's just not the same. Having a group of buddies to play MMOs with is what makes it an addicting genre. Without friends, they're nothing.
>>345485037
This is why I'm literally asking about a good character creation game that's simple and lets me make waifus, fuck playing an MMO for that
>>345486587
>>345485865
>tfw you only played mmos solo
>you'll never know what it's like to play mmos with friends
all of my gaming friends don't touch mmos. But I'm used to it after 12 years of soloing shit.
>>345454932
No, and it hasn't been for a long time now.
>>345487587
Its okay im the lone wolf type too, played a few mmos with friends but hey beating a lot of stuff alone is pretty enjoyable
>>345477321
>>345476996
Did they make vindictus faster? I remember using the shield girl to perfect guard all day for the stuns.
>>345479975
Paying to run dungeons hasn't been a thing since year 1 bud.
Who/lunia/ here?
>>345488836
it just looks faster because hes solo since the game is dead.
>>345479342
Theres 11 characters and half of them have 2 primary weapons to choose from. some the characters a re genderswaps that use similar weapons with different movesets.
>>345489413
Not Vindifag, there are a lot of people playing right now because Delia released a few days ago.
>>345478932
RoR is fun but I dont really imagine it serving as a main MMO
>friend A is playing mabonogi
>be a FFXIV homosexual that resubs when things get interesting
>another friend B joins friend A in mabonogi
>resub to FFXIV because finally new content
>friend B ask to watch stream
>wants to try FFXIV
>i got him hooked
>friend A mad at me
>ask him if he wants to try FFXIV
>"I haven't played the game but it's complete cancer and I'll never look at it. Mabonogi is better."
I'll never understand that mindset when he plays Mabonogi and how is has it's own faults. People just need to try games before listening to stupid meme shit. I think this same opinion extends to all games. Why do people have to defend their game so extreme when it comes to another mmo? I think the players who do this most are FFXIV players who jump into every thread to shit on every mmo.
>>345491962
>paying sub for a mmo in [current year]
>>345448405
Oh god damn, this makes me want to play EVE again.
I hated the gameplay, but fitting out ships optimally for certain purposes was my wet dream.
>>345431564
FFXIV if you're willing to pay for a sub
Otherwise no idea
>>345432432
Could you give a quick tldr about it?
Do you have to pay money to get the new classes or grind to get them?
>>345447490
it's a mmo designed for a ps3 on all content pre 3.0 and it's fucking trash with invisible walls everywhere, zero detail and global cooldowns for controller users, stay the fuck away and go play XI
go fucking figure
>>345445053
>having other things to do than wasting time in some shitty korean f2p grindfest mmo all day.
>>345438606
I heard it's pretty much impossible to really get into the game because of how established the economy and shit is
You end up getting bullied into futility by the vetters
>>345444398
>yfw p2p mmos still fucks you with microtransactions
>>345438606
EVE is more of a spreadsheet simulator than a game.
>>345447179
If you havent played since Cata you should try it out. It's pretty good and Legion is coming up. Yes WoD endgame sucked but the 90-100 experience was well worth it. And you're not gonna experience much of the endgame anyway, even with the 100 boost you're still not gonna see it all before Legion hits.
No MMO beats WoW. That's just how it is. We're all just so tired of it that we no longer talk about it. But what other game gave us 10+ years of entertainment? Really?
Go WoW
>>345451132
Do you actually play all of them
I don't even have time for one
>>345493773
false.
i started playing about 2 years ago and was established enough to do most everything a new player would want.
I regret my vanilla WoW days not being spent in Eve's hay day now. Eve is the fucking MMO for people who hate normies.
>>345480402
Then you haven't reached lategame/endgame
>>345477203
>watch hours of tutorial videos for BDO
>still have no idea wtf to do when starting the game
>genre where you waste 90% of your time in it's most shallow mechanic: combat
Geez, i wonder why it's so shit.
>currently have the itch
>nothing to scratch it
>everything sucks
>>345431564
>loved unlocking shit in the atlases in Skyforge
>hated the actual gameplay
is there any game that has the amount of grind like it
>>345494909
Warframe. It puts korean grinders to shame.
>>345494216
Eh? Follow the black spirit.
I prefer stumbling through the dark myself. Only thing I couldn't figure out was how to replenish the energy for workers. I think the game expected me to feed them.
Started playing pic related about a week ago. So far it's not too bad, the combat at least isn't boring.
>>345493574
You had to grind to unlock them. But the currency you used to unlock the class was the same as what you use to level up the classes you already had. So you couldn't advance the class you were using to grind and save up for new classes at the same time. On top of all of that, the grind was pretty extensive for some classes and there were weekly caps on exp gain.
Why are MMORPGs so shit these days?
>WoW
It's shit but despite that, it's still the best on the market to date. Draenor is total shit but Legion looks like it MIGHT be an improvement. Also patch 7.0 tomorrow. The biggest shame, in my opinion, is the fact that there's astronomical amounts of content in this game that has been made utterly irrelevant as each expansion comes out. Think of all the amazing raids and shit the old expansions had that no one will get to enjoy because you can just run through and one-shot everything. Timewalking is kind of cool I guess but who's fucking idea was it to lock scaled old dungeons to weekly events?
>FFXIV
It's literally WoW but with less content. Classes are good, no need for alts is good, dungeons and raids are good, endgame is good. Leveling 1-50 is an utter fucking snoozefest. The only time the main story had me interested was at the very end, before Heavensward. You almost forget you're playing a multiplayer game from 1-50. Instead it's like you're playing a really shitty single player RPG.
>Black Desert
Absolute fucking garbage. Appeals only to PvP tryhard fags. PvE is basically nonexistent because mobs might as well just be cardboard cutouts. I like the idea of connecting nodes, hiring workers, and creating your own little network of production. That's about it.
>ArcheAge
LABOR POINTS LABOR POINTS LABOR POINTS
Huge potential. Some of the best MMORPG mechanics ever made, but completely destroyed by Jews.
>Blade N Soul
Literally the same shit as Black Desert, but even more Jew-influenced and three times as dead.
>Riders of Icarus
Best potential of all the Western ports of Eastern MMOs right now. Collecting mounts is great fun. Everything else is pretty meh. Very little content, run of the mill questing, combat is just copy pasted from WoW/FFXIV but somehow not as good. Jews have their fingers on this one but not as bad as other games.
When are MMORPGs just going to go full on porn.
>>345446302
Might fuck up the economy,
would be too much of a risk going F2P
>>345495568
I was really curious about Riders of Icarus
How's the aerial combat?
If that and the mount collecting are decent I might be able to get my time's worth about it.
>>345495750
There are some I think, but quality varies drastically.
>>345452518
that picture was so bright my eye's just exploded
>>345479474
Delia is just a girl Hurk.
>>345481498
alice
Maybe its just better to grab the models of these MMO to skyrim.
>Be high level in an MMO
>Help out a low level
>He continues to follow me around with his low level friends asking me for help and handouts for three days
Lord help me
>>345497495
go play her. She literally isn't
>>345476996
>>345477315
>Enjoy the fuck out of Vindictus
>Test out all classes up until Kai (Bow/Gunner) came out
>Powerlevel until my guild hits Kraken
>Kraken
>Kraken
>Kraken
>Kraken
>Kraken
>Repeat Ad Nauseum twice a day (limit) for 1% fang droprate, and needing like half a dozen to get to the required DPS output for the next absolute chucklefuck of a grindfest
I still mourn the death of my interest in vindictus.
>>345436482
I just wanted to play my female samurai, but i had to wait for it to release as a wizard, and they still haven't released the skill transfer books
Its like they don't want my money
>>345498846
they've fixed that
>>345498327
>Not starting a cult
>>345499806
Well, that'd be dandy, except I've forgotten my crimson guard code, or whatever they called it.
Not to mention that when I lose interest in a game like that, it's usually for good, burned out kind of deal.
>>345499957
that's ok
if you ever do regain interest just contact support and they'll reset the code for you
Y'know, what is even the point of these thread? All I see are the same people saying the same fucking thing in ever MMO thread.
I get it. You're a loner with no friends to play the game with and that has ruined your MMO experience so you hate literally all MMOs.
>>345479859
what did you expect, shitdictus is nothing but 2 buttons spam, and this guys can't get over their glorified panty fashion simulator thinking it's the most hardcore game ever and not pay2win.
>>345500837
>I didn't make it out of the tutorial: the post
>>345479716
Netcode.
>>345480047
FFXI
>>345500992
is that supposed to prove me wrong?
go into a bunch of enemies and press one button, and they all die? so much skill man.
LMB LMB LMB RMB! LMB LMB RMB! RMB! and sometimes space!
>>345501453
>create faceroll macro for button presser keyboard simulator MMO where all you do is stank'n'tank while a healer does the same faceroll and watches you stank'n'tank
yes
how incredibly immersive
>>345431564
Dungeon Fighter Online.
>>345431564
dragon's nest sea
>>345468676
You have to go through the dog shit single player content to actually get to the fun part, which most people aren't willing to go through.
>>345468968
yeah ive been playing riders. its okay but it is themepark of course.. its an exact fucking copy of Tera but with flying mounts.. like literally its the same fucking game. i love riders of icarus.. i dont mind the grind and themepark but what i really fucking hate is how all these korean mmos are all combo based combat and yet their system is flawed and the combos never perform correctly. plus there are some bugs still such as for berserker class every time i charge a skill, i hold the charge and do nothing so im running around charging my sword looking like a dumb ass.
>>345477719
yeah same with me. i played when it released and i was really liking it but i had the same feeling that something was off and it didnt keep me playing anymore. for me i think it was because of how cheesy and cartoony the game looked, however i know that doesnt reflect the community.
>>345447481
Oh shit dragon nest.
I played it a lot. Played, the AH, had super high achiements points and could buy seals for gold in the achievment shop, all that.
Then earlier this year my account got hacked and they took everything, which should be worth around 40k gold
I guess i will never go back. It plays fine, much better than 99% of the mmos on the market, but is SO DAMN REPETITIVE, and all you do is a slow grind.
I also played on Sea server cause Nexon is absolute shit, but the ping was also disgusting.
>>345477535
I never liked that about MMOs in general
Shouldn't they be a blast to fun from the start? Or at least after a bit of working through the early game.
>oh the real game starts at the endgame
>Game gets good 50 levels in
>etc.
Have never really been a good way of trying to get people to play. The first 18 levels of Vindictus was the most fun I've had in an MMO because I was still getting the hang of it and almost every mission was a possible death because I was shit, but once I started getting better it felt like it lost something. I just kept using the same moves over and over, trying to get through the levels as quickly as possible so that I can just go through the next level.
I've always wondered why action games don't take a ntoe from the DMC series with it's combat. So many moves and attacks that you string together seamlessly. That webm of the Swordsman class in Vindictus earlier in the thread is what I mean. If you could pull that stuff from earlier in the game, it would be so much more fun in the long run.
Do people still play this? It's easily the best MMO I've ever played. It was like Vindictus but not for slow kids who can only handle pressing 3 buttons to combo.
>can't log on to Warhammer
Well fuck, there goes that idea
>>345495568
playing riders of icarus now. if you dont care much about collecting and taming familiars/mounts/dragons then this game isnt for you because everything else in this game is just basic mmo grind garbage.
the dungeons suck.. too easy and CM is the smallest fucking dungeon ive ever fucking seen ever. questing can be grindy but not exhausting (its not repetitive).
**WARNING**
if you are about to buy riders of icarus.. be aware that you probably wont ever be able to find a group for a dungeon. its a pain in the ass now and the only reason anyone can find other players is because for the next month there are dailies with good rewards that require you to run these dungeons.. once the month is over, so are the dailies.. and well.. itll just be near impossible to find players.
i havnt seen jack shit pvp yet, and as far as end game goes.. i doubt there is any.. its mainly a game for collecting familiars. also the combat is buggy and the combos never seem to work like they should (which is every korean mmo ever.. seriously stop this combo based combat bullshit)
>>345500992
>that one kid that keeps shilling this dead game
just fucking stop
>>345481020
im sad that vindictus is such a dead game
like it did a lot of things good, except make sure that any older content still had a purpose to exist.
Currently the issue becomes that the only community is always at the newest content while all the older content is fucking abandoned leaving new players to solo grind.
its miserable and shitty for that one reason.
a good game only to fall apart because all the old content is just abandoned.
>>345431564
All character creators have only one finite goal.
This is why I don't waste my time in any other game but illusion's.
>>345504032
it's to the point that i believe he's the one creating these these just so he can post the same shitty webms.
>>345504139
combat was good but the rest was garbage
shitty enhancement systems need to go into the fucking trash
only one to do it right is pso2 because your weapon cant fucking explode in that one
>>345504164
Those abs...what game is that?
FFXIV is pretty fun. Deep dungeons come out tomorrow, can't wait.
>>345505060
>2.5s GCD
Zzzzzzzz
Im this anon >>345502880
AHHHH, getting the ichy again.
I currently am playing vanilla wow, but i am not sure how much i am gonna be able to push through. The community is good, the amount of content is unreal, but JESUS CHRIST, that combat. Tabbed combat is a extremelly dated form of gameplay.
I have no idea why some games from today insists in this even today.
Dragon Nest (and i assume that vindictus also, i always see those 2 paired) had decent gameplay. It wasnt even good, just decent, cause too much cooldowns and 1-9 rotation, but it was fun.
But it is held down by the huge lack of content, extremelly grindy and repetitive gameplay, Nexon jewness and SEA/china/korea ping. Whyyyyyy
>>345431564
Project Gorgon
You can play as a cow
>>345506685
When you said "Play as a cow", I was expecting giant titted animu girls.
I am disappointed.
>>345503318
>5
This is actually what I enjoy about Warframe. Sure it's not GOTY material, but it's decent fun, from the start till the end. It's great to pick up when I'm in the mood to sperg out and be a robot ninja
>>345505005
Illusion's game, what else do you need?
>>345495460
The grind has eased a bit and there's better catchup mechanics but the russian devs are uber jews and all the p2w events practically killed it. It's a shame cause I loved the concept.
>>345436482
I forgot about this immediately after I realized most of the classes were fucking gender locked
>>345440640
I payed $60 dollars for this shit when it came out.
I hate myself
>>345464045
IMO, this game is horrible. I never feel any excitement from playing it
>>345481071
shit I'd fuck whatever that bottom left thing is
We could all make a crowd on this shit.
https://www.toontownrewritten.com/
>>345507674
they have a lot of games though
>>345475259
You know ERP proliferated in one of the least customizable MMOs of all time?
What you have here are non-roleplayers pretending to ERP.
>>345431564
wow or ff14.
most everything else is pretty bad right now, or has one glaring flaw that fucks the rest of it.
Revelation might be cool, but its publisher sucks and its Chinese. so the p2w likeliness is high
>>345503707
ynot? I was just about to look into it again.
>>345506025
>Nexon
Thankfully not for much longer
>>345471075
>>345446119
but anon they just announced DORFS and those dumb demon things
like
come on dude
dwarves
>>345510951
Beats me. Keeps having a login issue. Apparently they've been getting DDoS'd over the past few weeks but it's showing people online so lolidk.
>>345511095
shows only 32 people online
probably fucked right now
>>345471075
>dev taking over now
Seems DN is going the route of DFO. Too bad DFO global is kinda dead. Better to die in their hands than aborted by Nexon.
So are there any MMOs or games in general that would allow someone to do something like Blue Sentinels from Dark Souls but on a larger scale?
I want to be able to:
>Play the game solo without being forced to party to do anything
>Have non-consensual pvp
>Be able to protect noobs or players in general from people who hunt PvE players or grief
>Have skill based combat where the winner is always decided by who is better not who has better items and grinded the longer
Blue Sentinels in Dark Souls was a cool idea since I could hunt down people who targeted noobs and I could go to their world to protect them. However, it's still a single player game and the scale is way to small.
Tree of Saviour looked kind of cool but the combat as far as I'm aware is always consensual I can't just go somewhere and start randomly fighting people or protect people coming under attack from others.
>>345511509
>this will never come to the west
>there will never be a sequel
>there will never be an anywhere near complete translation because of the small english-speaking community
end me
>>345505853
>le bitching about 2.5s gcd meme
When will they come up with something new to complain about?
>>345511998
that and tree of savior is absolute dogshit anon. GL finding something tho.
>>345505060
game looks really good but i couldn't stand the
>press button wait for charge then attack
>q up next attack
shit's boring senpai
>>345477738
I absolutely love this and LOTRO, but I always lost interest soon after starting because running solo can only be fun for so long
I also wish I actually had friends who were interested in playing an MMO with me
>>345512481
I wish LOTRO was fully f2p already.
>>345512365
Is there any MMO that doesn't absolutely cater and adhere to PvE fags? I just want an online game with open combat where at any time people can come under attack and I can engage in skill based combat to defend them or actively hunt down people who attack others.
Every game I see the PvP is consensual and you have to ask people to fight in the first place. I don't understand how this is fun to anyone.
>>345512301
I think thats pretty much enough for most people.
Even a 1 second GCD is fairly long when you're used to MMOs and games, and the largest complaint I've seen about MMOs is that they feel less like games and more like grinders after you've played 100 hours or so.
The burnout is real.
I think that all the people who hold out of their 'dream mmo' which is basically real world but its a game 2.0 don't actually like MMOs any more and just want more real life things to do but can't connect the dots that reality is actually the solution to their MMO problem.
>>345512710
there's like 5 in kickstarter development
>>345512603
There's a lot of really cool ideas in LotRO but its not all that great. Try mounted combat and tell me you're okay with that nonsense.
>>345510296
nigga, is it so hard to just look for their last game? it's on the index page.
>Years ago
>PSO2 looks fucking awesome
>Western release never ever came
>Now
>Dragon's Dogma Online looks fucking awesome
>Western release never ever
Say what you will about Korean gooks, but at least they give us their games. Fuck the Nips.
I love FFXIV so much but with Squeenix siphoning all its profits and potential staff for other shit there just plain isn't enough content to last 3 weeks after any given content patch
But I can't even find any other MMO to take up the downtime, even Warframe which I used to use as filler just isn't updating for shit lately other than 'here have a new useless gun you can grind to craft only to throw it away because it's shit compared to your pre-existing endgame weapons'
>>345512885
>MMO
>Kickstarter
There will never be a successful MMORPG kickstarted. They just require too much money and support. And fuck, even with the money that doesn't guarantee they'll be good, look at the ongoing trainwreck that is Star Citizen
>>345432691
Don't have friends
>>345503490
It's dead but believe or not the game is finally getting new content after a 3 or so year drought. I'd kill to have illusionist or something like it elsewhere.
>>345513325
I'd give them a chance to fail first desu.
Star Citizen, Camelot Unchained, Crowfall, Gloria Victis are still in very active development.
This is one of the MMOs I've played the shit out of, so I guess I recommend it.
I find it really comfy and fun to play, but like all MMOs, it soon get REALLY boring if you have no one to play with.
Only MMO I can play is runescape. Every now and then I play old school for a couple months Started a new account about 3 months ago and have put in 300 hours. I love the way that you can just do whatever you want. Also love that all of the quests are so unique and most have really interesting rewards (ie, unlocking new areas, skilling methods, new spells, fast travel methods)
I also like hunting games but those aren't really MMOs, even though they can have similar progression.
Can't stand WoW or FFXIV or other tab target themepark games. Played EVE for like a month and enjoyed it but I didn't really meet anybody or make connections because you feel so disconnected from others in that game, in my opinion. Sucks because it seems pretty necessary to join a community to enjoy that game.
Always looking for a good UO shard if anybody knows of any. Hope some new game is finally good and not shit like Archeage or BDO.
>>345513650
If they weren't still charging such a huge amount even for outdated expansion packs I'd consider it again but fuck, playing up through Moria solo was enough to wear me down
And god I wish they had gone with a more realistic art direction or done a big graphics overhaul kind of thing
>>345513135
You're an ass, just fucking tell the dude. Jesus Christ I can't stand people like you.
>>345513971
>nigga probably doesn't even know just saved the photos
>>345513714
>Also love that all of the quests are so unique and most have really interesting rewards (ie, unlocking new areas, skilling methods, new spells, fast travel methods)
After having played nothing but Runescape for a few years as a youth, I have become increasingly frustrated by MMOs that don't do quests like that. The actual dialogue and puzzle solving with some cynical Brit humor for flavor blows massacring bears for asses out of the fucking water.
I really wish I could find some more RPGs or MMOs or really anything with that same feeling. Divine Divinity had some moments, but it felt like wasted potential in some places with how interactive the scenery could be.
>>345513971
Lurk more, newfag
>>345513971
He's just one of those faggots that take pride in shit no one gives a flying fuck about. vaporwave.
>>345513892
honestly, one of the only things that keeps me coming back is the music
I love that shit
Revelation Online seems to be the new hype but I really don't understand why it's getting so much attention. It's not next level or anything.
>>345513971
bruh, stop being a baby cuckold
learn to google, this is a good lesson for spoonfed faggots like you
>>345500513
What game is this?
>>345514680
Yeah but I despair since the publisher bringing it to the West is the same one running Skyforge in NA/EU. Not a good sign.
>>345446119
>Game looks fucking awesome.
>Friend and I want to be fishermen and buy a boat.
>DAT FUCKING FISH TANK.
>Game releases.
>People in beta already bought all the property on land and sea.
>Can't build a house or own a water plot.
>F2P is beyond limited.
>We finally scrounge enough together to buy the boat we want.
>Set sail and get ready to scuba for fish.
>A swarm of flying BR players literally noclip over to us and one shot our boat.
>Nothing but JAJAJAJA HEUEHEU in the chat even though its an English server.
>We just lost our boat and don't have the money to rebuild it.
The potential was there, but god damn beta players and rampant hackers killed that game fast.
>TFW played C9 years ago
>Tfw finally build nice computer in 2014, come back excited to it.
>tfw characters completely gone
Hold me bros
>>345515589
iktf bro
And they're just now releasing the 2nd half of Raebin. The patch is tomorrow.
>>345489412
>That feel when in beta I would be the only one left alive soloing the dragon for 20 minutes because damage was undertuned as shit.
>Went back to it a few years ago.
>Bloated mess.
rip
>>345485865
I have friends who hop with me between MMOs, and you know what I've learn.
Most MMOs are unplayable, boring shit.
>>345515917
Why did they do this to us bro.
Why
>>345493773
You heard this from Destiny.
Hes wrong. He didnt even play the fucking game for more than a month.
>>345516019
but they're comfy with Netflix
Why the fuck would you ever want to get into an MMO?
>Think I'm about to be able to enjoy the fruits of my labor after 470 hours
>Turns out I would need to spend about another 150 getting two more pieces of gear to the same level and then fucking trashing them just to upgrade one
>And afterwards I still have 9 pieces of special equipment to upgrade through RNG
I want to end my goddamn life
Anyone else TSW here?
>>345431564
That's like asking which brand of bleach to drink. Jesus Christ, OP. Get a life or kill yourself.
>>345516136
Yeah, but there's some MMOs that actual are rewarding experiences that allow for player creativity, and then there's MMOs that didn't get canceled by worst korea for no raisin.
Turn Seoul into Rain of Fire best day of my life.
>>345431564
EVE online
new hotness is Revelation Online
>>345516195
Only MMO I would still recommend in this day and age. Absolutely great quest and world design only hindered by awkward character animations and mediocre combat.
>>345516195
>try to play two separate times
>play for a long time but never get anywhere substantial and eventually lose interest
;_;
>>345516091
It's Webzen, man. I gave up figuring them out years ago. And I started playing C9 in the 2nd VIP test, before SEA was split off. I did well for myself. My illusionist has a unique and I had most classes at 50+ before the jewing and gold bots became too much. I still have friends that play it.
>>345514680
we don't yet have an action combat mmo that isn't absolute garbage.
revelation currently represents that hope, as bdo did before people figured out what it was
>>345516396
>"...none of the group quests and dungeons are mandatory for your progress."
Why does it keep happening
>>345513493
good enough for me, gonna download it now.
>>345517098
Dude, Revelation Online's combat is just B&S. It's a direct clone.
>people being hyped for Revelation Online
You guys never learn. Asians have never made a good MMO, ever.
>>345517527
Awesome, because B&S has shit tier character and world design while Revelation Online has incredible character and world design.
>>345516195
>Hear good things about it
>Pick it up with a friend and play together
>spend 7/8ths of our time split up and alone in solo instances
I can see the appeal of an MMO being able to be played as a singleplayer experience, but forcing an MMO to be singleplayer is beyond retarded.
>>345516521
What do you play now
>>345517809
what.
>>345515589
There was a character wipe?
>>345464041
THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S CALLED.
Most people ITT are post-WoW babbies who don't remember true MMO's
>people itt talking about the hot next thing called Revelation
>look it up
>first video is this https://youtu.be/GnoIRUWC_Os
Ah yes, looks great lmao.
>>345513971
honey select
Darkfall: New Dawn. Its a modified re-release of the older Darkfall Online, licenced by what were previously players as the original developer is in financial trouble (and ruined the game anyway.)
Sure, it was a somewhat flawed game to begin with, but the guys working on it now have a lot of good ideas and public testing has already started - they want to make it have more sand in the sandbox, so to speak.
If you're not familiar, Darkfall is this first person PVP focused sandbox with probably the largest handbuilt open world any MMO has had (at least that's how it was a couple of years ago.) Some of the best PVP in that game I've had in my life.
>>345485226
I feel that.
Bareass was a big guy, but he couldn't be allowed to fly.
>>345518050
>Stand in front of enemy
>hack hack
>died
I remember it, thank goodness I was smart enough to pass on that boring piece of shit.
>>345518338
oh look a post-WoW babby.
>>345517904
I bounce back and forth between TERA, BDO and occasionally B&S. I waited on BDO because it was made by C9's original devs complete with the Giant class that was scrapped from C9. Combat wise I like BDO the most but I don't care for the endgame grind and lack of max level pve. TERA is getting too cancerous even for me and B&S makes for a nice waifu sim but the bots have taken over in typical NCSoft fashion.
Is it too late for me to get into WoW if I've never played it? I'm interested in it since people keep talking about it.
>>345516195
fuck yes
>>345518485
WHy are you so mad tha I dislike you boring hack hack game?
It was boring man. I can't people thought that combat was amazing.
and the control schemes of the past..... don't even get me started.
>Playing FFXIV
>Leveling the Mining class
>Get 53 and start the 50-60 questline of Heavensward
>Mfw they actually send you mining with bodyguards storywise (they are even near the nodes)
>They don't just tell you to go mining in the most dangerous zone in the game (again storywise) without protection
>They are actually interesting to follow
Well, that's honestly a surprise.
I hope the BTN quest will be interesting too.
>>345518656
It was mediocre at release and is complete irredeemable garbage for about 7 years now.
>>345518050
Well aren't you in luck. Pantheon Online's being made by the EQ1 team. It's be social or die.
>>345436482
Isn't most of the content in the game single player?
>>345518759
Because that's not a pre-WoW MMO.
>>345518050
I feel like vanilla WoW was a close enough experience. And some aspects of BC.
>>345519013
WHat isn't a pre-WoW MMO, hack hack? All I remember is hack hack.
>hack hack
You walk up to the enemy, click on them, begin hack hack phase, pray that someone doesn't steal your shit after a long hack hack battle, repeat.
That's not pre-WoW!?!?
>>345518841
Well shit I don't know what to play now since I've only played FFXI and XIV since those games were the only ones I could play on an 8 year old PC.
>>345519197
Infantry.
Allegiance.
Both MMO's with active hitboxes, particles flying through the air and striking targets, RPG aspect included in new weapon loadouts you can buy and unlocking classes with XP.
Remember how black desert was suppose to be fantasy eve with cool combat? A shame koreans only love grinding.
>>345519453
>fantasy eve
I don't think it could ever be like eve because it's too NPC driven. BDO reads more like a large layered multiverse where every bodies different town unlocks just stack on eachother, a fairly static universe.
I've never really been a fan of eve online though, the game isn't space simulation enough for me.
>>345513150
But majority of gook games always ended up sucking. Even if it has active combat shit, it'll be a boring pile of shit.
>>345513150
>pso2
>good
Leveled my char and got 13* in a week almost year ago. Tried pretty much everything there was.
Combat is simplistic as shit. Shame.
>>345513150
DDO is too grindy with nothing really to do.
>>345519601
It wasn't supposed to be though
The original plans for the game that started all the hype were full nearly eve tier sandbox.
Like, all the currency was going to be produced by the crafting system.
>>345475447
>0 player interaction
Be fucking social and make some friends in an MMO, anon. Join a guild, help some noob, do SOMETHING, ANYTHING so that you would have at least SOME player interaction.
You might as well play a single player game if you don't want to do this, Jesus Christ.
>>345520241
>Like, all the currency was going to be produced by the crafting system.
Doesn't that seem a bit problematic? Most classical MMO's with good trade usually resort to a bartering system.
You know what the problem with action MMOs is?
That they don't compensate for the fact that the combat is fast by making it slightly less grindy or tedious. Which means you get exhausted that much faster during a play session because you have to be constantly paying attention during every single encounter or battle, even just the throw away fights vs a bear or some shit.
I just want a action MMO that understands how to balance the fact that it's an MMO with being action oriented.
You also need to have a way to execute skills and abilities without too much effort but not straight up hotkeys.
>>345520771
Its funny because casuals are 90% of the audience for everything now, not just MMOs
>>345518857
Afaik only Brad is from EQ, but then again, he's lead designer. Pantheon does look promising though. Brad already tried a similar thing with Vanguard, but it didn't pan out too well with the publisher of the time and all that.
>>345520418
He just said he doesn't like no player interaction. Can you not read?
I just want something that can replicate even 10% of what Ragnarok was like when I was a teenage. I don't want quests just throw me into a world with people and encourage me to work with them. Also global PvP.
Better Question: Is there a good MMO that will let me look like a slut and dress like a slut for as few micro payments as possible?
>>345521757
This question, but with Maid outfits, I want to be a slutty maid slave for master
>>345521732
That's why I told him to be social and make some friends in an MMO. Can you not read?
Honestly, it really, really isn't that hard at all.
>>345521757
I want to healslut but refuse to play WoW clones and that's literally all the exists.
>>345519453
See:
>>345518192
Darkfall was heavily inspirted by Shadowbane's as well as UO's and AC's PVP. For clans and alliances, its all about controlling cities in the world. And its full loot with PVP anywhere, obviously. Most people live in player created towns.
Sure, the graphics will be dated. But the New Dawn devs have some great intentions as far as game design goes.
>there will never be a good Shadowrun universe MMO
>there will never be a good MMO for World of Darkness in the vein of VTMB
>there will never be an MMO that achieves what Star Citizen originally promised to be back in the beginning
>Series ripe for MMO potential like Star Wars have had their games either cancelled or butchered and left to atrophy
>World of Warcraft continues to be the biggest and most profitable western MMO despite all its flaws and its presence stifling innovation in the industry
>Korean-style MMO's never learn from the mistakes of their predecessors and continue to fail
>Japanese MMO's like Dragon's Dogma Online and PSO2, which might have found a moderately sized home in the west, will never be localized
im sad
>>345522182
Healslutting is much harder than it looks, anon.
You can't just walk in a guild and suck everyone's dicks. It could take you hundreds of hours to find someone who's actually willing to do that kind of stuff with you.if you just want to heal then that's fine but if you want to actually become a healslut then that's an entirely different storyplay ffxiv
>>345444398
Is it just me or does she really look like kerrigan
>>345522762
I just want to heal. I like the concept of healing/support jobs but can't stand WoW gameplay so FFXIV is out.
>>345448187
Man youre so fucking lucky, I have only gotten 300kk in a week im getting desperate
>>345448187
>>345523136
can you autists please use mil and bil ty
Why the fuck do antisocial people play mmos in the first place? They have to realize that they'll be running into other people and interactions.
>>345523995
chatting and having a lot of time to come up with responses or comfortably ignore people makes it easy to get into
>no MMO will ever again have Star Wars Galaxies' system of slutty dancers hanging out in cantinas actually giving you buffs with their performance and tipping them to customize buffs best for your build or heaven forbid redesign your body/face/hair without having to pay a microtransaction to the developers first
>>345525575
Did that pre-update private server ever get finished/released?
>>345523995
MMO's help me be social in a situation where I'd otherwise have no real contact as a pathetic mentally ill NEET, since there's always the buffer zone that I'm interacting through a cute avatar and not my ugly self, and if I ever get panicky I can log out. Just knowing that helps with the nervousness and makes it easier to interact with people
>>345525767
There have been like a dozen different attempts at making Pre-CU emulators, the biggest one is still active and still being updated slowly, but even so the community is never going to ever match up to the way things were back when the game was live. Half because people think it's dead and gone and normies don't understand all the complexity of getting into a private server and half because people don't want to make the jump back to a now-outdated game from over a decade ago
>tfw I'll never have my dream of a server with all the content released even after the NGE and up til the servers shutting down, and the faster combat, but with all the Pre-NGE professions and customizing with skill points and class mixing
>>345494216
when you figure out all the aystema you realize how shallow they all are.
every single fucking thing is just an rng roll of some kind
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