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>people actually support this company
>He thinks people still play WOW
>>345411921
> Not thinking this is the best idea Blizzard has ever had
> Being such a huge faggot
>>345411921
>Talking to people in a single player game.
Why?
like that's going have any impact on this dumpster fire single player facebook skinner box
>>345411921
>He thinks being able to call everybody in trade chat a fucking nigger is okay in a T-Rated game.
>Not opting for the ANAL spam, which will still probably slide by.
ANAL [Gouge]
>>345412237
>get 50 people to report someone, which is extremely easy when you have a big guild
>that person is silence for 24 hours
Did you miss the part that you only have to report the person and there is absolutely no control over this?
This is a terrible fucking idea. The only good part about it is that they'll have to reverse really fast when it simply doesn't work the way they intended.
>people getting in trouble over this
How. How often do you people shit-talk
>>345414685
Lots of shit gets thrown around in Trade Chat, and any time someone says something political is turns into a warzone.
>>345414609
Hopefully Blizz would at least be sure to read through logs for this. They already do that for reports now.
>>345411921
>people actually get anally annihilated when they're chat restricted for being a meme spouting toxic turbo-autist
>>345412237
>>345414609
by the way before you even
>after investigation
You should familiarize yourself with how GMs deal with these things.
They don't. If enough people ask for something GMs just do it.
Me and a few officers managed to steal a guild from a Guild Master who was only gone for 1 month by just having a bunch of people in the guild report he quit the game.
>say Trump 2016
>auto silenced for 24 hours
>>345414909
fuck off chris
>>345414869
>responding to trade chat shit
Why.
>>345414910
It is a different story when the GM has access to the chat logs and can see whether shit happened or not though.
>>345415223
Just think about how many reports every server is going to get every day. You have to be the most naive person in the world to believe they won't just auto silence someone with 50+ reports for similar reasons.
>>345415223
Anon, that would imply that they're doing their jobs well. They're not - they're doing their jobs EFFICIENTLY.
>Oh, this guy got reported 25 times, I'll silence him as a warning
>>345415223
You mean the GMs that take 12+ to reply to any ticket will actually be able to handle and properly investigate?
Ok then
>>345415223
I got a 24h warning on my account for racism just by posting statistics of black vs white crime. From govt sources, not /pol/ images.
Never said niggers, never said anything racist.
>>345415835
Except that is kind of racist.
you guys do realise they just banned your account for a few days previously, right?
If you are not breaking the rules why should you be angry about it?
>>345415375
>>345415397
>>345415553
When you get banned for spouting shit they include the shit you spouted so you know how you fucked up, so yeah, they go back and look at chat logs and don't just ban on a whim, quit your fearmongering.
>>345415972
Statistics from government sources are racist? Stating a provable fact is racist?
Fuck you
Every single time, for the last seven years, that I've thought to myself 'geez, there's no way Blizzard could make WoW any LESS of a social experience' they go ahead and prove me wrong.
Like, I'm not even mad anymore. I'm actually impressed at this point.
>>345416086
because it's a system that can and will be abused and since GMs are lazy this will either just not work or be handled by a bot.
>>345416093
>When you get banned for spouting shit they include the shit you spouted so you know how you fucked up
They don't. I just got a general, your acc was temporarily suspended for racist behavior.
>>345416120
Racist literally means to discriminate by race. Most people have adopted the negative connotation on their own. Claiming that races are different is actually racism. Doesn't mean it's wrong.
>>345411921
>people are trying to use this to bait people into threads.
>no one actually cares
>>345416192
I'm going to go ahead and call it now: the biggest announcement at BlizzCon 2016 is going to be an offline singleplayer mode for WoW.
>>345411921
>before
>say "ur gay lol" in /trade
>50 people report you
>get banned from the entire game for 3 days
>now
>say "ur gay lol" in /trade
>50 people report you
>get chat restricted for 3 days
why are people complaining?
>>345411921
>what is vent
>>345416437
I wasn't discriminating by race. I was stating a fact and provided the evidence to back it up.
>>345416523
Because the first thing you mentioned actually never happened
>>345411921
hi dumbass
this works the same as 'muted cd key' did back in starcraft 1 days.
it's literally exactly the fucking same as being muted on bnet.
"you can keep playing its ok1 lol!!"
>After investigation
So like HoTS 'after investigation' then
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19818500/introducing-new-reporting-options-and-the-silence-penalty-9-7-2015
https://twitter.com/DustinBrowder/status/643956704489504768?s=09
>>345416563
so you were not recognizing a difference between whites and blacks? do whites and blacks have the same crime rate?
>>345416563
Discriminate
(intransitive) To make distinctions.
Since he was colorblind he was unable to discriminate between the blue and green bottles.
(intransitive, construed with against) To make decisions based on prejudice.
The law prohibits discriminating against people based on their skin color.
(transitive) To set apart as being different; to mark as different; to separate from another by discerning differences; to distinguish.
>>345414909
>"""" toxic """""
go and stay go
>>345416437
>Claiming that races are different is actually racism.
You sound college educated.
>>345411921
>implying any of this matters
People don't talk to other people on WoW anymore as it is.
>>345416836
>>345416868
I forgot how autistic this place was. Thank you two for reminding me.
>>345416685
im australlian. ive been perma banned for language, albeit much worse than "ur gay lol"
>>345416836
Yeah, you discriminated when you're deciding what to have for dinner.
You neo-bolsheviks and your fucking word games, it's faggots like you who are going to abuse this new system and make paying customers so pissed they're getting squelched for innocuous things just because their opinions offended your bleeding little heart. Have fun while it lasts, you hypocrite.
>>345416904
Like I said, you're confusing my definition with the colloquial one. A black person saying that pointing out crime statistics is racist is correct. Doesn't mean it's bad to do so.
>>345416986
im not autistic i was merely stating a fact
>>345417009
>albeit much worse than "ur gay lol"
OK, you're gonna have to tell us what you said because I have said a lot of racist shit and the most I ever got was 1 week ban
>>345417105
>A black person saying that pointing out crime statistics is racist is correct
No it isn't, that's just claptrap. You're a stooge and a useful idiot for even giving weight to that line of thinking.
>>345411921
>act like a fucktard
>get muted
No problem here
>talking to people outside of guild/raid/whisper
Who the fuck does that?
>>345417105
>pointing out crime statistics is racist is correct
jesus christ
when did /v/ became tumblr?
Anyone actually defending this is obviously a paid shill.
>>345415835
Why are you even talking about that shit in WoW?
>>345417192
I understand that your definition of the word is different than mine. I'm happy to know that mine is the one recognized by the dictionary.
>>345417238
Can you fucking read the last part of my post? Since when has tumblr said racism is good?
>>345417238
did you read the rest of his sentence? its technically racist, but that doesnt mean it is bad, nor does it mean racism is bad
kill yourself dumbass
>>345417332
I have no idea how the discussion started since it was 3 years ago back when I still played the game but someone was spouting something similar to what BLM says today and I pointed out that blacks commit more crime.
>>345411921
No one cares on the General Forums I see.
>>345417476
>>345417463
It is not technically racist
you're interpreting words in a vacuum. That's not how language works.
>>345415835
Thanks for proving the system works, shit posting like that should stay on /pol/ and away from my fucking games. Trying to bury my head in the sand and fuckers like you wont let me live in peace.
The only people I've seen complaining about are the same people who scream NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in chat.
>>345417341
>I'm happy to know that mine is the one recognized by the dictionary.
Neo-Bolshevik word games.
>>345417648
You realize dictionaries account for context right? No one would believe that a word must always mean only one thing. But the definition clearly fits the description. Racism is a hated word these days, but it's just a word. Any connotations are not part of the definition.
>>345417740
>Stating facts should get you banned/muted because I hate reality
>>345416986
You posted statistics of differences between races. What was your end goal? I doubt it was anything positive. The statistics you linked by themselves are not racist, but in context with your action (linking them in-game likely for the purpose of causing racism), the ban makes sense.
>>345417786
I understand your point and I disagree.
>>345417819
>You realize dictionaries account for context right?
And yet you making a choice to ignore it.
>>345417852
Why are you bringing political issues to a fictional fantasy land where people are trying to escape their every day lives?
>>345414869
>Hopefully Blizz would at least be sure to read through logs for this.
LOL
It will be an automated system you moron.
>>345416719
hello autism
>>345411921
>Silenced Players Are Unable to:
>-Send Party Invitations
>Silenced Players Are Able To:
>-Create Parties and Raids
What am I missing here?
>>345417917
Like I said the discussion was 3 years ago but the person said something like
Person said
>Police persecutes blacks because they are racist
I replied
>no it's because they commit more crime
They said
>no they don't
and I linked the statistics
2 days later 24 hour ban
Wasn't even trade chat it was a raid or something
>>345417819
Go look up the definition of fascism. Some dictionaries make the claim that fascism is right-wing, while others do not make that distinction.
Ignorance is strength.
>>345417965
You're confusing context for connotation.
I don't understand what end objective all of you are trying to reach. You want to fight to get racial slurs to get whitelisted?
>>345418198
Your confusing being pedantic cunt with arguing a point
>>345418160
probably means you cant send party invites to randoms, but you can still create a party/raid by inviting a friend or making a listing on the group finder
>>345418185
I believe fascism is not inherently right wing. I would disregard a dictionary that says otherwise. Just as your definition is to be discarded.
>/v/ angry the banter will have to stop and being actually fucking friendly for once
/v/, the site stops when you go to another page or click the red x
WoW is not /v/
FFXIV is not /v/
Graal Online is not /v/
Skyforge is not /v/
Guild Wars 2- Okay that shit IS /v/
>>345418238
The system will be automated just like HotS.
People will abuse and get other silenced
That's the argument before some idiot decided to argue dictionary definition of racism
>>345418278
his point was that it technically was racist
i dont understand what your point is
>>345414910
>group of officers report inactive guild leader
>leadership is transferred to an officer
>???
>LOOK AT THIS TRAVESTY
>>345412237
preventing people from talking shit to shit players is a bad idea. all this does is caters to the <15 year olds who play the game
Some of you don't understand the gravity of the situation.
There will be no 'investigation'
It will be an automated system like everything else.
Enjoy being spam muted if you troll at all.
>>345418278
>you're not pointing out flaws in my argument, you're just being a pedantic cunt
Dismissed.
>>345418181
Not that guy, but how will the stats prove your point?
You could easily argue that they only "commit" more crime because the police report it that way.
>>345411921
>being silenced is somehow worse than being banned
>/v/ logic
>>345418391
What is the definition of racism that most SOCJUS faggots use these days anyway? I've lost track, since it seems to broaden every time a cop shoots a black man.
>>345418408
He wasn't inactive. The guy was moving, he told us but the officers didn't like him and most of the guild didn't as well but we did like the guild bank and free repairs
>>345418376
>the banter stops when you go to another page or click the red x
So you have never played an online game before?
All this does is make it so blizzard doesn't have to think twice before banning you.
DESU, this is a crueler system then the one they currently have because
>Playing MMOs alone
Is the shittiest experience anyone can have playing video games.
>>345416883
>OMG i got punished for acting like a small child!
>why can't I spout my le epic memes xDD nigger nigger le hitler for president 2016 hehehe XD!! le cake is le lie nigger nigger dxdd!!
paint the wall with a 12 gauge and your grey matter you waste of life
>>345418478
Those are stats for convictions. Are you honestly saying white people are robbing and dealing as much drug as blacks but just not being convicted?
>>345418482
>implying muting won't be applied more liberally than bans because people like you don't think it's as bad
>>345418482
>I can't read a thread full of reasons
It's past your bed time.
>>345418472
I got spam banned when I dared to argue against the implementation of flying mounts in Draenor. I opened a ticket, then a GM reversed it and apologized.
You're damn right leftists are going to use this system to silence any and all challenges to their narratives, like they've done everywhere else in the current year.
>>345411921
>Its another newfags and people who never played wow think that there werent chat suspensions before this episode.
Sorry your childhood was so shit that you didnt get to play WoW in its prime in highschool OP
>>345418640
u r the 1 who is a waste of life here m8
Sounds good to me.
>>345418640
see
>>345416823
it will go more like
>a bunch of 12y olds got me silenced because I called them out for being bad
>>345418714
>I opened a ticket, then a GM reversed it and apologized.
>>345417740
>WAAAAH FACTS ARE RACISTS
>HOW DARE YOU CITE STATISTICS THAT WE DONT LIKE
Beta cuckolds are the funniest posters
>>345418714
im no leftist but i will use this to meta troll weak trollers. the best way to troll people is to report them. good trollers dont say anything reportable yet still get a good rise out of people
>>345418664
>Are you honestly saying white people are robbing and dealing as much drug as blacks but just not being convicted?
You won't be convicted if you're not arrested. Use your brain.
And stick your personal incredulity up your arse, that's not how you argue.
>>345418747
>he doesn't realize it will be used for simply looking at another player wrongly now
Fuck off.
>>345418710
>implying I'm going to read a bunch of whiny autistic getting bootyblast over a mute punishment that only applies to whiny little meme spouting autistic that can't keep their persona opinions about race, politics and sexuality, to themselves
>>345418785
>heroes of the storm
>literally who twitter post
who fucking cares?
>>345418952
triggered?
>>345418538
>Anyone I hate or any statement I don't 100% agree with.
It's pretty simple really.
>>345418926
The person made a claim without any evidence. I replied and actually went out of my way to actually provide evidence but somehow I'm the one that has to prove a negative.
How about fuck you
>>345419007
>literally who twitter post
He's the game director of SC2 and HotS. They are implementing the exact same feature on WoW.
You get muted for multiple reports and then you appeal to prove your innocence.
>>345419059
good rebuttal
can you leave now? literally nobody gives a shit about what you have to post
>>345418952
it applies to anybody who gets reported multiple times
>waaaaah I can't call someone a nigger
>>345419165
>SC2 and HotS
>aka shit skinner box ''''''''''''strategy games'''''''''''''
again, literally who
>>345419349
I literally just explained to you who he is and why it is relevant.
>Blizzard continues to kill social interaction
What else is new?
>>345419329
More like.
>waaaah all these people who have opinions that aren't mine keep talking
>>345419069
>I replied and actually went out of my way to actually provide evidence
What evidence?
>>345411921
>banning nignogs for speaking their black lingo is a bad thing
how is banning the poor and worthless members of society a bad thing?
>>345419189
>too dipshit retarded to read a couple of posts
>does nothing but insult the whole thread with his autism
>WOOOOW NICE "ARGUMENT"
Fuck off.
>>345418926
Provide any evidence at all that white people are commiting enough blue collar crime and just not being arrested to actually make a statistical difference. If you have no evidence for this claim, you are beyond retarded and should kill yourself.
Niggers are arrested more often because they commit way more crime. Im so sorry this triggers you but even niggers know it
>>345417982
because grow up retard
>>345419514
yeah sure you can have whatever opinion you want, problem is I don't want your autistic manchild spouting to shit up my chat in a game that has nothing to do with your worthless opinions
>>345411921
>I'm unlikable and want to talk about politics and be rude in the public chat channels of a video game
You may need to get over the fact that people would love it if blizzard would save them the trouble of silencing you. You make this game worse, your attitude is not wanted regardless of your beliefs.
>>345419575
the statistics
The person made a claim and provided no evidence, I made a counter argument and provided evidence. So why do you have me trying to prove a negative but not the person trying to prove their original claim.
>>345414609
>Ticket a GM
>Why am I squelched?
>GM checks and clears up the situation players that caused it would probably get squelched themselves or a temp ban.
Oh jesus, yeah what a terrible fucking fate.
>>345414910
>Take a guild from an inactive Guild Master.
Oh yeah I'm sure that GM really just broke all the rules there.
>>345418539
It doesn't matter, the game even has an automated system that allows you to take guild control from inactive GMs.
Stop being a retard.
>>345419514
A commercial product is not a forum for free speech and has never been one. Blizzard are looking after their business interest as they always have done, and it's
>>345419609
wait, the thread is your argument? you actually believe what the retarded children here say?
wow, you really are waaaaayy fucking stupider than i thought at first
>>345419713
>i reserve the right to silence people that i don't want to hear from
You can just look away, it's really easy to not get triggered.
Dustin Browder @DustinBrowder 15 Sep 2015
@LanaDelCrayHotS @Kane_Life We can check chat logs. So far nobody has appealed who did not deserve the silence
I imagine there is going to be a similar appeal process?
>>345419778
>GM checks and clears up the situation players that caused it would probably get squelched themselves or a temp ban.
12-48h later
>>345419784
blizzard is bleeding so many subs at this point they are beyond retarded if they keep banning people for trivial things. THEY NEED SUBS and the amount of people they will lose from retarded bans is a lot more than people that wont play because of trolls. EVERYONE knows you can mute someone you dont like. EVERYONE knows that
>>345419854
I do in a videogame owned by a private company that decides to let me report and squelch stupid little raging shits like you.
mad?
>>345419778
>Oh yeah I'm sure that GM really just broke all the rules there.
Well after he came back he managed to get his guild back but yes the GM did that.
>the game even has an automated system that allows you to take guild control from inactive GMs
That was way before that system was implemented.
>>345419854
It's a video game man. Go post your edgy shit on the other chan where people want to hear it.
>We know that we already have systems in place to suspend and ban, spammers, harrasment, and other things in the game
>But we're adding in this unnecessary 3rd option so we don't have to have as many interns review potential bannings, instead we'll just silence mass reports so no one's feelins get hurt
So, is blizzard trying to hit sub 1 million players?
>>345419784
They're caving into the current political climate of unpleasant facts need to be erased from the discussion. It's ironic when these same people are the ones who keep parroting 'we need to have a discussion'.
Oh well, it's their dying franchise, this decision just makes it easier for me to not get sucked into it again once Legion comes out.
>>345419784
by limiting the enjoyment of people who want to have fun talking to other people? ur dumb
>>345419908
You would think that, but the problem is how you measure it. All Blizzard can track is people quitting the game and complaining. How can they track how many people never subscribed for any given aspect of the game?
>>345419908
Except this lets you keep playing instead of straight up banning your account like before. It's literally less oppressive
>b-but I just called him shit and a faggot and sperged out :(
newsflash if you talk as if you were on 4chan you deserve to be muted you sack of shit
>>345420008
>>345419986
More smug neo-bolshevik shills who think they're on the right side of history.
Real world politics isn't the only thing that will be used as an excuse to mute people, the amount of rage that comes out of class balance discussions will result in people getting banned because they want X class buffed or nerfed.
>>345420029
No they're not. You're applying your own narrative to a system that has been in place in one form or another since 2006
>>345419778
You realize it can take up to a week to get a reply from a GM during a new xpac/patch right? And even when it doesn't take that long it will certainly take more than the mute time to hear back from them
>>345420043
Yes, everyone is having so much fun listening to you call people nigger cuckservatives
>>345419867
I've never waited more than an hour.
>>345419993
>That was way before that system was implemented.
It doesn't matter, because Blizzard's stance on inactive Guild Masters has been that way since BC.
You and your group of officers didn't goad the GM into doing anything different than he would have anyway. Do you really think GMs just do whatever a large group asks them? Are you that retarded?
>>345419769
>the statistics
where
>>345420180
It wasn't automated before. It is now.
>>345420084
i gurantee the threshhold they will use for muting people will be a lot more lenient than bans were and all trade and global chats will become safespaces where everyone is too afraid to offend anyone and the game will continue to die.
I played on a few private servers and its always the same thing: some sjw mod comes along and starts banning lots of people for saying "offensive things", the community starts to become barren and quiet, and the server just dies.
>Force competitive elements in the game
>Punishes players for being competitive
>>345420306
>needs 50 people
>can still appeal
Oh no, what am I going to do now that I can't turn trade chat into /pol/!
>>345420282
>I've never waited more than an hour.
You never played this fucking game then. Because I never waited less than 6 hours.
>>345420178
are you trying to group me into your little box so you can silence and control me? sounds like something a neo-bolshevik shill who thinks they're on the right side of history would say
do your parents a favor and jump off of a fucking cliff, kid
>>345420236
So there's a span of about two weeks every 24-28 months where this system might run into some problems.
What a crime against humanity.
>>345420084
>implying they won't also be banning people
>>345412237
> Being such a huge faggot
WHOA THERE ANON DO YOU WANT TO GET SILENCED?
>these are the people the system was designed for
>>345416836
I'm sure it was to somehow try to prove a point that black people are somehow inherently worse than white people, and I'm sure you glossed over the fact that black people have been pushed into low income neighborhoods for decades and not given the same opportunities as white people even after the civil rights movement, but you can go ahead and post your "government facts" all day, just not in WoW.
>>345420282
Before the system blizzard would give the guild away even after way longer than 6 months so you're wrong.
>>345420328
>I personally believe Blizzard's standards are going to change despite having no evidence to prove it
Kek
They should add this system to /v/ so there would be no threads ever.
>>345420396
>needs 50 people
No it needs multiple people
>can still appeal
by the time they get back at you your mute is gone anyway
>>345418472
>Enjoy being spam muted if you troll at all.
Well, it's a good thing I don't actively troll people like a douche-bag.
>>345420424
Those banned players aren't coming back if they feel it's unjust. Two weeks of random bans is terrible PR.
>>345420501
>i personally believe blizzards standards will change based on the fact the silence punishment is automated
fixed that for you
>>345420424
>And even when it doesn't take that long it will certainly take more than the mute time to hear back from them
>>345420328
Yes, a video game is generally designed to be a """safe space""" instead of a forum for people to be abused for their political opinion. More news at 11
>>345411921
Great now do the same for Overwatch
>>345420578
b-but you dont understand the GRAVITY of it
>>345420613
>what are appeals
>"b-b-but muh wait times"
>implying they won't drop with the new system
If this was released in 2004 WOW would have never taken off like it did.
But hey, running WOW into the ground seems to be blizzards big deal now, they don't want to dev for a 12 year old game despite the investors just wanting more WOW out of them.
>>345411921
I don't believe for a second that this won't be automated
>>345420180
It's just more of the same. Facebook deleting things and banning people for being politically incorrect, twitter too, companies firing people because BLM doxxed them when they were critical of BLM on social media.
This is the slow creep of fascism.
You'd be pissed if it was your opinions these policies were targeted at, you'd cry like all those people during the 90's did about the oppressive Christians and their puritan points of view, all the power and sway they had over businesses back then with their boycotts and rhetoric.
Now you're 'the man', now you're on the right side of history and all that's left to do now is make sure everyone who has a counter point is silenced.
So just continue being smug assholes about it.
>What, you're disagreeing with us?
>You're being toxic
>Yeah this guy isn't going to shut up guys, just report and move on
>Enjoy your mute
This is how it will play out
>>345420397
The longest I ever waited for a response was back in classic when I was trying to get my Murky code fixed, and that took about a day.
Everything in the last twelve-odd years has been under three hours sorry you had to wait six whole hours.
>>345420484
Definitely not, as I took over a BWL guild with only a 3 month period of inactivity from a GM.
>>345420404
Give yourself a turpentine enema.
>>345420648
>unironically defending safe spaces
If people cant handle interacting with other people and hearing things they dont like, they should stop playing multiplayer games. Catering to those kinds of casual sjw's is what got blizzard into this mess in the first place.
>>345420760
>>what are appeals
wait times take days usually
>implying they won't drop with the new system
they wont and the amount of shilling you are doing for blizzard is beyond pathetic desu.
>>345420797
Every company does this because they have a product that they're trying to make appealing for a market niche. You can go post shit on /pol/ right now if you like and Zuckerberg won't stop you
>instead of giving people bans they just turn off chat features
>so even if you're being a raging faggot you can still play the game
lad
>>345420797
these are private institution, you still have a 'right' to go outside and be a fucking autistic mongaloid if you want
doesn't mean people won't treat you like an actual autist, though
also
>le everything is politics!!
>>>/pol/
>>345420970
Don't you see? It's clearly FASCIST SJW SHIT
>>345420935
>If people cant handle interacting with other people and hearing things they dont like, they should stop playing multiplayer games.
Yeah, but you should also be playing the game instead of spouting political nonsense.
>>345420958
Thanks for passively acknowledging this policy and system has to do with silencing certain political and philosophical points of views.
>>345420760
Its true, no one will be playing this shitty game if they're banned just for talking.
>>345420970
After being muted a lot in Dota 2 I can assure you being banned is a lot more preferable.
>>345421060
>People who act like antisocial niggers get a penalty
>Somehow a bad thing
???????
?????????????
>>345421015
>>le everything is politics!!
Everything is politics. The fact you dont understand how interconnected everthing is shows how naive you are. There is no hiding from politics. Its absolutely everywhere. Its politics that makes it ok to say certain things in video games and not other things. Its politics that makes game companies censor things so as not to "offend" anyone. Its politics that forces companies to shove DIVERSITY down your throat in video games where it just completely ruins the series.
>own a restaurant
>pride myself on the way it provides a social experience
>guy comes in and starts calling everyone a nigger cuck
>instead of kicking him out I let him keep eating so long as he is quiet
>>345421015
You clearly don't get the obvious point I'm making, and I can't simplify it any further for someone as dimwitted and obstinate as you to grasp. Enjoy your ignorance.
>>345420901
Sure, just as soon as you toe trigger both barrels into your brain bunker, bubba;)
>>345421079
>but you should also be playing the game instead of spouting political nonsense.
why not both?
>after investigation
I see no problem here.
>>345421272
>trusting blizzard to actually investigate when the gm ticket wait times are already abysmal
You must be 18 years old to post on this website.
>>345421174
>Its politics that forces companies to shove DIVERSITY down your throat in video games where it just completely ruins the series.
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
>>345421174
politics are just an extension of social acceptibility, just like there are laws where you can't tresspass on someones private property to take a big shit, there are 'rules' in vidya that say you can't act like a fucking idiot otherwise you get punished
it's called being a generally reasonable and nice person, dipshit. this is beyond your /pol/ tinfoil 'fascist' shittery
>>345421248
if you want to make a game about spouting political nonsense, go right ahead.
>>345421341
>WAAAAAAH STOP SAYING THINGS I DONT LIKE
what are you gonna try to get me muted? Go cry somewhere else.
>>345411921
Hmm....this is about 9 years late......
Also this is going to blow up the community on the RP servers, which is why it was never implemented until apparently now....
Also, if its chat moderation you want to filter to a point/degree, why not just have more GM's like you used to have Blizzard?
>>345421179
>every time these passive aggressive posts are made the ip counter stays the same
How much they paying you?
>>345421319
literally ever ticket i've ever opened has been resolved in a day or less
are you thinking of valve, or something?
>>345421403
How new are you to not realize World of Warcraft is literally all about politics? Like literally, every patch the politics change, people do shit to eachother, leaders backstab eachother, etc etc.
Fucking kill yourself.
>>345421413
NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR SHITTY CAUSE YOU FEDORA TIPPING AUTIST
KYS
>>345421197
yeah, you're right. It's pretty hard to understand what you babbling pol fuckwits are trying to say half of the time. Has anyone ever told you you're right? this must be a first.
don't you have a containment board to be making sweden threads in?
>>345411921
I no longer say a single word to anyone outside my friends and guild.
I hope large amounts of people get silenced.
>>345421527
>World of Warcraft is literally all about politics
Is it all about spouting political nonsense though? Is that what the game is?
>>345421413
wait, I can't mute you here?
its............. almost like.... companies....... can choose.... whether or not....... to mute people.... for what they say.......
....whoa.......................
>>345421384
You're such a bigot you can't differentiate between your fantasies of '/pol/ shitposting tinfoil shittery' and reasonable public discourse. You just lump everything you don't like into your little /pol/ trashcan like a narrow minded little fool.
Have you tried not being a cunt? You realize if you get reported enough times for you to be punished you are basically asking for it right? Are you so heavily entrenched in hyperbole that you can't be unfriendly without being inflammatory? If the only way for you to articulate your dislike of someone is to tell them to kill themselves or read off a list of derogatory terms then you need to get an imagination.
This only punishes the moronic who are too stupid to cleverly insult people they don't like.
>addressing something that hasn't really been a problem ever at the end of the game's life cycle
oh wow great update Blizzard you sure nailed that one
>>345421707
>You just lump everything you don't like into your little /pol/ trashcan like a narrow minded little fool.
>>345421413
>>345421319
less than a day is pretty good considering they have probably dozens of thousands of reports at any given time.
they may put in an automated system if it finds keywords like "nigger", "fuck you", "kike", etc. but some harassment is a little more personal or complicated so this whole system will just allow players to be silenced for being dickheads on purpose. hardly anyone is going to be accidentally silenced, and i'm sure a quick appeal will get it removed if there's a mistake.
>>345421689
Are you unironcally saying WoW isnt all about Politics? Look at the fucking horde. They are the most dysfunctional alliance ever created, they betray eachother all the time, they have to find a new warchief almost every expansion because of politics. etc etc etc.
Do you just not understand what politics are? Have your balls dropped yet?
>>345411921
I got this penalty in Nostalrius once. Was for like three days. Couldn't even emote or use chat commands.
>>345421906
>left fisted swedish kid
what did he mean by this?
GMs have been able to silence players since the beginning, why is this news?
>>345421719
>differentiate between your fantasies of '/pol/ shitposting tinfoil shittery' and reasonable public discourse
anon-sama, a-are you actually trying to tell me they aren't mutually exclusive?
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
I'll link it again, since you're obviously too fucking dumb to find it yourself
>>>/pol/
>>345421906
LITTERALLY
DID
NOTHING
WRONG
>>345422009
>a-are you actually trying to tell me
That you're a thoughtless goon and a bigot.
>>345420395
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>345419908
it's not a ban, it's a silence.
>>345421906
Gee I wonder why this happened
>>345422393
Being silenced in an MMORPG is pretty close to getting banned.
They did this so that people would hopefully stay subscribed and addicted while also squelching thought crime.
>>345422526
>thought crime.
is this what you really think the intended purpose of the system is? because there's expressing an opinion and there's being a shitbag with no filter. blizzard isn't doing anything unethical with this system.
>>345422526
???
If I am playing WoW with anybody that is actually worth talking to I'll be in some chat service like skype, discord, or TS. A chat ban would have 0 effect
>>345422526
>thought crime
kek
KEK
K-E-K
It's a fucking video game man
>>345420467
>affirmative action up the ass
>not given a fair chance
Holy fuck you're fucking stupid. It's not a problem for the governent to solve, it's a clear cultural problem blacks have to solve on their own. Fuck off with your liberal bullshit.
>>345422620
Like I stated earlier, I got banned from the forums during the flying mount shit storm because I was arguing against them adding flying mounts to Draenor.
It is unethical because it's easily abused by people who don't work for Blizzard but have their own politics they wish to enforce and don't shy away from exploiting systems to meet those goals. It's not that I'm worried about Blizzard punishing people for thought crime, they've conveniently placed themselves outside of the system by letting the game population 'self regulate'.
If the current political climate was flipped, you'd get the same complaints, but just from the other side.
>>345422697
>It's a fucking video game man
No, it's people interacting with one another over the internet.
Some sneetches have stars upon thars.
>>345422786
It's more of a class problem, and blacks happen to be the bulk of the lower class because of past racism.
This is an objective fact and you can't argue it.
>>345422831
good thing you had an appeal then
>>345422916
>it's people interacting with one another over the internet
yeah, on a videogame
>>345422916
Facilitated by a video game
>>345411921
Well if you don't like the policies they want in their own game maybe you shouldn't be playing it, you won't be missed
>>345422917
And I agree. However, saying that they have no opportunities is bullshit. They are the ones who can most easily elevate themselves out of being poor because of all the government programs that force corporations and schools to diversify. You don't even have to try as hard, just be black.
Them not taking advantage of that is a cultural problem
>>345422917
Black communities were less criminalized, and black families were more intact before welfare. State sponsored welfare is the core of the problem, not racism.
>inb4 ignorant history revisionists call me a racist
Yeah yeah, I know that's the only weapon in your arsenal, stuff it up your ass.
What I would like to see someone answer is how the black community got so bad in recent years with criminality and broken families, and poor education, when there are so many programs and laws in place that strongly discourage racism to the point of ruining a person's livelihood for being 'racist'. They have so many bones thrown to them and they just keep getting worse, but all I hear is it's poverty and they need more money for programs, they get more money for those programs and they wind up worse and worse.
Maybe these 'programs' aren't having the desired effect.
>>345422916
>World of Warcraft is not a video game
sometimes i forget how fucking stupid some people are on this website
>>345422831
the context of what you said is very important here. simply disagreeing in a civil manner is not nearly enough to warrant a silence on its own. even if you did somehow get silenced for offering pleasant discourse, just appeal it.
>>345423345
>even if you did somehow get silenced for offering pleasant discourse, just appeal it.
Like someone else said, by the time they get to you, the 24 hour silence will be up.
I wonder how many people they're going to have to hire just to deal with all these appeals due to the inevitable abuse of the system.
>>345420463
>1 retweet
>It was himself
Are people finally getting sick of his shit?
>>345423868
There are still a few faggots who swallow this nonsense, just look at this thread.
>waaaaaah I can't constantly annoy people constantly and people can punish me for acting like a cunt
Truly a tragedy
>>345423329
>State sponsored welfare is the core of the problem
i'd appreciate your explanation of this
>how the black community got so bad in recent years with criminality and broken families, and poor education
the south is shit, clinton's policies were shit, our penal system focuses on punishment rather than reform, the list goes on
>>345411921
>unable to send mail
>unable to send gold/account-bound items between characters
>>345417071
>Using the dictionary definition of words
>Word games
Jesus christ
>>345424284
>i'd appreciate your explanation of this
They've had so much welfare given to them and they just keep getting worse, that's explanation enough.
>MoP will be better than Cata!
>WoD will be better than MoP
>Legion will be better than WoD!
>>345419349
Cause you're such a big shot and made so many great games that sold millions right anon? ;^)
>>345424550
For example.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Compare that definition to Google's definition.
>>345411921
Don't be a tool. Avoid the problem.
>"Imma 'Merikan! Igots teh freedumb of speeech!"
>>345424693
Is this thread about me? I'm honored.Just kidding, I'm not. Hang yourself numbskull.
>>345424562
>>MoP will be better than Cata!
>>Legion will be better than WoD!
These two are correct
>>345424725
The google definition literally says >(in general use)
Which is true, that is how people generally use it
>>345424807
Lots of people pronounce 'ask' as 'axe', which is correct?
>>345424805
Thread wasn't about him either fuckwit, don't call people whos when your a little faggot.
>>345424806
>panda shit
>better than anything
it was better than WoD, and legion is just throwing out the big lore names to get back subs
>Emerald dream went from an entire world, to a 5 man dungeon
>this is somehow an improvement
Just cuck my shit up phamalam
>>345424880
It might be in 50 years. Most people pronounce the t in often even though it's silent.
Words change with time and dictionaries have to keep up. Whether you agree with that or not doesn't really matter, because you won't be able to communicate with the rest of the world if you don't use their definitions.
>>345424880
Depends on where you live.
In New Zealand and South Africa they pronounce an i as a u. That's correct there but incorrect elsewhere.
Your analogy is shit
>>345424975
>Words change with time and dictionaries have to keep up. Whether you agree with that or not doesn't really matter, because you won't be able to communicate with the rest of the world if you don't use their definitions.
And this process is completely free from political meddling, it happens in a vacuum that is totally free from prejudice and bias, and remains pure no matter the current political climate.
>>345425004
You're shit, try to keep up.
>>345424943
Thing is, I never purported myself to be some big deal. Don't shit up threads with your little no-name indie dev autists who make skinner box games for 12 year olds and act like I'm obligated to give an everloving fuck about what they have to say.
>>345424968
But MoP WAS better than Cata, on the whole.
I invite you to go back and play any Cata dungeons or raids.Though, in fairness, I'll concede that Skywall's aesthetic was pretty nice.
>/v/ literally debating semantics
>>345425273
>don't have a discussion about ethics in videogames
>just be dumb like me
>>345425523
The basis of the argument isn't necessarily the problem, but the individuals arguing.
I wouldn't trust /v/ to form reasonable positions on video games in general, let alone a branch of philosophy concerning language and its meaning.
>>345425086
>And this process is completely free from political meddling, it happens in a vacuum that is totally free from prejudice and bias, and remains pure no matter the current political climate.
That's rather conspiratorial isn't it? Can you prove there has been political meddling in changing dictionary definitions?
>>345425670
who cares what you think? leave
>>345425273
>Two people find out they are using different definitions of a word in their discussion and so the argument didn't make sense
>Switch to arguing about words instead
Happens every fucking time
This only affects spergy manchildren and spammers, why would I view this as a negative?
>>345425731
No.
Ethics, as a field of study, has been debated for millennia, and is exceedingly well established. This thread - however you choose to categorize it - hardly fits the bill.
>>345418418
Maybe you should stop being so salty all the time that you have the urge to keep shittalking.
>>345425891
Precedent, I suppose. The "spam and abuse" of today could just as well become the thought crimes of tomorrow, when dissenting opinion is arbitrarily silenced outright.
>>345425891
why would you play this game in the first place?
>>345426254
I'm fairly certain they mean to silence people who throw fits and insult people when they are angry or acting like an ass in Trade chat. I really don't think this will affect me in the slightest outside of not having to listen to angry dorks. I don't know why /v/ has to make "issues" of everything.
>>345426283
I just enjoy it, I guess, it has its faults but I think it's fun. I like to RP too.
>>345426254
This desu.
Also just words and there are already plenty of ways to ignore/block people currently. This is just to peddle to faggots and their 'toxicity' mindset that anything they deem 'wrong' needs to be shunned and or silenced.
Which is unAmerican.
>>345426254
You're fucking retarded
>Prepatch out in less than 2 days
Rest in pepperoni tanks
>>345426449
People already get banned for toxic behavior, I think this is just a more profitable solution for them, keeps people playing.
>>345426418
>I like to RP too.
so you are one of these people. I see
>>345426491
C+ for effort.
Apply yourself next time.
>>345418025
Yeah, also Overwatch is totally gonna have you buy heros for real money and the cash shop is sooner or later totally gonna sell in-game power guise, I swear. No, totally. Stop laughing.
>>345426617
People who use punctuation for effect but don't punctuate the rest of their sentence trigger me pretty hard.
>>345426617
The nigga posts with an anime avatar.
Of course he's one of those people.
>people unironically still play wow
>>345411921
Its amazing that the people defending it are using words like "faggot" and "nigger", how do they not see the irony?
>>345426830
>Not just fapping to goat-sluts onF-list.
I will admit Warcraft and WoW gave us some gud fap material.
>That one furry lewd of the Tauren hugging her lion pet with fuck-me eyes that was straight up on the WoW website's gallery.
Boners for days man.
Fuck.
The hugbox is going to win.I hate you /v/.
>It's another "gamer issues" thread.
lmbo
>>345426989
Uh-oh you can't say Nigger in trade chat anymore
MUH CONSTITUTION
>>345411921
People who are still playing WoW are cancer. They are stupid retard faggots who shouldn't be allowed to use oxygen. WoW died when Cata was launched. Dumbed down and streamlined.
Reporting stupid and loud people in public chat was always funny, back when people still played WoW.
>>345427089
You could never say nigger in trade chat you mouth breathing mongoloid. You one dimensional morons can't say anything that isn't a strawman.
>>345427089
More like you can't be rude, at all, or have opinions some fag mistakes for trolling/just doesn't like.
Yeah, that sounds nice & pleasant. But it is censorship and it reinforces the mentality that people have a right to never be offended.
Which is childish bullshit.
>>345427236
You're right, but this streamlines the reporting process for that significantly. Meaning people that didn't previously get punished for it are much more likely to.
>>345427292
Opinions someone doesn't like are very different from abusive chat, we've yet to see this enforced yet so we don't really know how strict they are going to be.
>>345411921
Chinese bot enabler.
>>345427415
>Meaning people that didn't previously get punished for it are much more likely to.
If someone took the time to right click and report for language, they got suspended, this doesn't streamline it, it just makes it more exploitable by meta trolls and demagogues.
>punishing people for saying things
Am I the only one who thinks this mentality is the childish one?
>>345427178
now you can get that guy banned for being rude about your beliefs. The problem is which of you will get banned first
>>345427415
Show proof that you, or anyone you know, has ever been banned for an opinion that wasn't stated between impotent rage.
No /v/ 'for the gamer' infographics please.
i want to go back
>>345427578
>he thinks a company will take a conservative's side
>in 2016
I'd call you naive, but I'm certain your comment was in jest.
>>345427178
>Trump
>Brexit
>Military coups.
Who's accepting who's viewpoints?
>>345411978
if you're going to bother capitalizing the W's why not make the o a lowercase my autism is hurting
>>345427178
>you can't be a lefty and enjoy unfiltered dialogue/shitposting anymore
the conservatives were right, liberals these days are a bunch of fucking crybabies
>>345427415
Let's go for a nice, conservative interpretation: they actually do assign people to read the reported comments and make a judgement call.
Now, pick the most hugbox member of the moderator team.
That is now the bar everyone will need to stay below in order to survive report-spammers.
>>345427178
>my people are winning
>literally assault trump supporters and even turn on bernie/hillary fags if they don't join your side
if that is winning, im glad we're losing
>>345427765
Keep in mind that comment is from 2009.
>engage in a civil discussion in chat
>get spam reported for having a different opinion
>silenced
working as intended
All I have to do is post one image and /v/ will
>>345427572
>If someone took the time to right click and report for language, they got suspended, this doesn't streamline it, it just makes it more exploitable by meta trolls and demagogues.
Hah, all using that button does is put the user on ignore. No GMs read that shit, you have to make an actual petition to get anything done about abusive speech right now.
>Am I the only one who thinks this mentality is the childish one?
A childish solution to a retarded childish playerbase, isn't it appropriate?
>>345427586
I don't think anyone is going to be banned for saying anything not dickish, so I don't have anything to show.
>>345427707
GMs are pretty inconsistent on a lot of issues, so yeah there's going to be variance.
>>345428018
>Hah, all using that button does is put the user on ignore. No GMs read that shit, you have to make an actual petition to get anything done about abusive speech right now.
Not true, a group of us experimented with it, and depending on what you said, you got suspended. Nigger was one of the words that did it, as well as fag and fuck. That system was automated, if you got reported and your chat had any number of bannable words from a list, you got the boot.
Blizzard even made an announcement a few years back about how they made that system automated to save manpower.
Shit, even right now if you do a battleground and 5 or more people report one person AFK at the same time, it just boots them from the game instantly.
>>345428258
>Blizzard even made an announcement a few years back about how they made that system automated to save manpower.
Well shit I haven't played since before they automated it then, that's pretty interesting actually. I think most people still assume it does nothing.
>>345428018
And the toughest moderator is the one that'll set the tone for the community.
You won't hear about the moderate/reasonable responses to reports.
You'll hear about the hamfisted/unjustified responses.
Which'll make the reporters more bold and encourage self-censorship.
>Great! Fuck those children and their abusive speech!
Yeah, great, sterilize the chat. Heaven forbid someone gets offended and can't deal with it.
Makes sense. The only people still playing retail WoW are the kind you'd want silenced.
I was perma banned from wow for saying stuff in trade that goes against their Marxist agenda
Under this silly silence system I'd just be chat restricted for a couple months
Damn
>>345421341
EAT SHIT FAGGOT.
>>345428752
You can ask 5 GMs whether it's okay to use your mouse to make a macro and get 5 different answers.
I highly doubt the tone will be set, WoW GMs are insanely inconsistent.
>>345429156
>I was perma banned from wow for saying stuff in trade that goes against their Marxist agenda
Let me guess, "nigger nigger nigger nigger faggot"?
>>345412237
> Being such a huge faggot
>faggot
User was silenced for this post.
>>345412534
>a T-Rated game
Online interactions not rated by the esrb
>>345412534
Can you please, in detail explain why the word "nigger" is inappropriate for teenagers to hear?
>>345411921
>Don't be a douche
>Don't get silenced
Simple as that.
>>345429639
hahaha le casual racism! xDxD
WE WUZ KANGS hahaha!
>>345429768
>don't disagree with me
>don't get silenced
Simple as that you overprivileged shitlord
>>345429795
can you please form a coherent sentence?
If you really get bothered by someone on the internet saying something mean to you or anyone else, you actually have autism
This is obviously to fight Gold selling spam, when this is deployed Blizzard will be ahead in the fight against bot spam than Square. If you're against this you haven't been on a server filled with gold sellers.
>>345429854
>overprivileged shitlord
Wow that's some abusive speech if I ever saw it ;^)
>i don't like thing
>OH YEAH I BET IT'S CAUSE YOU SAY NIGGER ISN'T IT YOU FUCKING RACIST FUCK OFF >>>/pol/
do people get their arguing skills from Cole Phelps
>>345429768
b-b-b-but it's the internet! I HAVE to be a douche to everyone I meet otherwise it won't feel right!
>>345430017
Autistic people generally don't understand the emotions held behind speech. They aren't affected emotionally by things people say.
It's actually you that is the autist, feeling the emotional weight of speech is the exact opposite of autism.
>>345430025
To be fair, that's not just /v/ that's 90% of left wing politics these days.
did chuckle though, everytime I see this in future I am just gonna picture Cole Phelps spamming doubt..
>>345430025
Yeah but people like this post >>345429156
It's pretty obvious he said some heinous shit to get permabanned. He's wasn't just banned for wrongthink, but he's never going to come back and admit to what he said in this thread.
>>345414869
>implying trade chat is active on more than 2 servers in 2016 woww
>>345430203
Internet speech doesn't have emotions behind it
>>345429768
>Don't be a douche
How about you stop being a shitter instead?
>>345427701
Im sorry, are you being triggered?
Are you going to silence ban me?
>>345430421
Yes it does, text absolutely has emotion behind it or the entire genre of fiction couldn't exist.
>Justifiably complain that my random BG team is bad
>Now am going to be punished for it.
Guess they just want a frustrating experience to be even worse.
Thanks Actiblizzard
>>345411921
I don't get how this is something bad or new, I got banned (literally banned for three hours or one day) for bullying a guy verbally and following him around
This way you at least get to play while you're benned
>>345429768
It's the internet, I HAVE to be a dick to everyone otherwise 4chan won't like me!
>>345414609
>Get troll reported and silenced
>Contact Blizzard support live chat and get your issue fixed and unsilenced 5 minutes later
I don't see the issue. Blizzard support is top tier. It's not like other companies like SE who will answer your ticket 4 weeks later.
>>345411921
wtf I love blizzard now?
seems like a good policy to me faggot
>>345430492
Fiction is an established narrative created by actual authors after many given thoughts. Internet speech is created by monotony
>>345430696
>Justifiably complain that my random BG team is bad
>By telling everyone to kill themselves
>And calling them niggers
b-b-b-b-but why did I get silenced?!
The same people complaining about this implementation are the same people who confuse "competitive banter" with "fuck you spic ass nigger shitface die in hitlergass u assfuck" in battlegrounds and trade. The magical part about this is that, if you're not trying to draw peoples' attention to you in any medium by acting like an obnoxious little shit, there will be literally zero reason why anyone would bother to report you en masse to silence you; arguing to that would be equitable to a group of 50 fratboys getting together to mug some random person walking down the street. It just doesn't happen.
Hell, everyone complaining didn't even bother reading the lack-of-penalties for those reported in this way. You're literally unaffected from interacting with your friends (the same people in trade you're more than likely trying to impress for whatever godawful reason). You can play the game just fine. When was the last time you needed to tell anyone anything in LFR or LFG regardless? This is a boon for you, as now your account is no longer BANNED from play - its gone from a spanking to a slap on the wrist.
You shitstains need to stop whining about every little piece of shit Actiblizzard shits out. If this is so much an issue that is make or break for you, you may legitimately in fact have autism and are probably better off playing a game like Final Fatlazy MMXVI. Not that your one more paying account will help this starving horse any.
>>345431075
Those words still carry emotion to most people m8, I'm sorry about your 'tism
>>345411921
Unless you're a raging autistic retard this will not even affect you, but i know a lot of you are so my tip for you would be to just rein in the autism when dealing with other people, take some deep breaths and walk away from the computer until the retardation has stopped flaring up.
>>345414909
tfw anal spam will come to an end
>>345431185
Excuse me, sir. I'm going to need to see your license, registration and sauce on that picture there.
>13 year old /b/tards get slapped with a mute for using edgy racism and generally being enormous attention seeking retards
I don't see the issue. Also gold spammers will take a huge hit as well because they'll get silenced a lot quicker.
>>345430886
>5 minutes later
You've never dealt with Blizzard support. You move more quickly through a line at the DMV.
The wait is bound to get longer with everybody bitching at Blizzard about getting squelched over something that doesn't violate their code of conduct.
League has the same system, with the same chat restrictions. Which doesn't mean it's really needed in WoW, because of any online community, they are pretty chill, compared to the raging fps and moba people.
In my 10 years WoW, there was not a single time I had the need to report someone, there is an ignore list
>>345431143
You're not the first person or the last to use a strawman in justification of this draconian policy change.
>>345411921
Finally, they're tackling the big issues. WoW will now be playable again with all this abusive chat.
Oh wait, I haven't spoken to another player in years because the game is designed in a way that other players may as well be fucking bots.
>>345424968
dismissing MoP as just "panda shit" is fucking moronic
it had some of the darkest themes in the game and several solid raids, it just lasted too fucking long
>>345431291
>You've never dealt with Blizzard support.
Actually I have on several occasions. Over a dozen at least and they were always timely with their responses.
Actually, yesterday I went to the support website and opened a chat session in regards to asking for a day of free game time so I could sell some shit and get enough gold for a token. GM was connected to the chat instantly and gave me 3 days instead of 1.
You don't know what youre talking about. You just have a massive hateboner for Blizzard like the rest of the /v/ hivemind.
>>345419687
Fucking moron. Playing video games, what a faggot.
ITT: salty 13 year olds
>>345411921
>mute-system that only ever applies to gold-sellers and chat-spamming ass-clowns
>/v/ gets triggered
>90% of the people ITT don't even play the game
>>345431352
Cool buzzwords, champ. Glad you were able to retort with a thought-out response and not just a "you're wrong just 'cause" statement.
Nah, just kidding. Fuck off. Here's your (You).
>>345431459
>>90% of the people ITT don't even play the game
This is applicable to most threads on /v/
Especially MMO ones
>>345431406
Did you even read the rest of my post?
>You don't know what youre talking about. You just have a massive hateboner for Blizzard like the rest of the /v/ hivemind.
You fucking idiot, fine then, be a belligerent cock. It's not like I've played the game until recently since it came out. The recent expedience in service is new, and it wont last with the implementation of this system, their manpower is going to get strained and the wait time for appeals is going to increase.
>>345431092
>>>/reddit/
>>345431459
Yeah the usually already high shitposting ratio increases even further when people talk about WoW because a really big amount of people played it at some time and for some reason need to justify stopping with more than that they got tired of the game.
>>345431547
Your assumption only works in anecdotes and analogies magically will themselves into existence.
What you said is a complete strawman and you're mad because you don't have an actual argument.
>Blizzard is an American company
>Silence feature coming out just as the presidential election ramps up
>'Unpopular' opinions will no longer be expressible
But seriously though, getting locked out of game features you're PAYING to access is pretty fucked up. Silence would be fine if the game was F2P but they're overstepping their bounds here.
>>345431143
So... if the people here confuse competitive banter with your arbitrarily decided upon """"hate speech,"""" What is to say retards (Sorry I mean r words... ) who spam the report button won't also be unable to distinguish the difference, especially if they are booty blasted or on tilt? hell what is to say the mods can even make that judgement?
>tencent owns company
>first they silence ''toxic'' talk, then opinions that they don't like
>efficiently remove the freedom of speech from games
>proceed to buy more companies and do the same thing to them
it's the chinks trying to control the world, nothing else
see: riot and now this
>>345431654
And yet there are faggots in this very thread who deny the political nature of this change.
I'm sure they're just sick of all the whiny bernouts and the mentally hills getting shit on in trade chat spamming the report button on people who argue with them, so they're just going to shoehorn this idiotic system into the game and let it regulate itself.
I'm going to bust a gut when this inevitably blows up in everybody's big dumb face.
>>345431750
Bro, 'competitive banter' is a dying concept that's been killed off in the majority of competitive games. The fine art of putting the opposing team on tilt through verbal barbs has been systematically removed because thin-skinned millennials can't handle anything they perceive as criticism.
I can't wait to get silenced the first time I say "Sloppy we but got it" After killing a boss with a PUG.
>>345431753
>"freedom of speech"
You don't have freedom of speech in online games. If your chat posts violate the ToS, the company owning the game can just ban you.
They could have the word "banana" as a ban-worthy offense in there and they'd be in the right to ban you for it, since you clicked on "Accept".
Also
>"opinions they don't like"
>>345431791
You'd absolutely be allowed to say everything you just said under this ruleset though, as long as you don't pepper your speech with the word faggot like you do here
>>345431914
>i really don't like the chinks taking over all gaming companies
>banned :) you were toxic
>>345431918
If it's automated, which it will be, then all you need is a brigade of people going around and hitting the 'report for language' button on individuals at the same time, and poof, they're muted. Then that individual is going to have to sit in a long line while they wait for a GM to get back to them about appealing their mute.
You're naive.
>>345431895
"Banter" on the internet is pointless. In real life you can tell the difference between someone being competetive and someone being a complete dick, but on the internet it's impossible to discern that just from chat.
In most cases you come across as a smug asshole and in most competetitions, online or iRL, you'd be disqualified for unsportsman-like conduct.
>I can't wait to get silenced the first time I say "Sloppy we but got it" After killing a boss with a PUG.
That's complete bullshit and you know it. You'd expect SJWs to pull out this kind of hyperbolic crap, so why are you stooping to their level?
>>345431918
Why can't I use the word faggot?
>>345431641
I must obviously be dumb - You'll need to explain all these words you're saying to make yourself sound smart. What portion of my post was the strawman? What makes it a logical fallacy?
I'll go ahead an humor you though by reposting what I said in the comfy, cozy greentext you're so comfortable with:
Current Scenario
>Dipshit spams Trade and/or uses flagrant, offensive language
>Most people ignore Dipshit, others report Dipshit
>Enough people report Dipshit and he is banned for X time
>Dipshit is sad he can't play because he was banned for trying to be le fanny ples notice me fampai
Upcoming Scenario
>Dipshit spams trade and/or uses flagrant, offensive language
>Most people ignore Dipshit, others report Dipshit
>Enough people report Dipshit and he is mutedfor X time
>Dipshit is annoyed because he can't spend his precious time bothering others but can still play the game, alone or with his friends
How is this not an ideal situation? Are you under the impression mobs of people will select random targets and report them en masse for the lulz and that this system will be exploited non-stop in this way? Because that was my previous argument.
12/10, why am I have an argument with an idiot over an anonymous imageboard about a shitty video game when I should be sleeping?
>>345411921
>people actually support this company
I really don't understand people who say this. I am one of the many people responsible for Blizzard being where they are today by paying them out the ass in Vanilla and TBC, and for games like Warcraft and Brood War. The damage has already been done. I dont feel the least bit bad about buying new WoW expansions and at least trying them for a month.
Blizzard does not need any "support" they are too big to fail, they have already won. Diablo 3 and Heroes of the Storm both bombed and yet they are still cranking out video games and Blizzcons.
If WoW dropped to 200k subs it would mean jack shit to them.
>>345431914
"Society can and does execute its own mandates: and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things with which it ought not to meddle, it practises a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself.** Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not enough: there needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them"
- John Stewart Fucking Mill
>>345432079
Because it's a slur a reasonably large number of people feel insulted by. You'd know this if you had any common sense.
>>345432108
what a thread
>>345432064
>You'd expect SJWs to pull out this kind of hyperbolic crap
That's exactly what I expect them to do with this new mute system.
>>345432108
>Are you under the impression mobs of people will select random targets and report them en masse for the lulz and that this system will be exploited non-stop in this way?
Yes, because it happens on the forums all the time.
>>345427624
>that post is over 10 years old
hold me
>>345432160
>I cannot call someone a 'dumb faggot' in the chat of an online video-game.
>This is a serious issue.
Also
>claiming anyone would ever get banned for normally stating an opinion in regular conversation
This isn't an American college. GMs couldn't give a single shit what people think. Also, how would something like that ever come up, unless your one of those autistic spergs who starts political discussions in trade chat at 3 in the morning.
>>345432162
*pretend to be.
But I still don't see your point.
a lot of people feel insulted when I call them a homosexual, but that's okay. People may or may not be insulted by any statement. as they say offence is taken not given.
>>345411921
Does WoW not have a blocking function that you can use when your banter-handling capabilities are failing?
>>345431143
Reminder that when police got 'non-lethal' tools, they were intended as an alternative to the lethal ones.
In practice though, they became their own separate thing which has been used & abused as a crutch for shitty police work.
This'll be used a hell of a lot more than the bans ever were.
>>345431750
>arbitrarily decided upon """"hate speech,""""
"fuck you spic ass nigger shitface die in hitlergass u assfuck" would easily be considered hatespeech by most normal people. Not that I give a shit - I just ignore people who are annoying - but most people are triggered by that because people have incredibly thin skin these days like >>345431895 said. However, there is a line to be crossed that's the difference between being a fucking obnoxious child, taunting and harassing people for teh lulz and trying to tilt people in PvP for sport or making someone look stupid in Trade so they don't sell as well as you.
>Tanking the new revamped ZG back in cata
>Some healer whore and her Boyfriend in the group
>After the first boss they tell me to hold on
>I keep going because I'm gear out the ass and dont really need healing
>end up solo'ing my way to the next boss while they're standing afk
>They come back 7 minutes later
>She flips the fuck out that I continued on without them for some insane reason
>Get fucking kicked from the group by them
>Usually dont get upset but this infuriated me
>Make a character on her realm and start roasting the fuck out of her
>Find out she is pregnant
>Tell her I hope she miscarriages or falls down the stairs or some shit
>She is shocked and tells me she is reporting me
>Tell her to fuck off and log back over
>Get contacted by a GM 2 hours later
>Explain the situation to him
>He just writes it off and tells me to have a nice day
So is that Blizzard gone?
fuck this ComPANYY
>>345432320
>our type of censorship is okay, because we, the ubermenche know how to arbitrarily decide what is okay to say and what is not and can draw the magical line easily. Furthermore, this type of censorship is totally justified in that it takes on the noble pursuit of protecting people's feelings on the internet.
>>345432008
Even though they have said it isn't automated, let's assume it is.
Do you really need to tell instance chat your angry opinions on hillary clinton? Is that really of value to you?
>>345432197
>That's exactly what I expect them to do with this new mute system.
>Post "Sloppy, but we got it" in chat, random SJW magically appears and takes offense
>reports it
>nothing happens because one report doesn't do anything
>through magic, he recruits all his magical SJW friends who also report you
>GM checks chat-log, dismisses report as prank/trolling
And now go ahead and tell me how the GM is also an SJW who'll rub his hands and gleefully mute you, which will send an automated message (as do all bans in Blizzard games), which you could use to appeal the decision.
Aha! But of course the people handling the appeal are also all SJWs!
>>345411921
>muh abuse potential
Nothing will happen to people who aren't utter cunts.
The only people who are worried about this are utter cunts who lack the self-control to stop being utter cunts.
I look forward to your suffering.
>>345432340
>People may or may not be insulted by any statement. as they say offence is taken not given.
Are you by any chance autistic?
>>345432197
As much as I can agree with you of mob mentality on forums, Trade and Battlegrounds != BNet forums, and thank fuck for that. The forums is where cancer goes to thrive and only the most cunning and suave trolls go to play.
>>345432360
Being obnoxious is not banter, but in response, the ignore list is finite for some bizarre reason. It's difficult trying to prioritize who is more or less annoying than the other when it comes to sorting my ignore list.
>>345432401
>would easily be considered hatespeech by most normal people.
I take it you are European? or at least a college student? likely never read much literature from classic liberals?
>Not that I give a shit - I just ignore people who are annoying
So why are you arguing people should be muted?
>but most people are triggered by that because people have incredibly thin skin these
So why is that anyone's problem but their own?
>crossed that's the difference between being a fucking obnoxious child, taunting and harassing people for teh lulz and trying to tilt people in PvP for sport or making someone look stupid in Trade so they don't sell as well as you.
A thousand different people will draw the line in a thousand different places anon.
Most censorship is put forward with good intentions.
>>345415835
How fucking autistic are you?
You're playing video games you stormweenie
>>345432451
>go out of your way to stalk someone because they were being dumb shits and vote-kicked you from a meaningless dungeon run
>follow her to her server
>start making RL threats
That degree of autistic rage alone should have you banned. How can someone be this triggered?
>>345432605
This statement insulted me, you also used the word autistic as a slur that is hateful. Why is this type of behaviour allowed? Chink moot plz ban.
>>345432591
It's funny because you can also notice in this thread the people who will actually get silenced, or have already been banned before.
Online communities have become a huge shithole or people who cannot control their own anger issues and childishness. I blame eSports and "competitive" gaming.
>>345432538
The details of this system are still speculative, but I don't expect Blizzard to create a system to handle this that isn't automated. They're trying to save money, why take on a bunch of new employees when they can have an algorithm that handles these mutes the same way the report AFK function works in battlegrounds, where if enough reports in a short enough time span are issued against a person, the system kicks in and boots them from the battleground, or mutes them in this case.
Your SJW conspiracy strawman doesn't hold up in this case.
>>345432743
I dunno man. I'm being honest when I say I am a mellow person 99% of the time.
It was just something about being kicked from a dungeon group that I had wasted the last 10 minutes in because I did not follow some cunt's direct order to wait on her when it was completely unnecessary.
Everything just went red and I lost my shit.
>there are people itt who cannot contain their autism and start random political discussions in MMO chats
>>345416437
No it doesn't you retard.
racist literally means to believe one race is supperior to others, or in the pseudo science of eugenics.
That's why it get's a negative connotation.
You should probably know what a word means before you start spewing shit on the internet.
>>345432831
>I'm being honest when I say I am a mellow person 99% of the time.
Yeah most people are mellow most of the time except when they are not
>I swear your honor, I'm totally mellow 99% of the time, I only murdered that FUCKING WHORE the one time after all
>>345432831
>Everything just went red and I lost my shit.
No excuse, you're an adult human being. Not some dumb animal with 0 self-control.
>>345432485
Discussions often just head in that direction, since this election cycle has been crazy, nothing in living memory compares to it. It's everywhere and dominates most discussions.
It usually starts off with someone calling Trump a racist, and then someone else asking them why they think that, or asking for proof of their claims.
I hope I can get a log of what I said that triggered shitters like in league. So I can share it with all my friends.
>>345432883
Those who abstain from politics are destined to be ruled by idiots.
>>345431185
>Tristana
Don't do this to me, anon.
>>345431260
Bandlebro.go to the shortstacks thread in /aco/
>>345432672
>I take it you are European?
Why would I be European if I used an example including Hispanic and African-American people? What? I will legitimately arrange to send you $20 if you can go outside and random go on to insult people in public without them having some sort of negative response. Who wouldn't?
>So why are you arguing people should be muted?
>So why is that anyone's problem but their own?
Because there's seldom any rational debate on this god-forsaken website and I enjoy playing devil's advocate. Nothing changes with peoples' capability to ignore people - the only thing that really changes is the severity of punishment. Would people prefer being banned manually or being muted potentially automatically? I can't imagine anyone voting for the former.
>>345432945
>>345432947
Whatever m8s. I've told other people about this and they all thought it was justified. You both are either just baiting or need to head back over to Tumblr.
She was a terrible healer too. I practically had to solo the first boss because she died twice to the poison. And her Boyfriend was doing garbo DPS. And then they had the audacity to kick me from the group because I didnt stand there and wait for them to afk just because they told me to.
>>345433002
Not if the established political system is already sound.
What the fock is this thread?
>>345419854
>spams racist shit in trade chat
>JUST LOOK AWAY LOL
>>345432948
And of course if you are deprived of that your life is basically over, how dare blizzard do that to people.
>>345433002
Those who provoke pointless shit-flinging contests in trade-chat ARE idiots.
I'm just worried about the anal spam.
My server would be dead without it.
>>345433092
>Not if the established political system is already sound.
>he believes this
YEAH I SURE DO LOVE BEING INVOLVED IN ALL THESE WARS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAVING THE WORLD HATE ME BECAUSE MY GOVERNMENT DOES WHATEVER THE FUCK IT WANTS WITH DRONES AND SHIT
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE MOST SOUND POLITICAL SYSTEM EVER
>>345433080
> I've told other people about this and they all thought it was justified.
Echochambers are usually a reddit thing.
Hmmmmmm
But really I'm sorry for questioning you, please don't come to my house and murder me in my sleep, you totally sane and 100% stable person.
>>345433092
>What the fock is this thread?
Autistic ass-clowns trying to justify spamming general chat and getting butt-blasted that the people owning the chat want them to cut it out.
>>345433117
Not an argument.
Fyi to any hugbox late 90s/2000s child that thinks this is a good idea.
I'll be spam reporting people regardless. Just to troll and get a laugh.
>>345432672
This guy gets it.
>>345432401
I'm not the biggest fan of that shitty spam either.
But instituting this silence shit makes people think it's OK to shut up people they don't like.
That having hurt feelings is an unnatural state which cannot/should not be tolerated.
And that's childish bullshit.
People are forgetting to learn 'sticks and stones'.
>>345433061
See >>345432394
Instituting a 'lesser' form of punishment allows a lot more of it.
>>345422115
>bigot
labeling people is bigotry in itself
>>345433293
The chaotic neutral meta-trolls are the only winners in this situation.
>>345433204
>giving a shit what others say about a country
>that provides unequivocal opportunity and freedom and cultural bliss
>as if a fucking president is going to do or not do shit all with Congress how it is
>>345433226
But this announced idea is fucking dumb.
>>345432774
>It's funny because you can also notice in this thread the people who will actually get silenced, or have already been banned before.
4chan hasn't been the same for a very long time now. It's not a safe place to speak freely like it used to be. I don't know why I bother coming back here honestly.
>>345432883
It really boggles my mind. Why would people bother shaking rattles at one another on a video game text channel? I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who strictly uses Trade and General for their intended purposes. I think a separate "Global" channel would do the game wonders.
>>345433002
Pretty sure there's a difference between abstaining from politics and arguing with idiots with no real political understanding via video games as a medium. Besides, anyone who doesn't think voting in the US is rigged or votes for "the lesser of two evils" shouldn't bother. Why the fuck would I waste my time talking about "muh trump" in Trade? I don't pay $20 a month for that shit.
>>345433024
Based. Thank you so much.
>>345433375
>as if a fucking president is going to do or not do shit all with Congress how it is
>executive orders
>drone strikes
Gee, congress is such a stumbling block, however will someone get around it?
>>345433350
I label thee... IDIOT.
>>345417151
He already said he was Australian are you new to this website?
>>345433293
>waste time reporting people
>no report is even sent because nobody else does
>"Ha, I showed them!"
>But this announced idea is fucking dumb.
As said countless times before: the only ones remotely affected by this will be gold-sellers and chat-spamming morons who are deliberately trying to get reported. Many other online games have had far stricter systems in place for years and those haven't become SJW nests either.
>>345433061
>I will legitimately arrange to send you $20 if you can go outside and random go on to insult people in public without them having some sort of negative response. Who wouldn't?
I don't want to dox myself, but I live in BC and most people are pretty lax about that sort of shit, most people would just assume im a druggy, I could probably make a few people laugh.
Anyway I may have a negative response but it would be by the person I am interacting with directly, no GM or cop or anyone is gonna arrest me, in fact if they resorted to violence the cops would be on my side. I don't have a problem with people talking back if someone shit talks them in WoW or whatever.
>Because there's seldom any rational debate on this god-forsaken website and I enjoy playing devil's advocate.
that's fine, but keep it consistent in the thread at least man.
> Would people prefer being banned manually or being muted potentially automatically?
That's stupid.
it's a very vocal minority of people who would actually mute you. You can just not play with them. But if I get muted for triggering say 5 SJW randoms, then I can't talk to my friends, or guild, raid, bg, or trade chat or whatnot.
Furthermore as someone who enjoys banter, I would rather not be robbed of the oppurtunity to hear these wrongthinkers, let their wrong ideas collide with my right ideas even. I don't see why I should be robbed of an interaction with a player, because some third party does not like what he has to say, especially when said third party has no obligation to listen anyway.
posting for dem (You)'s
>>345433448
>digressing back to shit that doesn't affect the country at all
>>345433293
Good luck none of your reports being successful and being soft-locked from reporting people.
>>345432948
Well, is a battleground, raid or the global channel designated for in-game trade really the right place to be talking about those things?
The silence does not stop you from speaking in private channels, where you can continue that discussion until your heart's content.
>>345433536
>waste time
It's like two clicks? The same as muteing someone which you hugbox shits seem incompetent enough to understand how to use.
You are ignorant to say the least if you can't see that this silence will be abused and used to harass online streamers, people getting buthurt, and trolls like me.
>>345433448
>I label thee... IDIOT.
just because you can't be tolerant of my beliefs means im an idiot
>>345433634
>will be abused and used to harass ... trolls like me
>>345433595
>There are people in this thread that will defend this ban.
I want to know how they talk with their buddies over beers? or do they even do that/ have friends?
>>345433731
Hey man, how else can I survive LFR without blowing my brains out?
Bring back failbot/ fail addon.
>>345416685
It did, but you had to do it a lot. I intentionally sought to get banned once and was able to spam chat and spew racist jokes for 5 days before I was given a whopping 3 day suspension.
I'm part of a group with several dozen people dedicated to abusing this kind of shit. Looks like we're gonna be getting wow accounts and mass reporting some bitches.
>>345433792
I think the report I got for was saying "fuck china" (I'm assuming as much since the other ones had a server attached to the character). Which without context could be construed as ethnic hatred but I said that in response to chinese botspamming. I have since long gotten a filter, but that's besides the point.
>>345433796
>playing LFR
Why would you ever do this? I played 2-3 evenings per week and cleared Mythic with that. You probably spend more time waiting for queue and wiping with morons than progressing through the raid on the highest difficulty.
>>345433548
>most people are pretty lax about that sort of shit, most people would just assume im a druggy,
Oh. Must be nice.
>it's a very vocal minority of people who would actually mute you.
>I don't see why I should be robbed of an interaction with a player, because some third party does not like what he has to say, especially when said third party has no obligation to listen anyway.
I 100% agree with you, although Warden did and does still ban people more often than reports more than likely. I sincerely doubt this change in reporting features will significantly change things, but of course we'll just have to see. This all of course could be circumvented if Actiblizzard just got rid of the Ignore List cap. Why is that shit even there?
>>345433617
>The silence does not stop you from speaking in private channels, where you can continue that discussion until your heart's content.
THIS. I'm sure more than likely that we'll just see people create their own Global, unadulterated channels if they legitimately want to fling shit out of each other. Then again, most people probably do it for attention, so I'm not so sure on that.
>>345433792
The silence does not prevent you from speaking in private channels.
Having beers with a couple friends is a private channel. You don't broadcast everything you and your friends say to 10 thousand people
lol faggot here.
I know how this turns out.
>get matched with shitter.
>Blames team/jungler for him losing lane.
>don't gank his lane since it will just get the already fed mid laner 2 kills instead of 1.
>give him tips for how to improve
>don't risk my life to save him since he is worth no gold anyway.
>this is enough to make him say fuck the game, intentionally feed and then go afk
>we both report each other after
>MFW im the one who gets muted for asking an intentional feeder if his parents are related.
Bans should be based on player performance alone.
Quite simply if you are carrying a raid or bg or whatnot, you should not be muted.
>>345416437
>Claiming that races are different is actually racism
It's not a claim, fuckwit. It's also not racism.
I cannot wait for the shit to really hit the fan so beta numales like you can get put up against the wall where you belong.
>>345433929
WoW is rated T and unlike many other companies, Blizzard still sticks to that. So you probably got warned for saying "fuck" in a global channel.
>>345434036
There is a curseword filter, so no.
>>345433928
>GMs see dozens of reports on an individual
>Investigate to find that it's all falseflagging
>Soft lock you and your friends from reporting others
You sure showed them! Nice le ebin trell, amirite gaise?! xD
>>345433949
Welfare legendary force me to do that shit every week.
>>345434005
You admit to insulting him and wonder why you got the ban? Not only that but you abused the report feature to try and report someone for being bad at the game, which it is not intended to be used for and is a complete waste of GM time
>>345434005
Do you remember when you were little and your parents/kindergarten-teacher said: "I don't care who started it, just stop it"?
This is the same thing, since appearently the lesson didn't stick.
If someone gets you mad, ignore them. There are no words in the universe that will make a single difference to some dumb shit on the internet, so you're getting riled up for nothing.
>>345433984
But that's not true.
Playing videogames in general is that context.
I am not submitting an academic paper, I am not running for public office, or applying for a job. I am fucking around in a videogame in my freetime. I think it fits in the beer with buddies category.
>>345434005
One thing I've learned to do is simply not talk to people who play poorly - good players are rewarded with good conversation. As a fellow Jungler, if I see Bot Lane doing shit and they ask for a gank, I simply tell them "No". When they get all pissy and angry, I just make a single all-chat comment mentioning their flaming and welcome them to report them (if I'm even feeling like bothering reporting them). Usually I just ignore them and let them wallow in their own bronzejuice.
The system is going to be instantly flooded day 1 hour 1 of implementation.
I think that this is something that Blizz higher ups demanded, but that the worker drones know will be a shit show.
I give it a month before it is scrapped and an automated word filter silence system is put in place, unless that is part of this thing already.
Just like carebear FPS servers that instantly kick you for 'racism' or 'foul language' when you say 'lol fuck' once.
>>345434005
Yeah, anti-silence fag here, you deserved that.
You obviously have never played a blizzard game
I've never had to wait more than 8 minutes to talk to a GM live. Shit I even got a refund for overwatch through a GM.
>>345434197
Playing video games in general is a bit different than the context that is wow
Which has global chat channels which are the primary point of discussion for this system
>>345434132
>Not only that but you abused the report feature to try and report someone for being bad at the game
intentional feeding and ARE (and justifiably so) both banable offences anon.
>>345434161
>There are no words in the universe that will make a single difference to some dumb shit on the internet, so you're getting riled up for nothing.
Im just having a laugh m8. It's no different then calling someone out on 4chan. I don't think calling him inbred will make him stop ruining the game for everyone else, it just helps me feel better, let off some steam, and make a lost cause of a game a bit more fun, for everyone else involved.
I'd just like to give a big "thank you" to those of you being actual adults talking about this like educated individuals. It's always refreshing to hear peoples' opposing viewpoints on a subject when it's discussed in a more-intelligent-than-a-gradeschooler manner. Hope y'all have fun with this Pre-Patch.
>>345434005
I griefed so many fucking moba games back in the day for this exact payout.
>be a little shit
>get someone on my team to call me a "fucking retard"
>become offended
>"I DON'T EVEN CARE BUT YOU DON'T USE THAT WORD... YOU DO NOT... USE THAT WORD"
>they keep going because they think they're calling me out on my shit while i report them
>smug because i know they all get theirs
>>345434408
Wow, bronze ELO must be really boring if you need to resort to that for entertainment.
>>345411921
I already bait people into saying racist or vulgar things in chat, and I already report them for it.
This system will make it way easier, and I appreciate Blizzard's willingness to indulge my favorite activity.
>>345434304
I haven't played WoW since MoP, but the petition wait time back then was 11 fucking days
So this is a surprise to me
>>345434398
nigger.
>>345434620
Well, assuming you're not fishing for (You)'s you're missing the point of this discussion. The main defense for the new silence feature is that the reports will be "investigated" by presumably human beans. I'm sure if you're baiting people a reasonable person would infer that they were provoked and you could be punished as well.
>>345434679
I haven't been subbed to wow in over 2 years. But I got a GM quite quick when my girlfriend bought Overwatch on my account when I was busy cleaning the cat litter.
Refunded that shit immediately.
>>345414685
Like all day.
Shitposting in trade chat while managing my AH bots and garrison gold farm is pretty much all I do.
>>345434397
>intentional feeding and ARE
**afking
>>345429915
Can you please be less of a racist /pol/tard first?
>>345434943
Sure, right after you point out when and where I was racist or a "/pol/tard"
>>345434715
Reports are supposedly already reviewed by human beings, and supposedly reviewed for context.
The only thing changing is the punishment and transparency of the process. Blizzard doesn't want to lose players or subscriber money because they have to ban them. This is how they retain subs, because retarded bitchboys who spam tradechat with 'nigger nigger nigger' won't actually quit just because they cant shit the bed anymore.
Total game ban never made much sense from a business standpoint.
I doubt very much that the CSR handbook is going to change.
>>345435052
>I doubt very much that the CSR handbook is going to change.
Me either, but you know.
>>345435052
I think they will be a bit more liberal with handing out silences, cause as you say, they aren't banning a paying customer anymore.
>>345434943
Why do you think "racist" is an insult?
You would have to be a total imbecile to not be a racist in the first place. Using racist as an insult is such a great way to identify yourself as a completely vulnerable moron.
>someone comes out as trans on global
>i mute them
>get a pm from someone an hour later
>"hey did you mute ____?"
>yeah
>"that's fucked up. she's trans, dude"
>i mute them
>15 minutes later
>GM whispers me
>"just a warning this time, but do avoid abusing the mute feature. continued weaponizing of in-game features such as muting or reporting will be met with a lengthy ban (something someone in your level of PVP might not want...). please conduct yourself accordingly in the future"
>k
>"we've sent ____ a gift basket marked from you. we hope they hear back from you"
>reluctantly unmute them
>"THANK YOU SO MUCH, GLAD WE CAN BE FRIENDS"
>k
>spend the next hour watching global chat and reading about how reassignment surgery works and how to get obama to pay for it if you're a californian
>>345411921
THEY CANT KILL THE COMMUNITY ANY HARDER THAN THIS HOLY SHIT WOW IS DEAD
ITS FUCKING MURDERED
>>345435004
Right about the time where you think spamming the n-word is some free speech issue.
>>345429639
because they will go out and shoot white cops.
>>345435141
Do you believe in eugenics?
or do you just not know what racist means?
>>345435151
>literally pulling shit out of your ass
>>345435181
it is.
Do you understand the concept of free speech?
it applies to "the N word" (all 3,000+ in the english language)
Also can you explain why believing this is racist?
What part of this indicates I believe any race is superior or has traits making it better than another race?
How does believing in absolute freedom of speech= being racist?
I don't see the correlation.
>>345435353
Do you understand the concept that freespeech isn't the same as hate speech?
Some words are just not ok to say, respecting that is not going to plunge us into some autistic dystopia you've imagined up where we're all stuck in FEMA camps or whatever the latest stormweenie conspiracy fapfic is.
>>345435151
You're joking, but something like this actually happened to me.
>drama queen faggot/tranny always saying stupid shit in gchat.
>put them on ignore
>have to listen to them on teamspeak also
>mute them there
>a few days go by, someone asks me why I never respond to annoying faggot
>say in gchat that I put them on ignore because they were fucking annoying
>officer says to take them off ignore, because we need to be able to communicate
>ask him if that faggot has ever said anything relevant to completing content or pvp
>gkicked without response
>24 ban because I did use the word 'faggot', and they did mass report me
>>345411921
Yeah, this totally won't be abused by fragile egos with sizeable followings.
>>345435187
I know that you don't, you retarded beta faggot.
>>345435504
Filthy little mudblood.
>>345435353
Free speech isn't relevant to this discussion, you don't have a right to free speech within World of Warcraft.
You're welcome to head outside and exercise that right all you want though. I'm sure people will be understanding of your free speech.
>there are people who don't instantly leave /2 the very fucking moment they don't need to look for anything
It's like you want to suffer
>>345435636
Nice try but I'm white.
>>345435504
>freespeech isn't the same as hate speech
Yes, it definitely isn't. I would even go so far and say free speech and hate speech cannot coexist.
You either have one or the other.
>>345435719
Still a mudblood.
>>345435858
Still a racist retard.
>>345435504
>Do you understand the concept that freespeech isn't the same as hate speech?
Completely and utterly wrong. I strongly recomend on liberty by John Stuart Mill or many others. I can go into great detail, about how " If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.”
Or go in detail about how no one can perfectly draw the line of what is okay to say and what isn't as everyone will draw it differently, what would of been okay 100 years ago and now are very different, and it is grossly open to abuse. But primarily I simply ask who you give the authority to decide what I personally am allowed to hear or not hear.
this argument is best articulated more recently by Hitchens.
But this would go all over you head, as you are literally afraid of a word (nigger I presume) irrespective of context, like a fucking harry pottter character and voldermort.
But all of that is irrelevant to my question. Which was, how does that make me a racist?
>>345435663
Why don't you put Trade Chat in its own tab?
>>345435526
If you are in a raid guild that is one of the basic rules though.
In all raiding guilds I've ever been in you probably wouldn't get reported but you would get kicked 100% for sure after that because you broke two basic rules that usually also are explained to new members when they join the guild.
1:putting other raidmembers on igno.
and 2: actively flaming a guildmember
I mean, I understand that some people can be annoying, and I often privately vent about retards in my guild, too, but you are an autist and that gkick was completely justified
>>345435926
Oh wow are you trying to say spouting racial slurs is for the betterment of humanity?
Now I know you are fucking baiting.
Please remember to consider that the complaints about this are coming from people who are STILL playing WOD
>>345435980
oops meant for
>>345435638
>>345435638
Not >>345435586
>>345436036
Just as that man has a right to say nigger or how any ghetto ass hood black can say the same, I can call you an dumb faggot as well anon.
>>345436036
>the point
>Your head
If I can't say racial slurs, how are you going to be able to signal to the world you are better than me?
Now please explain how I am racist?
>>345435586
>he didn't even bother looking it up before posting this
>the absolute madman.
>>345436186
damn...really makes u think...
>>345436186
I'm better than you because I don't throw a tantrum because I can't say racial slurs. Explain how you aren't a racist while crying over that fact.
>>345436617
I am not throwing a tantrum.
And I can say any racial slur I desire.
Nigger, chink, gook, porchmonkey. Cracker. Honkey.
>Explain how you aren't a racist
Is this what progressive politics has stooped down to?
Assumed racist until proven otherwise?
You accused me of racism, the onus is on you to substantiate the claim.
>>345436780
I've already said how, because you think spouting slurs and hate speech is a human right. You're either the biggest idiot on the board or trolling.
>>345435791
Please articulate this further.
I am not even trolling I am just curious as to how you reached this conclusion.
>>345436780
>And I can say any racial slur I desire.
not on blizzard's servers lmao
>>345436979
>spouting slurs and hate speech is a human right.
Jesus Christ are you dense.
I got that part, can you explain the correlation?
I also think being able to say #blacklivesmatter or throwing a hissyfit about my use of slurs on 4chan is a human right. Just because your feelings tell you that classical liberalism is inherently racist, does not make it so. Explain yourself or fuck off.
>>345437146
Nah you fuck off, I'm done talking to a brick wall. inb4 trump meemees
>>345436112
>The acts of an individual may be hurtful to others, or wanting in due consideration for their welfare, without gong the length of violating the law. As soon as any part of a person's conduct affects prejudicially the interest's of others, society has jurisdiction over it and the question of whether the general welfare will or will not be promoted by interfering in it, becomes open to discussion
Also John Stuart fucking Mill
>>345437467
Im afraid Trump is just as against my views on free speech as you are friendo.
OF course I never wanted to discuss this topic. I am just curious as to why you believe I am a racist.
But it's useless. just another generation of college zombies. This time, it's everyone who disagrees with me is a racist/fascist/supports trump/idk hates muslims and poor people?
>>345437529
Yes, Locke was a utilitarian. I disagree with him on a lot of things. particularly anything in regards to "general welfare"
that being said I don't think
> As soon as any part of a person's conduct affects prejudicially the interest's of others
Was refering to hurting peoples feel feels on the internet, and I would the general welfare would not be promoted in such a scenario as to prevent people saying nigger.
>>345437529
Yes, John Stuart Fucking Mill, the very same guy who indicated that society having jurisdiction of something isn't necessarily a good thing
>>345437941
My quote and your quote are well known to be contradictory, and it's generally considered that his opinion varied.
>>345436617
>Explain how you aren't a racist while crying over that fact.
Not him but racism is a belief that racial stereotypes actually apply to every individual of a race.
Racism is not saying words that someone somewhere finds offensive for whatever arbitrary reason.
>>345437786
Should anything he said be applied to the internet? Regardless I think open for discussion is pretty clear and people are discussing it
>>345437529
He also campaigned for equal rights so that makes him a SJW cuck by /v/'s standards
>>345438050
nah that was my quote.
Anyway, yes my personal belief is that his mind didn't really lend itself to utilitarianism, but his father's/benthams brainwashing sort of gave him a sort of obscure set of utalitarian views that were contradictory to his other views and he sort of just ignored the issue.
>>345438159
Yes, but I see, facebook, twitter, wow, etc etc clamping down hard on speech and more and more "politically correct culture" its open for discussion here, but 4chan is ever becoming the exception not the rule on this sort of thing.
and yes ofc. the internet is an extension of speech, I just meant no conduct over the internet can truly affect predjudicially the interest's of others" in a manner that hurts the general welfare. (with the lone exception of censorship perhaps)
>>345438179
I think we can agree, that in his time. They actually had a bit of a point.
also
>implying it wasn't his wife arguing for it under his name
that just makes him a cuck by /v/ standards.
>>345435906
>racist
Thanks for proving my point libtard.
>>345438380
> I just meant no conduct over the internet can truly affect predjudicially the interest's of others" in a manner that hurts the general welfare.
Well obviously facebook and twitter disagree with you, and many others as well as you can see in this thread. The discussion is more than just us talking about it, it is also us acting upon it. Other sites limiting speech is part of that discussion.
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