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My opinions on the Fallout games. Discuss. Also general Fallout thread.
>>345390072
2>nv>1>tactics>>>3>>>4>>>>>>>>>>bos
not counting shelter
>>345390072
New Vegas was better than 4 and the shelter was actually enjoyable for a free phone app (at least in the beginning, haven't played it in a while)
Fallout 4 is great tier? Lol, nice bait. What a fucking piece of shit game and a buggy mess. No, it's not close to great. That's "bargain bin after a day or two" tier.
>>345390072
New Vegas over 3. New Vegas was 100% more enjoyable to me, 3 I couldn't get super far into before I dropped it
>>345390506
>buggy mod for Fallout 3 that was unplayable at launch due to save corruption issues
>not shit
>>345390425
I think everybody, no matter the order of the rest of their list, whether they're an Interplay elitist or Bethesdafag, can agree that BoS is a disgusting abombination and every copy should be burned.
>>345390661
Wew, good thing I didn't play it at launch
>>345390661
>PlayStation owners
Switch nv with 4
Guys, the colour of the outline is my ranking, not the order they're in.
>>345390540
>>345390506
>>345390954
Oh, so it's even more of a bait. Thanks for clarifying.
>>345390072
Honestly love the whole series. Never played brotherhood though. My favorites are easily fallout 1 and New Vegas. Going to get a lot of shit for this but I honestly believe 3 was a respectable sequel and enjoyable game. 4 went pants on head retarded but still is a good mindless shooter
>>345390954
That's even worse
2 was a mess of content but it is still miles better than 3 and 4
>>345390954
Why did you do it like that?
>>345390954
that only makes it worse
>>345390072
>3 and 4 better than NV
kys yourself
>>345391247
It's a screenshot of my steam library, so it was easier to just draw rectangles than change the order.
>>345390072
Haha 4 was so bad like literally the worst game ever.
Haha I love the courier
>>345391109
Don't get all triggered on me bro.
4 was actually good for 10-20 hours, tops.
Haven't modded the game yet tho
why you bitches hate on shelter?
too difficult for you?
>>345390072
the fuck why would you lay it out like that
>>345390661
>judges fallout 3 with all dlc and patches
>judges new vegas at lanch without the patches the fixed the game-breaking bugs
biased much?
>>345390849
>playing Bethesda games on Playstation
The PC version is still a mess. Quicksaving basically guarantees save corruption.
>>345391581
it is an abomination of anything and everything related to the Fallout series.
Say it with me now.
>>345391296
This one gets.
>>345390072
The worst part about this tier list is you probably didn't even play 1 and 2 and are just pandering to people by listing them as top.
>>345390954
oh shit really?
No reason to be in this thread then, it's clearly shitposting bait
>>345390954
That's so much worse.
>>345391705
donut pepe wood
>>345390072
Here OP, thank me later
>>345390072
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>345390954
oh, so you have even worse taste than i initially thought
>TTW
NV and 3 should be the same game now. Playing 3 alone is irrelevant.
>>345391646
>NV comes out after F3 is fully patched and has all DLC
>thinks it's acceptable that NV was even buggier than F3 at launch
>>345391296
Objective truth.
Your opinion is horrible. You should really reconsider your life at this point. I would recommend a hobby change. I'm also requesting to gook moot that you be removed from 4chan. And yes, the point is to make you feel bad about your opinion, because it's a shitty opinion you should feel bad for.
>>345390072
>>345390954
>Fallout 4 is god tier
>Fallout 3 is great
>NV is good
Anon I'm so sorry you were dropped as a baby.
>>345390072
>3 not sitting aside Shelter in Trash
>>345392007
Does TTW have all the weapons in 3 as well? Like I can get the chinese assault rifle for example
>>345390072
I put your image into trash tier for multiple reasons.
Your image is confusing because you didn't group the games by tier, instead expecting people to check the color of their border.
None of the fallout series is god tier.
>>345391757
I'm not actually listing 2 as top, retard. And here's a screenshot from my library with threadstamp.
>>345392214
Yep
>>345391862
Agreed
Really though fallout 4 wasn't even that bad
>>345392489
Neat, I always love the chinese rifle.
>>345390540
The witcher 3 had far more crashes/bugs that fallout 4 even came close to have. Not anyone's fault you're a delusional idiot. You probably thought tlou was goty
>>345390072
Kek, fallout 1 is so overrated. You're a fucking try hard op.
>>345392496
>fallout 4 wasn't even that bad
>>345392652
Do you fucking say 1 and 2 the exact same? Or does the VA at least say each one in a different tone
>>345390072
Fallout 3 is one of the worst games I've ever played.
I've played Disney shovelware that's more entertaining
>>345390072
God - Fallout/Underrail
Great - NV
Good - 3/2Sorry but only the NPC/mechnical changes in 2 appealed to me over 1
Shit - F4
Haven't played the others. I got whatever came as a trio on gog for free a while back but haven't played it, probably tactics.
I'm not a braindead mobile retard so I haven't played Shelter nor will I ever.
BoS, not even sure where to get honestly, don't want it on steam.I don't own F4, but I watched a friend play it and god it was bad.
>>345391296
>>345391862
>>345392207
>>345392496
Guys, the colour of the outline is my ranking.
>>345392792
I gotta admit the gauss rifle in 4 was pretty rad looking. Probably the only weapon I really liked in the game
>>345392837
A lot of the lines are the same, sometimes they'll re-use the same generic recorded response for multiple conversations.
Tactics>1>2>NV=3>4>BOS>ShelterEvery Fallout game is pretty bad.
>>345392678
Fallout 1 told a story in which everything made sense. Fallout 3 and 4 leave you with so many unanswered questions and no way to find the truth behind any of it.
Bethesda rewrites the rules, they make new rules, and they break their own rules.
>>345393001
That's fucking retarded, do you have Autism?
>>345390072
>that layout
Nigger how high are you?
>>345392849
look at me, i don't play phone games because im smart and mature and edgy hahaha
>>345391705
Homer REEEEEE wood?
>>345392495
>any fallout after 2 being a RPG
The train has departed in 2008 friend, anything after that is a action-adventure with a misplaced leveling system
>>345393187
>>345393194
It's a screenshot from my steam library. It was easier to draw rectangles than to move them.
>>345393207
Thanks for supporting freemiumware anon, you're part of the future of video games.
>>345390072
kek
Fo3>4>Shelter>NV>1>2>BoS
>Inb4 bethesdrone
I JUST hate deserts...
>>345390954
>4 God tier
That's even shittier taste, anon.
F2 to God tier, 4 to trash tier, Tactics and 3 to good tier, NV and Shelter to great tier.
BoS can stay where it is
>>345393363
but that's wrong
>>345393375
>fallout 3/4 fan is actually retarded
Nothing to see here folks.
>>345393375
I really want to bully you but for some reason I just feel bad
>>345393687
Why?
>Obsidian will never get to make New Vegas 2
>You'll never get to help House colonize the moon after he's fixed and raised society
>>345393461
>I'm willing to deal with shitty writing and casualized gameplay because I don't like deserts
downs.
>>345393461
>I don't like the west
end your self.
>>345393009
yeah the combat is superb. I like how you have the option of customizing weapons (even though it wasn't done as well as it should. plus unique modifiers make the game look more fantasy compared to sci-fi) but they left out a crucial amount of things that New Vegas did well.
Like factions and crafting ammunition. Fallout 4 even somewhat reintroduced damage types that the original games had with ballistic, energy, etc. Even though it was half-assed, I am glad they decided to do it. But you can't take advantage of it without ammo types.
And I'm glad they decided that you can use any weapon even if you aren't skilled with it (I believe you should be able to use any weapon but having skills invested drastically improves your performance like reducing recoil improving accuracy, etc) They definitely should not have removed skills.
I also like the fact that they categorized Unique Weapons - Weapons that do not fit the category of energy or ballistic such as the Gauss Rifle, which is a hybrid of both. It fires ballistic projectiles but is also battery packed so the 2mm EC ammunition is part ballistic ammo and part battery.
But in conclusion, none of this matters. Fallout 4 had the potential to be a truly great game. There is so much squandered potential and you can see it everywhere.
I really want someone to take Fallout 4's assets and do a brand new game with it, BECAUSE I KNOW it will be fantastic and definitely GOTY.
1>2>NV>shit>the rest
>>345393816
>New Vegas 2
god no, please do a different location. I love NV but I couldn't handle another desert
Fallout Shelter is a better Fallout than Fallout4
House > Caesar > NCR >>>>>>> Wild Card
1 > NV > 2 >> Tactics
Everything else doesnt deserve to be mentioned
>>345394014
Wild Card > House > Caesar > NCR
>Wanting to be someone else's puppet
cuck
Can I move my mobile save of Shelter to the PC version?
>>345394191
>Choosing the Mary Sue dumb ending
>A Courier now has to lead New Vegas
>Handing the reigns of power over to literal skynet
na
>>345394014
>not choosing your faction based off of the character you're playing as
It's like you don't even roleplay
>>345392496
I enjoyed it as much as the earlier games, /v/ just gets autistic when it comes to the fallout series
>>345393461
nigga i live in arizona and new vegas is one of my favorite games of all time, get over it
>>345390072
I don't get the over whelming love of 1 and 2.
They have aged like milk. If you are giving them points for starting series and mood they cast I guess I understand the logic.
>>345393001
dis nigga is retarded
>>345394014
indy+securitrons > house > ncr > caesar > indy without securitrons > lanius
objective fact
Fallout 4 is a bad videogame.
Just came here to say that.
>>345394369
My tier list in no way implies that I don't do this, I am merely rating which I think is best.
>>345394334
It's not skynet if he still sucks your dick
Sawyer already debunked that yes man betrayal
>>345393363
>>345393584
he's not wrong entirely. Fallout: New Vegas had to adapt to the shitty Oblivion engine which I would agree doesn't allow for much depth and immersion compared to other RPGs.
Like for example imagine you stumble across a dark chasm in a cave.
You don't have the option to pull a rope in your inventory. You don't have the option to light and drop a flare down the pit. And you definitely don't have the option to send one person down because it's too narrow.
It needs way a better engine allowing your character to have more solid actions. Fallout: New Vegas does it's best given what crap they could work with.
>>345394334
Courier has visited every crevice of the Mojave and interacted with every faction. I'd say they're more than qualified to lead it.
>>345394564
Oh. In that case you're right.
>>345394563
upboated!
>>345390072
Put New vegas over 3 and 4 senpai. 4 deserves to be next to brotherhood of steel
>>345392015
>be given a quarter of the time to make new vegas compared to the time spent making 3
wew lad
>>345393816
>obshitian will never get to stain the FO franchise agaib
>>345393468
Got a pic you might like
GET MEME'D ON NV FAGS
>>345391296
This nigger gets me.
>>345392792
fucking dogmeat
>>345394694
>House in 7 years, S E V E N years, turns a bunch of fledgling tribes into articulated organizations under his control
>Does something not even the best present day Leaders of Europe can do and manages to assimilate these savages into society
>Creates a Jewel of the wasteland a strategic imporant hub
>Not even at full power
I'd rather follow that guy
>>345395158
oh you wanna see Dogmeat?
>>345392015
part of the contract was that Bethesda would be in charge of the QA for New Vegas
they shat on it on purpose for that 85 rating
>>345395192
guy is dead from germs tho
>>345395158
>bringing a dog to carefully disarm laser.
My dogs would have run through that shit. Pretty realistic desu.
>>345391651
I beat New Vegas 3 times saving once and quick saving the rest of the game
>>345395351
>Pretty realistic desu
i am so immersed
>>345393060
>Every Fallout game is pretty bad.
THANK YOU!
Have some more Dogmeat
>>345395230
jesus fuck bethesda get your shit together
>your dog is in trouble
kek
>play Fallout Shelter on the PC
>all that save editors popping up
Fuck man, I just want to build a Santa Vault with Fat Mans, MIRVs, Alien Blasters and Plasma Throwers
>>345395657
and the classic that started it all
>>345390730
The "I did not play the game back then, so its not good now" reply.
Typical NV is my first fallout babies, pretty much majority of NV fags's first fallout is NV and maybe even my first GTA is SA.
You guys should feel good you're shit tier.
>people spamming webms again
why?
>>345395857
>people
>implying it's not just one person
Fallout 4 is the best
>>345395774
Every GTA before GTA3 is garbage.
NV>2>1>3
>>345392015
>NV was even buggier than F3 at launch
Fallout 3 doesn't even run on modern operating systems without CTDing constantly.
I want whatever drugs you do to think its less buggy than even launch new vegas.
>>345395857
A shittastic OP deserves a shittastic thread.
>>345395857
>the same webms of the same bugs
take that popular game!
>>345395928
i completely agree! Far harbor was a life changing experience for me
>P2W mobage better than a main series game
Anyone who says bos is trash hasnt played it. Its average
1.1
2.2
3.nv
4.tactics
5.4
6.bos
7.3
Is tactics worth five dollars? That how much I have on steam.
>>345396637
According to your rank, bos IS trash.
>>345394643
Can I save this meme for future shitposting?
>>345390072
From the perspective of a true fan
>>345396985
No, don't you fucking dare buy Tactics. It's a disgrace.
>>345396237
the best part of far harbor was the quest you mongs stole. youre a hack todd, a HACK.
>>345397034
Its all yours my friend!
>>345396996
In comparison to other fallout games its not so good but pn its own its average im comparing it to the other games.
>>345397103
NV isn't trash
>>345397103
Close but you left tactics.
>>345390072
>2, 3, and 4 above new vegas
>Vegas anywhere but elder god tier
you can't make this shit up
kys my man
>>345394907
Aside from the reload animation - who the fuck thought it'd be a good idea to make every gun in the game left-handed while the character is right handed?
>but what do you mean it's left handed
look where the fucking shells eject
every time you fire a round the shell would fly into your goddamn face
>>345390072
God, I fucking love tactics but scrounging up all the items in the beginning is hard. I tried a solo run before too and it was fun as fuck jason bourning everyone. I wish the campaign was easier to mod with the editor.
>>345396237
you might say he looks toddly familiar
>>345395351
Every companion does the same thing there.
1 = New vegas > 2 > Tactics >> 3 > 4
>>345397431
Beth cant into guns and they want everyone to see the stuff because muh hardwork needs to be seen
>>345397405
yes it is
but 3 and 4 were both excellent games
>>345397420
>kys
Aren't u supposed to be on bed timmy ? Gee its way past bedtime. I bet you didnt even downloaded the other fallout and complete them, you know why ? Because you're a quitter, and quitter loves FO:NV.
>>345397420
2=NV>1
Playing 1 feels more like an introduction to the world. Companions don't have much personality. You need high agility to do anything. It's still good though.
>>345397695
Is this you?
>>345390072
Man there has been some hardcore shilling for fallout NV on this board. That game was worse than 3 and it is mind blowing to see people defend that Chinese outsourced POS game.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
>>345391705
I was also going to say donut pepe wood
>>345397665
>3 n 4 excellente
I love your version of fallout my man, but i wouldnt go that far saying its excelente, its above average and being on "good" at max. I only played your game for building and farming simulator because the fucks stop making stalker.
At least your engine is 10x better than slav engine.
>its a obsidianiggers collective brain embolism episode
>>345397850
Alright dream boy, time to take your sleeping pills and go to bed. And stop collecting my pictures and stuff, its annoying.
As someone who has spend 1000s of hrs in this franchise.
It is 4>NV>3 for me. I haven't played Fo1 and Fo2, can you even run them on Windows 10?
>>345397695
why does everyone always bring in Obsidian when talking about New Vegas?
Bethesda I can understand comes into discussion because all their games are mindless linear sandbox bullshit.
What does the company Obsidian and their different games have anything to do with Fallout: New Vegas, the game we are actually discussing?
Fallout 2=New Vegas=1.5>1>3>4
>>345398121
Yes save often and use all slots or look for project restoration go play them now
>>345391705
donut reeeeeee wood
do not reward
i get it
>>345398121
Play two then play one. You will save the rest of the time trying to fit in "muh lore".
Fo1 is bland, it revolves mostly just fucking off thr big final boss using either deplomacy or violence which both ends with him dying. So much for multiple endings.
Also fuck spoilers.
Grow up, all of you.
>>345398490
Why? 1 teaches the fundamentals and doesnt have the brutal pacing of 2. 1 is a cakewalk and good practice for 2
>>345398131
>why does everyone talk about obsidian when talking about NV
>why does everyone talk about bethdesda when talking about 4
Gee, i dont know jimmy. Maybe its because they made the game ? Maybe you wanna talk about Christabel Avalonne or J.E SJWer or Toddler ?
>>345398131
They made NV and wrote it. They made NV using 3s assets.
>>345390072
Serious talk, what would have happened to the fallout series if Bethesda hadn't bought it? Why Interplay even decided to sell their ip?
>>345398852
It would have died but van buren would have been released
>>345398651
>fundamentals
Not sure about that, the game is pretty much the same as two except its more time consuming for nothing. Which is why the pacing was a "fast" issue.
Two fixed it , its faster.
>>345398754
if you want to criticize the game, then criticize the game.
if you want to criticize the company, then criticize the company.
stay on point.
>>345398798
like they had a choice
>>345398852
because Interplay fucked up and went under. Literally any other RPG company would have done a better job. Not just Obsidian.
>>345399048
Bioware would have saved this series.
>>345398852
Nothing will change, either inexile guys buy it ( i will surely pay top dog to buy if inexile), or the original 1 devs buying it.
Nuff said those old guys who made them either have not enough credibility or money to get the IP. I wish beth would just reboot the whole damn series starting with 1990s tech, wasteland 1 did that but their lore was pretty lame.
>>345399048
So i cant directly my irritation to the devs in any angle ? Even if its still going to end up back to the devs ?
You think they made their games basef on magic of randomness ?
Wow, just wow.
>>345398962
What? Fallout 1 starts you with a 10mm handgun and vault 15 immediatly gives you a 10mm smg to take on the khans and get tons of ammo and armor thats not even 2 hours into the game.while 2 gives you spear and you have to find a fucking pipe rifle or sell your soul for a handgun in the beginning.
>>345399148
Sawyers a cool guy
>>345390072
As much as they are milking the franchise I'm glad to see fallout game still being made.
It's a constant reminder that not every RPG has to be about dragons or the or belt fetishistm. It's a uniquely modern and American take on the genre.
>>345401332
Whats your opinion on cyberpunk 2077
>>345401332
They should hire people from Obsidian to write their Fallout games.
>>345399662
Well then funny because you're saying that in terms of getting an item and killing enemies which is not even the whole part of the game also can be done without much required skills even in two.
The quests in 1 is draggy also due to the fetch quests that runs between maps is horrible. At least two you got an improvement using vehicles.
>>345401985
If were talking first time players who want to get acustomed to the game its better to be a combat focused character with speech on the side. Obviously for replaying once you understand the game fallout 2 gives more options but i didnt make it clear that the advice was for a person who hasnt touched the old fallouts
>>345401332
Unfortunately not many shares your view.
Lets face it the fallout dream died when interplay spent all their time with IWD and spawned a closed ended FoT. Im glad FoT exists even shits buggy as fuck, story is pretty good though. Then BoS which is at least something fallout and there's even F1 protag in it as playable if i remember.
>>345390954
You have shit taste and are so dumb that you can't even make a decent macro showing your shit taste. kys
>>345402789
no u
>>345401640
can't have an opinion about something that doesn't exist
>>345402386
Well, if you put it that way, I cant say you're wrong about anything.
When i first played fallout, steal , sneak, diplomacy is pretty much what i played. Combat in 1 is wonky , two is more refined.
As to just play the lore, i start from two then 1. Which reminds me of LoTR movies.
>>345399148
Meanwhile Bethesda refuses to actually flesh out their Fallouts beyond "DUDE 50'S APOCALYPSE LMAO"
They avoid dealing with morality or any other tough questions because their writers are legitmately emotionally stunted, as evidenced by Pete Hines and Emil Pagulario.
Why was BoS bad again? Honest question.
>>345390072
>Any Fallout game beyond great tier
>FO3 not it trash tier
How the fuck did you put fallout 4 above new Vegas op kys my dude
>>345403713
Remember Baulders Gate: Dark Alliance? It's that but buggier and not much variety
>>345403713
it was a cartoony beat-em-up game
How to get (you)s on /v/:
>make fallout thread claiming to put fallout 3/4 above NV/1&2
>watch as /v/ spouts their meme opinions they copy+pasted from other fallout threads
>>345394262
Nope, unless you have an android emu on your pc
>>345403009
Beat me too it.
I play the tabletop game so I'm really hopeful but it's a still a long way off.
>>345408013
How is it? I'm terrible at those types of rpgs but I'm curious how a cyberpunk version works.
>>345390425
I actually completely agree with this. Although I think 1 may be tied with Tactics for me. Fuck I loved Tactics when it came out.
>>345390072
There is nothing positive about Brotherhood of Steel.
Anyone have the fallout NV DLC?
>>345408296
How much experience do you have a tabletop games?
Combat mechanics are fine. Gun fights are appropriately deadly and it's a relatively simple system compare to something like shadow run.
Classes are broken. Solos *allways* go first in combat which means they almost allways win at combat considering how deadly it is. Hacking and cyberspace is a completely different game in it's self so either everyone should be in a net runner or no one should.
The setting is very cool in a ridiculous 80 sort of way. It's vision of the future is probably more reto more than fallout.
Ultimate like any pain and paper game it depends who you play with and how good your game masters.
>enjoyable
3
>incredibly overrated, okay
New Vegas
>acceptable
Shelter (it's pretty good for a mobile game, though if it were on any other platform it'd be shit tier)
>beyond shit
4
>>345390072
New Vegas > FO3 >>>>>>>>> FO4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else
>>345390072
>God Tier
F1
>Great Tier
F2
>Good Tier
F:NV
>Trash Tier
F3, F4, Shelter, BOS
never played tactics
1 > 2 > Tactics, the rest isn't fallout games.
>>345394643
truth
1. 1
2. NV
3. 2
4. tactics
5. 3 (liked the world a lot)
6. 4
never played BoS
>>345410125
just buy the ultimate edition
In order of preference
>1
>NV
>2
>3
>Shelter (Don't like mobile games period)
>4
Never played tactics or even heard of BoS
So like, in the original games and New Vegas, there are guns and ammunition manufactures to provide weapons and ammo, but where do people get their ammo in 3 and 4?
Guys, what were the biggest Fallout "fuck you" moments for you? You know, moments where you got bad karma when you felt you did the right thing, or moments where you felt the game just fucked you over.
>>345415984
Losing karma for "Stealing" stuff from the Powder Gangers. After obliterating every one of them and gaining karma while doing so.
I have 1,2,3, tactics, and New Vegas. I have finished only 3's normal storyline. Which one should I try to play and what tips do you have for me?
>>345390954
lel
>>345415984
The convoluted false dichotomy in Vault 34 where you have to either help a family escape the vault, or provide clean water for the nearby NCR farms.
Just fucking do both? It never gets adequately explained why you can't.
>>345390072
How do I get into Fallout 1 and 2? The combat feels so damn foreign to me!
>>345415984
Those fucking gun turrets on the Enclave Oil Rig killing my companions with a single burst.
>>345393461
>doesn't like deserts in a post(post)-apocalyptic game
>>345391296
Fallout 3 should be in the good tier.
>>345391296
New Vegas was objectively better than Fallout 1, but now I'm splitting hairs. This list is infinitely better than OP's
>>345417424
>Fallout 3 should be in the good tier.
>>345393801
Becayse you scraped your taste buds off. Fallout 4 is utter fucking shit.
>>345417424
BUT WHAT DO THEY EAT?
>>345394643
This.
>>345390803
>>345390849
This is from the PC version in 2016.
I reopened my save file a couple weeks ago and it still does it.
>>345392214
Of course. Replaying TTW right now.
>>345398621
Your almost right, except Tactics is actually pretty good. Not as good as 1, but still good.
>>345401332
Except its not a RPG anymore, Fallout 4 removed all of the RPG aspects you triple fucking retarded mong. Thats why everyone hates it. Hang yourself.
>>345416393
>kill off the entire Fort and get Karma for stealing from the tents
Fucking seriously?
Didn't read any posts in this thread yet. Just wanted to say that fallout 4 was fucking trash. Shouldn't even be called a fallout game. I don't give a shit what anyone says.
Also I preferred 3 to new Vegas....but I still loved both. I blame my experiences with new Vegas on console. It was completely different on pc with one of the overhaul mods(the one that let you sprint and changed the vision while wearing glasses/helmets).
>>345417689
In Fallout 1 you could get the Master to kill himself with a speach check, thus destroying the mutant threat. Think before you post faggot.
>>345390803
good thing you didn't play it pre-launch either
>>345395628
tactics is really good desu senpai
>>345418816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh5tvZMXYSY
>>345390072
FO2>FO4>NV>FO3>FO1>T
>>345417579
Why are you posting Shamus' stuff here without crediting him? You faggot?
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27089
>>345390072
Is Fallout 4 non shit yet?
Why can't you idiot's just admit Fallout 4 is the pinacle of the series and the best open world rpg of the past... well since fallout 3 came out.
>>345415984
Probably Fawkes refusing to go into the fucking purifier before Broken Steel came out.
>>345419243
Trash
NV > Shit = FO3 = FO4
>>345418816
>>345419105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwi6Bv6WhIg
>>345415984
Getting karma for killing HOSTILE FIENDS in NV always pissed me off.
Also the fact that the game forces you to take the path it wants right at the beggining. Coming from FO3 that let me explore the entire world as soon as I wanted it felt really bad.
>>345391296
>BoS better than Bethout
>implying they even played BoS
This is how much of a pedestal butt-blasted Fallout fans put Interplay on.
How can anyone in their right mind not see that FO2 is complete and utter trash compared to FO1?
Also FO4 is easily the best in the series.
>>345419525
Lol, all I wanted was a bigger more detailed fallout game. It's all about the details for me. Instead, they give me the shit show known as fallout 4. Maybe they'll get it right next time. Chances are they stick to the fallout 4 Formula instead.
>>345391705
Do not reply?
>>345419803
Interplay fucked up so bad that Bethesda was able to purchase the Fallout franchise.
Black Isle Studios made Fallout 1 and 2 (and Van Buren). Interplay was the publisher.
>>345390072
I'm sure it's already been said, but it's really weird that you'd put the Bethesda games so high considering you're appreciation for the originals.
>>345420085
Pretty sure Interplay still owned the IP. Also Black Isle were a part of Interplay back when FO1 was made, rather than a sovereign studio.
>>345398419
Donut ReEEEEE ply (type of wood)
Do not reply
>>345397695
Why do faggots keep bringing this shit up? Obsidian gave the writer of the message the choice of changing it or keeping it in the game, the writer had them change it to make a joke about people being overly sensitive and still left SJW faggots mad
>>345418816
>All that horrible shit you've been doing throughout the entirety of this game? Yeah, it's been completely in vain, seeing as your mutation of humanity, what you consider to be their only possible future in the wasteland, can't reproduce, and will eventually die out.
VS.
>Please kill yourself, you're not allowed to attempt to bring order to the wasteland in your own way, this is the only way.
It feels like they tried to make a situation similar to the Master, but failed on the grounds that there's no real reason for Eden to kill himself, other than that you disagree with him.
>>345420050
DING DING DING
>>345419720
You get good karma for killing feral ghouls too.........
:/
As long as you think 1>2 you're okay in my books.
2>1 memesters please kill yourselves
>>345421372
Wasn't the changed version the same format except instead of killing himself over fucking a tranny he killed himself because everyone hated him over a joke?
>>345421872
Story/Tone: 1>2
Gameplay: 1<2
i dont understand what anyone likes about 4. i wasnt a fan of 3, but compared to 4?
>>345421918
It was an angry mob that killed him over a joke they didn't understand
AP or HP?
>>345422270
Fallout 1&2? AP
Fallout 3&onward? HP
![138E1AB3B4409FA82473120161D837B12002EAE7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bZ3tYIU.jpg "138E1AB3B4409FA82473120161D837B12002EAE7[1]")
>>345422543
Wow. Just wow....
>>345422543
>>345422619
Someone didn't think some of these "infinite possibilities" through.
>BoS was bad meme
How many of you actually played it? It isn't as bad as some people say.
Its a horrible Fallout game but a decent top down shooter with constantly changing environments.
1>NV>2>Tactics>4>BoS>3
3 is so goddamn horrible I cannot even touch it. Everything else I can at least play.
people really think 3 is better than 4? is that just nostalgia or what?
>>345422736
>the most critically acclaimed of all Fallout games
>UGGHH I LITERALLY CAN'T PLAY IT IT'S SO BAAD
Kill yourself, you fucking hipster
NV > 2 > 1 > Tactics > 3
Never played 4, Shelter and BoS and I am not a fan of CRPGs.
>>345422874
Because mainstream popularity equals quality right? Well gosh darn, I suppose Skyrim is the best RPG of all time!
Fuck off retard
Bethesda's garbage dumpster looking energy weapons look so disgusting.
In 200+ years nobody learned how to fucking weld? I mean just look at the Plasma Caster or Plasma Defender. Hell, if you want to take it further and talk about makeshift energy weapons go look at the Holorifle.
>>345422913
It's cold fire, duh.
>>345423058
Not popularity, critical acclaim. People who literally play video games for a living praised it. They know a lot more about video games than some retarded hipster on 4chan.
>>345390072
im not a fan of fallout. i am literally just playing fallout shelter because i think the ant farm set up is funny and i didnt play it on the smart phone i waited until they did the pc port. its the only fall out game i have ever played
i have played the last 3 TES games and ESO which i dont consider to be a TES game . me thinks fallout shelter is best fallout
>>345390954
Kudos to you for revealing how dumb /v/ actually is.
>>345423216
>They know a lot more about video games than some retarded hipster on 4chan.
I remember when I used to think this too :/
>>345391296
this guys gets it.
>>345391296
this is it. this is the correct fallout list
Objective and uninfected by fanboying
>>345390072
Fallout 4 is trash
NV>3>4
Those who play Fallout: New Vegas could you help me out? I'm currently 35min into my very first playthrough on the X360 but I'm not sure where to set the difficulty level. I'd like a challenge but don't want the enemies to become flat out unbalanced and overpowered. So my question is... what's the best difficulty to play at?
>>345423216
I know you're just baiting but lets bite anyways.
>vidya journalism
>relevant in any way
I could write a bloody essay on the amount of bad practices involved.
I suppose Gone Home is a masterpiece of interactive storytelling then.
>>345423767
>on the X360
why would you do this
>>345419525
Anyone got the screenshot collage of this? I'm sure I saw it posted all the time a few years back.
>>345423828
My pc can't run it.
>>345419525
Posting the non-racist version of this comic.
>>345423767
If you're playing with hardcore on, stick to normal. If you're not playing with hardcore mode on, play on hard
If I have a hateboner for isometric games, NV would be the best Fallout right?
>>345423910
It's not racist if it's true.
>>345423910
>non-racist
fuck off
>>345423910
Thank you. Stormweenies ruin everything they get their dirty fingers on.
>>345423993
Fallout 1 & 2 aren't isometric, they're cavalier oblique :^)
>>345423993
yes
>>345423910
I find this comic still presents a rather flawed viewpoint on the quest. tl;dr, it's still racist.
The Tenpenny residents are all transparent facades of Pre-War racism that's now being projected onto Ghouls because it's easy to call them literally inhuman from their looks and association with feral ghouls. They're a heavy-handed attempt at making them instantly "bad", because they are oppressive and biased against a group they stereotype and believe to be inhuman, Ghouls. This sets the modern gamer up to be biased against the Tenpenny residents from the start, and sympathetic to the downtrodden Ghouls. However, if one doesn't ken the message of "these super preppie people who call this other group inhuman monsters and threaten to leave when you convince everyone to play nice together" and is instead sympathetic to the Tenpenny residents, it calls into question their motives beyond the gameworld.
When the player arrives, Roy is cursing at the intercom and says they'll pay for this, or something to that effect. When you enter the tower, you're presented the opportunity to either Kill the Ghouls for Tenpenny, or Find a Peaceful Solution. You can also get the Kill the Bigots option from Roy when you go visit him in the metro tunnels, but at no point does Roy come off as someone who wants to live with these people. He obviously has a vendetta, and if you try to arrange a peaceful coexistence, he makes it quite transparent that he's unhappy with some residents. He immediately kills Tenpenny, breaking the agreement you set up. It's only a matter of time before he lashes out against the rest of the residents -- who have behavior which ranges from "yeah they're okay" to "oh my god how could you force me to live with those monsters", many of whom were against the Ghouls moving in until your silver tongue (or strong arm) managed to sway public favor. If you understand racial tension, you will see the massacre coming before you even begin the quest.
>rating fallout: NV anything above mediocre with the horrid combat system it has
Why can't Bethesda do combat right? I haven't played 4, but from Daggerfall to NV every single of their games has had shitty, unenjoyable combat. There's a limit to storyfaggotry, the core gameplay is simply fucking trash.
>>345424235
It's lampshaded at every turn.
So, this comic tells lies, essentially. Roy does not ask the Player to help find a peaceful agreement; he straight up tells you he wants to kill every last motherfucker in that building. You have to suggest finding a peaceful solution, first to the Security guard, and then to Roy. Peace is always the Player's idea, and it is always born out of a misguided attempt at getting factions that hate each other to play nice.
"Some time later" as a panel is woefully inadequate at addressing the meat of this quest, as well! That blacked out panel includes convincing or strong-arming each member Tenpenny suggests as influential into letting Ghouls stay. Two shop-keepers straight up tell you to go to hell, and leave the tower if you win a Speech check because they can't bear to live with "zombies". The Snooty Couple leave as well. That's 4 out of the, what, maybe 7 characters you have to talk to, with Mr. and Mrs. Cheng and Dashwood being favorable to the move. It is eminently transparent that the Tenpenny residents are bigots and you are supposed to dislike them, and that Roy will kill them if they mouth off to him.
The reason Three Dog reports unfavorably on your actions if you kill the Ghouls after helping them, is because they are the Oppressed ones, and the Tenpenny residents are the Bigots. You are meant to feel bad for the Ghouls, and dislike the Tenpennies. If the Player is left frustrated by the questline, it is because their Personal Motives beyond the gameworld don't mesh with the message the game was pushing. (ETA, can't confirm because I haven't gone far enough to get the radio back up again yet on this recent game and 2008 was a long time ago)
>>345424285
A comic like this comes from a viewpoint that is flawed and doesn't see what the game itself is doing, and has not considered the motives of every character; or in fact completely disregards them to make an exaggerated point.
It wasn't funny with the "bix nood", and it's still not terribly funny because it comes from this flawed viewpoint which is inherently biased against the Ghouls and does not present the quest in an honest manner.
>>345419525
>getting mad because the oppressed rise up and slaughter the bourgies
That's not very dialectical of you
>>345392652
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>>345422410
>>345422471
Anyway, 4 PA porting to NV when?
>>345424727
good thing we have The Witcher 3 (and hopefully DXMD) to show us the way
>>345425167
looks good to me
>Its a subtle anti-NV shitposting thread episode
>>345393816
let's be honesteven if Obsidian got the opportunity to make another Fallout, they won't be able to roll back on the voiced protagonist, and Skyrim-fied leveling/skill system
>>345425346
who is this person?
>>345425937
Why not?
>>345425937
they were able to unfuck some of the colossal fuckups in 3 with scripts and clever tweaking
i really hope this isn't the last we will see from a Fallout game
>>345426861
Fallout 1.5 was just released in English couple days ago
>>345426664
Because rolling back on all those "improvements" for the sake of creating a better RPG experience would basically be telling the world that "These guys fucked it up, let's show you how it's done" which is honestly true but Bethesda wouldn't want that to show a third party developer making a spinoff producing a better game than the one the main team produces. Despite what >>345426861 said, even though NV was much better than Fallout 3, the gameplay was the exact same for the most part with a bunch of little improvements that could've been mods as far as I know. I will concede a bit and say that Obsidian managed to create some great things using the fucked up engine like basic tubular magazine reloading like in shotguns and lever action rifles that Bethesda still doesn't know how to do in Fallout 4.
>>345425340
That picture was made by a fucking mongoloid because it implies New Vegas is the best game in the series by a long shot, when it's not.
>>345426928
i hope that some day we can get a new Fallout game set around the same time frame as Fallout 1.
It will be hard to do because the original Fallout games were all about FEV and Vaults with an antagonist who has a very clear long-term plan for humanity.
>>345427386
tits or gtfo...I mean, uh, prove it!
>>345390730
Bethesfags weren't born early enough to have played it anyway.
>>345391296
>all the Bethesda shit in the trash tier
It's good when things know their place
>>345427386
No, it has fewer non-skill specific options, but more skill specific ones, and lacks general information gathering or failing choices. It shows NV having more possibilities, but fewer actual choices than the original games, but better on both grounds compared to 3.
>>345390849
My PC save got corrupted so many times at launch. I had to make so many different saves in case it crashed all over again.
I enjoy playing Fallout Shelter more than I do playing Fallout 4 these days. The game isn't even worth buying just for modding sake like a lot of other Bethesda games.
>>345390072
>Fallout 4 instead of NV on great tier
Oh it's bait.
Only New Vegas's problem is Bethesda. Because of it NV was made on this broken as fuck engine, uses FPS mechanics for RPG and lacks polishing. That brings NV down to Great tier from God.
God: F1
Great: F2, NV
Good: Tactics
Meh: F3 (I liked some sidequests and Point Lookout)
Shit: F4, BoS
Not counting Shelter as a Fallout game at all.
I like how in Fallout 1, 2, and NV you felt like Mad Max regardless of morality when you walked into a town for the first time. These people would have it's problems, and you can help them if you want.
In Fallout 3 and 4 everything's so much less organic. The individual towns aren't as well designed if they exist at all, and the quests feel more like something from another story cut and pasted in.
It's a shame. Bethesda games have the benefits of 3D technology to display the world that Fallout 1 and 2 didn't, and they squander it on such mediocre gameplay and story.
>>345429278
Story doens't sell videogames, why focus?
What's the best ending possible for NV? Can't decide if going for House or Yes Man
>>345430010
Yes Man
>>345431821
How do I deal with House then?
Why ya'll hate Fallout 4
I liked it a lot
>>345421918
They didn´t even get that they were made fun of with this at first.
>>345432525
People overhyped it and then it became a circlejerk to hate it.
>>345432218
he has to die
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