Today I just finished dragon age origins and then I can honestly say that I haven't enjoyed an rpg this much in years.
I always heard that dragon age was some kind of shitty Tumblr series but now I'm not sure sure. Is it worth trying dragon age 2 and 3 or is it really as bad as I've heard?
>I always heard that dragon age was some kind of shitty Tumblr series but now I'm not sure sure. Is it worth trying dragon age 2 and 3 or is it really as bad as I've heard?
It's Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Inquisition which were always heavily criticized and rightly so.
Dragon Age 2 was just supposed to be an off-shot game of Origins, then some suit came in and said "Hey, make this a title number game instead" and we got the abortion that was Dragon Age 2. Really poor writing, except for some party banter, really poor game design, all over it's an abortion that should have never been released from the womb of decay that Bioware has become.
Inquisition is more like a single-player MMO, in the sense that while the environments may look gorgeous enough, it's filled to the brim with shit-awful MMO-tier quests. I've only played the base game and not DLCs, so I can't pass judgment on those, but the game as it is by itself is simply awful.
>>345315598
2 is mediocre but Inquisition is on point
I have 60 hrs in the game and not bored of anything or doing the main story
The AI is kind of shitty but you can control them in tactical view so its not too much of a burden
>>345315598
Origins is fifne.
2+3 is when the Tumblr shilling went full effect.
>>345315598
Yeah, 2 and 3 are terrible, I have never seen a series go to such utter shit after only one game before. Even Mass Effect wasn't this bad.
>>345315598
it's bland and hack-n-slashy but still fun now and then
Is there any difference between pc and console versions beside mods?
origins was great
it's 2 and 3 that everyone hates
for good reason
>>345315850
dont forget than da2 gameplay was largely changed for consoletards needs
>>345315598
2 Isn't nearly as bad as everyone said. It had its problems but it was a fun game.
3 is much much larger and has a different style of combat than the other two but it's still pretty fun as long as you don't try and beat EVERYTHING, otherwise it drags way way out.
>>345317510
The console version is really dumbed down. No cooldown on health poultices, you get massive amounts of money really really easily and it's overall easier. Probably to make up for the fact that the controls are shit with a controller.
No tactical view either
>Have Origins because of PS+
>Give it a try
>There is a constant audio crackling coming through my headphones as i move about the game world and assets are loaded
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck, i really wanted to play the game but i can't deal with this shit. Not sure I'd enjoy it though, isn't the gameplay basically WOW but singleplayer?
Orgins is pretty solid game, some may call it generic but I enjoyed the characters and the world.
Dragon Age 2 is probably one of the worst games I ever played mainly because it was such a downgrade compared to the first one.
I haven't played Inquisition but I'm dissapointed they dropped the "Dark" fantasty feeling from origins.
>>345318336
Inquisition is worse than 2 in many ways. You're lucky you haven't suffered it.
>>345315598
2 is garbo bar things involving the arishok
3 is mediocre but has nice looking environments
>>345318423
piss off
da2 doesn't even let you choose your race, has a shoehorned backstory and combat isn't remotely tactical because enemies parachute in
the reused maps was the worst part though
Enchantment?
>>345315598
The first game is really good and had concepts and mechanics you didn't find in games like that up until that point, it really was a golden example of RPG casual type games. The tactical mode letting you tell your companions when to use potions, what skills to focus on using and such was really good, and the ability to straight up ignore party members you don't like and have them not join your party - or tell them to fuck off if you decide not to like them - or straight up fucking murder them - was fantastic. Was almost ADULT in scope.
Then 2 and Inq came along and...well Bioware turned into SJW faggots to the max...games started showing that Bioware had lost what they had, graphics turned to shit, they couldn't keep up with the industry, even their writing went south..and it died.
>>345315598
DA:O is an amazing rpg, one of my favorites in the past years for sure.
DA2 is eeerrrrr... I'd say like this. In 2nd everything is shit except for some quests, some edgy characters and main story picks a helluva pace nearing the end. Overall it's pretty shitty, but I managed to enjoy it honestly. Combat and gameplay as a general is so fucking shot though
DA:I is a really epic kinda open-world rpg that's not like dragon age at all. It's good, it really is way better than 2 (but worse than origins). That is if you don't mind ugly as hell characters and so fucking over the top throat shoving sjw bullshit.
>Spend the first game setting up this interesting group that is made to fight the darkspawn with the player as their leader
>Second game drops pretty much everything that the first game established and is pretty horrible
Are Grey Wardens back in the third?
Is anything from the first game back in the third and remains loyal to the first game without retconnig it?
>>345318770
Enchantment
Anyway i bought all games and dlc.
Don't bother with 2 or inquisition: the Story of 2 goes nowhere and has no significance for the big chapter that is inquisition, whose Story also goes nowhere until the last dlc that is a cliffhanger for the next installment.
If you really want to, you can skip 2 and play DAI just don't go into fetch quests, do companions' ones and main Story.
If you're still hooked pirate dlcs.
Tip: the game's lore is pretty solid and important to get what's going on in DAI.
>>345319367
dude
the first game is called ORIGINS and the second doesn't even let you select race.
>>345315598
/v/ loved the fuck about Dragon Age when it came out. It was full waifufaggotry, and they loved every second of it. It's a legitimately decent game, but it does have many notable flaws that nevertheless don't make it a bad game.
The anti waifufaggotry contrarians came later, but they can't pretend it never happened.
That being said, DA2 is just a very bad game for a lot of undeniable reasons. DA3 I didn't play, but I've heard some pretty bad shit about it and the animations at least are obviously dogshit.
If you're curious, just pirate DA2 and 3. Do not buy them before you do, you will almost certainly regret it.
>>345319910
oops, wrong picture.
I also think it should be said: while DA2 was bad, it was not bad IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY like /v/ loved to parrot back when it came out. It did a few things right, and a lot of the complaints showed a lot of people were just hatewagoning without having played the game much. Hawke was a decent protagonist and Bioware gets points in my opinion for making a main character that isn't some CHOSEN ONE who waves his wand and saves everything. Many side characters were good, character models and character creator especially were improved from DAO (not a high bar I'll admit). But if you look at it overall, it's a rushed game with terrible corner cutting and terrible combat encounters mainly due to the fact they didn't want to spend the time or money designing good enemies or good encounters.
What I like the most about this game is that it's entirely up to you how exactly you secure the armies you need to fight the fugly dragon.
at its highest point DA was only mediocre
>>345319367
>Is anything from the first game back in the third and remains loyal to the first game without retconnig it?
nope. pretty sure they changed writers too, just like ME->ME3
If you don't mind tedium and monotony get Inquisition Game of the Year Edition(Don't get it through Origins though). Some things are annoying and they fuck up the lore a bit (Sloth demons are changed to "Despair" ice demons to make i easier for normies to understand, Desire demons being reworked because "not everyone likes breasts XD") But there are good moments and Tresspaser is legitamately good
>>345315598
Yes, and especially so if you've finished DAO. It's all downhill from there.
DA:O was the best RPG of its gen
DA:2 Was superman 64 tier bad
DA:I gets a lot of meme hate
>>345320774
>DA:O was the best RPG of its gen
xD
>what is Fallout New Vegas
Origins was the last real RPG where your choices actually matter.
>>345320774
>DA:I gets a lot of meme hate
DA:I problem is that it's a single player mmo.
>>345320917
So was DA:O ....
>>345320845
lol
>>345320774
>DA:O was the best RPG of its gen
What is the Witcher.
>>345320845
New vegas wasn't an RPG. It was a shooter with paper thin RPG elements tacked on
>>345320917
Witcher 3 taught me that a game can still be good even if you have to ignore the stupid open world that everyone has to put in these days
That's not to say DA:I is good, but it's decent, just don't get all the retarded collectibles and roll a rogue to burn through damage sponge enemy
Why'd they change the combat so much after DA:O? It was so fucking good.
>>345321126
Because it probably looked "too difficult" for the average teenager.
Which race and sex should I play in DAI?
>2
Chunks of gold in a sea of shit
>3
Ocean of piss with literally nothing else
I put 600hrs into this game...loved every second of it, found no enjoyment in da2 outside of that dorf.
have yet to play da3, I'll get around to it eventually
>>345321126
The dev team for a DA2 said- and I'm not making this up; that when you press a button something awesome should happen
camp is comfy as fuck
alistair best bro
zevran best slut
>needing women
>>345321126
BECAUSE IF YOU PRESS A BU'EN SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcVZQI6ybw
Origins is alright for a single playthrough, but that's about it. Outside the origins themselves, the game is pretty mediocre and generic.
Dragon Age II is legitimately awful. There's nothing redeeming about it.
I want to say Inquisition isn't as bad as DAII, but I actually played DAII through its entirety whereas I stopped playing Inquisition after 10 or so hours.
>>345315598
Origins is the best in serie, 2 is the worst. Inquisition is between.
They all are enjoyable games tho, go for it
>>345321031
>it doesn't have classes therefore it's not an RPG
have a (you)
>>345321126
Because when DA:O was 90% complete, EA acquired BioWare. Since it was too late to make changes to the game, they released it as is.
However, for DA2 and 3, EA had full control. And publishers ALWAYS want to maximize appeal of a product, and tactical combat does not appeal to the masses at all.
I heard you can't be an unrepentant asshole/be evil in Inquisition. is that true?
bullying Allistair in DAO was the best.
Is it me or do people in DAI talk way too much like modern times?
>>345320774
>>345320845
Sorry guys, liked both, but the Witcher was the RPG of it's generation.
DA:O had some truly horrible bits as well.
>>345322565
I dropped Witcher after about an hour. The combat was just too awful for me to stomach. I hear witcher 2 and 3 are pretty good but I'll never play 'em.
>>345315598
dragon age 2 is.... not very good. but it brings up a few things that will be relevant in DA:I. The game is worth the play if you always have Varric in your party
DA:I is great, not as good as Origins, but still very good.
>>345318005
No, it's a party based real-time-with-pause-rpg, like Baldurs Gate but in 3D.
>>345322621
The first two levels do suck. It was a rookie game made by a rookie developer (at the time). The other two are much more polished.
>>345322621
I agree with this. Combat where you have to click stuff in a cRPG? What the fuck were they thinking?
Dragon Age Origins was and still is an excellent RPG. While it's nothing more than your random Tolkien-eske human/dwarf/elf cliche shitshow it manages to introduce and continuesly present itself in a very imaginative way. It managed to make Tolkien grittier and bloodier. I loved that first section in the marshes, few game levels manage to introduce a world so well.
Imo DA:I was an even worse game than DA2. At least DA2 tried some different (mostly dumb) things. DA:I is just... boring. It's really just a singleplayer MMO. Instead of gray characters you literally get to fight Satan. It's guilty of Fallout4-sation:
- Dialogue is mostly meaningless
- You always have to play the hero, in DA:O you could defile the holy ashes of the games Jesus Christ to get a perk. If you brought the wrong companions, though luck, you had to kill them off
- WOW YOU GET A NEW POWER ITS GREEN BAZJOOOM EXPLOSIONS
- Fucking radial catch 0/10 quests before you're allowed to upgrade your class
I could go on. It's no suprise that apparently most of the remaining talent at BioWare left the studio after this one.
>>345322694
Is Inquisition worth playing if I already know a bunch of spoilers about the story?
I knew a decent bit about Origins but the story isn't exactly amazing and isn't really the main focus of the game since the characters are way more important so it never bothered me.
>>345322830
>Instead of gray characters you literally get to fight Satan
I know you're comparing to DA2 here, but why did you not give DA:O shit for that? It had an ancient evil as well
INquisition is the best game in the series, people who hate on inquisition are just doing so to be conntraiairam
>>345321345
Elf female (and mage)
It's really the only way to play it
>>345315598
>I'm not sure sure
Play the 2nd and 3rd game and you will get it.
>>345322879
Save yourself the time really. It's a minimum 45 hours to finish it. Without the DLC.
>>345322983
elfs look too skinny ruins the imersion
Are they going to make another dragon age game? When Baldur's Gate got handed to a new developer Gaider jumped ship ASAP. Hamburger Helper left Bioware years ago. Do they have anybody left to even write it?
>>345322939
Was this guy not written as a morally grey character? You can even recruit him afterwards.
>>345322879
Inquisition kinda fell into the open world trap and Bioware has little experience in making those titles. So the flow of the game is that you get introduced to an open world zone and do a bunch of quests. The pacing on some of the zones makes you feel like you're playing World of Warcraft going between the quest hubs. The pacing on other zones is actually pretty nice and doesn't put off that MMO vibe super hard.
It's really just a matter of how much you enjoy Bioware titles.If you liked DA:O. You'll probably like DA:I
>>345323190
Hardly. Pretty much everything he did was morally wrong, but he did it all for the right reasons.
>>345323190
And he's the main antagonist, yeah?
Wouldn't you feel silly if the entire story of DA:O revolved around "we don't have time for this retarded civil war, we gotta fight the blight"?
>>345323190
He's basically Revan.
>>345315598
Dragon Age is best rpg for me.
DA 2 is mediocre.
DA Inquisition's world feels like it's a mmorpg game.
Meredith was right!
>>345322879
the story isn't amazing, but I liked it well enough. I only knew a really vague spoiler from the final DLC though. I'd say play it if you like the companions, because the interactions there is where the game really shines. Problem there is that you have to play a few hours to get them all (and if you're like me and play through all of the Hinterlands before continuing, then it'll take quite a while).
I'd say pirate it, and then buy it if you like it.it took me 115 hours to complete iti did pretty much every single quest in the game though
>that one quest where you can fuck the dalish girl and then rub it into her beta orbiter's face
>>345323232
I disagree with this. Full disclaimer though, I've been tired of stupid empty open worlds for ages so I'm not exactly unbiased.
Every single fucking zone only has "clear these enemies" and "get me some plants and shit" quests. They're filled with collectibles that pretty much solely exist for the sake of collecting itself
>shards that give you like 5% elemental resistance if you pick up 200 of them
>observatories that only exist so people can feel intellectually superior if they've heard of Eulerian paths, which lead to treasure you don't need
2 was a shitshow. I liked their idea of a self-contained story set in a sprawling city, but the execution was incredibly shitty and rushed. Not to mention the majority of the cast was simply unlikeable, especially fucking Anders. I'm still mad they turned him into a gay suicide bomber that you can't even be friends with unless you sleep with him.
Inquistion, on the other hand, has me conflicted. The environment is nice as well as armor design, but the ui is generic and the character models/animations are poor. The story is mediocre, character personalities replaced with sexuality, and some characters are just terrible. People like Solas and Blackwall are decent though. Also being a mage is pretty awesome because you can get a lightsaber amd become invincible
>>345323570
>I'd say play it if you like the companions, because the interactions there is where the game really shines
That's exactly what I was looking for. Story is always secondary to the characters for me in BioWare titles, I got way more enjoyment from the party camp bits on Origins than I did from the plot itself.
I'll give it a go, thanks.
>>345322983
But I already played as an elf in DAO. Admittedly, it was a rogue city elf but still. Is there anything interesting for the Qunari? I guess being the romantic interest of Solas is the whole point.
>>345323825
I didn't romance Solas and the story was fine, it really didn't need another layer of "b-but I love you and shit"
>Is there anything interesting for the Qunari
There's nothing interesting for any race
Why is the character creator so terrible?
>>345323825
I only did one playthrough, so I wouldn't know, but I imagine playing as a qunari can be pretty interesting, nothing huge though. Probably just some special dialogue when the Qun is involved.
>>345323492
Mages are fucking idiots that cut their nose to spite their face, but the oppression of the Chantry exasperated the problem.
They're both wrong.
>>345323815
This is not your average BioWare game where its 10 minutes gameplay, 10 minutes dialogues.
More like 50 minutes slugging through the game and then after seeing if your companions have new dialogue for he 4th time you get 5 minutes. But your mind is made up, go see for yourself, just go in without having your hopes up.
>>345324004
Bioware collaborated with Bethesda on it.
>>345323960
It reveals that the Dalish tattoos are actuallyslave markings.
All I ever wanted from a DA game was to be a Tevinter mage
DA:O already made mages so OP they became gods of death, why not make the story fit that and let me be a guy assaulting the Fade again
http://www.strawpoll.me/10768252
Deciding my class
>>345321880
Yes. The only options in the shitty dialogue wheel are nice, sarcastic, and blunt.
>>345315598
Origins was a great game and then the sequels shat the bed.
Origins was the last game made before most of the people who made Bioware great fucked off to somewhere that wasn't controlled by EA.
>>345324219
How the fuck is that related to romancing Solas? That's a pretty big part of entire backstory of the DLC
>>345324252
For DA;I or O? Because in Inquisition you pretty much have to be a rogue unless you love every enemy taking 5 minutes to kill
>>345323960
Iron Bull is pretty cool and so is Dorian
For maximum bantz I run Sera, Dorian, and Cassandra in my party
You have to remember Inquisition came out the same time as Gamer Gate so it got shit on by the autists and /v/irgin band-wagoners alike who never even played the game
Daelish ruins were pretty cool too
>>345324267
Can't you be an asshole in II though?
>>345324363
>not being a reaver
Rogues are shit
>>345315598
>DA:O
Great
>DA2
Rabid dog shit
>DA:I
Alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atNbk-Pf4I
>>345324363
He tells it to you. He also offers you to remove them.
>>345324448
>being a heretic
>>345324496
I might have played an Elf (who didn't romance Solas) and it came up that way, I don't remember
But I _do_ remember the ruins showing murals of him pulling the tattoos of the elves' faces
>>345324448
I don't give a shit how awesome you think Reaver combat is, I'm not gonna sit through all those damage sponges if I could just oneshot them out of stealth instead
>>345318005
It's absolutely awful on consoles anyway.
>>345324373
Is Iron Bull remotely as interesting as Sten?
Sten's dialogue on the Qunari always fascinated me in Origins, I thought it was great. As a people they seemed really interesting and well done.
>>345324732
I guess so. He talks a lot about how no one is an individual in the Qun and people are born for their role and that's what defines them
Unless you're mentally ill of course, then the Qun invents an entire caste of people who think they're the wrong gender :^)
>>345324852
The Qun and the Qunari have suffered because of Bioware's SJW/LBGT agenda.
>>345315598
Don't bother with the others. Some people say Origins isn't great, and it certainly has its flaws, but I really enjoyed it and playing through Origins three times will be more enjoyable than playing the other two, I guarantee it
I wish they stopped fucking with Qunari models through the series.
In each game they looked so different.
WITNESS GAXKANG
>>345323190
He made a call. A bad one.
Which are the best Origins and the worst?
>>345325186
WITNEEEEEEEEEEEEEESS
Dude was pretty easy with my Arcane Warrior
>>345325181
The horns were a huge improvement though. Sure, it's a retcon, but a good one.
Who should bit the dust:Hawke or Loghain?
>>345325331
Dalish Elf and Human Noble felt the most natural in how the origin links into Duncan and Ostagar.
>>345325181
I didn't care about how ugly Sera is because I wasn't gonna romance her anyway
But jesus fuck why was she so annoying? It's like she has the mind of a particularly retarded 8 year old, I even had trouble following the initial conversation when you meet her the first time (hahaha breeches so funny)
>>345325331
Human noble is good, so is dwarf noble. Mage sucks ass. Didn't play others, I hear Dwarf Commoner is good and if anything it gives you a reason to support Behlen(?), which the game lacks for pretty much any other origin.
>>345325331
City Elf is better if you are rogue female.
>>345324852
>no one is an individual in the Qun and people are born for their role and that's what defines them
>100% acceptance for special snowflake trannyfags
Please explain.
>>345325331
Dalish elf and human noble are fantastic. Haven't really tried anyone else
>humble bundle only gave me the first base game without expansion
am I fucked?
>>345325518
>tfw i kill her everytime when i first meet her
>>345325483
Dalish Elf is boring and noble is cliche as fuck.
>>345325186
Soloing this guy as Arcane Warrior was intense and fun.
This nigga and the Flesh Golem in the DLC were the only ones who could challange my Arcane Warrior builds.
>>345325181>those thicc lips will never give you the succ>ywn kiss thoseWhy the fuck did she have to be gay?
>>345325643
Naw, Awakening is alright but not a must play.
>>345325643
I've never played it with any DLC and it's enjoyable enough
conversely I think I have all the DLC with my copy of DA2 and i hate it
>>345325696
>not playing Noble Dwarf and gettng revenge on your brother
>>345325613
There's nothing to explain, BioWare just wants them progressive SJW sales
Krem itself is pretty alright I guess, they don't make that much of a deal about her retardation. It's also pretty hilarious because the first time you meet her you're like "why is her voice actress speaking like that with her voice all forced and deep?" and then you realize you were supposed to be fooled into thinking it's a man
>>345325662
I feel like buying HoI4 all of a sudden
>>345325331
Rogue female city elf by far.
>>345325643
You aren't missing much. It's merely an OK expansion. That said, get the Golem DLC.
>>345325787
Easily the best, and I happened to play it first so the rest seemed kinda lackluster in comparison
>>345325331
Noble dwarf is easy as fuck. So much money.
>>345325717
>Soloing this guy as Arcane Warrior was intense and fun.
I had more problems with the fucking enemy Arcane Warrior in Andraste's Temple
>removes all my sustainables
>drakes fuck me all day
>he casts fucking mana clash
>>345325787
>Not leaving him on the throne while you become a fucking Paragon while he remains a lowly elected king.
>>345323175
The Tresspasser DLC ended with MASSIVE potential for future titles.
>>345325643
Just pirate it, you cuck.
>>345315598
>I always heard that dragon age was some kind of shitty Tumblr series
Why are you lying? While DA:O is not always called a great, or even good, game -- people here rarely say it was shit.
>love RPGs
>hate isometric view
fuck me
>>345325843
>>345325643
By the way, by golem DLC I mean "Stone prisoner" one. The other is a hard-difficulty dungeon filled with abominations worse than the Darkspawn and Demons.
How good/long is Awakening?
If I'm thinking of playing 2 and 3 is it worth going back and replaying origins to get to awakening first?
>>345326324
It's worth going back and replaying Origins anyway nigger, it's the best in the series.
Origins, depending on your tastes can be a really good game or a great game. It's the two follow ups that are abysmal.
>>345325914
>Noble dwarf
no
>>345325839
>Rogue female city elf
no
>>345325696
>Dalish Elf
no
>>345325642
>Dalish elf and human noble
no
>>345326324
About 15-10 hours. It's much shorter than the main game. The biggest appeal is you governing the place and conscripting your companions into the Grey Wardens.
>>345326492
>those spell combinations which turned the midgame enemies into a joke
>>345324852
Sten is very different from Bull but he's fun in his own way, you get to drink with him after killing a dragon
If you go in looking for Sten you'll be disappointed
>>345324536
>not being a dragon
>>345324664
My Inquisitor is a rogue but I switch to Bull because its actually fun to play instead of 1 hitting
>>345325181
WE WUZ DRAGONS N SHIET
>>345325717
>tfw romanced Sera with a dale
You missed out nigga
>>345325832
I though Krem was a fag at first
The actual fag Dorian is actually based though
>>345325518
ITS ALL GOOD INNITSera is a good foil to the Inquisitor because of her retardation
>>345323960
>There's nothing interesting for any race
Learning thatthe ancient elves were alpha as fuck, could turn into spirits, but were led by war-mongering leaders, that the Qunari are an artificial race created by mixing elven and dragon blood, and that dwarves have been cut off from their symbiotic protectors, the Titans,was pretty interesting to me.
I think playing as an elf and romancing Solas offers the best playing experience, but that's just me. His romance is one of the best in the game though.
>>345315598
DA2 ended up being as it is due to EA, who forced Bioware to make a full game instead of a DLC in just a few years and with two potatoes. Some parts of it are decent and its ending sets the road for Inquisition.
I enjoyed DAI. It's true it feels like a MMO sometimes, but after playing the Witcher and Xenoblade X it didn't bother me that much. The maps and lore are god tier and the banters are genuinely good.
Don't fall for the /v/ meme, there is hardly homo content (Dorian is a bro and you can ignore Krem's identity by just picking a different dialogue choice).
Is it possible to play a mage that uses melee weapons/elemental weapons and fucks shit up in DA:O?
Should I send Krem and the rest of her companions to their deaths to solidify an alliance with the Qunari?
>>345326907
Yes. Arcane Warrior is the most broken class.
>>345323175
>When Baldur's Gate got handed to a new developer Gaider jumped ship ASAP
Bioware forced him to leave. before Inquisition was released and even after its release, he caused a lot of damage with his stupid interviews and posts, so much that even tumblr got tired and forced him to close his blog. he is one of the reasons the game left such a bad impression on /v/ since from the beginning.
his personality is so shitty Bioware gave the position of lead writer to Weekes, who wrote Trespasser, and told Gaider to fuck off.
>>345315850
Sort of. DA:O at that point was the most successful game Bioware had ever made in terms of total sales, but it had also had a 7 year dev cycle. The higher ups obviously wanted a sequel but the ultimatum was that it was not taking 7 years again. The deadline was instead around 2 years.
And instead of just reusing a lot of their already existing assets they decided to scrap everything and start over, but go with a really flat featureless style instead.
>all this praise for Dragon Age
BioWare shills, please leave.
>>345327015
if you like Iron Bull, no
>>345323175
They are probably going to show something at PAX.
Trespasser ended with the Inquisitor basically saying they need to go to the northern part of the map (Tevinter, Nevarra, Free Marches, Antiva) to find more people and stop Solas and the Qunari.
DAI was only the first part of a much bigger story, they said, and that is obvious by just looking at how the game ended.
>>345327221
>all this praise
lol
>>345327459
Will they come up with a new protagonist or does it look like you will play as the Inquisitor again?
>>345327093
Where can Arcane Warriors use/conjure elemental weapons?
>>345327221
>I'm so riled up for an argument i'm going to ignore the negative posts and pretend everyone is lathering on good opinions
>also here's some weebshit image
take a step back and look at your life please
>>345327591
I don't think they'd go with the Inquisitor again, not as the protag. They'd have to come up with some bs reason for them returning to level 1, which is always terrible. But you'll most likely meet the Inquisitor and probably help themunless they make it interesting and let you tear the veil open with your best bro Solas
>>345327559
>>345327684
>implying this entire thread hasn't been giving DA:O praise that it's not deserving of
>>345327591
This is what I think, and yes, I'm probably an autist.
>>345328042
>solas
>bro
I hate that bald nigger
>>345325843
>Golem DLC.
Am I the only one who was disapointed to find out the golem was female instead of a big ol gay? It was way more funny when I thought of it as an enormous gay death machine.
>>345327591
New protag. There's too much hassle in creating continuity in a game like DA.
Mark my words. You'll have a special power of some sort. Probably lucid dreaming or some bollocks since the story is diving deeper into Fade nonsense. You could be DA's Dagoth Ur.
>>345327591
Why not the Warden?
>>345328328
What's wrong with being bald?
>>345328202
It's because DA:O is a great rpg and the last good rpg Bioware will have ever made.
What I take umbrage with is how DA:I gets completely shit on for being a tumblr game just because of the easily ignorable "trans" character who Bioware themselves paid so little attention to that she stands on top of a chair rather than sitting in it.
DA:I suffers because Bioware essentially made it a single player MMO so it easily becomes a boring as fuck chore, but the writing isn't absolutely abysmal like it was in DA:2, which is a complete fucking mess.
Also, romancing Blackwall left me with one of the most difficult decisions I've ever had to make in a game, as in whether to give him to the wardens or pardon him because I was fuggin him.
>>345328328
Solas is based you fagHow different is the interactions with him if you're not an elven mage?
>>345315598
Are you the anon who asked about tips on playing DA:O a couple of days ago?
>>345328773
I left him in Skyhold and he hates me because I always side with the Templars or against the mages
He's boring even if he'sa god
>>345328656
>DA:O
>great
>generic fantasy with dragons, elves, dwarves, etc
>great
Nah, dawg.
>>345328042
>They'd have to come up with some bs reason for them returning to level 1The devs explicitly said the Anchor was removed in Trespasser also to "reset" the Inquisitor. I mean, they lost their arm, they are weak and need to relearn how to fight, and their status as Inquisitor is fucked, even if you didn't disband the Inquisition. They literally went back to level 1, in all senses.Also how could the Inquisitor come back as a simple NPC? They don't have a specific personality like Hawke and no matter what they'd say, the immersion would be broken the same and the players wouldn't recognize their character. However, the Inquisitor HAS to return, since the Veil/Solas mess is their responsibility, especially if Lavellan romanced him, so I'm pretty sure they will be the protagonist again.
>>345320917
This. It was also impossible to use tactical mode on PC because it was designed for console shitters. This meant that you'd have to control each character individually and give them orders and position them by hand.
It basically turned it into a shitty hack and slash single player mmo action rpg.
>>345325331
Good: Dwarf noble, Human noble, City elf
Bad: Dalish elf, dwarf commoner, mage
>>345326492
Mage is the best and most fun class, but the origin story sucks.
>Jowan stop being so retarded
>No Jowan stop
>Why do I even hang out with you
>Oh my fuck Jowan, put that blood magic down you'll put your eye out
>Jowan pls
>>345315598
>I haven't enjoyed one of the blandest RPG universes with a cliche story and nemesis this much in years
are RPG games really this dead when something as bland as Dragon Age gets this much praise?
>>345329298
You can all the classic fantasy elements and still make a great game.
>>345329468
post a good RPG then faggot?
inb4 some ancient gay shit like HoMM or Daggefall
>>345329443
>but the origin story sucks.
Yes, I wish there was an option to neither help him nor snitch him.
>>345328773
Solas is a great bro. If you romance him or befriend him, this is obvious, he doesn't want todestroy Thedas. I have the impression dear mother Mythal is forcing him.There are differences depending on your race. For example, if you are a human Knight Enchanter and tells him you don't think the specialization really was elven and meant what it meant, he will greatly disapprove (understandable, since you are being an ass).If you are an elven mage with the same spec and ask him the same question, he will greatly approve instead, because you are showing interest and curiosity in your elven roots
I couldn't handle dealing with the terrible Inquisition combat. The companion AI is bumfuck stupid, the UI is cumbersome and your companions never obey your orders for more than 3 milliseconds at a time. Having to constantly drag ranged characters out of melee range was a chore.
Also, none of the classes were all that interesting.
>>345329613
ultima 7
>>345329298
>having elves, dragons and dwarves makes something generic fantasy
Check out this faggot. Why not rattle off a few super unique ones that don't have those?
>>345328773
>mfw he disapproves if you ask him what kind of presents Sera might like
He is the best bro in the game.
FUCK YOU CAMMEN YOU LITTLE PUSSY BITCH
>>345329563
No you can't. This Tolkien-esque fantasy bullshit has been done to death, and Dragon Age Origins did nothing to make it interesting.
>>345315598
It is a shitty tumbr, fuck off and go back to tumblr.
>>345329843
I said no ancient shit thanks
>>345330037
>tfw nobody approves
>>345329443
Origin story for the Mages is pretty alright. If you're going to be an edgy Blood Mage, you've got the perfect set-up all along. Never talk to the First Enchanter about Jowan's plans and just go along with them. If you're Circle-loyal, then you get the pained experience of knowing you're going to have your friend made Tranquil for being in forbidden love with a Chantry priestess.
And if you're a qt Mage, you get a romance subplot with based Templar Cullen.
>>345330145
>THIS VIDEO GAME DOESNT FEATURE ONLY STRAIGHT PEOPLE FAUCKNIG TUMBLR RUINIGN MY LIFEFIEFE
>>345330171
>And if you're a qt Mage, you get a romance subplot with based Templar Cullen.>tfw no option to blow Cullen in some dark Circle corridorI fucking love roleplaying as slutty girls in RPGsDo I have a problem?
>>345315598
You did play as an edgelord mage right? or at least an edgelord city elf rogue?
>>345329964
Not him, but that's actually a pretty tall order. Final Fantasy has them, so does Elder Scrolls, the Mana series, The Witcher, Shadowrun, Might and Magic, Dungeons and Dragons, Warhammer, Warcraft, etc. I'm really drawing a blank on a fantasy series without one.
>>345330416
>I fucking love roleplaying as slutty girls in RPGs
I assume you've already heard of a Dance with Rogues but I thought I'd bring it up just in case.
>>345330279
Tranny pls go
>>345328773
>tfw he takes Lavellan in that clearing in Crestwood to tell her the whole truth, but gets too scared and tells her about the vallaslin instead
>tfw he realizes he has to let her go, both for her sake and the success of his plans
>tfw the full version of the romance song starts playing as he walks away, broken-hearted
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7vRvLzycA
That scene genuinely upset me. It was well made.
>>345330614
>I assume you've already heard of a Dance with Rogues
What's that? I'll check it out.
Can you TLDR me in the meantime?
>>345330597
The point is that doesn't make any of those games bad, nor does it mean they aren't diverse. There's a colossal difference in the lore of what Elves are in TES versus Warcraft.
After reading the books I can say that the Witcher is 100% my favorite fantasy universe and it has elves, dwarves, halflings, gnomes, dragons and about 50 types of non-dragons but they all come from fucking alternate universes and got dumped onto the same world together.
Anyone who thinks the very presence of traditional high fantasy elements makes a fantasy world bad is a retard.
>>345330597
Even Zelda has the Zora instead of Elves and the Goron instead of Dwarves. Outside of the occasional boss, I can't think of any plot significant dragons though.
>>345331187
You're a whore. A lot of problems are solved by whoring yourself out.
>>345330597
Game of Thrones and Dark Souls don't have the elves and dwarves, but they do have dargons
>>345331187
A NWN module where you play as a slutty female rogue
>>345331206
>The point is that doesn't make any of those games bad
But that was literally the only point he made:
>>345329298
>>345331187
Neverwinter's mod tailered to rogues darker, erotic, with more rape than usual.
>>345331303
Link/Zelda/etc are Elves.
>>345331303
Hylian are Elves.
>>345331492
He implied that games with traditional fantasy elements can't be great, which is what I was refuting. How are you confused by this?
>>345331390
Right, so they'd fit the original complainer's example of generic fantasy and would therefore be shit.
>>345325914
my nigga gorim with the best discounts in ferelden
>>345331390
But at least the dragons are used sparingly. Sometimes.Fuck you, Dark Souls 2
I hope OP was a Dalish Elf, because Dalish Elf Warden is the canon ending.
>>345331675
Because the topic was about how some faggot claimed you can't have generic races and be good. Then you claimed the point being made was the exact opposite.
>>345330164
>it's okay if it's shit if it's new
can smell the millennial all over you, enjoy never owning a house :^)
>>345332567
Must have been a handsome af magister before fade fucked him up.
>>345326842
>Learning that...
Is there anything interesting for humans?
>>345330102
Yes you fucking can.
Naming those races is the smallest part of a game.
There is still hundreds of ways what you can do with those races. You can have good characters, a complex story, fun gameplay.
Stop being so assblasted about Tolkien.
>>345331898
I have never been able to do a full playthrough as anything but a Daelish Elf grill. Your reasoning for joining Duncan is so good and later when you're confronted with the "ghost" of your dead friend, it's perfect. Also I love fuggin Alistair, not making him king, and letting my best bro Morrigan cuck me so I get the best end where we go Highever to mourn Duncan and then Weishaupt where Fiona should have been but DA:I retconned the books.
I always play as a dirty brown elf in games though.
stop talking about inquisition
>>345331898
how is that canon?
>>34531800 its a bioware game, just play kotor if you want to know what combat is like.
>>345332674
They were human once
why can't I romance best girl?
>>345333107
Because the writers said so. It is the default world-state
>>345332921
Male Dalish Elves also get a good payoff with the Eluvian and Morrigan. Perfect bookends
>>345333223
Because she's already dead. Go read the Memories in Orzammar, her name is listed as dead.
zevran you fucking cockslut, I already rejected you! stop it!
>>345333380
>>345333107
Human Noble with Old-god babby is the default.
who is best team?
>>345333380
What's the payoff? I'm doing a Male Dalish run right now, and I had been leaning toward the ultimate sacrifice route.
>>345333107
https://twitter.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/364864515717873665
>>345333380
well exactly, its default, not canon
Morrigan best waifuhttp://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph56c0d1f399f9c
>>345333630
Inaccurate. In-game Leliana confirmed that Morrigan is a loud screamer during sex.
>>345333514
I meant for importing into Dragon Age II. Before the original team left Bioware, it was pretty much assumed human noble would be canon
>>345333565
SpoilerYou get go into the Eluvian with Morrigan, and raise your son which has the spirit of an Old God if you did the ritual with Morrigan. This is a call back to the Dalish Elf origin, where you found an Eluvian, but were unable to enter it.
Also, Merill is a party companion in Dragon Age II, and she's in the Dalish Warden's clan.
>>345333573
>warden dead
>you get a letter from the warden in Inquisistion
>>345333565
Different variables in the game. The choices you made is shown in miniscule tidbits in the subsequent titles.
>>345333896
Oh, I thought you meant that it did something unique with the Dalish Elf. That's literally the same thing that happens with everyone else.
>>345333107
It's the default world state which follows Bioware's canon in the books. Your canon can be different, but they had to pick -something- to default to for people who didn't have an existing save file.
>>345333915
Games get tailored by save imports. Novels and comic books don't.
I believe this is why those are "canon".
>>345334002
But it's not as important to other origins, because they were never exposed to an Eluvian before.
Why do they hate dwarves?
>>345334286
theyre jealous of the Best Race
Dorian isn't as bad as /v/ says, but Sera is one of the worst party members I've seen in a long time.
>>345334286
Maybe you should be asking that to the fanbase, because both Dwarf origins were the least popular, with like 2% of players being a Dwarf commoner
>>345326121
>Tevinter
They better not fuck it up.
I want that crazy architecture, I want my tyrannical Magisters, I want myfuc boi slaves.
>>345326121
Come on. Make this fuckers fall already. I want to see "The Fall of Constantinople" kind of ending.
>>345332716
Yes, something:
>Andraste was probably a powerful mage. Many think the Maker she heard was in reality a spirit, a demon, orMythal herself
>The Lady of the Sky of Avvar legends was the elven spirit lover of Tyrdda, an Avvar heroine.
>The Lady convinced Tyrdda to take an honorable dwarf as husband because a baby named Morrighan'nan had to be born in her line.The Lady is probably Mythal again, nudging story since from the dawn of time
>Legends say there is a land beyond the Amaranthine Ocean called Amaranth, filled with rich flora and fauna. Expeditions to reach it have always failed, but a survivor was found in one of the old settlements. He had been driven mad by something and later killed himself, refusing to talk about it. Some say it might be the homeland of humans before the Veil was created and they could enter the continent.
>Kirkwall is the ancient Tevinter city where Corypheus and the other magisters held their blood ritual, breached the Fade, and entered the Golden City.
>Emperor Drakon's best friend was Ameridan, the last Inquisitor. Drakon wanted him to become the first Grand Enchanter of Thedas.
>Griffon eggs have been discovered and they hatched at Weisshaupt. Sources say the newborn griffons are adorable and in good health.
>The incident of Red Crossing which prompted the Chantry to start the Exalted Marches against the elves of Halamshiral was caused by an elf and a human woman who had fallen in love. Thinking their friend was betraying them, the elves killed the woman, a battle with the village ensued where the elf was killed, and shit hit the fan.
>>345315598
stop seeking the opinion of this cesspool and try things out for yourself.
>>345334359
>Sera the worst
>Not Vivienne
>>345315598
the BG format disappeared in the next 2 games. 3 was better than 2 imo because 2 was just edgy edgelord bullshit, and repetitive gameplay.
It's hard to go wrong with the BG style.. Pillars had some success with it too. When people are buying up BG 1 and 2 every time it's on sale, you know you've got a good recipe.
>>345334964
>not liking black republican woman
2 is awful, 3 is okay but has way too much MMO-like filler content in its "open world" and the storyline gets weird near the end.
origin ranking:
Female City Elf > Human Male Noble > Dwarf Male noble > Elven Circle Mage (makes for a great powerhungry edgelord) > Daelish Female Elf
the ones not mentioned are all trash
>>345334936
Why would you want anyone to be put through Dragon Age 2 without knowing what they're getting into, you horrid sadist?
>>345335180
>the ones not mentioned I didn't play
ftfy
What's up with the Tarod Cards in Inquisition. Do they have any meaning, theme or something?
>>345334964
Vivienne was a fucking beast if you used her right, and not nearly as fuck ugly Michael Sera.
>>345335369
yeah seriously. Ipre-orderedDA2 and I hated it for years
played it again last summer, and while all the criticism was still valid, it was a much more pleasantand overall pretty funexperience
>>345335489
you mean the companion tarot cards? they change if you do their personal quests and stuff like that. it's pretty neat
>>345335369
because everyone does not like the same thing, andI liked da 2.
What's better for a dwarf in your opinion, two handed or weapon and shield?
>>345331303
>>345331581
The first dungeon in windwaker is about helping a dragon
Was this guy even trying?
>>345335623
Then you're a dipshit with no standards and even if you did, you have to admit most of the criticism is valid enough to warrant a warning.
>>345335795
>commoner: dual wield
>noble: two-handed
>>345334964
Vivienne wasn't terrible. They just hardly did anything with her character, outside of having her backtrack on half the things they said about The Circle of Magi in Origins and DA2.
>>345335924
seriously, are you a child with no concept of someone else liking something you (and maybe even most people) thoroughly dislike? Or are you a grown man that is so scared of being wrong or alone in your opinion that you would insult other people because they think differently?
>>345315598
origins is dope
2 is trash
3 is skyrim
>>345331898
I know it doesn't have the strongest influence throughout the main story, but I always ended up playing as a mage.
Loved the intro story and the power set lets you get away with any part combination.
>>345334908
I was mad as hell by the end of Trespasser.Fuck the Dread Wolf, and fuck every elf who heeds his beck and call, I will kill every single one of them if I get the chance. WE WUZ KANGS, fuck that noise, you fucked up and you don't get to wipe everyone else out just so you can go back to arguing over which pop tart is the best for a hundred years you over the bones of everyone else. That shit will not fly.
>>345336807
Shut up, Shem
>>345336807
Don't worry, Gaspard will make Orlais great again by deporting all the illegal elven servants.
>>345336807
I was disappointed that there wasn't a random Merrill cameo with all theEluvian teleporting going on.
>>345337020
Come at me knife ears.
>>345335472
dang, you saw right through my tricks
>>345336807Solas obviously doesn't want to do it. He's most likely being forced to by Mythal because she's a major bitchTelanadas, na din'an sahlin.
Is it better for the Inquisitor to be under the geas or should I let Morrigan fall into that trap?
>>345336807
We still don't know what will happen if the Veil falls and Solas starts his "reshaping reality" thing. We might be able to convince him to do it in a different way which will preserve all the races, provided we can find such a way.
>>345337775
This.Unless you were an asshole to him, he really doesn't want to do it. Hell, he probably knows things will get shitty again, but he is basically forced to do it by two elements:Mythal, who clearly is corrupted beyond recognition and just wants the Veil to fall so she can have her revenge.the Veil itself. Throughout the game, it's stated multiple times how frail the Veil is getting. That thing is abnormal, it shouldn't exist, and all the wars and magical experiments weakened it greatly. It's going to fall on its own, but at least Solas, who created it and knows how it works, can control it and minimize the damage.
>>345338767I'm not certain I'm open to the idea of merging the realms again. It would feel like the Green ending from ME3 all over again, and I fucking despised that.
>>345338603morrigan should do it.the irony is delicious
>>345339490In this case, though, things would go back to the way they were before, their natural state. Elves and dwarves are far less than what they are supposed to be right now.As for humans, things are more complicated, since living in such a world would change everything in their society, but I think that would be preferable to annihilation and the races wouldn't be "merged", they would still be separated from each other.The merging in ME3 was a freaking clusterfuck, all the alien species dumped together into a single pot. It's much different from what could happen in DA4.
>>345333573
>https://twitter.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/364864515717873665
If you scroll down a little bit he implies that he wants the cannon to be human noble warrior, but the editors won't let him say it's that. Probably because the editors for these games suck sjw dick, and being a noble human would allow the player to create a white male character who finds females sexually appealing, which is the equivalent of satan.
>>345340231
You can make a nigger Cousland with coal-black skin
>>345340415
who takes it up the ass
inquisition is solid 7
>>345340659
And apologizes for racial injustice and is an atheist
>>345336475
Not that anon but
>b-b-b-but I l-liked it!
is not a fucking argument nor is it a good post not to mention you're just a fucking contrarian who should go fuck yourself.
>>345340415
>>345340659
>>345340794
You COULD.
But some absolute madman in the world might have the fucking gull to make the main character completely CIS. This is completely problematic and should not be allowed.
>>345341318
I just dislike the idea of there being a canon after the events of DA:O. I'm all for prequel books, but it just kinda sucks the life out of the game when someone has decided the players actionslike the Revan book
>>345341279
Doesn't that just make you a conformist to scared or too dumb to make any opinions for yourself? I'd tell you to kys, but you're brain dead enough already.
>>345328042
>helping the elves
kys
That is a smile only a deepDwarvendicking can produce.
Da:o is godlike
Rest are hot garbage and need to be avoided.
>>345341695
No it means the majority of /v/ have played and/or seen enough of 2 to realize it's horseshit and are free to warn other anons of the fact before they dive into it. Kill yourself you stupid faggot, but you won't because you're cancer and cancer needs to shit up threads to feel some sort of validation in their sad lives.
>>345342191
DAI is vast improvement over DA2, but it still doesn't approach DAO.
>>345320228
>>345321540
got more of these?
>Look back and have 200 hours playtime on Origins
>Can't reember anything about the game except being inside a really long cave
>>345342413
>majority of /v/
You're overestimating the numbers of shitposters here. And the opinions in an anonymous image-board doesn't make a fact.
You're thinking like someone actually likes you.
>>345343280
You're literally the only faggot shitposting here, GTFO.
Post best rpgs
Witcher 2/3
Dragon age origins
Mass effect 1/2
Human noble married to morrigan with old god baby is canon no matter how butthurt you sissy fuck elves get
>>345342085
That fucking art....
>>345342642
DA2 was rough, but I still think I got more out of it than I did with Inquisition.
I'd still take a small environment that actually has a few distinctive quests and interactions over having multiple big environments with nothing in them but an infinite amount of fetch quests.
>>345343634
Aww look, the brain-dead little cocksucker is getting uppity now. Go on now child, go forth and suck dicks.
Perhaps the semen would nourish your deflated brain.
>>345344127
The companions are also comfy as fuck.
>>345344384
For all the flaws, they were at least memorable.
>>345344920
>ywn have a threesome with femhawke and isabela
>>345344261
>I shall call him an uppity child and tell him to go forth
>thinking anyone actually types like this
>>345323175
What, did Gaider really leave?
>>345319367
Yes, you find out what happens to the Grey Wardens in the third. Depending on if Alastair or Loghain was a grey warden (and not a King) at the end of your Origins save, they also appear in the game and are important to the story.
And yes, tons of shit from the first game is in the third. Although the main story is more related to one of the DLCs of the second game, which is a little bullshit.
>>345344384
>>345344920
I wish they had more interactions in general, but I really liked the whole family dynamic that the group started to build up as time went on in DA2.
Varric helping everyone settling into the city. Aveline keeping the city guard away from Merrill and Anders. Feels like everyone besides Anders and Fenris were looking out for each other behind the scenes.
>>345344920
The elf girl was cringy as fuck. I couldn't listen to any of her dialogue without imagining it coming from the hamplanet that wrote it.
>>345345123
>i haven't seen
>therefore it doesn't exist
Showing your dumb again there. If your brain wasn't lacking grey matter, you would understood the concept of writing styles.
>origins
>some witch lady that is supposed to HATE men just met me
>do some good answers and treat her nicely
>next day she is french kissing me in front of my party members and then sleeping with me
No,just no, this is literally fanservice. I can't take neither character serious anymore.
>>345323175
.>>345345447
IIRC, Gaider left his position to Patrick Weekes.
The Masked Empire is his work.
He's alright.
>>345345616
Well Fenris cares in his own little way. He's even buddy-buddy with Avelines husband and was even on his way on becoming an Andratean. Anders helped Isabella with her multiple STD's other than that he did squat for his friends.
>>345323190
Half of Loghain's appeal comes from Templeman's amazing VA performance. Kinda like Irenicus and Warner's performance.
>a DA:Origins thread
Oh shit, post your characters you fucks
>>345345976
>He's even buddy-buddy with Avelines husband
Was he? Must have missed that dialogue.
Don't recall Fenris being particularly buddy-buddy with anyone.
>>345328656
Blackwall was by far the best character in DAI, but he feels so out of place with his perfectly reasonable yet mundane problem comparatively. He's not a special snowflake like the rest of your party and seems like the designed "normal guy".
>>345317151
>I have never seen a series go to such utter shit after only one game before.
Must not be a fan of perfect dark then
>>345346212
>post your characters
Mine is pretty hot.
>>345343829
I liked human mage the most, the combat as a warrior is just too boring in DA:O
>>345323649
Alpha as fuck. Did the same thing and then turned the werewolfs on them.
>>345346448
He plays cards and drinks with Donnic in his mansion Donnic during his breaks from patrols.
It's in act 3 Aveline is a bit worried about it. Though as a wife not as captain. I loved how by Act 3 everyone accepted the flaws of their friends.
>>345333223
Is it just me or did Awakening actually have really interesting characters, elf Druid aside "we need another mage" aside? Maybe because they didn't yammer on and on about their lives or something. And you need to be human noble to get the most out of Nathaniel.
>>345327664
>arcane warrior shit
>not based spirit warrior
Dodge this, fade-fag.
>>345347115
>mfw shitty facial hair in DAI means I can't play a dwarf
>>345325331
Dwarf Noble is easily the best because it ties directly into the Orzammar plotline and has the most roleplaying potential
>>345347218
No need to dodge it, I got 75 spirit resistance
>>345346664
Dude, that's not even fair. Please don't bring that up.
>>345325331
Drawf noble is my canon and I think it's the best. The worst would be drawf commoner.
>>345347218
Can't touch the magick man anon
>>345346448
I liked Blackwall, but I think he had the same problem that a lot of the party had, in that his character arc just kind of abruptly ends.
I thought that getting him out of prison would be the start to some search for redemption but it's practically the last time you bring it up.
Which story is the one more interesting in Inquisition: The one with the mages or the one with the templars? Which one makes more sense?
>>345347843
Could you hold that thought for a moment?Just kidding you don't have a choice
>>345347921
>can't touch me, I'm partially in the fade nerd!
>o-oh, double-damage to f-fade creatures? U-uh..
>>345347921
Does Spell Shield work against Templars? Is cleansing technically a spell?
>>345348328
Mages makes the most sense (in the sense that you're more likely to want to side with them), but the Templar one is more interesting.
Mage one results in a better Haven assault though.
>>345348354
Good luck, I'm behind 90% spell-resist!
>>345348445
Except he isn't partially in the fade anymore since you just used Cleanse Area:)
>>345348196
I think something that always annoys me in these games is Bioware feels the need to standardize things. Each companion needs to get the same treatment and follow identical format, no matter what. I disagree with that. Not to mention their stories never really gel with the main story so they're just there.
>>345348651
Then wouldn't he be touchable?
>>345348754
I'm already bored of looking for screenshots but there's always Force Field
Anyway on a more serious note, since you're a warriorfag: How do you solo nightmare as a warrior?
I was running an Arcane Warrior and the multiple Ogres in Denerim before the final battle almost unmade me.
Magic is for the weak.
Literally the only good thing about 2.
>>345348694
That's another reason why I have a soft spot for DA2's companions. Rather than making them all optional from the start, their roles tie into the main conflict in some fashion, embodying the different viewpoints of the factions involved and bringing certain facets of it to the forefront for debate.
>>345349139
True. Default femHawke is pretty much the biggest reason that made me able to sit through the entire game
>>345348973
IIRC you have to max dex & build dual-wielding.
Don't know though, I wasn't avid enough to do more than start it.
>>345349139
You've forgotten the Nutella smear.
>>345348536
>the main enemy of the game is an ancient incredibly powerful mage
>who seeks to restore his ancient homeland where mages ruled over the common man
>armed with a vast army of magi who sympathize with his goals
Templars are the better choice, and not just because your average mage might think twice about killing the only choice for freedom outside of a Circle he has.
>>345349509
that jawline is wrong, she looks like a fucking qunari
>>345349725
>the main enemy of the game is an ancient incredibly powerful mage
You don't know this at the time. Only makes sense on subsequent playthroughs. At that point in the game, it's just as likely the templars blew up the conclave.
>>345349725
What pisses me off the most about DAI's story is that its premise was completely unnecessary. I mean, in a world that just went completely out of balance as mages seek Independence and templars ain't having it, where Qunari are possibly considering an invasion over this and using the Kirkwall incident as an excuse to cleanse all infidels, with Anderfels' Grey Wardens growing more despotic and only other sizeable contingent existing in Orlais, not to mention Tevinter Imperium doing god knows.... what does Bioware do? Oh you know, ancient evil awakens and wants to take over the world. Why are they so creatively bankrupt when it comes to making use of their OWN settings?
>>345349925
How would the Templars blow up anything
So I haven't played DA:I, nor can I run it.
What's the canon fate of the Grey Warden?
DAII built it up that he did some grand betrayal or some shit, I can'r remember.
>>345350004
>in a world that just went completely out of balance as mages seek Independence and templars ain't having it, where Qunari are possibly considering an invasion over this and using the Kirkwall incident as an excuse to cleanse all infidels, with Anderfels' Grey Wardens growing more despotic and only other sizeable contingent existing in Orlais, not to mention Tevinter Imperium doing god knows....
fuck off with that politics shit, GoTfag
>>345350094
Templars eat Lyrium, and the one you meet in Val Royeaux is super suspicious.
>>345350104
Nothing tangible. Orlais' Grey Wardens are either allowed to stay and rebuild or you exile them and they go back to Weisshaupt and nothing happens. Doing nothing with Weisshaupt so far has been one of the greatest mishandling of the series, especially because that's where the Wardens actually control a country of their own essentially.
>>345350290
But Alistair told you they eat lyrium so they can use some kinds of counter-spells, not actual mage spells that can blow up shit
Who here enjoyed throttling the life out of this little backstabber?Dwarf nobles where you at?
>>345350253
its not even got they wrote themselves into that situation so why not go along with it? god knows it would be better then yet another generic fantasy premise.
>>345347448
I know it hurts, anon
But you can't just bottle it up forever
It isn't healthy
>>345325331
>Roll dorf noble
>mfw can attend a fucking tournament
>mfw based bro makes it out alive Denerim.
>>345350104
You mean the Warden from DA:O? He's on a quest to stop the calling, which I guess means trying to find a cure for the taint. That's all we know.
>>345350004
It's like they made a world solely for Origins and then had no idea what to do after that, so they just started dumping ideas in a bucket and half-assing all of them.
>>345350004
I actually really liked the conflict with Corypheus at Haven, but I think he was a letdown for the rest of the game.
Part of me thinks that after the ME3 ending debacle Bioware just wanted their next project to conclude with a standard good vs. evil throwdown and quick afterparty.
>>345350406
Make no mistake, templars are just mages who specialize in anti-spell magic.
>>345346687
>dwarven pre-order armor
Absolute disgust
>>345350104
There's no set in stone canon. The default world state if you don't import a different save file has the Grey Warden represented as a female elf who died to kill the Archdemon, though.
>>345350485
Everything is happening at once, which is why Corypheus is such a threat. His army and his plans are the only ones that are organized while everything else is falling apart because everyone else is trying to kill each other. I don't think that it's a bad idea.
>>345350629
You see him all of twice after haven and shit all over his plans with relative ease.
>>345350676
No they aren't, they have no magical talent. Any random fucker can become a templar by concentrating really hard and eating lyrium
>>345315598
Dragon Age 2 is unbelievably shit.
Inquisition isn't all that bad, but far more linear than 1 and the story gets super rushed at the end.
>>345347224
DA:O wasn't much better thanks to the glitch.
>>345350583
>Bhelen's a dickhead
>He's also the better political candidate for creating a progressive city that stops the asinine and oppressive caste system.
Damn it.
>>345350550
So wait the story wasn't concluded?
I though DA:I was supposed to be the finale
Dragon Age Origins was good because it was basically an RPG Game of thrones before the show was super popular.
>>345350004
That's because DA:I was supposed to be much larger. Corypheus originally was a "minor" enemy, whose only purpose was to show the elven Orb and its ties to the Fade and that the Black City had always been corrupted.
All the missions tied to him are interesting (the brainwashed Grey Wardens, the Nightmare in the Fade, the plot against Orlais, the Well of Sorrows), but he was there only to set up the scene for the true villains, the false elven gods and probably the Titans too.
Then they had to cut a lot of stuff because the game was already too full. That is why we can expect a completely different change of perspective in DA4, a refocus on the things you mentioned (and that are indeed brought up in Trespasser, by everyone). That is also why Cory looked like the usual "AN ANCIENT EVIL" trope.There is a note in the Fade written by his elven servant the night Cory and the others started the ritual to enter the Black City. It's really sad and Cory sounded like a nice man before he went nuts.
>>345350970
It was. Then the post game dlc ended in a cliffhanger.
>>345351074
>That's because DA:I was supposed to be much larger.
I don't buy that, though. Game got delayed for a year if not longer as it was. I think it's just Bioware working with that they know.
>>345350923
>he doesn't respect his traditions
You call yourself a dwarf?
Bhelen was a scourge and a political scorpion that killed his entire family to take the throne! He cares naught for anything besides his own power, and any benefit his policies create for the dwarven people are mere coincidence!
>>345350970
The warden from the first game is barely brought up. You literally only hear about him in a throwaway line if you ask Morrigan. And then you can do a War Table quest to have him send you a generic letter that basically says nothing.
>>345350923
I just recently replayed and was amazed at exactly how terrible Harrowmont is
>ending slides
>everything turned out awesome
>except Orzammar, there was a rebellion and Harrowmont got assassinated
>>345351260
>No option to go back to Orzammar and become King after outplaying Bhelen
This sucked.
>1 has a brothel
>2 has a brothel
>3 has fucking nothing
>>345350923
Bhelen is just as much of a self-centered tyrant as Loghain. Neither is fit to take the throne because both of them are too obsessed with the idea that only they know what's right for their country and thus else who gets too uppity has to be crushed as an example to the others.
>>345351074
Sounds like DA4 has potential if they can manage to find a balance between characters, quests, and exploration.
Shame that it feels like the Inquisitor's story will still be cut short though. Maybe they'll bring him/her back in one wacky DA protagonist tag-team match.
>>345351291
What in the fuck.
>>345351449
too problematic for todays progressive world
>>345351548
Because Warden was too customizable so they can't really bring the character back with all the potential decisions you could've done in Origins.
>>345351520
They'll bring him back. Like Shepard for 2
>>345351517
Oh please if you give the throne Harrowmont things get much worse in orzammar for the lower castes and ta decline. While Bhelen may be short-tempered its undenianle that what he is the better ruler
just because you don't like someone doesn't make them bad
>>345350004
DA4 is finally going to address all the issues in the north:
>Solas and his elven army
>Sten and the Qunari attacking Minrathous >Tevinter on the brink of a civil war
>Weisshaupt gone silent
>Nevarra and its Necropolis full of spirits trapped into corpses
>Antiva and its Crows
>probably something in the Free Marches too
>the Titans awakening and trying to contact the dwarves
>a new Blight apparently starting in the Anderfels
>the matter of the Well of Sorrows
>Mythal's "death" and the Old God's soul she took from Kieran if he was born
Now that Weekes is in charge, I can hope they will do a good job with all this stuff.
>>345351449
DAI had taverns with songs obviously written by interns who wanted to hang themselves and who think that's what bard songs are supposed to sound like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55vUFa9w4GU
DAI have some fucking great theme.
>>345351786
That makes absolutely no sense as a comparison
Did you let Hawke die?
>>345351259
It's true, the Architect was even supposed to come back. It's just that the game would have filled two discs that way.
The game was delayed to add more stuff, like Solas and Cullen romance and other missions, and polish the locations iirc.
>>345351853
Yeah, Weekes has so much riding on him it's not even funny. Then again keep in mind this is the guy who also wrote Cole, character wh is just as random and Sera except on the other side of the spectrum.
>>345352058
>choose between Hawke or random garbage no-name warden Stroud
It's not even a choice unless you had Alastair.
>>345351520
We definitely need to go back to more humble beginnings.
No Grey Warden, no refugee who stumbles dick-first into FAME, no Literal Jesus.
>>345351662
It's not even that much work.
Instead of all the different decisions possible narrow it down to
>Died
>Lived and did something
>Lived and did something else
That's really it.
People want to know what impact their character had. This is such a cocktease.
>>345352058
No. Loghain deserved to live.
>>345351824
>betrays his most trusted partner (his brother) to claim power for himself
>makes everyone (more) equal
>hunts his political enemies down like animals
>undoubtedly has turned Orzammar into a police state because how else is he going to uproot millenia of tradition in a decade or two
no, dwarven Stalin really isn't the best choice even if the ending slides try to portray him as such.
>>345351417
There were hints to something along those lines though.
Harrowmont pledges toadopt your sonand even back him for kingship, when hecomes of age.
>>345325331
OFFICIAL DRAGON AGE: ORIGINS ORIGIN RANKINGS
>City Elf
>Dwarf Noble
>Human Noble
>Dalish Elf
>Dwarf Commoner
>Mage
>>345352184
Or Loghain.
>>345352058
Reporting his death to Varric was the only moment in the game when I felt an emotion other than boredom. It's that fucking Hawke theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZs-sOAGgZw
>>345352389
>Dalish
>Better than anyone
Literally all that happens is you find a mirror and bam! Blight.
>>345352232
i think he meant the warden was too customizable in terms of personality too. the moment he starts talking, the players will complain he is not their beloved character.
it would be impossible to reproduce perfectly the character you roleplayed with in DAO. no way they are going to risk something like that, people even complained about that simple-ass letter he sends in DAI.
>>345319910
what is that picture even trying to say
>>345352402
That's not a choice either. Nobody would choose Loghain over Hawke.
>>345351402
>he didn't set him up with allies & golems
Your fault desu.
>>345351824
Just a hickup as a result of Bhelen's shitty machinations.
And frankly, he abandoned the golems far too quickly, simply because Branka didn't suck his dick.
He's an autocrat with 0 respect for tradition. Being the 'better ruler' is arguable, since autocrats tend to do better in trying situations than rulers who listen to their people, (like Harrowmont).
>>345352794
girl had sex but regretted it in the morning and now she's pretending like she was raped
>>345352691
You don't need to meet him though.
Just have some sort of conclusion to his story, some bard's song or anything. Instead we got literally nothing.
>>345352795
>Loghain over Hawke.
Did you mean in reverse?
>>345352260
>betrays his most trusted partner (his brother) to claim power for himself
So did many popular and well revered rulers that's fucking politics
>>makes everyone (more) equal
ending an outdated caste system is bad how? better than being more strict and oppressive possibly missing talent because someone is of lower caste
>hunts his political enemies down like animals
again medieval politics
>undoubtedly has turned Orzammar into a police state because how else is he going to uproot millenia of tradition in a decade or two
No proof what so ever especially since the caste system is unpopular for everyone who isn't a noble or a gold digger
>>345352987
I didn't stutter.
>>345352193
>no Literal Jesus.
I actually thought the whole reluctant Messiah thing was a really interesting set-up for the Inquisitor, and how the different perspectives on faith brought your people and the mystery of your powers together.
I'm just disappointed that the truth never came crashing down on everything. I expected some huge payoff for when you've finally united everyone under a common banner only to have it revealed that it was all lie that your people were using to fuel your militaristic cause. Then everything turns to civil war with everyone disputing who to follow.
>>345352804
>golems
I still don't understand how putting someone in an awesome golem body is bad somehow. Still though, I couldn't do it because of Shale
>allies
How?
>no game where you play as Andraste
There's so much conflicting historical info that it could work. Doesn't Tevinter even believe Andraste was a man?
>>345351260
Dwarven tradition stated that the children of casteless dwarves are to remain casteless, intentionally perpetuating an endless system of poverty and violent classism.
Harrowmont was a nice guy, but his political views were janked.
>>345353512
But I'm sick of games where you die in the end
>>345353512
It believes she was a powerful mage and not the spiritual wife of the Maker. They prefer to worship him, that's why their Divine is a man.
>>345352804
>>345352260
>>345351517
>>he didn't set him up with allies & golems
>Your fault desu.
oh yes kidnapping humans right under his nose and then getting into a totally one sided war that makes orzammer in a much worse position is good somehow
>He's an autocrat with 0 respect for tradition.
and? some traditions need to be dropped for change and rebirth
lets look at what bhelen accomplish during his tenure
>f Bhelen becomes king, he rules as a reformist and works to strengthen Orzammar's connection with the surface world. He embraces military aid from Ferelden (if the Warden asked for this as a boon), reduces restrictions on trade with the surface and offers casteless greater rights and privileges in exchange for military service against the darkspawn. This policy allows Orzammar to reclaim lost territory and push the darkspawn line back past the Trenches, but angers the warrior and noble castes. After several attempts on his life, Bhelen dissolves the Assembly and rules alone. Opinion is divided as to whether he should be remembered as a tyrant or a progressive ruler determined to drag Orzammar into the modern world.
Should the Anvil of the Void be preserved as well, Bhelen works with Branka to produce more golems. While this allows the dwarves to reclaim relics from old thaigs, eventually Branka refuses to make golems for the king alone and Bhelen bans its use.
this is worse than Harowmont how exactly?
>>345353027
>It's okay when Bhelen does it
He killed his family, man. That's fucked.
>outdated caste system
It's the bedrock of dwarven society you damn surface-worlder!
>killing them in the streets is just medieval politics
Not dwarven politics. They have rules about that shit. Bhelen's a thug that drags civility through the mud.
>unpopular with everyone but nobles and gold diggers
Sounds like the red revolution to me.
Not that anon btw
>>345343829
Your son being a twink is also canon no matter what.
>>345353512
>Doesn't Tevinter even believe Andraste was a man?
Well, with Bioware it wouldn't surprise me if they were both right.
I think most people go to 2 and just can't deal that the story isn't on an epic world saving scale. However that's precisely why I liked it. The smaller but more focused story on Hawke getting mad cash and then having to deal with Kirkwall troubles is the scale of stories that I like the most. But there are plot points and twists that came out of nowhere likeAnders AkbarorOrsino's I WAS EVIL ALL ALONG, but there are some that I find very interesting like the Arishok or Meredith.
I do get it on gameplay though: repetitive maps, enemies drop from ceilings and side quests that are fetch quests without any setup or closure, like those famous "Hey I found this lying around in a dungeon, is it yours? + 50G Quest Complete"for some reason that didn't bother me much thoughBut with the new-ish combat that is faster and hits harder with flashier animations than the awkward swings from Origins, I think it's more enjoyable to play the fights.
I think that overall DA2 is very much a Mixed bag of good and bad, and your enjoyment depends on how good the good parts are and vice versa. It feels like every step forward is followed by a step back for me.
>>345353936
see
>>345353873
If you choose to support Harrowmont, you will discover later in the epilogue that his reign was troubled. By sticking to the traditional dwarven ways, he further restricts rights from the lower castes while favoring the nobility, as well as further isolating Orzammar from the surface by restricting trade and refusing outside military assistance beyond equipment and herbal aid against the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads. In the following series of rebellions, it is revealed that Harrowmont falls ill, most likely due to poisoning, and dies.
If you choose to support Harrowmont and sided with Branka he uses the golems to put down Bhelen's rebellion and lives. After several riots in Dust Town, he uses the golems to practically reduce the district to rubble. Branka states that more "volunteers" are needed in order to create more golems. Harrowmont refuses, however, and Branka begins raiding the surface to capture unwilling humans and elves. This leads to a short war with Ferelden, forcing Orzammar to close its gates to the surface, thus isolating the dwarves more than ever.
This is so much more better than Bhelen thats for sure
>>345351548
>expectign Bioware to actually acknowledge a buncha choices you made in 2 previous games.
What is this? ME3?;_;
>>345354043
>But with the new-ish combat that is faster and hits harder with flashier animations than the awkward swings from Origins, I think it's more enjoyable to play the fights.
You had some good points until this. Who cares how flashy the fucking animations are?
>>345353121
Just leave shale at home, or bring her along and give her the closure she'd want.
Golems are too important to the survival of the dwarves to let Caridin destroy them forever out of spite.
>>345354565
He isn't destroying them forever, just the means of making new ones which the dwarves didn't have anymore in the first place. They were doing fine before.
>>345353736
Harrowmont was an honorable dwarf, and his political views only appear 'janked' to outsiders and humans.
>>345354043
>I think most people go to 2 and just can't deal that the story isn't on an epic world saving scale
most people just hate recycled assets and dungeons, boring as fuck missions and lousy combat
>>345353121
I see nothing wrong with it as long as its their choice or criminals on deathrow
>>345354487
I do. I like me some good animations. The melee animations in Origins were very very clunky and stiff apart from Two-handed. In 2 they were all part of an over-arching combo animation that looked a lot smoother. The mage's one is easily my favorite as well.
>>345354746
see
>>345354420
>>345353873
tell me which one you rather have as a ruler
>>345353121
Being an golem is fine if you choose it. To be an golem is to grow old without aging, to live and see all your significant others pass on before you, and to never know any real intimacy beyond some flirting. Sten & Shale are the best party-mates.
Oh, and some douche-bag might create a control wand and turn you into a mindless robo-slave. That's pretty bad.
>>345354764
Did you seriously just read the first line of that post and then replied to it?
>>345353512
I almost prefer that the rest of Andraste's story remain ambiguous.
One of my favorite sequences from Origins was the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest where you speak to all of the memories of people who who remembered her in life, detailing the tragedy of her becoming a worshipped martyr, but you never really see her yourself, just the second-hand view of those who were strongly affected by who she was.
>>345354863
I don't know what to say to this. I can cope with people having different opinions but this is as close to objectively wrong as you can be. It's pretty much literally all style and no substance
>>345351517
Bhelen is Trump, guess which way I have to vote it pretty clear.
>>345354746
>m-muh traditions
>they aren't shit you just dont get them
the bhelen and harrowmont epilogues make it clear than bhelen is superior ruler
>>345355082
>Liking better and flashy animations is wrong
>>345354043
I agree. It could be a chore to get through, regarding the reused environments and constant barrage of random thugs, but I still hold that DA2 has a certain charm to it, regarding the concept of Hawke's story being a smaller and more personal one than the Grey Warden's.
>>345355468
>worse combat somehow becomes better by having better animations
BUTTON AWESOME
>>345355636
>worse combat somehow becomes better by having better animations
But I never said that, anon. I just said I like the combat animations in DA2 better than in DAO, which is why the combat isn't a chore for me as it is for you.
>>345355905
because you have shit taste and you should probably kill yourself
>>345353873
>some traditions need to be dropped
Absolutely heretical.
I'd bet money Bhelen sends his political opponents to be turned into golems, and between that and Bhelen's general demand for total control, Branka refused to obey him.
>>345356536
This is an 18+ board, kid
>>345356668
>ignoring everything else
and no he just kills them like Harrowmonts line
>>345354420
>>345354879
KEEP THE DWARVES PURE!
MAKE ORZAMMAR GREAT AGAIN!
I heard that you can convince Branka to kill herself. What do you tell her to do it?
>>345354705
>Doing fine
>pushed back past the trenches, thaigs everywhere abandoned, two last cities cut off & under constant assault
Fact: They are not 'fine'
Fact: This is because they lost the ability to make golems
>>345355249
>heretical, dishonorable thug that spits on our ancestor's graves and topples their monuments, better than an honorable aristocrat, the loyal embodiment of traditional dwarven ways
Bhelen will never have my axe!
>>345315850
DLC is about the same as the more decent parts of the main story.
So.. worth it on a sale id say? Inq wasn't what i wanted, but it was an ok ride.
>>345356886
See
>>345356931
Dwarves don't need surface-worlders.
They need a strong caste system, time to produce new warriors, and golems to spearhead their push to retake their rightful kingdom.
>>345357806
is that right since orzammar hasn't been able to retake not even one city in centuries.
>>345357165
Except they lost all their territory (and the Anvil) while having an army of golems
>>345358186
Because they couldn't make more Golems anon.
Golems held the line and crushed the darkspawn.
>>345358304
They lost the anvil when Caridin sealed it away.
They lost their territory as they lost their Golems.
>>345358691
Except even when Harrowmont had the Golems he still accomplishes jack shit While Bhelen retakes territories without the Golems because he is actually smart
>>345315598
If you haven't played Awakening play it, IMO better than the main story.
DA2 is a short game, flawed, but worth playing.
DA:I is the longest and a great game. But it does have a bit of that SJW forced diversity nonsense, yet is not as bad as you expect it to be, the media and 4chan made it look worst than it acually is.
>>345358304
Wasn't the first Blight the worst one by far? Didn't it last centuries? They didn't even know how to kill the Archdemon.
>>345359262
>dwarves
>caring about the blight
a blight is when all the darkspawn go topside, m8
replaying dao just depresses me. fuck. muh dwarves
>>345359174
I liked Awakening well enough, but I've never heard it described as better than the main story.
Thought it felt a bit too short to really get invested in things personally.
>>345358304
I think they invented Golems after 40 years of destruction.
>>345359000
Golems need time to be produced & warriors trained before you can launch a major offensive, surfacer.
>actually smart
He sacrificed dwarven culture for it, flooding the once-proud warrior caste with dirty, uncultured casteless, and he only succeeded anyway because a blight had just been quenched.
He's clever, but I wouldn't want even a clever snake as a bedfellow.
>>345353109
I'm disappointed that the fact that you were pretty much an agent of a Dalish trickster rather than Andraste wasn't part of the reason that they wanted you to disband the Inquisition in Trespasser.
Dragon Age is filled with missed opportunities everywhere.
>>345359916
If I could've had the party from Awakenings for a full game I would've really enjoyed it. Nathaniel's personal issues with a Cousland were interesting, and that's just scraping the surface.
>>345352794
It's a modern retelling of the Classic tale of the boy who cried wolf, if you so much as inadvertently move your hand in your sleep and it touches a femnazi she'll cry rape.
So, what are the powers of the Wardens? I don't remember anything special about my character in DA:O after drinking the blood. Should you be able to detect Darkspawn and other shit from afar?
>>345355249
fuck bhelen. the ends don't justify the means
Looks like we are gonna get some giant apocalyptic wolf a là Fenrir in DA4.
>>345360712
But that's the Warden's motto.
>>345360284
Whoa, didn't know you could romance Solas as a dude.
>>345360630
In game canon they are pretty much
>more stamina
>can detect the number of darkspawn in the battlefield
>link to the Archdemon and possibility to detect where it is
>resistance to the Taint
although I don't think it changes anything in gameplay terms.
One of the details that makes you suspect of Blackwall in DAI is the fact that during a mission in the Deep Roads, when asked how many darkspawn he can sense, he answers awkwardly and really vaguely, like "Uh... Many! We better be cautious!"
>>345360207
>flooding the once-proud warrior caste
>ounce
first of all stop roleplaying second of all Harrowmont disallowed the use Golems anyway and still accomplished jackshit. While Bhelen with or without the Golems was still able to reclaim cities and that's fact. third off all why would you deny manpower in casteless just because they're casteless.
>>345360835
Good point, but dwarf wardens are dwarves first, wardens second.
Besides, with Bhelen, the only hope for the warden's son is being an unrecognized bastard, a glorified hostage to keep the paragon warden & rightful heir to the Orzammar throne in Bhelen's pocket.
That makes Bhelen occupying the throne a complete non-starter.
>>345360630
It's because the taint was a much more serious threat to your companions before it was removed as a gameplay feature. Originally, you could conscript them as Grey Wardens to cure the taint.
>>345361194
If you get Warden's keep and choose to consume whatever the hell it is that Avernus is making you get those power of blood abilities. Can't think of anything in the base game.
>>345361141
Mods sure are something, anon.
>>345360712
Because Harrowmont massacring dust town,stricter trade and caste system is justified because he was mean to you?
Bhelen wasn't even that bad if you wasn't a dawrf noble and even if you were and you "forgive"him he hooks your babby and baby momma up for life
>>345352794
it's the first page of a five page comic
>>345361712
It was a jibe at your inability to create a feminine female of an already feminine race.
Faggot.
>>345361196
Fuck you roleplaying is central to my position.
Any surface-worlder would meddle in dwarven affairs and install the progressive choice, since they're wardens and don't give a shit about honor & tradition when it comes to the blight.
Bhelen would sooner see the anvil destroyed than let the Paragon Branka make them without his consent/control.
That is simply not an option for the long-term survivability of the dwarven way of life.
>why deny manpower
Because they're dirty slobs & near-animals. Letting them roam free in the city would cause it to crumble within a generation. Just look at the crime and poverty in the slums if you need proof of their sub-dwarfism.
Why did Bioware make every origins character sans Leliana and Morrigan buttfuck ugly.
Anora looks like a tranny
>>345362219
and i'm done with this conversation
>>345362263
Leliana isn't much to look at either with her obscene lack of cheeks.
>>345361821
Maybe they shouldn't have rebelled if they didn't want to be crushed.
Casteless should know their place.
>hooks them up for life
They are his hostages to force your compliance you idiot.
>>345362038
I think that is actually for real a female elf, anon
The guy is an actual faggot, no need to invent reasons to call him that
Inquisition had a lot of great moments.
Origins is a great game, don't listen to what /v/ says. It was created while the rumblings of tumblr were still young. Sure it has gay stuff in it but honestly at the time it was still fresh and didn't feel like agenda pushing, it was just sort of something interesting they added to make some relationship choices unique.
After that? They went full tumblr and ruined everything. Two isn't quite as bad as /v/ says but it's still not good, it's more that it's insulting to Origins rather than an actually terrible game. Just sort of mediocre. I haven't played three but I know it went maximum tumblr so fuck it.
In two a character literally bombs a church if you don't have gay sex with him.
>>345354043
Literally no one has ever complained that the story in DA2 is more low-key. If anything, it's what people seem to like.
The writing isn't even the problem. The problem is that it's a shit game. Shitty combat, shitty dialogue wheel, shitty recycled areas
>>345359174
What is "forced diversity" anyway? It's just a negative way of saying diversity. I don't get what's bad with that.
>>345320774
>DA:2 Was superman 64 tier bad
It was bad, but not superman 64 bad.
>>345362880
>The writing isn't even the problem.
>WE'RE NOT BLOOD MAGES STOP OPPRESSING US
>TURNS OUT WE'RE ACTUALLY BLOOD MAGES
>>345362693
>In two a character literally bombs a church if you don't have gay sex with him.
He bombs it regardless of what you do. He has little control over it.Either his personality and of Vengeance fuse (friendship) or Vengeance acts on his own much to his horror (Rivalry).
Is siding with the mages in Inquisition worth it?
I've completed the game 3 times, but I could never force myself to go with them.
>>345363084
Oh woops, it's been awhile. I remember his dialogue made it sound like it would have been different if you fugged
>>345362581
>They are his hostages to force your compliance you idiot.
except you ask him faggot
>>345363216
It's worth it to check it out, yeah. You can always reload a save and go with templars instead
You get to see a different, pretty interesting way to find out about Corypheus' plans
>>345362219
this
keep the subdwarven in the ghetto where they belong
>>345363435
Please tell me you didn't ASK him to take your wife & child hostage.
That is just so incredibly naive, Bhelen probably laughed himself near to death when you left his chambers.
Holy cow, no wonder he succeeded in bumping you out of the picture.
>>345362038
Sarcasm lost in translation there, mate. Never denied it was ugly.
>>345363216
I wouldn't say it's worth a new game for, but if you're already doing a run it's not going to change anything down the line aside from adding the Samson sidequest for Cullen.
>>345363216
You can make them your prisoners instead them.They end up forming an Elite Mage society at your service if you do so.
>>345363925
you make no sense first you say he forcibly "adopts" your son and baby mama and when I point out you're wrong you claim that I asked him
>>345363216
Junkie Samson is less interesting than Calpernia.
>>345362219
>Fuck you roleplaying is central to my position.
No its not we're looking at Bhelen and Harrowmont objectively and Objectively Bhelen is the better ruler.
>>345363925
>wife
Oops, slipped up there. She was only ever your baby's momma.
But the fact remains: you handed them to the wolf you should have protected them from, when Harrowmont would have taken them into his house, acknowledged their birth, cleared your name, and supported the kid's royal claim when he came of age.
>>345364412
You said
>except you ask him faggot
Which sounds like you asked him.
And hostages don't have to be kidnapped. Look at feudal japan. It was a common practice for a lord to 'offer' hospitality to his underling's families, so as to keep them in his house and under his guards' blades, compelling allegiance.
