Why do so many people want No Man's Sky to fail?
because I'm a butthurt xboner
>>345308176
Because it's being advertised by Sony
>>345308176
Not that we want it, but that we know it will be a failure.
It'll be minecraft with fancy graphics.
>>345308314
>Not that we want it, but that we know it will be a failure.
do you though?
I don't want it to fail, it's just that the impotent rage of thousands of assblasted overhyped autists would be much more entertaining than the game ever could be.
>you can do anything: the indie game
>>345308454
You need help anon
>>345308176
I don't want it to fail, obviously more good games is good for someone who likes video games, however I know it will fail because the game looks to be a giant pile of shit.
>>345308176
because i like seeing hyped games fail even if i know id enjoy the game myself and secretly hope it does well
makes for better threads
>battleborn
Because so many games have come along, tantalised their game world and sold it on "you can do anything"
Excuse the space pun but they are almost universally disappointing. I think this will be no different and I guess people are just trying to discourage others from falling for the same tricks they've fallen for in the past.
>>345308176
Nobody wants the game to fucking fail.
Everybody EXPECTS it to fail.
I'm constantly amazed by how many people are incapable of telling the difference.
Don't want it to fail but i really can't see there being more than about 30 actual unique planets before pallette swaps and reused assets kick in.
They can tell us they have 18,000,000,000 all they want but they are not all going to be different to a point where it's noticable
>>345308645
>Because so many games have come along, tantalised their game world and sold it on "you can do anything"
what does that have to do with NMS?
>>345308176
I don't wish for it to fail, but all the evidence I've seen so far points to it being another generic disappointment that gets forgotten in half a year.
>>345308439
>Mighty No.9 at 4
>>345308714
It's gonna be another in a long line of overhyped disappointments.
Millennials made other purposeless, directionless games like Pokemon GO and Overwatch hits so this will be a hit too.
>>345308176
because its 60 dollars for procedurally genererated content
I don't want it to fail unless it's terr. I don't think it's going to be terrible but I don't believe for a second that it's as amazing and tantalising as they're making it out to be
>Go to planet
>See a really awesome alien creature
>Go to another planet
>See the same creature but this one is slightly taller and blue
>Go to another planet
>See the same creature but this one is slightly shorter and blueish green
>Go to another planet
>See the same creature yet again
Remember if you fall for the 'billions of possibilities' meme you are retarded
If YOU CAN DO ANYTHING was a fair and realistic selling point I'd still be playing black and white.
>>345308176
I can't possibly see given what we've been told that the game will be any good. They cry procedurally generated as if it's a good thing, no procedurally generated landscapes are good as there's nothing unique about them, you won't find anything unique in them, just different variations of the same thing and without the lure of finding something different there's no reason to explore, much like minecraft.
YOU
Pick related is why autists want it to fail.
>>345308921
>variation doesnt count because i say so
ok bud
I don't want it to fail.
I expect it to fail.
>>345308176
Because it would restore some faith in humanity if dumb fucks realized it sucks.
>>345308176
No multiplayer
>>345308176
Because it's a $15 game they're selling for $60.
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>>345308648
They can tell the difference, its just more clickbait to generate buzz around their game and get pre-orders.
I don't want it to fail, I think the concept is neat, it's just that the game looks kinda boring.
>>345309043
You're really going to defend the old Borderlands 18 zillion guns bullshit? It's the same thing with NMS.
DO
too much shilling
>>345309096
If it looks boring to you then it is obviously not for you. Some people like that type of game, who are you to say they shouldn't enjoy it just because you wont?
I don't expect it to fail. I expect it to be a disappointment.
>Some kind of exploration space game where everything is randomly generated
So this is basically like those exploration missions in Mass Effect 1 right?
>>345309126
not even close to the same thing.
BL had like, 50 models with randomized stats
this is actually different looking and sounding creatures
>>345309043
i truly hope you preordered this piece of shit
>>345308176
Because it's stupid game without any depth. Instead of making interesting game mechanics they just went
>lol everything is rundum XD 18 gazillions of """"""unique"""""" planets to """""""explore"""""""
It's just empty boring shit without ANY substence.
>>345308871
Nice buzzwords friend. I think you were born after 1985, which makes you millenial too.
Tell me, what is a game's purpose if not havning fun? People have fum with these games.
ANYTHING
>>345309074
>6 billion hours of content
>some things
no, theyre claiming you can do a lot of things
>>345309198
You're going to fall for it again. Willingly. Come on, anon, you know better.
>>345309185
Nigga did you not read my post? I don't hate no man's sky, a procedurally generated space exploration game sounds rad, but No Man's Sky hasn't really shown anything that's impressed me. Just seems like there's not much to do in the game and it'll get stale real quick.
>>345309198
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this game will have about 20 creature models and sound kits with randomised body stats, eg. height, neck shape, extremity length, voice pitch, etc)
>>345309209
actually no i didn't because there isn't a reason to and i'll be out of town on business that week anyway.
not that it really matters. $60 isn't really a big risk unless you're on welfare or something.
I don't really have an opinion on the game one way or the other, simply because nothing I've seen of it has looked interesting. I just don't understand the appeal. Meanwhile I know tons of normies at work who are super fucking hyped for it, and they can't explain why they think it will be fun beyond repeating how many worlds the game has.
>>345308932
But they never said "you can do anything". In fact, they have been pretty specific about what you do: explore planets and gather materials to upgrade your ship so that you can explore new planets as you make your way to the center of the galaxy.
>>345309392
This.
I don't know why anyone expects anything else.
>>345309218
how many planets have you been on?
the fact that we haven't seen gameplay yet and people are excited is the best part.
the power of nu-males
>>345309224
Heroine is also very fun, yet somehow as as society we've managed to realize it's lack of purpose.
>>345309308
i didn't fall for borderlands' marketing though. i knew what to expect then and i know what to expect now. i am aware of the method that produces the different species and i still think there will be sufficiently large variety
>>345309218
Wow, how long have you been playing? How did you get an early copy? The game only went gold like a week ago.
Zero fucking content, why make a thread?
>>345308648
>Nobody wants the game to fucking fail.
I bet you will be proven wrong in this thread
>>345308176
because people want games to be all cutscenes
and people know you cant make randomly generated cutscenes
>>345309482
>the fact that we haven't seen gameplay yet
What do you mean? There's some gameplay videos out there.
Zero fucking content in your post
>>345308176
> hype means game is good
> no real explanation what the game is about
> you can play for ever©
> indie Dev first production yet expensive
>>345309719
THEY DON'T COUNT OKAY
THEY DON'T COUNT
>>345309595
I'm playing videogames since the middle of 90s. After all those videos they released I can clearly see this game is shallow shit. If you generate million of something none of it will be unique so this game is absolutely pointless.
>>345309736
Don't fucking reply to my thread again unless you have something constructive to say.
>>345309762
Damn, I didn't realize they showed everything in the game already. That's disappointing, I was hoping there was going to be some stuff left to explore. I haven't seen too many gameplay videos, but it sounds like you've seen everything the game has in it already.
>>345309224
The in-game universe and therefore the game is purposeless in that there is no plot or any real goals. I was born years before '85.
>>345309782
You mean your wife's thread
>>345309751
But they didn't say you could play forever. And besides, you can play any game forever if you want.
Sean here.
What DO you guys want?
>>345309895
Don't reply to me or my Wife's thread ever again. It's 2016, you should know better.
>>345309926
LASERS
WITH
GUNS
ATTACHED TO THEM
>>345309043
>variation doesnt count because i say so
okay bud
>>345309926
to do everything
>>345309926
EVERYTHING
>>345309883
But the game isn't purposeless. Everyone is exploring and making their way to the center, that's the goal. Just because it's a long-term goal doesn't mean it doesn't have one.
>>345309963
We have lazer guns
>>345309969
That's impossible
>>345309883
The goal is to get to the center of the universe. The journey to get there, exploration, action, THAT is the purpose of playing the game.
Dumbass
>>345310096
It doesn't count.
>>345310096
And what's in the center?
>>345309880
It doesn't matter how much there is to explore is the exploration isn't done well.
>>345310175
Read a fucking press release
>>345309762
They specifically don't show the later levels where the algorithm makes crazier and crazier tweaks because they want it to be relatively novel. The only show beginner planets so far.
>>345308176
Bitter /v/irgins want everything to fail "for the lulz". Most of the detractors seems to suffer from ADHD, they need pretty explosions and a way to shout petty insults at other players with their squeaky voices for a game to keep their attention. Discovering and building would be too boring for them. Kinda pathetic.
>>345310175
Peter Molyneux with shares in Lion Head
>>345310209
I agree with that.
Still, I think they did a pretty good job at it.
>>345309926
Friend list and chat function that only unlocks if you ever actually encounter another player.
>>345310096
Reminds me of Spore even more. I assume we can expect the same levels of disappointment to go with it.
Is it possible to pk the other players?
>>345309883
That's like saying Minecraft has no goals. Yes there is, BUILD STUFF. And somehow it became literally the most popular game of the decade.
Maybe they should put some Skyrim quests and zombies and The Last of Us side-characters and then you'd be happy faggot.
>>345310245
>algorithm makes crazier and crazier tweaks
So, the water will be green and trees will be red? Holy shit that's so fucking crazy, super hyped now!
>>345309926
For there to be no micro-transactions. Please.
>>345308176
Borderlands 2 had 10 billion gun combinations, and that was marketed as something unique and interesting.
The reality was that about a grand total of 10 guns in the entire game were worth using, and only if they had a very specific set of rolls on them.
Everything else was garbage or filler.
So, were there really 10 billion guns in the game, if not even a retard would be tempted to use 9,999,999,990 of them?
I see NMS as offering that sort of false promise. There are going to be a lot of super fucking boring planets, and its going to get really samey after awhile. Same creatures, same assets, just color swapped.
If there is even a goal to the game people will figure out the fastest way to reach it, and how to avoid the filler planets. They will narrow down everything to the tiny handful of interesting worlds out there, if it is somehow possible, so they don't feel like they are wasting their time.
>>345310317
>>345310287
There's no multiplayer.
>>345310245
>The only show beginner planets so far.
Why the FUCK would they not show glimpses of actually interesting content, if they had it? Fuck off, retard.
>>345310298
How is this Spore? I mean gameplay-wise? All I can see that both games share are the setting, if No Man's Sky had exactly the same concept but set on a single planet or with parallels earth shit instead of space travel, I feel like people wouldn't mention Spore nearly as often.
Take a game like FTL.
Theres's like 8 worlds in every playthrough, and they're more or less the same. YET PEOPLE PLAY IT OVER AND OVER.
And you guys can't even fathom why people would spend more than half an hour exploring a universe worth of planets (as long as there's something like crafting, resource collecting, fighting along the way)? Jesus, people fall in love with Space Engine, where there is literally NOTHING TO DO. Or Endless Ocean or some boring as game like that.
>>345310096
>>345310031
That's like getting to the center of a tootsie roll pop. That is a very generic goal which will lead you to feel very unfulfilled in the end. A world without the player feeling as if his character has a real investment in it and there are real repercussions to his actions is going to be boring.
>>345310129
it depends
>>345310421
>If there is even a goal to the game people will figure out the fastest way to reach it, and how to avoid the filler planets. They will narrow down everything to the tiny handful of interesting worlds out there, if it is somehow possible, so they don't feel like they are wasting their time.
This is giving the game too much credit. The act of filtering out shitty planets and strategically choosing which planets to go to would at least be the semblance of depth.
>>345310425
There is, it'll just mostly amount to see stuff others players discovered, but you can see your friend's location on the galactic map and if you and someone else are in the same location you can see each other and fight like you'd fight any other ship in the game.
>>345310373
I'm glad you thought about it for two minutes. Surely you, with your intellect, can think of grander things than a team of autistic programmers working on it for years.
It's like you want to go into the game already knowing everything about it. It's like you want to watch a half-hour trailer for a 90 minute movie.
>>345310495
>I mean gameplay-wise?
Who the fuck would know because they've been totally reluctant to show anything actually resembling gameplay
Not a good sign
>>345310502
FTL isn't an exploration game, you clueless dweeb.
I want all open-world games to fail so we can go back to good games.
>>345310209
You're right. But until we either see a few consecutive hours of the game being played, not a bunch of 5 - 20 minute gameplay demos, we won't really know for sure if the exploration is done well.
>>345310491
They did though, considering a lot of people are interested in the game, that guy was wrong in saying they've only shown beginner planet because there's no way of knowing that.
>>345308176
>Why do so many people want No Man's Sky to fail?
I don't care if it fails or not. I just don't care about the game at all. Seen trailers but it doesn't inspire me or make me want to play it.
>>345310491
Because, if you've watched any interview, Sean Murray thinks it's absolutely crucial to keep the game novel. He understands that the game's charm comes from seeing new and interesting things in a universe. It's a game about reflecting on how big everything is and how small you are.
Games today are RUINED because they show off everything before the release. Even gameplay is a spoiler.
>>345310495
>No Man's Sky had exactly the same concept but set on a single planet
I see someone hasn't played Spore, then
>>345310175
Literally nothing
>>345310628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uMFHoF8VA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmJ8k9uBB0
?
>>345310591
They showed literally nothing interesting. Every planet was the same with different colors. It's Starbound all over again.
>hurr durr it looks like shit because devs secretely made it super good but didn't show it on purpose
Yeah, nah. Fuck off.
You fags always act like if a game is procedurally generated, then it must provide you with infinite hours of entertainment.
Even if it provides you with 30 hours, that's still twice the amount of 90% of games released these days.
>>345308932
They have literally never said this
Its the biggest misconception ever peddled by reddit and /v/ alike and is half the reason people shit on the game.
>>345310504
You sound like you're a blast to hang out with. Are you this optimistic about everything?
>>345310734
literally zero fucking content in the center of the universe, why play?
>>345310502
FTL had good gameplay.
No Man's Sky relies almost entirely on a few generic mechanics with no exciting gameplay.
People play Dota over and over again. People play Counter-Strike over and over again. People have been playing Monster Hunter for over a decade. People are still playing the original Doom.
Surprise, all of them have good gameplay. What's been shown of No Man's Sky is that it doesn't have good gameplay.
Is this post clear enough for you to understand?
>>345308439
>Pre-orders saying anything about the quality of the game
Hows that Skyrim and Fallout 4 doing for ya?
>>345308885
Why the fuck would that matter?
>Hi anon, we have developed literally the fucking holodeck. As a minor technical point, we didn't need many artists to create textures because of this algorithm we developed
>Then it's not worth $60
^^^^how you fucking sound
This is a new meme you guys are cooking up right?
It's not possible that people are falling for this scam right?
At least wait until a week after release for reviews, how retarded can you be to buy into this?
>>345310884
>What's been shown of No Man's Sky is that it doesn't have good gameplay.
I don't share your opinion and think you're wrong. It looks alright
>>345310175
Same planets that were on the edges
>>345310854
Yeah pretty much.
>>345309526
>yet somehow as as society we've managed to realize it's lack of purpose.
Or because it's unhealthy?
>>345308176
because it isn't going to be good
outer wilds is better then this game will be in every way, and its an educational demo
The bigger the promise is, bigger the scepticism.
>>345310884
Good gameplay is subjective. Take minecraft for example.
>>345309271
manually copying every book ever published would be 6 billion hours of content.
Doesn't mean that includes "anything" or even that a single fucking hour of it would be any fun.
>>345310690
Sean Murray is a retard obsessed with his "artistic vision". Thats why he won't let you find friends or communicate with other players, because in his retard brain he wants you to experience a vast universe alone. Never mind that thousands of people are telling him that they don't want that, but they would enjoy the exact same thing with friends.
Mark my words
>initial release
>sales look good because of all the pre-orders
>pretty soon everyone realises it's Minecraft survival mode in single player
>even people who want to like it can't make a community around it because the game actively discourages interaction and cooperation
>lasts maybe 2 month before the player base dries up
>Murray releases a patch after plummeting sales that adds in multiplayer functions
>helps sales, still low
>rip
>>345310628
So have you just ignored all the gameplay videos? They've shown it many times now. The gameplay loop is get your ship, fly to a planet, explore planet, get in ship, fly to a planet, explore planet, maybe find some materials that can upgrade your ship, get in your ship, fly to a planet, etc.
It honestly doesn't sound like it's for me, but I can see how it would be very appealing to others.
>>345308176
because it's been shilled for the last month solid
>>345310884
Because No Man's Sky's gameplay isn't imparted with a few seconds of action button presses. No Man's Sky's gameplay is something that creeps up on you. It comes from the urge to explore, and the joy that comes from acheiving that goal through resource collecting, exploring parts of the world, and crafting, trading, etc.
If I showed you someone playing minecraft who was mining cobblestone for an hour, you'd say, wow what a boring game. But what you don't know is that the excitement of mining cobblestone is for what it'll be used for and the drive behind it.
This game is deeper than just a ten-second interval of button mashing like your counter strike, dota, monster hunter, Doom.
>>345310868
Thats the mystery
>>345311076
So what you're saying is, a game dev shouldn't ever try to do the game he wants, and instead rely on the contradictory feedbacks of thousands of different sources to create a game that will satisfy no one.
>>345310421
this has already been addressed in this thread
>>345311130
Sean, stop shilling your game.
>>345308176
I didn't want it to fail, but seeing this obvious comment fishing ploy is not exactly making me like it.
>>345311076
Why is it millennials can't go two seconds without being up each others' asses?
>>345311115
No it hasn't, in fact i'd wager that 90% of threads are actually shitting on the game
>>345309271
>6 billion hours of content
>content
That's like saying a repeatable quest is endless content.
>>345310752
Nothing interesting to you. To people who like this kind of game, it's obviously very interesting, otherwise there wouldn't be any hype surrounding it.
Not every game has to be tailor made for you. People like different things, and if this game doesn't appeal to you, that's actually totally ok.
>>345308176
Because they backed Star Shitizen.
>>345310739
Looks like the same shit they've shown us countless times.
>Fly through space
>Land on planet
>Walk around scanning shit
>Interact with an alien but not really
>Walk around some more
>Fly away
They do this every single fucking time only this time they talk to an alien but refuse to show us more than the hello screen.
This game looks like it 's going to be the shining example of quality not quantity.
>>345311179
You know, I'm starting to hope the game does well just to spite these illogical people. It's ridiculous
>>345310868
Did Sean tell you the center is empty? Seems weird that he'd let that get out.
>>345311179
A game dev should realise his game isn't for him, it's for the public, and the public wants multi player. If he wants to go explore a vast universe alone and marvel at how insignificant he is, he's welcome to, but people who might buy the game want to play it differently, and refusing them is going to ruin any potential the game had
>>345310953
implying the reviewers aren't as stupid as people shilling this piece of shit.
seriously, it looks like everyone just decided to ditch their brain since sony started marketing this piece of shit.
>>345310892
preorders are a pretty good indicator of whether or not a game will succeed or fail.
>>345310672
The exploration being done well is entirely up to the player, though. They've shown off all game play features relevant to exploration. Now it's just down to how much you want to invest in it.
>>345311248
>Minecraft survival mode in single player
>"I just don't get why everyone wants to play with their friend! xD"
>>345308314
>It'll be minecraft with fancy graphics.
and without construction
>>345310953
>scam
I really wish you kids would at least look up the definition of your buzzwords so you can use them properly
>>345311130
Boy you're a pretentious queer.
Just so you know, Minecraft has superb gameplay compared to No Man's Sky and I'd like it if you didn't incorrectly compare the two.
This game is more akin to that dogshit EverQuest Landmark game.
>>345311262
By that logic no game is bad because there's always people who like to eat shit.
>>345311448
dishonest scheme sounds fairly accurate for NMS
>>345310502
Don't you talk shit about endless ocean
>>345311342
Yeah but what about all the stuff we dont' know? What if you jump into the ocean, and you find there's a whole world down there, with precious material and giant squids that eat you. It'd be ruined if you say it in a gameplay trailer, but that's what's special about the game; it's an adventure.
>>345311130
>explore
There's literally nothing to explore since whole world is just generated. It's like bad loot system with
>+1-10 to random stat
>+1-10 to random skill
>1-3 random properties
None of the items will be unique or interesting. It's the same shit.
>>345308885
kys
>>345311076
Eh, it's nice to see a developer sticking to their vision for a change. I can see why he's doing it really, there's dozens of MMOs out there, and thousands of other multiplayer games. If you want to play something with a bunch of people, you have lots of options. There's nothing wrong with a single player game existing. I do wish he'd stop dancing around the question and just say it's single player though, because the way he twists things around to be "multiplayer, but not really" almost makes it sound like he doesn't know how his own game works.
>>345311598
I know right. Might as well not explore the world unless it was hand-crafted by God himself.
You're so boring. Like, I can tell you are so boring in real life. Get a fucking life.
>>345311598
this
theres a reason this is indie, not AAA, like all indie games they put in the minimum amount of effort for maximum effect,
>>345311073
>reading sucks
american detected
>>345308439
>legion at 74k preorders
Fuck that game is dead
>>345311179
yes, unless that means making smaller tits, because then he should follow his vision
>>345311357
Nah it was just for the sake of the meme
As to the game, i don't expect much, but i hope it will surprise me. Won't buy it until a while though.
>>345311115
People are talking about a game they've been looking forward to for a few years that is finally coming out next month? They surely must all be shills! Nobody could possibly like video games enough to say positive things about them, right?
but it already did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5589h7oesNk
2:39
>>345310924
>im comparing the cost of a virtual reality system to a game that is somehow having less content than minecraft but better graphics
^^^how you sound
>>345308314
Pretty much this. It's all flash and hype words.
It feels like Spore all over again, or you can climb that mountain bullshit.
Just fucking stop with the sales pitches overhyping your game and say what it is, a space engine game with Minecraft elements.
>The company I work for does this, and usually we rip out an old but slightly functional system and replace it with a shitty proprietary system that's still in beta and doesn't work 40% of the time.
>The customer always asks how do I do X? Oh you can't yet... that's scheduled for 1.6. We're at 0.5. But the salesman promised me I could! You will... at an undisclosed time.
>Sorry we can't put your old system back, we threw it all away.
Literally fuck my company and these devs.
>>345311598
You're right. I'm sure these guys who have been programming for years just made 3 variables.
>uhh.... snow, fire, plains, water
>uhh mountains, no mountains
>udrrurrrr i guesss that's it time to ship the game hahaa i fooled them it's actually nothing and that's what they'll think because they're dumb!!
>>345311658
Stick to it all he wants, his game will flop. Or, it would if it werent for pre orders
Probably butthurt Star Citizen fags
I am not expecting a perfect game, or even that it can do more than what is shown in the trailers so far, but even if it does that well enough, I will be happy with it, because there aren't any FUN games that let you travel between stars and planets seamlessly and also land and walk around on them
ED is trying but it fucking SUCKS
>>345309926
The centre of the galaxy is a massive battle arena/war and you are assigned to teams depending on what traders you had aligned yourself with. It can be a simple game where a team has to capture and hold a planet for as long as possible. If you happen to meet any of your friends there, then multiplayer features such as chat and co-op is turned on.
The goal is the centre of the galaxy, but the purpose of the journey could be to build as strong a ship and alliances as you can before you get there. Your development can change the outcome in different ways, eg, if you focused on being a trader for the entire journey, then the resources you bring could have more of an impact on the battle than than you simply fighting in your ship.
You can even have a vague story/lesson where planets on the edge of the galaxy are peaceful, but as you head towards the centre you start seeing the traders becoming more aggressive towards others not in their alliance, etc. And as you head back out again, you hear traders talk about how peaceful it is away from the centre.
>>345311528
Nope
>>345308176
>want
Guess people still fall for everything the media tells them.
>>345311591
You're so delusional
>>345308314
>>345308624
>>345308645
>>345308678
>>345308742
>>345308921
>>345308932
>>345308995
>>345309421
>>345310421
These.
Really, OP got his answer and then some here, if he was trying to start shit I'd say he failed.
I can tell you why /v/ wants it to fail, or why /v/ wants the majority of games to fail, redditors desperate to try and create another tortanic
>>345311943
I honestly don't think it's far fetched to expect there to be oceans with life in them at all.
What I'd expect to be far fetched is a deep trading or combat system.
All No Man's Sky has ever looked like to me is a nice, relaxing game to unwind with after a long day. Sit on the couch, smoke a bowl, and just explore space. No QTEs, no shitbag 12 year olds, just me, my ship, and a near-infinite universe. Sounds kind of nice.
>>345311943
You've been presented maybe a tenth of the content through gameplay, so you assume you know everything. You're delusional.
Actual level design made by a human is important. It's the key to a good game.
Devil Daggers has really decent gameplay and the artstyle works nicely, but all you're doing is shooting stuff. That's it. There's no complex interconnected game worlds with keys and shit like quake, you're just in a dark room full of dudes like the alternate ending to half life.
The same applies here with No Man's Sky.
There's gameplay (go into space and land on planets and do stuff), and there's art style.
Yet, it's all randomly generated shit, there's nothing complex going on. It's lazy.
>>345308176
My only concern about this game is the police system. During one of the gameplay demos, you got a wanted star for defending yourself against a charging cow. I hope it's not GTA V all over again. Other than that, I look forward to it.
>>345311420
Never played minecraft because there is no real game behind it. It is just basically "lol so random" the videogame.
>>345312094
This. I really judge this as a very fun space exploration game that is kind of like a "make your own adventure" game.
If you go into NMS expecting a full fledged tight gameplay experience you're getting burned.
It will be a sandbox that will get by mostly on it being awesome to travel between stars and land your craft and look at all creation.
>>345311913
Yes. Only a complete fucking idiot would fall for any game that advertises "billions of possibilites". All games to ever do that have always been lackluster bullshit and only true in the most loosest legal sense they can get away with to avoid false advertising.
>>345308176
>confusing want with expect
(you).
>>345308176
Bitter Xfags.
>>345312107
procedural generation isn't random you retard. they design parameters for the generator to follow.
>>345312107
You're telling me normal people dont' find minecraft's caves exciting because they don't know what's coming? But then Oblivion's caves are just amazing??
>>345308648
It's not that they can't tell the difference between a desire and an expectation, it's that the article and tweet both use the phrase "people want this game to fail" as a way to demonize that group and try to both shame them and get other groups to shame them as well.
"How dare these internet nobodies just hate on this new game that's about to come out? I will pre-order this game right now and when I'm enjoying No Man's Sky I'll be happy knowing that I proved them all wrong." is the kind of reaction they're trying to get out of this. Not to mention that it'll make for some nice clickbait to generate more traffic for the site and keep the game fresh on people's minds, even if it's just the name only.And it's already happening to you and everybody else in this thread. You lost the moment you opened this thread and posted a reply.
>>345312094
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what it's supposed to be. People expecting Elite: Dangerous mixed with Spore, Battlefront, and Borderlands are crazy, and I have no idea where those expectations are coming from.
>>345312094
This. This is exactly why I'm looking forward to it. All those who are just looking space explosions and a "deep" story should just play CoD.
>>345308176
because it's red flag central
So that developers would understand that PROCEDURAL GENERATION ≠ GOOD GAME
It's a neat gimmick and works as a part of, for example, roguelikes to make replaying more enjoyable. Procedural generation has been No Man's Sky's main selling point in ads since day 1 and in a vast space game it doesn't promise adequate content. It's going to be another Spore.
In reality I don't really mind either way.
>>345308176
Looks like their shills reported /v/'s cynicism back to devs. I hope those nu males got their feeling hurt.
>>345312325
All this does is enforce me expecting it to fail and make me think even the devs have no faith in their game by pulling such dishonest moves as to try and demonize critics.
>>345312357
I dont know where this perception of people with those expectations comes from.
oh wait, yes i do. it comes from /v/ trying to turn every title into TOR scale blunders, so they make imaginary enemies to fight
>>345311704
The boxed edition, on amazon that nobody apart from collectors buy. Try again retard.
>>345308176
Cuz that would be HILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>345312484
>my secret club
retard, people shitpost about this game everywhere
>>345312478
You never know until you try.
Sure, Diablo II's "new level's every new game" is mostly bullshit, but we've come a long way. This game is BASED on it's procedural content. It's not just used for coming up with enemy designs or filling in land in Just Cause 2, it's the bread and butter. Let's see what they come up with.
Procedural generation is trash and always will be.
Is there anything to actually DO in this game?
>people can't enjoy content unless it's hand-made
Holy shit! How do you even enjoy life? or a sunset? Or just a river or a flower? How boring are you? How dependent are you on sugary drinks and flashy lights?
>>345312717
But all of that hand made by God! Down to each leaf and pebble of sand.
>>345312717
>intentionally ignoring almost every post in the thread
See >>345311990
For a list of reasons anons are skeptical over procedurally-generated vidya.
>>345312598
People who post this image either weren't there for TOR or were one of the asshurt retards who bought it because nobody can be dumb enough to think this is how it works.
>>345308176
This game makes me remember shadow of the colossus in the sense that half or big part of the game is purely scenery porn, No Man's Sky will be the same but worst because it's just exploration and we all know how much "fun"you can have in those kind of games.
>>345311386
Only if you talk about money.
When we say NML is going to be a shit game, we speak of its QUALITY. Money is irrelevant, worthless unfun garbage games become financially successful all the fucking time (Minecraft).
This game will be amazing!
>five quadrilion worlds to explore!
>visit a blue planet with orange sky
>visit orange planet wih a blue sky!
the variety is blowing my mind this game will dethrone Fallout 4 as the best game ever made
>>345312507
That's because you're not part of the audience they want. The people they're trying to get on their side exist elsewhere.
>>345312649
you sound like someone who is ready to have a nuanced discussion about this game who we should continue to engage
>>345312717
If they can create an algorithm that can create all the diverse shit that we have on real life, sure. But i don't think we're there yet, so shit might get copy-pasted with slight variations fast.
>>345310953
>At least wait until a week after release for reviews
That would have been the recipe in the 90's or even 00's, but reviewers can't be trusted anymore, not even to the small extent they used to. Reviewers of 2010's are actively working against the interests of the players.
>>345312843
>When we say NML is going to be a shit game,
but we were talking about whether it would be a failure or not.
>>345309043
When the variation is about as in-depth as the different turtle shell colors in super mario it isn't very impressive, especially if such variance is to be spread out over what is supposedly infinity minus one locations
>>345312881
I don't believe a girl like Hanna is a gamer unless she is a twitch whore.
>>345312969
this isn't a new phenomenon. maybe its time you took off those rose tinted glasses
>>345312881
Bob's Burgers art style is fucking disgusting.
>>345309198
>this is actually different looking and sounding creatures
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THAT. Serious question.
You're a gullible fucking retard who keeps falling for Spore 2, 3 and 57651 because you're a fucking child who hasn't realized that nobody can give you infinite value for 40 dollars.
>>345313094
That could be said of any flash animation.
>>345313150
>HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THAT. Serious question.
>Look at creature
>Is this different than the creature you have seen before?
>Does this sound different than the creature you've seen before?
How do you do it?
>>345312146
Minecraft is the most simplistic game there is, the only thing that's bad about the game itself it's is autistic fanbase
>>345311681
Being a lazy slob and sitting at your computer or your couch is comparable to having a career in science and exploration? Wait till my mommy and daddy hear about this! They've been so wrong about me
>>345313090
>this isn't a new phenomenon
It is. Reviewers have gotten WAY fucking worse in the past few years. They were already bad to begin with, but they used to be bad in the sense of being dishonest and corrupt. Now they actively hate their own audience and attempt to sabotage them.
>>345310175
A cutscene of you waking up as Sean Murray getting up from a dirty ikea couch surrounded by piss bottles and walking up to a row of imacs. It cuts to black with NO MAN'S SKY in large font before playing the game's credits.
>>345313209
Wakfu
>>345313215
And how many creatures have you seen in NML so far? 20?
You're going to kill yourself when you realize planet 31 is the exact same as planet 16 except the ducks are blue and the grass is red.
>>345313362
Meh
>>345313282
Even when I was a child in the late 80's to early 90's I didn't pay attention to reviews. What kind of person buys a game because a magazine or article told them to? I don't recall any of my friends doing this. It wasn't until maybe around 2005 I started seeing such gullible souls pop up.
>get a fighter ship
>blow an entire system to smithereens
>warp the fuck out and dodge
>repeat at next crowded system
It's going to be fun.
>>345313282
Yeah i know right? Like when will poeple wake up to this jew consipiracy !
>>345311076
>adds in multiplayer functions
Will never happen because that would be too hard for Joe Danger. The only real way I can see this actually happening is if they cut down on the infrastructure and allow outside parties make their own game servers with their own worlds or whatever, but that will likely never happen either because they already pooled the entire game into a master server.
>>345313329
Especially wakfu
ive just preordered this on the psn store.
how bad did i fuck up?
>>345310096
It's basically a game of Outlaw Star.
Find the Galactic Leyline!
Can you blow up a planet in it?
>>345313673
If you believe in it that much then not at all.
Whatever people are saying this game make the genre evolve.
From the 80´s to elite dangerous a space sim is go to station x, buy shit, sell it for a higher price elsewhere. And a little storyline.
In nms we have a story line, you buy here and sell there but you can craft and land anywhere on planets in a universe that feels more alive.
It's not a perfect game but probably a little more entertaining than previous games.
It's a classic game with a plus.
>>345312146
>It is just basically "lol so random" the videogame
This is a more fitting example of "lol so random" the videogame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXAOwqsmcRM
Minecraft at least has some semblance of progression and mechanical design behind it.
>>345313282
its because of copyright
reviewers depend on these companies and they get bullied into only saying good things or else they can kiss their ass goodbye
I wouldn't say everyone in that field is evil most people just can't be honest because they have those big developers breathing down their neck
if you watch people on Youtube that don't have their livelyhood depending on this and just review for fun you are bound to have mostly honest reviews
>>345313718
So your starship can grapple with other ships?
>>345313724
They've already shown that you can blow up parts of a planet. So maybe.
Because the internet is now filled with retarded faggots who want to act jaded and cool and to be apart or something like Tortanic so they can get their meme on fill the void in their small empty lives?
Anyone who thinks procedural generation can't make interesting planets is already wrong based on this image. The terrain generation is what gonna make each planet unique and differentiate from just ice or hot planets. Elite suffers from this as each planet is just flat with barely any elevation or natural formations.
>>345313992
>getting a super fast ship and do races on cliff planets
Yeah, but there's no multiplayer, so who the fuck would want it anyway?
>>345313794
Mechanical design? You are making it sound like that siege engine game. Isn't it just basically legos for teens and manchildren? Progression? I thought it had no real story and that Shadow of the Colossus had more story than it.
Procedural generation is ok but as far as I'm aware it doesn't generate anything to encourage you to explore or shit. Maybe I'm just not up to date on the game, but with the likes of Minecraft you go around looking for dungeons and rare blocks and stuff.
>>345314257
It entirely depends on the engine.
Are there any villages I can pillage? I wanna be a space pirate.
