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Don't worry, it's all the same. Just DO it.
>>345227447
>Eric: YOU KILLEDMIRA
>Q: NO I DIDN'T YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME
>Eric: THEN WHO DID IT?
>type in Q
>Q: IT WAS MEE
>Eric: IMPOSSIBLE
>shoots Q
>mfw
>>345227447
is zero time dilemma one of the ugliest games ever made?
In another timeline Delta abandoned his murder games plan and had a stint at turning the study into the lamest amusement park in the world.
>>345227780
you should finish the game before posting here
just saying
>>345228542
do i get a different outcome if i type insean?
>>345227825
Not when VLR exists
>>345227825
VLR was uglier even if I think it was a better game.
>>345228886
Just play the game, guy. Don't come back until you're finished.
>>345228886
Try typing in random greek letters
>>345227825
>thosebabymodels
It's definitely up there.
COMPLEX SORROW
i picked the right color at the beginning and beat the game
best 50 bucks ever spent
>>345229823
But 8 billion...
>>345229763
never realized how much Delta looks like Reddit
explains a lot
>>345227825
ZTD looked fine.
I'd be more concerned with the unanswered questions it leaves behind.
>>345229741
>build robot of one of the nicest kids who ever lived
>put him in the group with the serial killer and the crazy asshole
For what reason?
>>345231235
"Phi, what are you doing in there?"
"I'm cutting my next album, what do you think I'm doing?"
The only line in the game that made me laugh.
>>345231841
>u will never hear phi's album
When I was doing the Carlos and Junpei AB game section I was thinking to myself "They better not be doing a repeat of the Alice ally/betray thing from VLR..."
Then I did the other ending and yup, that's what they did.
>>345231924
Life is unfair.
>>345232339
Wasn't it Phi that the ally/betray thing happened with in VLR?
>>345231841
>>345231924
>>345232497
I want to see a picture of VLR Phi wearing a pair of headphones grooving to a beat.
>>345232534
It was both Phi and Alice.Alice was a bigger bitch about it though.
>>345232534
>>345232627
I only remember it with Alice but that's probably just because she got all huffy about it.
That said, I also haven't played VLR since it came out.
>>345232339
I knew when the AB game appeared in ZTD it was going to pull the same bullshit that happened in VLR.>Ally
>Sorry Carlos, I didn't mean to kill you. But doing so allows me and Akane can escape since 6 will be dead. Don't take it personally.
>Junpei, where are you?>Betray
>I trusted you Carlos! This is the thanks I get?!
>You killed Jumpy! *beat Carlos with extinguisher*
Such bullshit.
>>345231841
That, was one of the few funny lines. Most of the game's attempts at being funny fell flat, like...
>Someone likes cake too much...
>Oh, I know! Let's cut off Jumpei's arm!
>>345233180
I think this is also a part of why I didn't like the game as much. It just falls flat in humor and character as opposed to the old games.
>>345233021
The fire extinguisher made it worth it for me desu, one of the funniest deaths in the game.
>tfw you'll never experience safe ending for the first time
>>345234263
But I already did
I already experienced all of it for the first time
>>345234263
I think Safe Ending was the high point of the Zero Escape series as well.
>>345234263
>>345235128
True but we can always post about it.
>>345235270
This game was fucking amazing.
>>345235270
if only ZTD had flames this stylish
>>345235128
To think we'd never see Snake again...
>>345228289
C O M P L E X
M O T I V E S
Why is Delta 124?
Why are his eyes purple?
>>345236796
I assume it's because of Mind Hack since Phi doesn't have those kinds of eyes
>Sigma is actually Kyle
>Delta is actually Old Sigma
Explains why 'Sigma' is so retarded even though he's supposed to be a genius 67 year old polymath.
Old Sigma transported his consciousness into Brother, rendering him incapable of releasing Radical-6. At this point Sigma has already won and averted the disaster.
However, there is a problem: In order for Brother to be defeated in this way, he needs to EXIST in the first place. It so happens that Kyle bangs Diana and is the father. Therefore, there has to be a DECISION GAME in order to ensure that Brother is born so that he can be taken over by Old Sigma.
In the true end, Old Sigma moves all of the Deus Ex Machina shit away and destroys the virus. He then swaps his consciousness back to the future, giving Delta back his evil Brother consciousness and Young Sigma his body, with Kyle going back to the future as well.
He had to do it all this way since it was the only way to ensure that Brother wouldn't catch on to the plan.
This is why Dio was sent to fuck shit up in VLR; after Brother got his consciousness back he was pissed that his evil plans were foiled.
This of course means that Kyle is Brother in VLR but they just inject him with drugs or something to make him forget/be a total bro.
There, I fixed it.
>>345236796
He keeps his mind sharp and wears contacts.
>>345235270
>pulled taunt
i'll never not be mad about typos.
>>345233758
Honestly, 999 didn't have much in the way of good jokes either outside of maybe funyarinpa, unless you're absolutely tickled silly by puns and euphemisms for some reason. Part of why I liked VLR so much is that the dialogue consistently amused me even when it wasn't laugh out loud funny.
>>345229043
Fucking Karen. Lying whore.
>>345237316
>My computer decided to eat shit and die. I didn't want to spend all night troubleshooting the stupid thing.
>>345237595
whats the deal with kyle? i forgot
>>345229050
ZTD was uglier than VLR. VLR at least had competently done backgrounds and modelers that didn't give up on making outfits as complicated as leather jackets.
>>345237914
Fuck off, Uchi.
>>345237914
>>345237914
Replay the special endings in VLR.
>>345237914
Near the end of VLR he jumped into someone's body in the past and it was implied he was going to be present in ZTD, and then he wasn't in the game at all
>>345237995
But the models in VLR don't have a leg to stand on.
Nearly wrapping up the game now after about 16~ hours.
>Sigma is Phi's dad
all those meme theories years ago turned out to be true.
>mfw having toplay the AB game again
>>345238229
I honestly wonder if Uchikoshi just "forgot" about that ending or if he implicitly dodged trying to fit it all together.
Does the Japanese ending of VLR read the same way as the US version? Trying to rule out a shitty translation here.
>>345238387
makes her unable to run away before the rape
>>345231037
They really do ruin everything. Even Japanese devs brains.
>>345229043
I finished it in like 17 hours
I'm going to marry Carlos!
>>345238620
regardless of any excuses he already tried to pull this in ever17 with blick winkel, and ze basically has all of ever17's other twists, so it was probably intended
>>345239827
Are you his sister?
>>345240112
Que?
>the entire series happens because ofa fucking snail
I didn't want this
>>345240670
Life is simply unfair...
...Don't you think?
>>345240670
>snail causes the fanatic to exist
>the fanatic isAoiwho becomes a nihilist because he finds out about his parents' deaths
>>345240859
>father dies in a car crash
>mother kills herself because she's a selfish bitch
Snail did nothing wrong.
>>345241017
Reminder that the snail was actually controlled by a parasite.
reminder that ZTD is incomplete just like remember11
This is how I feel.
>>345241286
>>345241349
Coincidence, or morphogenetic field? You decide
>>345241349
No it isn't.
ZTD was very clearly written to be the end to Zero Escape, but Remember11 was very clearly written and left unfinished because there was no other option to actually get it released.
ZTD is canonically a mess, Remember11 is canonically an unfinished masterwork.
>>345241780
it's also a complete mess that randomly brings up mind hacking and aliens for nothing but plot devices and clearly intended to be much more then it actually was but was strapped for time. probably cuz they blew their budget on the animation
Why the fuck didn't Diana wear the bluebird as a necklace?
>mfw half of the music is re used
>mfw Mira is a shit character
>mfw Akane and Junpei feel like totally different people
>mfw barely any Sigma/Phi banter
>mfw Sigma is retarded despite being a 67 year old super genius
>mfw Eric added nothing to the plot
>mfw no Kyle
>mfw Radical-6 release was just some stupid bitch being petty
>mfw C O M P L E X M O T I V E S
>mfw Mira just chills and hangs out with everyone in the true end even though she's a fucking psycho who randomly kills everyone in half of the other endings
>mfw we never get to see an epilogue and just get a text dump
>mfw english voice actors
>mfw YOU ARE ZERO
>mfw MIND HACK
>mfw moral dilemma about shifting even though it's done 10000 times beforehand
>mfw 'fanatic'
>mfw Snape kills Dumbledore
>>345239827
Aside from all the flaws in the story, Carlos really was a good character, along with Q.
He managed to ride Akane too, while Junpei doesn't and gets smacked on the head instead, losing Akane just because her keikaku didn't go as planned.
Eric can be a drag but is very well written too.
Diana has "that" perpetual shock face. Its like its always ready for sticky white stuff.
Its strange how the returning 999 and VLR cast didn't end up on a higher tier for me. In fact aside from Junpei, Nyakane and Sigma weren't so good this time. I can't place Edgepei as high tier as siscon Carlos. Phi is lovely as always but looking back at all the teams scenes, she has the least amount of them.
>>345242180
Junpei is different because the team already has a blond version of him and apparently they didn't want to have two characters acting the same but Akane is pretty much the same she was in 999 for most of the game except maybe in 2 fragments.
>>345242695
Junpei and Akane should have had an argument where he drags out her shit and she stops pretending to be the same Akane from 999 and actually acts like the cold, calculating person she supposedly is.
>>345242438
Sigma was fine. They actually characterized him very well considering he's a lonely old man that's been locked in a base on the moon for 45 years. VLR makes it pretty clear that he's just doing what Akane told him he had to do so I never expected him to be particularly wise about what was going on.
Unfortunately, ZTD pretty much invalidates all of VLR since there is literally no reason that future Sigma and future Phi had to be the ones in the decision game; they don't actually accomplish anything that regular Sigma and Phi wouldn't have been able to do. They also never use their ability to shift until the end - the honing of which was the entire conceit of VLR.
>>345242695
>Akane is pretty much the same she was in 999 for most of the game except maybe in 2 fragments
>>345242695
>blond version of him
He wishes. Carlos is what child Junpei aspired to be, but couldn't.
>>345237601
VLR Sigma was GOAT
Why isn't Phi real
Why is life so unfair guys
>>345243058
Would have been cool and I was actually hoping to get the cold Akane that the very same description of her in the official page has.
>>345243075
Please prove me wrong.
>>345243257
Yeah, on the last thread people were saying that ZTD Sigma>VLR Sigma and I still don't get what they were thinking...
>>345243069
The good end was found in part by diana getting morphogenetic powers, which was presumably due to sigma and phi being within her vicinity.
Junpei should have been Zero.
Why? I don't know.
But that's what I want.
>>345243741
>according to my ass
I guess you can sort of justify it if you make shit up. Still no reason it had to be VLR Phi and Sigma
>>345244064
VLR establishes that you can use espers as amplifiers to power someone else up. That's pretty much what happened with diana, and she needed to know about her relationship with Phi/Sigma, as well as what was going on the other side of the yellow door, in order to hit true end.
>>345243704
I think ZTD Sigma is ok and shit at the same time
The part where they show him to be a lonely old man was great
At the same time I was excited to see him be the fucking mastermind that he was in VLR, and ZTD Sigma was nowhere near that
But the characterization is a problem that the entire returning cast in ZTD has besides Phi, and Phi is barely even in the game
>>345244551
I came from ZTD believing that it was basically another training exercise to increase people's abilities, same as VLR was for Siggy and Phi.
Basically that they had the potential to SHIFT but just needed the training to do it.
I guess you could say that due to the resonance effect their powers developed faster than normal because there were so many espers around.
Do you think the two Carlos ever hang out? It'd kind of suck if Carlos2 just had to fuck off while Carlos1 enjoyed life. Maybe they could just pretend they were twins and Maria could have two big brothers
>>345245010
>so many espers
>sigma and phi can shift like crazy but never do
>akane can apparently only pluck information but still doesn't
>junpei is useless
>carlos can't do much until he suddenly can
>diana can't do much until she suddenly can
/thread
>>345245217
I highly doubt they hung out considering that Carlos 2 isthe fanatic
>>345245314
Does anyone seriously believe this
>>345244021
>Old Junpei at the end of VLR finds the transporter
>Transports back to the facility, takes the role of Zero
>Game is built to trap every Esper, and slowly destroy the morphogenetic field
>Ends with R6 being released anyway
>>345245397
YesNo
>>345244551
Nowhere in the game do they say this, and Diana is a SHIFTer anyways so that's not even relevant. You're just making shit up.
>>345245010
All this training is fucking useless though. Junpei "trains" to access the morphogenetic fields in 999, and NEVER uses in in ZTD. Sigma and Phi "train" to SHIFT in VLR, and NEVER use it in ZTD until the very end of the game (and they would have been able to SHIFT there anyways because of an asspull). And apparently, Akane should shift in VLR but doesn't do it for some reason.
>>345245595
Replay VLR than you retard, akane literally correlated clover to that of an amplifier for phi and sigma.
>>345245709
Yes but it was stated by clover herself to be at the cost of her not being able to use her own esper abilities because they were absorbed into the stronger esper's wavelengths
Are you sure you're not the retard here anon
>>345245217
Who gets to keep the name Carlos and who has to think of a different one?
Who gets tobang Maria?
>>345245256
>akane can apparently only pluck information but still doesn't
So are there different levels of esper powers?
There's people who can basically send and receive information from eachother through the field, such as Clover and Light.
Then there's Akane who can just look at all the timelines.
Then now there's SHIFTers and MIND HACC
like what even is the morphogenetic field at this point
>>345245217
That plot hole is sad and amusing at the same time.
It's clear that the two never meet (absent from epilogue), and it'd create problems if the two tried to share a life. If Carlos 2 tried to live elsewhere under the same identity, he'd probably be seen as a fraud. He'd have to go elsewhere, start a new life in the underground.
Carlos 2 is punished Carlos.
>play ZTD right after VLR
>game is shit
>play ZTD after not playing VLR for years
>game is tolerable
>was glad zero escape threads would be back with ztd
>binged ztd in 2 days
>still really enjoyed it despite some of the loose ends particularly kyle
>zero escape threads have turned into nothing but bitter shitposting circlejerks
>>345245709
Clover can't shift; Diana can.
>>345244020
So is this a mind hack?
>>345246949
Life is simply unfair
I want to believe he came back for it and carried it out with him when everyone left after the end of VLR.
We can surely ALL agree that Sigma, Phi, Seven, K, and Carlos were the best characters in the series, right?
>>345247269
>Carlos
>good
You only think he was good because he was the best one in the mire of ZTD's terrible characters
In reality he's just shit
>>345245864
Fair enough, it's harder to say with diana than it is carlos I guess. Carlos got innate shifting powers from just being a firefighter, I don't think the game really explains why diana would have the aptitude for it.
>>345247269
Why Carlos?
The others are though.
>>345247269
You forgot Snake
>>345247269
Amen.Even my tier list agrees
>>345247495
>Carlos got innate shifting powers
>got innate powers
that's not how the word innate works actually
>>345246949
People still like it
ZTD just could have been so much more, it could have completely smashed the first two games in comparison
Instead it just didn't really do a whole lot with all of that potential and ended up being the low point of the series
>>345247612
Wait, did we just get Mass Effect 3-ed?
>>345247549
Sure it does. All carlos was doing to get those powers was his job.
>>345247269
Pretty good. I also liked Tenmyouji, Sean, and Luna, if you add them then those are all my favorites. Looking back on it, Seven was my favorite in 999 but I don't remember anything particularly memorable about him besides being the game's Gumshoe.
>>345247529
>Hating on Largomorph
Wew lad
>>345247680
It wasn't that fucking bad.
>>345247697
no you don't understand
if a quality of an object is innate, it means that quality was bestowed upon the object when it was created, so carlos always had the potential to shift since he was conceived, as did maria
like everyone else, he can simply shift "because"
>>345247680
me3's ending was so critically panned they had to make a free dlc to fix the ending to appease their consumers
>>345245217
Please explain the 2 Carlos thing. What timeline is this
>>345247269
>no Snake
>noNewscaster
otherwise, yeah
>>345247913
While this is true I don't feel like the DLC did anything noteworthy.
>>345247269
Snake is up there too
I think Akane could have been fantastic too after VLR if they didn't completely fuck her up in ZTD
>>345247680
Mass Effect 3 had run-off potential from the previous two that is also managed to fail to deliver on, so that's way worse. At least 999 isn't any worse for what ZTD has done and VLR is only a bit, with the stuff introduced towards the end.
>>345247680
It wasn't that bad, just really disappointing
So who was the best Zero, /v/?
My vote actually does go to Delta.
>>345248412
How can you actually believe this?
>>345248505
>he was born a shitter
>>345248505
Mostly because the other Zeros didn't really do anything in their games except set up the games. Aside from Sigma's message in the captain's office they were pretty much absent. Delta actually participated and interupted what was happening at several instances and influenced what was going on.
>>345248412
Sigma
I liked how Delta just outwitted the entire cast until the very end, but a lot about his character just felt off
Like his reveal, his age, his fucking eyes and his ability
I didn't really mind his complex motives crap, and I don't really understand why people shit on it beyond it being a meme
>>345247942
When Carlos used the teleporter to go back, the world would now have 2 Carlos
>>345248717
How could you give your sister the old fruit salad Eric? Your own flesh and blood!
>>345248412
I honestly don't know. In terms of imagining them setting everything up behind the scenes then maybe Delta even though I found his explanation at the end really unsatisfying. I can just imagine him staying up late working on photoshop to design the cute Zero poster in the Pod Room, browsing ebay to bid on hydrofluoric acid and thinking "boy I can't wait to get sprayed with this in one timeline", perusing the selection of big pressable buttons, making the final adjustments on his army of robo-children, stumbling on dismembered Junpei and deciding to use it to spice up the puzzles, etc.
>>345247253
While this has been raised, there's one glaring question that even the gold files didn't clear up. Just what are the "grandpa videos"? They've been stated not to be pornographic and/or anything featuring grandpas, but are inappropriate for children. What does that make them?
>>345247529
Shit: the taste
So how did the 3DS version end up running? I have the vita version it felt like throughout the entire game I was getting slowdown.
>>345247529
>no blind, brilliant, and bulletproof tier just for snake
shit taste desu
>>345249928
Quite a bit of slowdown. Still playable.
>>345249928
People said there was slowdown but I did 3DS and didn't have trouble with it. It definitely has a lower framerate than pc but I think it actually effectively masks how bad the animation is. The textures look like garbage though.
>>345249928
Did not notice any slowdown, but god were the textures absolute fucking shit. The patch on Sigma's shirt was just a giant fucking blur. I don't remember VLR being this bad.
Was thinking about getting the Steam version, but after finishing the game...nah, I'm good.
>>345227780
>Eric: I'M GONNA SHOOT YOU BECAUSE YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KILLED MIRA
>Q: NO I DIDN'T
>Eric: WHO WAS IT THEN?
>Q: IT WAS Q!
>Eric: ...
>Eric: That's clearly impossible!
>shoots him
This confused the fuck out of me until I found out why
Also
>Three-way standoff
>type "Q"
>game tells you to put in Q's real name
>type "Sean" or "Me" or "Myself"
>game tells you that you can't commit suicide
>>345250115
The tier he is in is for characters that were cucked out of screentime, development, and/or importance...such as being "dead" for most of the game. I actually do love snake.
>>345250505
>game tells you to put in Q's real name
This is kind of inconsistent because Sean doesn't know Q's real name until Q-End.
>>345237995
VLR's models were really awkward-looking, especially when not in motion. I can remember one scene in particular with Quark and a scalpel that looked fucking ridiculous.
>>345250505
I did the three-way standoff Delta end before anything else Delta related
Didn't know what the fuck was going on
>>345250505
Imagine my confusion when my dumb ass hadn't figured out the fourth member thing yet, knew about Delta and had assumed he was Zero, and typed in Delta at that part. I was absolutely beyond confused as to what the fuck was going on.
I'm not necessarily defending or agreeing with Uchikoshi on the story/ending, but I'm giving my 2 cents on why I think it turned out this way.
Stories change over time. I made a story-based game inRPG Makerand I had an idea for a sequel (because the game was more of a prologue). As I started writing the sequel, I came up with new ideas and plot points, and discarded some of the old ones. But there were parts in the first game that would make plot points of the second game not make sense. So I've been trying to find ways around that.
That could be what happened with Uchi. He probably had ZTD in his head during VLR, but when ZTD was greenlit and he actually started writing the script, he came up with different ideas.
That's just how writing is sometimes. As you write, ideas change. Maybe a new plot point he thought of conflicted with Kyle being there, etc. That's just my opinion.
>>345250505
>type "Sean" or "Me" or "Myself"
>game tells you that you can't commit suicide
Sean just gives you "Error".
>>345250505
>type in Gab
>"How could a dog do it?"
Laughed.
>>345250828
Oh shit, I hadn't thought of that. What the fuck? How did he know Delta's name then? Was it because his Quantum Computer self pulled the information from another timeline?
>literally a movie game
Voice acting was a mistake for this game. I've been playing for an hour and haven't gotten any puzzles yet.
>>345237260
That kick was so hilariously over the top. It was like something out of Monty Python.
>>345251171
I wanted the dog to be more important
>>345250828
Oh fuck. Good point.
C'mon Uchi you're better than this.
>>345251456
Yeah, the ratio of novel sections to puzzles in ZTD was way off, at least compared to the first two games. And the puzzles in this one were insanely fucking easy.
>>345251489
I feel like he was supposed to be a red herring.
>>345229823
It kind of breaks the illusion to find out that some of the stuff is scripted. I didn't know that you always get the coin toss right on your first try no matter what, and thought I had just chosen the patrician answer and felt good about it. Same with the three dice, I thought it actually was really rare to get them all to 1 and felt pretty much the way Junpei did about it afterwards, before finding out that it's just always that result on the third try.
>>345251489
>the ending where Delta shoots Gab for no reason
COMPLEX
MOTIVES
>>345250828
I thought it was a meta selection, you pick a person to shoot and Sean shoots them, it doesn't mean he's thinking "this is who" in his head.
>>345251874
But he even says "You, Delta!"
>>345251709
I can understand the coin one, as that's 50:50. But did you really think you'd get three one's that easily?
>>345251259
>>345251509
>>345251874
Nah, it's just to prevent the player from sequence breaking (or spoiling the "reveal" depending on how you look at it). By that point you've played through the C-team sequence with Carlos and Akane, where you can input "Carlos" to commit suicide. So it's pretty likely that the player tries to input "Q" at the three-way standoff just to see what happens. They kind of wrote themselves into a corner; can't say "you can't commit suicide", since Sean isn't Q; but they can't just have you shoot Q because that would ruin the twist in Q-End. So they just have a cheeky input to make sure that you've seen either Q-End2 or D-End first.
>>345251860
I fucking loved that
>>345251953
Never mind, that was during the Zero reveal.
>>345251953
Does he? I don't remember that. Maybe he really was bullshitting them all that time.
Eric holding everyone up with the gun had to be one of the most annoying things I've ever fucking seen. His blind adoration of Mira simply because of tits was beyond stupid.
>>345251981
It's supposed to be all about chance. If it had been on the first or maybe even the second try then I would have thought something was up, but it would still have been possible if it had been based on chance as I thought it was. I thought the three 1's ending wasn't actually important to the plot and that it was some rare ending for people with either luck or enough patience to go back and do it over and over.
>>345252401
It wasn't tits, he sensed his mom's heart energy or whatever the fuck
He wants to fuck his mom
>>345252401
To be fair, those are some great tits
>>345252590
Freud pls go
>>345249867
Gravure maybe?
>>345252738
>say you want to fuck your mom
>Freud was right!
>say you don't want to fuck your mom
>repressed Oedipus complex
>Freud was right!
>people refer to him as an intellectual
>these people also think ZTD>VLR>999
>>345253043
Is there anyone who genuinely believes ZTD is the best? I don't dislike the game nearly as much as most people here and honestly quite enjoyed it, but it's clearly the low point in the series.
>>345227447
That bitch. I don't even have to know the context.
i wanted to cuck junpei as carlos.
>game spoils the shit out of VLR
>game never ever tells you that Akane is Zero in 999 for some reason, the dialog always just skirts around it
I never got this.
>>345253779
999 is getting a remaster soon
and you don't NEED to know she's zero for the plot, but you do neeed to know VLR stuff
>>345252401
I dunno, Eric piggybacking on a small child through the Pod Room, creaming himself at the hammer and then the shotgun, and chasing Sean around like a slasher movie villain was pretty fun for me. I might be one of the few who like Q team the most.
>>345253779
How do you think Carlos would react had he known Akane was a prior Zero? It makes sense that Junpei and her kept it a secret.
>>345253779
I always thought the reason was that if they told Carlos he would misunderstand her complex motives
>>345253316
While I don't think it was the best (that'd be VLR for me) but I certainly enjoyed it more than 999.
Someone in another said it best, even though 999 may have the least flaws it's also the least interesting compared to the others.
>>345239827
Reminder that he isn't white. His name is Carlos.
Are there any games with a similar feeling to them to 999? I feel that VLR and ZTD are more similar to each other than either of them is to 999 and it was my favourite in the series.
>>345254110
Curious name choice, too. Couldn't have picked something less ethnically sounding? Or hell, made him Spanish?
>>345253856
>999 is getting a remaster soon
See, this kind of worries me since it's supposedly coming to PC. I don't want to give anything away, but there's a REALLY IMPORTANT THEMATIC PURPOSE to having two screens throughout the entire game MASSIVE SPOILEReverything you see and read on the TOP screen is from junpei's perspective/voice, and everything on the BOTTOM is from akane's perspective/voice, (which gives you a lot of "holy shit" moments when you replay the game with this knowledge after getting the true ending), and the final puzzle is also built around doing a certain thing with your DS.
I'm kinda concerned how these mechanics are going to be implemented in the remake. I don't see how they can do it while keeping the game's thematic purpose.
>>345254442
anon, everyone here has played 999, and the iOS post already came out, I think they just put the two types of text boxes differently and used flashes to change
>>345254604
>>345254442
also, I thinkthe narration will be voiceless until the twist, when akane's VA will start narrating
>>345254442
Aside from the final puzzle which I don't have an answer to, for the bit about perspectives I imagine they're just going to do the thing they did in VLR for vita where unvoiced exposition is done on a black screen superimposed over everything else.
>>345250828M I N D H A C K
>>345254442
It doesn't necessarily need two screens. I don't get why people think it does. It was pretty much implied (and Uchikoshi mentioned it) that Akane was basically looking through Junpei's eyes, which is why the image on the top and bottom screens are identical. The narration could just cover the screen.
The only problems would be the ship at the beginning. But you could just say that Akane connected with Junpei right after that moment.
Every Diana decision
>Sigma: Just do it!
>Phi: No, don't do it!
>>345255225
Sigma and Phi always seem to be at some sort of odds with each other.
>"Who killed X?"
>Type X
>"The dead cannot kill!'
Every goddamn time
>>345255225
>Sigma: Press the button!
I didn't want to press the button first time round, but Sigma egging me on made me do it. I got to 5 secs before I caved
>>345255372
Seems like a typicalfather-daughter relationship.
>>345253872
No, i loved Q team. The biggest flaw with ZTD is that it needs to continue the Zero Escape story. Because of this, Akane, Sigma, Phi, generally have to be part of this. When you have fucking half the cast re-used, it kind of overshadows the newer characters.
>>345255441
I thought it was pretty dumb and uncharacteristic of Sigma, considering it's his older self that should know better about the types of traps and what not.
Plus, the door was already fucking open. Literally no reason to not just walk away and ignore it.
>>345255225
>>345255441
>see blue "Do Not Press This Button!" button for the first time
>"It might be a trap by Zero. Press it, Diana!"
>see yellow Decontamination button for the first time
>"Don't press it, it's clearly suspect."
Fucking hell, Sigma.
>>345255225
i laughed out loud like a retard when sigma was screaming at her in blue button situation
>group is closed in recreation room, they could just relax and think it throughly
>literally no reason at all to rush anything
>DOOO ITTTTTTTT
>camera shake with button close-up
it had to be on purpose
>>345254442
To be fair, VLR had pretty much a similar twist.The top screen is your human eye. The bottom screen is your robotic one.. I never played it on the Vita, but i assume most people got it?
>>345255225
Someone photoshop Sigma onto Shia LaBeouf
>sigma old self in young body has serious voice, talks serious shit
>and still throws cat puns in certain situations
>>345251489
>I'll tell you something good. No wait... Two things. First look behind the bar counter...
>Dead Gab
What the fuck is [good] about that for any of the participants or Delta?
>>345252604
Probably the only good parts to look at out of any of the character models
>>345253316
Most review sites pedestal it above the other games. People who haven't played 999 or VLR in a long time also. Honestly made me think that there was some hidden extension to the game that reviewers were informed about but regular players still couldn't find. At least for a day or two, then I gave up all hope.
>>345256440
Either
Gab shifted to payoff 2
or
The team didn't have to worry about leaving Gab behind when they made their choice.
Hey, /v/. I know there is virtually no evidence for it, but who is most likely to be the religious fanatic? A stranger, or...?
>>345256821
A week or so before release, I read that a review or two said that there's an unlockable, several hour long subplot. With the way it was worded, it was almost like it was optional and I was so hyped up for it. I had totally misunderstood this and was even more disappointed on top of everything else.
>>345255658
But they didn't do anything significant with the new characters to being with.
VLR at least made the newcomers actually interesting, compelling, fun, and important to the plot.
>>345257230
Carlos 2.
>>345257230
Any serious Zero Escape fan
>>345257521
Yeah, I remember reading a review that mentioned something like a sidequest. Either Kotaku or Dtoid, might need to reread those. But what in the hell in the game would be considered optional that wouldn't be required for the true ending?
>>345257521
I assume they were talking about COMPLEX Babby Timeline end?
>>345257230
>you can't even go to the time police
>>345227447
>tfw playing on the 3DS
Never again. When 999 gets ported to Vita, just gonna transfer the collection over to that.
How did they fuck it up so bad? I feel like its not even meant for the 3DS anymore. Like some of the gameplay is actually ruining the experience with pixel hunts and some sound clips sounding so compressed, I can't even hear what some people are saying. What the flying fuck.
>>345231841
I got a chuckle out of this one. But yeah, VLR had the best flavor text in my opinion.
>>345231841
I had plenty thus far. The only unfunny one is Junpei, he's awkwardly morbid.
>>345257230
Akane wearing Free The Soul robes is what I thought instantly myself. Delta even loaded her up with the robe and the suggestion to go to his weird meeting.
>>345256639
Phi got great legs
Also Akane got a great ass considering she's supposed to be japanese
>>345257856
VLR was made for the 3DS that's why it was an okay version, it was then easily ported to Vita.
ZTD was made with Vita/PC in mind and then downported to the 3DS.
>>345258216
VLR wasn't awful minus the crashes and the save deletion bug. It still had issues, however, despite being the "base" version. ZE3 is just unacceptable quality imo, the hardware just doesn't support the game properly and the game has too much NEEDED detail for that crappy screen to be viable. I was going nuts during some of the screen searches.
>>345244020
>implying Carlos wouldn't be giving Junpei a high-five for a job well done
>>345258402
>But Gab is watching...
>>345258375
Any room in particular? I had troubles with the Core Room and starting the furnace up. Goddamn that was infuriating.
>>345258535
>Gab is Kyle and he's actually a voyeur
>>345258602
Lately? The relaxation room (I forget the name, the one where you change the walls. Control was also an issue, it was just so blurry and awkward, I had to kinda squint to make something out of all the small blocks.
I returned the game today and got my money back. Gonna buy it again once my Vita comes in because I ended up trying it on my friends and wondering why he wasnt have the same issues as me. He thought I was retarded.
>>345258602
Control room
Noticing the pink SW on the monitor is near impossible
And you can't read for shit the notes on healing room, so you have to memorize the position when they start to play.
>>345251860
I thought Delta shot gab because Gab was just going to be included in the explosion anyway. Sort of a way to put the dog out of its misery.
>>345257559
>i liked some of the new characters more than all of the returning ones
>mfw the game never really went anywhere with them
>>345245217
They were all executed, though. I mean, Carlos from the future teleports 10 months and lives elsewhere while the real Carlos does his normal stuff. The real Carlos gets into Dcom with Akane and Junpei, and they all do their stuff until C-Team gets executed. Future Carlos waits for Akane and Junpei to teleport after recharge and busts his way in to "save" them.
The true ending just takes place after the coin flip and there's only one Carlos.
Why didn't Delta just keep making copies of himself backwards in time over and over again?
Any news on the purposed VLR Steam port?
>>345259089
VLR is getting a port too? Is 999 also going to get one after?
>>345258983
What happens if I choose B and while going through the loop-da-loop the train flies off and crushes the person tied to track A?
>>345258983
He teleported to before any split, he has to exist in all the game's timelines
>>345259189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUeWk7XtdFw
>>345259089
I doubt we will hear anything on the 999 or VLR port for a while since it was just announced.
>>345259234
Life is simply unfair.
>>345252590
>>345252738
>saw his mother in mira
>saw his brother in sean
>took on the role of his father without realizing it
Shit's fucked, man.
>>345259234
LIFE IS SIMPLYERIC
>>345259239
Shit, good point.
Maybe Delta sticks around to murder Clone!Carlos off-screen, assuming he doesn't get killed by the real Carlos.
>>345258983
>mfw i always pick the totally sick loop-da-loop first because i know in some timeline i didn't so it's alright
>>345258983
>The true ending just takes place after the coin flip and there's only one Carlos.
>sigma enacts a decades spanning plan where he puts everyone's lives on the line to learn to jump and go back to the past to save the world
>one coin flip invalidates everything and everyone is fine
>>345251479
She did the same kick in VLR.
