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>"Flavor of the month" >Its popularity has persisted
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>"Flavor of the month"
>Its popularity has persisted even after 10 months

List all the times /v/ has been wrong.
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http://steamcharts.com/app/391540
In decline since february. Last month increase is due to it being on sale for two weeks straight. Still on sale now on steam.
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Which game?
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>>345213265
God forbid the sales of an indie game that has sold over THREE MILLION copies eventually slows down.
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>>345212882
What are you talking about? Undertale's been dead for a while now.
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>>345213392
Imagine millions of people enjoying stuff you hate
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I dunno, how many "flavor of the month" games have the fanbase make fan games and autismal cartoon videos in tribute to them?
Furthermore, just about everyone has already bought/pirated and played it by now.
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>>345213501
Well I personally don't hate anything but I'm sure that thought pisses off a whole bunch of angry nerds on /v/.
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>>345213576
>autismal

What the fuck? This isn't even a real word.
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>>345213582
The only one pissed off here seems to be you though.
Not sure who pissed into your cereal.
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>>345213738
Who the hell do you think I am?
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>>345213673
Of course it isn't captain autismo, it's slang, the type we fling at each other like shit around these parts.
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>>345213929
An angry nerd?
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>>345212882
any flavor of the month can stay relevant with enough porn
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>>345213963
It appears you misunderstood the question.
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>>345212882
Nobody within the first month was even calling it flavor of the month, most of the early adopters on /v/ liked the game and there was pretty constructive discussion.

The haters cropped up later on when the fanbase started to spin out of control and the game went viral.
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>>345213963
The angriest gamer you've heard?
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>>345213392
>claims its popularity persisted
>it doesn't
>Well god forbid the sales slows down!
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>>345214296
It's popularity persisted, it's just that sales and discussion slowed down because it's an RPG that takes 6 hours to beat and only has so much to talk about.
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>>345214296
Just because a game is less popular doesn't mean its not popular. In its current state it's still miles above whatever trash you like.
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>>345212882
Whoever drew that shitty cow just flipped a coin on the leg length. Not even pixel art can cover up a poor understanding of perspective.
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So did FNAF
>edgy teens that make this game popular mean it is a good game and we should all play and enjoy it
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>tfw /v/ acts like massive hypocrites regarding this game

Image related.
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>>345214497
That's a dog and it's intentionally deformed because it's the creator's self insert and he hates himself.
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>>345214516
>undertale
>edgy

______lol_____________
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what game
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>>345214562
>calling Neptune a casual game
*facepalm*
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>>345214562
>le v isn't one person hurr durr

>>345214748
Bakugan Battle Brawlers
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>>345214562
>implying you can't fap to Undyne
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>>345214562
Do you really, honestly think that image is convincing?

You should at the very least delete that last line about Mario Maker being a rip off - that part is actually laughable.
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>>345214562
I like all these undertale pictures and fans. They make Dark Souls or sonic fans look normal.

I am so happy I played the game before the autist got at it.
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>>345214840
That game was pretty good, I was surprised at how well it looked on the ds.
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>>345214562
>false-flagging on a malaysian moving picture website's interactive digital experience discussion forum
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>>345214721
>reading comprehension
________lol____
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>>345214859

How exactly is it laughable?
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>>345212882
When /v/ said that Journey was a bad game
When /v/ said that Bayonetta was a good game
When /v/ said that Overwatch would go F2P
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>>345214958
Listen up, motherfucker: Kylo Ren kills Han Solo.
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>>345214903
Most of the autistic Undertale pics come from the haters... but I think they got bored and quit. They've moved on to trying to make /v/ hate YIIK. Which, incidentally, is going to rock.
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>>345214903
It's a shame that the fanbase became as cancerous as it did as fast as it did. Fucking "determination" was everywhere and they were posting it in places even when it didn't make any sense.

I thought FNAF fans was as bad as it could get, but I was so god damn wrong. Undertale blew them out of the water.
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>>345215054
Because you're claiming a company releasing a level editor for their own game series is a "rip-off" of an unauthorized 3rd party romhacking tool.

That's patently ridiculous. You can think it's better, or whatever, but "rip-off" is just laughable.
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>>345215054
Because Lunar Magic is a third party romhacking program and Mario Maker is an official Nintendo licensed game/tool.

Lunar Magic is better at what it does: hacking Super Mario World. But SMM is official, polished, and has higher potential due to not being restricted to SNES hardware.
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>>345215335
>SMM has higher potential
LOL NOPE
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nobody fucking talks about this game anymore
even the porn has slowed down considerably
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>>345214817
>*facepalm*
Go fuck yourself you triple nigger
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>>345215315
>>345215335

Quality-wise, it is a ripoff. Why would you charge 60 bucks for a product that's already free on the internet, and rip out 90% of the features while you're at it?

Think of it like consoles vs PC. Technically they're different in terms of hardware, but consoles remove 90% of features you could have on PC, like customizable tech, but they charge top dollar.
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>>345215612
Well, a) that's not what they did, b) to make money off of it, and c) you have now totally abandoned the actual definition of "rip-off"
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>>345213265
For such a short game length wise, its still doing pretty well
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>>345215842

>that's not what they did

Then where's all the features? Where's my ability to use the keyboard and mouse to make levels? Why can't I use music from Super Mario RPG, or Contra, or obscure JRPGs from the PS2?
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>>345215612
The price is a rip-off but it's not a clone/ripoff of Lunar Magic. Nintendo can do whatever the fuck they want with their IPs.
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>splatoon will sell 300k copies
Loving
Every
Laugh
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>>345214272
The angry Nintendo nerd?
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>>345213392
three millions?
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>>345216158

>Nintendo can do whatever they want
And I can criticize it anyway I want, being a paying customer and all. That's a right you cannot take away.
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>>345212882
FOTM is just a meme. With the exception of nostalgiafagging and multiplayer games like Overwatch very little single player games have lasting appeal without DLC.
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>>345213576
>how many "flavor of the month" games

Pretty much everything the majority of /v/ is obsessed with. So currently overwatch and pokemon go.

So what new game in the next couple months is going to be shitting out tons of cartoon porn? I'm leaning towards ffxv for a while. Not quite as obsessive though 'cause sony. Not sure after that.
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>>345216220
shit wrong image
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>A six hour game made mostly by one person has lasted in popularity almost a year

Yeah. It has long outlasted the "flavor of the month" stigma.
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>>345216096
They didnt put that functionality in, because they started from scratch and created an entirely different product. It didn't get "ripped out" becausr they didnt ever intend to put it in.

If you want to make the argument that it's a worse product, that's reasonable. But saying that it's a rip-off with worse features is disingenuous on several levels. It's a separate thing that you believe to be worse, but it doesnt fit into your weird argument about Undertale.
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>>345214903

>tfw when dark souls, sonic and undertale fan

Just...

Just end me
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>>345216518

It's still a ripoff, whether it fits the exact description or not. Even though Nintendo owned the IP, they didn't come up with the idea for 30 years, and someone beat them to the punch long before.
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>>345216741
Order a Helium tank. Or at least get a chemical castration. Your genes are poison.
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>>345216753
Again, not what rip-off means.

If the Mother team got together and against all odds, made an actual Mother 4, would it be a rip-off of that fan game?

All I am giving you is friendly advice on making your argument sound less spergy
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Undertale faggots really are desperate to feel vindicated on this board. That's some sad Freudian shit right there.
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>>345216741
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>>345217031

>would it be a ripoff

If it had only half the chapters, half the characters, was worse in quality, and they charged 60 bucks, then yes it would be a ripoff.
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>>345217031

Also, you're wrong about the definition of ripoff. It doesn't matter who made the product first.
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Did they ever solve that gaster mystery thing?
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>>345212882
>Its popularity has persisted even after 10 months

The only ones still ''talking'' about it are fat virgins who want to fuck the mess of pixels that the characters from this game are.
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>standalone single player game with an ending and no dlc/mods stops being extremely popular eventually

what about this doesn't make sense exactly?
people talk about this like it means the game isn't good or something.
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>>345213392
>3 million
Source: anon's asshole.
http://steamspy.com/app/391540

1.7 million.
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I want to play it but it looks like shit
And no it's not the pixel graphics, there are many cheap games with pixel graphics that look really pretty
it's the artstyle thats completely disgusting
look at this shit. the dev didnt know if he was making a game inspired by the 8- or 16-bit gen so he threw both of them together with horrible effect
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The game itself is not popular. The community surrounding it is because of it's circlejerk nature.
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>>345214857

I want her to crush my skull with her thunderthighs
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>>345218350
It has its charm but yeah I hate the idea that disliking it means you are graphics whore. The art direction is also mostly shit.
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>>345218350
The art is definitely one of the more obvious examples of Fox not knowing what he's doing.
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>>345212882
>doubting the power of furry autism
One shouldnt do this. Furries are the main catalysts for overusing memes.
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>>345217687

Where the fuck do you think we are?
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>>345218482
>on the right, an released game
>on the left, a concept art
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>>345218482
>>345218350

It was made by one guy who has no artistic skill. What do you expect?

On the other hand, he DOES have musical skill, unlike most other indie game devs, and that more than makes up for the shitty art. Soundtrack > Graphics.
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>>345218350
That's exactly it.

I have no idea why toby decided to make the overworld so ugly compared to the battle sprites.
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>>345218482

>comparing a still-image like it's a full fledged game
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>>345218350
it did feel comfy with the music tho.
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>>345212882
/v/ said PC was dying years ago but mine still works fine
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>>345218737
Fine, have this one
>>345218762
>musical skill
ahahahahhahahhahahhahha
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>>345218623
>you will never live in an internet without furfaggot autists
I just want the memespouting to stop
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>>345218640
In an Undertale thread, AKA, surrounded by fat furshits who have never touched a girl in their life.
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>>345218482
Bring back Wario please. "Shake It" has to be one of the most underrated games in history.
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>>345218792

It's a well-known thing that Toby can't draw. Doesn't make the game less good imo
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>>345218880
but the one on the left actually have more detail.
And what is M4 anyway? Any link?
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>>345218350
someone should do a mod with better overworld graphics
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>>345218998
>a game's sole designer not knowing shit about graphic design doesn't affect the quality of said game whatsoever

Undertale autism, everyone
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>>345218985
Tried to like Shake It but the first world was so tedious and slow. Does it get better?
WL2 and 4 are my favorites, if it means anything.
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>>345218792

That battle sprite is far uglier than the overworld sprite, which is actually pretty cute.
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>>345217275
>Kill la Kill has a fandom
what
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>>345219173

Whatever makes you sleep at night man
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>>345219017
>Left has more detail
Ahahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtQWUF6-Co&hd=1
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>>345218985
I agree, actually. Shake It is one of the best games I've ever played.

>>345219191
It has a LOT of technical depth. I also wouldn't really call it slow... you do some crazy shit later in the game with those speed boosters.
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>>345219271
I'm not the one having trouble sleeping, seeing how desperately you feel the need to rationalize this shit game
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>>345219285
That's one of the most infuriating things about Undertale fans... they have this tendency to absolutely shit on any game that isn't it.

This is why I always say that Undertale fans don't like video games.
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>>345219271
He is 100% right though.
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>>345218880

Are you retarded? Undertale's is by far the most highly regarded video game soundtrack from the past few years.

You being too musically inept to appreciate it doesn't change that.
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>>345219428
Where do I shit on Mother 4?
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>>345219371
>>345219436

:)
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>>345214857
there needs to be like 40x more Undyne porn.
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>>345218880

>right
>generic as fuck, looks like any random indie game
>left
>actually looks interesting

also
>disliking undertale's music

You are actually retarded.
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>>345219371

I'm not the one frustrated with people liking Undertale in an Undertale thread
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>>345219559
Look, I love Undertale and all but that's some bullshit. Right is clearly straight up inspired by Mother 3's style and doesn't really look like anything else, and while I like the sections where you see The Core in the background it's not really interesting.
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>>345219461
>>345219559
>muh pixelshit soundtrack
>it's objectively good, I swear!
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I like Undertale enough to have it on my 3x3. This thread is hilarious.
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>>345219806
fuck off kid
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>>345219880
Don't reply to bait, anon.
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>>345219461
By who? Undertale fans?

Don't make me laugh. You have people defending the art in this very thread.
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>>345219461
>Undertale's is by far the most highly regarded video game soundtrack from the past few years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0
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>>345219461
Name an actually good song outside the "boss fights" and Hotlands
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>>345219832
>that pic
I bet that guy laughs at Tumblr being *triggered* by everything, without seeing his hypocrisy
/V/ in general is offended more often than tumblr
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>>345219461
Normally people out themselves as shitters through a sequence of posts but it only took you one!
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>>345220109
The Ruins
Papyrus' theme when him and Sans are talking, not his battle music
This track, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx55-ngn8n0, which plays during Mettaton's cooking show
The sound test music for each season
E T C

You can stop embarrassing yourself anytime.
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>>345220109

the core

:^)

but for real that one section with the jetpack was pretty tight imo, it was catchy and wasn't trying to be in your face
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Rocket League was also considered to be a FOTM game here.
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>>345220109
literally all of them
just because you have shit taste doesn't mean they're bad :^)
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>>345219954
>>345219806

>the soundtrack isn't actually good!
>it only has 18 MILLION VIEWS on Youtube because of... rabid Undertale fans who have never heard of other music?
>all the most famous internet musicians and remixers only made tribute albums because... uh...

Thanks for proving you have no idea what you're talking about. You probably don't even listen to video game music or know anything about the scene. Enjoy your godawful rap and pop music since it's all you're capable of processing.
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>>345220106

>implying that track isn't extremely overated as well
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>>345220313
I said actually good not songs that you like
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literally every new game is a FOTM here
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>>345220457
>muh youtube views

loud laughter
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>>345220106

I didn't say "most highly memed soundtrack on /v/", retard.

Rising's soundtrack isn't even actually good outside of the context of the game and the meme potential.
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>>345219832
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>>345220457
>using YouTube views as an indicator for quality
tippity toppity kek
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>>345220601
>>345220525
Shift the goalposts some more, you'll be in another fucking field AKA out of this thread.
Fuck off.
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>>345220457
>godawful rap and pop music
wow calm down
you can like different genres at the same time, no genre is better than the other
take your musical elitism elsewhere, this board is for video game elitism
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>>345220457
Go back to Tumblr.

A big part of the Undertale community is clicking on anything with Undertale on it. I've seen channels that average about 6,000 views get 200,000 for Undertale related content.

It has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself, but just the fact that fans click on Undertale related content because they are part of a cult.
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>>345220457
>Enjoy your godawful rap and pop music since it's all you're capable of processing.
>he says while unironically citing YouTube his and remixes from famous musicians as a metric of quality

Undertale autism, everyone
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>>345220457
Ironic that the rap and pop that you're hating on has at least ten times the views that Undertale's soundtrack. By your logic that shit should be off the chain.
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>>345220604
>Undertale's soundtrack isn't even actually good outside of the context of the game and the meme potential.
ftfy
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>>345220676
>>345220601

Try to refute my arguments next time. I'm waiting. Or you can just admit you have no argument other than
"l...lol no u"
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>>345220604
Stay salty my friend.
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>>345220665
Undertale is the New Game You Have To Like Or You Don’t Get It. These sanctified vessels are selected by an organization that is either lofty or subterranean, I haven’t decided, and one of the cool things about being old is that I don’t care.

These hyper-earnest teens I got on my block are way into this stuff. I’m glad that someone is teaching them new words. But I can sense a kind of invisible maze go up when they start this conversation - they want to know if I can be trusted. If I’m like the others. They want to know if they can tell me the secret, and they will, provided I already know it. So I lied. I lied and lied and lied.

There is a popular mode now I have taken to calling Double Reverse Irony, where things are real but not real but no they’re actually real, that is just one step beyond where I’m interested. My policy when the next generation “does them” is informed by 2pac’s I Ain’t Mad At Cha, and I only get mad when people transform works into litmus tests. In the case of Undertale, I can’t abstract it enough to even look at it: I can’t hold it far enough away. The thing it is dismantling is too close to me.
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>>345220457

>godawful rap and pop music

Just curious, have you listened to either of these genres outside of the videos that garner 10+ million views?
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>>345220913
see >>345220787
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Undertale is the New Game You Have To Like Or You Don’t Get It. These sanctified vessels are selected by an organization that is either lofty or subterranean, I haven’t decided, and one of the cool things about being old is that I don’t care.

These hyper-earnest teens I got on my block are way into this stuff. I’m glad that someone is teaching them new words. But I can sense a kind of invisible maze go up when they start this conversation - they want to know if I can be trusted. If I’m like the others. They want to know if they can tell me the secret, and they will, provided I already know it. So I lied. I lied and lied and lied.

There is a popular mode now I have taken to calling Double Reverse Irony, where things are real but not real but no they’re actually real, that is just one step beyond where I’m interested. My policy when the next generation “does them” is informed by 2pac’s I Ain’t Mad At Cha, and I only get mad when people transform works into litmus tests. In the case of Undertale, I can’t abstract it enough to even look at it: I can’t hold it far enough away. The thing it is dismantling is too close to me.

Parody can be revelatory of weakness in the subject, but it can also reveal strength; it can reveal what’s left after the softest parts are washed away. Even when done in love, it has a caustic quality. An extended look at metals extraction probably isn’t appropriate for this paragraph, but I’m thinking about gold cyanidation and toxicity. The game is gleeful in its cannibalism of the medium, there’s blood all over its face but it’s smiling. It’s intimate with the tropes it has on display, and at this precise moment in time I’m discomfited by what it does with that familiarity.
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>>345220890
It really does baffle me how hard Undertale fans try to dismiss other great games.

Remember when Anthony Burch said Undertale was the 'Good' Earthbound? That's the kind of person we are dealing with here.

MGR's soundtrack is better. Tropical Freeze's soundtrack is better. What about Undertale's soundtrack makes it so good, exactly?

Oh, I forgot. Because it's in a meme game.
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It is insufficiently reverent, and does not perform the proper obeisances. Others like it for precisely these reasons. I’m delighted by the iconoclasm intellectually and repulsed by it viscerally; if nothing else, it’s providing an intense psychological workout.
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>>345221093
>praise MGR
>claim just after that Undertale is just a meme game
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>>345213673
Its the combination of abismal and autism used to convey a great quantity of autism.
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>>345221093

How are MGR or Tropical Freeze any better? They both rely too much on memes, just as bad as Undertale.

>le nanomachines XD
>expand dong! XD

Memes are a cancer upon all three.
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>>345221093
I'm pretty sure it's just shitposters
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>>345220797
>>345220787
>>345220781
>>345220676
>>345220601

>this much desperation from autistic retards
>moving the goalposts
>"y...youtube hits and tributes from dozens of musicians don't mean the music is highly regarded!!!!"

If you were breathing from your mouth a little less you would have noticed I never even said the music was good, I said it was the most highly regarded video game soundtrack from the past few years. What is a metric of regard if not extreme popularity?

This is how retarded you are.
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>>345220712
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>>345212882
ITT: we trigger /v/
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>>345221328
>Tropical freeze
>memes
Name one single meme that came out because of that game

fag
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>>345212882
what game OP? I don't even know what you're talking about, sign that you're wrong lel.
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>>345212882
Its still just a game for children and the autistic
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>>345221361
>shitting on a retarded point that you made is somehow moving the goalposts

Take your pseud argumentation tactics that you don't understand back to your tumblr page please. You clearly can't handle 4chan seeing as how you've got a whole thread thinking you're a fucking moron as of right now.
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>>345221328
All DK-associated memes had been around for literal years before Tropical Freeze was released. Lurk moar.
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>>345221361
Undertale's 'popularity' has nothing to do with it's quality as a game. Which is why we dismiss it here.
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>>345221361
Highly regarded typically doesn't mean it isn't good. Unless its opposite day, maybe
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And the way you look tonight

Yes, you're lovely
With your smile so warm
And your cheeks so soft
There is nothing for me but to love you
And the way you look tonight

With each word your tenderness grows
Tearing my fear apart
And that laugh wrinkles your nose
Touches my foolish heart

Lovely, never, never change
Keep that breathless charm
Won't you please arrange it?
'Cause I love you
Just the way you look tonight

And that laugh wrinkles your nose
It touches my foolish heart
Lovely, don't you ever change
Keep that breathless charm
Won't you please arrange it?
'Cause I love you
Just the way you look tonight

Mm, mm
Just the way you look to-night
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>>345212882
ive never played undertale and dont know much about it but i like the woofy little dog song :))
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>>345221627
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>>345212882
Funny because I havent heard about it in months.
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>>345221593

It propagated the meme though, which is why people hate Undertale.
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>>345221705
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Honestly I don't get why Undertale is so popular, it's a great game yeah, but IJI did pretty much everything Undertale did but better.
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>>345218482
You realize the picture on the left is LITERALLY fanart and not an actual game, right?
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>>345221540

>Get completely BTFO by rational arguments
>"You just don't understand how arguments work here!"

I've been on 4chan since before you discovered the internet by playing with your dad's laptop. All your "arguments" are strawmen and fallacies. Kill yourself.
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>>345221889
Furries. Not even kidding since most of the people who funded the kickstarter were Furfaggots
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>>345221593
and?
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>>345218880
>Left
Actually released, has its own identity
>Right
Never ever going to be released, stole entire identity and art style off of an existing franchise it didn't make but didn't hesitate to steal the name of.
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>>345221889
An extremely vocal and dedicated minority.
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>>345212882

>Its popularity has persisted even after 10 months

uh no it hasn't

this game used to have 10 threads on /v/ every day now its lucky to get 1 a week but of course there are still people who are dangerously obsessive about it to the point where you have to seriously question their mental health

so in other words its literally Katawa Shoujo 2.0
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>>345222381
Undertale is Tumblr not reddit
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>>345222373
At least Katawa Shoujo had cute girls.
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>>345219247
are you retarded for real
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>>345222534
Maybe he just doesn't get out much.
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Undertale is one of the most entertaining things to come out in the past few years.

Fun concept, fun characters, some great fights in genocide, excellent soundtrack, a gigantic salt mine in /v/ threads and tons of autism to point and laugh at. All around a jolly old time.

Never change /v/.
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>>345222381
>>345222495
>Hey that was a pretty cool game
>Wait...
>TUMBLR LIKES IT
>WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GAME
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>>345222789
Love the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXg35Kv7oyw
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there are no pieces of media that are objectively good or bad
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>>345212882
i haven't played it yet, but i probably will eventually because of the popularity/success.
it looks like just walking around and selecting dialogue choices and then some mini games.
is it better than that? from the outside looking in, it just seems like all the praise comes from the "feels" made by the story, and that's not really my thing.
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>>345223481

There are barely any dialogue choices and the gameplay is a bullet hell/JRPG hybrid.

So, you are completely off the mark.
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>>345223481
It's a game where you dont have to kill anything, and where the best ending is gotten via surviving bullet hell segments.

Feeling for the NPC's is a big part of it though. If you cant have empathy for Goat Mom or Papyrus, well most of the fun is gone since they are big parts of the game. Saying "Oh Papyrus, you so silly" is a big part of the game.

So if you dont get attached quickly and dont like the characters, then you might not like it.

The soundtrack is worth it though.
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>>345223481
>it looks like just walking around and selecting dialogue choices and then some mini games.
yep, that's definitely an RPG anon
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>>345223927
It's not really a RPG though. Well not in the normal sense. I suppose the game is about being a RPG.
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>>345212882
>/v/ hates anything that is popular

Is there an end to this meme?
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>>345221889
Remar himself has said that the game badly lacks berserk (="genocide") modifiers. The only thing that changes is Iji's attitude.
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>>345218350
I know the guy who did the overworld graphics for the later part of the game and will say that Toby actually didn't tell him anything about how Hotland would be floating.

From what I heard it was just "can you make a gravel/rocky path" and he was surprised by how it got used too. He started to redo it but was told to focus on other things.

Just sayin
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>>345212882
Undertale was really only acceptable material on /v/ for about a month. I'd say it still counts.

Now it's all just shitposting, like this entire thread.
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>>345221889
It was released during a time where Steam wasn't the gatekeeper of successful indie game.
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>>345225928
You keep using the word shitposting, I dont think you know what it means.
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>>345221889
Iji is too hard for most tumblr kids, and it doesn't lend itself well to Youtube playthroughs.

I've been recommending it to everyone who's enjoyed Undertale.
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>>345212882
But it is slowly losing popularity. One of the easiest litmus tests for games is the amount of porn being made. When the game was new porn was abundant and made at steady pace. Right now, it's slowly but surely grinding to a halt.
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>>345212882
How can one game fail so spectacularly, OP?
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>>345226475
But Sans is a harder fight than all of the non-optional bosses in IJI
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>>345226767
Competitive dudebro game vs a 7 hours singleplayer Tumblr RPG

Gee I wonder why.
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>>345226767
I thought those evil /v/ shitposters were wrong, why'd you lie to me OP?
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>>345227395
Why did Undertale fail to be anything other than a FOTM meme game despite the"GOTY of all time" meme being forced?
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>>345227395
>>345226767

Fifa and Call of Duty are the top selling video games every year.

Your fucking point?

Rocket League is literally a casual game with the same audience as those two games.
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Is LISA the Anti-Undertale?
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>>345226767
>>345227395
>>345227863
Can you at least try to prove your point by comparing the singleplayer Undertale to a different singleplayer game?
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>>345225201
Pokémon Go. /v/ can't hop on its dick fast enough.
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>>345227863
Why, OP?
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>>345226767

>dis nigga reaching so hard
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>>345228161
LISA is the proto-Undertale.
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>>345228161

No, it's the exact same thing as Undertale because of it's disgusting over-reliance on story. Video games need to stop being hollywood cinematic experiences and start putting more gameplay into their games.

My general rule of thumb is this: does half the game revolve around reading text and watching cinematics? It's garbage, throw it away.
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>>345228249
>The game awards
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>>345228347
Your general thumb rule is to put it up your arse? Suits you.
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>>345212882
HARDMODE WHEN!!!!!!
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>>345214562
>not a waifufag
>only like furries if they have actual character, unlike undertale
>hate fourth-wall breaking in general. it's way too forced and has never been done well
>only hate games ripping off other games if it's incredibly blatant and shameless with it and adds almost nothing new to it to, like undertale
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>>345228249
>>345227863

Point at him! Point at him and laugh!
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>>345228685
Never ever

Which makes me salty since Flowey and Asriel need a retooling difficulty-wise
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>>345228627

>he wants video games to be unchallenging cinematic hallway simulators

I think you missed neogaf by a few miles, friend.
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>>345228347

>t. illiterate ADHD kid
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>>345212882
The only reason why I care about this game is because of Muffet, Undyne, and Toriel. Everyone else can go fuck themselves.
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>>345228760

>furries
>having actual character

Don't delude yourself, kid. That's just you wanting to fap to them, nothing more. It's a clever ruse to make them seem deep.
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>>345227963
>Hmph, those simple-minded plebs just can't understand high art like Undertale, that's why it sold less. I must leave now, I have more important matters on Tumblr to attend to.
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>>345229030

t. fan of Uncharted, TLOU, Halo, and other """games"""

Some of us want gameplay please.
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>>345217335
No it wouldn't you faggot. Being a rip off has nothing to do with quality or price (in the context of your argument) Please die.
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>>345229002
we can have both
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>>345229212
But I thought the focus of Halo was gameplay?

Unless they changed it after Reach
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>>345229247
see>>345217492

The english language, and one of the most reputable dictionaries in existence, says otherwise.
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>>345218482
Fuck you buddy, I thought someone had remade wario land 3. You are a bad person for tricking me.
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>>345229605

Nah, it became cinematic like every other Call of Duty clone.
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>>345219461
Ar Nosurge has a better soundtrack and came out in 2014. Nier is older but again has a (much) better soundtrack.
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>>345229115
b-but dust an elysian tail did it well...

i think... haven't played the game in like 3 years
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>>345229883
nobody care about those weebshit.
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>>345221090
I like the way Tycho writes, but this doesn't seem to convey a coherent thought.
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>>345230005

>furbait literally ripped from Deviantart

Please tell me you're joking.
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>>345229605
Don't reply to him, it's that one retarded kid that calls Bayonetta 2 a movie-game because it has cutscenes.
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>>345230024
Nobody cares about furshit either so I guess we're even. :^)
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>>345230128
>Nobody cares about furshit
ho ok
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>>345230108

Bayonetta a movie? Well, I haven't seen it in a while. How much story does it have, like 10-15 minutes? That's not bad.

I mean, as long as it's not 2+hours or something.
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>>345230102
oh... so it wasn't really done well and that was just the first thing that came to my mind when it came to furfag characters.
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>>345229637
In this image of yours
>>345214562
its basically stating that Mario Maker stole from Lunar Magic, when Lunar Magic is based off of one of Nintendo's IPs. So if anything, <Lunar Magic is ripping off Mario. You could say, but Nintendo is ripping off level editors! Lunar Magic did not invent level editors and just because Nintendo decided to make one doesn't mean its a ripoff of lunar magic.
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>>345214562
Neptunia games aren't casual at all. They're shit, but they aren't casual.
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>>345230505

Lunar Magic came up with the idea of a level editor for Mario first, whereas Nintendo never offered it in 30+ years. And they were legally within their rights, as the maker never charged money for it, never ran ads on his site, and didn't even take donations. Legally he's completely covered.

The dictionary definition, which is objectively right, still stands.
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>>345215612
>quality-wise it's a ripoff.
wtf does this even mean.
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>>345230652

Watching cutscenes of the little girls eating sushi and trying on outfits isn't that hard, friend.
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>>345230918
The actual game still requires more thinking than Undertale.
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>>345231040

To qualify as a game, you need more gameplay than story. Neither counts in this case.
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>>345230695
Not in the context of that image it isn't. Are you saying that if something is done, it can't be done again without being a ripoff? Lunar Magic's and Mario Maker's interface are very different. If there was a "Zelda Maker" that was made 15 years ago, and Nintendo made one next year, would that be a rip off of that Zelda Maker? Lunar Magic doesn't own the concept of level editors.
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>>345229212

That's funny, those games all have way too little plot and writing to be interesting, especially amid generic gameplay.

Try Zero Escape, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.
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>>345231386

>Are you saying that if something is done, it can't be done again without being a ripoff?
If they're both quality titles, then they wouldn't be ripoffs. But charging 60 bucks for a barebones piece of crap that was already done better, for free, well over a decade ago? Screams ripoff to me.

>if there was a "Zelda Maker" that was made 15 years ago, and Nintendo made one next year, would that be a rip off of that Zelda Maker?
We already have a zelda maker, and a metroid maker, in progress. If Nintendo wants to make their own, they should at least be as high in quality. If they can offer at least something worthwhile that makes them worth their purchase, then they wouldn't be such ripoffs.
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>>345215054
The comparisons between Lunar Magic and Mario Maker are all really tiring, to me. It's not like adding assets is a wholly difficult experience, but a lot of the things you can do (sometimes using Lunar Magic as a vector) have nothing to do with features or functionality contained within LM itself - most of it is work related to direct hex editing.

Creating objects or combinations of objects that behave in ways different to their source material is technically more limited in SMM due to you only having so many toys to play with, but so many things that would require you to dig into ASM can be done by just putting two objects together in SMM. It's about ease of use, and even though this image lauds KB+M as the superior control scheme, Lunar Magic will generally take longer to navigate through due to the interface generally being the bare minimum of user-friendly. Even simple shit like adjusting block size will take longer.
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>>345214562
>The only defense for your meme game is m-muh hypocrisy

Your cancer is amusing anon.
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>>345231408

Are any of those games supposed to be better?

>Zero escape
generic, boring protagonists amidst sloppy newgrounds-tier minigames. No thought put into any of it.

>Final Fantasy
10+ hours of cutscenes amidst unlikable stereotypical characters. And I say this as a person who's beat FF4, 5, 6, 7, and 10 at least twice over. I can't ever go back to them because of how terribly paced they are.

>Metal Gear
>the series that set the guiness world record for "longest cutscene in a video game"

Nah.
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>>345231859

>it's not user friendly, that makes it bad

Nah. It prevents children from playing the game, thus keeping it from being flooded with terrible levels. Think of Super Mario Maker as the Steam Greenlight of level editors.
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>>345212882
>in the past five years we've seen the rise of at least 3 autistic game fanbases
jesus did this shit happen as often as it did before 2010?
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>>345232381

>hates undertale for not being video gamey enough
>wants video games to have 8+ hours of cutscenes

Lookking awful hypocritical right now.
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>>345219806
>pixelshit
>music

?????
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>>345232680
i like undertale
you are pure cancer
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>>345231676
Again quality has nothing to do with what that image is implying.


>>345232093
Not beiong user friendly isn't a plus, its one of mario maker's main draws. You literally just drag and drop shit. It being easy to do along with the Mario Paint interface is what makes it fun. Should kids not be able to make their own mario levels?
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>>345227863
>>345227395
>>345226767
>how did a game with a big-ass marketing budget and huge staying power due to being multiplayer with multiple bundle releases end up selling more copies than a tiny-ass single-player RPG with almost no budget whatsoever??????????
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