Cancer the hero
Stop whining, he's the perfect counter to ALL of the most annoying-as-fuck heroes (Widow, Genji, Tracer, Lucio)
>>345183316
t. 150 Hours in Genji
>>345183316
Here's a thought, Shoot him
>>345183384
He shouldn't be able to one shot his counter reaper with a chain grab
>>345183384
>he's the perfect counter to ALL of the most annoying-as-fuck heroes (Widow, Genji, Tracer, Lucio)
You mean the heroes that actually take some skill?
This fuck can hook you through walls and doesn't even have to be aiming at you for it to hit
Don't even get me started on his bullshit shotgun
>>345183316
Just play McCree/Reaper you fucking noob
>>345183316
>Reinhardt beat Roadhog by decision
>Reinhardt got busted for a banned substance
Who would have won?
>>345183316
Roadhog is my main nigga but he gives free ult charge to so many characters and he has no mobility abilities.
>>345183487
Reaper with full HP can survive a Roadhog chain/meatshot/melee combo with 10 HP to spare and wraith away to heal up, tho
>>345183487
If you lose to RH as Reaper its %100 your fault.
>>345183316
Excuse me?
>>345183530
clearly someone dosnt understand how the game mechanics work
>>345183316
He's in the game for a reason: as a counter-measure to any potentially imbalanced ultimate abilities. If somebody has one, you can just run a Roadhog and hook them out of it.
He also punishes people who try to play solo by pulling them out and making it 4v5.
>>345183487
He usually can't, unless he gets a godly spread. Not his fault you'll go after him without your shift
>>345183530
They're going to fix hitboxes in the next patch, again stop whining.
Also
>muh SKILL
is not an argument for your "main" to have no actual counter
>>345183530
>This fuck can hook you through walls
This will no longer be a problem after the patch. The projectile hitbox nerf will affect his hooks.
>>345183487
bull shit I had times where I was at full hp and the chain combo fucked me up
>>345183584
>he has no mobility abilities.
Doesn't matter when he has the highest hp pool and can heal 50% of it
>>345183635
>If somebody has one, you can just run a Roadhog and hook them out of it.
Not if you have a good zarya
>>345183594
if you actually play against high rating roadhogs they can instantly kill reaper every time with their combo. If he misses his hook he can right click reaper for an instakill.
>>345183530
I hate roadhogg but why not complain that some other ults ignore height or go through walls themselves?
If he is so good and takes so little skill, why don't you just play him instead if Genji and win all your games? I mean, if you are so high skilled you can main Genji, then Hog should be a piece of cake
>>345183316
>Literally every single Overwatch character has had threads in the past month whining about how broken they are
Why are all the people who play this game such fucking crybabies? Do you get killed twice by someone and come on /v/ to bitch about how overpowered their character is? They can't all be overpowered, maybe you're just trash. Try getting good instead of crying for a nerf.
>>345183316
after the nerf hes easy to handle
lowered rate of fire and the chain hitbox seems smaller
all his ult does is push people away usually
all he has going for him now is his estus flask
>>345183771
literally if the roadhog is any good he will insta kill reaper everytime from full hp. stop spreading bullshit
>>345183316
McCree 2.0 needs to be removed from the game. So does McCree 1.0 and Sniper McCree 3.0 with the sleep rifle. Blizzard is retarded and catering to physically handicapped people with cerebral palsy with this hard cc in a shooter game.
>>345183762
zarya cant even touch roadhog, zarya is a piece of shit
i have NEVER died to a zarya in over 200 hours
>Cancer the game
>>345183671
Fixing hitboxes doesn't fix favor-the-shooter. He can still lag-hook you behind walls if he has a shit connection.
Honestly I do think he's badly designed
A character with as much health as him should not also have one of if not the highest damage close range combos in the game, to make matters worse he can force characters into close range without putting himself at risk, unlike virtually every other close range oriented character in the game, who usually also have less than half the health he does
>>345183896
was talking about how her shield negates hog's hook to stop reaper or pharah ults. Once that shield is up he can't do shit
>Hitbox fix direct hook nerf
>Ultimate is spent 45% faster
>Ana Ult makes Reino and Zarya murder machines
Don't worry you will see a lot less Road Hogs.
>>345183875
>not anticipating Roadhog's chain and wraithing a split second before it hits you
>not using the speed boost to close the distance and then kill him with two blasts to his fat piggy head
git
gud
>ROADREIGHTGE
What did he mean by this?
>>345183975
just wait 2 seconds then hook
>>345184034
Yeah like you're going to hook reaper after that point when he kills your team
>>345184005
>not anticipating Roadhog's chain and wraithing a split second before it hits you
This shit does not work because of the game's shitty netcode. Seriously I am not being salty here relying on reaction plays like that in overwatch is not consistent and will get you fucked as much as it works.
>>345184078
>>345184034
especially when you're going to have to deal with this shit now
>>345184156
n-nani?!
>>345183975
>Once that shield is up he can't do shit
Except wait 6 seconds for his hook while Zarya waits 10 secs for her shield?
Or just wait 2 secs for her shield to go down?
>>345183594
this isnt actually true
Roadhog is fine IMO, but if reaper gets hooked, and roadhog is a good roadhog, he can 100 to 0 you without being able to react (as in even if wraith form is up and you spam it, he will kill you)
>>345184005
>not anticipating Roadhog's chain and wraithing a split second before it hits you
what is wrong with you? I didnt say that reaper cannot kill roadhog by shifting as he ults. This game has a low tick rate that favours the attackers btw.
>not using the speed boost to close the distance and then kill him with two blasts to his fat piggy head
the speed boost is barely a boost. he can still hook the reaper at close distance and instakill if he is good enough or get a right click one shot if he is good enough.
What is your rating?
>>345184156
What the fuck is this shit?
>>345184290
He will be dead by the time the shield falls off reaper. Pharah it's possible but reaper will fucking kill him
>>345184368
New character Ana's ult makes you go sanic fast and do extra damage for 8 seconds
Roadhog is literally the lowest skill character in the game by a huge margin and that is a fucking achievement in overwatch
>>345184369
>He will be dead by the time the shield falls off reaper.
Roadhog will outdamage that shield and Reapers hp
>>345184368
Ana Ult
Lucio Speed Boost
Reaper Ult
Same combo with McCree, too. He can High Noon 100 yards in 5 seconds.
I usually agree to the fact that everyone bitches about every character that they don't usually play argument but Roadhog is way too powerful in comparison to most other heroes and I'd say his healing ability shouldn't be as instant as it is, also when I play against a hog that's killing my entire team I usually just go rein and keep him away from the rest of my teammates while they take care of the objective/other enemies
>>345184368
Ana's ult makes it to where she increases a character's damage by 2.5 times, increase damage resistance by 65% and increases movement speed by I don't know how much for six seconds and it stacks with mercy damage buff and lucio's speed. This allows reaper to do this shit
>>345184361
If you're constantly being one shot by his right click, why don't you either get closer or further away from him?
>>345184442
Wait they still haven't changed it but deemed a 50 beam is too much?
>>345184579
mercy's 50% beam is a constant while ana's is an ult.
Mercy's beam made reaper one shot all tanks but roadhog and mcree one shot anyone with 200 hp or below. It was broken
>>345184551
>If you're constantly being one shot by his right click
I never said he is constantly getting 1 shot by his right click. its more about dying randomly by it instantly as 250 hp.
>why don't you either get closer or further away from him?
as reaper you have to get close to kill retard
>>345183896
Are you stupid? zarya shits all over Roadhog
>>345184732
His right click only does 50 dmg before it spreads out, so it can't one shot.
>>345183316
Sorry zarya is the broken tank right now
>>345184513
This is going to make Phara obsolete. Phara's trade for standing still was she could move her death blasts around the field at whatever speed, but she had to stay still and in sight. Now Reaper, can clear the field and he doesn't even have to remain still.
>rmb does the same damage as his lmb but just has more range
>>345183671
They are only fixing the hitboxes for hanzo
>>345184818
yes it can if you the whole ball hits directly
>>345184863
It only does the same damage if it detonates.
>>345184818
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4a7v0j/roadhog_right_click_vs_left_click/
>>345184965
No, it can't. Play the hero before you shitpost. His left click is the high damage, high spread shotgun that isn't very effective past what, 4-5 meters? His right click shoots a ball that, before it spreads out after probably 4-5 meters, does only 50 dmg if it hits. Once it spreads then it acts like his regular fire, so if the Hog has their spacing correct it can do high dmg at that very specific distance. Past that distance it's only good for finishing off Lucios
>>345185151
So exactly what I said
>>345183316
I'm actually garbage with him. 4 shots before he has to reload, and very slow rate of fire make it almost impossible to hit evasive heroes of any kind. He HAS to hook them, and if the hooks doesn't one shot them, good fucking luck killing them.
>>345183316
>hook will instantly kill basically any non-tank from full HP, no headshot required
>way too much damage output at medium range, for a TANK
>most health in the game
>can literally heal half his health with no strings attached
why the fuck do people think he's balanced again?
>>345184895
No its all projectiles.
>>345184782
wrong
i literally piss in every zarya i see, all you have to do is bait her shield, wait a second, hook and then instantly win
>>345185289
>so it cant 1 shot
it can
>>345185318
Play him and 70% of your games if he's broken
>>345184782
The fuck she does. She CANT kill a roadhog unless that roadhog is dumb enough to give her full charge, and even then, she dies in two shots, whereas she has to keep the beam on him for about 15 seconds, which isn't going to happen before he gets two shots.
The most pointless character IMO is widow maker. She sucks ass. Her powers suck, her ultimate is useless, and her sniping sucks.
>>345183316
Mad Pharah I see
>tfw JUSTICE RAI- UGH!
>>345185415
AFTER it explodes it can, I specifically said "before if spreads out." If you are right where it explodes, it can easily one shot you, which is why you shouldn't be that distance away from him if this is becoming a problem for you
>>345185415
The damage is insane if you hit square on at the sweet spot. Hard to do though.
>>345185462
only if you're bad
>>345183316
I called this shit weeks ago
Up to a 3 second stun that MOVES YOU OUT OF POSITION into a one or two hit combo is hilariously broken, considering mccree did the exact same shit but his stun only lasted half a second, and they nerfed him instantly.
Funny how it took you plebs this long to catch up.
>>345183316
he can't approach a team with a zenyatta sitting in the back
>>345185561
>His right click only does 50 dmg before it spreads out, so it can't one shot.
want to reread what you said? you said his right click can't one shot. You specifically said that his right click does not one shot.
>>345185610
Except this is a skill shot, not an aoe, and he won't kill anything over 200 health.
>>345183316
He has his limitations like his shot count.
But I have noticed he can pretty much be used as a damage class making him both a good offensive and defensive tank where say D Va. is mostly offensive and has some real flaws and Rienhart is largely defensive.
The games balance is honestly not bad considering its fairly new and has a fuckton of characters. But I do find it odd I've seen him used pretty much as a dps when others were tanking.
>>345185716
>he can't approach a team with a zenyatta sitting in the back
He doesn't need to go in when he can fucking hook you to him
>>345185574
What is the fucking point of her rope and mine? It's retarded. And the fact that you have to charge her sniper makes it dumb as fuck. She's fucking garbage. Hanzo is better.
Her ult should have made her invisible and her powers should have been acrobatics and smoke grenades/poison grenades.
>>345185803
this has to be bait
>>345183896
>zarya is a piece of shit
Spot the shitter
>>345185829
Found the bad kid. Get your BK ass outta here
>Zarya will never hug you like big fluffy grizzly bear
Kill me
>>345185779
>Except this is a skill shot, not an aoe, and he won't kill anything over 200 health.
Roadhog has a huge hitbox that goes through walls and has insane range. The combo does 300-500 dmg if done properly.
>>345183671
I heard his hook uses hitscan, doesn't count as projectile. Explains the bs hooks be can get
>>345186029
No it doesn't. The ONLY way it will do over 230ish reliably is if he lands an RMB before the hook, which will never be reliable.
And even the 230ish isn't reliable on small targets.
>>345184156
H-HE'S FAST
They should keep the hook mechanic the same but have it so that if you shoot his hook arm, you can block the hook and cancel it.
This way it's possible to prevent it but only if you aren't shit.
>Freeze Roadhog as Mei
>Shoot him in the head with an icicle; he's left on ~50%HP
>unfreezes before I can land a second headshot
>grabs me with his chain and meatshots me
>either I die instantly, because my HP wasn't topped off; I freeze myself (during which he's free to huff his instant +300HP orange drank) and die when I unfreeze, or I can block him with an icewall which he sidesteps and kills me with his altfire
If the game didn't favour the shooter with a bullshit low tic rate it wouldn't be so bad, but getting grabbed from around corners or while behind cover is infuriating.
>>345183316
A lot of people underestimate how much of a penalty roadhog is in terms of easily charging enemy ults. Smart players can basically spam their ults against a team with a roadhog.
>>345183316
Whenever I play him there's always a fucking Zarya who shields her team mates the frame I hook them.
>>345184863
It does almost no damage if the ball hits, and is useless at long range. It does MORE than his LMB at perfect range where it detonates right before hitting the target and all the bits go in.
>>345185754
Okay, so when you have two ideas joined by a comma and no conjunctions, it is a safe bet tod assume one is a dependent clause. The cool thing about dependent clauses is that they can continue an idea present in an independent clause without completely restating it. Example: "His right click only does 50 dmg before it spreads out, so it can't one shot." Here we have two ideas, one about the pre-spread damage of the right click, and one about its ability to one shot. If these ideas were separated by a comma and without "so," then we could assume the right click can never one shot, but because of these two modifiers we must take the previous clause into context. Not only does the previous clause tell us what "it" refers to, but it also tells us that "it" is being modified by, before it spreads.
>>345186140
you're wrong if he hits the shotgun so all the shots hit at the body it does 300 and it can do more with headshots. Go to the practice range.
>>345185318
>most health in the game
This isn't nearly as beneficial as you think. If you played roadhog you would know that 600hp can be eaten through in seconds when your hitbox is the size of an 18-wheeler and you have no movement options whatsoever. Your "no strings attached heal" will just delay the inevitable and give the other team more ult if you use it improperly. He's a fairly balanced character, especially when those hitboxes are going to be patched.
>>345186354
I just googled it and the bots have 200 hp, but trust me you can one shot a reaper before he can wraith away with full hp with a melee
>>345183556
wat
ITT: Reaperbabbies going full bitchmode because their literally no skill character gets rightfully shat on for being a no skill shitheel.
you fuckers are literally the dumbest shit, holy hell.
>>345186354
You can LITERALLY google its damage. It does UP TO 9 damage per pellet and has 25 pellets. It does a maximum of 225 damage without headshots, and if you GO for headshots, you are never going to hit with all the pellats. The only character you can do over 200ish damage per shot against is DVA or another Roadhog. Every other character is too small or has a hitbox where aiming for the head will cause pellets to miss. You will never kill, say, a reaper, in a single combo barring ungodly luck. Their hitbox is too small and you will miss 5+ pellets at least, and they have 250 health so you need literally perfect conditions to even have a chance.
Nerf him in some way but let me hook through walls with the guy.
>>345186586
reaper is the only counter to roadhog and from your statement you prove he has no counters
OP the faggot
>>345186680
what is mccree, he shits all over roadhog all day erry day with his high noon faggotry.
eat a fucking dick reaperbabby, your no skill super special snowflake is gay and deserves the shitting it gets for your lack of skill.
>>345186680
McREEE shits on roadhog if Cowboy sees him first. His huge ass head hitbox lets him pop Roadhogs fat ass
Ana is such a shit hero outside of her ult. Shes litterally one of those moba heroes that are only useable in team fights for their god tier ult combo.sleeping people and tea-bagging them is really fun
Who's the top 5 most cancerous Overwatch toon?
>>345186783
Her sleep dart is amazing. Her grenade is incredibly. Her primary weapon is shit, but all her abilities are great.
>fatass fuck tank that can't move waddles his fat fuck ass down the fucking path
>tries to get close enough to hook me
>headshot him with literally anyone
>he tries to waddle away
>kill him
How bad are you fucking guys? I mean shit, I knew /v/ was shit at video games, but I never knew it would be this fucking garbage at overwatch.
>>345186787
Mei, Mercy, Tracer, Genji and probably Bastion, all for different reasons. I hate seeing any of them in a game.
>>345186859
as a roadhogfag i can tell you the average /v/fag sucks absolute donkey shit as this thread as proven, holy hell.
>>345186680
>reaper is the only counter to road hog
But that's just false
Pharrah can keep him at range and easily direct hit
Soldier can keep him at range and easily helix
A tracer can 1 v 1 if she has her e
A junkrat can just be himself
A widow can also stay outside hook range and damage him easily
A Zayra can not be shit and get 50 charge for a fairly quick kill
And a Zen can discord to help the team take him out
>>345186781
>>345186746
mcree doesnt shit on roadhog; he is decent against him but now as good as reaper. He will be a counter to roadhog when he gets the range buff though.
>>345184156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d224exB4vFs
>>345187013
Mcree will counter everything with the range buff.
>>345186680
Actual Roadhog player here. His counter is being shot. He has a huge hitbox and zero armor so he absolutely melts under focus fire. It pisses me off the most when I see my allies ignore a Roadhog that just used his hook. That's when you hit him with everything you have.
>>345183707
exactly, that's called balance
>>345186939
soldier is probably the best against him which is usually why i mostly play him but roadhog can still easily kill everyone of those "counters".
I cant wait till mcree gets his buff and I can shit on all of you roadhog mains like before.
>>345186842
>her primary weapon is shit
I think that's my problem, shes really awful to heal with. She feels like the d.va of healers where you need to have consistant aim just to equal out what the other tanks do.
Feel like she might have a lot of play in comp if they get really good with her sleep.
Personally though I think shes going to be a fad character that will get tossed aside within a month.
>road hogs ult PUSHES players away, does less damage the farther you get
JUST
>>345187212
It's for clearing points and stopping pushes
>>345187092
I usually target roadhog becuase i hate his guts and try to juke his hooks. The problem is when you get the higher elo such as myself and you face roadhog mains who's hooks and combos are on point. these roadhogs will 1 combo you every time as reaper so people need to stop spreading the lie that roadhog cannot one combo a reaper before he shifts away.
>>345186680
Reaper doesn't counter Roadhog unless he gets a heavy ambush on him, and at that point what fight DOESN'T that Reaper win? My most common interaction with Reaper is hooking him as he tries to get close and either 1-shotting him or forcing him to ghost away with 20 hp.
>no Immortan Hog skin
so is it better to just go for bodyshots over headshots when you hook people?
>>345187204
She will probably be super strong in competitive, but she has too high a skill ceiling to be someone you want to see outside high rank games. Just healing with her requires sniper accuracy.
But using her abilities right can turn a fight in your favor so fast its not even funny. She will be OP when played by a really good player.
>>345187310
Spread is too large. Always aim center mass. Half of it will hit their head anyway.
>>345187114
Sucks soldier is getting a nerf; I didn't really think he needed it. Hog can probably 1 v 1 anyone that gets too close, which is probably why /v/ hates him because they are too autistic to work with their team
>>345187310
better to go for body shot unless your pro. You can one combo anyone 300 hp and under if you hit all the shots in the spread.
>>345187405
What? Why is soldier getting nerfed? He's the bread and butter of any push
>>345187405
76's nerf isn't THAT bad. He just doesn't have sniper accuracy from burst firing. He is still a strong hero.
>>345186939
>junkrat
>tracer
>soldier
Roadhog kills these half the time. Even Pharah has to be at insane range to bully him. If she falls below like 80% max height then she is in hook range
>>345187493
>hooking a tracer
lol ok then
>>345183316
How do you get good with this guy? When I hook someone the guy goes to my left or right, never infront of me.
I never have the time to do headshot + melee combo before they run away.
>>345187310
Bodyshots. The spread is huge. If you aim for their head you won't kill anyone. Your spread will STILL miss half the pellets even if you aim square center on smaller targets like Mercy.
Why can't ana headshot, even for double damage.
>>345186229
Zarya always tears me up when I play roadhog, it seems like she's highly charged 90% of the time when I face her in pub matches.
>Mfw every time I see a Zarya
It feels like his hook doesn't go as far as it should for me.
>>345187454
It's a minor but noticeable nerf. His firing spread takes a tad longer to close back in after you stop firing. I heard rumor of people using macros to get sniper accuracy with near full-auto bursts because the spread reverted so quickly after you stopped firing, so I bet that's why the change was made.
>>345187524
to be fair you can hook a tracer, its just a bitch at higher levels.
pubbies are easy as shit to combo the fuck out of because the lot always have the exact same movement, literally every single pubbie goes to the exact same area in the range of a roadhog without fail, no creativity whatsoever and then they eat hook to the titties.
>>345187553
Better hooking accuracy may require better aiming and or predicting and or leading.
Headshot melee combo is simply a matter of holding down left click while in the animation of you pulling them, it will fire as fast as possible that way. After you fire immediately press V. Also just a tip, be prepared for the game to randomly decide to place them behind you or to the side.
>>345187405
>>345187454
>>345187469
he is not getting nerfed at all his ult cost is just increasing to compensate for how self-healing contributes to ults now in the game
>>345187584
As another Hog player I'm the one that's unintentionally feeding her charge. A good Zarya is incredibly annoying because she will shield someone after you hook them and get a shitload of energy from it.
>>345187606
Makes sense, even without macroing anything, anything other than holding the button down the entire time was incredibly accurate. If anything was going to be changed, its probably the right thing to hit.
>>345187454
Not sure really, just know he won't be pinpoint accurate at long ranges. As the other anon said, won't be too big of a deal
>>345187493
Just because a certain hero can counter another doesn't make it easy mode. If you play so a Hog can maximize his strengths, like flying directly above him, you're going to have a tough time
>>345185380
i thought hook was hitscan
One of hogs biggest weaknesses is how easily he fills enemy ult gauges, if you ever see someone like soldier just spamming his ult, tell your hog to stop being bad.
>>345187727
my bad I missed the spread recovery thing. I need to start practicing mcree again asap
>>345186648
Hook shoot melee
Melee has no animation cool down and can fire shot immediately
Will kill anyone 200 and under. Reaper and up may squeak by
>>345187806
lol no my dude
>>345187829
pretty much this, hog has to clear the area fast or terribad shit will happen to his entire team fairly fast.
>>345187524
>Not hooking Tracer every single time
Killing annoying Tracers easily is one of the main reasons I enjoy playing Roadhog so much.
>>345187558
because she fires poison darts, not bullets, so it would make no sense for headshots to do more damage.
>>345187887
Why are you replying to me? I said it would do a little over 200 damage from the start.
>>345187092
This desu senpai. Road hog nelts under focus fire. Even the fucking games tips tell you to do that.
Skill
>>345187941
I wish I used aimbots.
>roadhog players will never know what it's like to chew through the enemy team through sheer force of skill, rather than just brainlessly sipping the kills dripfed to you by your meathook cooldown
>>345187941
How do you prevent the hook that lands to the side? Easily the most annoying thing to hook a tracer for her to get an easy max dmg clip into you before going back in time
Blizzard has done a fantastic job balancing this game. Really fun and great game, will probably be around for years and may even be played in MLG settings.
>>345188052
This is why I can't play Tracer. Is can't aim for shit with her weapons. And if you don't unload every shot into an enemy she can't kill shit.
>>345188052
>skill
>one of the e-
Well fuck. I was going to say one of the easiest, but there aren't really any hard characters in OW.
>>345188052
>everyone just ignoring the tracer
Seriously no one even TURNED AROUND
>>345184453
Torb
Well yeah with all the shit he inhales I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to have cancer.
>>345188151
It's just a tracer, anon. What harm could it do?
Reaper is so good.
>that insane damage
>that healing thing
>the fact that everyone seems to ignore his loud ass teleport and loudness in general
>shadow step is fast
>>345187887
>google its damage
http://www.furiouspaul.com/overwatch/roadhog.html
225 damage for the guns full damage and then add on the melee and hook damage. roadhog can instakill a bastion i am pretty certain
>>345188127
Tracer is not one of the easiest characters. She requires good aiming made harder by you needing to constantly reposition and requires good awareness of your surroundings/who has their crosshairs on you because you can be one shot so easily
Roadhog in comparison is completely and utterly braindead and also zero risk
>>345188202
am i the only one who cant stand any of tracers emotes/highlight intros?
not to mention her voice and her overall design
not to mention her play style and the people who tend to main her
>>345187969
>Sitting around a roadhog for that long as a tracer
Deserved it
>>345188273
>>345186648
meant to reply to that post
>>345188202
>mowed down a fully healthed roadhog
what the shit? how much damage does this bitch do?
>>345188273
>>345188273
Well Bastion has 300 health and you will never get enough headshots to deal fatal damage barring godly luck, so no, he won't.
>>345183316
Don't even bother. I've come to the conclusion that Chodehog is the most popular character among 4chan users. I can't say that I'm surprised he fits the role. An epic fat meme guy with a troll hook xDD.
I don't see him defended this much anywhere else. Everyone knows he's bullshit but if you complain about him on 4chan the Chodehog defense force will pour in and start spewing shit like "Hurrr durr but you can charge your ult off of him!" or "Hurr durr just dodge the hook git gud!"
Fact is that he is bullshit. Highest health pool in the game, can insta-gib almost every character, even Winston every 6 seconds, can heal half of his massive HP pool nearly instantaneously every 5 seconds.
But yeah he's fine cause I'll be able to use my ult once I walk back from spawn after he hooked me through a wall and 1 shotted me and then huffed gas while 2 people were shooting rockets up his fat ass and then walked away.
>>345183384
>Counter to Widow
What?
>>345188386
ironically he gets countered by widow pretty hard
>>345188353
A full tracer clip at point blank range is 240 damage, headshots deal double damage
>>345188382
It's like you don't even play, all you need to do is__________________________________Git gud
>>345183316
>battleborn looks like shit
>overwatch literally has this dude
>he may very well be worse than t. "penis neck" attikus
>>345183671
Hitbox for Roadhog is still the same even on the PTR
Only way to fix the hook is to make it hitscan and make the hotbox the same has other hitscan weapons.
Maybe increase the range or damage of the hook?
>>345188449
you're better than me and have good aim so you're obviously hacking.
>>345188353
You can tell there was a soldier attacking Roadhog
>>345188353
>Eliminated Cubes 32
>>345188449
How much does tracer's melee do? Is melee damage consistent across the cast?
>>345188446
Which is why I find it funny. Widowmaker only needs to land two headshots to put every Roadhog into Panic Mode.
>>345183316
He's a big guy.
>>345188536
25, yes
I'm rank 75 and there's a roadhog in every game at this level, often 2. It's just an idiotic character. You can't dodge the meat hook on reaction because of the server update rate. By the time the hook renders it's already hit you, so you're totally at the mercy of the roadhog missing.
>>345188536
30 damage, same as all characters.
>>345188568
for you
>>345188375
I thought i saw before but was uncertain, but my arguement is for one shotting reaper which I have proven. 225 + 30 (hook damage) +25? (melee damage I dont know how much it does exactly) 280 damage.
>>345188538
2 fully charged widow headshots is 600 damage = dead boulevard bacon
Highway ham can deny her the head hitbox by turning away though
>>345183384
He actually is the annoying hero.
I can't stand the stun2win meta of blowverwatch
>everyone here
>>345188008
Thank you for the compliment.
>>345188089
This gets me killed all the time actually, but it happens most often with Lucio and Genji I think, so I end up just retreating to go huff gas.
Also be sure to hold down mouseclick as you hook to kind of queue your shot (for ones that actually land where they are supposed to) so they can't get off their abilities like rewind.
>>345188630
You don't really inflict the full 220 shotgun damage when you hook. Also reaper will wraith form spam out of it before you melee him.
1hitting reaper as streetpig depends on how many pellets hit the head, so, luck.
I love winston.
>>345188630
Yes, but reapers hitbox is too small to hit with every pellet. 95% of the time hill survive with like 20 health.
>>345183671
Play as Lucio with speed boost on with a Roadhog in a game, 9/10 hooks will pull you THROUGH walls and physical entities.
Roadhog is such a joke, I don't understand why McCree got nerfed when Roadhog literally does the same thing AND has more health AND has a reliable self heal AND doesn't have to actually be in melee range to do his death combo at all
>b-b-b-but he has to aim it!
Yes, because everyone knows that aiming the hook is incredibly difficult to do
>600 hp
>Ez kill 1-shot combo hook on 6 second cooldown
>can heal 300 hp very quickly every 8 seconds
>scrap gun can 1-shot, with RMB having extended range 1-shots
How is this balanced again?
>rank 67
>people still pick genji and do nothing all game
when does the suffering end
>>345188732
nope you are wrong. He can literally 1 shot reaper every time if the roadhog is good. As indicated by his post >>345188606 roadhog is broken if youre good with him.
When the game knows it's fucked up and just rolls with it
>>345188796
Because he's a big guy xD
>>345188606
I sincerely doubt you have 1/20th of a second reaction speed anyway.
>>345183316
Zero fucking content in your post, why respond?
>>345188473
Why is Roadhog so low and why are Tracer and Reaper above Hanzo?
>>345185452
the dynamic is the same as it is between zarya and reinhardt except inversed.
If roadhog makes the first move, zarya can win.
>>345183316
That's not Hanzo
>>345188837
I keep having the opposite problem as a Roadhog player. I'll hook a Tracer and it will even make the noise that she's been hooked then she just blinks away.
>need a healer
>zenyatta
>>345188726
Its not a compliment. No way you intentionally hit those shots.
>>345188742
His DPS is such trash tho
>>345188903
thats cause /v/ is fucking terribad at the game, also bastion, holy fuck bastion is cancer.
>>345188796
Because so long as I'm not fighting him 1v1, I can charge my entire ult off him in like 10 seconds. If the enemy team has a Roadhog, I go Soldier, stand just out of hook range, and pepper him repeatedly. If he's a good boy, he'll heal once or twice, giving me even more charge. When he's finally dead, I pop my ult and mop up the rest of his team.
>>345188936
Zenyatta is fantastic when the enemy team doesn't have snipers, or relies on zarya.
>>345188884
That he likes Battleborn heroes at all throws his taste into question.
>>345188884
Because contrary to popular belief Roadhog can be shut down very easily and used as a feeding ground for ultimates but only if you and your team don't have potatoes for brains.
It's why he's such a pub to go choice, no one focuses Roadhog which is why he can wreck Mayhem as much as he wants.
>>345188946
Yeah but he can't miss so...
>>345188946
True but that's not what he's for, he's for getting in the back line and destroying squishies and some 200 health heroes if he gets the drop on them.
>>345188884
hanzo looks too feminine for me tbqh
>why is roadhog so low
>>345183316
JESUS CHRIST LOOK AT HIM
>>345188946
You use him to take down low health characters and those with high mobility, they pretty much can't fight back
>>345183316
>there's a roadhog on the other team
>go reaper
>Free ults all round
I have honestly, truly never lost when the other team has a roadhog. It is child's play to bait out their hook and kill them.
>>345188837
I've been hooked probably 2x that length.
You know the second checkpoint on Dorado, with the big door? I was running through the adjacent doorway (where the defending team has to go through before the first checkpoint is taken) and a Hog standing at the far end of the courtyard (nearby to the stalls, behind the fountain) hooked me.
The range on that hook is fucking retarded.
>>345188996
Yeah, he can't miss in his one meter radius attack that can only take down enemies below 100hp
>>345188946
Well he's a tank, they all have shitty dps
>>345188992
>Because contrary to popular belief Roadhog can be shut down very easily
He really can't, he is a giant problem in any fight and guaranteed to get at least one kill, thus paying for himself. Then your team (down one hero) has to deal with a 900 HP tumor before its 6-second hook comes off cooldown while the enemy DPS are fucking you in the ass
>>345188936
>that recent buff
>making him the strongest support hero damage wise and has the survivability of all the others too
>shift is a moderate heal
>not as fast as mercy's not as slow as lucios
I don't see the problem, his ult is also god tier now.
>>345189024
>have never faced a good roadhog
>is rank 40
>>345188992
look closely at the chart
>>345183384
true
but he has no counter since the nerf to mcree. The name of the game to taking out a roadhog is quick bursts of high damage. FOTH was the only reliable way to get enough damage in quick enough to actually put roadhog in danger. Phara's rockets are way too slow, same with Junkrat's grenades. Reaper and Tracer can do enough damage, but it's not fast enough thanks to small clip size for reaper and the super fast shots and long reload time on tracer's weapons (not to mention how his shotgun can one shot her if he can catch her)
Overall though, the only nerf i think he needs is either a damage reduction on his shotgun (at least on characters with more than 200hp), or reduce his health/healing capabilities. Maybe put a longer CD on his heal, or have it heal slower/longer, just so that it becomes more dangerous for him to pop it in the middle of a firefight.
As of now he's just a giant bullet sponge with the power to self heal a massive amount in a stupidly short amount of time, and also has the benefit of being able to oneshot half the roster (including other tanks like D.va and Winston) if he can get a hook off. It takes at least two dedicated team members to train him and neutralize him, which is why we're constantly seeing teams stack him in competitive mode.
>Roadhog tries to hook somebody
>misses completely
>hits me in the background by random chance
LOL! SKILL!
>>345186648
OH FUCKING WOW DUDE NICE MATH EXCEPT YOU FORGOT HOOK DOES 30 DAMAGE AND HIS MELEE ALSO DOES 30 DAMAGE AND IF YOU AIM YOUR SHOTGUN AT THEIR UPPER TORSO SOME OF YOUR PELLETS WILL SPREAD INTO THE HEAD.
A GOOD ROADHOG WILL ALMOST ALWAYS KILL A REAPER WITH THE HOOK COMBO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU LESS THAN 50 RANKING PEICE OF FUCKING GARBAGE.
ROADHOG MAINS LITERALLY END YOURSELVES.
If you play any hero with >201hp, you're playing the game on easy mode and you get zero respect from me. If you're playing Roadhog and think you're "good," you're just delusional and abusing something that's going to end up being balanced eventually.
>>345189097
>implying
reinhardt can have pretty good DPS when hes actually in range to hit shit.
roadhog can do well if hes not plinked off by people who don't suck, which disregards 99.5% of /v/
>>345189006
hanzo has a beard
>Roadhog
Is it just a "fat character design instantly sucks" thing?
>>345189101
>He really can't
Nigger a Phara that can aim and a Soldier 76 are nightmare if they are smart and choose to gang up on Roadhog. I hate it when a Soldier 76 chooses to put me on his shit list because it's impossible for him to miss a shot and he wittles you down pretty fast too.
>>345183316
how does his right click works?
>>345188958
Haha same here dude. I love playing against Roadhogs because if theres a Roadhog on the other team the rest of his teammates dont do anything. They just stand there and let us charge our ultimates off of him haha. Also the Roadhog is totally not getting kills cause its really hard for him to get kills you know?
He just stands there and gets shot at and his team sits in spawn and doesnt do anything. haha.
Walking ultimate charge. He's balanced see.
>>345189154
you sound upset.
You also sound like you have literally never played the game. You will never melee a reaper, because he will wraith away. Even if he didn't, you won't hit with every pellet. The spread is too wide.
>>345189228
Can you math?
>hook damage is thirty
>does a max of 225
>225+30=255
boom reaper is dead
>>345189209
Soldier 76 does 170 dps at point blank, nowhere near enough to deal with a non-shit roadhog before he's hooked a squishy then instagibbed another one with a ranged shot.
Man, I play versus literal overwatch ``pros'' and they run roadhog in basically every composition, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>345189209
>Nigger a Phara that can aim and a Soldier 76 are nightmare if they are smart and choose to gang up on Roadhog.
Yes, if they are smart and focus a 600 health character who can also stall for time with his heal who can also and probably did one shot someone already with his hook, meanwhile the rest of roadhog's team is free to fuck everyone else up while two of the other team's main damage dealers are focused entirely on a target that they will not be able to kill for at least 5 or so seconds. Great plan, Roadhog was truly made useless by that big play!
>>345189215
It seems like you don't know how to position yourself. If you're running blindly into a room, it's your fault for getting hooked. If you get anywhere near a Roadhog, it's your fault. If the enemy has a Roadhog, you need to adjust your strategy. This is part of the game. Pick a hero with range, find a place with cover that he can't easily reach, and shoot the fucker in the face. Or, if that doesn't strike your fancy, pick Reaper and literally press W and M1.
>>345189329
>Great plan, Roadhog was truly made useless by that big play!
Yeah he was considering everyone else got his ult ready in a short time to wipe the floor with the enemy team.
Are they really going to nerf Zenny after they decided to buff him?
>>345189213
it explodes after 10 meters in a shotgun form. It's like if you were shooting your left click from 10 meters infront of you.
It's probably the strongest ability in the game if you can land it consistantly.Headshotting shotting with the explosion is insane
If you don't space it though and hit the ball before it explodes it only does 50 damage.
>>345189392
>it's okay, just lose the fight and you'll have your ult for next time!
>>345189284
>pros
Like who?
>get hooked by road
>hope hes bad and won't shoot the moment the hook pulls in
>>345189392
this.
its incredible how bad /v/ is at this game.
>>345189392
You're really overstating the ult battery thing. Roadhog is an 'ult battery' at low-level play because he's the only target baddies can hit. At rank 70+ everyone is an ult battery because it's not hard for anyone to hit anyone.
>>345189397
His health, his damage, and his fucking ult.
>>345189398
>Accidentally killing a full health Reaper with rightclick
>Instant "What the fuck?" in chat
>>345189391
Oh no dude I totally know how to position myself. Its just like you said. If theres a Roadhog on the other team I just pick 76 and get completely ignored by everyone on the enemy team while I "pepper" him and shit out tactical visors every 10 seconds. Even after he inevitably gets a couple of kills because his insta-gib ability has a 6 second cooldown, the enemy team will just ignore me while I pepper away on Soldier 76.
He's so easy. I'm good like you man.
>>345189458
Seagull
>>345189228
OH WOW DUDE ONCE AGAIN YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG BECAUSE A GOOD ROADHOG WILL MELEE ON ALMOST THE SAME FUCKING FRAME THAT HE SHOOTS HIS SHOTGUN ON WHILE YOU'RE STILL LOCKED IN THE HOOK'S STUN.
ALSO REAPER'S HITBOX IS PRETTY LARGE SO ALMOST EVERY PELLET WILL LAND.
AND YES I AM FUCKING UPSET IM SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF THESE FUCKING ROADHOG MAINS PLAGUING EVERY ONE OF MY FUCKING GAMES RANDOMLY THROWING HOOKS UNTIL THEY EVENTUALLY GET A FREE PICK AND WIN THE POINT.
>>345189189
Yeah but his face still looks really girly. Like, not -true- girly but there's a femininity to his expression that I don't like. Good concept, bad face, sorta like McRee.
It's one thing to be fat but his whole character design just looks bad
his mask is bad enough but he has an exaggerated balloon baby with a literal pig nose belly button
Roadhog is just literally OW's pyro isnt it?
This hookbullshit is just the degreaser combos all the skilless faggots did back in 2012.
Literally nothing wrong with Roadhog. He can't effectively TANK like Reinhard or Zarya, and he isn't mobile like dva or wilson. On the other hand he's got damage to counter his shortcomings.
His hard counter is Reaper, who shreds through him. Mei can easily CC him and press shift when he grabs her. She can outlast him easily, but she can't kill him quickly and effectively. Junkrat is a decent counter since he can just spam him to death. Also you can shift-rightclick if he grabs you with chain and run away, not to mention that he gets punished if he steps in your post-death bombs.
He's got no shields, he's got no escapes. If he's caught he can't fly away or pop out a shield.
>>345189458
Steel (former CSGO pro who got banned for matchfixing), Seagull (some twitch meme,) Taimou (finnish aimbotter on EnvyUs - here's a webm of his aimbot malfunctioning in a tournament)
>>345189523
Jesus tapdancing christ
And I really wanted to git gud at him after the buff
Is there a character you cucks won't complain about?
>>345189610
hes more like the heavy. Hes decent and fairly threatening, but shit if hes overwhelmed.
Pyro is Mei for many obvious reasons.
>>345189542
Did you read the part where I said to find a place with cover? Or you know, maybe use your tanks as tanks? If the Roadhog gets a kill or two in the process, that's a fair trade since not only do you have ult, you just killed one of people who could interrupt it.
>>345189569
>forgot to clarify i was talking about hanzo line 1 and roadhog line 2 and 3
i'm sorry. i've failed
>>345189457
>Just lose the fight
>Thinks Roadhog is gonna live for longer than 2 sec
Have you ever fought against a Roadhog or do you just assume he actually can survive? Widowmaker only needs two headshots to kill him from 100% because he's so easy to target. Have you ever tried focusing with your entire team Roadhog? His Heal might be non existent because he dies faster than he can turn around. It's like shooting a movable Pinyata
>>345189616
>Mei can easily CC him and press shift when he grabs her
You're guaranteed to eat his shotgun blast though, which will almost instant kill you.
And then die, because Mei is a flanker and the enemy will always have backup so you'll be surrounded by the time your freeze ends.
>>345189616
>He can't effectively TANK
As >>345189329 described, he is a walking mass of health that needs to be dealt with and doing so allows him to absorb a great deal of focus away from his teammates, or if he is left alone he can quite happily wreak havoc on the enemy team, something the other tanks can't actually do
He doesn't 'block' damage, but he does very much fill the tank role provided you punish the enemy team for ignoring you
>>345189694
they fucking love reaper because /v/ is a pack of edgy underaged autistic children who suck at video games.
>>345189669
Things would have been better if they never buffed him. Ult buff though was nice but you have to hit a guy ONE extra time now with the damage nerf. Making it basically null the bonus 25+ health that they are nerfing it down to.
Hes litterally worse than before.
>>345189397
what are you talking about?
>>345189694
Rein
He's literally perfect
>>345183556
I like playing as Roadhog vs a Reinhard. They shut each other down so neatly. It's a lot of fun trying to outwit him.
>use ulti as road
>enemy rein waited for it
>he's forced to use his ulti to counter mine
>both ulties wasted constantly
>he tries charging
>i grab him with a hook and stop him from taking out my teammate
>he holds a shield up
>i go in his face and unload through the shield
>he's forced to smash me with a hammer
>try to grab his healer
>he puts his shield up and blocks my hook
>>345189702
>Pyro is ice girl
nega-pottery?
>>345189759
Reaper is the most balanced hero in the game. Hes easy to spot, you always know where he is with his loud ass tele, and his escape is dogshit. He also required to be in a dangerous location to be useful but will get shut down if the team is aware of him.
Hes pretty much the spy but actually has a use.
>>345189837
in that matchup reinhard usually gets way pissed at the roadhog being the fat sack of fat he is and just tackles his ass off the map if possible.
>>345189702
I don't see it.
Yeah they're just spray and prey, but in this situation I see pyro.
>Dumb psychotic personality
>Easybake combos rewarded with freekills (hi flaregun)
>More effective than it has the right to be.
>Bunch of skill-less retards defending their character pick
Mei is just ineffective.
>>345189781
They're going to reduce his health from 200 to 175
and he's going to be a little bit slower when ulting
and I believe they reduced his damage
>>345189771
Zenny is literally JUST: the hero
>>345189781
Hes getting nerfed because people think hes good.Because hes not exploding and shitters are over-extending trying to get a free kill
>>345189523
>>345189783
too much reward for being such an easy to play character. they oughta lower his shield and make it so the dash pin doesn't insta-kill people with <300hp. Reinhardt is overpowered.
>>345189104
>need a HEALER
his heal is shit
>>345189112
rank 70 actually.
>"good" roadhogs
HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
No seriously roadhog is a trash hero who will only be even playable when the self healing ult charge comes into the regular game.
Have fun wuth your "I'm going to let the other team have unlimited ults" hero until then,
>>345183487
everytime i hook a reaper he just misty steps away
warlock is op
>>345189101
>that perfectly timed stripping of zarya's shields into a helix rocket that hit exactly at the moment when it could finish her
>>345183870
/v/ is filled with some of the most unskilled and butthurt shitters to ever boot into a video game. For every skilled autist there are 10 retarded babies on /v/ and for every well- adujusted person there's at least 100 spaghetti-flinging raging lunatics on here. Then again most of /v/'s traffic are underageb&s so it's to be expected.
>>345189545
You know when you have a dedicated healslut everyone can be a pro
>>345189914
I want to just take blizzards hand from the keyboard and just say no.
ZENYATTA HAS FINALLY BECOME FUN FOR ONCE AND THEY RUINED IT.
>>345189837
The other night I was laughing maniacally after ulting a Reinhardt, hearing HAMMER DOWN, and the ult never going off because he was stuck in the air.
>>345184838
Yes, Reaper has the better ult, with or without the Ana ult boost. Nothing much has changed. There's more to picking characters than who has the cheesiest ult dummy
Who /good at vido gam/ here?
>he is an ult battery so he's balanced
how to spot a Roadhog main.
>>345189397
If anything should be nerfed it's the "Hard mode" AI Zenyatta.
>>345189973
t. Rank 45 shitlord
>>345189893
>if possible
In reality:
>Rein's shield goes down
>gets mad he can't just hold RMB any more
>tries to charge Roadhog
>actually lands the charge for once
>Hog instantly heals himself
>2-shots the Rein
>>345190025
Good for you bro.
Must be great winning the solo lottery.
>>345190027
I don't even understand how it makes sense
Literally every tank or character is an 'ult battery' if you get down to it. Roadhog is marginally moreso sure, but not so much that it justifies being objectively superior.
>>345190025
If you're solo q then yes you're good anon and I'm proud of you
If you have a premade
fuck off
>>345190093
If the shield goes down it's the fault of your teammates
>>345190081
I don't play overwatch but you can disregard my word and fall into one or both of those two categories of retard if you want.
>>345190093
to be fair in most other circumstances reinhardt is OP as almighty fuck for what he does, not much really deals with the giant wall of fuck you other then a good roadhog.
>>345190104
He's an ult battery without the pushing power of Gorilla Warfare or Shieldstein. That's a huge disadvantage.
>>345190025
>get lambasted in my placement games
>rank 49
>have not lost a single comp game out of about 30
>rank 52
Comp is such shit oh my gerd.
>>345190130
All solo queue, but I dropped down to 73 today
http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/ENUMBRE-1733/heroes/7
>rank 47 because I suck
>level 33
>level 112 talks shit the entire game
>look him up
>~42% winrate in both ranked and casual
>>345189930
His heal is great because he kills everyone before they can do any more damage.
>>345190173
This is true. I actually think Rein needs some toning down, considering he's practically a necessity on every payload/CP map. I'd rather his offensive capabilities get a buff and his shield be more like 1500 hp instead of 2000.
>>345190221
I'm jelly
>>345190104
>Literally every tank or character is an 'ult battery'
They are really not
Reinhardt has his shield that you can't charge ultimates off
With Zarya you are her Battery for shooting her
Winston Jumps around like a chimp chimping around and can disengage very fast after he fried your healer/squishy so he isn't really around for long.
D.Va can now absorb a lot of damage and can also disengage really fast
Roadhog has no mobility has the highest HP pool, can heal really often so others can keep shooting him.
>>345183487
>his counter
roadhogs counter is any tank with a shield.
if he can't use his hook he can't do shit, the effective range of his gun is <1m
>>345190104
can any f those other tanks pop around a corner, heal half thier health, then continue being an ult battery?
No?
That's why RH is an ult battery.
>>345190196
I dunno man. Sending someone on the enemy team back to spawn every 6 seconds is a good way to push IMO.
>>345190173
>my face pushing the last few meters on Hollywood and get a teamkill
>reinhardt walks to the spawn and swings his hammer and wipes the entire team almost alone.
>>345190297
Roadhog counters winston d.va *on and off* and reinhardt. only tank that doesn't consistantly get shat on is zarya for the hook denies.
>>345190206
>lambasted
inigomontoya.jpg
>reinhart is either absolutely fucking useless or a complete destroyer of worlds
other than genji/snipers, what other characters are this way
>>345190393
Everyone of them that doesn't have an I win the engagement button.
>>345190393
Tracers
>>345189097
Zarya would like to have a word with you.
So does the sleep refresh ult charge?
I slept a genji that ultedand was nanoboostedbut then came back in like 10 seconds later with another ult.he was also pissed
>>345190393
Every single attack hero besides Soldier 76.
Bastion.
Zarya.
>>345189097
literally every tank does a fuck ton of damage
>roadhog
a non stop damage/train and picks off snipers/pharah
>winston
really, really, underrated, needs great positioning+some luck though
>reinhart
honestly just good as fuck, hammer does a lot of damage and will be BROKEN with ana
>zarya
literally broken
>>345190319
Oh are we assuming perfect accuracy?
We're assuming every roadhog player gets a hook EVERY TIME?
Well under that, yeah wow, roadhog is sooooooo goooooood.
Under that logic, why do people play anyone but widowmaker?
There's a reason Roadhogs get a card at the end of the match for hook accuracy, because it never fucking happens.
Typical roadhog player.
>People actually caring about Overwatch's balance
Who the fuck cares? Just play a hero you like. It doesn't even matter if you lose, you still get XP. This game is broken and stilted as fuck by design, don't pretend it can be balanced.
>>345190025
>i am only 62
>>345190551
>His hook is hard to land!
Nice post. Upvoated.
>>345190130
premade queue is harder than solo queue
>>345183316
>pick zen
>discord
>hit head 2-3 times
Enjoy your roast pork.
PRESS X TO INSTA KILL
PRESS X TO INVINCIBILITY
PRESS X TO INVINCIBILITY AND HEAL
>>345186032
You are correct, hitscan with an animation making it seem like he hooks you through walls. It sucks when you cop it but I get it.
>>345190637
Nice reading comprehension retard.
lmaoing @ these ult battery faggots
Oh no, you gave them some ult progress cry me a fucking river. If it's such a crippling flaw then maybe you should not use your heal at all, then they won't get as much ult! I mean, it's the such a crippling flaw!
Oh wait you're not going to do that are you? No you're not, because it's way more fucking useful than the tradeoff of giving ult, which hardly fucking matters in comparison and your own team is also getting as it savages the enemy team spending fucking eons dealing with your bullshit.
You guys are fucking delusional
>>345183487
Reaper should be able to get out of the hook with wraith form while he's being pulled.
Fuck getting stunned by Roadhog's hook and then getting insta-killed because he can instantly fire after his hook. It should at least have some delay.
So if roadhog is so good i should start playing him to win all my games right?
>>345190501
>soldier
Some of these fucks seem like they have a permanent tactical visor.
>>345190726
If no one in your team is playing him yes, that's why he's such a common pick in the same manner McCree was
>>345190724
Get a load of this roadhog main
Hey buddy, every time your team loses?
It's your fault.
>getting one shot by a lucky streetpig who headshot you with his rmb
Literally worse than pre-nerf stun + fan the hammer, holy shit.
>>345183316
You nerf Roadhog and Tracer/Genji get 10x more annoying.
I don't want to live in a world like that.
>>345190571
If the hero is useless though I care because I might want to play them.
>>345190724
>be tracer
>unload a mag into him for 400 damage
>he takes a breather
>kill the retard
>go from 0 to 100 ult charge off him alone
wew
>>345190825
At least Tracer and Genji have low health and actually have to fucking aim
>>345190660
More now that hes been nerfed.
>>345190869
>What actually happens in non shitter games
the roadhog hooks tracer and tracer immediately dies
or
the roadhog misses his hook but Tracer is forced to remain in close range for a long period of time to do damage regardless, roadhog then shoots tracer with his shotgun at close range, who immediately dies
>>345190898
Nerfed for 5 damage an orb.
and buffed for 5 damage an orb for his shotgun fire.
>think to myself I could improve by watching the "pros"
>literally every channel I get sent to is just someone getting sucked off by two healers for all eternity in his premade
Should I even bother watching the tourneys or just go back to using my rage as fuel in solo Q
>>345190852
If you think a hero is useless then you don't want to play them.
I still fuck around with Zen and D.va even if they suck, and I didn't really care whether or not they ever got buffed. The fact that they are is nice, but it's just going to lead to more whining and bullshit.
>>345190992
I'm rank 72 and can still do this. Where are these non shitter games?
>>345190992
t. roadhog
You're fucking so delusional.
>>345190998
>and buffed for 5 damage an orb for his shotgun fire.
...
>>345191051
Why do you keep saying this?
My posts have been straight up saying Roadhog is horseshit, how does that make me a Roadhog main?
>>345191029
Sure but I would argue having a d.va on your team is just hurting it. Zenyatta can at least shell some decent damage out, but d.va is just useless in everything she does. kind of like non ptr mccree.
>>345191039
I don't know man, some mysterious world where Roadhogs can't aim despite being high rank. You tell me.
>>345189397
If they're nerfing people I want genji thrown in with his fucking bullshit double jump
>Genji gets in any kind of fucking danger
>He just double jumps constantly, making him hard as shit to hit
>Does this non fucking stop to contest the point
>>345191085
Left click reduced to 40 from 45
Right click increased from 35 to 40.
Are you retarded?
>>345191026
The only thing you learn from tourneys is how to aimbot the least obviously.
>>345191128
>having a d.va on your team is just hurting it
Once again, who the hell cares? I'm playing casual matches that last <10 minutes per round, sometimes <5 minutes. People need to stop investing so much thought into this game when it's just a crapshoot with cosmetics and fancy bells and whistles on it. Blizzard can't into competitive games and I really don't care if they can, I just want to fly around, throw shiny projectiles and do silly taunts.
I never had a problem with it in TF2, why is it such a big deal here?
>>345191128
>Zenyatta can at least shell some decent damage out
Does anyone else have trouble hitting shit with Zenyatta? I just can't hit shit with those balls for some reason.
>>345191143
Is blizzard? the whole point of the difference was that the left click was a stronger move than right but right was a better defensive move, but now you can right cancel and always have better damage. This is like them nerfing FTH damage.
>>345183316
lmao you suck
>>345186207
That's coz Mei is a low skill ceiling shitter designed for retards who can't hit moving targets.
Any decent Roadhog player can and should fuck her up.
Cooldown needs to be longer on his hook, there Roadhog is fixed. As it stands now missing a hook doesnt mean a damn thing because it just comes back in 6 seconds. For how much reward the hook offer, it should have a downside to missing it.
>>345191239
practice on training dummies for a while, took me a while but now I can ONLY hit shit with zenyatta but I always hit headshots.
One important thing, Don't aim for the player, aim for the target underneath the discord icon. You will have to blind fire at it way more than you'd expect.
>>345186680
>Zarya continuously bubbles everyone he hooks.
What now piggy?
>>345191246
Harmony nigga, do you embrace it?
Zen is a glass cannon. His right click is ment to DESTROY people if he manages to land it. But it never did. so they buffed it.
>>345186939
>Tracer counters Roadhog
Other way around Hombre
>>345191460
but now they nerfed the left click so they do equal damage.
Now theres like no reason to left click because you can spam cancel the right click for equal damage and more if you get a second orb charged.
I really don't know how I feel about this.
>>345191236
because not everyone is a filthy fucking casual shitter like you, faggot
I wonder if he was actually fine when blizzard did internal playesting on LAN or 128tick.
>>345191560
Embrace tranquility
>>345191583
Sure m8, keep pretending "press Q to win" makes you a hero. I'd compare competitive scores with you but I don't have one because I don't buy into blizzard's shitty esports meme.
>>345188241
Winston proceeds to go full Harambe on the Red Team.
>>345191310
The self heal should also be 200
That or increase the cooldown to around 12 seconds.
The cooldowns for Roadhog's abilities are just way too short for what they offer
>>345188313
>Tracer literally has "Get out of Jail Free" bound to E
>Complains another character is low risk
>>345188837
About max length but ported right into the hitbox. Can't really complain there.
>>345189638
Did he get banned for that at least? Thats some shit
>>345188952
(You)
>>345188241
>shadow step is fast
man I would love for a hero with a litteral shadowstep like the ones rogues have.
>>345188606
>What is prediction?
9/10 Roadhog blows his load within a second of seeing you
should i buy this game?
>>345191947
No and he played today and won some money
Surefour, another aimbotter, is also still playing and won $3000 a couple weeks ago
>>345190025
Got seriously fucked on my last placement match by having a team of random against a full team of 70+s. MM is such shit in this game, all you can do is laugh. Guess I'll take my 68 and fuck off with it to play QP til next season.
>>345192032
just to note the replays actually smooth the fuck out of your aim.
Not entirely sure why they do this, maybe to make it look more badass.
>>345192032
Thats shit. Hopefully blizzard gets it together
>>345192017
yeah it's fun
>>345192017
Do you enjoy playing an online fps with toxic community and retarded people?
If yes, then go ahead
>>345191246
People seem to be forgetting that zen is a support hero, not an offense. He's been buffed far too much in the ptr and will be spammed every comp game if his current changes are pushed live, the discord and harmony orb speed changes are actually extremely significant and made him more effective than most offenses, hence the left click nerf
>>345191834
This is somewhat true, but at the same time E is only useful if the Tracer player realises they're in a disadvantageous situation and chooses to retreat, which requires awareness and knowledge, or if Tracer has been hurt but not killed. Tracer has 150 health and is frequently oneshotted, so this often isn't an option and not something a player can bank on.
You are right though, it is an extremely strong escape so she's not as high risk as some other characters.
>>345192159
>>345192173
pc or console?
>>345189638
>>345192032
And this is why you can't take just about any "eSport" seriously.
>>345192149
I've done stuff like this with better accuracy.
>>345192194
PC of course
>playing fps games with a controller
>>345192194
What do you think?
>>345192194
>fps
>controller
>>345192194
PC you goddamn troglodyte, what kind of manic street turd actually even considers playing fps on consoles?
Literally just got out of a game as roadhog where we had a leaver. We still almost tied, but the 5v6 made it impossible. I had 5 gold medals. With a lucio on our team. And to top it all off, my card didn't even show "5 gold medals", it showed my eliminations and nothing else. And then I lost full points for playing 5v6 instead of just a few. I threw my glass cup into the wall. I hate this fucking game so much.
>>345189638
Now that's just egregious.
>>345192257
it's not the accuracy, it's the snap to the tracer after she blinks away
see also: snapping through a wall in this webm
>>345192304
I like to leave in close games just to piss tryhards like you off :)
>>345183316
If you get grabbed it's your own fault
>>345190385
Reinhardt shield blocks Hog hook tho
>>345192334
As retarded as the blatant cheating is here, is the fucking "pro" meta to really overload on Tracers like this?
>>345192341
Nice try, but if you leave while the game is close I'll still win. We lost because he left right off the bat and we still almost tied.
>>345192421
Yes but they're adding a 1-hero limit to competitive in the next patch
>>345192149
i bet you think that this is hacking too as it's not that different from that webm
>>345192017
It's one of those "only good with friends" games
90% of the time your team will be braindead shitters.
It's an FPS with MOBA-tier cancer and toxicity, don't be surprised if you come out of a match with severe retardation and a headache.
Why are most people in the thread so bad at this game?
>Play reaper the most
>Roadhogs
The rock paper scissors game reapers and roadhogs play is hilarious. I don't even care if I get hooked and oneshotted. You earned it champ. I got outplayed.
On the flipside, seeing a roadhog panic and die after he misses his hook it better than a blowjob from an experienced prostitute.
>>345192421
The meta is 2x tracer 2x lucio 2x winston.
Competitive play is invariably cancer
>>345192380
yes but if reinhardt drops the shield for a split second roadhog can take advantage of it and pull him in for an instant kill.
This pretty much forces him to keep the shield up the entire engagement. And roadhog if he wants can focus fire it for a good chunk with each right click.
And if rein charges road hes finished because road can shoot, stun, shoot or just heal and shoot.
Trust me, he hard counters rein.
>>345192535
It actually isn't
The meta is to run that for the first like 30 seconds and then switch
This is not a moba, people change characters
>>345192529
Only 3 kills? If you don't average a full teamwipe with every Reaper kill you're shit bud
I love how the OP "meta" keeps changing without any actual patches nerfs or buffs to those specific heroes
>Bastion
>Mei
>Genji
Then McRee and Widow who got nerfed (since they actually WERE OP), and now it's always Zarya and Roadhog.
You can just see people are entering new brackets where people discovered a better way to play than you are used to and destroy you.
Literally get gud. The game is more balanced than any team based "competetive" shooter has been on launch.
>>345192535
>mfw ana might make a huge swell in the comp line up for at least a whole week before things settle down into boredom
>>345192473
>>345192535
Good lord. Seriously, having a team in QP that does silly shit is one thing but these "professionals" are cancer incarnate to do this stupid shit. Thank God I don't have any intention of doing this crap.
>>345187606
>>345187454
The macros were for lazy people who didn't bother muscle memory the 4 shot burst.
Even though now macros will be used more and I saw someone doing math its around a 33% dps nerf.
>>345192668
how is it silly when it's the optimal team comp
pros don't run silly shit, they run what works best
>>345192668
Pubs go 6x winston because it's fun
Pros go their cookie cutter lineup because they're the most effective
>>345192706
No, with macros you could actually just hold down fire and it'd be 100% accurate, there's no delay from stopping like there is with manual mode
>>345192628
Not really but hey, if you feel that strongly, I doubt anyone's gonna give two shits.
>>345192730
You apparently misread my post.
>>345192737
Thanks for the newsflash, chief.
>>345192623
Yup I am terrible. I just make webms for reaper and only for Q's.
Only plays that can be titled "typical reaper"
>>345192798
Well improve your wording so people don't think you don't know shit faggot
>>345188324
I also hate her.
She's so fucking annoying. I would play Tracer if she wasnt the dyke bitch she is right now with her fake fucking accent and shitty VA
>CHEERS LUV CAVARLY'S 'ERE
>EVER GET THAT FEELING OF DEJAVU?
>CHEERS LUV CAVARLY'S 'ERE
>EVER GET THAT FEELING OF DEJAVU?
>CHEERS LUV CAVARLY'S 'ERE
>EVER GET THAT FEELING OF DEJAVU?
I am fucking sick of that whore.
>>345192494
Thanks. You just saved me 60 euros.
>>345185789
>Reinhardt is largely defense
Really? I've found that wading into the battlefield like a sentient german tank is super effective.
>>345192847
That was a p sick play btw.
>>345184156
Haiai !
>>345190025
>get to rank 50
>get 10 matches in a row teamed up with pure shitheads even though I got at least 2 golds everytime
>rank 43
>get teamed up with even more retards, impossible to rank up
comp ranking
it just werks
>>345192967
I know that feel bro.
>>345192967
>I got at least 2 golds everytime
medals mean literally nothing unless you're running 5 golds
you should focus less on medals and more on winning the game
>>345193039
Medals do mean something, don't be a memer.
>>345192967
>medals
It's all about voice communication.
The second I got a microphone my rank immediately went up 5 levels.
>hook someone
>they end up fucking behind me or to my side
>pic related happens immediately afterwards
>>345193116
the only medal that means something is objective time
>>345193039
Winning means you are better than the other team.
Gold medals mean you are better than your team.
Is there any reason not to just throw the games that determine what rank you are and just pubstomp plebs?
>>345192967
>get to 59
>about to rank up to 60
>get put with an epic troll who only plays torb against a 4 stack who are pure coordination incarnate
>complain about him picking torbjorn on a payload map on attack
>LEL TROLLED XD UR MAD SO SALTY
>>345193039
>5 golds
That's literally impossible
Even if you have a potato for a healer, you still can't outheal your healer
>>345183384
>counters Genji
you fucking what?
>>345193249
5 golds means that your healer was so shit that the game was unwinnableor you played zenyatta
>>345193249
>pick roadhog
>have sense to go around the corner and gulp down estus
>have gold for healing because the only other healer was a fucking zenyatta
Yeah.
>>345193249
Fucking christ I wish that were true.
>>345193249
Roadhogs and reapers beg to differ.
Especially when your teams "healer" is a zebyatta,
>>345193210
>hammer all your clip into whatever shield you can find without actuallydamaging or killing an enemy
>get gold damage
>play Soldier, ping every enemy you see for 3 damage, never actually deal any considerable damage or kill an enemy
>get gold 'eliminations'
Nah
>>345193249
What if your """"""healer"""""" was symmetra
>>345193335
So "play like a total bitch to cheese gold medals" is your point?
K then.
>>345193306
>>345193315
>>345193332
Poor Zenyatta
>>345192869
That and her voice lines are literal memes.
>keep calm and tracer on
How to one shot reaper as Roadhog?
aim for head? or aim for body?
They always seem to get away with a little bit of HP.
>>345192847
>Tfw when you lose the DIE DIE Danceoff
>>345193306
>>345193315
>>345193316
>>345193332
Jesus, I've played almost a thousand matchs and I've never seen anyone with 5 golds card before
>>345193421
The point is that gold medals aren't inherently a mark of actually being a contribution to the team
even gold obvjective isn't, you could go lucio or tracer and speedboost around on it 24/7 and your team would still be up 5v6
>>345193515
Reminder that his ult doesn't shoot beneath him.
>>345193515
Embrace the Mexican danceoff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Rqdgna3Yw
>>345193553
Happens in quickplay sometimes where people come and leave and sometimes you dont even get anyone to play a healer. And then maybe someone plays one but the game is already half-gone and you're gonna beat him in the healing.
>>345193689
Whats dumb about reaper is that the souls heal him when he ults, I've seen some crazy results by removing his heal with ana.
>>345193689
That music goes perfectly with any reaper webm.
>>345193553
i still got a mvp card for 94% on fire
>>345188052
>I can kill 3 people not looking at me!
lol
>>345193574
Not him, but you are only partially right. When you play a tank and have gold objective time, you did your job. When you play flanker and have gold eliminations, you did your job. Healing as healer, you did your job.
Junkrat should always have gold damage, support should always have gold healing(if applicable). It's just common sense.
But also when you pull out a card as Symmetra that your teleporters were 50%+ up, you did your job. Even though Symmetra is very situational and kind of a shit hero most of the time you still did her role perfectly.
Toblerone getting a gold doesn't mean shit, because his turret tags everything. But he's good at controlling and punishing flankers so even though there is no gold or card for that he still did his job.
Medals indicate how good you follow your supposed role if possible. Getting 5 gold means your team was utter shit though.
>>345194013
You can?
I'm impressed anon.
>rank 63
>got paired up against two rank 78s
>they both went hanzo and picked us off one by one
>it almost felt like they were taunting us, calling us tryhard shitters
>their aim was so good, probably a too good, but I didn't say anything because I didn't want to be THAT guy
I felt so powerless. The skill gap was too great. It was just like my japanese animes utter defeat trope before a training arc.
>mfw that indirect nerf too Hanzo shitters
>>345193847
Your group is shit if you got 5 golds as Zenyatta
>>345194098
Yeah that's the thing, many important contributions to the team can't be reflected in 5 simple binary medals. Killing the enemy healer, for example, is super important- if we have two genjis, one who feels very special and kills three enemies with his ult, but neglects the Mercy who then rezzes everyone, and another one who goes for the Mercy first and then maybe takes out another guy before getting put down- I'd take the second one any day.
Or the Torb example, or a McCree keeping to his Mercy to protext her from flankers, or dozens of other examples.
>>345192535
if you seriously believe that then you are actually clinically retarded.
>>345183896
Then you must play shit Zaryas, I literally hunt down roadhogs because they are so easy.
>>345193553
Iv only ever gotten 5 golds once on Roadhog
>>345184156
Ha-hayai!
>>345183316
Oh you mean pudge?
tfw this is the only decent thing i've done recently
i was pretty happy with it though, i have a lot of problem tracking Pharah's
>>345194335
I wholeheartedly agree. There should be a card that indicates how many "supports" you murdered. I also think they should give different outlines on cards to indicate which is more important for which role. Instead of every card being blue, add gold and purple to show good dedication to the role and give them preference when being pulled.
Then need to be more strict about leaving in competitive. It should be a temporary EXP penalty the first time, followed by a temporary competitive ban, followed by a season ban.
What would be wrong with that system? Why does Blizzard allow people to just leave for free once every 10 games or so just because they got butthurt?
>>345194595
Cards should also mean something.
If you get 5 you should receive a loot box.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CneHovZUIAAm_Ug.jpg:large
Would you play as Ana if she was a bit younger?
>>345194410
would be more impressive if we could see the pharah instead of a massive pixel
>>345194660
5 commendations, I mean
>>345194663
I was not expecting that.
>>345194663
Why would loli Ana look like old Ana? She used to have black hair.
>>345194713
>>345194660
Healslut, please.
>>345194709
That's just a buff to pharah, it compresses all of her pixels down so she looks shittier so less people play her. Which means more people underestimate her when she kicks their ass.
Ana's a pretty good counter to Roadhog. Her anti-heal grenade basically completely removes his tanking ability as he can't self heal himself anymore. He can still grab one person and kill them sure, but he's not going to be allowed to survive after that unless the opposing team is utter shit.
>>345194748
She used regen pills to get 50 years younger, hence why she still have her lost eye.
>>345194827
Only retards heal themselves in the open
>>345194709
blame 4chans shitty 3MB limit.
>>345191141
yeah it's super annoying
the double jump should be for reaching high places, but its just for spamming constantly to avoid getting hit
the average genji palyer probably presses space twice as much as LMB
> gets killed by roadhog
> cries on 4chan about it
lol
Will Soldier's nerf effect me if I just held down the click like a retard already? He'd my most used character but I am a total shitter.
Anyone notice there is a shit ton of hackers lately? I'm stuck in China and it's annoying.
>>345195160
he hasnt been 'nerfed' just bug fixed
>>345194923
That's the thing. It's not like he heals in the open and gets flash/hooked out of it. The grenade hits you at all, your healing is disabled for like 5-6 seconds. So you can be hooking someone, take some damage, get hit by the grenade and now that's it, your best bet is to fall back and wait around for the grenade to wear off.
>>345195223
fuck off retard.
its a nerf
>>345195160
no
>>345190025
>>345192967
>place 49
>drop down to almost 40
>after 2 weeks made it to 50 almost 51
60 soon and then I'll be decent. Getting better feels good but I still feel like I'm not giving as much damage as I should.climing out of 40s is PURE LUCK fuck what anybody says
I got a ranking of 61 from winning 7 games, and losing 2. Played mostly Reinhardt.
Is it good?
>>345195337
I got 44 from winning 7, rip
>>345195160
No. It only affects soldiers who constantly spam lmb for perfect accuracy.
A handy guide to playing streetpig:
1: aim near enemy, hit shift
2: left click until dead
3: press e, goto step 1
take it from me, i have over 1000 hours on rodhog
>>345192485
>split second snapping
>but not enough reaction to stop shooting a shielded opponent a second after they got it
???
>>345183316
Is "skill" the biggest overwatch meme.
>>345195337
Yes but it doesn't mean shit if you can't keep that rank. I got placed at 42 and I'm at 59 now. Everyone I've talked to who got put at above 60 has had an exceptionally hard time keeping it.
>>345194956
>Literally can't play Pharah anymore
>>345194663
MY DICK
>>345195876
(this wasn't even ptr)
>>345195876
It took 5 shots, I think this is pre-buff McCree, if someone can land 5 consecutive shots at that range then they deserve the kill, it would be extremely difficult.