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>no multiplayer
Why play it?
Because it looks like it will be interesting for at least a few hours.
i will wait a few weeks and see where it goes
and then decide if i want to pirate it
>>345140620
Cause multiplayer is cancer of video games
There is multiplayer. The universe is just so large that it's extremely unlikely that you'll see another player.
>>345140620
ive been waiting for a comfy simulator
So people can post this on launch day:
>omg check out this sick planet guys!!! 404594848x8404584 in the fucktard system
and thats basically it.
>>345141152
lol
>>345141152
steam literally says "Single-player"
>>345141152
but it's guaranteed that you will run into planets that other players have visited and you will be able to get to the center of the universe in span of a 20-30 hours
but no, not going to run into any other players....
someone is fucking bullshitting you
>>345140620
So I know I won't be bothered by MPfags
>>345140620
https://youtu.be/lirrplYoQ00
The music alone is worth it imo.
>>345141352
>I hate being bothered by people
>people suck
>I'm awesome
>>345141331
You can upload your discoveries online, so if a player is searching for something in particular he can check discovered planets to see if there's something of value on them.
No idea where you got that timeframe but sound about right, anyway I don't see the confusion, you saw the galactic map
>>345140620
In this digital world
what do we do?
>>345141752
Youre a dora
>>345140620
The possibility of spooky planets
>>345141152
I know you typed this to rustle some jimmies. Little rascal
>>345141182
Same. I just want a game that's comfy to play when killing time. No games entertain Mr anymore
>>345142542
Me* fucking christ
Maybe should wait to astroneer by unreal engine 4
>>345142119
>spooky planets
Not with that color palette
>>345140620
You can literally give someone your coordinates and have them come to your planet
>>345140620
This.
>>345141195
>holy shit this rock on planet 4894983r looks like a face if you look at it from a certain angle!!!! Everyone go check it out!!!
>>345142542
Does comfy mean boring now?
>>345140620
I want to be a pretend astronaut and explore the universe
>>345144350
The game is so fucking big that the likelihood of you running into any of the thousands of other people playing it is extremely slim and unlikely. How realistic do you think it is that you can guide a friend to your location, and how long it would take?
It's unreasonable as fuck, and not the way it was intended to be played, therefore does not cater to it.
imma wait till the nude mods come out
>>345141256
>the joke
>your head
>>345147750
I hope they have coordinates in the game.
>>345140620
Why not?
>>345140620
the whole point is having your own adventure, having someone else tag along makes it a lot less unique
>>345146940
and then no one will actually check it because no one know the coords or its just too far
>>345146940
The naming system doesn't allow swears or certain sequences. It probably won't allow it to be just numbers
>>345140620
>Another thread already
Thank you. I want that anon that thinks playing a game at the same time as another person is the equivalent of multiplayer.
>>345148293
because your name on random planet that no one will ever visit is more important than exploring with a friend
>>345148293
Holy shit some one actually gets it finally.
>>345148642
You're in the same universe in the same fucking server so it is.
is a COD m8 in this thread too? pls respond
>>345148293
>the whole point is about paying $60 for the latest cash grab shit game
>>345147047
im sure someone can patch in some waypoints and skinner boxes for you.
>>345148978
>Tfw playing Dragon's Dogma
>Tfw accessing server
>Tfw I'm playing multiplayer the whole time
>>345140620
the advertisement made it seem like every plant and animal will evolve different traits, so no planet will have similar looking animals, if this true? I doubt it
>the premise of the game is exploration
>except everything you're exploring is devoid of history, context or purpose
I'd get more fun out of exploring an abandoned house or a cemetery than this.
>>345149189
But anon, they made their own periodic table!
>>345149141
You're not just accessing the server in NMS you're IN the fucking thing.
>>345148293
>have your own adventure
Might as well just go outside
>>345148992
is that what we're calling him now?
all right
>>345149178
>procedurally generated
so yes
>>345149306
>you're IN the fucking thing
Oh shit nigger, the developers have made the matrix? Goddamn.
>>345148992
he's bound to rear his nu male beard
Is this game full price? If so I won't be getting it on launch but probably will when the price drops
>>345149397
>10 heads
>10 legs
>10 torsos
you think you can make enough combination for all these billions of planets?
>>345140620
well if it had good gameplay, for example the environment itself actually had a huge effect on the gameplay and the AI adapted to different scenarios and there was threats and interesting advanced technology to find... for example...yea, none of this exists in the game.
>>345149532
thought you were about to start preaching the end of the world
Can it be played offline?
>>345150229
what's the difference?
>>345150229
yes
>>345150229
it's possible but they might put a tiny one day wait for the crack padlock on it
>>345150229
>See that ship flying around? Bet you don't know if that's a player or NPC
>But my internet is disconnected
>Ehhh Destiny, ehhh mmos ehhh not about that
The argument to end all arguments.
You don't lose anything of the experience by skipping buying and playing the game and just watching 1 episode of a Let's Play channel where they discover the center of the map.
Let's face it, by the time you actually get there (benefit of the doubt that you don't just quit a few hours deep) it will have been spoiled for you anyhow.
what if day one the game is so bad people start aiming for the edge of the universe instead?
>mfw the System Reqs
OK, what's the catch?
>>345150567
There's nothing to do
>>345150413
I got nothin
>>345150597
>There's nothing to do
Your opinion is not legally recognized.
>>345150532
there is no edge, no center no actual dimension to the universe
it's just going to be procedurally generated crap that gets recycled and generated for each player in their own client, you're not going to be moving through space, planets and NPCs are just going to be produced for you after you have traveled
>>345150771
It's not an opinion anon
>>345140620
WHAT
DO
YOU
DO
IN
THE
GAME
>>345150895
it was explained multiple times in reviews, walking around and shooting rocks
>>345150895
Fly to generic planet #24551 and name generic mammal #64124
>>345148293
Then make it like Dark Souls where you can summon/join peoples games if you want, or play offline if that's your thing.
>>345151063
>>345151085
aaaaand, why would you spend $60 on this?
>>345150895
https://repo.nmsdb.info/
>>345140620
>60 bux for an idie game
Do I have to?
>>345140759
This is not a valid reason to purchase a game.
>>345151162
you entitled fuck, you think you could make a better game? fuck you
>>345151237
yes it is
>>345151162
Because you fell for the hype train
If I can get at least 20 hours out of it it's worth my purchase, I spend just as much on games and drop them before then.
But given what I do KNOW about the game, it should be somewhat up my alley, if lacking in some areas that would truly make it my kind of game.
That being said, really am gonna hold out and see some reviews and gameplay before I buy it.
>>345151248
Look m8. I gauge any game purchases based on if I will have fun or not playing the game. So far, this game doesn't seem worth $60. Until I see more, It's $30 at most.
repeating what another anon posted, but still logical
if 18 quintillion planet are only 1 byte each then the server will need nearly 19 million terabytes of hard drive space
>>345151419
more like $20 early access
>>345151438
storage is cheap as fuck now, they can afford, are you poor or something?
>>345151162
It sounds comfy. Sometimes I just want to go exploring in games and look at nice vistas and shit.
>>345150413
Thanks for saving me the gwop
>>345151573
>>345151248
you gotta work harder on your trolling, you're too easy to spot
>>345151604
you can do that in other games for free
>>345151689
at least im having fun, you cant stop me
>>345151438
And?
>>345151573
potatoes are cheap but a trillion potatoes is a lot of dough
>>345141152
More likely that there's so few people who will be playing it that it isn't likely you're going to find them :^)
>>345151696
Yeah, but I've got money, and I'd like to walk around in this particular game. I literally have no problem dropping $60 on a video game, even if it turns out to be shit and I only play it for 30 minutes. Maybe those free experiences you mentioned would be better, but I don't mind paying to try something out to see if they aren't.
I think a bigger question is, "Why are you concerned with how other people spend their money?"
I swear to god there was a trailer of multiple players all flying through a planet together.
>>345151864
Huh, I didn't think potatoes had dough in them
>>345151906
it's more likely he just lied about the possibility of meeting new players and the lobby bubble completely
>>345152028
you learn every day kiddo
>>345152025
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>>345152028
Haven't you ever had potato cakes?
>>345152025
it was a trailer of multiple NPCs flying through a planet together
but you never know anon, one of them could be another player
it is after all a multiplayer game
>>345152002
i dont care about your money, its your problem if you want to pay for something that is free not mine
/v/ wants a real multiplayer experience
>>345152428
COD fella, is that you?
>>345152318
Exactly. Feel free not to pay for the game if you feel it doesn't live up to your expectations of what $60 should buy you in terms of content. I just assumed that you were concerning yourself with why others would spend $60 on it because of your post.
>>345152428
there he is
>>345152318
theres no free game on the market that lets you land on planets with no loading times plus:procedural creatures, weapons,ships,ruins,cave systems soundtrack and creature noises. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>345152428
Is this Battleborn?
If it comes to redbox i'll probably rent it. But lack of multiplayer, or rather this "instanced multiplayer" shit made me immediately think of spore.
and everyone knows how spore turned out.
>>345152428
oh look it's codguy
>>345141152
so there might as well not be any
>>345152649
no, nobody has ever made the comparison before
holy shit youre blowing my mind over here
>>345152552
none of that even matters, you will see these animals for 5 minutes and then move on, you can 'play' space engine, minecraft or if you never played wow, just setup your own private server and explore azeroth by yourself, it has much more content to explore than you will ever get from nu males
>>345152802
so what?
why do you want me to go play another game?
why don't you do it instead?
>>345152798
I never said nobody else did, just that it's the immediate comparison I made.
Way to just out yourself as a shill there, bud. Defend the game some more, maybe they'll give you a review copy so you can play with everyone else and have none of your actions matter when you return to a planet in a week to find all your shit has been deleted.
>>345152934
but i do play these games
>>345141152
Please tell me some more developer taglines
>>345152802
Why the fuck would I want to play Wow? I just wanna play a game with more procedural aspects than just reskins and recolors like borderlands or minecraft. They obviously understand the mistakes of spore and other games that tried to half ass it.
>>345152798
He never said that nobody made the comparison before
go home shill
>>345152934
>why do you want me to go play another game?
dude calm down, you're in this thread by choice
>>345141331
>but it's guaranteed that you will run into planets that other players have visited
I thought they were saying that actually wasn't the case. At least it's not a normal occurrence. And there was some statistic like in the first year all players will collectively only discover 10% of the planets or some shit.
>>345153093
>I just wanna play a game with more procedural aspects than just reskins and recolors like borderlands or minecraft
So you don't want to play No Man's Sky?
>>345152992
>le shill
god anon you are really on a roll with the original posts
>>345140620
so if you do run into someone, can you fight each other?
>>345153267
you won't
from what I've gathered the game isn't even strictly multiplayer
>>345153160
More like 0.00001%....
>>345153226
Minecraft and borderlands had a procedural soundtrack and creature sounds?
>>345153383
>Ellipsis
leave
>>345153093
minecraft is less reskin than nu males
>>345153345
eh aren't you supposed to be in a huge universe with other players? i'm not just baiting either i'm seriously asking.
>>345153459
>procedural soundtrack
people honestly consider this a selling point?
>>345153267
there is pvp
but everything goes on about how unlikely finding someone is
like in an attempt to not get peoples hopes up they even have it listed as a single player game on steam
there IS online features and you COULD MAYBE run into someone, but dont count on it
>>345153530
so is there no such thing as coordinates? i can't tell my buddy, hey i'm at x and y, let's meet up. none of that huh?
>>345153521
Haven't seen it in a 60$ game before so yeah. Plus if theres that many planets there cant just be an hour long soundtrack idiot. Same with the creature sounds.
>>345147047
I mean Truck simulator is considered comfy so yeah
>>345153519
nah, from the hints, generation and structure it'll be more like you play single player but the procedural generation constitutes a part of a "universe" or the total of all possible procedural generated worlds.
I guess the closest comparison would be a leaderboard/kill tracker but for planets.
They might add multi later I don't know.
>>345153629
you are at X, your buddy is at Y, it will take 4 years of real time to get there, now try to reach him
>>345153530
But it is online? Everyone's in the same universe. It just doesn't fit the multiplayer death-match definition of online that people want it to be.
>>345153459
>procedural soundtrack and creature sounds
>>345152165
>it is after all a multiplayer game
>>345150895
explore
gather materials
craft
upgrade your equipment and ship
trade
space fight
forge alliances with factions
go to the center of the universe
>>345153681
do you think they're going for the "the less we talk about it the more they will appreciate all the content"?
>>345153734
>real time
nigga get the fuck out. devs didn't say that did they?
>>345153814
>generating new music on the fly
Of course its not literally creating new music constantly. Its the same way the creatures are procedural by taking the base parts and morphing them around to create diversity.
>>345153916
theres is no teleport option and galaxy is huge, it will be exactly like that
>>345153916
>do you think they're going for the "the less we talk about it the more they will appreciate all the content"?
yeah definitely that's what he's doing in the interviews
but probably more because they need the money
if they stay vague the hype kiddies will disillusion themselves into thinking it's more than it is
I can understand that, I mean a man's gotta eat, but we'll see if it comes back to bite them in the ass.
But with how short of a memory the gaming community has I think they'll be fine when the rage settles in 5-7 years or they might try a name switch/studio rebrand.
>>345154071
eh i was really hoping there'd be no teleport option. didn't they show them going like light speed or some shit? so the devs confirmed that it will take real time in order to reach someone at a potential spot?
>>345154176
I think they're also doing it to avoid becoming spore 2.
People still hyping themselves up though, I feel sorry for them desu
they're gonna be spore 2 and there's nothing they can do about it at this point
>>345153916
No they're just trying to not spoil everything before the game comes out. Its a risk because you get people like you who want to see the whole thing but the payoff is that people like me who will buy the game day one will be suprised by things they haven't shown, For example how theres procedural ruins and temples they haven't shown any of that but I know its in the game by doing my research. Most people are just misinformed about the game and have done no research hence the recolors argument thats endlessly posted.
>>345154212
they almost confirmed that you will never meet people you want to meet, maybe, MAYBE some random people near your location
>>345154176
man i honestly got hyped when this was announced. i really enjoyed the concept and idea of "infinite possibilities" then it sank in on how that is pretty much impossible.
>>345154071
>theres is no teleport option
jump drive is essentially teleport, but from what I've heard the game uses some kind of advanced location parameters. Probably relative floating point numbers in system, which might make it essentially impossible to travel between star systems manually.
I remember KSP having problems with it because they used static location and the large numbers would fuck up some gravity calculations.
>>345154337
one can always hope they add some kind of meetup functionality
co-op would be fucking great
>>345154427
Don't give up hope anon! This is our only chance at a legitimate space game like this if they fail no one will ever trust any big risks again. Other attemps like star citizen or elite just pussied out and turned into early access cash grab mmos. Hello Games only gets one shot since there not some huge company with infinite funds, hell they didn't even take any money or help from Sony they just helped them with marketing.
>>345154691
that's going to be the most likely option if it ever gets implemented
kind of an x-man server kind of thing
but I'm not sure they have the experience in-studio to figure it out
>>345154691
>>345154764
they wont ever do that, if they wanted player communication they would implement it, network code is there, its up to them to use it, meanwhile theres not even a chat available
>>345154753
i still have a little bit of hope. when i was watching E3 with my family and a few friends i was literally the only one hyped at the idea. but yeah let's hope the high risk high reward thing actually pays off.i really wanted a be a good guy or space pirate kind of deal. not a "oh sorry you're only a lame ass explorer that gets to name shit
>>345155036
theres a dozen of them and their focus is to publish a working product. extra shit is cost prohibitive.
they have made it known that they are not opposed to updating the game depending on its success.
obviously no one knows what will or wont be added, but i don't think its outside the realm of possibility
>>345155246
so when will they patch it? manoth after release? 2 months? half year? no one will be playing it at all after this time
>>345155246
this
my guess is they're strapped for time, manpower and cash right now
implementing multiplayer would require at least 6 more months of full time development to make it reliable and integrate it with the current product
My guess is it was a resource and design decision from the start to cut multi.
Nothing wrong about that, but I can predict some people are going to lose their spaghetti when they figure out they can't gank their way through the galaxy.
>>345155448
enjoy multiplayer on a dead server after these 6 months
The game uses a lobby system where everyone gets their own lobby alone for 99% of the time.
If another player manages to get close enough you will both be in the same lobby and have a still minuscule chance of finding them ever.
Even if you were to go to the same planet you probably would never find each other unless you tried for a few hours-days.
>>345155568
who knows, hype kiddies have a tendency to stick to their guns even if they're having no fun whatsoever
>>345155246
Man, there would be a hell of a lot less shitposting if he just said something like this
>No, we don't have it right now. However, depending on how successful we are we may look into adding this as a feature later on.
>>345140620
Wait, WHAT??? THERE IS NO MULTIPLAYER? Are you kidding me now? All those planets and you are alone?
>>345155685
they would lose an inordinate amount of sales
and when that's done they have to have enough cash for their next project
>>345155649
most of the time these kiddies stick because of multiplayer, no one plays single player for more than a month
>>345155884
you have no idea man, self-deception is a powerful thing
>>345155740
>They would lose sales
I feel that they wouldn't lose too many sales. The comparison is odd, but I'd like to think that many people purchased games such as Stardew Valley, Don't Starve or even early access such as Lego Worlds in anticipation of multiplayer being added.
Multiplayer is the only reason for games to exist. If I can't 360 noscope noobs how will anyone know I'm pro?
>>345156004
if you have something to do then maybe, but thats not the case here
>>345155716
That's kind of the point. Just because it's first person doesnt mean it has to be a HALO. This is a game for quiet introverts and curious minds who like the idea of having a lonely adventure. Just you and the universe. For people who enjoyed Metroid Prime etc.
>>345156127
codguy please go
Your argument doesn't make any sense and never will
>>345155632
sounds like the dev is full of shit
>>345156296
Not just shit, "Procedurally Generated Shit"
>>345141152
But that's a specific detail that isn't open to shitposting. Its much easier to just generalize that it doesn't count as multiplayer if I'm not guaranteed to encounter someone at all times.
>>345155685
i mean, they did say that generally speaking
wait is that true, i thought it was kinda like elite dangerous
>>345155740
If true, I like that idea. Imagine playing 50 hours alone and then you see another player for the first time. It's rare and unusual. Makes it really special.
>>345140620
>>345140620
Minecraft dont have multiplayer and is huge in populatiry since 2010
>no multiplayer
>no story
>all randomly generated bullshit
This is the future you choose.
If even CoD was a board game, this would be sitting in the corner rolling a pair of dice by yourself.
I don't understand what the appeal would be in multiplayer, so if it was multiplayer why would I play it?
>>345156512
Unfortunately in every other interview he's danced around the subject, said something stupid about how big the game is to deflect, etc.
>>345156512
what are the possibilities of these worlds actually having growing and evolving ecosystems? fuck if that could be promised like some sort of new A.I. i'd shit myself. no such luck on that being a thing though.
>Mario Maker
>Hugely successful
>Single player
>Minecraft
>Hugely successful
>Single player
What is with the sudden stigma against single player games?
>>345141152
The universe doesn't have to be large, 2 weeks in there'll be absolutely no one playing it anyway.
>>345156791
>minecraft
>singleplayer
>>345156631
it's a 20$ game sold for 60
too bad, if it was more reserved it might have ended well
I wonder how much sleep Sean loses over the release date, he doesn't seem like a psychopath
>>345156650
To make gathering resources less of a chore.
Thats literally it, to eventually be able to build a ship for 2 a la star wars and have great fun.
As it stands its just a resource gathering game with procedural content and npc factions that you cant communicate with unless you play for weeks just to maybe get one factions language.
>>345156628
It does though
>>345156791
People want MMORPG experiences in every game because true mmorpgs are dead or themeparks
>>345156747
>what are the possibilities of these worlds actually having growing and evolving ecosystems
zero
planet status is reset when you leave the atmosphere as stated int he live play interview
>>345156747
Theres ecosystems in the game with predators and shit but they arent evolving. One cool thing though is the creature ai is procedural as well so some will come down to lakes to drink during certain times in the day and predators can have schedules and come out at night or day kinda like in real life.
>REDDIT WILL HAVE A MEET UP
>WE WON'T
>REDDIT WILL FIND COOL SHIT AND POST ABOUT IT
>4CHAN WILL MAKE FUN OF THEM FOR PLAYING A VIDEO GAME
>REDDIT WILL ENJOY
>4CHAN WILL WALLOW IN SELF DETERMINED SUPERIORITY
I HATE THIS PLACE.
>>345157042
>REDDIT WILL HAVE A MEET UP
not in NMS since there's no multiplayer
feel free to go back whence you came
>>345156791
but both of those are only popular for their multiplayer elements
>>345156792
>The universe doesn't have to be large
I suggest you spend the rest of the time you have left arguing with google definitions then, as the very definition of universe is about its massive size.
You pretty much just said that "a dozen doesn't have to mean more then one"
>>345157042
>REDDIT WILL HAVE A MEET UP
Doesnt work that way bud, there will be no meetups.
And if you didnt realise your already there, we will have "meetups" in the generals and this game will get shitposted for at least two months after launch. Shitposted means be popular
>>345157001
no its not. Its thrown away when your their to save space but its reloaded exactly the same as you left it when you come back. So if you kill a bird and leave for a year and come back to that same planet itll still be there.
>>345151237
>purchase
Nigga who said anything about buying it, I'm talking about playing it.
>>345156973
That's stupid. MMORPG's are stupid, and its even more stupid to want every game to be like them.
>>345157154
not what the main dev said
>>345157042
>/vg/ will have meet up (they wont but shitposting obliges)
>we won
>/vg/ will find cool shit and post about it
>/v/ will make fun of them for playing games
>/vg/ will enjoy
>/v/ will wallow in self determined superiority
>>345157154
Nope, that already said otherwise.
The prob;em with this game is a solid lack of clear communication. Things are confirmed and deconfirmed every other interview.
>>345157151
THE GAME HAS MULTIPLAYER, THEY SAID THAT THERE ARE COORDINATES AND PLAYERS CAN MEET UP, IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO BE RARE AT CHANCE
THE CHANCE GOES AWAY WHEN YOU CAN TYPE IN COORDINATES AND MAKE YOUR WAY THERE.
>>345157230
No you just misinterpreted what he said. Dear god just do your research
>>345157306
I agree that some things things arent clearly communicated for the sake of suprise but to suggest that planets reset after you leave is just flat out wrong.
>>345157454
[Citation needed]
>>345157318
>he doesnt know
Everyone starts at the edge of the universe, the farthest possible point from each other. It will take actual weeks for even 2 people to make there way towards each other unless 1 gets lucky and gets a mega warp drive early as fuck because lol lucky planets.
Without luck you will be alone in the vastness for ever. Even if you found others and went to a specific planet you still have to navigate an entire planet I mean ENTIRE planet, maybe smaller than earth maybe larger, to find a single person.
Even with all that theres still the problem that if they are flying in a ship they are indistinguishable from npcs
>>345140620
Why do people keep saying this meme when they've stated there is multiplayer and you'll be able to see what planet your friends are on you'll just have to spend a lot of fucking time getting to that planet and finding where exactly on the planet he is?
>>345157584
COORDINATES MAP THE STARS, DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE.
>>345157339
>No you just misinterpreted what he said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uMFHoF8VA
15:18 for the bit where he crushes your hopes and dreams
>>345157454
>but to suggest that planets reset after you leave is just flat out wrong
Not according to the lead dev fuckwad.
>hurr nuh uh my interview is more right than urs
The dev is one of the vaguest motherfuckers out there and even if you can get past that he has actually contradicted himself multiple times sometimes even in the same interview when confronted about saving/multiplayer/size of the game/and the possibility of other universes.
>>345157719
>COORDINATES MAP THE STARS
>all meet up at the same star
>its a fuckhuge solar system with 20+ planets and many times more moons
>still never find anyone
>>345157630
because none of that is in the game
>>345157742
I believe the gist is that there are elements of planets that a player can influence and alter permanently, but most changes, like blowing a cave out of a mountain, will reset after a time.
So it's a little of both.
>>345157825
PLANET SECTOR Z-1323435634
PLANET A
FUCK BITCHES GET PAID.
so can you build shit in this game or is it just gather materials and poop out ships for more exploration?
>>345157887
Steam listing 3 properties does not define parameters. The game is not advertised as multiplayer because that's not what they want people to be thinking about. It's a small thing that likely won't happen for a long time post release, and won't have significant interaction.
>>345157201
I hope it has Denuvo or you get a virus like you deserve anon.
>>345158036
the only thing you can build is upgrades for your ship, weapons and armor
>>345158036
>Survival crafting game
Nah nigger this is an exploration """""""""""""game"""""""""""""
>>345157887
>He things those tags counter what the devs themselves have said is in the game
>>345158036
The second one.
Zero base building only moving more and more forwardthrough the same procedural shit
>>345157729
Nigger he says if he flys back down everything will be regenerated the same. Jesus christ
>>345158089
>>345158145
do we know any of their plans for the future?
>>345140620
ho fuck seriously? nah im fine. maybe when its $15
>>345140620
>nu-male's sky
why play it?
>>345158171
fine, you're not very good at language
consider contacting a special ed teacher for your needs
>>345158223
they don't have any they're sitting on the fence about expanding it until release happens
if it's a sensation obviously they'll continue with it, but let's be real here that won't happen
>>345158265
>that 3rd grade burn
>>345157742
This is all because the secret at the middle of the universe is unlocking other galaxy's to explore. So he doesnt want to say galaxy because that confirms that there are multiple galaxys you can go to once you get to the center of the first one. Why he doesn't answer the multiplayer question well is because technically there is multiplayer so he cant say that there isnt, but the odds of you seeing someone else super low but not literally zero.
>>345140620
>That kiddyshit aesthetic
WTF? I'm playing on PlayStation, not Nintendo. Why do games insist on kiddy art styles if the devs are aiming at adults? Piss off shill.
>>345158265
You have literally no idea what your talking about dude. Ive seen so many people ask this same question and its been disproven by the devs. Why the fuck would everything reset after you left? Just think for a second
>>345158347
Getting mixed reviews would never convince them to drop a game entirely. They'll receive MASSIVE amounts of sales for this game on the initial hype alone.
You can only expect expanding of the studio for further development of the game.
t. someone who knows nothing about this shit game
>>345158512
do you know what regenerated means?
>>345158145
Literally nothing in any of the game play videos has been recycled shit. It's all different.
Dunno where you fags are getting the whole "it's procedural so everything will look the same" bullshit idea.
>>345158640
They think handcrafted is the only option.
They think we're still stuck in the 1998 era of Daggerfall-style procedural generation.
>>345158605
Shut the fuck up http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/739857-no-mans-sky/73649009
>>345158605
He's trying to explain how procedural generation works. He said somewhere else that small changes are saved locally, while big changes are saved for everyone.
>>345158036
>can you build shit in this game
>or is it just building ships
You can build ships. So yes, you can build things.
>>345158893
did you seriously post a gamefaqs forum thread as a source even though it still supports my argument?
>>345159006
I love how the more actual information is posted in the threads the shitposters start to disappear. Like this dude is just gonna stop posting and never admit that he was proven wrong
>>345158640
>Quintilian stars
>many many times more planets
>less than 6gb of assets
How many suns are similar? Those will generate similar planets with similar atmospheres, how many of these similar planets will have similar wildlife and plantlife?
A lot.
>but they showed different sutffi n the interviews and trailers
No shit, they arent going to show that most of the game is samey bullshit until much after its out.
I hope the vast majority of planets in the game are dedworlds.
>>345159154
the right response was on page 2 of the thread the first guy was just as braindead as you are
>>345159207
Are you seriously using this argument? The same thing could be said for our universe IRL, idiot.
Given the size of our universe, there's a lot of suns and planets similar to ours too. How many planets in our universe have similar life, then?
You're dumb as shit.
>>345159539
Kys nintenchild
>>345159154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjKTJblJpw0&feature=youtu.be
26:20
Why can't you people just wait until the game comes out to form an opinion? Holy shit, just have a tiny bit of patience!
Will this be as boring as Spore's space stage?
>>345140620
I'll get it when it's in the bargain bin for 75% off
>>345158046
>They don't want people thinking the game is about that
Oh man, you literally cannot make this shit up.
>>345159584
I don't even play Nintendo games or own any of their consoles anymore, faggot. Good argument tho.
>>345159743
That's basically a quote from Sean Murray. They don't want people to see a "multiplayer" tag and buy it expecting to play with friends, then get in and be disappointed because it's such a small and rare chance, there's no point in looking good forward to that. They want people to know it and experience it as a single player game.
>>345140620
fuck multiplayer, i just want my autism simulator. if i ever meet a lone soul by any chance, i'll make sure to stay away.
>>345159413
holy shit I'm laughing so hard
I'm going to piss my pants when this game gets released and the salty tears start flowing.
It literally came out of the dev's mouth: "Now I've flown away from that planet everything is thrown away. If I fly back down everything will be regenerated. All those creatures all the terrain all he trees grass everything."
I've seen denial before but WOOOOOOOOOOOW
bravo
>>345159636
delusions, powerful indeed
>>345159974
>They don't want people to be disappointed
This is not how this works you retard. Steam, GOG, PSN, Xbox Store and all those store fronts put tags based upon what content the game offers. If they put single player, that means that it's single player. If they put multiplayer, that means that is as such. If they put both, that means there are options to play with others or by yourself somehow.
Inb4 something about steam and GOG are just incorrect.
>>345160081
>autism is now a good thing and accepted on /v/
im sad now
>>345160182
Bro what part about it being both, do you not understand. Yes, those changes will revert and are not saved, but there still are things you CAN change permanently that other players can see.
>>345160256
Multiplayer is not a core aspect or anything to pay attention to. It's insignificant and incredibly rare. There is no point in false advertising with a multiplayer tag, because when people think of multiplayer, they dont think of the kind that NMS has, they think off game lobbies or MMO type multiplayer, which this does not have.
>>345160482
>False advertising
Ah, okay. So multiplayer doesn't actually exist. Thanks for agreeing with me.
>Nothing will beat comfy minecraft beta cave exploring with a fried
>you'll weep tears in the vacuum of space
There better be references to 2001: space odyssey
>>345160593
I feel like its the same few people in everyone one of these threads spouting this shit about the devs lying about multiplayer and then getting into an argument with someone about the technicality's of it. I will say though its great shitpost bait
>>345160795
What's even better shitpost bait is
>Saying the universe is so giant seeing people is rare
>Saying it's unique and never done before
>Comparing the game to MMOs
>>345160593
Not as you think of multiplayer, no. But you can interact with other players because it's all a single universe server.
>>345160282
>now
>>345140620
because I like confy single player games
>>345160883
>But you can interact with other players
Source.
No mutliplayer for this kind of game? Seriously?
Welp, day 1 pirate.
>>345160968
Jesus, really? There will be a multiplayer lobby everyone carries around, and in the very slim chance you cross paths with another player, you will be in their lobby and can see them, etc.
Just watch or read any of the interviews.
>>345161050
it'll take at least a day to crack it because it'll be using login servers
>>345161050
>this type of game
>>345161076
>No source
k.
>Everyone sucks subnauticas dick
>This game is basically subnautica in space and its bad for some reason
>>345161169
>being this dumb
Its on GoG and is payable offline. No activation required
>>345160882
see your doing it right now lol. And then im supposed to reply with some paragraph and you'll just keep shitposting. I dont doubt that your very good at it seeing as thats all there is to do on /v/. Cant wait till the games out so I can just be comfy playing it and you guys can keep arguing in these threads. :^)
>>345161269
you can build things in subnautica
also ocean > space in this instance
>>345161269
People like being alone and scared in the deep ocean.
People like playing space games with friends because of all the space.
>>345161257
Not gonna spoofed you, little babby. I think there's sources in this thread already. You can open a tab and check any of the interviews on youtube. Don't be a cunt.
Beside, it's much more fun to fact check a claim for yourself, then rub it in their faces if they're wrong.
>>345161371
>being this arrogant
it'll require a login once
>>345161269
Subnautic has building, more indepth crafting, and satisfactory combat.
>>345161424
But there can ocean sized oceans on the planets? With actual aliens in them. Its really a better subnautica without the minecraft base building meme
>>345161424
you can build in no mans sky too, they specifically stated ship upgrades and base shit
>>345161510
>im an idiot
>>345161559
And ittl be a finished product lol. But neo-/v/ loves defending micro transactions and early access games so w/e
>>345161546
The base building in Subnautica is pointless except for aesthetics and resource storage/farming fish.
It's better to just stack everything in a cyclops and use it as a mobile base.
>>345161636
>base shit
Nope.
>>345161636
base building is not in the game tho
but never mind, it'll be cleared up in the release
>>345161729
lmao
the shills don't even know anything about the game they're shilling
>>345161394
>Some paragraph
You mean the pasta you have saved about how innovative and unique the game is, and that nobody has ever done anything like it before, and that multiplayer is actually there but they just don't want to advertise it because that's totally not the point. That paragraph?
>>345161491
>Spoonfeed
I love it. I love that you can't provide a source and are now damage controlling. Tell me about how big the game is now.
>>345161729
thx btw
>>345161865
Yeah.
>>345161865
Yeah it's spoonfeeding you, because like a baby, you're incapable of feeding yourself, so you want mommy or daddy to get some food on the spoon, and guide it toward your chubby little mouth while you sit there and throw a tantrum, you little faggot.
Grow up, open a tab, check out an interview either text or video, realize what I said was correct, then shut the fuck up.
Your b8 is excellent, btw.
>>345161812
>The base building in Subnautica is pointless except for aesthetics and resource storage/farming fish.
>"Building a base is pointless unless you want to use it for what they're meant for."
Do you even know what you just typed?
>>345140620
>half life has no multiplayer, why play it
>>345162073
The point is they're redundant, you don't need a base for resource storage or fish farming.
>>345162051
this is some tryhard shit right here, quite a sight to behold
>>345162134
>Half Life has no story
:^)
>>345162134
Yeah it does.
>>345162161
Am I trying hard, or is the one with the non-stop bait posts trying hard?
>>345162051
>Makes claim
>Okay, prove claim
>No, go do it yourself
Heh
>>345162134
>A sandbox without multiplayer
>Minecraft without multiplayer
>Garry's Mod without multiplayer
>A box of fucking Legos without multiplayer
Sounds great.
>>345162339(you)
>>345162263
>I need a preset narrative to enjoy escapism in another universe
>>345162371
It does.
>>345162134
Because it has a story, characters, a narrative, combat, voice acting, goals, puzzles, and so on.
Pretty much Half Life had gameplay and an incentive to keep playing.
>>345162356
>he thinks I made a claim instead of just parroting one already made by the developers of the game
>pretending I need to back up a game dev's claim
Toppest of keks, bitch nigger.
>>345162479
You'd probably like an offline version of 4chan too.
>>345140620
>no multiplayer
dropped, waiting for star citizen
>>345162554
Offline 4chan would have significantly less shitposting thats for sure. Jesus christ no one in this thread has anything better to do including me :/
>>345162134
>half life is the same thing as no man's sky
STOP REPLYING
>>345162549
In multiple interviews the lead developer has stated there actually is no multiplayer, the sandbox universe is singleplayer and there will never any contact between any players.Prove me wrong
>>345162554
I read books.
>>345162686
see you in 2056 when islam has taken over the world
>>345162691
There would be no posting at all. There would only be you left to your own devices. Sounds lonely and depressing. I understand some people want to be hermits, but don't drag the rest of us down to your level.
>>345142542
>le comfy meme
I hope you die in the most excrutiating way possible, pondscum.
>>345162892
So a self-contained story and experience like Half Life? Cool.
>>345141152
>it's a "Sean Murray blatantly lies about multiplayer" episode
You've been smeckledorfed.
>>345163014
you're not shitting on books are you anon?
>>345163078
No, I'm saying there's a difference between books and blank diaries.
>>345162845
I've seen every interview and he says no such thing.
I don't get the hype for games like this, I mean I get that there's going to be randomly generated shit to look at, but I feel due to the fact it's all procedurally generated using algorithms it's going to be pretty limited.
I mean nothing is made with intention so the majority of shit you're going to be looking at is just random assets thrown together, and this sense of "Congrats u found random combination of assets #305632567" doesn't really do it for me.
There's not much there for me that I couldn't get from just pressing "Randomise" in an elder scrolls character creation screen over and over again.
>>345163162
When you buy a diary, it is blank. You fill it with whatever you want. By yourself.
>>345163206
I said prove me wrong.
>>345163432
But typically when writing a novel you'll have editors, and writing for any other genre an entire department of writers.
>>345163337
That's great. The game isn't for you. Kindly fuck off, then.
>>345163432
hard to fill your diary if you're doing jack all every day
>>345163569
Then do something.
>>345163206
The website states "They’re exploring the same vast universe in parallel" this is not multiplayer.
Everyone has access to the same set of planets however it's all parallel instances, if they fuck around with a planet it is imitated in your own safe space, however there is no way you can see or interact with them.
>>345163337
It's the first time console owners are being beholden to such a game.
>>345163554
"Wah, I don't like seeing opinions that aren't the same as mine"
Go fucking buy a diary baby.
>>345163684
>day 1 saw two horned dogs harvested carbon, built gun upgrade
>day 2 saw 6 legged dog, harvested silicon, built ship upgrade
,,,
>day 7 uninstall.exe
>>345156446
>he thinks 'maybe one day if you're lucky, you'll see another player' is a multiplayer experience
The devs have all but outright stated you should expect to play this game alone. This is a specific detail that is apparently wide-open for naive hypekiddies to ignore.
>>345163471
Fine.
http://gamerant.com/no-mans-sky-no-multiplayer/
>>345163912
>Two years ago
I said prove me wrong.
>>345154753
>If you don't buy x we won't get y!
Most bullshit damage control.
Give me a good reason to buy this piece of shit or fuck off.
>>345163702
It's one giant universe server. The closest comparison would be DarkSouls' message system or Terraria system.
>>345163776
>this game isn't my cup of tea
Is not an opinion on the game. You're absolutely free to make a statement saying the game isn't for you, but after that, nothing needs to be said. You're obviously not interested, so why discuss anything? Thanks for your post, now kindly fuck off.
>>345163992
>time is relevant here
I did prove you wrong.
Keep moving the go
>>345164240
>but after that, nothing needs to be said
there's plenty of opportunities to say how shit the game is
>>345164240
>Terraria system
I legitimately want to hear what you come up with here.
>>345164320
>So you are saying that if my friend travels to the same place I am at, we could play together for a while?
>Ehh, no, that's not what I'm saying
>March 10, 2016
https://youtu.be/1ORFgfhj_hM?t=3m55s
>>345164389
It's less shit that whatever game you love and that's a fact
>>345164389
You have not played it, so no there is not.
If you wanna be like /tv/ and judge shit before it's even out, then by all means, display your faggotry for us to laugh at.
They better surprise me with the diversity the planets can have. I am not impressed by it so far. Every planet they've shown looks similar as fuck, low hills, flat terrain, small ponds with few fishes. I want truly phantasmagoric stuff, like huge and deep underground caverns, tunnel systems to the very core, building bases beneath the planet's crust, and/or being able to build stuff within the planets' atmospheres on clouds and so on. But the scale will not allow this I think. Every time they have left a planet, they instantly zip into space. It sucks as fuck.
>>345164496
no in fact it's just about as bad ad the game you like
also you're probably sucking a dick right now
>>345164240
We're on a video game discussion board.
I seriously recommend buying yourself a diary and removing yourself from social situations where you may encounter other people's opinions.
>>345140620
>if it doesn't have multiplayer it's automatically shit
t. 12-year old CoD fan
>>345153657
Why not? I'd rather have an hour of good music on shuffle than a program capable of noodling for eternity.
>>345153657
88 keys on a piano, infinite combination of key presses
99.9% of it will sound like shit.
>>345164542
It'll be like pre-alpha Minecraft
>>345164743
It depends on the game.
>>345164472
Oh wow that direct misquote to change the context of what he said to fit your narrative, cool.
Here's everything verbatim, you little lying niggercunt: "So you are saying that if a friend travels to the same place I am at, we could play together for a while?"
SM: "No that's not really what the game is about. It's not like...again with that, when you talk about multiplayer I think it just gives the wrong impression. Like I said, that's not what we're trying to build...it's not what people should be thinking about"
He's not saying you can't interact with other players somehow, he's not saying no multiplayer. He's saying that being able to just play along with another player is not *really* what the multiplayer is about, because the word gives the wrong impression. It's not traditional multiplayer, it's a whole new thing.
>>345165206
>In his first sentence he says no, and in his second sentence he says that he wants to make a single player game
What's so difficult to understand, shill-kun?Congratulations on being the first shill to actually go through the effort of spinning him directly saying no.
>>345164743
Most games without multiplayer have a pretty self-evident reason why that's not the case. This game doesn't have that.
>>345164653
So explain to me why you're in a thread about a game you don't care to play then? Because there's only one reason, and that's to shitpost about what you don't like, and that's not constructive for anyone. You're just baiting. Now if you were interested, but still had criticism, then we can discuss.
HOWEVER, your argument is like if I walked into a book club about 50 shades of grey, and started shit talking it and saying how much I didn't care for it, I shouldn't expect the members of that book club to tell me, rightly, to fuck off if I have no interest in it.
You wanna be here with your opinions? Fine, but don't expect people to not reply.
>>345141752
Wow look a planet!
Digital dino's
Digital plants, boy this is fun
>>345165357
>no that's not really what the game is about means absolutely no, that can't happen
NO. It not *really* being about "multiplayer" is not a confirmation of no multiplayer. It's a confirmation that multiplayer as we think of it is not in the game, but it still has a type of multiplayer.
No Man's Sky is not an MMO
While it does feature multiplayer, it does not affect gameplay at all. The offline experience will be almost exactly the same as the online experience
Friends will show on the galactic map
You will be able to see other players
Only a few people can be seen at one time. If lots of people converge on an area, then you will only see a few of them
Most planets will not have life
It is estimated that 90% of planets will not have any form of life on them at all
Of the 10% of planets that have life, 90% of those will be boring and primitive
This means the lush garden worlds that have more evolved lifeforms will be rare, and more valuable
>spending 60 dollars on this shit game
>>345165206
But just playing along with another player is what people want. Saying it's totally going to blow away our outmoded paradigms of what makes a game multiplayer is wishful retardation of the highest order and still isn't even remotely satisfying to the people complaining.
>>345165759
>Most planets will not have life
this is a good thing tho
still gonna be a shit game tho
>>345165670
Oh god, you're dedicated to this spinning
>So you're saying I can play with my friend?
>Ehh, no that's not what I'm saying
Keep spinning that into saying that you can actually play with others. I'm enjoying your dedication.
>warp into an uninhabited system far, far away
>establish a frontier outpost on a world with life
>player warps into system and establishes his on outpost on another planet
>he starts trying to take your resources
>you guys clash for a couple days
>decide that you gotta find help
>backtrack into a more populated sector to find people to join you
>return with group, only to discover that the other guy did the same exact thing
>start having totally inconsequential system-wide battles for your "claimed" fragment of the vast galaxy
coulda been coo
>>345165843
This game was never about what people wanted, it was a game about what Sean Murray wanted, and you can either accept that or not.
No one said it was going to blow away outdated paragdims of multiplayer. It will simply be a different kind of multiplayer that doesn't fit what we usually think of.
>>345166257
>It will simply be a different kind of multiplayer that doesn't fit what we usually think of.
Then it's not multiplayer.
>>345166150
Go play EVE.
>>345165475
Don't get a boner man, I gave my thoughts on the game and you started having some aspie panic attack.
Your question though, it's a question asking "Why play it?" I gave my opinion on why I would not play it. It's constructive, if you don't hear opinions differing from your own then you'll never develop your own beliefs and understanding of them.
The idea was for you to reply with a counter argument to my point, well thought out and demonstrating your own opinion in contrast to mine.
However you started drooling on the keyboard and smearing shit on the screen.
Please attempt to put more effort into debating opinions in future, you might enjoy your time on this imageboard better.
>>345166337
Yeah, but there's HUGE difference between a practically infinite galaxy and a game world with only 3,000 solar systems.
>>345165615
>Wow, look, a sun
>Wow, look, a spaceship
>Wow, look, a gun
>Wow, look, nothing new
>Nothing new...
>>345165928
I'm not spinning anything. IT'S ALL VERY CLEAR.
Multiplayer, as in, playing with your friends avatar next to you, picking up resources, or fighting animals, is not what is here. It gives the wrong impression. There is multiplayer, but it's. It like how you think. How hard is this to understand?
>>345166314
It's still multiple players playing at the same time on the same server. Words have multiple meanings and multiplayer doesn't just mean one thing
Can I find a planet of Amazonian Space Babes in this game?
>>345166150
>warp into an uninhabited system far, far away
>establish a frontier outpost on a world with life
>player warps into system and establishes his on outpost on another planet
>he starts trying to take your resources
>explain to him the game literally has quintillions of systems and there is no real reason there needs to be any fighting at all
>he leaves and nothing happens
Eve struggles for a consistent stream of player-content with just a few thousand systems.
You sound like some Star Citizen day dreamer.
>>345166628
Star Citizen will be much, much smaller than Eve Online.
It looks boring as fuck, but if comes toPSVRI may pick it up.
>>345166614
>It's still multiple players playing at the same time on the same server. Words have multiple meanings and multiplayer doesn't just mean one thing
Fuck off with your relativist language normativity. Certain words have fixed meanings in given contexts. Multiplayer incontestably means one and only one thing when it comes to video games.
>>345148293
And of course these fuckers reply with detracting posts. Truth does that.
>>345166438
Yes, there's actually a limited number of resources that one might have motivation to fight over. I could foresee a way in which you could make it work even with practically infinite planets, but you're inventing a square wheel by doing so.
>>345151237
wew
>>345166813
So does bullshit, Captain Platitude.
>>345166338
Because I think we're all a little tired of giving personal reasons we want to play it, and having the replies from people like you, who are uninterested, being "I just don't see how you could want to do that", and that's the point. You can't see why anyone would want to, even if we gave reasons, and we can't see why you wouldn't want to, even tho you gave reasons.
You're inferring a little bit too much of the tone of my posts. Just like you cannot understand what makes people want to play this, I cannot understand why someone uninterested wants to waste his time debating a topic he has no interest in. It just goes against common sense or common decency, and the fact I have to explain this to you, wasting my time, is just further kindling on the pyre.
I want to play it because I enjoy walking around game world's looking at new, cool things, crafting, collecting, exploring.
Know how I play Elder Scrolls games? Fuck the content and quests. I make a character and run around collecting shit from corpses or chests, and exploring the world looking at shit and gathering mats for crafting. I do this for weeks before I touch the quests or story.
There's a lot of people who do this type of stuff, and NMS is basically that, but very vast.
If that doesn't interest you, why discuss it? Go find a thread about a game that does interest you and discuss that.
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>>345141195
>2 variables in space
>implying this is enough information
3d faggot
>Murray and his team of nu males have to shill this hard 24/7
>thinking this game will be good
I'm the type of autist who liked Elite: Dangerous how does this game compare to it?
>>345167397
Imagine increasing the color vibrancy and removing all the gameplay. There you have it.
>>345166338
That's a nice attempt at being the cool headed guy in the argument. Are you this much of a twink in real life? I guarantee your family and friends see through this shit and don't mention it.
>>345141439
Not bad.
>>345166776
Oh really? Does Dark Souls have multiplayer? Is PVP multiplayer? Is The Journey a multiplayer game? You're full of shit. Video games aren't all the same thing either. Is a visual novel a video game? Is a simulator a video game?
It's all relative semantics.
>>345167174
It's a video game, i'm interested in video games in general, and I enjoy discussing video games. I wasn't asking for personal reasons, nor do I expect there to be any deep personal backstory to why you are looking forward to playing 'No Man's Sky'.
There we go, you are looking forward to the game because you enjoy exploring game worlds, I can emphasise with that, however, to enlighten you on how you can't see why I wouldn't want to play it; I've always felt procedurally generated landscapes are a little lackluster, part of the allure of exploring is the idea that everything I find has been created with the purpose of being seen. I just always feel games like minecraft, the world lacks purpose.
But then again minecraft is one of the highest grossing games, so it's a mere matter of opinion.
Lastly I'm not interested in circle jerking over games I like, I find that is the most pointless exercise out of the two.
Is there any reason for them not having multiplayer ?
So is there like quests and shit? Can you blow stuff up or is it literally walk around and tag X stock creature with a random spore mutation so you see your name as the person who 'discovered' it?
>no man sky haters will ignore this post
>>345167772
The devs are incompetent and poor.
>>345167701
I like to remind people that the real world we live on is the result of procedural generation and not "designed", yet still amazing and beautiful. Despite beliefs contrary to this, there's no evidence to support those beliefs except faith, and that's okay for that kind of philosophical reasoning, but not a discussion like this.
Another point I'd like to make is that technology evolves. Procedural generation has gotten better since minecraft and other, older games featuring it. This will likely be a differing experience and change your mind about the system. Maybe not, but we'll see.
>>345167867
>mindless shit-munching drones will accept the same planet with different colors and minimal terrain change
>>345167867
1/3 of those look like they could have been on the same planet
>paying $60 for a walking simulator in space
What if it turns out the developers actually fleshed out every planet individually and this game turns out to be the game of the century.
>>345168119
Then why the procedural lie?
>>345167983
I understand that, but a game would have to come out, and I would have to see it in action before I get excited for it.
I do get that our universe is effectively randomly generated however I'm unsure of how well this can be replicated in a game engine without us seeing the same general landscapes repeated over.
That being said, my opinion now and my opinion next month may differ after the game has been released.
>>345167867
Wow, look at all the things you can do.
>>345168191
>>345168119
one of you is confused
>>345168005
If by "same planet" you mean a large spherical body, then yes.
Clearly there's vast terrain, flora and fauna differences, and environmental differences.
>>345168119
/v/ would still say it's shit
>>345168119
All quintillion of them?
>>345168264
>Clearly there's vast terrain, flora and fauna differences, and environmental differences.
This is what no man's drones actually believe.
wew
>>345168353
There's a fucking get picture a few posts up that proves it, you little cunt.
Go ahead and open paint and circle two that look similar and I'll point out every single difference in a large list so you can see how retarded you are.
>>345167867
it's pretty
I'll probably watch some youtube compilations of it
that'll take maybe 10 minutes
>>345168407
>no truth allowed
Reddit confirmed for gestapo again.
>>345168407
let's face it at this point this game is Bernie Sanders
>>345168407
> Bugs are le wacky fun thing meme
I blame bethesda for this.
>>345140620
>then
>it will be multiplayer
>you will rarely see anyone but it can happen
>planets others have visited will show all the things they named
>now
>single player only
>you will never see another player
>none of the planets others have discovered can be found if they don't upload them or you don't download them
What are they going back on next? Instead of having a billion different planets, it's actually just a mix of 5 different choices for aliens, ground color, resources and NPC types?
>>345167018
Thanks for proving my point.
>>345168631
I also blame them for 'even the best programming teams can have massive and obvious bugs on launch'
>>345168684
this is Spore
they might tell you its' not, but it is
I'm expecting Sean Murray to pull off a rubber mask and reveal Peter Molyneux at any moment now
>>345168775
But if I proved yours, you just proved mine.
What literally grinds my gears is that apparently nothing you do to a planet stays permanent. Once you fuck off, everything is reset again.
Fuck that horseshit.
>>345168921
There are certain things that stay permanent and others can come along and see.
What can you do in this game?
>>345168898
The cycle never ends.
>>345169105
What if I blast the shit out of a planet down to its very core?
Can't wait for them to come out and say there's no middle of the universe, you are just following an arrow pointing in one direction that keeps throwing random planets at you and none of it is actually an universe
>>345169215
you can only dig 125m down
>>345169245
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>345169245
which reminds me this game is actually strikingly similar tot he first Red Faction game, you know minus the story and gameplay
>>345169287
You think they know how to code your gravity if you dig straight through the planet?
>>345169363
What's so hard about that?
>>345169439
I'm sure a competent dev would be able to do it
This game actually needs a delay. It's going to come out buggy and unfinished. The land is going to be empty but vast and you can't even interact with other players (communication wise at least). The game should come out like a year from now instead so that people don't waste their money.
It's a graphics demo
I called it years ago /v/ hated me for it now you all finally realizing.
>>345169791
Your opinion is uneducated and trash.
>>345169791
>buggy and unfinished
idk they seem pretty adamant about cutting features in lieu of actually finishing the game
>>345169841
No, tripfaggot, /v/ hates you for being an attention whoring tripfaggot who needs to kill himself quickly.
>>345169791
how would you know this?
>>345169791
>implying it would be any better a year from now
>>345169841
>/v/ hated me for it
really?
pretty sure a year ago at E3 everyone was shitting on it
maybe it was more divided than I remember
>>345169224
what's interesting is that it used to be center of the galaxy, which makes much more sense. then in an interview a dev said that was just a mistake, but that you actually ARE going to the center of the galaxy, but actually you aren't because of "spoilers".
i'm 90% sure it's going to be a plaque saying you reached the center and a message about how the journey is more important than the destination etc.
>>345169910
>in lieu of
fuck, I used that expression wrong, but you get what I mean
>>345141152
>they actually peddle this lie
>>345170038
you're 90% stupid
>>345169954
german detected
enjoy your turkey refugees
merkel is cia
>>345170038
it's going to be a fucking teapot
and the worst part is it's going to be the meme of the century for at least a week
>>345169128
https://repo.nmsdb.info/
>>345170193
I'm an American living in Hawaii, and I'm white. But cool. Kys.
>>345170201
a teapot?
>>345170437
>dem anger issue
go play ur pokemons or masturbate n vape whatever u kid millenial stupid fucks do to chill out
>>345170437
>this is the /v/ that exists now
>>345170556
if ever you do graphics 101 or babby first cgi then you render a teapot
>>345170437
how do you guys get internet through the water?
This game seemed cool 3 years ago.
Now it's 3 years later, everything they show looks like the same shit from 3 years ago, plus now the game is $60 when there's nothing to do other than explore proceduraly generated worlds for no real reason or end game.
>>345170556
either a teapot or a whale
it's always meme time when the hype comes
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/198068-another-thing-that-got-forgotten-was-the-fact-that-against
>>345170692
actually it's from the teapot analogy, even the rendering stuff comes from it
Everyone'd be better off by donating for Space Engine than investing in this hollow piece of shit.
>>345170574
Yeah I have the anger issue, lol
>millennial stupid fucks
I bet you weren't born before 1980. You're a millennial too.
>>345170643
I know, shouldn't respond to tripfaggots.
>>345158778
Handcrafted IS the only option if you want your world to feel constantly fresh.
>>345170710
it's delivered by boat stupid
>>345170943
No it's not.
>>345171025
Yes it is you retarded turboretard.
>>345170710
Sea turtles m8
>>345140620
To prevent suicidal thoughts.
>>345170943
wat
this makes no sense
I'm confused. Can you actually see other players or not?
>>345169864
No.
>>345169910
Numales are creating the game, it's going to be at least as buggy as The Forest was, honestly this game is going to be the next The Forest. It's going to sell okay because marketing and YouTubers will be playing it. It will be patched for like 3 years after release. Calling it now.
>>345169959
It's just a gut feeling.
>>345170003
Honestly it could be better if they get some criticism from normies.
>>345170928
not mad just pointn out ur a fag
>>345147047
I don't know. Ask your mom
>>345171190
Yes. I've watched way too many interviews and read too much. The majority here doesn't know jack shit about this game.
>>345171209
idk man, not all numales are bad at their job
the game for all its flaws is an impressive technical achievement
true full planet rendering with no load times is revolutionary no matter how you cut it
the problem is it's as has been said a tech demo, an impressive one but barren of all essential features to be called a game
>>345171190
dev has been extremely evasive about it, so I'd wager you can't
>>345151438
How do people still not get that its made out of MATH, procedural generation means just that, a formula is used by the engine to render the properties of area around the player. The whole game fits on a 700MB DVD apparently
>>345171190
lol no
there's no realtime netcode full stop
it's not a "game" btw - it's a graphics demo (technically) - just an F.Y.I. there 4 u
>>345171487
how does the formula create somethign that takes up space from nothing and then without taking up memory space
>>345171487
It's a 6gb game.
>>345171592
there are many functions in this system
let's say 1 function decides on how many planets spawn in a solar system
it's assigned based on a random value between 0 and 50
how much memory is used to store this function before compilation?
less than a kilobyte
>>345171175
>pulling assets from an asset pool randomly according to an algorithm
versus
>making assets on the fly
>>345171719
but when the planet is spawned does it take up space then?
>>345171467
I assume the game will have pretty long load times. I also don't know if it's randomly generated the same way for every player. If it is different for everybody then I don't understand their logic about multiplayer. However if it is the same this could be optimal because then they could add on to some planets over time.
>>345171592
I was the one that typed out the question about the storage space originally and I have to say I was wrong.
Since planet data doesn't get stored except for extremely limited stuff like naming for discovered ones, you can just remember the seed number for the planet you visited and that's that. Every time you revisit it recreates the planet from scratch, like an instruction set for making a house you only need the blueprint not every brick placement and floor tile.
So you wouldn't need 18 quintillion bits (my example) to store the information, you would only need however many have been discovered, which would be a tiny fraction of that.
>>345171592
get held in RAM.
any updates you do to the environment get sent over the network - oh wait no they don't - THEY GET THROWN IN THE TRASH because if they were to store the updates they'd have to pay the network traffic bill for data ingress which would cost a fortune hence the worlds *won't* be persistent and /v/ got TOLD again.
pic related - a proper game
>>345171878
>I assume the game will have pretty long load times.
mabye for the first time but my guess is that planet generation happens multithreaded in the background in between system jumps
>>345171887
That would mean they're completely lying about multiplayer then. If the planets change then how are players even going to have the same planets in the galaxy as another player.
>>345172021
they won't, the seed will be the same should you stumble on discovered planets but there will be no persistent changes
>>345171827
The world around you (textures etc.) generated from the code is loaded into memory. After you leave that area, all that is thrown away and replaced.
>>345171909
>the worlds won't be persistent
The shits probably exist on a seed system according to coordinates.
>>345171827
this is where something called a "seed" is used
it generates the very same piece of originally 'randomly generated information' each time that seed is used
>>345172136
I don't get what you mean
>>345171878
Load times practically don't exist because everything is generated on the fly.
>>345141256
no steam does not LITERALLY say: ''SINGLE-PLAYER'' it's software. it cant talk to you. learn how to use words.
he's just saying the game uses planet location for seeding
but that's got nothing to do with player updates
>>345172186
A planet exists on coordinates XYZ. The seed for coordinates XYZ makes for a RED planet with BLUE trees and YELLOW animals, and the coordinates for the system makes it have a RED sun
If mods are created for this game then it has a lot of potential. I think people could easily find ways to go to specific seeds and different ways of generating the universe.
>>345166628
>explain to him the game literally has quintillions of systems and there is no real reason there needs to be any fighting at all
that's the beauty of space piracy, it's completely pointless
>>345172313
what kind of nitpicking is this?
I'm seriously starting to think you're less than 12 years old CODFish
>>345171487
>700MB DVD
>>345172360
He meant changes to the planet, like shooting up a crater, that doesn't stay because storing each change od each player on their servers is unreallistic
>>345172360
oh yeah definitely, so the total storage space for planets (if they even get stored on server who the fuck knows at this point) will only be system number(int), a float array for the coordinates and an int for the seed number, probably sector info will contain some info about nodes to other systems
Whats in the center of the universe?
>>345172273
Then there would be one very long load time when starting a save. This could be a flaw when advertising the game because streamers and entertainers such as that will most likely point out the one very long loading time. It can also show up in thumbnails like with what happened with Bloodborne when it came out.
>>345172123
>>345172164
does that mean that when I leave a planet everything that I have built on it or change, is deleted?
>>345172614
They mention as soon as you leave a planet, the planet is reset.
so
idk desu senpai senpai
>>345172548
Oh, well then he's completely right. The devs didn't imply the changes were persistent did they? That's a staggering amount of data to keep track of.
>>345172614
deleted
>>345172596
yeah probably, odds are it generates the system planets on game load and then does the rest on a different thread
>>345172589
You meet god and he gives you a magical item to instantly terraform planets which is a powerful weapon against the evil Grox.
Oh wait wrong shitty hyped up disappointment.
>>345172671
>>345172679
what kind of bullfucking shit is that man
what is the point in exploring shit then
>>345172673
They'd need a dank mathematician on their team to resolve such an issue that I doubt a 15-person team could afford.
>>345172614
You can't build stuff as far as I know. But small changes will be stored on your save locally so whatever you do you can see when you come back, very big changes will be stored on their servers so everyone could see.
>>345172765
>what is the point in exploring shit then
to gain science mana to upgrade your shipadoodles, armadoodles and weapadoodles
>>345172767
That dank mathmetician wouldn't be able to compress that much data. Carmack couldn't code that.
>>345172871
but can you erp?
>>345172765
there is no point.
it's a graphics demo
the whole premise of the "game" is fraud where you are the guillible fool and the lead dev needs to go to jail for false advertising.
go outside - real happenings.
>>345172896
seconded
there's only so much you can do with a number
>>345172896
Not so much about compression, more thinking up a manner in which to efficiently isolate player changes in the generated system and replace them upon regeneration.
>>345172904
no it's singleplayer
maybe the furries can roleplay fucking the wildlife
>>345173052
You'd need to permanently change the seed which was previously so easily tied to the location of the planet. And then you'd have to do this for however many thousands of planets will be being changed at the same time.
>>345173052
then it won't be recorded online and never fucking mind making some kind of volume map for a planet that takes hours to traverse by foot and has thousands of little changes
fucking hell I wouldn't like to code that
>>345172596
Loading from a save file wouldn't be different. It would just load some stuff that isn't procedurally generated (not much stuff). Everything else, is generated like: you're at a xyz position, the textures etc. are generated and displayed based on that position on the fly. That's why you can be on a planet, suddenly fly into space, with 0 loading time.
>>345173052
>>345173204
>>345173212
why do the britbongers care about space when it's singleplayer only
don't need to see no other nigga's base
>TFW the center of the universe is a 1-1 recreation of earth and the game turns into an MMORPGS as everyone who's ever beat the game is located on it.
>>345173346
>britbongers
wot?
>>345173346
>don't need to see no other nigga's base
you don't get to build bases and you don't get to see other players
>>345173431
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_Games
They English.
>>345172765
The point of exploring is exploring. The devs said many times that there's a whole universe out there, staying in one place would be kind of a waste. But you could if you wanted. Also, any change you do is stored for you, so if you destroy something, later comeback to that planet, the change is still there. But for changes to be seen by everyone, you'd have to really impact the planet, which I don't know how, maybe wiping out a whole species? This is because they can't store every small change of every player on their severs, while big changes of which there will be far less, they can store.
>>345173569
>tfw no ancient stargates to access and build an interstellar empire of System Lords across the galaxy
>>345173569
>the change is still there
still with this bullshit?
I guess at least someone will be disappointed at launch day.
>>345173569
>later comeback to that planet, the change is still there
Others say the opposite. What is true now?
>>345173569
Big changes are just a modification to the seed essentially like getting rid of a certain animal type
Another person wouldn't even realise you'd changed something hence it's pointless
Just cause the devs convinced you that a tech demo is a game doesn't mean it's a game
>>345173828
changes are not persistent.
CONFIRMED PROOF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J09aeeBVtk
>>345173569
>Also, any change you do is stored for you, so if you destroy something, later comeback to that planet, the change is still there.
that's literally not true.
>>345173739
ever heard of a save file?
>>345173828
others say the opposite because they feel the need to shit on this game, you can read about it or watch some interviews
>>345174263
>ever heard of a save file?
this nigger thinks saving a 3D volume map of a procedurally generated planet comparatively hundreds of mile across is the equivalent of a save file
truly gold in this thread
>>345156791
>humans slowly devolve and get depressed when in solitary
>make a game were you explore the infinite expanse of space alone
nothing wrong with single player but this is just too much
>>345174057
>>345174525
“Changes the player makes are saved locally,” Murray explained. “So if you start destructing the terrain, that’s saved on your own machine. And if you try and make -- what we would consider -- really significant [changes], some of those [changes] are stored on the server, along with the discoveries that you make. But in general, a lot of what you’re doing is considered insignificant. If you kill a creature, we scratch that, we save that that’s happened, but we don’t feel the need to like, kill that creature for everybody.”
>>345174525
How does minecraft do it then?
>>345174948
pretty much how it would be done if they stored changes in No Man's Sky
>world is divided into chunks
>world loads chunks
>world checks if the next piece is an altered chunk or not
>world loads in saved chunk if so
there's a good reason why most multiplayer servers establish hard borders
>>345141331
Sean Murray (dev of the game) said the journey to the center takes around 100hours by playing "normally" and said it can be done in ~40hours if you rush.
>>345175580
>100 hours normally
>40 hours if you rush
>implying their game has even 5 hours of content
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