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Who else already has buyer's remorse?
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Who else already has buyer's remorse?
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>>345119829
It's not even out yet, how could you have buyer's remorse?
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>>345119829
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>>345119829
Are you kidding me? It already has more functioning content in beta than WoD had through it's lifetime.
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>>345120078

Beta
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>>345119829
>Being able to walk around as an unholy DK in public, while maintaining the functionality of a tank and DP...well, a tank.
Lets just hope everything works. So far, it's yet another expansion where key DPS mechanics are going undetected and costing us rune power/damage.
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ok I'm seriously thinking about rerolling. Last played in cata, finished hc25 firelands and quit after killing deathwing.

How is pala doing? And any other major changes I should know about?
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>>345120223
Doesn't mean it's good or worth the price.
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>>345120336
But you don't buy a beta?
Do you know what buyer's remorse is..?
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>>345120571
all classes are super casualized to the point where DK's starter abilities take more skill than any class in legion
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>>345120223

like what?
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>>345120665

>Pre-order game
>Play beta
>Beta sucks
>Oh man why did I pay for this
>????
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Me.
Didn't even buy it
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>>345120779
Class Halls
Demon Hunter
Artefact Weapons
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>>345120223
That's not exactly an achievement
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>it's a I cleared the raid in LFR which is equal to clearing it on Mythic episode
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>>345120779
World Quests
Mythic dungeons with modifiers
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>>345120797
>Pre-ordering before playing beta
KEK
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>>345120797
>pre-ordering a digital game
Why?
Maybe now you've realized that's pointless.
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WoD was such a disappointment, the only part i miss about playing this game is staring at my goblin shamans butt all day
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>>345121001

>it's a I have to wait 200 attempts for people to not be fucking retarded episode
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>>345121001
>it's a "I can't change up my memes just a tiny bit" episode
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>>345121098
not that anon, but mostly for the character boost that came with it. those sneaky jews know just how to get my money. "well i'll probably play the new expansion eventually anyway so i may as well pre-order now and get the character boost"
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>>345120223
>It's better than shit

Well,crap. I'll go get my 40 bucks then.
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>>345121304

40? Oh Anon...
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>>345121172
t. lfr babby
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>>345121001
>It's a dumb frogposter
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>>345120223
>>345120941
>>345121304
Is it better than MoP is the big question.
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>>345121525
That's something only time will tell. They want to aim for a patch cycle similar to MoP, and they've acknowledged that two year expansion cycles are more feasible, so hopefully they are prepared to offer great content again rather than neglect the expansion half way through.
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>>345121525
>Is it going to bring back the exciting moments MoP already had or exceed them
no
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>>345121304
>>345121417
63$ for standard + 1month sub
83$ for delux edition + 1month sub
for rehashed content and old features rebranded as new ones
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>>345121672
you know they will drop legion halfway through "to focus on the next expansion" and all 7 of the drones left will fucking defend it, because it's the first time a developer "learned from his mistakes" and isn't just damage controlling
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>>345121525
>Is it better than the second worst expansion so far?
I mean, it doesn't take place in Pandaland, so probably.
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>>345122124
>MoP
>Bad
A year of SoO aside it was one of the best.
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>>345122041
"to focus on the next expansion"
"You think you do but you don't"
Why do people keep falling for these?
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>>345120854
>>345121067
All of these doesn't matter if the gameplay is shit and boring.
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>>345122456
"next time we'll get it right" (c) 1990
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>>345121525
>>345121672
>>345121679
>>345122124
MoP wasnt a bad xpac considering the shit that it got sandwiched in between it. legion might be just a horrible continuation of WoD.

if thats the case are we gonna get a repeat of WotLK in an alternate timeline?
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>>345121001
There is zero reason to do anything past LFR.

With LFR you get:
The excitement of seeing the dungeon and the bosses for the first time.
Nice shiny purple gear that makes you look like a serious raider
A nice shiny Legendary ring
An achievement
All the cutscenes and the story elements showing you that you Did The Thing and became the most awesome hero Azeroth has ever seen

Whatever fun comes from the "challenge" of wiping a thousand times on a single boss and playing with a dozen+ people you probably don't even like just simply isn't worth it. You're OBJECTIVELY better off just clearing LFR and investing your time in something more meaningful.
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>>345122627

>Arthas won and is trying to erase all other timelines
>Travel to the Lich King's broken Azeroth

..Shit, I actually want this
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>>345122485

Most classes are better to play than they are in WoD and some better than ever.
Rogue is a little bit bland at the moment, but pretty much everyone else is much improved.

It's the same gameplay as ever, though, so if you don't like it you obviously won't like Legion.
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>>345122627
>are we gonna get a repeat of WotLK in an alternate timeline?
unlikely also blizz has a habbit of removing content players enjoy because they want buyers to cling onto the game hoping they'll bring back what was fun once. If blizz never removed the fun content or made new content just as good, players would get burnt out and stop playing wow. players hoping it'll be fun again is what keeps wow alive
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>>345122965
does retri paladin still have that shitty holy light energy thing
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>>345119829
I would never preorder a Blizzard product.
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>>345122873
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>345123038

Yes.
Ret is kinda shit in Legion as well.

Rogues + Ret have it bad in the beta right now.
Possible they are a bit better once it launches after people complain during prepatch.
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>>345123131
:O But then you'd miss game launch
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>>345123175
god damn
i loved ret in wotlk

and now its dead
shame
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>>345122627
It feels like they wasted a chance at giving us a clean slate by not sending us to Alt. Azeroth where no one knew who the fuck we were.
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>>345122873
>Nice shiny purple gear that makes you look like a serious raider
except all the gear that drops in LFR has shit stats and literally looks like trash
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>>345123226

Prot is pretty good though. Better than WoD. It does not use Holy Power anymore.
Holy Paladin is also kinda cool since it's a melee healer now (more or less)
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>>345122873
>no set bonuses

no thanks

set bonuses are what its all about

The LFR ones don't count since they are generic and not class specific.
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>>345122873
LFR gear is shit and the raid encounters are a face-roll. Except ToT because for some reason nobody could fucking do Durumu.
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>>345123318
melee healer?
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WoW went shit after Wotlk
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>>345123494

*during
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>>345119829
>2016
>buying wow """""content""""
Why?
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>>345122873
Fucking solid gold, right here

"Theres no reason to play any game on anything but very easy, because all the content is new!"
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>>345123534
*before
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>>345123226
it's not dead, classes are constantly rebalanced throughout expansions, and tier bonuses end up mattering more than anything else
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>>345123208
wew lad
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The only real long term thing legion has to offer is the mythic+ thing. Its going to be exciting until the next soul cap comes along. I just hope we dont have another raid that lasts a year+
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>>345123631
i just hate that holy light resource
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>>345122873
dumb animeposter
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>>345123630
This. Isle of Quel'thalas was shit.
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how much do they pay you?
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>>345123316
>>345123421
>>345123427
>MUH STATS
Stats mean fuckall when you can kill everything outside of these raids with zero effort anyway and you don't plan on succumbing to the mind-numbing gear treadmill and running HFC again on three other difficulties like a fucking retard who doesn't know how to manage their time properly.

Maybe if you spent less time running the same raid on redundant difficulties, you might have had more time to come up with better responses.
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>>345123650
>I just hope we dont have another raid that lasts a year+
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>>345119829

>18 months withouth a content patch
>On a MMO with monthly subscription
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>>345123749

set bonus != stats
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>>345123427
>for some reason nobody could fucking do Durumu.
>for some reason

I still had problems with the maze on normal progression. I just started using my bubble as a Paladin after a while because fuck it
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>>345123763
DELETE THIS
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>>345123208
Lol that's what I want to do in this case!
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>>345122446
>you will never marry a pandaren
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>>345123749
>redundant difficulties

Sorry, but LFR isn't a difficulty setting. Its cruise control. Complaining about lack of effort required in LFR is fucking hilarious.
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>>345123749
why do you even care about playing the game at all? it's not like there's anything to do outside of raids that is objectively more rewarding than progressing through content
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>>345123838
the "trick" was you had to put graphics (i think it was particles, i might be mistaken) on super low to actually see the path, if it was on ultra or something it was super confusing. We just marked one guy and followed him
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>>345123316
>>345123421
>>345123427

not anymore.

LFR gear in Legion is like LFR gear in MoP: same tier set bonuses, trinkets, and looks just lower ilvl and colors.
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Several seasons into PVP. The gear is still less itemized than normal mode raid gear. PVP gear scales up in battlegrounds instead of having a better item level than heroic gear.

Fire Holinka! Day one Legion greens will greatly exceed raid gear.
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>>345123874
Science needs to be useful, cut the cancer research, and figure out how to make my panda gf.
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>>345123594
No there isn't, but most games are actually fun and not shitty MMO's whose only appeal is grinding for hours to reach some arbitrary milestones, so there's more of a reason to go for the higher difficulties first. Most games also don't make me start out on Very Easy before lettering me move up to Hard, so I can get the experience I want right from the beginning.
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>>345124007
glad to see blizzard has forgotten the lessons they learned from their mistakes
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>>345123763
DELETE
REPORTED
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>>345124007
>If I lie, nobody will bother actually looking shit up to prove me wrong
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>>345124007
dumb. Seeing how shit the gear that drops off LFR Archimonde looks is the reason I joined a progression guild
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>>345119829

>bought Legion and 1 month sub
>played 2 hours
>uninstalled

I always got the itch to come back, but I never though I'd ever fully quit.
Have 0 chance of ever playing this game again. Feels good
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So how exactly does the Artifact leveling work? I know you get artifact power by doing stuff but is there a weekly/monthly cap? Will NEETs be finishing theirs long before everyone else?
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>>345124117
>Most games also don't make me start out on Very Easy

>Wow forces you to play LFR

What the fuck are you smoking?

And progression is not grinding. Progression is actually difficult. Each difficulty tier has new mechanics too, before you complain about each difficulty setting being a grind.

Fuck off.
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>>345124236
Everyone here believes you
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>>345124236
>buying a sub before even prepatch
Retard
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>>345123897
>Complaining about lack of effort required in LFR is fucking hilarious.
That's not what I'm complaining about, though.

Maybe if you spent less time running the same raid a million times on multiple difficulties because Blizzard is too fucking lazy to develop actual content, you'd have better reading comprehension.
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>>345124396
>That's not what I'm complaining about, though.

>Stats mean fuckall when you can kill everything outside of these raids with zero effort
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>>345124376
Gotta make some gold before garrisons are nerfed.
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>>345123763
Blizz really doesn't give a shit about this because they now have 5 other games they can roll out content for and all the dedicated Blizzbabbies will swap to those games until WoW gets new content or an expac.
They only say they want to cut down on the long ass dead period to shut up all the whiners and give you false hope.
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>>345124276
no cap, and yes they will. AP is too important, especially for top tier guilds running 3+ characters. You can screencap this post people will die farming AP so they can get world firsts
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>>345124281
>>Wow forces you to play LFR
>What the fuck are you smoking?
Good luck getting into a progression guild without your ring, fucko. At the very least, you have to do it on normal, which might as well be LFR.

>And progression is not grinding.
Progression isn't doing the same raid four different times with slightly altered mechanics, either :^)
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>doing UBRS CM
>playing fury
>at last boss
>if we wipe we won't have enough time
>boss at <5%hp
>tank, healer and rogue die to fire/bladestorm
>pop die by the sword and scabbard of kyanos
>mfw just as die by the sword wears off I get my last execute off and down the boss

Felt good boys
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>>345124158
The ilvls differences at admittedly noticeable (830 --> 850 --> 865 --> 880) but the "+" means that, if you are lucky, that LFR loot can be mythic quality.
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>>345124485
>outside of these raids
>outside
>of
>raids
So not anything to do with LFR, then. Cool, glad we cleared that up, bud.
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>>345124658
you're embarrassing yourself in front anyone whose isn't terrible at wow. only three people in my guild had legendary rings when we started mythic.
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>>345124658
>Progression isn't doing the same raid four different times with slightly altered mechanics, either :^)
>doing progressively more difficult content isn't progression
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>>345121301
You get the character boost even if you don't pre-order you idiot. It comes with the xpac as default.
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>>345124559

What gets me mad is that if any other mmo does that people loses their shit, they leave the game and even it's called a "tortanic". But if wow does it nothing happens...they will have again +10M subs the day the expansion is released and again will be considered "the best MMO of the universe".

WoW players are not MMO players, they are just WoW players.
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>>345124753
Show a trinket pls. Not doubting you, I just remember the trinkets in WoD LFR were absolute dogshit.
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>>345119829

It takes a special kind of retard cuck to pre-order a game and regret your purchase before the game even releases.
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>>345124658
Holy shit, you've either never played this game or you're a literal mouthbreather. Do you dress yourself?

Normal is not like LFR, by the way. Not my a longshot.

You're also complaining about joining an MMO late and expecting a guild to take you on without any prep.
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>>345124753
Doesn't matter because Tier Set Bonuses are now so ridiculously powerful that even at 835 it'll be worth using over mythic gear that isn't Tier. I don't mind extra shots at Tier gear every week because it just means I'll get what I need of it faster.
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>>345124658
>Good luck getting into a progression guild without your ring, fucko

From what I could tell, most guilds didn't look for the ring (or the cape in my case) but just that you were far along enough in the quest to feasibly get it. I was only on the first portion of the Cape quest when ToT came out but still got into a fairly good guild quickly. Conversely in WoD, I got into plenty of pugs with guilds that didn't need me to have the ring since I only started playing again way later in the expansion after quitting during Highmaul. Might just be because I'm a healer though.
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>>345120336
I know what you are, but what's your problem with WoW?
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>>345124847
>r-r-r-recycled content is real content, y-you guys!
Recycling the same raids over and over again and slapping a couple mechanics onto it isn't meaningful content and it makes for the blandest possible progression. You're a shit shill for even trying to defend it.
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>>345124658
the only people who care about ring are crystallized fel farm runs
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>>345124753
>loot chest difficulty mode possibly gives best loot in the game

jej mahal
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BC > Vanilla > WotLK = MoP > Unsubbed > Cata > WoD

Legion as a betafagshill seems okay
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>>345125241
Sounds like you just hate MMOs as a concept there, bud.
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>>345125241
>and it makes for the blandest possible progression.
too bad he was saying it's not progression and not that it's bad progression
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>>345124934
Certainly.

Like I said, because of the titanforged system you are doing yourself a disservice if you don't do LFR.
If you are doing normals and heroics you absolutely should do it. It wouldn't be bad to do specific wings once you start mythic. Obviously by the time you are finishing up mythic LFR won't be lucrative but as you are getting to that point I'd argue it's an important facet of gearing (unlike in WoD and moreso than in Cata/MoP).

Also as you probably noticed, that trinket affects a class ability akin to the ones from Archimonde.
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the retarded guy is the only one keeping the thread alive so you better give him more (you)'s in case he gets bored and leaves
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>>345125241

Allowing content to be done at an easier difficulty is not removing content either.
Same amount of raids, just now you have the option of safe space babymode.

It's unreasonable to expect another raid for every difficulty.
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>>345125137
they added a fix for that. although the tier is identical, you can't mix and match lfr with other difficulty gear to get the set bonus, so there shouldn't be a reason for serious raiders to do lfr
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>>345125553
You can't? Then what's the fucking point of it being there.
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>>345125553
you can get off pieces from lfr that can roll high ilvl so you should do it
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>>345125167
it's because you were a healer. nobody cares about gear or min/maxing for healers, but if you're an undergeared dps it's a lot harder to find a group
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>>345125661
I wish there was a way to show how good a healer. It's literally impossible now. Healing done is mostly "who presses their major healing CD first" or who was lucky enough to precase a heal on a target that just got hit.
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>>345125528
>It's unreasonable to expect another raid for every difficulty.
That's literally how it worked in vanilla and BC. Instead of progressing through the same raids on different difficulties, you just progressed through different raids.

It also helped that Blizz didn't completely negate the previous raids whenever they released a new like they do now with all these ketchup mechanics.
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>>345125614
I think LFR players were upset that their tier sets didn't actually do anything. Set bonuses are a big part of the flavor of a class and usually effect playstyle in a significant way. This way they can get the same experience, but mythic raiders arent forced in to LFR to complete their sets.
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>>345125652
this. even if there's a minuscule chance of an upgrade people will have to do lfrs, at least at the start of progression
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I swear to god if LFR doesn't get the boot this expansion I'm done with this fucking game.
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>>345126029
Then they don't need Tier sets. Tier sets is a goal for actual raiding and it should still be that.

>>345126295
We're halfway there as LFD is worthless in Legion.
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>>345126295
LFR gear can Become as powerfull as Mythic raiding gear due to RNG
:^)
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>>345126295
It won't.
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>tfw rogue main
Don't want Legion to come.
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>>345125517
indeed I have no idea why people still play this dogshit with LFR and LFG still in the code
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tfw resto druid
Consistently decent since TBC
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>>345127186
Outlaw is the only good thing that has ever happened to rogue
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>>345125465
The titanforge and slow ilvl upgrade system is weird I'd say; for someone who plays and PUGs heroic/mythic content casually, it's a godsend to never have to run LFR again, but for anyone in a stable mythic guild, I imagine it's going to be awful to try to do everything every week just for a small chance at +5-+15 ilvls on a trinket/relic
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>>345119829
But how can I have buyer's remorse, with a game I never bought?
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>>345123451
Holy's healing is now directly tied to their proximity to their healing target. So the closer they are to tanks, the better the healing. Makes sense considering they're plate wearers and don't have to hide in the back like the squishies.

I'm more excited that Hunters have a melee spec now, I absolutely forgot how they used to function in Vanilla/BC.
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When will you faggots learn to stop giving actiblizz money?
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>>345122936
>go into an alternate timeline
>get stuck
>launch WoW 2 without the fuck ups
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>>345119829
I do and I cancelled years ago
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>every expansion since wrath has been utter trash
>keep buying them even after the price increases
>"O GOD I HAVE BUYERS REMORSE NOW"
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>>345127591
as soon as I stop having fun
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>>345127404
Resto druid was completely ruined with cataclysm, so no.
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>>345127404
>Female druid
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>>345126741
Well, at least the casuals got what they wanted.
They bitched and moaned and screamed that they couldn't get the absolute best armor in the game for minimal effort and now Blizz is giving it to them. I feel bad for the actual mythic raiders since it seems like Blizz ignores their existence these days.
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Never understood why people got butthurt about LFR giving tier. In MoP mine was clearly more prestigious because it said Heroic while theirs said Raid Finder just like in Legion mine will say Mythic while theirs has Raid Finder.
If you aren't shit at the game then you shouldn't feel threatened by someone with LFR tier and if you're doing the hardest modes you shouldn't give a damn what the LFR crowd is doing.
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>>345120748
This, every single class is more "small attack, medium attack, big attack" mentality than ever before.

>>345123494
It started going to shit with BC, when they fell to greed and suddenly wanted everyone at the max level so they buy the next expansion. The rest of the accessibility bullshit that has been a cancer on the game stems from this.
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>>345126295
>being this assflustered about people being able to see content
>also not realizing that LFR is literally just for gearing up so you can do real raids and it's just a rung on the ladder

Can't get more retarded than pseudo-elitists like yourself

I bet you haven't even fucking touched mythic because you're sitting at ilvl 645.
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>>345120797
You can get into beta without buying Legion as long as you have an active account with game time remaining

good job retard
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>>345128135
From my personal experience the people who are most pissed off at this are the "5 months behind the curve" mythic raiders aka garbage players who get carried by their guild or excellent players who are just stuck in a kinda crappy guild
They don't really have the privilege of running around in full mythic gear after 1-2 months and are actually threatened by shit eating casuals being able to maybe possibly get mythic level gear even it takes 10 lockouts for a single item
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>>345127989
Get fucked poopsocker
:^)
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So are Demon Hunters going to be shit or what?
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>>345128817
Demon Hunters are the Death Knights of Legion in pretty much the exact same way.
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>>345128934
You mean like how DKs were when Wotlk launched?
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>>345128934
the only reason to play the game?
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>>345129004
Yes
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>>345129034
So the most OP shit ever and automatic Gladiator.
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>>345128817
What are you guys going? m/f belf or nelf?
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>>345128380

That wasn't the point
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>>345122873
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>>345120223
It's too bad so many specs are shit.
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>>345122873
>You'll never be so bad at a game that you delude yourself into this kind of thinking
Feels good man.
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>>345129279
mnelf or mbelf depending on which faction I decide to stay on.
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I don't know how people can take raiding seriously these days when it involves clearing the same raid not only multiple times but on multiple difficulties.

It's a lazy way to prolong the lifespan of a raid without actually making more content.
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>>345121525
The answer is no. MoP was the last expansion with a decent budget.
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>>345119829
>buyer's remorse

Isn't a real thing.

it has no matter or mass or a fixed position nor is it in motion, and it does not produce any vibrations either.
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>>345129902

As if people weren't doing this during WotLK before shared lockouts
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>>345130530
well spooked my property
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>>345130530
you are not a real thing
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>>345130964
>you are not a real thing

If I close my eyes, then yes, you are absolutely 100% correct.

What you see could be real, but what you cannot see could very likely not actually exist.

Same thing goes to hearing and feeling and smelling.

But only one person has drowned in a mirror.
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>>345131249
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>>345127186
Druid must be the only class who doesn't fully fucking hate the class changes.
Man, what the fuck did Brewmaster and Combat do to deserve that fate?
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>>345129240
yes
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>>345129279
f belf probably

no horns
no tattoos
no eye wrapss (or maybe the simple cloth bandage)

I'll be the specialest of all special snowflakes
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>>345131515
>what the fuck did Brewmaster and Combat do to deserve that fate?
brewmaster: have a high skillcap
combat: it was just kind of boring. every rogue I know only played combat out of necessity, and would switch to offspec any chance they could get
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>>345131249
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>>345129279
f nelf
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>>345131515
frost death knights look fun as fuck compared to the low DPS whack-a-mole game it is in WoD
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>>345131515
Are you kidding, Outlaw is the change that combat fucking needed

Combat was and still is the shittiest, most boring spec in the game
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>>345128934
They are pure shit, They have one of the lowest dps in the game
have almost no survivability.
and are easily pinned
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>>345132121
except you're fucking wrong

nice try tho
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>>345132245
Except I'm not fucking wrong fucker I'm in the god damn beta.
Havoc is Shit and keeps getting worse
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>>345132381
I'm in the god damn beta too and you're still fucking wrong
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>>345131965
Can't wait to make Illidanaruto
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>>345132381
>>345132439
I'm also in the beta and both of you are wrong. Havoc is literally the exact average of DPS
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>>345131249
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>>345132439
no you're wrong any fucking class with a pin kills DH, mages kill DH, f
Eye beam does shit damage ST
the only self heal is a Talent that is on a 4 min cool down.
havoc is pure shit
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>>345132574

Fuck off, I was in the alpha and now the beta, and DH doesn't have a dps spec at all
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>>345131249
Cogito ergo sum, bitches.
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>>345132661
At least he makes more sense, and he makes no sense at all.

>Inb4 he's not actually writing/typing his tweets but a A.I. is

What if, what if we're all A.I.s, and we can't find out since we constantly develop inferior A.I. clones of us to block paradoxes and loopholes to prevent us from malfunctioning?

Maybe we ARE the Paradox...
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>>345129279
m nelf

best new VA
best animations
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>now the armor types are unbalanced again
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>>345133281
>tfw cloth and mail tanks never
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>>345132721
You're both wrong, DH does not have a spec.
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>Playing Destruction warlock
>Shadowburn is a talent and no longer an execute
>Spec into it and perma havoc
>Running dungeons hitting nothing but shadowburn
>mfw 1 button warlock

It's like BC but with instant casts
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>>345133281
>not using personal loot
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>>345133546
>playing one of the worst Warlock specs in the game.
enjoy being the bottom of the dps charts
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how do you fags settle on a class
every time I play a class I feel like playing another, it's a neverending circle
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>>345133770
That would be Paladin and Warrior
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>>345133770
Isn't that a given?
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>>345133549
>using personal loot
only in pugs, anon
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>>345133817

Stick with the first class I picked through thick and thin
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>>345133817
The most important part is in my opinion to not be influenced by outside opinions or performance
Just play what you like aesthetically/mechanically
And pray Blizz doesnt fuck you up
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>>345133907
Fury is one of the top and so is Pally
Destro is below Shadow priest in DPS
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>>345134130
in fact I think Disc does more DPS then Destro does right now
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>>345134130
Ret is absolute trash on beta.
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>>345132712
You're fucking retarded
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>>345133770
>playing one of the worst classes in the game
>enjoy being the bottom of the dps charts

ftfy
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>>345134371
nice argument, sorry that you can't accept that someone who has tested and has done both DPS tests for PvE mythic dungeons and normal raids and PVP tests for all classes knows more about the game then you do.
Havoc is pure fucking shit.
WW is 100% better and is almost as Mobile.
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>>345128135
>If you aren't shit at the game
You should know by now how casual /v/ is.
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>>345121417
40 with amzn prime nigga.
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>>345134629
Considering I have too and was the best every fucking time, you're just fucking shit at the game and need to literally commit suicide.
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Are Prot Paladin's worth playing?
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>>345134726
>and was the best every fucking time
what the fuck does that even fucking mean
>i was the best at testing something
huh? i was not aware that Running numbers on which build for each spec is the best could be done "Better" then someone else.

havoc is pure fucking shit.
>>345134950
yes, that are also op in pvp right now, only think more op is Prot War
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>>345135062
The best dps, fucking idiot.

Jesus christ how can you be as retarded as you are.
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>>345123749
truthfully there's no point in doing anything past heroic archimonde
>just pay for a run
>fight is over before i even know it
>don't have to learn strats, they can kill him without me
>get possibly two pieces of gear or two things of gold
>plus an upgrade for your legendary ring
>plus a mount

with mythic archimonde you get
>a reskinned version of the sky golem but now its black and green like everything else in the raid
>the satisfaction knowing you completed the entire game and now have nothing else to do with your time besides run it again and try to get warforged gear
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>>345135267
are you saying havok is good because you outdpsed someone in a dungeon group? because that doesn't hold up well against actual theorycrafting
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>>345135267
what the fuck are you talking about "the best dps" this isn't a fucking contest you dumb shit it's a god damn test to see what each CLASS and SPEC DPS is not to See what your fucking dps, you fucking dumb fucking Dick waving competition, it's a fucking Class test. Jesus Christ Lean What fucking Theroycraft is
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>>345135585
if you're in a good enough guild though you can sell runs
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>>345123226
>loved ret in wotlk
>it's most overpowered time ever
of course you did shitbag
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An example of why solo world quests are cool

Here's the victory results of a World PVP Quest to attack a tower I just did:

For my paltry 5min worth of effort I got
- 150xp for my bodyguard
- One of my 4 world quests for the highmountain tribe completed (Plus a tiny 75 rep gain)
- 300 honour
- Glory of the Melee artifact power from hitting Rank 5 in PVP (710 power thanks to my artifact knowledge)
- Warforged Relic
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>>345133984
that's not helping
for example I started a monk because I like kung fu shit but 5 levels later I felt like playing hunter, starting a hunter made me feel like playing shaman which then became mage, it just keeps going. I don't know if my problem is that I want to play everything or if I just want to play nothing
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>>345131249
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Xal'athat and the book would look great if they had less spikes. I can transmog the book to any of the countless book models wow has, but I don't know what to do with the dagger.
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Will pre patch be next week?
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>>345135824
>solo

Already bored
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>>345135824
and thats why WoW has always sucked, it takes almost no effort to do anything in the game

meanwhile games like everquest, you played 8 hours a day for a full year just to reach max level, then 8 hours a day for another half a year or more just trying to get gear for starting raids, or the cash to afford it.

MMORPG's used to take fucking EFFORT, now they hand everything to you basically for free.
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>>345121525
>tfw skipped mop cause pandas then dabbled in it a bit right before WoD, for WoD

I missed some shit man, raids were fun, pvp was fun as fuck and then it all came tumbling down after capping in WoD. The fuck were the teams doing with cata and wod
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>>345135597
Theorycrafting is never even close to actual numbers and you're a fucking newfag if you think it does.

>>345135707
I was the best dps in every fucking game I've played

now fuck off with your retarded idiocy.
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>>345136346
News flash! Casuals dominate the Market, and Buisnesses want to make money.


Sorry :)
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>>345136170
trnasmog it to one of the countless dagger models WoW has?
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>Want to play WoW with a VR headset
>Not compatible
Fuck. I just want to play games normally but feel immersed in them. May just buy an extra wide monitor and some headphones.
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>>345135824
Do you think they should incentivize defending the towers too? Like giving the opposing faction a conflicting world quest? I see a lot of players attacking these towers but no one really defending them.
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>>345136346
>play forever just to get rewards
>Be able to get rewards while also managing a real life
Yeah, easy choice there.
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>>345136425
>skipping it because of pandas

jesus christ you're just genuine retarded aren't you
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>>345134629
>WW is 100% better and is almost as Mobile.
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>>345136508
But they are all awful
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>>345136191
w/e kike. Sorry you're upset over nothing
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>>345136557
?????
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>>345136346
Poopsocking isn't what's in anymore.
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>>345136545
>managing a real life
you are on 4chan, not having a "real life" is kind of a crucial component to using the website, otherwise you are a normalfag who needs to emigrate to SomethingAwful or some other pro-normalfag site.
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>>345136346
kek

don't be proud about wasting your life
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>>345136346
The artifact power grind and nightfallen rep grind actually take effort especially if you want them to go by quickly, but I'm wondering if there'll be complaints about that.
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>>345136826
Gotta pay those bills somehow.
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>>345136826
nigga 2006 has been 10 years ago
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>>345136826
I pretend to be normal while at work but in reality I just spend all my free time at home on my computer. I just want something to sink my free time into again.
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>WoW will never be like this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FWd6O5LC2w
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>>345136185
4 days
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>>345136767
I mean, WW are finally interesting to play with the new mastery and hit combo.
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Neato
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>>345137179
they even buffed Hit combo so it works better with WW mastery by making FDK not shit.
WW is looking to be a really PvP/PvE good spec
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>>345137062
that is what NEETbux are for

>>345137073
yeah, and habbo hotel was the beginning of the endless surge of normalfags which has not stopped

>>345137076
>while at work
please don't come back
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>>345137991
NEETbux give you the bare minimum Anon. I don't want to end up like CWC.
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>demon hunter
>finally getting around to using class ideas popular around TBC
>still don't have enough ability ideas for two unique specs, let alone three
>copy pastaing abilities from other tanks
Blizzard has fallen so far.
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>>345137991

Uh oh, here comes Officer "I'm entitled because I'm mad everyone at my highschool knows what 4chan is" telling people what to do on an image board.
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>>345139015
>everyone at my highschool knows what 4chan is
4chan didn't exist when i was a senior in high school, sport. That was 16 years ago.
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