So why aren't these considered the best pokemon games? I tried to go back and play HGSS and it was fucking painful, everything is slow, the encounter rates are too high and the games are ugly. The only bad thing about Gen V is the shit pokemon designs and B2W2 has the old pokemon.
>>345089550
i suppose i could just emulate black 2 or white 2, couldnt i? is there a good, nonhorrible way to emulate ds on android?
i keep hearing such great things, I wanna give it a shot.
why exactly is it so good?
>>345090117
There's Drastic but it's not free and DS emulation on mobile just isn't that good at the moment. I'd just go for a PC emulator.
>>345089550
>So why aren't these considered the best pokemon games?
they aren't
RBY and GSC are the best
>>345090296
RBY are horribly designed games that only get away with being so shit because they were the first games in the series. GSC are really good, though.
BW are fucking top tier. Actually had a good story, the world was lovely and it had fucking ANIMATED SPRITES. I can't help but dislike the 3D rendered Pokemon, but I loved the sprite art style.
Limiting the main game Pokedex to only the new ones from that gen gave it a really original feeling too. The style of a lot of the monsters from that gen also more emulated the original ones, rather than going full Digimon like Gen IV did.
Oh, and it had the best looking male protag since Red.
Actually, good pokemon designs are Gen V's greatest strength.
>>345090614
Gen V is my favourite but I fucking hate the pokemon designs, they basically just remade Gen 1 but slightly worse in my eyes
>>345090549
>RBY are horribly designed games
no they are not
>>345090949
Bitch please.
>>345091025
nigger please
>>345090949
>>345091270
I know that retarded picture, sorry but none of the things in there matter
if you think balance mattered in gen1 you're an autist, and you never played back then
>>345091270
>balance changes in future games I like didnt happen yet so Gen 1 sucks lolololol
>>345091413
>This game is badly designed, here's why
>none of that matters lol
It's true that some things on there aren't going to ruin your experience, but that doesn't make the game any less flawed. Shit that doesn't smell is still shit.
I honestly don't know what Nintendo was thinking.
Played BW, BW2, thought they were the best up-to-date, and then they just fucking trash EVERYTHING and release the pile of garbage that is X and Y.
The 3d models are atrocious, the story is for fucking 5-year-olds, the world was just bland and boring. The fucking Pokemon designs, Fairy type, and Mega Evolutions were retarded.
I'm really fucking disappointed. I was hoping Sun and Moon would be better, but fucking no, they had to make another X/Y.
>>345091602
>doesn't make the game any less flawed
I don't see any flaw that actually matters
there isn't one thing on there that makes me go "oh yeah that's right, I guess the game WAS shit, how did I ever enjoy this"
we never cared about this shit, we only cared about catching mew and if you don't get this you are underage
>black and white story is good
>i play pokemon for the story
jesus christ
>>345091803
yeah, nobody knew about 3/4s of this shit, nor was there anything to compare it to.
>>345091803
You're right, I didn't play when RBY came out because I was 3 and my first game was Ruby. How does it feel, grandpa? All flaws in a game count, you can't sweep something under the rug because it didn't bother you personally.
>>345091270
>>345091884
tons of the things on there aren't even bad
>ghosts are immune to struggle
>every attack has a 1/256 chance to miss
so? I don't see the bad thing in that
what's the problem with every attack having a very slim chance of missing?
what's the problem with ghost being immune to one attack that is hardly every used anyway? there are 3 ghosts in the game, how often is it gonna happen that you're gonna lose because struggle misses them
this is literally a list of nit-picks because people can't find real flaws
>>345091884
>We were retarded so the game being buggy and badly designed is ok!
>>345092018
kek
babby admits he's a babby
I like how maybe 3 or 4 Gen V Pokémon is enough to invalidate yhe entire list (Typical easy targets like Garbodor, Vanilluxe and Stunfisk).
Gen V had a lot of great looking Pokémon, but you just want change the narrative to suit only you.
>>345089550
Can't speak for the newer games but HGSS is a more core pokemon experience which, surprise, features a lot of bullshit by design.
>>345092282
Woah there old timer, I'm 21. Don't be mad because you're almost 30 and still defending your bad game on /v/.
>>345092290
I'm not even talking about the bottom of the barrel shit, I'm just not fond of the majority of Gen V designs. Pokemon like Unfezant and Klingklang just look bad to me put next to their equivalents of Pidgeot and Magneton.
>>345092451
Different anon, but his point is that there's an experience in RBY that goes beyond how balanced it is. Back in those days you mostly played with people you knew and the balance truly didn't matter.
The way people judge RBY is like shitting on Super Mario Bros. because it doesn't live up to Galaxy.
>>345089550
>So why aren't these considered the best pokemon games?
Why would they be when Platinum exists?
>>345092451
>almost 30
I'm 31 pleb
>bad game
kill yourself
>>345092692
So he's remembering the experiences he had playing the game with others, not how great the game was itself. I get it, but you can't say none of the flaws in a game matter because you liked it when you were a kid and didn't notice them. I'm taking a purely retrospective view.
>>345092864
>boasting about being 31 and still posting on 4chan
LMAO'ing at ur life desu senpai
>>345092959
Pokemon is built on playing with others. RBY's shit aspects add to that. People don't meet up and play as much now so the games have to rely on actually being made well since online mp is way more active than old school pokemon ever was.
They're not
>Bland boring 'story'
>not focused on catching them all
Like my main reason why I lothe the new games is I have to grind through the 'story' mashing the b button to get through the god damn gym leaders life story just so I can battle her/him (mostly her's now a days) and move on.
And the world and encounter designs now are pathetic, no more puzzles to get to secret areas for that legendary, or room/bush with rare species.
Instead the end game usually revolves around some gimmick, like the stupid friend safari or mirage islands, or grottos.
If I really had to say which games were best.
2nd gen had the best game world, and stadium 2 was the best addon pokemon has had since
4th gen had the best post game thanks to events actually being interesting and not locked behind some stupid event that happened in like 3 locations in the world for a week at a time
First gen just had the core of the game right, you could actually catch them all with a reasonable effort put in, except mew, which didn't even count for the catch them all certificate outside of japan.
>>345089550
AFAIK, HGSS, Platinum and B2W2 are the most popular games on /vp/. Personally, I love Crystal, HGSS, Diamond and White (I haven't tried White 2 yet).
>>345091554
Good job, this is what we call "outdated game".
>>345091803
>sleep mechanic and wrap mechanic
>speed related to crits
>psychic typing
>non-existent movepools (e.g. take a look at fire types)
The combination of these problems is what makes 1st gen really freaking annoying since you encounter it all the time.
R/B/Y are not bad games but they certainly feel archaic and unpolished when you go back to them.
>>345093084
gr8 b8 m8
>>345093681
>>sleep mechanic and wrap mechanic
>>speed related to crits
>>psychic typing
>>non-existent movepools (e.g. take a look at fire types)
>The combination of these problems is what makes 1st gen really freaking annoying since you encounter it all the time.
>R/B/Y are not bad games but they certainly feel archaic and unpolished when you go back to them.
and again, it simply didn't matter to us back then
not in the least bit
some of these things I don't even see a problem with
why do people like you not understand this?
>>345093785
being a dumb kid does not excuse the bad aspects of RBY's design
LOVE EACH OTHER
LOVE EACH OTHER
LOVE EACH OTHER
LOVE EACH OTHER
RASHIRAM
>>345090554
This
Black and White actually had a solid story, nothing 2deep4u, but it changed shit up so much
>Limiting Pokedex to JUST that region until you complete the game .
>Remixed Gym music to fit the theme of the gym
>No HM requirement
>Animated Sprites
>Team actually had a sensible reason for being (despite the obvious IM DA THE BAD GAI character)
> Truth vs Ideals is a legit conflict in real life too, so it made for a great plot device
>BW2 was a fantastic send off letting us battle EVERY SINGLE GYM LEADER AND CHAMPION FROM GEN 1-5
Jesus fuck, I went back and played BW2 and holy fuck is it still fun as hell, the PWT is worth it alone.
Why was Gen 6 so god damn shit beyond the online play, BW legit set the stage for better pokemon stories and didn't treat kids like total retards.
Gen 6
IM BAD GUY, HEHE
OOOPS IN MAH LAIR
MEGA GYARADOS
FUK I BET
the end
Only kind of cool thing was implied mass genocide to bring back Yvetyl.
>>345093785
>and again, it simply didn't matter to us back then
Speak for yourself. I despised wrap and sleep in 1st generation when I was 6/7 yo and I know people who share my opinion.
>why do people like you not understand this?
Vice versa.
>>345094797
"Truth vs. Ideals" was an interesting idea for a motif in how it was used in the designs, but it wasn't actually used in the plot at all. The words were just repeated over and over with no actual meaning behind them, and switching them between versions didn't change a thing.
>>345095350
>You believe in Pokemon training, capturing pokemon, battling pokemon etc,
>N thinks they should be free and just live with humans freely,
>Zekrom and Reshiram were visual representations of this just to make it more obvious
how was "truth vs ideals" not used? I mean don't get me wrong it wasn't HUGELY a part of it, but the idea of having different views that can both easily be justified was blatant.
they are considered the best pokemon games.
>>345095931
Because N's motivations and actions are exactly the same in both versions. The two versions just swap which word he uses to describe them. Whether you're called "ideals" and he's called "truth" or vice versa makes no difference in the theme of the story. That doesn't portray any meaning to the words, unlike the obvious contrast of the Pokémon and world designs.
>>345094797
ORAS Redeem itself on the plot if you care about it that much, sadly the rest is another story, fuck.
>>345090554
It has the best looking female protag in any game too.
>>345089550
>Best Pokemon
I would say is a tie, B2W2 best aspect was the gym battles at the end, god tier shit. But RBY remakes were god tier too, best over-world exploring.
>>345089550
It is generally considered that the best pokemon games are HGSS and BW2, its basically a tie.
>>345090250
What? Drastic runs perfectly on good old S3
>>345091813
Nobody's saying they play pokemon for the story, but the fact that there was something that resembled a story was nice a change.
Everyone thinks BW2 are among the best games, silly.
>>345089550
>So why aren't these considered the best pokemon games?
But they are and I've played every single Pokemon game to date. Maybe, MAYBE Emerald, Platinum, and/or HGSS rival them, but in terms of GENERAL numbers most people agree that BW/B2W2 are considered one of, if not the best of the series. Just ask/vp/.
>>345098363
Controls like ass though
>>345089550
They were the best games until the Wi-Fi was shut down.
Because that isn't pokemon Gold/Silver/ Crystal
>>345089550
Personally I fucking hate the region. I'd rather explore the wilderness than walk around one big city that's being called a region.
>>345098489
Rosa best girl
>>345098730
Which gen's region is your favourite?
>>345089550
They are unless you're a casual with shit taste. B2W2/Platinum/HGSS are tied for the best Pokemon games.
Because it's in not murrica the best region
>>345094797
>Why was Gen 6 so god damn shit beyond the online play, BW legit set the stage for better pokemon stories and didn't treat kids like total retards.
One of Ghetsis's first lines.
>"We shall bring back the hero and that Pokémon to Unova once again! If we can win people's hearts and minds, we can easily create the world that I--I mean, Team Plasma--desires!"
HIHIHIHI HE SLIPPED UP GET IT? XD
HYDREIGON
ARGHNIFREVHFJDKCFUCKING KID
player:sup N
N:yo sup
the end
>>345098980
Would Z save gen 6?
Did they give up on it because they knew that gen was unsalvageable?
>>345100274
Nah, I think they're just done with the 3rd version system, since they made B2W2 instead of Grey and there was no Z. Shame they had to have Zygarde there to do nothing until Gen 7 though, it was one of the actually interesting Pokemon of Gen 6.
>>345098957
Not the same anon but I have the same opinion about Unova and I really like Sinnoh.
>>345100885
>I really like Sinnoh
I mean I can understand not finding Unova your favourite but really? Sinnoh? All those mountain paths get so fucking tedious. I think Sinnoh was my least favourite region and it had the worst beach areas out of all the beach areas.
White 2 is better purely because you get White Kyurem, arguably the best dragon type in the game.
But B2W2 are godly and the epitome of the series. Amazing how we went from those amazing games to the worst games in the series a year later.
how come no one talks about ruby, sapphire, emerald?
I'm playing heartgold right now and I like it but I might as well play emerald. I don't have 3DS so I'll have to play the GBA version
>>345101037
But Black 2 has challenge mode
>>345101280
Yeah.
That's true.
See, they're both amazing.
>>345092282
Do you realize how old RSE are, grandpa?
>>345091270
>much autistic list discovered 15 years after release
Like pottery
>>345092864
>I'm over 30
Proving his point
>Kill yourself
Nice argument lad.
>>345089550
because these have shit tier pokemon and region
>The only bad thing about Gen V is the shit pokemon designs and B2W2
B2W2 is this gen's saving grace
>>345102194
>being this buttmad
>>345102229
Did you read past B2W2, nigger? It says the only bad thing is that BW only has new shit pokemon and that B2W2 has the old pokemon, implying that B2W2 are better for it.
>>345102362
>projecting this hard
>>345102362
lmao holy shit you're pathetic, just get your midlife crisis and kill yourself already, grandpa.
>>345102362
>has no comeback
>"p-projecting!"
>>345102923
>replaying to the wrong post
You just proved how much of a tard you were. Get off of 4chan if you can't even work the website.
Why do Gen 1 fans feel the urge to vehemently defend their games despite obvious flaws, yet tear down fans of later games in the series for equally petty reasons as the detractors of Gen 1. Don't they realize that people calling Gen 1 dated is a good thing, because that just shows how much the series has grown mechanically since then? Or are they just man children who refuse to grow up?
>>345093920
it had nothing to do with being a dumb kid, we just knew what mattered about games
we didn't think a game was bad just because the balance was slightly off or it had a glitch somewhere
we even enjoyed these aspects too
we didn't spend more time shitposting online about how the game sucks than actually playing and enjoying the game
>>345103113
>replaying to the wrong post
>replaying
>>345095161
>6 year old butthurt kid hated the game
so?
I was 14 and I was fne with it
sure it could be annoying, but that was the point of it
>>345103602
Maybe I should just kill myself
>>345091719
Fairy type wasn't retarded, it was to balance the multiplayer. And it worked really well at the time.
>>345103723
You might as well, animefag.
>>345102194
he said that I was almost 30
so how is pointing out that I am over 30 proving his point?
l2math
>>345103560
>i was a kid and retarded so it was fine
Also
>there's absolutely NO way that adults also played it back then
>>345103772
Where do you thing you are?
>>345103961
A place where avatarfagging is against the rules.
>>345103445
They're old, bitter manchildren who want to remember their childhood when everyone didn't think they were a loser.
>>345103883
I wasn't even a kid, I was 14
>NO way that adults also played it back then
one of our teachers played it
So many Pokemon threads but there is a fucking board dedicated for it. Go the fuck away newfriends. Mods should start banning Pokemon go threads as well.
>>345103961
>where do you thing you are
>thing
>>345103790
You proved his point of calling you grandpa, retard. If you're 31 and posting on 4chan defending muh nostalgia vidya you may as well top yourself, friendo.
>>345104218
I need to go to sleep, I'm starting to forget english.
>>345104226
>grandpa
>31
gr8 b8 m8
>>345104396
Keep going please, this is comedy gold.
>>345092018
>>345092451
I'm also 21 and was able to play RBY when it came out, yellow Gameboy Color and everything. You have no excuse.
>>345104493
like your mom
>>345104563
Didn't really start playing games until I was 6 or so.
>>345104680
I think this is evidence that genwunners perhaps, maybe, are in fact actual children.
Which one should I get B2 or W2?
>>345104810
B2 for challenge mode
If you don't care about challenge mode just get whichever you think has better exclusives.
>>345104785
yes
I played it as a child and now 20 years later I still am a child
you sure are smart
>>345104810
Take a look at the version exclusives and see which ones you like the most. If I remember correctly B2 comes with a hard mode and W2 has an easy mode, but they're only available after the E4 for some reason. The plot might make less sense if you haven't played the first BW games, but plot in a pokemon game doesn't really matter I suppose.
>>345104810
get none, pirate it and then kill yourself
>>345105008
You seem to be getting upset
>>345105162
I'm not
just amused by your mental illness
>>345105246
I can't really argue with that second part, but you seem to be a bit further down on the scale than I am.
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