>Stock is skyrocketing
>Pokemon Go is literally the biggest and most culturally significant game of all time, even toppling the original Pokemania
>Beat Sonys entire lineup and won E3 with a single game
>Is set to revolutionize gaming with the NX
Can he be stopped?
>>345051735
>Pokemon Go is literally the biggest and most culturally significant game of all time
i feel like this deserves an asterisk since it's freeware
The yakuza don't fuck around
New Disney
-Theme Parks
-Movies
-re-Releasing old content
>Time-less Characters
>world wide appeal
All that's left is to own tons and tons of land and copyright law bending
>>345051735
>Nintendo only gets 10% of the revenue
>>345051735
>>Is set to revolutionize gaming with the NX
And yet Pokemon Go and Zelda can't even touch my current GOTY this year or the next. Triple A game devs lose again, I'm afraid.
Anyone from anywhere can buy stock from Nintendo right?
>You WILL understand
All thanks to the fallen hero, tho. No big deal made directly from him aside of killing the Nintendo Directs
>>345051969
Nintendo is a co-owner of Niantic and owns 1/3 of the Pokemon company
>>345051848
Nintendo has already made more revenue in a week selling Pokemon Incense than it did from the entire Wii U platform
>>345051735
>Beat Sonys entire lineup and won E3 with a single game
This meme is getting stale.
>>345051735
>even toppling the original Pokemania
No
>>345051969
The exposure and stocks going up alone are enough, it's seriously done nothing but good for them
>>345051735
From killing your hobby? No. Enjoy the incoming garbage revolution and death knell of gaming that started with the first episode of Big Bang Theory.
>>345052140
>>345052140
>meme
>>345052202
It legitimately has though
I can imagine Pikmin working well on mobile as well, though that would cause shiggy to kill himself.
>>345052405
>gaming journalists, aka the people who want to put in a "skip gameplay" button, liked the new Zelda
That's how you can tell it'll be a terrible game. The fact that God of War and Battlefield are right behind it can tell you about their """"tastes"""".
>>345052405
Can you not do arithmetic?
>>345052513
>though that would cause shiggy to kill himself.
i doubt it, he's a senile old fuck who likes "accessibility" and gimmicks
>>345052614
>journoalists
That chart represents worldwide social media discussion.
>>345052632
>arithmetic
A person can have more than one discussion.
How'd they win E3? They showed one of the most downgraded games in the history of E3. Only Watch_Dogs was worse.
>>345052792
>>345052792
>worldwide social media discussion
AKA the same people who universally praised ""games"" like Undertale and TLOU. Like I said, all opinions that should be discarded.
>>345052934
There is no evidence to support that claim.
The NX, Universal stuff, and Pokemon GO were incepted when Iwata was alive.
Kimishima won't dare change the NX out of respect.
>>345053123
Incorrect use of data.
There is nothing to suggest the people talking about Zelda and GoW are different people.
>>345051735
>>345052405
>>345052792
>>345052915
>>345053042
Nintendo of America has deposited $3.19 into your account.
>>345052405
>Final Fantasy XV listed twice
>>345053212
>Facts are racist against sonyggers
Everytime.
>>345053307
Nintendo of America has deposited $0.24 into your account.
>>345053297
First for total Final Fantasy XV discussion and second for Final Fantasy XV discussion without mentioning VR.
>>345053042
Except for the fact that every tweet came from E3, the platform that pushed games like TLOU and The Order 1886 in the first place.
Personally, if you want to convince me that this game will be good, I just want a guarantee that it'll be different from the cinematic garbage of today's modern AAA industry. That means the following:
>no story, at all. That means not even a single line of dialogue. Your story has to have the length of the original Zelda
>must have multiple challenge modes
>no high definition graphics. That means they need to tone down the display they showed at E3. I don't tolerate wasting money on graphics.
>no voice acting, period
>no fanservice. That means if Zelda or any woman is in the game, they need to be dressed appropriately. No tits or asses exposed (it's cheap garbage meant to pander, and it ruins a game)
>it can't be restricted to console control schemes and should be compatible with every known controller
>should be moddable
>no DLC or amiibo support
Now, having said that, will the new Zelda support all of this?
I will never understand how somebody can shill for a fucking company. I really hope you get paid for this OP.
>>345051848
>it's freeware
it's freemium
which means millions of dollars in pure profit each day
>10 years of """innovation""""
>Slow downward spiral into a sea of gimmicks and no 3rd party support
>Literally just slap pokemon onto googlemaps
>It prints money.gif
Where has he been all this time???
>>345053498
>Except for the fact that every tweet came from E3, the platform that pushed games like TLOU and The Order 1886 in the first place.
Correlation does not imply causation.
>>345053590
yes but that's not what I'm talking about
it's free so anyone can download it, making its popularity require an asterisk
>>345053498
Link is literally by women and queers..
>>345053669
popularity isn't dependent on cost
>>345053498
>>no story, at all. That means not even a single line of dialogue. Your story has to have the length of the original Zelda
Stopped reading there, you are autistic.
>>345053198
There's nothing to suggest that the data is unique users period actually. It says it's a sample of conversations, which means little in reality.
>>345053630
In this case, it does when the entire industry is infected by the cinematic AAA hallway shooter cancer.
If anyone from E3 had a sense of taste, Zelda would be up there alone, and God of War and Battlefield would be nowhere second or third place. Infact, no other cinematic hallway game would even be on the list.
>>345053362
Want me to deposit my dick in your ass?
>>345052405
some female friends of mine was talking non stop about zelda on their social networks
does they even plays games? nope, they are shitty fujos who loves twink boys without shirts
this is the ""talk"" you are bringing up now?
>>345053760
people are infinitely more likely to play something that's free than something that costs money
>>345053769
>video games can't be videogamey! they need to be movies and "Art" and have hours upon hours of dialogue and cutscenes
>>345053145
>Kimoshima won't dare change the NX out of respect
Nigger this is business. Business. It's not oersonal, but you best believe if there were problems with Iwata's vision that Kimishima is stepping in with his input.
Respect won't get them back the millions they'd lose if the NX is a flop. Kimishima will do what has to be done.
>>345053883
strawman at its finest
>>345053883
Don't strawman me you dumb nigger. You said "not a single line of dialogue". That's fucking autistic.
I know it's hard for you to believe but not everything has to work in extremes.
PLEASE kill yourself you knuckledragger.
>>345053859
>some female friends of mine
Your personal experience != tangible evidence
Try harder.
>>345053883
>a single line of dialogue is the same as hours and hours of cut-scenes
>>345053883
Dat strawman tho
>>345053867
so what
cheap/free=popular
no asterisk needed
>>345053883
>strawmaning this hard
>>345054013
there's tangible evidence that people don't play nintendo games, just look at any chart numbers
>>345053992
>Weebposter thinks I'm going to read a single word he types
Lol
>>345054164
>loosing the argument this hard and damage control
>"i-i won't read lalala Im right!"
jesus man, hang yourself, seriously
>>345051735
>>Is set to revolutionize gaming with the NX
It's going to be a shitty gimmick
>>345053992
>>345053956
>>345054028
>>345054057
>>345054103
What purpose does dialogue and "Story" serve in a game? Please do enlighten me. If you removed all sense of story and context from a game like Mario, the game wouldn't suffer a single bit. If your game needs cutscenes and dialogue and plot and exposition, then I'm afraid you've missed the point of the medium, which is to PLAY the story, not watch the story.
Let me try to reason with everyone here. You all seem to be an agreement that Nintendo won E3, right? But why? Would you argue that it's because Nintendo showed a game, instead of a cinematic experience? Did you enjoy sony throwing out more movie games with cutscenes and quick time events and narrative? So certainly you can understand my disdain for this industry's boner for hollywood semantics, can't you? And being the supergiant of the industry that has lasted 40+ years, you think it's unreasonable for me to not want story in a video game? Especially since Nitnendo's entire philosophy is "gameplay over story"?
>>345054013
>MY GAME THAT IS BEING TALKED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN PLAY GAMES MATTERS GUISE, SERIOUSLY
kys
Pokemon main series is so done.
>>345054158
>there's tangible evidence people don't play nintendo games
Source. And no,
>"just look at any chart numbers"
Is not a source.
Give me a source to back your bullshit.
>>345054349
I didn't ask for a novel, faggot
>>345054349
>What purpose does a single line of dialogue serve in a game
You are legitimately autistic.
>>345054427
>yfw they start releasing new pokemon exclusively for Go
best thing to happen to the series desu senpai
>>345054349
It's only ever a problem if the cut-scenes take up more than 10% of the games length.
>freemium mobile "game" (more like "app") popular with the facebook crowd
wow how will sony ever recover!?!?! They're stuck with all those actual video games!
>>345054425
>BEING TALKED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN PLAY GAMES
Source?
>>345054349
Can you make your posts shorter, please? All this dialogue and story in your posts is cancer.
>>345054617
>actual video games
Ok I laughed.
>>345054349
The only person I can think of who complains this fucking much about stories in games is ACfag. If I am correct and you are indeed ACfag, please kill yourself.
>>345054617
>actual video games!
>people celebrating Nintendo putting another nail in the coffin of videogames
this is the Wii all over again
>>345054349
Okay I see what you're saying friend but a game can still have dialogue and story without it being too overbearing. Shit like TLOU and "cinematic" games in that vein have gotten saturated but there's no need to throw all sense of story out the window in order to combat that. You're trying to resolve one extreme with the other, and that doesn't work.
>>345054537
>>345054569
>>345054734
>It's only ever a problem if the cut-scenes take up more than 10% of the games length.
And this has been a problem for half the Zeldas ever released. Hour upon hour of listening to dialogue, oftentimes being unskippable. Remember OOT? The owl who you couldn't skip, and if you tried button mashing past him, you would inadvertenly repeat his conversation? How about the unskippable cutscenes that I believe even made it into Wind Waker, and to an extent Twilight Princess? And the sidequests filled with NPCs who do not stop talking?
>>345054473
>>345054639
I'm not asking you to pay 60 dollars to read my posts, am I?
>>345054751
It could be worse...
>>345054815
>Multiple posts being within a minute of each other
newfag
>>345054778
>What purpose does a single line of dialogue serve in a game
>>345054778
>And this has been a problem for half the Zeldas ever released. Hour upon hour of listening to dialogue, oftentimes being unskippable. Remember OOT? The owl who you couldn't skip, and if you tried button mashing past him, you would inadvertenly repeat his conversation? How about the unskippable cutscenes that I believe even made it into Wind Waker, and to an extent Twilight Princess? And the sidequests filled with NPCs who do not stop talking?
yeah but there are always hours and hours of actual gameplay in between each conversation.
>>345054775
If you want story in video games, then there's a clearcut easy way to do it without sacrificing the game quality: make the story PART OF THE GAME. Instead of parking me infront of a cutscene that I have to skip if I want to get back to the game, have the game tell the story through this thing called "gameplay".
Do I need to rescue a princess? Don't show me a cutscene of her getting kidnapped. Have me fighting a giant gargoyle balrog while the villain catches her in the background. Need to illustrate that I have to save the world? Don't need a wordy cutscene or narrative from the villain, have him blow up a city while you try to escape from it. Etc etc.
It's not freaking hard. This is game design basics, something that industry seems to have forgotten in the past 20 years.
>>345054837
at least the PS3 was useful as a blu-ray player
>>345052065
jap only but i think you can work with a jap investor to buy shares for you
>>345054837
PS3 started horribly but by the end it kinda redeemed itself
>>345055053
>useful as a blu-ray player
It's not like DVDs are still around r-right haha
>>345054778
story and dialogue build a world, they set up the atmosphere and premise, they give your actions more motivation and make the game feel more immersive and enjoyable
dumbfuck
>>345052614
>>345052632
>>345053212
>>345053859
The denial is delicious!
>>345054937
>yeah but there are always hours and hours of actual gameplay in between each conversation.
The same could be said of "cinematic games" like TLOU. Having to navigate the story in a constant unpleasant barrage just turns me from the game. Oh, and let me tell you, it kills replayability. As good as OOT is, for example, I can't even stomach the thought of going back to replaying it, because of the constant cutscenes. like the straight 5 minute cutscene after meeting the deku tree, the ten minute cutscene after meeting Zelda in the courtyard, the string of 3 minute cutscenes that happen every time you talk to an important NPC, etc.
Compare that, if you will, to an older game, like Super Metroid. Bar the disgusting, unskippable intro, it's a fine example of how much story you need in a game: almost none.
>>345055185
I see, Beyond Two Souls and The Last of Us truly push the medium forward.
>>345055203
>playing DVDs on an HD TV
it's like you don't even see out of your eyes
>>345055030
>it's not hard
then you make a "perfect" game. And i look forward to playing it in the future.
You'll soon find that not EVERYTHING can be told through gameplay. The only modern game that has really done that well is Shadow of The Collossus, but even that had bits of dialogue.
>>345051735
>culturally significant
2/10 bait
>>345055269
>That means not even a single line of dialogue
Honestly the only thing more amazing than your autism is your defence of your autism.
>>345055296
>yfw given the recent releases by Sony, this is absolutely true
welp
>>345051735
I finally understand.
>>345055269
>The same could be said of "cinematic games" like TLOU
no it couldn't believe me I played the game and the amount of combat/ stealth that it offered in between cutscenes and unskippable dialogue was nearly non-existent.
>>345051735
>revolutionize gaming
Ok, yea this is definitely bait
>>345055341
>falling for the blu-ray meme
It's ok anon.
>>345055030
That only works for something like a platformer or a puzzle game. You could never properly explain a story like FFT's for example without text.
>Pokemon Go is literally the biggest and most culturally significant game of all time
I hate this board.
I truly do.
>>345051735
>new nintendo makes a shit ton of money and smart decisions
>old nintendo bled money but was fun as fuck and turned it's execs into celebrities with the charisma of wrestlers
Feels conflicted man
>>345055207
I've played Roguelikes that built a world far better than any "cinematic" could.
Let's take 2012 for example as a year of video games. Xenoblade and Kid ICarus, Uprising came out that year, and they were both mediocre. Too much talking, too much story, too much voice acting.
Now compare that to a very simple little indie game that also came out that year: FTL: Faster than Light. It built a universe of characters that I genuinely cared for, all without a single cutscene. Now true, they could've cut down the words more, but for 10 bucks it was far more tolerable than Shulk and Pit spouting memes every 5 seconds. And the best part is that FTL is infinitely replayable because of the barebones story that isn't forced on you, whereas in KIU or Xenoblade, I have to practically mute the game so I don't throw my controller at the TV in aggravation over these cliche anime kids.
>>345052114
They have not surpassed any of the main Pokemon games in profit making as of yet anon. Pokemon Go has solidify the brand more and is becoming more wide spread through of course, wich in a way, is more powerful than simple profit in the long run, reason Nintendo stock is increasing massively.
>>345055269
I was going to actually take the time to engage in a dialogue with you, but I can tell you're so fucking dense and stubborn that nothing I say can convince you.
If even a mild amount of story bothers you to the point of being "unpleasant", you have problems. Please stick to NES emulators and MAME, and I'll enjoy the other 95% of games.
>>345055561
there were no cutscenes in kid icarus so your argument is invalid since the never stopped you from playing the game.
>>345052114
Source.
>>345055561
>I have to practically mute the game so I don't throw my controller at the TV in aggravation
>>345052202
21 million daily players and counting. Been making millions of dollars every day since launch.
I sold my PS4 after Pokemon Go came out. What's the point of having a Sony product anymore? Nintendo has won everything.
>>345055545
>turned it's execs into celebrities with the charisma of wrestlers
no, that was retarded as fuck
>haha my body is ready! ahaha memes! haha censored the shit out of every game, haha!
bread and circus, etc etc
that was just to keep your atention from the shit they were doing, but at least a lot of people already woke up from that bullshit
>>345055561
>FTL: Faster than Light. It built a universe of characters that I genuinely cared for
Like who?
Someone post the Tatsumi yakuza meme pls.
>>345055363
>>345055486
>>345055539
>make a perfect game
Already done.
>>345055636
I can tolerate some story if I absolutely have to, but the execution needs to be in a way that doesn't hamper gameplay. If the story is told THROUGH gameplay, instead of before/after it, then it's a fine title.
>>345051969
You're fucking retarded if you think that's how it works.
>>345055825
pic unrelated?
>>345054746
>>345054706
It's okay, I understand that supporters of a company whose biggest release is a mobile app for people who don't play video games don't know what a video game looks like.
>>345055698
Xenoblade had the cutscenes. KIU had too much talking. I made a clear point to seperate those two issues.
>>345055775
>like who
The cast I find every time I replay it. Their experiences in the game shape their characters, and when they die, I Feel regret. The game didn't tell me to care for them, their actions made me care for them. It didn't need a cutscene to tell me that.
>>345055825
>DUDE DWARF FORTRESS HAHA I'M SO PATRISH HEHE TEXT INTERFACES
neck yourself, dwarf fortress has no gameplay
>>345054164
>N-Nope! I w-win, end of story! im not even gonna read whatever you wrote, you w-weeaboo!
Wow, this is quite the double wammy, ain't it? You're either underage b& or a manchild, and frankly neither option is better than the other
>>345055986
>company whose biggest release is a mobile app
Nintendo isn't Niantic.
>>345055986
>a mobile app for people who don't play video games
so what have they been playing?
>all this sonycuck denial and that one pcuck really mad at zelda
Mates its just video games, calm down
And before you call me a nintentoddler I only have a pc and ps3 at the moment
>>345056023
kid Icarus also had the dialogue play over gameplay so its non issue to begin with.
Give me a mini-series that makes Team Rocket the protagonists and I'll start caring about Pokemon
>>345053498
I'm very happy that you have no influence in how games are made and that games are not catered to you and your kind.
>>345051735
>>Pokemon Go is literally the biggest and most culturally significant game of all time, even toppling the original Pokemania
>i wasn't born yet when pokemons happened
>>345056114
>I only have a pc and ps3 at the momentme too
>>345051735
It was bound to happen eventually. I'm just glad it was Pokemon because I love Pokemon.
It feels even better since it's the Gen One pokemon
>>345056178
>you have to have been born at a particular time to state a fact
>>345056047
>Text interfaces lol
But ok, it's just gameplay then
>Has no gameplay
K, underage detected
>>345056047
If you don't like the graphics, there exist several hundred mods and tilesets for it.
>>345056138
No option to mute them though, that was really the big issue, and the dialogue was almost completely related to the gameplay. Basically memes and jokes.
Secretly im flipping insecure there i said it to be honest im tired of being me cause im pathetic never gonna make it might as well forget it success fuck yes never gonna get it broke as a joke i swear to god i wouldnt lie to you never had a job since i left school in 92 cant handle people telling me what to do need to be my own boss thats why i rock a suit try to handle my buisness show im the man here i am with a microphone in my hand if its not a microphone in my hand its a flyer like a miff door to door salesman with no fire please come see my shows its very cool i promise this song is honest enough to make you vomit still sounding strange still counting change whats happening i never want to rap again
>>345056289
>No option to mute them though, that was really the big issue
your autism is not valid criticism.
>>345052405
>He still thinks Nintendo won E3 simply because of that list.
WiiU owners can't play majority of games that list while other platforms have several major titles on their line up which divides the social media traffic of their users. Nintendo only gravitates on the new Zelda Demo and cow tits
>one autist who doesn't want a single line of dialogue
He's not worth replying to.
>>345056480
>N-Nintendo didn't win because of these arbitrary set of rules only I know!
>>345051848
desu pay model (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with a game's significance
>>345056524
is there going to be a "I want to kill praxis" line in the new zelda?that would be cool desu
>>345056410
I'm just saying: what's the problem with giving me some options here to reduce the story impact? And I know for a fact that at least 90% of this thread knows where I'm coming from. You guys don't like cinematic games either, right? So why am I the bad guy? Do you want more God of War and gone Home and Call of Duty? or do you want video games again? Because I'm rallying for the latter. I'm sorry to say, though, that story is incompatible with gameplay unless it's used solely for context. Cutscenes and voice acting and cinematics and trying to be "art" are gonna drag us all down into a destructive path that makes the great video game crash look like a filing error.
I just show concern, that's all. Maybe I was being a little too extreme when I wanted all dialogue gone. I'll admit that. But Nintendo of all people needs to know that a game needs to be played, not read. You interact with the medium, not watch it. Okay? Can we at least get on that stable playing field?
>>345056786
>I want to kill Calamity Ganon
>>345056838
>giving me some options here to reduce the story impact?
why do you hate video games?
>>345056838
If it doesn't stop you from playing the game it isnt harming the game in any way.
>>345056838
>getting triggered by a single line of dialogue
Pokemon Go is now bigger than any game on any Playstation console ever. This is insane. Even the out of touch woman at work who didn't know what Brexit was, is playing Pokemon Go. This is as big as Star Wars or Avatar or NASCAR the biggest sport in the world.
Nintendo BTFO everybody.
>>345057028
>Even the out of touch woman at work who didn't know what Brexit was, is playing Pokemon Go
and this is surprising to you?
more than half the people in Britain didn't really know what Brexit was
>>345056946
>>345056953
>>345056986
>it isnt harming the game in any way.
Refusing to let me skip a cutscene, or making me suffer a loading screen after I actually am allowed to skip a cutscene? I'd say that hurts the game very much.
Let me remind you of what happens when developers want to be more "cinematic" in their games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dATvYZb2QBE
>>345057154
Kid icarus barely has any cutscenes in it and you can skip all of them
>>345057154
>single line of dialogue triggers him
>>345057128
What is Brexit anyway? I voted for it but I'm still not sure. I thought it sounded cool.
>>345057154
you should find a different hobby if this bothers you so much
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
GET THIS SHITTY STORY OUT OF MY GAMES
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>345057327
democracy was a mistake
>>345057240
Can I skip the constant talking of the characters that distract me? I heard there was an option to mute them in the menu, but I couldn't even be bothered since the game was just too much cringe.
>>345057248
>>345057402
>it's okay for a story to overtake a game
>that's why TLOU is the citizen kane of this generation
>>345057595
I know for a fact that you have never played The Last of Us.
>>345056618
What rules? I didn't mention any rules? your comment doesn't make sense to be considered as a counter argument
>>345057595
>Can I skip the constant talking of the characters that distract me? I heard there was an option to mute them in the menu, but I couldn't even be bothered since the game was just too much cringe.
They don't stop you from playing so it's not a problem.
>>345057524
Who cares what Winston Churchill thinks? He was the worst silent movie actor.
>>345057595
>character dialog is distracting
how are you even functioning right now
There is no downside to brexit at all and if you think there is you need to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up
>>345057848
HOW 'BOUT THEM VIDYA GAEMS
>>345057715
It's the equivalent of a quick time event in the middle of the gameplay. It's unpleasant, unskippable, and takes me out of the game. If I have to mute your game just to enjoy it, then there's a clear problem, since sound is more important than story in any video game.
Granted, it's not AS bad as Xenoblade with its 10+ hours of cutscenes and 50+ hours of dialogue and exposition, but it's still an amateur way of making games.
>>345057809
Did Pac-man need character dialog? What about Vic Viper? Super Mario? Simon Belmont or Megaman? They all were at their finest without talking and cinematics.
>>345057848
How's the pound doing? Have the politicians made good on their promise to deport every immigrant? What did you get for it in return for leaving the EU?
>>345057946
erm all the games you listed have dialog
>>345058029
Its barely been a month has the internet really deluded the passage of time that badly?
>>345057946
>It's the equivalent of a quick time event in the middle of the gameplay.
It doesn't force you to listen to any of it so its nothing like a QTE.
>>345051735
>"Will Nintendo shift development resources to mobile gaming and start developing for smartphones?"
>"This is absolutely not under consideration," replied Iwata. "If we did this, Nintendo would cease to be Nintendo. Having a hardware development team in-house is a major strength. It's the duty of management to make use of those strengths. "
>"It's probably the correct decision in the sense that the moment we started to release games on smartphones we'd make profits. However, I believe my responsibility is not to short term profits, but to Nintendo's mid and long term competitive strength."
>NX comes out
>Isn't region locked
>Actual online
>Backwards Compatible
>New unified account systems and shit
>>345058113
You still can't stop it unless you mute the game, and it hogs up a screen if I remember correctly. Pretty shoddy design decision for a 2 screen handheld.
>>345058089
Only barebones though. And Gradius doesn't. Not even a single line spoken or displayed.
![3171666300000578-3458041-image-m-38_1456138880585[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dXG41ok.jpg "3171666300000578-3458041-image-m-38_1456138880585[1].jpg")
>>345057848
>There is no downside to brexit at all
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>345058221
If its not getting in the way of the gameplay its not cinematic.
>>345058221
>Only barebones though.
moving the goalposts isn't good for your argument
>Gradius doesn't. Not even a single line spoken or displayed.
is that your GOAT autism fetish satifaction?
>>345058350
Among the other issues I mentioned, it's also "cinematic" in the same way that Gone home is. That time and money spent into the voice actors and dialog could've improved the gameplay, or maybe given us some free DLC. Like I said in my very first post, I hate wasteful spending. And it clogs up a screen, that's unforgivable since the 3DS was supposed to be known for 2 screens. that definitely "gets in the way of gameplay"
>>>345058412
Is gradius my GOAT? I'd consider it a very close contender. Pure gameplay with no story hogging any of the limelight. What could be better?
>>345051735
The difference between these two Nintendo presidents.
>>345058221
>Not even a single line spoken or displayed
what about the title screen? credits?
>>345058824
I don't know if that counts as dialogue, since that implies discussion from NPCs, whereas the title screen and credits are just kinda there.
>>345051735
>yfw his whole body is covered in tattoos and his nipples are pierced.
>>345058239
He's stupid for what he said, but if you honestly think that Britain should have stayed in the EU, you're against democracy and completely insane.
>>345051735
>nintendrones raving about smartphone shovelware
You literally
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make this shit up.
>>345051735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEm_wPGgScU
>>345058658
It barely covers any part of the screen and getting rid of the story wouldn't have done anything because stories and voice acting are always made after the game is already completed.
>>345059236
Britain will die outside of the EU. The UK will fall apart next and England will be a weak nobody who gets bullied by the real world powers.
>>345051735
10/10 baitpost
if not how delusional
>>345053498
>>no story, at all. That means not even a single line of dialogue. Your story has to have the length of the original Zelda
But the original Legend of Zelda does have dialogue. Certainly not a lot, but there is some, otherwise there wouldn't be quotes from it like: "It's dangerous to go alone" or "It's a secret to everybody".
>>345059318
If the voice acting and story didn't exist, more money could've been funneled into gameplay and free DLC.
Let me remind you of this: out of Xenoblade, Kid Icarus, and FTL, which one cost the least to make, and as a result had the free DLC?
>>345059357
Why? The EU was a drain on England by both directly taking it's cash, and destroying its industries, and nothing more. I bet you think Switzerland is doing poorly too, don't you? Oh wait, that's one of the most prosperous nations on the face of the Earth, because they lack regulations on their industries, which is exactly the opposite of what the EU does to the nations that lie within it. If you honestly think that leaving the EU wasn't the best long-term decision that Britain has ever made, you're just short-sighted.
>>345051735
Let's see how long Pokemon Go lasts. What Nintendo needs to do is capitalize on the huge appeal of their brands, effectively forcing massive groups of people away from Sony's latest, overhyped games. If Pokemon Go was released at around the same time as, say, TLOU2, the latter would flop and be rendered irrelevant, and would be a huge blow to Sony. Sony lives off hype, Nintendo can out-hype them, but timing needs to be perfect to truly fuck them up.
tl;dr Nintendo needs to steal the relevance away from Sony to get their position back.
>>345051735
Try it with a bit more subtlety next time.
>>345055825
Hey anon, I have an honest question. Do you feel this way about other forms of entertainment or media as well? By that I mean, must a movie be purely visual as that is cinema in its purest form) and must a book lack pictures (as that is an unneeded crutch)? If not, why is it that only videogames get this distinction?
>>345052934
>>worldwide social media discussion
>AKA the same people who universally praised ""games"" like Undertale and TLOU. Like I said, all opinions that should be discarded.
This post is so beautiful, its /v/ right now with Pokemon Go, and whenever something new and catchy is released really
>Gus its popular, look at all the people interested, discussing it!
>B-but these aren't the right people
Oh yes "real gamers" only counts. Fucking hilarious
>They made a lot of money with X, its a success!
>B-but it doesnt count
I'm loving these threads so much, the delusion is supreme
>>345060549
When it comes to other media, everything involved should serve the medium's focus.For example, a book is there to tell a story, right? If it has pictures, they shouldn't just be there for show, they should give a clear visual of the story taking place. A picture says a thousand words after all, right? A movie's job is pure visuals, so if it has voice actors, sound effects, explosions, etc, they should serve the purpose of giving the movie a visual flare. Whether it's Star Wars and the clever use of environment and character interaction to reveal more about the story, or Citizen Kane's genius use of camera angles to display emotion in a scene without even a single word of dialogue.
Same as a video game. if a story has to be there, it needs to serve the gameplay. Otherwise you're just watching a glorified movie.
>>345060579
I'm just saying, I remember alot of popular things this year, whether it was the PS4 surpassing 40 million sales, Fallout 4 garnering 12 millions sales in a single day, or some pretentious indie game reaching critical acclaim because of developer pandering. Being popular is usually a bad sign.
>>345060859
>>345060859
>Being popular is usually a bad sign.
There is literally nothing wrong with PS4 surpassing 40 million sales, Fallout 4 garnering 12 millions sales in a single day. What is your problem man? People arent allowed to have fun if YOU dont like the game?
>>345061139
>there is nothing wrong with being the home of generic FPS games
Name the top 5 selling PS4 games.
>>345061265
I dont know I dont play on console, but that doesnt mean that I'll start judging people who do.
>>345061431
>I dont know
Look it up.
>>345061481
Why? What do you want me to say about my findings?
>>345060859
>a book is there to tell a story, right?
>what is postmodernism
>A movie's job is pure visuals
>what is a musical
>>345060032
>Nintendo needs to steal the relevance away from Sony to get their position back.
If Pokemon GO has proven anything, it's that no one can take Nintendo's position. Their place is in the market is unique only to them, its just up to them to capitalize on it.
>>345058814
I understand. The one nearly killed nintendo and the other saved it.
>>345061913
The PS4 is still destroying the Wii U. Nintendo has a lot of relevance, but not in the console market.
Then again, Sony has the entire video game industry on their side, Nintendo just has themselves.
>>345061916
Kishi hasn't killed Nintendo.
>>345051735
>Iwata dies
>Nintendo gets their shit together
Really makes you think huh?
>>345062106
Nintendo is always relevant.
>>345057713
>>345056618
>nintendo "winning" E3
you can't "win" a series of press conferences
the only "winning" is from actual sales
>>345062290
Not in the eyes of the mainstream industry, however.
>>345060859
>When it comes---
Alright, I think I understand better what your saying and to an extent I agree with you. I miss when games were more gameplay focused and I'm not so much a fan of the overall modern gaming trend. With that said I do still have a place in my heart for games like Ghost Trick and Metal Gear Solid 3 where the story is crucial to the game. With games like these I think it's fair to say that the gameplay is more to accentuate the story rather than the other way around (which isn't to say that the gameplay of those games is bad of course) but I don't necessarily take issue with this inherently. Honestly, so long as the medium of videogames is sufficiently diverse I don't see an issue. I have no problem with people enjoying their Gone Homes or whatever so long as there are still new releases satisfying my niches as well.
>>345051735
>>Beat Sonys entire lineup and won E3 with a single game
hahahaha
>>345062570
>Not in the eyes of the mainstream industry, however.
Who do you think keeps helping them hit these booms? It's not like magical fairies show up, buy all their shit, then vanish into the air. People always track and keep an eye on Nintendo. They just don't always buy in. Nintendo just needs to find a way to consistently tap into the potential.
>>345062290
Not really. They are treated as secondary to everything.
>>345062940
So? Nintendo has never been one being offensive against other companies. Suppressing the competition has always been Sony's thing.
>>345062901
These are the games that sell the PS4 and Xbox One. These are the games people want. These are the games that Nintendo doesn't have.
>>345061530
>what is postmodernism
A decrepit idealogy that relies on the physiological equivalent of "I was only pretending to be retarded".
>>345051735
All things well in progress when he stepped in.
We'll know if he's a faggot or not in about 3 more years.
>>345062726
Here's the problem: I take issue with it because it's missing the point, and potential, of the entire medium.
To use one of /v/'s patent pending analogies, "A game with a heavy emphasis on story is like a movie that only has text". You're not making the most of the materials available to you. An example would be in order, I suppose:
Take Kingdom Hearts 2. A game I don't like. Combat is too float, too many cutscenes to skip. However, Final Mix did something very nice: they turned the Sora X Roxas cutscene into a playable boss battle. And with it they did something that no cutscene could ever hope to accomplish; they gave weight and intensity behind the character's actions. See, when a character is in a tight situation, and a cutscene is playing, it's hard to care. The game will pull them out of it eventually. but when you're playing the character, their life depends on you and how badly you want them to live. I think this term was coined "player agency".
Pic related. The same phenomenon can be observed if you evaluate a game like Half Life to a more "cinematic" game like Bioshock: infinite.
>>345055203
>>345055341
>>345055053
If you use a DVD on a 1080p TV you are doing it wrong.
The most a DVD player can output is 720x480
>>345064119
God damn that bridge section was the fucking best. HL2 was great in a lot of ways.
>>345059357
the UK has nukes, bro.
What you're talking about will never happen to a country with nukes.
>>345052108
>Nintendo owns 1/3 of the Pokémon company
They might as well own 100% they own a third and they own another company that owns a third. It's basically business shit to offset taxes and keep control of everything
>>345051735
>People complain that Iwata was paving the way for mobile cancer
>People claim that Kimishima will save Nintendo from this path
>Kimisha fully embraces mobile cancer
On the one hand, it's nice seeing Iwata-haters BTFO.
On the other hand, Nintendo is dead.
>>345052114
Exaggeration. Come on now.
>>345052140
Stop liking things I don't like
>>345064119
The issue about player agency is misleading here because in HL2's scenario you are unable to progress at all until you do the 'right' choice. It's little more than a flavour option with no actual consequence not much different from Infinite's example you brought up (binary choice, same final outcome).
You should've used a better example like FO:NV or something with true player agency.
>>345051735
yeah they won e3 with a shit open world game that looks like it's straight out of the n64 era.
>>345065131
I'm not sure if I can agree. The "right" choice simply revolves around an interaction with the scene. You can put it in the trash, or throw it at him, and the game won't stop you or "guilt" you for picking the wrong choice, ala most RPGs nowadays. Not a perfect example, I know, but it is a game from the early 2000's.
>>345064119
Again I agree with you but I still feel that there is a place in the medium for games that accentuate their story. This is not to say that it should be the majority of games (or even a fairly sizable minority) but is more to say that it is not inherently bad for a game to focus on story. It is only bad for the medium as a whole when it gets out of hand.
Since I mentioned it earlier let's use Ghost Trick as an example. I would argue that Ghost Trick is a game that is more about the overall plot rather than the gameplay. Despite this I would say that Ghost Trick, from how it presented, makes most sense in a videogame format rather than any other form. For example, there are visual queue's to the reveals of the plot that are foreshadowed such as howsissel's range is less than missle's. Now it could certainly be stated in a story in a satisfactory manner, however I think that having that range distinction fits much better for a game since the player gets to feel out how sizable it is and fit it better spatially in the scope of the world.
>>345051735
>Andriod 5.1 isn't supported by GO
>Can only use phone's online features while on Wifi (can still make calls and texts without wifi)
I guess not being a normie has finally caught up to me.
>>345066998
Additionally it affects how a player goes about puzzles which makes sense thematically for a detective theme where the story itself is arguably a puzzle
>>345066998
Well, let's come to this conclusion then: as long as the story is helping the gameplay in some way, then I can see it belonging within the general frame of the game, and improving it.
My limit, though, has to be games like Metal Gear Movie. 8 hours of cutscenes is just too much for any gameplay to salvage.
>>345067148
it supports android 4.4 to 6.01
maybe your phone doesn't meet the 2gb ram requirement
Just install the APK like I did on my moto E 2nd gen
>>345067430
I've heard most of those sites are unsecure and have some virus in them.
Is there a legit one?
>>345067340
Yeah, alright, I think that's fair enough.
>>345051735
Pokemon Go has made Nintendo realize that the console race is not their future. They will be pursuing adults using formats that do not require a large investment in a new platform. First Pokemon Go, and now a plug & play NES TV game console, which is something Iwata would have never supported. They might even support the PC, PS4 and Xbone.
>>345067609
>They might even support the PC
Nah.
>>345067572
apkmirror.com is safe
>>345067685
It will start with a Facebook version of Animal Crossing.
Post yfw the Yakuzacolypse and Nintendo's returning rein of terror both happen in your lifetime
>>345067780
You mean browser games, then. They won't ever put actual games on PC when even publishers are avoiding PC nowadays, to say nothing of the Japanese.
>>345067685
They will support the PC before the PS4 or Xbone.
>It's OK when Nintendo does it is actually real
Fuck all this pokemon go stuff how the fuck can they show one game and have you guys still claiming they won E3 it's insulting
>>345068105
>Japanese publishers port old games to PC, nothing new
>western publishers are jumping ship from PC
>Nintendo, of all people, is going to support a platform everyone is avoiding
>>345052614
Fuck off Dan Halen.
>>345051735
>Nintendo won E3
yawn
>>345068105
They already did.
>>345068391
If Sony did it with the PS1 I would be okay with it as well.
>>345054349
This is how you get shit like sticker stars and Paper Mario color splash.
Story IS important.
Yakuza-san WILL make you understand
>>345051735
can someone fucking shop him as a demon or some damn jojo character, or even in the style of the yakuza games? he is making us understand.
>>345067430
>2gb limit
First time I've heard of this and I've already installed it on a redmi 1s with 1gb ram from the playstore.
>>345071704
weird. I was unable to find the app on my Moto E 2nd gen with 1gb of ram so I had to side load it from APKmirror
Must be a fluke or something.
