>people are already referring to human revolution as "the first one".
>more and more people saying they can't play the original because it's too "dated"
How long before this
>>345031257
How does the Missing Link even work in the Director's Cut edition? I just played it when it was DLC unconnected to the main game, so what happens with all the augs you had beforethat part in Director's Cut? What about after? Or you you just keep everything?
>>345030718
>I just want Denton back as the protagonist.
why? The more they tackle the original story, they'll end up fucking things up, they clearly have inferior writers at eidos montreal.
They should just make a nanoaug era Deus Ex.
Try a side story, without touching places that the original had, try something like somewhere in Germany, Tokyo, and some other town of the US and or Canada. Maybe Chicago?
That way they could just expand the universe of Deus Ex without having to carefully walk around established content.
>>345032020
>why? The more they tackle the original story, they'll end up fucking things up, they clearly have inferior writers at eidos montreal.
The great thing about Deus Ex was that the material wrote itself since it's based on real world conspiracies. Somewhere along the line some writer at Eidos Montreal forgot that.
>>345032020
I'm telling you man, make it so you play as Paul. He never said which Denton
>>345031494
>its a "i posted it again" chapter
>>345032161
That would be fucking great. It's been quite a few years since i completed DX but what notable things did Paul do when he wasn't on screen and separated from his brother?
>>345031805
I finished the Director's Cut game a few months ago, basically the DLC stuff happens as you play through the game, once Jensen enters that pod thing after Tracer makes him blow up that room or building or whatever Jensen wakes up on that ship and the DLC starts, then the regular game starts after you're done.
>>345032154
Conspiracies just aren't as fun as they were in early 2000-2001.
>>345032020
I guess you're right. I just wish they'd make another good DX game where you plat as Denton.
>>345031805
No idea, I played it as a DLC too.
You probably keep everything you find in the DLC plus at the end you find all your belongings in a box or something and you get your praxis points back.
>>345032161
They'll end up fucking up terribly. I'd rather have a new character for the nanoaug era, they'll have to write the game around the events of DX, which could end up badly.
Those are the same people who are making a game about "mechanical apartheid" with a straight face
>>345032292
>>345032385
Yeah I forgot to mention, you get all your stuff back at the end plus all the praxis that was drained from you, and everything you earned in the DLC.
>>345032292
They should've kept the Missing Lin DLC as a separate thing you could access in Director's Cut. Placing it into the main story really fucked with the flow of gameplay.
>>345032431
It's not like the WTC wasn't already the victim of a terrorist attack at that point.
>>345032161
Are they really going to make another game where you play as a Denton? Source?
>>345032576
No I'm saying that's what they should do.
>more and more people saying they can't play the original because it's too "dated"
How long before this
Who said this? I'm pretty sure the Normies never cared considering this game's nature is all about Conspiracy First and Augmented Shootan comes second.
I finally got around to playing this game after seeing people here rave about it for years. Deus Ex? More like Deuce Sex, because this game is fucking shit.
I start the game, and some old guys are talking about some boring shit. Something about a plague, I guess. The only cool part was when they were talking about me being a supersoldier.
My hopes were dashed as soon as the game started. Considering I'm a "nano-aug" (what the fuck does that even mean?) the fact that I die in a handful of pistol shots is shitty.
Guns and melee in this game are both broken. It takes forever to line up a shot and bullets do laughable damage.
I couldn't even bear to finish playing the first level. Fuck this game, and fuck /V/ for calling this turd a great game.
>>345031824
Pt.2
The solution to this is admittedly quite radical. We would have to dispense with the old Enlightenment ideal of progress towards some universalized humanity. We would even have to be able to say no to technological 'advancement' that is contrary to our human interests. But the idea of the New Dark Age is less material than philosophical:
>As long as technology has a global reach, someone will have the world in the palm of his hand. If not Bob Page, then Everett, Dowd...
>Not so drastic. A dark age, an age of city-states, craftsmen, government on a scale comprehensible to its citizens.
Society is best when it exists on a level comprehensible to the average person. Any attempt to construct global New World Order, whether through the subtle actions of an elite few or through the promise of technological transcendence, will invariably lost their interest in humanity.
Hey bros this had been bothering me for quite sometime and I just can't trouble myself to install the game just to find out so here goes.
Does anyone remember in the early parts of a game a news feed on the tv or something that says London has a new Muslim mayor and New Manila ousted a communist president?
I'm pretty sure it was deus ex i
>>345032619
Sorry, thought you were >>345031164
>>345032725
I am, I was just talking in the form of wish fulfillment
>When Paul Denton was five, Majestic 12 scientists determined that his physique and genetic makeup were the most suitable for the nano-augmentation project. His immune system was excellent, yet he had no allergic reactions to non-biological foreign materials in his body. He also had no predispositions to myopia, obesity, or heart disease, and he was highly intelligent.
>The scientists selected Paul as their test subject. Now they needed to find the precise spots in his brain where the nanites could intercept neural transmissions and convert them to commands. (These spots are different for every human being.) They also needed to implant nano-augmentations in Paul's body and test them.
>Since Paul himself was considered too valuable to experiment on, Majestic 12 scientists created a number of clones of Paul. These clones were allowed to grow until their brains (especially the language centers) were fully developed. Then the scientists performed experiments on each of the child clones, trying to find the "sweet spots" in the brain that would allow the clones to control nanites and receive information.
>>345032325
Delta Green had a problem similar to that. 9/11 changed the political landscape so much that the conspiracy-heavy Delta Green had to change the tone of later supplements. And funnily enough, it made the Targets of Opportunity book more viable because it was felt that in the mid-to-late 90s, the "grand guignol" approach of what could become said book didn't fit the the tone of Delta Green.
Finding Delta Green and Deus Ex at roughly the same time has made my current setting holy grail a mix of cyberpunk and cosmic horror. Especially if it has an 80s view of the future.
Whoever mentioned the GMDX mod last thread, thank you.
I was never really sold on mods for it, but this one looks amazing. Adds a shit ton of extra detail and features without fucking up the feel of the original.
Mankind Divided is going to be shit. Fucking mechanical apartheid.
>>345033069
>Fucking mechanical apartheid.
Yep...as if it hasn't been done to death already.
>>345031805
Simple.
>Total reset when you get to that segment.
>When you get to portion where hacker leaves Praxis kits for you, he leaves your guns in that area as well but only the guns, not the ammo.
>When you talk to him at the end, you regain control briefly and find the rest of your shit including lost praxis kits in a box right in front of the cyro pod you're supposed to climb into.
>>345033117
>as if it hasn't been done to death already.
What other games actually do that though?
>>345032712
How do we know the world is screwed up because of our current societal views and goals, or whether humanity has always been screwed up and we only know this now because we finally have the technology and methods to identify the problems?
>I think there's a bug in my copy of Deus Ex. I just can't get on the damn boat!
what did he mean by this?
>>345033285
He forgot he was playing Berserk.
>>345033239
Human Revolution
>>345033283
That's a possibility, sure, but it still assumes a progressive view of history
>>345033404
>done to death
>one game
>the game that preceded it
I don't think you know what "done to death" means.
"There are so many kind of hypocritical, intersecting dialogs in our industry," Eidos Montreal's Jonathan Jacques-Belletete told Polygon in an interview.
"It’s a form of art, the people outside don’t think it’s art, it’s just stupid games. We’re fighting against those people. And then when we’re dealing with serious subjects suddenly we’re treated as little kids that are just doing video games again. This whole thing is completely ridiculous."
He went to discuss why the term is appropriate for the game.
"Deus Ex is about the human nature, it’s about the human condition through its own motifs, which is transhumanism, a lot of the way we’re treating it since we’re into the franchise," he continued.
"Humans will be bad to each other forever, as far as I’m considered. Segregating people that one caste, things are wrong or dangerous or inferior is a thing that will always sadly happen. Obviously we’re not condoning it, it’s an analogy for how sucky humanity is and showing it how it can happen in the future that deals with the technology we’re dealing with."
WELP
>>345033285
Tried to jump on the police boat at the beginning of the game instead of activating it?
>>345033528
Fuck off HRdrone.
Can someone explain to me why the "dark ages" ending isn't bullshit?
I mean shit, sure there would be initial chaos but it would take a year to regain some communication network, a proto-internet network in Europe, US and southern Asia. It's not like the telephone cables just vanished the moment JC blew up Helios. In 10 years everything would be back at the same point. I mean really people forget that Internet is just a glorified LAN. Even shit in cloud isn't just magic dust, it's all running on physical server hubs, all it takes is just to power them up, connect a CAT5 and you're back in action.
MD looks decent as a HR 2.0 but I'm not really feeling it.
The plot and characters don't really seem that intriguing. I'm mostly just looking forward to hopefully wrecking aug-haters.
It also seems a lot more cutscene heavy, and having mini-cutscenes for interacting with stuff in your apartment makes my internal alarm go off.
And there's just some minor stuff that puts me off like the cinematic takedowns honestly looking and feeling worse than those from HR, and other details like augs that can insta-take down several enemies at once.
>>345031494
People were already referring to Human Revolution
as "the second one", so it's no surprise that people are now calling HR the first one.
Really, I don't see why people think Deus Ex is dated, I replay that shit at least once a year and it feels good every time.
>>345033069
this mech apartheid shit sounds so contrived and stupid
if augs are going haywire and killing people why people don't.. remove them? Or find a way to crack the shit open to neutralize whatever is causing the madness. Having to go as far as to segregate people because they're potentially killing machines is just so damn stupid.
not to mention the whole aug racism angle they're pushing with this
>>345033539
>it’s an analogy for how sucky humanity is
Prime word choice right there.
>>345033657
Well it didn't last, that's what IW showed.
>>345033069
Honestly I would not be surprised, the last one was not bad, but that's because it was made by Eidos.
Square has this thing for fucking shit up.
>>345033764
I'd agree with you, but when you look at the current state of much of the world currently, you realize that most of humanity really is fucking retarded.
>>345033710
maybe they're implying the second one made by eidos
>>345033657
From a realism standpoint, yeah it doesn't make sense. But Tong implies that there will be (or he hopes there will be) a social and/or philosophical change that will redirect the course of humanity
>>345033850
IW is a mishmash of all the endings, they couldn't go balls deep into any of themunless they did a single good choice in IW development process and picked a "canon" ending and actually developed itunless it would be the Illuminati ending at which point it's basically a clean start like the events of the first game didn't even happen
Anybody that likes Deus Ex should seriously watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPKQsSRB9Dc
Warren Spector gives his thoughts on the direction of the new Mankind Divided as well as the new write. Hearing both of them talking about what makes deus ex special to them is fascinating, you also get a good idea of the different philosophies between the new and the old. They actually disagree at some points as well.
I have a friend that thinks it is dated, but he plays games with similar graphics. Then I found out he was just a libertarian faggot.
>>345034118
You give people too much credit. These are the same people who think Skyrim was the first Elder Scrolls and Fallout 3 was the first Fallout.
>>345034265
>of Mankind Divided as well as the new writer*
>>345034265
>some bitch writing the story
No wonder MD looks and will be shit.
>>345033710
>Really, I don't see why people think Deus Ex is dated
Because of the low poly blurry texture graphics? Because of the core game mechanics, the aiming, moving about, AI, hit detection, etc.
It's far from modern so ofc it's dated, what else would you call it?
Sure it might feel good if it's your bowl of soup but that doesn't change the fact that it's dated. Shooters/RPG's haven't worked like this for over a decade.
>>345034589
Yeah, what happened to Pacotti?
>>345033539
I like the Eidos Montreal devs for their gumption at least.
>>345034091
No, the way they're portraying the "conflict" is beyond dumb.
So there's a trailer showing a woman who nearly killed her husband because of her mechanical arm by strangling him, as an example of the problems of augs.
So the obvious thing to do would be to get rid of the fucking arm, get a very cheap prosthetic arm, get one like pic related, or just don't have anything, if that means you can easily become a killing machine.
Instead they go with eidos montreal logic
>hurr I'm fine with my aug leg nearly killing my kids via stomping them, fuck getting crutches or a wheelchair, everything will be fine
They clearly didn't think things through. They could also avoid getting them after the first game had those episodes where people with augs couldn't even move
>>345033764
The random killing is over, the apartheid is the result of people's bias against augs from the events of the last game where they went crazy. The issue with augs is that you can't just take someones limbs away, and all of them have a heavy reliance on drugs to make their limbs work.
>>345034608
Christ, do you millenials actually think this?
Anyone who's played Half-Life 2 won't have a hard time adjusting to the original Deus Ex controls, if your thing is shooting and such then just mash all your points into shooting so you don't have to aim at the enemy for a few secs before firing.
>>345033657
It's canonically bullshit.
>>345034651
Funny enough, he actually liked the direction that human revolution took.
https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/01/ex-deus-ex-writer-sheldon-pacotti-on-massive-reactions-in-cell/
>>345034878
By that standard, all of the endings are "canonically bullshit"
>>345034763
I haven't really been reading much up on the lore surrounding MD, but that does indeed sound pretty stupid.
Not sure if the excuse is simply #StopAugShaming or what.
>>345034872
>won't have a hard time adjusting to the original Deus Ex controls
See? You have to ADJUST to the controls which literally means that it's dated.
And I actually like the game, but it's dated, doesn't mean it's bad.
>>345035002
I mean, they pretty much are. There's a reason the Illuminati ending mirrors the intro. That's dystopia for you.
>>345034763
Plus we have electronic augs now that wouldn't hurt anybody like Deus Ex ones. The concept is idiotic, I bet they just couldn't think of a better story.
>>345035096
Fuck off HRdrone.
>Daily reminder Human Revolution takes place 10 years from now
>>345034608
>Shooters/RPG's haven't worked like this for over a decade.
Examples? I can think of HR and EYE, where HR is even more awkward with the 3rd person leaning mechanic and EYE is just HL2 with spells.
>>345034265
>Warren Spector gives his thoughts on the direction of the new Mankind Divided as well as the new writer
A summary would be nice, I can't watch right now, so does he like the direction and the new writer or what?
>>345035096
>Adjusting yourself to your current situation is bad, the situation should adjust itself to you!!1!
This is what makes most new games bad, no innovation or freedom, they build a linear path, make a few branching walkways here to give the player an illusion of freedom but eventually just ends up being the same.
DX has huge levels with so many twists and turns it's easy to get lost, and this is not a bad thing, it adds immense depth and makes the game fun, you'll have to play and figure out what to do yourself rather than being pointed in one direction and then gun/beat down every enemy in your way.
>>345034265
33:15
Yep, it's going 'refuges are augmented' route, you just afraid of them, you fucking bigot because they are different. It's going to be so much fun guys, brb preordering.
ok so I played an hour of GMDX but I feel like half the features it listened aren't in my game
>>345035703
Was there a reason for her to be completely silent?
I heard that she is in the Icarus Effect but I haven't got around to reading it yet. Is she silent in the novel, too?
>>345035294
Didn't much care for HR.
>>345035361
Borderlands, it plays like a modern video game.
The literal definition of dated is something that feels old-fashioned, which DX1 obviously does because it's around 15 years old.
I don't know why people take offense over this though like it's a bad thing or something? Most games from the 90's and early 00's are dated, because technology evolves and gameplay gets more streamlined and intuitive which changes the overall feel of the game. It happens with every other genre too.
>>345035938
I just realized that she didn't say a word in the game, I guess it just adds to how amazing HR's bosses are.
>>345035821
I'm not sure if you replied to a wrong post, but I never said any of the things you implied in your post.
Like you just said yourself, it's different from modern games, which means it's dated.
>75 people killed 100 wounded in paris just now
wew
>>345036015
Of course it does "dated" has a lot of negative connotations.
>>345036315
And just who it might be I wonder...
>>345036315
Again?!
Good God, we really are living in a Deus Ex world
>>345036823
>Again?!
Yup, fucking animals. RT stream here.
https://www.rt.com/on-air/
>>345036015
Because while I see your point in graphics and gameplay mechanics but you mentioned stuff like movement, hit detection and shooting, which is literally the same as any FPS since Quake. One could argue that AI actually regressed back since days of FEAR and Crysis.
>>345031494
squeenix deus ex games are kinda their own thing, so calling HR "the first one" in context of discussing them don't make me angry.
>>345031805
>How does the Missing Link even work in the Director's Cut edition?
by completely killing the pacing of the game
DC was a mistake
>>345033539
>Deus Ex is about the human nature
I thought it was about conspiracies
>>345034265
>They actually disagree at some points
Shit's awkward
>>345031494
Except that's right.
I could play doom 1 perfectly. But I can't stand playing original deus ex and games like system shock 1&2, they just don't age well.
>>345037083
It's kind of about human nature, but in much more of the macro sense
>>345037224
If they just agreed with each other the whole time, it wouldn't be an interesting conversation
I could never manage to configure the controls to something I liked, so I ended up dropping it after the tutorial level on multiple occasions.
>>345037378
You sound fucking stupid.
>>345035837
>Deus Ex has finally gone to shit
Never thought I would've seen it happen so soon.
What other games do exploring and world-building as well as Deus Ex?
>>345036120
>how amazing HR's bosses are
They have no personality, you mostly get introduced to them before the fights, it's lazily done, compare it to Gunther and Ana in Deus Ex. HR just rehashed those two, but killed anything interesting about them. Fedorova is pseudo Ana, Barrett is pseudo Gunther.
>>345037346
>It's kind of about human nature
No it's about conspiracies. Fuck off.
So I'm playing GMDX with kentie launcher, DX10, and the default setting looks way too dark. I'm wondering how well lit Liberty Island is, because I remember being able to do shit in it.
Now if you type preferences in the chatbox, and turn ClassicLighting false, it looks more lit, but I'm not sure if it's supposed to look like that.
is there a config guide somewhere?
>>345037672
And Namir is supposed to be pseudo-Walton Simons, right?
>>345034763
>have limbs to be required to work in an autistic mode
>no more problems
Stupid decision to have them linked to your Facebook and Google account and have all the chips be of the same design from one manufacturer in the first place.
>>345036904
>ISIS literally fucking themselves over in the long term instead of peacefully integrating and slowling outbreeding Euros
You know you fucked up when you're an ethnic minority and Germans start talking about you like a "problem"
>>345037664
Dishonored. It closely follows deux ex formula in general
>>345037761
Post pics. Also, does GMDX has that Thief climb thingy like Biomod?
>>345037774
No, just some Mr McBadguy
>>345037672
I thought I should of put 'amazing' in quotes but forgot for some reason. I know they suck, everyone knows it. Sorry for misleading you.
>>345031494
Human Revolution is the first one chronologically.
>>345037919
I mean Walton Simons in the way that Simons was supposed to be a twisted mirror image of the protagonist. Simons had the same nanoaugs (better even) as JC, and Jaron Namir is even more mechanically augmented than Adam.
>>345037851
GMDX has mantling yea, but I disabled it.
Gimme a sec, I'm going to post pictures since you can't alt tab
>>345038060
Yeah, i guess you right.
>>345037851
How weird, now the game's lighting looks better, now that I want to take pictures with it.
Here's DX10 with Classiclighting False
>>345038707
Godamn that looks ugly.
>>345038060
I didn't even think about them in this way, I don't know if it's flattering or even more insulting this way
>>345036315
A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world.
>>345038707
DX10 classic lighting true
this used to be dark as fuck for some reason
>>345033069
stop being cynical just so you can shitpost faggot
>>345034589
she wrote dxhr too you idiot
>>345038992
and here's OpenGL
>>345038992
>>345039124
HR aged badly.
I got to Paris in the original and it was pretty bad.
>20 min preview
>that guy at the beginning yelling some shit in arab
>mfw you can read in DX1 about Islam fucking Europe's shit up
>>345039002
>>345039097
Fuck off HRdrones.
>>345031494
I played the original at release.
HR is easier to play.
You don't have to install several mods to make it playable.
You don't have to spend 5 minutes rebinding the controls.
You don't have to install another mod or two to fix the resolution.
It's less tedious to play HR than 1.
Also dhr is the first one chronologically speaking in the games timeline.
>>345039425
>you can read in DX1 about Islam fucking Europe's shit up
post the exact note
>>345039425
fuck off
>>345038992
>>345038707
The upped contrast doesn't really work with the sprites and even those textures. Just look at the "lens flares" and the striped pavement, which I presume is the artist trying to be true to the original, which was 16bit palette if I'm not mistaken.
>>345037664
Thief.
>>345039562
>install several mods to make it playable
>install another mod or two to fix the resolution
Deus Exe is one thing.
>>345039610
>Middle East
>The Middle East has long been under the control of the Illuminati, and later, Majestic 12. These groups held the reins on international terrorists based in the region, and the Bilderberg Group controlled the oil companies that had a stranglehold on the regions finances.
>With the successful pan-Arab invasion of Israel in 2022, Majestic 12 control of the region is total.
My bad, it was Israel not Europe and I guess it's not canon.
http://www.nanoaugur.net/dx/bible/
>>345039562
HRdrones confirmed for being too stupid to play a simple game.
Stick with the prod.
Prod with the prod.
Just in case though, we're police.
>>345039946
>>345039439
do you have any other argument aside from "HRdrone"?
how does it make me stupid in any way? I'd rather not have to install several mods to make a game playable.
That does not equate to me being unable to. I'd just rather not.
With HR you don't have to install any mods. That's convenient.
>>345039562
Do you also play Metal Gear/watch Star Wars in chronological order
>>345040112
>I'd rather not have to install several mods to make a game playable.
>>345039810
>>345040126
no, but "the first star wars" means either episode 1 or episode 4
>>345032702
Here's your (You), now vanish
>>345039562
>playable
Vanilla Deus Ex is perfectly playable, people install mods to make it look better.
Now Human Revolution on top of flaws with the gameplay, doesn't have modding support. Mankind Divided is probably going to follow suit, being a given since it's using Denuvo.
>>345040112
So what you're saying is, you'd rather eat shit because it's convenient. Glad to hear that.
>>345040486
Oh I get it, you're one of those STALKERfags and New Vegafags who claim your games are amazing but only if you install hundreds of mods.
>>345036904
>click on link
>first words I hear are "Donald Trump"
>>345040951
No, Deus Ex looks like ass. It looked like ass even back when it came out. A lot of those recommended mods for first time playthroughs make the game look less like ass.
>>345034265
I'm not a fan of "aim at cover and press X to automatically move there"
>>345040630
there's no need to be a cunt about it anon
>>345031494
>HR is good
>game consists of navigating through vents and offices
>press X to takedown
>have to eat candy bars to be able to do one button takedowns
>no environmental exploration rewards
>no doors that can be forced by bashing into them or using explosives
>visual style that doesn't match the original's grim world at all
>augs dumbed down severely and many are contextual only
>some of the worst bossfights in any videogame
Why do people like this shit again?
>>345040951
but vanilla vegas and stalker are both amazing games
go back reddit
>>345041516
Fucking this.
>>345041516
because you don't have to rebind keys apparently
>>345041516
I could point out the negatives of dx1 in a neat list too and be just as retarded as you
>Thread has devolved into HR vs DX and bashing the other game
Well, it was fun while it lasted.
>>345040951
>Vanilla Deus Ex is perfectly playable
>claim your games are amazing but only if you install hundreds of mo
Did you have a stroke while you were writing this?
>>345041696
But you have to...
>>345039562
It takes less time to patch up Deus Ex than it does to sit through HR's shitty introduction.
>>345042061
you're just mad that your shitty game is not liked around here
>>345034265
>non-lethal typhoon
neat
>>345041431
that was in HR. You get shot if you do it in line of sight of hostiles.
>>345042421
>that hud
fucking disgusting
>>345042421
>implying it was acceptable in HR
Fuck off.
>>345042496
>currently in development
>>345042582
>B-BUT IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT
Fuck off HRdrone
>>345042421
was it a console thing? I don't remember look at cover and click to move there.
I also wish they would limit the awareness tools like the wallhack and the minimap, you have 300 ways to see where everyone is, and another 400 ways to kill them or knock them out.
Feels a bit excessive when you can knock 4 guys out at a distance from a corner shot. It's like Bam Ham Nig, the fear takedowns allowing you to put 4 guys out was excessive.
>>345042727
it was in the PC. you get a little thought bubble or whatever that appears showing jensen doing a roll to get to some other side.
>>345042663
what is this HRdrone meme? it's the first i've ever heard of it. I thought we only disliked shit games. Are we not allowed to like things that are good now? HR is one of the very few games /v/ recommended that i thoroughly enjoyed.
>>345042989
>I thought we only disliked shit games.
HR is a shit game that no one ever liked. Now fuck off.
>>345031494
Their loss.
>>345043156
The leak of HR changed /v/'s opinion for the better, five years ago. You fuck off.
>>345032723
In the first deus ex all the news feeds are gibberish.
>>345043437
And then the game came out and everyone realized how shit it was. Now fuck off and kill yourself.
>>345037612
It already happened with Invisible Wars
>>345033886
Eidos is making this one too, Square Enix is the publisher for both Human Revolution and Mankind Divided.
>>345032325
they were more "fun" before you realized the Conspiracy is real. The redpill makes Dood Sex terrifying because you realize we're already in it.
The overwhelming majority of people who love the original but hate HR are contrarian nostalgiafags.
Apart from maybe the plot, I literally can't think of anything that the original Deus Ex does better than HR. It's hardly an Elder Scrolls scenario where things are getting progressively dumbed down. The exploration, stealth, RPG growth, and combat are still there in full force. They're just smoother.
>>345044127
>RPG growth
no
>>345044127
How can one man have such shit tastes?
>>345044283
Because he's an HR babby that couldn't get into Dx
>>345034608
the moving about? what the fuck? did you even use fast running aug to turn the game into fucking prototype? shit, install biomod and level athletics skill on top of that and scale fuckin buildings.
hit detection is fine, aiming is acceptable if you take popular modern games like CS:GO as an example of what's acceptable. this entire post sounds like it was made by someone who didn't level any skills throughout the entire game.
>>345035837
Fucking canadians.
>>345044127
>It's hardly an Elder Scrolls scenario where things are getting progressively dumbed down.
That's exactly what happened though. The takedowns, the third person stealth view, the obvious secondary routes, the level design,the story, boss fights, etc. were all dumbed down and are noticeably worse in HR. The only thing it did better was combat, stealing your way through was just going into third person and doing takedowns.
>>345044127
HR is less of an RPG than Fallout 4 which is saying something
>>345031494
I cant play human revolution because its too dated.
>>345035938
>>345036120
the fact there is no rule34 of her is a grave injustice
>>345044127
I played the original Deus Ex for the first time in 2015 and got the Helious ending. It's currently one of my favorite games of all time. I hate it when fags like you use the "you only like it because of nostalgia" argument as a way to defend their shit taste.
>>345044721
So that means the Nazis won WW2 right? And Oswald actually lost to JFK?
>>345043156
>>345043554
>everyones opinions are my own because, as we all know, i am /v/, and everyone else here is retarded (but not me)
dehr was a good, fun game with solid replay value.
for as much as you firmly state that everyone hates dehr, you seem to be rather outnumbered here.
>>345045743
yes, france is winning right now
>>345045340
HR has aged way faster than Dx
>>345032702
This. Also to the people replying with "bait" or "(you)", just known that you look like a fucking idiot without an argument.
>Reminder that the next 3 deus ex games are rumored to be a mass effect style trilogy where your choices carry over
>>345047228
pretty much, HR was outdated at release
Dishonored proved you can have a big buget game giving full control to the player, a lesson that Eidos Montreal seems to have missed completely, given their MD material so far
>>345047764
Not to mention fucking Thi4f.
>>345047764
>Dishonored
Well that because the man behind dx1 created dishonored as well. Very underated dev
>>345047756
HR is shittier than ME3 anyway. Fucking garbage.
>>345047756
Bull fucking shit, your choices in HR didnt carry over from act to act.
>>345047903
who?
>>345047946
>the next 3 deus ex games
>NEXT
Not HR.
http://www.nowgamer.com/deus-ex-universe-details-leaked/
>>345047980
Harvey Smith was a designer on 1 and the reason iw wasnt very good
>>345047980
Harvey Smith
Dishonored and Deus Ex play more alike than Human Revolution and Deus Ex.
>>345048069
Eidos is retconning the original so no one knows how shitty their games are.
>>345047903
>>345048112
>>345048130
why did noone tell me this before?
i mightve actually been interested in dishonoured if i knew it was a deus-ex-alike by the same lead designer.
>>345048565
>A separate source has also told PS Trophies that they have seen promotional material for a game called Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and that the material features Deus Ex: Human Revolution protagonist Adam Jensen and Ben Saxon from mobile title, Deus Ex: The Fall.
Welp its legit, this leak was from 2014
>>345031494
>I'm too retarded to understand why a reboot of an old franchise with different gameplay and a continuous plot seperate from the original might be seen as its own series
What biomods should be top priority?
>>345032925
The new edition of Delta Green is fucking great if you haven't looked yet.
Playing IW right now, I like the atmosphere and setting. Too bad about the loading times.
Also Alex isn't exactly as hilarious as JC.
My toaster won't even let me play it properly. It's either shit framerate or a shitton of screen tearing. I've bought both the steam and GOG versions, too.
>>345049527
I've been meaning to for a while, since I've been hearing it's much better than CoC 7th edition.
>>345049160
>reboot
shows how much you know you fucking moron
>>345049737
Most of the old threats have died off, new ones have popped up, a portion of DG went legit and merged with what was left off MJ-12 while the rest stayed cowboy, and the new rules are great.
"Need To Know" is the free quickstart.
>>345049527
Is that a pen and paper rpg?
>>345049672
Try to download different render.
http://www.cwdohnal.com/utglr/
Or use nglide, it's already in gog version.
>>345050284
Yeah. To sum it up quick it's Call of Cthulhu meets X-Files, only it's older than X-Files by like a year I think.The Greys are a front for the mi-go,the Reagan government made pact with them through Majestic-12, and theIlluminati are a bunch of Azathoth cultists trying to ascend to his court based in Sweden.And the PCs were people involved in a government Mythos investigation force that went rogue after a botched operation in 'Nam (or at least involved with them in some way), until what >>345050018 says happened.
>>345031494
Remember when the original Deus Ex creators made Deus Ex 2 and completely annihilated the franchise and really fucked up to the 10th degree? I do, I was alive for it unlike most people in this thread.
Unlike most diehard DX fans I do hold that game to a truly high regard, but HR was an incredible game, filled with fun gameplay, smart writing and most of all, felt like a modern Deus Ex in a way that if DX was made today that's exactly how it was going to play.
I honestly never thought that they could make another Deux Ex, consider they fucked up so bad with invisible war that the series was just so fucked beyond repair what was even the point honestly?
But really people who hate HR but love DX 1 are retarded because both are amazing games even if DX is a better game, HR is a really really close second.
Honestly, if this game does well they should just time skip to the end of DX 1 and completely ignore DX 2 and make a new timeline that isn't trash. These people have the talent to handle the franchise with the respect it deserves.
>>345034265
I am 10 minutes in and I see no Warren Specter
Where is he?
>>345051059
around 14 minutes
>>345051013
Oh yeah, I also forgot the Nazi occultists in Brazil that consist of an immortal SS cannibal, an undead doctor who can't leave his freezer, and a Nazi wizard who think he's worshiping the ghost of an ascended Hitlerwho is actually Nyarlathotep.
>>345051013
Soundsawesome
>>345050284
Yup. DELTA GREEN is a conspiracy within the United States' government dedicated to fighting the Cthulhu Mythos, disavowed and on the run since the Vietnam War. Characters die or go insane frequently, and the unlucky few who survive wind up burning all of their relationships as their vigil consumes their life.
No fancy toys, no magic powers, just men and women in cheap suits trying to delay the apocalypse just one more day.
>>345051097
I just got there.
>"Uh-oh, there are people leaving."
WHAT KIND OF CUNTS LEAVE AFTER WARREN FUCKING SPECTOR GETS ON STAGE? THAT ACTUALLY MADE BY BLOOD LEVEL RISE
Speaking of Warren Spector, he delivered a great speech at the E3 PC Gaming Show. Too bad nobody really cares about the PC event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7acH17oak0
>>345051674
He's irrelevant now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHQZNNajxOk
>>345051887
Even if he was (which he's not thanks to System Shock 3), you don't act that disrespectful to WARREN FUCKING SPECTOR.
That's like walking out on Tim Cain or Amy Hennig. Just fuck you if you do that.
>>345051029
nice try, jean jacques montreal
>>345051029
>when the original Deus Ex creators made Deus Ex 2 and completely annihilated the franchise
Forgive my ignorance, but I thought Invisible War was made by a different studio from DX1?
>>345033539
At least he's not trying to change shit through an agenda, just raise awareness.
>>345049271
Life Leech
Speed
>>345053227
It was made by the same one, but they got greedy and consolized the story making the level design suffer. And I don't think the original writer was there for the second one. I'm not to sure though.
HELLO
>>345035938
There was trauma, apparently. She fucks Ben and still stays silent.
>>345045603
There's one of her getting her ass slapped by Jensen
>>345053771
IS IT ME YOU"RE LOOKING FOR?
>>345051029
>there's a mission in the next game that destroys the cloning project that created Alex Denton, retconning the possibility of 2
>>345049271
the uninstall one
>>345054238
too op you minmaxing faggot
>>345053658
>Speed
Even with those tiny ass levels? Anyway, thanks.
>>345054231
what the fuck? this is dark souls levels of 'nuh-uh it never happened we changed our minds cos some people dont like it'.
>>345054231
>killing Bob Page results in an instant game over
>>345054231
Imagine in that fucking faggot Alex Denton never fucking existed? I'm getting excited just thinking about it.
>>345053757
I just looked it up on Wikipedia. I know it's not the most legitimate source, but this is just an impromptu check out of personal curiosity.
It doesn't list Warren Spector or Jay Lee under Invisible War, but the lead writer is the same for both games.
>>345054495
Because Deux Ex 2 is fucking garbage and even the original dev's shit on it so they should just remove it from the timeline and own up and call it non-canon, allowing us to not have fucking prequel games and establish the world of Deus Ex further.
>>345054559
>playing male Alex Denton
>>345054642
>playing alex denton
MD leak when?
>>345054534
>it doesn't result in a game over because it's a body double
>>345054642
>playing Alex Denton
>>345054839
Anon, the release is already just forty days away anyway.
>>345054850
What if Bob Page never even existed and was an AI the entire time?
I kinda want the Collector's Edition for that Jensen statue. There's no way I'm paying that much for a fucking PAK
my favorite thing about RPGs is not seeing the consequences of your actions immediately but rather later. It makes the game unpredictable and eliminates right choices and wrong choices.
>>345055168
The only collectors edition I want is pic related but Todd refuses to restock his store
>>345031494
>finished playing through Deus Ex
>playing HR immediately after
Fuck man, the original is just so much better. People call it dated but HR feels clunky as fuck.
>>345055457
I pre-ordered on Amazon the minute I could. I'm probably going to buy another one down the line to modify into an actual mask. I just want an Aaaaadaaaam for my desk. A Corvo Figma would be really cool, too.
>>345055732
A corvo mask is exactly why I want it. I planned to use it for this year's Halloween.
Wait, can you get a Corvo mask by other means?
>>345055839
its not wearable
>>345055839
It's not a mask, it's just a statue.
Should I just play HR first since it's a prequel and is more modernized?
>>345034763
>So the obvious thing to do would be to get rid of the fucking arm, get a very cheap prosthetic arm, get one like pic related, or just don't have anything, if that means you can easily become a killing machine.
It's not that simple. The mechanical augs are not the source of the problem. Darrow's signal attacked the biochip that was implated the augmented person's brain. The biochip allows the brain to interface the with mechanical augmentations. Removing the biochip would likely result in death, so once you become augmented there is no going back,
>>345056208
You should play DX first because there isn't anything that Deus Exe doesn't fix. It's not super accessible from the start but things really start rolling and become incredibly enjoyable after the first level.
>>345056062
>>345056109
Well fucknuggets, Corvo is one of the few game characters I like and somewhat resemble enough to make into a costume. Can you guys think of a cool costume for someone whose face and hair look like Corvo?
>>345056392
Wait to see how moddable the statue is. It could just be a piece of cloth and an elastic band away from being the wearable mask you want.
>>345051029
I liked HR but I don't think it's a close second. The level design alone is nothing special and I really really hate the battery-melee thing. It surpassed my expectations, but elements like that feel like they deliberately chose something worse just for modernity's sake.
>>345031494
the future is now
>Play through original Deus Ex 3-4 years ago
>Absolutely love the game
>Instabuy Invisible War
>Can't stand playing it
What happened? Also Human Revolution was a lot better than I expected it to be going in, I enjoyed playing through it too.
>>345044840
>Original DE rewarded you for accomplishing your goals/exploration
New ones
>Here, you're a special snowflake, have some XP for punching a guy, bravo, you didn't kill him, have some more xp, oh, by the way, hack that terminal, and then go through the vent on the left (highlited in your HUD) for more XP
>>345056737
You're literally complaining that the game was dumbed down by making more playstlyes more viable.
>>345056674
Honestly we are never going to get the circumstances that created the original Deus Ex. It's like that spark of inspiration that gave Carmack and Romero the ability to make DOOM, and it can never be re-created twice. So with that in mind I truly enjoyed HR even though DX obviously is a masterpiece of a game but to even compare HR in the same light as the original in my mind is something that is great thing.
>>345056216
So the augs in HR are a for life sentence? That's kinda stupid too.
>>345056726
>What happened?
Consoles
>>345056925
>It's like that spark of inspiration that gave Carmack and Romero the ability to make DOOM, and it can never be re-created twice
DOOM II was the better game though
I just recently replayed HR to get the last couple of achievements I missed and I went lethal combat route. Jensen is one of the weakest main characters I have ever seen. I had fully upgraded dermal and was playing on easy, and even then just a couple of seconds of gunfire was enough to kill him.
Add to this the fact you get more experience for going stealth and nonlethal, the game definitely was not designed with combat in mind.
>>345051029
Nah man Deus Ex AND Invisible War are going to be rectonned, they're not part of the Deus Ex Universe franchise. Bob Page primarily dies in Human Revolution 3, in the year 2034.
>>345032161
The last game that let us play a Denton wasn't so great.
>>345057058
No it wasn't, the level design was atrocious and was convoluted and missed the subtlety that DOOM 1 had. I like the game, but DOOM 1 is the more focused game with incredible level design and better designed levels and mechanics for them. DOOM 2 is like dark souls 2 compared to 1, they just throw a lot of enemies into a level because they didn't know how to innovate.
>>345056951
What's exactly dumb about it? The biochip is what permanently solidifies the technology in the populace and after the events of HR causes a massive shift in caste and augments are looked down upon.
>>345057326
Bob page dies? What are you talking about?
>>345056919
Only 1 playstyle.
Non-lethal
Game mechanics punish you for killing enemies you have no reasons not to kill.
>>345033285
He admits to playing the PS2 version. Maybe they removed the option.
>>345057442
Deus Ex has always been a stealth game, and the xp for stealth is minimal as fuck. Admittedly I always play non-lethal, but I have killed a fuck ton of shit and still ended at the same level as non-lethal.
>>345057407
>Bob page dies? What are you talking about?
I meant 'probably', not 'primarily'. Joking about them just throwing out the old canon.
>>345057682
I honestly hope the third game takes place after Deux Ex, and then we get new content and not narratives bogged down by "it's a prequel lol".
>>345049271
Machine Control
Machine ControlMachine Control
>>345057778
I doubt it, we're probably going to get an Adam Jensen prequel trilogy at least.
>>345057682
>Joking about them just throwing out the old canon.
Unlikely. The HR/MD devs love the story from DX.
>>345057671
>Deus Ex has always been a stealth game
No it wasn't you retard it was an RPG.
The first Deus Ex isn't dated too much to be unplayable. The second one is, however.
So is MGS1.
>>345058117
You really are fucking stupid aren't you? It's in the same vein as theif you fucking mongoloid, yes it's an rpg, but it was built around stealth you fucking stupid motherfucker. Why the fuck do you think that all the levels are designed in a way where there is pure stealth options and alerts you dumb piece of shit? Why does being a stealth game mean it can't be an rpg?
I'll ask you again, are you fucking retarded you fucking mong. Get a fucking brain.
>>345058238
you know exactly what you're fucking doing and i demand you cease immediately
The HR/MD devs should put some greasels in some of the vents at least. Shake things up a bit, Jensen has too easy a time with it.
>>345058317
easy bro
>>345058358
He's a fucking moron because the issue with the second one is that it's just plain bad, never mind the graphics.
It simply isn't as good as the first Deus Ex.
>>345058407
I think Ayy Lmaos are strictly "DX1 and after" territory. Some protogreasels would be cool
>>345058527
>gets btfo
>heh take it easy man
>>345058317
lol thief is not an RPG and Underrail is not a stealth game just because stealth is an option just like Deus Ex
take your meds
>>345040112
>With HR you don't have to install any mods. That's convenient.
No mod will ever be created that will make HR anything resembling good, I guess this technically makes it convenient that I can ignore it and all further sequels
>>345058912
It's a stealth game like thief that is also an rpg. How fucking stupid do you have to be that it has to be one or the other?
I'll ask you again, are you fucking retarded?
Seriously please tell me are you so fucking stupid that you actually think that an rpg is just an rpg and can't have a mix of mechanics? What the fuck does rpg even mean shitskin?
It's a stealth based rpg. You just got blown the fuck out, yet again.
>>345031494
It's like when Majora's Mask came out and everyone fucking called it "Zelda 2"
>>345058574
Honestly the lack of Ayyys was one of my biggest problems with DXHR
The game just takes itself too seriously and doesn't dabble with any of the more fun but "less serious" conspiracies.
>>345059176
>implying aliens aren't serious
>>345058574
Some MJ12 proto-stuff would be nice, if only to notify people who never played the original that the universe is a bit whackier than HR seemed to suggest.
>>345057968
>they save the third game for post original Deus EX
>>345059176
Ayyys and Area 51 were mentioned in the email in the Level 5 computer after you find Megan.
>>345059057
>spout shit like a retard
>lol btfo
Thief is not an RPG. There are no RPG elements, no optional ways to play, and it has never been marketed as an RPG. Maybe Thi4f but Thief, Thief 2, and Thief 3 are pure stealth games.
>>345059551
Get some fucking reading comprehension you incompetent shitskin, the original comparison was to illuminate that Deus Ex has similar stealth mechanics like thief but was also an RPG. Read my posts again before you embarrass yourself by being a complete mongoloid.
>>345045743
you are literally a simpleton
>>345059659
Those mechanics come from Ultima Underworld. Is that a stealth game too?
>>345059867
Nice moving of the goalposts you fucking retard. Please explain to me how Deus Ex isn't a stealth based rpg or concede the argument you innane shitskin.
>>345059491
well boy that hidden email sure sated my desire for some running around area 51 with greys flinging radioactivity like its their own faeces, sure was an exciting text file right there
>>345059821
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt, anon.
>>345033069
t. /pol/tard
>>345059969
I understand your pain anon. Out of curiousity, where and how would you have implemented ayys into HR? As a secret section in back alley Detroit or Omega Ranch?
>>345060105
t. eidos montreal shill
>>345039562
>It's less tedious to play HR than 1.
What? How? HR was a lot more tedious in my experience. Combat being a no-go and battery recharge can slow it down quite a bit.
>>345060537
Not him, but I'm guessing he means Liberty Island
>>345060627
They always mean Liberty Island, don't they? They should call it it Liberty Island Syndrome.
>>345060243
>One off room full of ayy in the back of a closet
>Jensen cant even deal with it and whines to Pritchard
That'd be great.
>>345039562
>He thinks Deus Ex needs mods
hello newfag
>>345060774
>Unparalleled strategic freedom was overwhelming. :^)
>>345060243
given how absolutely locked up they are in DX1, it really only makes sense for them to be there unless somewhere along the way you find some utterly trashed freight container with them inside - though the only place you could really put it is in missing link/panchaea.
considering they're created through genetic experimentation of bovine genes you'd have to assume they're quite modern, so it seems more likely that they may not even exist in their current form during the events of DX3.
you really don't go digging quite so deep into government conspiracies in DX3 as you do in DX1 so it's hard to find any single place that currently exists to insert them.
DX1 was more 'do your job => save paul => conspiracies => get dragged into deeper things => serious conspiracies => world-changing matters
DX3 keeps the 'save paul' going in the form of megan throughout the entire game so that you're effectively waltzing through the illuminati conspiracies not for any closure on them or their consequences, but just to keep fucking looking for megan as though rescuing your girlfriend is more important than the media control, genetic experimentation, string-pulling for augmentations, and corporate espionage turned all-out warfare.
hong kong was a huge turning point for this in DX1 when you leave paul aside to look deeper into the plague mystery, DX3 really just kept with the 'i'll never stop looking' until bob fucking page was in the spotlight. conveniently, it's also where the grayyliens first appeared -- behind at least 3 layers of corporate fronts, secret passages, coded doorways, and secret experimentation labs, right at the very bottom of it all. that's really why they couldn't have put them in, no matter how cool it would've been to have them. DX3 just doesn't care about government conspiracies.
>>345060784
>make ayys the secret cow level of HR
>you can only get it if you save Malik on hardest difficulty without killing anyone or being seen while guarding her downed flier.
>it replaces Missing Link in the Director's Cut
I don't care if it's mad, I'd do it.
>>345060784
Oh fuck now I really, REALLY want to hear what Pritchard has to say about Ayyyys
>>345040112
The whole initial sequence of installing Deus Exe and rebinding some keys probably takes less time than HR's intro.
>>345059963
Deus Ex is not a stealth game for the same reason Neverwinter Nights, Oblivion, Fallout, or UU are not stealth games. All of those games offer the option to sneak throughout the game but they're just one of multiple options. Thief is a pure stealth game where the game is completely focused on stealth. You can't just run and gun everyone and the game will outright game over in certain missions if you kill people.
You have been arguing that Deus Ex was always a stealth game when that is blatantly false. I can play the entirety of Deus Ex without sneaking once and the game will reward me for it too with combat specific augmentations and heavier firepower.
>>345031494
Tell me when they fix Deus Ex's first level and i'll give it a go.
>>345061346
The game was designed under the idea of stealth, it's why there is alert phases and in game missions where you have to use stealth. It is a stealth game with the option to go lethal. Think to yourself why they have those mechanics in it with alert and alarm systems that make a compound aware of your presence. I never said Deus Ex is EXACTLY like thief you retard, I said it had similar mechanics to it. Jesus christ.
>>345061460
Neither of those things are exclusive to stealth games and exist in the games I listed. From your definition, Oblivion and Skyrim are stealth games because they have basic stealth mechanics.
HR was the best case scenario for a modern DX game. There are so many ways they could've fucked it up, but they stayed relatively faithful in comparison to shit like Thief. Still, people go way too easy on HR when it comes time to criticize it.
>>345061409
Pro-tip: If you're really so impatient you can't get past the first level you can use the console to skip it entirely.
>>345051029
I completely agree.
>>345033069
I hope the mechanical apartheid shit is more of an excuse plot while Jensen tries to take down the Illuminati. The aug debate in HR was hamfisted and dumb though so I don't have that much hope. I'll be happy enough if they give the Illuminati's backstory serviceable exposure. Some other conspiracies might be nice too.
>>345061727
No they are not because they don't have specific mechanics in place to punish you for not playing with stealth. There are no alarm or alert mechanics that are specifically part of the game, the rpg elements are specifically catered towards the idea of stealth, the first level sets this up perfectly. It's a stealth rpg, always has been, always fucking will be.
>>345063168
I want to play as an mj 12 trooper that is well aware of what he's doing.
>>345063386
Nope. Even if they lacked those mechanics, it does not make Deus Ex any more of a stealth game than Far Cry, RtCW, or Soldier of Fortune which all "punish" you for alerting enemies.
Jensen, in his attempt to bring down the Illuminati, will most likely put M12 in power. Is there any chance of this not happening?
>>345064409
Jensen fucking up and making things worse or not making an impact at all is a foregone conclusion. Unless Eidos goes full asshole and decides to retcon the fuck out of DX, which I hope won't be the case since they seemed to have a good amount of respect towards the original from HR and their director's commentary.
>>345064409
The fact that it's set in 2029 but that doesn't happen til the mid 2030s?
>>345064153
Wolfenstein since the first one even before Dos was also a stealth game so your argument is retarded. The game is a futuristic espionage game, the game is tailored around stealth mechanics, whole levels are designed around it, you even get augs that buff your ability to sneak, it is a stealth game. It is clearly stated in the beginning of the first level where you are advised to use stealth. It is a stealth rpg. End of story.
>>345064675
The first wolfenstein is a top down game and not a shooter unlike the rest of the series. I listed a specific wolfenstein game and two other examples you ignored.
>>345064409
PUT DUDE MECHANICAL APARTHEID XD IM SO TRIGGERED AT THIS GAME DARES TO EXPLORE SOCIAL ISSUES THAT DOESN'T RESONATE WITH ME
>>345064859
Because those other two games aren't worth mentioning because those are action oriented games with options for stealth but are not entirely built around them. The comparison is fucking retarded honestly considering even in the first wolfenstein it is impossible to use stealth at all to win the game. So not only is your argument invalid, it is also asinine.
Deus ex is overrated garbage. Tried playing it for the first time a few months ago and dropped it as soon as I felt the shitty controls and combat
*reinstalls Human Revolution*
>>345064908
>dares to explore
Didn't they say at some point that they didn't want to tackle truly controversial issues? They're not daring at all really.
>>345056951
Not a life sentence. Sanders used to be aug'd. It just means that your augs are dead weight, and while it's dead weight you're practically menstruating from wherever your aug is implanted.Though it is assumed that the original plan was to turn the new biochips into life sentences
>>345064908
>shill gets mad that his agenda is exposed
>>345064968
And you're still referring to a different wolfenstein game.
>>345064626
>good respect for the original
Then why is HR so much more futuristic and crazy looking than the original? It doesn't really respect the setting, especially since HR takes place decades before the original and yet technology back then seems to have been more advanced.
>>345059380
>remember psionic agents
>Jensen might possibly go against some psychic commandos
>>345064654
pretty sure it happens early 2030s? I wouldn't want a timeskip though
>>345065546
The excuse is that the original setting is basically humanity on the brink of collapse, so everything reverted to looking more like the year 2000.
>>345065546
They justify it as that you never really saw the really fancy parts of the world in the original DX, where it was mostly slums. They talked it over with Warren Spector during the development of HR a little bit.
It's a bit weak, but the original creator didn't mind.
>all this autism
Deus Ex can be played full stealth assassin, full murderhobo, full pacifist, or a balance between the three. It wouldn't be great if you couldn't pick between all three and the devs consciously designed every mission to be played those ways. Warren Spector laid out what exactly he wanted in RPGs 2 years before Deus Ex and he accomplished exactly that.
>>345066005
Gotta find that one interview where he said they developed several ways to go through all missions, and people found several others by themselves.
The level design is just amazing, haven't found any other game that tops it. Maybe Thief.
>>345059414
>60-year-old Adam Jensen comes out of hiding
ohyes.jpeg
>>345065546
Obviously they wanted to take some creative liberties with it so they can at least try to make it look nice, helped the game too at the end. They did try to justify it by saying that the world was such a shithole by Deus Ex that tech didn't look nearly as nice.
>>345065784
>>345065923
>>345066339
What a retarded fucking excuse
>>345066196
Here's the article I was talking about.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/197021/Warren_Spector_Who_forgot_the_role_in_RolePlaying_Games.php
>>345066537
Plus the augs in HR were almost entirely mechanical, while the augs that JC and Simons had were basically super nanomachines.
>>345061862
I don't like how easy people go on HR, feels like the devs will never understand that some of their design choices outright sucked. MD doesn't look like it's being particularly ambitious at all which is a shame.
>>345065923
If the original creator didn't mind, he must be fucking senile at this point to think that shit is acceptable.
AUGMENTED FRUITFLIES
>>345066857
Warren Spector turns 61 in a few months, so he was only in his 50s when HR was being made. It's fine.
>>345066886
What's wrong with accepting that you'll die alone? Gotta face reality sometimes.
I'm 90% sure Adam is going to be used as the base for Daedalus, thus closing the loop on the story.
>>345067019
So he's a hack who somehow thinks HR is acceptable then, because no one that made DX should think that HR is good by any standard.
>>345067178
Or he's accepted the fact he no longer has control over the series. He's busy with SS3 anyways.
>>345067178
Cool it autist.
>>345067361
>i'm an autist for wanting some quality
Whatever you say, eidos shill
>>345065250
Ok so you mean RTCW, awesome, it still isn't a game designed around stealth like Deus Ex was, so again your point?
>>345067460
You're an autist for calling the creator of DX a hack because he doesn't sperg out like you over a game he didn't make. Chill out man.
>>345067975
What did you expect of some lardy alt-right cuck who doesn't have any arguments besides "shill"
>>345067178
you sound like a pretentious old man, playing at running the games industry.
but the games industry left you behind long ago.
>>345068378
>the mouth
kek
>>345066537
If HR was as ass ugly as DX it wouldn't have taken off. Piss filter aside, HR did an excellent job of creating and atmosphere, and it was one of the big reasons that people liked it. Even for 2000, DX was a pretty ugly game.
is there a fix for mouse filtering in deus ex? you can turn it off in the config but for some reason you wont be able to use mouse in menus like your inventory
>>345041516
>never played HR
>>345069516
Have you tried using kentie's deus ex launcher?
>>345033285
[Spoiler]common problem with early iterations of pirated games[/spoiler]
>pull out pistol
>can't put it away
>can't switch to a different weapon
>taking it out of the hotbar doesn't do anything
>dropping it doesn't do anything
t-thanks
>>345069516
The fuck is that thing on top of the monitor? What the hell is this whole comic trying to convey?
>>345049602
Fun fact whenever you load a new area the game actually exits and reloads the .exe file.
>>345070595
i think that is a pair of stick feet inside some slippers
this entire thing is a hieroglyph wall
New Vision isshit
>>345069460
The original had fucking amazing atmosphere as well. What I liked the most about the setting is that it's barely futuristic in many regards, which gives it a ton of believability. HR takes place 16 years after the game originally takes place, yet looks like it takes place 50 years after the original game. The first is also grungy and downtrodden, and while HR didn't really need that type of mood it should have toned down its bright, crazy future aspects by a ton.
>>345071271
Dude HR is a prequel, what are you smoking. Also HR was before the augmentation crisis and not only that DX is literally super futuristic because the augmentation is not mechanical, it has nanomachines.
I just noticed Alex Jacobson looks like a stereotypical '90s cyberpunk
>>345033710
The game is "dated" in a sense, but the fact that so many people consider this to be an issue is fucking absurd.
>>345071730
I think that was the goal. This game was developed in the 90s.
>>345070116
OH FUCK YES MOTHERFUCKER THANK YOU
>>345070595
my monitor is in front of my window and thats a curtain, a cozy neet morning
>>345071825
Are you using GMDX?
>>345071751
When I talk to people who tell me they can't play it they complain about all the different options they have to beat the game. Apparently the choice between picking a lock and shooting the door makes them think they are going to miss something, and would rather choose nothing.
>>345071646
Did you read my post? My point is that HR's aesthetic is all fucked up because it takes place 11 years from now and ~25 years before the first game. It looks too damn futuristic. The original did have some fucking crazy technology, but in general the setting's tech level was rather subtle.
>>345071646
He means that HR is absurdly futuristic for a game set 16 years from its original release.
>play GMDX because of all the recommendations
>sneaking around like a pro
>sprint to the upper part of the statue
>run out of stamina
What the fuck is this shit?
>>345072041
That's the one thing I dislike about the mod since you can't disable it. Level athletics.
>>345071882
no, should i?
>>345072129
Yes.
>>345072041
Haven't played it, but what' wrong with that? It regens, no?
>>345072220
It just limits your running, which is annoying. You also don't regen it while crouched.
>>345072129
It's good, makes the game look better and the enemies behave better as well. Objects also twirl around when thrown but then stick the landing in their normal position, which looks hilarious.
>>345071894
That seems to be the idea, that modern games shouldn't make you commit to your choices. Nobody really wants to play a second time it seems.
>>345072332
But you couldn't sprint at all in the original outside of the legs aug, right? Don't really see the problem if it's just an extra bonus on top of the vanilla system.
>>345072492
Your normal run in the game is considered a sprint by the mod.
>>345072551
Oh. Well, that's pretty lame then.
So which ending from Human Revolution is Mankind Divided stemming from?I just want to see Sarif again
>>345071952
>>345071906
Right but I am saying that HR is purposefully made that way because after HR it makes sense why they would tone down and only use augmentations for military personnel. The graphics is why HR looks more futuristic, but Deus Ex 1 is completely more technologically advanced than it.
>>345072041
Do you have to activate sprint, or does it drain your stamina by just running normally?
>>345073025
It doesn't matter. Adam sent a signal but it was essentially ignored during the chaos and under piles of disinformation.Sarif is back but with a voice change
>>345073051
I'm not just talking about augs. Look at the architecture and the general aesthetic. Look at the security bots. One other thing that bugs me is that all locks are electronic in HR, yet there are tons of physical locks in the first game. And all of the kepads and stuff in HR is crazy future holograms, yet analog keypads are the only ones seen in the original.
>>345073313
Running normally
>>345073313
You run normally.
I have the human evolution
should I play it?
>>345073387
>>345073391
That sounds a bit disappointing, unless it's not as intrusive as it sounds.
Everything else about the mod sounds pretty great, so that's a bit annoying.
>>345073515
I never notice it
>>345073515
It's the only real flaw. Especially since it's THE ONE THING THAT YOU CAN'T DISABLE.
>>345073387
Yeah definitely Deux Ex has less technology but that may be also the location of where HR is set, it may be a more economic city so it has more technology. It can probably be explained lore-wise but yeah I did notice that as well.
>>345073418
>has a game
>hasn't played it
Nah don't man, not worth, just keep buying games on sale and never playing them.
>>345073652
Look at that subterranean Chinese place in HR and then in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is the most bustling place for free trade in the original game, and yet it looks crappier than that other place.
>>345073607
>>345073642
Hm, I'll probably give it a shot anyway.
But maybe it's something to bring up to the creator of the mod?
>>345073735
Which also may have been a graphics thing because they couldn't flesh out how advanced the society they were creating graphically.
>>345073697
it was gave freely dude chill out
actually, I have no fucking idea how I got it
it's just there and I can install it whenever I want
>>345039810
>tfw can't use Deus Exe because it's incompatible with my current (pirated) OS
Just fuck my shit up.
>>345073892
Sure, but the art style itself reflects a more subdued level of tech. Even under constraints, they could have made it look more "futurey"
>>345031494
>People who like HR
>Say Deux Ex 1 has too old gfx
I fucking hate the newer generation of ppl... I fucking hate it hate it hate it so fucking much. It's like they have some kind of brain tumor or something. Even if they were to kill themselves the tumor would still be in there.
>>345074039
I mean I completely agree with you that HR looks more advanced that 1, it's just I am giving the game the benefit of the doubt because there is amazing technology in 1 that outclasses HR, like how the asian chick at the end forgot her name tries to pull a bob page and upload herself into an AI but the technology is primative compared to the first game. I just kinda suspend my disbelief and think that maybe the first game just didn't have the technology to displace this futuristic society.
>>345061107
>play liberty island
>run in and shoot some nsf
>can't aim for shit because they have no skills
>die
>"wtf dis game is dated fuck dis"
>yfw theres a Final Fantasy XXVIII poster in the game somewhere
>>345047228
'no'
>>345075909
he's right
>>345076046
But, no
>>345049271
>dat melee attack charged with an EMP pulse
bump
>>345076712
Man, fuck that brat.
>>345058882
Yeah, people quick to anger over inane bullshit are typically cool people - like you, anon
>>345031494
I haven't touched HR at all but I have to say the first game does feel pretty dated.
Half-Life for example has much smoother gameplay.
Pardon my interruption. My vision is augmented.
>>345077697
Could you be more specific
>>345051029
I haven't beaten it, but I still love IW. I want a proper remake.
>>345078265
All of the items/guns in Half-Life transition to each other very smoothly, it feels far too much like a turn based game sometimes in Deus Ex where you have just a very large amount of things to click
It's not even bad, it's just not nearly as intuitive for the type of game that it is.
>jensen wants to stop the illuminati even though they did nothing wrong
Was he really that mad about how they bantered Sarif?
>>345079027
He was mad because he wanted orange, and they gave him piss
![78f78b9926b1931b157eaa0a06443ead-650-80[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9XR1864.jpg "78f78b9926b1931b157eaa0a06443ead-650-80[1]")
HR was written by a woman who couldn't believe any conspiracies could exist because she lives in a sheltered bubble probably. Most of the game ridicules and mocks people who believe there are conspiracies.
But there is global warming for sure got to have that in the game. Fucking libtards ruining games.
>>345079656
>mocks people who believe there are conspiracies
Like you?
>doesn't anthropomorphic climate change exists
>Fucking libtards ruining games.
lmao
>>345079836
not an argument
>>345079897
Yours wasn't either, truther
>>345080038
yea it was a statement libturd
>>345079656
You do realize the whole games story is about some crazy conspiracy, and that the first hub area there's a crazy radio DJ that everyone puts off as a crazy conspiracy nut spouting off shit that's actually spoilers for the game, right?
>>345080123
yea that's what I'm talking about
Paul Denton Adventures when
>>345033539
>transhumanism
even some christians are moving towards transhumanism now
the future is going to be intense bros
>>345032702
Why would you put all your points into swimming
Take pills against my orders.
Is Jesus Christ Denton going to get a mention in Jensen Adventure 2 Battle?
After the quakes, the homeless people drifted down here. Junkies, runaways, grifters; theres a DSS file a mile long on this place. Some of them- the so-called "Mole People" have permanent living quarters in an adjacent tunnel system not on my map.
>>345032702
Deus Ex? Far more akin to ye Deuce Sexe, for ye tapestry is but a depiction of fecal loving.
One starts to read it, and a pair of olden weremen speak with regard to (fecal) matter that leaves only bore. A reference to the black death I aspied perhaps. Ye lone part of note was when yon folke spoke of ye high borne knight.
Alas my hope fell under as soon as ye tale began. With consideration that he beith a "nanoaugmentus" (what doth it mean in the Lord's grace?) ye fact that he may fall with nary but a few shots of a mundane bow is ignoble.
Longbows and melee in yon tale show inconsistence and poor crafting. Yon hero uses many loomswork to take aim of his bow and release, doing only grazes to foes.
The Lord's strength could not lift me through even the foretale. Damnation upon this accursed tapestry, and pestilence upon all /v/ for knighting this turdish tale.
DX > HR
HR did much better than I originally expected when it was announced however.
>>345036904
>Watching kremlin propaganda channel
shiggy diggy
>>345079656
>ingame conspiracy theorists get mocked
So just like real life?
Why are /pol/tards so subhuman /v/?
Can there be a Deus Ex game without reference to Denton or Jensen?
I fucking hate the ship level.
>>345037785
ISIS is a death cult. They want to cause a huge battle in a certain historical area and bring about the end of the world or something.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sKpcV27.jpg "hqdefault[1]")
![Buddy_christ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZtjxyNb.jpg "Buddy christ[1]")
