>people are already referring to human revolution as "the first one".
>more and more people saying they can't play the original because it's too "dated"
How long before this
>>344988103
As long as /v/ doesn't forget, the game will live on.
>>344989832
I've seen people on /v/ post about how it's too dated to play
I'll probably reinstall it soon to give GMDX a try.
>>344988103
do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>344988103
Seriously, do I have to put up capitol to get this game polished & re-released?
It's like Jews don't like money or something.
a reboot of 1 will be the next deus ex after mankind divided.
>>344990889
>Deus Ex reboot with takedowns, third person cover, 4 active augs, no skills, and all the other awful gameplay decisions of Eidos Montreal
Oh please no
It's referred to as "the first one" because Human Revolution was a soft reboot.
Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week.
>>344991421
I have already discuss the matter with the senator
>>344991670
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII take it he was agreeable
>>344991791
He didn't really have a choice...
>>344991935
Hey fuck you
I still remember being so disappointed with Invisible war.
Why the fuck can't I run Revision or New Vision?
It's not like I have a toaster, but I can only get between 20 - 30fps with all the settings maxed.
>>344992562
you have a toaster
>>344992408
Should i skip it after the original and play HR?
>>344992721
AMD Fx-4130
GTX 750ti
8GB
Not really. It's not great, but it should be able to run that no problem.
>>344992789
skip it, it takes place way too far into the future anyway. You can always play it after HR anyway if you want.
I must be the only person who liked IW.
not so much for the main plot, though the ending was cool, but the side stories.
Obligatory.
>>344991791
Oh yes!
>>344988103
I srsly hate to be a Deus Ex fan nowadays.
On the one hand you have kids who defend Human Revolution as a real good game and on the other side you have oldfags who are still butthurt about Invisible War and denie, that while it has it's problems, it still got some cool things going on.
>>344988103
Remake when
>>344994078
Never, it seems.
>>344990675
>polished & re-released
Why? its perfect how it is, a product of its time, a timeless game
I hope Warren Spector and Otherworld are successful with their new game, then they make System Shock 3 to be great, and perhaps they can work on a spiritual sequel to Deus Ex.
Even though I guess if they stick with the style SS2 went for, they're already kinda competing in the same genre.
>>344992789
It's really not that good. Now that I think of it, I barely remember anything about it.
>>344993694
Oldfag fan of the original Deus Ex here. The original was great. Invisible War is pretty awful. Human Rebvolution is pretty great.
I was posting about how dated it was yesterdayI really want to be able to get into it, but I just can't even through multiple attempts through the first few missions
>>344996848
What do you mean by "dated"? What's wrong with it?
>>344996848
I had a similar experience, but a different reaction. I replayed the Ellis Island level at least 200+ times due to my autism for perfection. When I discovered there was 93% more game left, I had a virtual orgasm.
>>344997053
I just can't get into the stealth mechanics, I feel like whatever I do I always fail the stealth. To an extent, I also have trouble with the aiming with the crosshairs, as in not hitting where I'm aiming at even though I am not moving.I'm just terrible at it, and I am having trouble gitting gud
>>344997430
The crosshairs are a bit of a pain if you're not on Advanced or Master. What I always do when starting up the game is knock pistols down to untrained and use the points to get computers up to master, because you'll start with Trained in pistols anyway due to a but. However, you can just get pistols up to Advanced instead of computers if you want. When you find a scope (think you can find one if you check out the sunken ship or whatever it is around Ellis Island), it'll be even easier since you can guarantee headshots if you zoom in and shoot immediately before JC's Parkinson's has the chance to kick in.
>>344997906
due to a bug*
>>344991194
third person cover is fine and is functionally the same as leaning
>>344990675
>>344990889
we don't need shitloads of reboots and remakes of old games
they are fine as is
>>344996848
If its the synth music go kill yourself.
If it's the acting doubly go kill yourself.
Gameplay is fine, and Im a goddamn Halo kiddie who played it in 2011
If the combat is a problem just carry around a gep gun with zero points in the skill. You dont need to aim with a gep gun.
Its not a pure stealth game. This isnt thief, JC Denton is a bona fide nutjob, sneaking around with a rocket launcher IS a viable stat.
Prod niggas in the back, on their spine.
Seriously, embrace the chaos, stop trying to find an optimal solution like modern linear games do, figure out how to shoot people with low level guns, and then when your jumping around with Auged out supa legs, shooting people with master level rifle skill like you're a coked out Motoko Kusanagi with freedom in your veins and courage for nerves.
Best thing is Deus Ex and Morrowind is thinking of whacky solutions to problems, and being able to actually pull them off
>>344998108
No, it isn't. Leaning means you can get caught, 3rd person you have extra awareness while still being unable to be detected. Not to mention leaning is used around corners, while 3rd person can be used while behind a chest high wall.
>literally making up things to be irrationally update about
/v/
>>344998279
I've never been spotted while leaning.
>>344990343
It's so good! Try it anon
>>344998108
>what is immersive sim
>What is looking glass heritage
1st person, locked nigga.
Only problem with deus ex is that it doesnt let you lean FORWARD over railings like Thief and SS2 do.
Dishonored's takedown/choke is infinitely superior to HR's cut to black, play unimmersive animation bullshit
>>344995491
>a product of its time
>a timeless game
Those are contradictory statements.
I like the dated aesthetic. If they could make an HD version of the game using the newer mechanics and leveling system but keep the old graphics that would be great. I don't know why indie devs waste time on pixelshit when they could do millennium era 3d graphics. With lighting and shaders as good as we have now you could really do some neat stuff with it.
>>344998325
Even if what you said was true, doesn't mean they have to make you unable to detect via leaning in a future game.
If you think leaning = 3rd person camera on demand, you're fucking retarded.
>>344998468
I remember someone saying how Dishonored combined killing animations with player control, in shit like air assassinations and whatnot while Human Revolution took control away of the player via takedowns instead of melee, and I'm in total agreement.
Also I don't think it is only immersion for 1st person only. Being able to tell where everyone else is while still being detectable makes stealth too easy. The key is balancing leaning with enemy awareness.
>>344998325
I have, you can stick your head out for too long.
>>344997906
I usually put my exp into pistol once and then either computer or lockpicking once, but I'll try that out.
That boat is near the hobo you can chat with, right?
>>344998248
The music is great.
The voice acting is great.
I might have to give not trying to play too seriously a go.I want to get into using the augs, but I don't know where to set them on my keyboard because I'm on a shitty laptop that makes me I've got Morrowind too, but I haven't touched it yet, I'll keep your advice for that too.
Thanks anons, I'm going to give it another go now.
>>344996565
I think this is what the silent majority thinks.
Honestly just let the original be what it is and let Human Revolution get its sequel
>But the fan base
Who gives a shit? It's not like Fallout 2 doesn't exist just because everyone started Fallout with 3
>>344992949
The game runs off integrated grafix sometimes, try the nvidia control panel and see if it's being used
>>344998759
>That boat is near the hobo you can chat with, right?
I think that's it. Been awhile since I played it. It's either there or the docks where you start, but I think you're right.
You know, everyone always says prod with the prod, but I never use it. I just use the blackjack. Just hit enemies in the small of the back. I like it because it doesn't use batteries.
Don't take the combat strength aug, it's useless. Take the one that lets you move around crates.
>>344990675
>>344990889
>>344998218
They should just do a nanoaug era game already, the more they spend on the mech era they just make mech augs look 100 times better than they were intended to be in the original, make a side story in places that Deus Ex didn't explore and bang, you don't need to keep tip toeing around the original's story while allowing devs enough freedom to expand the universe.
The thing is, if they can't improve their modern Deus Ex games to at least match the original, I'm pretty sure that's a sign they would modernized a Deus Ex remake. I would rather let it be unmolested.
>>344998759
Seriously dog. Embrace the camp.
Listen to JC! He incredulous as fuck about the reality he exists in as you are hald the time.
Make sure you get Kentie's launcher since it has raw input now.
Also find F12 to F if you want a flashlight key.
>>344998838
I liked HR but it wasn't endearing like OGDX was.
If I want grim cyberpunk ill rewatch some Mamoru Oshii Ghost in the Shell.
DX is practically satire at times
Hey guys, I want to ask for a good mod for DE, I just want better textures. But if there's some shit like restored content I would love to know about those as well
>>344999529
If you ONLY want better graphics play Revision, it also expands some very bland parts of levels. If you want a general improvement on both gameplay and textures use GMDX, no overhauls or changes to core mechanics, just bugfixs, AI rework (much needed) and an included HD texture pack.
>>344999893
I will try GMDX thank you very much kind anon
>>344999893
Revision sucks
>>344999529
If you want only new textures, everything else vanilla get New Vision.
GMDX does fix some things like the AI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHPtfammNY
>>344998248
Good post.
>>344988103
>can't play the original because it's too "dated"
I don't get this. I played it in 2012 the first time and I thought it was still fresh, even better than human revolution which I played before.
It's my favorite game now and I played it multiple times.
>>344999163
To be fair, Jensen can't run as fast or jump as high as JC, also mech aug users have a reliance drugs to make their Augs work, and Jensen is unique in the fact that he can't "overdose" on augmentations. Mech augs might be more powerful is some cases, but they also have a lot of drawbacks.
>>345000757
It's just graphicsfags.
>>345000910
DX1 has pretty great aesthetics though
>>345000998
You're not a graphicsfag if you think that. All they care about are pretty graphics, not aesthetics.
>>344988103
there will be a remake funded by cucks in less than a year
>>345000998
Is there a single daytime mission in DX?
>>345000910
My problem with a ton of graphics fags is that half the time they cant even articulate what they want.
Seriously, ask them what SSS is, what ao, anisotropic filtering is.
Whats the difference between MSAA and others?
How do normal maps work? What is a texel?
The more i learn about tech the less I care about how old games look. Best kind of graphics mods are ones that fix shit like integer framebuffers, banding on textures, framerate hacks, injection of AA and anisotropic filtering.
Quake 1 legitimately looks fantastic when you get linear filtering with mip mapping going.
>>345001308
this is the closest you get to seeing sunlight
>>344990675
/pol/ pls
>>344988103
I don't mind this as much as people on /v/ suddenly saying HR was always a bad game and that IW was actually acceptable.
>>345002008
They're both bad.
>>344998468
>>344998689
Imagine how great Human Revolution and Mankind Divided would be if it handled Adam's blades like Dishonored's sword combat. Also takedowns and body carrying.
I don't like it very much, yes, but it doesn't bother me that much either.
>>345001670
>>345001308
What was the reason for this?
Purely for atmosphere or technological issues back in the day?
>>344998468
I was quite disappointed when I saw mankind divided had the same takedown mechanics, I thought that was one of the main flaws eidos saw in human revolution
>>345002568
it complements the cyberpunk story, like in blade runner
>>345002451
I never had a huge gripe with the takedowns, although I do love me some dishonored. I doubt they'll let go of the flashy killmoves in MD, normies will complain
>>345002568
>>345002675
also Deus Ex is all about infiltration missions, which make more sense to happen in the night time
>>345002451
Takedowns bother me for two reasons. First because how it simplifies what could have been proper melee combat and second because of how astronomically overpowered it was. You're 2m away from an enemy at any angle? he's dead, instantly, without a chance to defend.
Also, was body moving really a thing in HR? I vaguely remember a tutorial telling me about it, but I'm pretty sure I never actually moved any bodies and nothing happened.
>>345002568
I like to think it's to compliment the fact that someone gives JC shit for wearing sunglasses on a night mission, so to spite them he wears them on every mission every night.
>>345002842
Yeah you dragged them around by holding a limb and then scooting them around, it was slow as fuck and almost impossible to get them up stairs or behind cover
>>344988103
>play HR when it released
>got bored after several hours
>play doosex for the first time a couple of years ago
>one of my favorite games ever
Has no one else had this experience? I just feel like people have broken brains when they tell me it's super dated and unplayable.
>>345002451
They replaced flygirl with hoverguy?
What the actual fuck?
>>345003084
Black sidekick, he's going to be a bro
And he's definitely going to die
>play deus ex and thief
>"wow why aren't there more of these games around? these are great!"
>years later
>thi4f, human revolution, dishonored
>all of them for consoles, none of them as good as those they drew inspiration from
>have tons of these asynchronous first person stealth em ups but none of them are as good as deus ex
same with gothic as well. gothic 1 and 2 come out, "holy shit we should have more ARPGs", years later ARPGs flood the market but almost all of them are shit and nowhere near as good as gothic.
>>345002451
>182 pounds
With that robo-body of his, and all that internal equipment? Bullshit.
>>345003215
Malik was my bro;_;
>>345003273
Dishonored is really good anon, Thi4f can fuck off, but Dishonored really did nothing wrong in my opinion, it's kinda easy but at least the combat is fun.
>>345003273
You sound like someone who needs to play The Dark Mod for your Thief needs and Risen for the Gothic ones.
>>344998673
>I don't know why indie devs waste time on pixelshit when they could do millennium era 3d graphics.
Bad pixel art is bad. Bad 3D graphics are ATROCIOUS
Last thing I want is a new generation of indie games that all immitate the PS1-era graphics. Same as how current indie devs missed the Pixel timeline by about half a decade or so and went for 8-bite rather than 16-bit style of pixel art
>>345003280
It's all ultra resistant ultra light material, anon :^)
>>345003365
I wouldn't be surprised if they made her canonically dead, since I'm pretty sure they're basing this story off of one of HR's potential endings as well
>>345003490
not that anon, but I wouldn't mind low poly high res texture graphics for indie games, that wouldn't be PS1 era 3D but still feasible to indies, I suppose
there is literally nothing wrong with low poly models if the resolution and aliasing are high
>>345003490
I think we'll see that pretty soon. Have you seen Devil Daggers? It's actually a good art style but could inspire be the beginning of poorly antialiased ps1 graphics
>>345003731
meant anti-aliasing
>>345003649
Like FF7, those low poly models could be cool with nice textures
I love the look, story, and gameplay of the original, but going back the controls are just massive ass, are there any mods that improve the controls of the game, or recommendations for settings?
>>345003924
R E B I N D
>>345003451
Not him, i need a thief sound effects mod For TDM.
Also Dark Engine movement is so weighty its like playing Chaos Theory on a thumbstick.
There a recommended mission pack?
Human Revolution is literally normie trash. Anyone that likes it never played the original.
>>345003924
rebind them to whatever you fucking like you lazy ass
>>345003924
Just rebind your fucking keys.
>>345003924
Just rebind them to your needs, I set scope to middle mouse and laser pointer to x, flashlight aug to f ,and speed aug to shift
>>345003970
it's not just this, does the game have some kind of weird mouse reading going on? that's where I have most of my problems
>>344998248
>360 quickscoping people while flying through the air on super legs
This is seriously more fun than anything in HR besides maybe the dialogue bosses.
I honestly can't understand it when people say the combat is dated. Have they just never played an RPG before?
>>345004045
I like it and I have played the original. I like the original more regardless, but HR is pretty good
I played HR first but prefer the original.
>>345004197
>LategameDudeSex.webm
>>345004307
Fuck off HRdrone
>>345004197
>using super strength to literally disintegrate facists with a trashcan from 50 years
>>345004197
Casuals can't handle the fact they have to specialize in Deus Ex and won't be 300% accurate while sprinting like Human Revolution is.
The animations, or horrendous lack thereof, is the biggest weakness in DX1's visual presentation.
>>345004045
HR is an okay game, but it gets way too much credit.
Far too often the story falls back on 'well you have no fucking reason to do anything I say, but maybe if you do it anyway everything will turn out ok?', and the gameplay basically boils down to making sure you don't run out of candy bars, but I'd rather play it than most other modern """"""""""stealth""""""""" games
>>345004691
well they didnt really have many vertexes to bend
just look at the other guy's shoulders
How's the PS3 version of Human Revolution, lads?
>>345004197
>PlayingSS2
>Use speed implant and speed hypo
>Run so fast that i hurt myself slamming into walls
>Every movement has inertia
RIP LOOKING GLASS
IMMERSIVE SIMS ARE BEST
Seriously, any game that gives you enough control to let you use your own ingenuity and brain proceses is great
>>345002451
>>345004691
Its OG Unreal. Animation system was made to run much faster.
Thief 2 > Deus Ex > Thief Gold > System Shock 2 > Arx Fatalis > System Shock 1
The holy pentagon.
>>345004903
That's a huge fucking head
>>345004903
>>345004883
being able to go super fast in ss2 and take shortcuts in the level will always be the most satisfying feeling
HR is before DeusEx in the timeline, but anyone who legit thinks its the first game in the series should probably be shot.
>>345004879
>even thinking about playing a fps on console in the first place
>>345004691
I would kill another human being if it meant DE got remade in the original FEAR engine.
>>345004903
>na'vi
>>345005073
>prince
>>345005073
If you can't play games because they're too "dated" then you're part of the problem.
>>345005070
Only manlets have such large heads, must be based upon one.
>>345004702
There were some neat things, like the optional software update that actually fucks up your augs
>>344995491
it looks like shit and played pretty poorly t: tested it first time few years ago
>>345003273
Thi4f was fucking horrible.
DOLA EX IS A DOCUMENTARY
>>345005284
last one
A nice little touch in HR is even though Jensen seems all high tech and rule of cool, they still made his paper spec much weaker than Denton's.
EVERY GAME AFTER THE FIRST DEUS EX IS 1000% IRRELEVANT HIGH-FANTASY MASTURBATION NON-SENSE
THE FIRST DEUS EX IS A DOCUMENTARY
I just made it ti Hong Kong
How many more hours do I have left before it's all over
So have we figured out what ending was cannon? or is it like IW were all the endings are cannon?
>>345004883
Makes me want to actually play the game but fuck the endlessly respawning enemies
>>345005595
You're about halfway through.
>>344998248
What game is this, sempai?
>>345004879
it's not that bad but, THE POWER OF THE CELL shits the bed from time to time
>invisible War is chronologically the last Deus Ex ever
>>345005613
Well, the premise for the next game suggests Darrow, though Taggart could also be possible. Other two are not likely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1oxIrAX39M
Man I love the main theme
>>345005746
Morrowind.
>People say morrowind doesnt have good combat
>>345005642
Kill them faster, set up OpenAL AND openal soft hrtf so you can hear them coming.
>>345005489
I wonder if a single punch to the armoured fucking face will take them out like in HR
>>345005790
That's ok, IW was full of gay star wars tech and honestly nobody wanted that
>>345005595
It all goes downhill after HK
enjoy it while it lasts
>>344998248
The music is awful. Synth techno shit has no place in videogames, same goes for System Trash 2
>>345005902
I like the intro music a bit more
>>345006195
I hope you don't mean the quality of the game, I really like the post HK sequences
Unatco?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBPK_oXeJgA
>>345006341
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wny4UptyceU
Whar about that new revision graphics mod? Is it worth the time?
>>345006398
the ship and the catacombs are kinda shit
>>345006259
heres your (you), you fucking yank
>>345006259
>no futuristic music in a game about the future
What heck anon
>>345005239
>No game that combines the gameplay and writing of DE, the dialogue and aesthetic of HR, Dystopia's hacking, and FEAR's TECHNOLOGY
I'd be perfect.
>>344988103
Chronologically, HR *IS* the first one
>>345006475
I prefer the new vision mod, I feel like revision dangerously straddles the line between remastered graphics and hl2 cinematic mod territory
>>345006259
>Hating knockoff DJ Shadow
Shit, the main theme in Thief 1 is literally The Numbers song
>>345006259I honestly think that most of the soundtracks in Deus Ex were very unfitting to the game's tone.
Also, on an unrelated note, why was Jaime such a manlet?
>>345006496
Ah you're right, the catacombs suck but I didn't mind the boat. My favorite levels are the top secret facilities you explore at the end. Also Everett's mansion and the France hub
>>345006448
No, Savage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flPbIxVDXd8
>>345006765
Paris has the best music.
You cant argue against this.
>>345006475
Revision gets pretty close to sacrificing the original art style, but it really is a huge overhaul to the graphics. I played revision but still prefer GMDX with the included hdtp
>tfw only deus ex game i played is HR
i probably should play the old ones, but they feel so dated. Make me a casual if you will. The new Deus Ex seems pretty good. I wonder if the new series is a reboot?
>>344988103
>the first one"
chronologically it takes place first. Much like how Star wars released episode IV first but chronologically episode I still takes place first. ITts really not hard to understand.
>>more and more people saying they can't play the original because it's too "dated"
>How long before this
Im going to go out on a limb and predict that Mankind Divided will sell extremely well and they will remake the original as well as invisible war.
>>345005489
MacReady is voiced by Peter Serafinowicz apparently.
>>345007020
>I wonder if the new series is a reboot?
Its not, its a continuation of Human Revolution
>>345007170
i meant if the two new games is a reboot of the universe
>>345007020
Yeah it's a reboot, the original really isn't hard to get into with some Mods, but if you're playing DXHR for the cover based shooter aspects you probably won't like DX1 much
>>345006938
New Vision
HDTP
Shifter(ehh the game js more fun when you're OP)
Always been the go to enhancements.
>>345007034
The only /v/core game ive ever had problems playing is gothic, and that control scheme is completely different to anything else and belongs on a PS1 pad.
DX and SS2 play just fine, people just have ZERO creativity in getting around challenges old school RPGs put in front of them
>>345007292
Well not a reboot on the universe, it's a prequel so they have total freedom until nanoaugs come into play 50+ years later
>>345007354
>Yeah it's a reboot
>>345007292
We'll see
>>344998325
You can be spotted while leaning. Same with SS2.
>>345007034
I like HR but they should not touch the original at all. At most, rerelease it so everyone's aware of its existence.
>>345007410
>DX and SS2
>RPGs
>problems playing gothic
>tfw play the first deus ex without ANY mods
>it's the best game i've played in 10 years
>>345007354
>with some mods
If it was really a good game it wouldn't need mods to be playable.
>>345008178
Mods barely change anything, Vanilla DX is timeless
It's another one of those outdated games for a generation that thought thac0 was a good idea.
>>345007896
ok instead of a reboot how about the same game with 2016 graphics? HD remake
>>345007991
For the retards on this board they might as well be flight sims.
Gothic 1 was fucking just fine when I mapped the controlls to a dual shock 3.
>>345008178
Should at least get Kentie's launcher for raw mouse input and fov. Maybe the dx 10 renderer, you can turn off the special effects so its just more compatible with modern windows.
If bring in the in game chat and type preferences , you can change alot if shit, add anisotropic filtering, aa. Nice vanilla shit.
>>345008232
It doesn't, it's just that kids are addicted to mods.
>>344990208
>2000
>Too dated to play
Please kill me now
>>345008385
Do whatever those guys did for that Halo 1 remake where you can switch the graphics between original and remastered and that would be perfect in my books.
How long till we get a remake like system shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFe8hRy42o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>this fucking mod
>Deus Ex is 16 years old
>people just now trying to play it
>complaining about the game being "dated"
Honestly I love this meme, honestly.
>>345008621
>2000
> 16 years ago
> people still playing on crts
niggas need to nut up and just play it. it's so good
>>345008670
have you been living under a rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRSpyNK7JL0
Never could get into Deus Ex despite everyone constantly praising it. I played up to the mission where you have to plant explosives on some ship and it just never clicked with me the way some other games do. Graphics aren't the issue as I love Thief and other games around the same time or older.
>>345008679
>I just learned that you need the Augmented Edition DLC (tm) for my rescue mission.
>mfw this is an actual thing in HR.
>>345008856
Try reading his post again.
>>345007034
>as well as invisible war
Lmao, literally no one cares enough about IW for it to ever be remade. It think a Deus Ex remake in the MD engine could work though.
>>345008856
No dude he meant a remake of DX, like how SS is getting a remake
At least I hope that's what he meant
>>345008490
some pc users just get triggered when a game doesn't use mouse and keyboard
The original has really shit controls though, why would anyone put themselves through the hell of playing them.
>>344988103
What went so wrong with the water in this game? The game runs mostly fine on modern hardware but the game instantly tanks to almost 15FPS any time water shows up, even in the tutorial.
>>345008679
I forgot about this.
>>345008913
Maybe you aren't exploring enough, the best part of DX is accidentally discoving secrets and learning about the conspiracy for yourself
>>345007292
Bob Page makes a cameo at the end of HR, so MD will probably bridge the gap. That's just my prediction.
>>345008679
>Daily reminder the gep gun was actually pre order dlc
>>345009103
Im fine with pure digital button controls, but i aint leaning over my keyboard for that.
>>345009456
thats why they invented controllers asshat
>>345009103
What are you talking about? The new games support keyboard and mouse controls perfectly.
>>345008679
>>345009231
Shit, has it been that long since this and human revolution? I'm starting to miss those days.
>>345009741
HR is 5 years old.
>>345009861
>2011 was 10 years ago
Feeling old yet?
Mankind divided is going to be shit. You know why? Because they're going to stray even further away from the original. The only reason HR was acceptable was because they knew they had to appeal to the fans.
Now since they got something going with HR they're going to stop tip toeing around Deus Ex 1 and go full blown casual.
I suspect even HR fanboys will be upset with some changes.
>>344988103
>How long before this
It's already happening. Lurk dude sex threads and you'll eventually see one pop up.
>>345010040
Idk, just looks like more HR with slightly better graphics to me.
>>345010040
what made Deus Ex 1 great is that is was 100% true. if you run around like a terrorist you get 1 shot by police like a terrorist. All forms of gameplay maneuvers were rewarded equally, however. As long as your game style isn't speed running, you get enough skill points by having fun and getting into the world of conspiracy.
>>345008679
>I'll take the wristblades. I like to make a cinematic takedown.
>>345008292
GMDX changes a fuckload of things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P6mHqX1fYU
not all of them are good, such as mantling, but turning it off is alright
>>345009947
>1990 was 56 years ago
Never played the first game, tried it when I was a kid but I only had english version and didn't know english at the time. What's the best way to get started in terms of gameplay, what stats should I choose first?
>>345010527
GMDX changes are good though, Mantling is broken but I still like it. The AI rework is really nice
>>345010710
all in swimming
>>345010710
Kentie's launcher, DX10 renderer, GOG version
Dont uograde swimming, be creative and explore.
Thats all you need for vanilla.
I'm doing a non lethal and stealth run on GMDX. I'm guessing I should get combat strength over microfibral muscles to knock out everything, right?
>>345010710
>What's the best way to get started in terms of gameplay
Play vanilla GOTY , no mods whatsoever.
>what stats should I choose first?
Dump all points into swimming. Everything else you can get pretty easily.
>>345010710
Your pistol skill starts as trained, I like to put some points into hacking and lockpicking to not miss any goodies, rest is up to you.
>inb4 max out swimming
>>344988103
Welcome to the club take your seat right next to Red Dead.
>>345010950
Is swimming a meme?
>>345011238
Yes.
>>345011032
Dont tell him no mods, newfags dont know the difference between mods and renderers /bug fixes
newfag,
>>345010710
Use
>>345011003
They are just bugfixes
If dx10 renderer gives you problems download the the latest opengl one
>>345011238
No, saying NOT to dump skills into swimming is a meme. The ones that are saying not to are lying.
You get points like candy in this game with the exception of swimming which you really need to achieve a decent stealth playthrough.
>>345011314
Good thing I never learned how to swim then.
>>345002568
He's a vampire.
>>344988103
Overrated as fuck game with terrible gameplay. Stop forcing this shit.
>>345011238
Swimming is a huge meme, there's 1 or 2 sections of the game where swimming is a remotely useful skill. Originally DX was going to feature some sort of flooded city but that was cut, and the skill remained.
>>345011375
what's the difference between gog goty edition and steam goty edition?
>>345011471
It is pretty nice at advanced though. I put points into it near the end of the game when playing with Shifter once because I had nothing else to spend points on. Still wouldn't put points into it unless I had spare points though.
>>345011757
Doesn't shifter turn it into the athletics skill instead? Or is that biomod
>>345011625
GoG usually has better mod compatibility. Steam will usually have drm that can fuck with things for no reason.
Its not a hassle really, mine works fine, but Gog is better for older games
Omar ending best ending. Game was okay at first and then got progressively worse.
I wonder if the embed spoiler works.
>>345011454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJUsOP0T1o
>>345011956
Must be biomod.
>>345011956
GMDX turned swimming into athletics, complementing the stamina system they implemented.
>>345008621
gothic came out in 2001 and is the most outdated shit ive ever played
>>345008621
>try to convince people to play pic related
>wah it's old and ugly
2001.
>>345012153
Does it increase movement speed or just increase stamina?
>>345011238
It's worth to put 600 points for trained, aqualung is not enough.
>>345012186
Im the one who was originally bitching about gothic.
Play with a dualshock retard, it was originally going to be a ps1 game
>>345012325
genericname112 wix com/gmdx?_escaped_fragment_=skills/cp0h#!skills/cp0h
>Swimming:
>-Now named "Athletics". Not only does it increase lung capacity and swim speed, but also stamina capacity.
>-The Swimming skill is of greater importance with respect to swimming. Too much to list
I suppose the latter
>>345012284
>Arcanum
What's it like, anon? I just looked it up and it looksfun.
>>345012087
I love Hell's Kitchen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-9824q2K8E
>Install GMDX
>Cough
>Some guard from the other side of the map comes running after me
I know, I know it's supposed to be realistic and all but jesus christ stealth is almost forced.
My gripe with this game in particular is the darkness of the only plugin that works for me which is the DX10 renderer. Well, and the controls by default.
>>345012602
Combat is kind of bad, cheese it with magic or summons/followers.
Everything else is god tier. It used to be flawed but unofficial patch makes it an absolute classic. You're given cool tools to solve situations since most spells have an out-of-combat use (like summoning the ghost of a recently deceased npc to chat with it, or reading people's alignment to help you make the right decisions) you can get real creative and it truly feels like playing an RPG as in you play as your character and reason like he would.
I'd advise reading the manual, awesome bits of fluff in there and playing as a mage for a first time. The music really grew on me.
>>345012602
Isometric RPG just like Fallout 1 & 2, except set in a neat fantasy universe that has an equal mixture of industrial tech and magic. You can play as a gun toting dwarf or a wizard elf, or both at the same time
>>345012602
Turn based bullshit combat
It is one of those games with super shit tier combat but the ancient neckbeard faggots try to rationalize how it is a good game because combat isn't important even though you will be doing a lot of it
>>345012850
There is nothing god tier in this game dude. Poor man Baldur's Gate.
>>345012850
>play a mage
>find mountains of schematics and materials constantly reminding me what I'm missing out on
>start another save as a tech guy
>oh wait, I can't teleport or disintegrate anymore
>>345012850
>>345012949
Woah shit, sounds pretty fucking neat. I'll be sure to check it out after I finish my first Deus Ex playthrough.
Any other mods or something besides the unofficial patch that I need?
>>345013103
I can't do without teleportation or harm. Tech guy can take the train on the other hand.
>>345005073
> Kids are cruel, Adam. And I'm very in touch with my inner child!
>>345012153
>the stamina system they implemented
Oh right, that was why I dropped GMDX.
>>345013241
High res patch + unofficial is all you need IMO. Be wary the game looks kinda bad at first, cities look gorgeous though like in >>345013250's screenshot, you'll need harm (lvl 1 black necro spell) to cheese early combat. Stick with it, the game becomes great at Tarant.
>>345012842
Turn of dx10's hdr.
Type preferences and fuck with the settings
>>345013093
>>345013058
Swine.
>>345013241
The GOG edition comes with the manual as a pdf, check it out.
>>345004656
Have you even played DX? You can make just about any gun perfectly accurate within three minutes of starting the game. You don't even need to spend skill points to do this.
>>345002451
Look at the SIZE OF HIS LIPS.
Holy shit.
>>345013103
>When you find that cave you can only enter as a gnome/dwarf
>turns out there's a shrink spell you can cast on yourself to enter it
reee
>>344988103
>people are already referring to human revolution as "the first one"
Of course they are, since MD is a direct sequel. Blame Eidos.
>>345013334
Honestly I didn't like it either but it's barely affected my current playthrough, plus a couple tiers of athletics and it's unnoticeable
>>345008670
System Shock was a dead licence.
Square Enix owns Deus Ex rights so unless they decide to make themselves an official remake, the chance seems to be 0
>>345006760
He's a fucking dominican tomato picker.
>>345013542
It still won't be accurate while moving, there's an aug in HR that makes your gun into a laser regardless of your movement
>>345011471
>1 or 2 sections
>the sunken ship on Liberty Island
>two large swimming tunnels under the airfield
>the canal
>the tunnel in the kitchen in the canal
>the conclusion to the MJ12 laboratory
>the cathedral
>ocean base, both parts 1 and 2
One point in swimming makes you move more than 2.5x faster in water and every other skill is virtually useless. Not upgrading swimming at least once is just dumb.
anyone else go full lethal to protect Paul?
>>345014425
Yeah, I went full lethal casually climbing out the window.
>>345014396
I didn't say you should ignore it, it's just highly situational and the waterbsse is the only time when it's not just used for finding some secrets
Anyone who uses the term dated and has problem any old game is a millennial faggot
>>345014480
He dies even if you save him and then climb out the window, sum bullshit
>>345014425
>not killing himself so Paul would survive
anyone else regret the fact they went full lethal at the game's end to the point where you stop playing and decided that you have to go full non-lethal
JCD, password bionicman
>>345013514
>The GOG edition comes with the manual as a pdf, check it out.
Oh shit, that's nice to hear. I'll check out Arcanum soon, anon. Thanks for the recommendation.
>>345014702
He lives even if he dies and you walk out the front door too
>Jesus Christ, Denton
>>345014834
ajensen
mandrake
>>345014720
Not really, the game doesn't track your conduct so I never choose to either kill everyone or noone, I just decide wether to play lethal or nonleathal depending on the context of the mission and if it'll have an effect on the story.
>>345014834
Jmanderley
Knight_Killer
>>345014834
0451
>>344988103
It is too dated. You can get stuck in fucking tutorial because the font is fucked up by resolution and you can't read passcode for the doors.
>>345015169
How retarded are you?
>>345012446
>it was originally going to be a ps1 game
sauce?
I think everyone here is very rude.
>>345015162
I can't believe I actually remember what door this code is for
>>345014834
Ghermann
Zeitgeist, next week i guess it will be schadenfreude
is it possible to finish the game entirely by being an asshole and mass murderer? from what I remember, some important characters were invincible, and the game forces you to follow the story without having any choices
>>345015169
You need better eyesight or you need to patch your game
>>345015218
I shit you not, i had to google the passcode because it was unreadable in-game.
What's with that creepy mumble sound near some of the computers?
I never understood that.
>>345014967If you end the game as HELIOS and have killed a single person you have chosen the worst possible outcome. This is the implication of the created GOD who rules over the world choosing who lives and who dies rather than becoming the voice of reason to counter all acts of treason done upon God and his lands which all being, digital and flesh reside. If you killed a single person you are better off letting the Chinese win and allow localization of all technology and law.
>>345015169
you know what i'm going to say to this, right? it starts with >
>>345015485
ahhahhhehhhoohhhoohhhohhhahh
>>345015329
Yeah early in the game your boss and your brother are invincible, and one of the major plot points is completely forced on you (although it was originally planned that you could have avoided it and had a different story). You gotta realize that while this is an RPG, you still play an established character who has no reason to kill his brother or his employer
>>345015485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU9X3tvTmIQ
>>345014834
I played the entire game with an open notebook and a pencil in front of me to write down passwords and codes and titled them per map.
I honestly can't decide whether it was nice or frustrating.
What sucked was how you had to login everytime when you wanted to use a keypad or computer or something. I unlocked it once, don't do this to me pls.
>>345015757
or you could just use the hacking skill and hack everything without entering any codes
it was frustrating if you wanted to read mails though
>>345015757
I would just repeat them in my head over and over again until I got to the terminal
>>345015260
faq
>>345015757
You can add your own notes in goals screen.
>>345015903
>>it was frustrating if you wanted to read mails though
>hack computer
>screenshot all the emails in 3 seconds
>quit the game (because alt+tab breaks the game)
>read the emails through the screenshots
>launch the game again
This is how I handled it.
>>345016146
Can't open them while on the terminal though
>>345016146
yeah but that's gay
pen and paper is the OG real gangsta shit
>>345016173
JC should have had basic aug for making photographs.
>>345015525
>tfw i'm on my first playthrough right now and I just started
>tfw I almost started to read your post without realizing it.
Th-thanks for spoilering that and everything anon, I almost spoiled myself.
>>345015757
Are you stupid?
Deus Ex recorded every shit you read in the logs, on top of allowing you to write your own notes ingame.
>reinstalled
>everything is so fucking dark in liberty park
>remember that I maxed brightness so I could see better
>>345016430
your welcome.
the spoiler, the real secret is that Deus Ex is a documentary and everything in that game has actually happened. It's a history lesson not hidden behind tests and homework but gameplay alone.
>>345016547
You can't open the notes while on the terminal login screen sillypants
>>344988103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heR-eau4LY
We're all good cops, now.
>>345016631
Yeah I remember when a plauge wiped out most of the US and California sank into the ocean
I finished Invisible War last night. After a few failed attempts at starting it, I buckled down and forced myself to play through the first few hub worlds. By the time I got to Egypt, I was actually enjoying myself and pretty engrossed in the story.
Almost every problem with the game can be blamed on it being developed for a console rather than PC. This leads to the unfriendly HUD, the focus on combat/universal ammo, and the GODAWFUL load times. But in every other regard - worldbuilding, characters, plot, writing - it's pretty goddamn solid.
Really I was most fascinated by the things they introduced - the Omar and JC-Helios becoming a cybergod and creating a fortress in Antarctica especially - moreso than the reappearance of popular characters from the first game. I mean it was nice to see Tong and Beth Duclare again, but their screen time like the game itself is far too short.
I did enjoy it overall and even think it's a better successor than Human Revolution. I'm also excited to play it again, take a "kill everyone" route.
>>345016402
>2052 nanocyborg
>pen and paper
Do you even roleplay?
>>345014834
nsf_001
smashthestate
>>345016676
>being unable to memorize 2 words for mere seconds
you have problems
>>345016780
Deny it all you want. There is history yet to have unfolded that was well written long ago.
There are aspects in this game which have been stopped and outcomes prevented.
>>345016849
>nsf_001
>_
>>345016871
I'm not even the guy who made the paper post, I know the login to some terminals off the top of my head
>>345008621
This is what happens when you're /b/ 2.0
>>345016780
California sinking into the ocean would be pretty awesome though.
It's gonna be a good summer if a Deus Ex thread gets over 300 replies
thanks, /v/.
>>345016813
I also finished the Deus Ex a couple days ago and I'm about to start the Invisible War, I looked up the HUD and saw this.
This is really goddamn ugly. It's not only ugly, but it fucks up your vision.
Are there any mods to fix this or should I start vanilla?
>>345016173
Are you me?
>>345014834
230023
4558
>>344988103
The game looked shit, even for its time. Apart from that it's fine. Deserves a faithful remake, though.
>>345017084
>California sinking into the ocean would be pretty awesome though
It would fix most of the US's problems honestly
>>345014834
Some old passwords don't work after few missions for some reason, like anavarre scryspc and jreed redshoes.
>>345017135
here's your reply.
>>345017143
Why are your emails purple?
>>345017197
What do you have against california? Is it because we're a bit more progressive than the rest?
>>345017161
>faithful remake
>faithful
you fucking know that's not gonna happen
>>345017285
Customized UI.
It's in the options.
>>344992562
VRAM issues most likely. Install some tools like Afterburner to monitor your ingame VRAM usage, I guarantee you you're hitting either the memory cap or memory bandwidth cap. Lower MSAA to like 2x and don't oversample. Seriously fuck Nvidia for ruining perfectly good cards with 128bit buses.
>>344998852
Bulldozers don't have APUs.
>>345017298
Stop bitching about your water problems all the time.
t. Oklahoma
I've heard you can find Gunther's email about killing you, where is it?
>>345017161
>remake
>faithful
hah
is shifter mod worth playing on a third playthrough, im getting an itch to play this again
Post favorite tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX0hU7jQ5O4
>>345017625
Sure.
>>345017690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHQZNNajxOk
>>344988103
Playing thru the original Deus Ex now.JC Denton is the best protagonist ever
>>345017625
Play with GMDX
>>345005987
You'll need an upgrade to do that,I hope.
>>345017690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb0M1fg9pk0
>tfw hearing those strings while sniping mj12 for the first time
>>345018010
>comes with new vision too
fucking sweet, thanks anon
>>345017889
When due process fails us we really do live in a world of terror
>>344991421
Your meeting arranged in advance with the Federal Emergency Management Agency shall
be finalised within the time period of the following seven consecutive days. I have also
conducted a discussion on said manner with a member of the senate.
>>344990675
>>344988103
>>344989832
It's getting a remaster after MD is released.
>>345018274
What a shame.
>>345017690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBPK_oXeJgA
>>345018638
also, I loved when DX:HR made a short tribute to that track in the beginning of the game
I wonder if Edios Interactive has any interest in continuing the franchise by further developing the timeline, as in making a game that takes place after the Invisible War.
>>345018732
where?
if you mean the little radios, they can be found in multiple places and playing different Deus Ex songs
What biomods should I get in Invisible War? The Black Market ones sound better but then I'd waste a canister if I decided to pick something from the same slot
>>345018512
Do you have a single source to back that up?
>>344988103
>>345017269
Did you think I was being anything besides genuine? I'm horrified to think of the people you interact with if my statement made you believe I was being anything other than sincere. I genuinely like Deus EX and the threads I make get maybe 10 replies. So here is your reply.
>>345018836
It'd be really hard after how different the possible endings were.
>>345017690
That lead synth just does things to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1oxIrAX39M&list=PL1C572B526934FD97
>>345019348
Wow I fucked up. That's not the original version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yDVM77lGlM
Anybody watch this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7hUzbdRuhs
What do you think?
>>345017135
MD's got everyone coming out of the woodworks,shitting on it or otherwise. Pretty happy to see a thread last this long regardless.
>>345018945
Anyone?
>>345018901
nope, this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCGBzrpxpsU
I think it was the cutscene in the beginning when you speak with sarif
>>345020393
It looks like Human Revolution 2.0, which is alright. Wish they didn't use the console version and going full cawadooty which leads everyone to think that it's casualized shit again.
>>345020393
I still think the HUD looks overly large. Also it might just be me, but I think the cinematic takedowns actually look worse now.
>>345005073
>mfw czech
>watching the trailer
>listening to the pronounciation
>"Waklaw" instead of "vah-tslahf"
Every fucking time. MGS4, MW3, it's not that fucking expensive to hire a simple consultant, especially in Montreal of all the emigrant havens.
What do I do faggots?
Blow up area 51 and effectively cripple the jews or let the illuminooti fucking rule the world?
To me it seems a tad bit obvious that blowing it up would be the right choice, so there must be something else to letting the pyramid heads rule the world.
>>345018836
They'll probably pretend it doesn't exist since it's the farthest in the timeline, just like DMC2.
>>345020393
Too much takedown bullshit
seems to be cutscene heavier than HR
some augs are a bit dumb in how powerful they are (knock out 3+ people at a distance)
takedowns from cover
3rd person stealth a shit
>>345014939
He can't die. He's invincible. The best strategy is to lock yourself in the closet and let Paul kill all the enemies.
>>345020795
>I still think the HUD looks overly large.
No worryies there anon.
They said that the HUD is scalable.
>>345020859
Calm down, Prokop.
I came to liking how westerners try to speak Russian since all those old movies.
>>345020882
Why would you ever side with the Illuminati? Considering they're a big factor in why the world is as fucked as it is in DX. Go with Tong or merging with Helios.
>>345002705
>I doubt they'll let go of the flashy killmoves in MD, normies will complain
Dishonored has no takedowns, didn't normies like that game?
They're just doing it because eidos montreal is full of hacks.
>>345021026
>He can't die. He's invincible. The best strategy is to lock yourself in the closet and let Paul kill all the enemies.
Wait, what?lol
>>345020882
Blowing up a51 isn't the last choice you'll make, wether you do it or not will change what the map is like once you get there.
>>345020795
>Also it might just be me, but I think the cinematic takedowns actually look worse now
No I think you're right. The first one we see has no impact at all - it's just Jensen tapping the guy and flinging him to the side.
A friend of mine actually called human revolution the "first game" recently. He said that the new one is coming out soon and "the first one was pretty good so this second game should be even better", referring to HR. I just said "well there are two other games before HR" and then he just had to open his stupid mouth and utter the words "oh yeah well those are so old that nobody cares about them".
>mfw people "dont care" about the first Deus Ex.
GIVE ME THE GEP GUN
>>345021685
Jesus.
>>345020859
Is it true that Czechs are hoarders who never throw anything of minor use away?
I'm just asking because it's a stereotype here in America, perpetuated even by Czech-American grandmother (to whom it applies greatly)
>>345021685
Such is the life of any long standing franchise that had a big gap in releasing games and made a return with a successful sequel.
>>345020882
I usually go with Tong ending because it is closest to my own personal worldview. Whether it works best in the DX universe, I don't know.
In my experience, most people around here hate it though.
>>345021685
How can people think like this? Deus Ex holds up super well.
>>345021685
You should have prodded him.
>>345017137
The only "real" mod for IW is John P's texture pack. It does make everything look nicer but you're juts gonna have to get used to that ugly ass HUD.
>>345017690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnLGeBNXHc
>>345021797
I think it can be applied to most of the ex-USSR citizens.
>>345002568
Atmosphere brought about by genre convention. I bet you they'd have it be raining in New York and Hong Kong if the engine allowed it. Noir films always used rain for atmosphere, and that was the same feeling Blade Runner was trying to evoke, it being a noir film in the future. Blade Runner isn't necessarily fully cyberpunk, but it's still a huge influence on the the genre.
>>345021180
The way I see it, plunging the world into another Dark Age would make life miserable for everyone but the elite, the rich would still be well off because they can just pay people to do their farming and shit, but the middleclass and poor are going to get fucked or will have to toil their entire life, and humanity will have to fight it's way back to the technological state the DX world is in now and then another jewcorp will just do the same as the illuminati but under a different name.
If I join the illuminati I will most likely get betrayed by that faggot, but if not then I will have a say in how the world is being controlled, I can make it better.
I have yet to hear Helios option but I am 100% sure it's shit.
I still lean towards the Dark Age ending though.
>>345021685
>"oh yeah well those are so old that nobody cares about them".
What is it with younger kids and casuals these days dismissing everything that is outside of their timeline? I was born in the 80s and recognize great things from the 60s and 70s.
>>345022468
But I'm talking about cultural practices that came with the Czechs to America over a century ago
>>345002451
>Elias
> Eye color : Brown
>he clearly have blue eyes on that picture
>>345009456
So you're never played any classic CRPGs like Wizardry?
>>345022531
The main thing with the New Dark Age is that it will bring a decentralization of power. That doesn't equate to egalitarianism per se, but it will certainly prevent big, globalist entities like the Illumaniti, Majestic 12, or multinational corporations or governmental bodies from gaining power. The world is brought back to a pre-modern social order, which, depending upon your point of view, may have some virtues compared to the contemporary one.
What was the real reason for Page cloning Paul in vats?pls no bully
>>345022531
They can't pay for shit, credits are the currency in this world and if the world goes offline so does money
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/197021/Warren_Spector_Who_forgot_the_role_in_RolePlaying_Games.php
>2 years before deus ex
What went soright?
>>345023409
Is that better, or worse?
So everyone is equally fucked?
What are the chances that MD will go "augmented = muslims/certain minority, you just hate them because you are afraid/jealous of them and that's the name of the game, folks"
>>345022531
>le dark ages were bad meme
>>345017137
No saddly there is no "fix" to the consolitide of IW, but if you can ignore the console limitation, the game isn't that bad honestly from writing standpoint. There was an attempt of remaking the game as a mod for the original Deus Ex, it was supposedly playable but I haven't tried it.
>>345021797
It's true, but it's mostly technical stuff like tools, leftover car fluids or unused cement or wood planks and everyday use shit like plastic bags. Like seriously I don't know how you Americans can throw away a perfectly usable plastic bag and then buy the next week another one for your groceries. I'm not even poor it's just wasting money. There is nothing wrong with having a stack of old newspapers and and old toothbrush laying around, they see action atleast once a year.
I kept around a bunch of floppy discs and drives, thought about making them sing like they did on youtube when I have some time. Turns out you can still flash borked motherboards with those.
>>345022531
The dark age would stop any big organization like MJ12 or the Illuminati from gaining power, there would still be big corporations and bodies that would gain and hold power but nowhere near the scale as they did. Tong basically wants to turn things back to what they were before modern times, which depending on how you view things, can be better or worse than the current state of the world in DX.
Merging Helios basically ensures that JC/you would have absolute power and act as a benevolent dictator in order to guide people from not being total dicks.
>>345023665
>What are the chances that MD will go "augmented = muslims/certain minority, you just hate them because you are afraid/jealous of them and that's the name of the game, folks"
That was HR as well and we're getting even more of that stupid shit instead of actual wacky conspiracies.
>>345023715
Yeah well, unless you don't mind the countless diseases, cutthroats, public executions, elitist social structure where Noblemen shat all over the peasants and whatnot.
But I think the Dark Age ending might be best, I hope that the modern human in DX might have more empathy and a better understanding of eachother and that they can rebuiled humanity so that it cares for everyone and just not the 1337.
>>345023919
>elitist social structure where Noblemen shat all over the peasants and whatnot
It's not like we don't still have that though
>>345023879
The way Helios presented his idea to me gave me the impression that I would have no power whatsoever and that the AI would simply use my brain to understand humans a little better, to become a little more human but that JC would basically die.
man, it took me a while to figure out that I had to disable the frame interval, use kentie's launcher with gmdx and the opengl renderer instead with a fps limit of 120 to finally fucking have a smooth, bug free experience.
>>345004390
Holy shit, I need to rewatch this.
>>345024027
Yeah but us peasants have it slightly better than we used to.
>>345015525
Gotta kill Howard Strong to beat the game, dude.
>>345023620
Equally fucked until there's a standardized currency and people create banks again, then the cycle repeats itself
>>345020393
>aim at cover and press X for the character to automatically move there
>takedown from cover also hides the body for you already
>go into corner cover and use the thing that puts to sleep multiple enemies
>later he gets spotted by one guard and he just uses a frontal takedown on him
looks like they want to keep the player as much as possible from doing shit in this game
also they need to learn about fucking balance, not allowing you to easily takedown alert enemies would be a thing, for example
>>344988103
But it is?
It's still a good game. DE is in serious need of a graphics upgrade though.
>>345023895
They didn't go as hard as they could last time, but I look at that cinematic of theirs: beat the fuck out of a aug kid - he will get angry because everyone hates him - he'll go allahu akbar on your square.
>>345024204
no
You can just knock him out like anything else in the game
The person you HAVE to kill is pic related, no jumping over that. You can even spare Gunther, but not her.
>>345023665
well things are already looking grim by their "mechanical apartheid" theme, they're going to have subways with a clear division between augs and non augs
>>345024471flatlander woman
>>344991194
Agreed, though to be fair there's only like four augs worth using in the original anyway.
>>345024349
>graphics upgrade
Fuck off.
>>345023665
>>345023895
I don't understand this mindset, HR basically did this and showed that it was done because of a conspiracy for them to get more power and control. It's not like the usual conspiracies went anywhere and they made it pretty clear that there's shit happening behind the scenes in the trailers.
>>345023254
More test specimens for nano-aug technology
>>345024471
You can glitch her into opening the door for you.
Nigger ain't gonna survive a rocket being launched on his head, though.
>>345024673
What does it mean? Where's she from?
>>345008856
>made in unity
why did they do this
>crouch
>move slower than a snail
worst part of dudesex desu
>>345024471
>you can kill her to talk to Lebedev and get more information
I always loved that.
I really dislike stealth and shooting mechanics of first Deus Ex.
They aren't very good in HR either.
Everything else is great.
>>345000757
Yeah, the argument is pretty stupid by itself. I can understand how, say, keyboard-only or discreet movement in FPS can feel dated, or Medal of honor on gamepad without sticks, but Deus Ex? Come on, it is the same WASD+mouse essentially,
>>345024471
>tfw no sex slave phrase for anna navarre
JC could have used a little stress relief
>>345024925
unity isnt a bad engine nobody knows how to use it thats why you think its bad
>>345024909
What if I carried every wanker out of there?
Anna's death even has canon repercussions, like Gunther being dead set on killing you or Alex being a bitch with the key.
>>345025079
this
Layers of Fear looks extraordinary, like something done with UE4.
But shittons of Unity games are made by amateurs so they look often like shit
>>345020393
>that god awfully terrible Jensen mouth animation
holy shit
>>345023254
Guinnea pigs for RND, obedient supersoldiers. Paul and JC were supposedly failures because they were brought up as normal kids and not in sterile test enviroment. They were basically proof of concept. There are probably tens of other experiments that didn't work out as well.
>>345025371
why don't they use Unreal Engine 4 instead since it's free to use and only get a % of sales profits?
>>345024919
Russian Israeli. I guess the flatlander part is just a reference to some nerdy mathematical book.
>>344988103
>more and more people saying they can't play the original because it's too "dated"
What is every Persona game before 3?
>>345024925
>>345025371
>>345025079
Unity WAS a bad engine, retards. Everyone dislike Unity 4, but Unity 5 (most projects are now being made using Unity 5) is perfecly fine as it's no longer a mobile-focused engine.
>>345020393
am I the only one who think the game was heavily downgraded? like something from ubisoft?
>>345020393
I think No Man's Sky looks better
>>344996848
Get past China
Your missing out
>>345025767
That would imply it ever looked that great to begin with, it just looks the same as usual.
>>345017880
synapse reminds me of DeusEx more than the main menu theme, it's epic and has an extended mix on the OST
>>345024830
But Darrow just sits and rumbles there
>it will only cause more conflicts, humanity is not ready, Illuminati just wants to control them, we will live in villages etc etc
but Jensen then
>you just jealous, old man
and he
>well, you've got me there, indeed I am
That's quite a shitty conspiracy to be honest. He is so easily convinced that massive genocide is wrong, it's like didn't even know that people would die.
>>345008621
Problem is they managed to make it look worse than star fox on the super nintendo
>>345025753
No engine is inheritly bad. With enough tweaking of idtech3 you'll get Black Ops 3. People managed to get Quake Wars raytraced in real time in 2008
>>345026570
Everything in the franchise is a shitty conspiracy if you oversimplify and make it sound shitty like that. Also it's not like Darrow didn't know his actions were going to kill people, he was well aware of the consequences but figured the means justified the ends, especially when the Illuminati is involved.
>>345001308
Fun fact: The Hong Kong missions take place during the day. You can actually see in the Helicopter cutscenes that its daytime. It's just that the buildings obscure this.
>>345027656
No fucking way
>>345021685
Welcome to how Fire Emblem fans feel.
>>345020393
What happens when everyone gets older and Eliza stays the same age?
>>345027656
In DX1 or HR?
Alright, Just chose the Illuminati ending.
Call me a faggot or whatever.
But the cutscene showed JC using his newfound "Influence" to do good and the pre-MJ12 world seemed good enough, so the Illuminati seemed like the least drastic choice.
>>345028093
How would they even know through all that makeup, they could probably update her avatar too
>>345028174
Everett is a cool guy, it's not a bad choice
>>345028174
I picked the Dark Age ending, Humanity needed a good purge before rebuilding.
>>345002451
>Chikane
>It's a black guy
How the fr*ck is this allowed, bros?
>>345017690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BodNRjVCHjU
>mfw the composer commented on this remix
>>345028128
DX1.
I have no idea if it's a weird skybox or if it was intentional design, but you can clearly see the sun either coming up or setting in Hong Kong when you look over the buildings.
>>345028604
I figured that the Dark Age would mean raider gangs everywhere, global injustice and a "Only the strong survive" mentality.
>>345018512
It's not the graphics that turn people away, it's the gameplay.
>>345028749
>I figured that the Dark Age would mean raider gangs everywhere, global injustice and a "Only the strong survive" mentality.
>You will never play a Deus Ex game taking place after the Collapse where you play as JC Denton taking down raider gangs mad max style with hunker junk augs scrapped from different places.
>>345028710
Probably setting. I think the developers mentioned the fact that the entire game took place at night before. Could be wrong though.
>>345028765
Guess they're not used to good games.
>>345028749
Global communications and by extension, anything that ran off of that would be fucked. That doesn't mean old tech would suddenly stop working though.
>>345028908
>Guess they're not used to good games.
Speaking as someone that beat it last week, it doesn't have the most intuitive menus in the world.
>>345028903
That would be fucking great IMO.
>>345028174
>so the Illuminati seemed like the least drastic choice
This is certainly accurate. You might say that Illuminati is the 'safe' choice
>>345017507
Nevermind, it was a mj12 trooper diary in the cathedral.
>>345028971
What was confusing about the menus? They didn't bother me in 2009.
>>345029019
Eh, what's a deus ex game with no governments to topple, standard post apoc is too cookie cutter for DX, let Fallout handle it
How many of you bros read the Deus Ex bible? It's a damn shame we never actually got to side with UNATCO all the way through till the end. Would have been too ambitious but it was cool that they wanted to do it.
>>345029115
Not sure if "Safe" automatically equals "good" though.
>>345028971
I like the menus, you can even customize the color
>>345029163
They could certainly get creative.
A huge raider gang might've taken over a huge hidden power reserve the government built before the events of DX and are aiming to control the remaining technology in the world, so you must once again fuck up their plans and bring Justice™ to the world.
>>345027317
Then why did he give a code because of the jealousy card, and even confessed for you, exposing everyone meaning Page, DeBeers and others. I don't think any other conspiracy wages on man who was jealous because he couldn't have robo-leg and completely aborts the whole thing when someone points that out because beyond that I don't even see how his involvement in this even justified.
>>345029240
Well no; 'safe' usually favors the powers-that-be. The Illuminati ending makes the player assume that the powers-that-be are ultimately the best chance for humanity (which seems a bit hard to believe after everything that happens in the game)
>>345029240
There's no real good ending, in none of these situations is everyone left unharmed, siding with Everett just guarentees that governments will never become too powerful or people too rich without the regulation of the illuminati. It's a safe ending if you trust there to not be another MJ12 crisis
>>344994078
>sneaking around with JC's big fucking coat that makes him look bigger than he really is
>>345029550
>Anna makes fun of your coat
>>345028908
Let's not kid ourselves, DX has some pretty glaring flaws
>the shooting sucks. Even with combat skills maxed, it's incredibly clunky, and that flaw lies entirely in the engine
>piss poor AI
>you can exploit the living hell out of the password system
>the game is highly unbalanced. It becomes easy in the end with jacked up weapons that are heavily upgraded as well as the completely godlike dragon tooth sword. Hard beginning, braindead easy end, the opposite of how a game should be.
>for as good as the story it, the story's pacing isn't very good
>shitty ending, though that seems to be case in every game.The sad part is IW has the best ending of the games
>it says a lot that if you played as JC instead, IW would have a better story overall just because he's a better protagonist
>>344995491
No you don't understand, it needs crysis graphics at the very least, controls that can be played on a controller and JC needs a love interest throughout the game. Also you can't make any legit choices and the ending mirrors HR's rushed 4 buttons endings
Then, AND ONLY THEN will it be playable
Does anybody ever choose the alternative skin colors for JC? like ever in the history?
>>345021965
What makes Tong's ending so appealing for you, if you don't mind me asking.I'm totally not MJ-12.
>>345030450
The default is just too iconic at this point
>>345030450
I streamed DX roleplaying as Jerome C. Denton, UNATCO agent straight outta Compton. Other than that gimmick though, no.
What real name did you give JC Denton at the character screen?
500th post in summer DX thread
>>345029998
>Also you can't make any legit choices and the ending mirrors HR's rushed 4 buttons endings
Deus Ex 1 already has that.
>>345030450
>Juan Carlos Denton
I just want Denton back as the protagonist.
>>345030450
Someone started a Deus Ex thread a few days ago and posted a picture of himself using the blonde version.
>>345022531
Since the global currency is electronically based, it ideally levels the playing field again. You can't convince that poor Hispanic guy to clean your pool if you can't pay him and he has a family to feed.
>>345030450
Why was this even an option to be honest?
>>345030450
I played it first time an year ago and I was astounded that this was an option. I've seen some videos with white hair one but I though it was a texture mod
>>345029420
You didn't win the social battle from just calling him for being a jealous asshole, though that was one of his motivations. You had to call him out on his plan being insane and wouldn't achieve what he'd wanted. Even then, he gave you the code in hopes that maybe you could understand after seeing the "final boss".
Besides, Darrow wasn't behind everything in HR anyway. You had people like Page and others from DX doing shit, and Page was just a power hungry asshole.
>>345030450
Blonde version, since I like the idea of Denton looking like an aryan ubermensch. It fits the authoritarian purpose for which he was created in my mind.
>>345030740
it looks more like a ginger version to me
that was always intriguing, they thought of 2 different dark skins colors, ginger, albino, but not blonde? wut? who wants to play as ginger denton?
>>345030718
Done.
Next game you play as DX from Paul's perspective.
>>345030450
Canon skin colour best skin colour.
>>345030949
>in hopes that maybe you could understand after seeing the "final boss".
Oh man Hyron was creepy as fuck
The Missing Link was a great DLC. Such a shame it couldn't be a part of the main game at launch.
>>345030450
I like to play as old man denton
>>345030949
>yfw you realise the lazer gun shoots through glass and can end that fight before it even starts
>>345031110
The actual historical aryans had black hair though
>>345031127
>who wants to play as ginger denton?
People who want to roleplay as a souless machine?
Since this thread was nice heres a continuation
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>>345031501
>>fight
It's literally just 3 turrets, 1 tiny bot and 5 dumb crazed workers
>>345030536
It takes a lot to explain because it's a very complicated topic. A lot of this comes from my reading of G.K. Chesterton (whose works are referenced in-game), so if you wanted to understand my stance, read him.
Pt. 1
Basically, the world is screwed up because of modernity: globalism, materialism, the relentless pursuit of technological advancement. These things don't make the world better for the majority of people; they often make it worse. Remember Leo Gold's speech at the very beginning?
>Don’t believe me? It’s all in the numbers. For a hundred years, there’s been a conspiracy of plutocrats against ordinary people.
>Number one: In 1945, corporations paid 50 percent of federal taxes. Now they pay about 5 percent. Number two: in 1900, 90 percent of Americans were self-employed; now it’s about two percent.
>It’s called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.
Global interconnectedness is the means by which corporations and states are able to indirectly control people's lives. You don't live off your own wealth or labor: you either work for a multinational corporation or receive welfare form the government. Either way, you lose autonomy.
>>345031541
The Nazi grasp of historical accuracy is not the point.
>>345015525
This only makes sense if you assume JC and his friends are under no threat of harm from his enemies, and the only reason he kills is because someone violated his moral code.
Nuance, dipshit.
>>345030949
What did he want? That's what I'm lacking here. He says no-no to any augs, but then when you expose him to a jealousy card or "you can't do a genocide and expect people to progress" (which they will by the way) he says "fuck it" so quickly that he even gives up all of Illuminati on tape, what the fuck was his agenda then, he seriously did not know that massive amount of people would die?
Thread is about to die btw.
GET IN HERE DX BROS
>>345031494
>>345031494
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>>345030663
Yeah but you had the choice of keeping Paul alive or not in the whole thing, as well as some freedom how to tackle the lebedev situation. Insofar as I remember, even HR which I liked had few noteworthy choices, though Haas, fly girl and Pritchard's questline comes to mind.
>>345031164
Are you for real? Because if you're joking I'll have to tell you my heart can't take this.
>>345029912
>and that flaw lies entirely in the engine
Unreal and UT99 had pretty great shooting, it's literally just the awkward weapon handling that was stylistically designed to be that way, but you can diminish the effects of it with accuracy and recoil mods. Seriously just get good in pistols and slap some mods on it and you can play it as any other shooter. It's not supposed to be an FPS. To be completely honest the schizophrenic design in HR was way worse for me, where it doesn't know if it's a 3rd person cover shooter or COD.Seriously if you want your game to be play like COD, don't have toggle on aim down sights
Also the passwords are great, I wish they actually had some early stashes that could give players some good stuff in the beginning if they wrote down the password for more fun replay value. Fuck people who google the passwords, they ruin the game for themselves.
I agree with the rest though, especially the AI. I mean fuck, UE1 already has a really wide AI tweaking pallete, they literally forgot to use it.
>>345031956
As I said before, he knew full well people would die regardless. He wanted to expose the truth about the Illuminati and augmentations and had hoped that his plan would result in a clean slate, where the Illuminati and augmentations would not be around to fuck with people. And I did say before, it wasn't just the jealously card that would get him to say "fuck it" to his plan. Replay that shit again, it's a combination of different arguments that gets him to see that his methods were too extreme to work that would only serve to kill a fuckload of peopleand an arbitrary counter on whether you met the minimum requirement for convincing him.
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