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Which game does war right?
Operation Flashpoint
Red Alert 2
>>345024520
>"OH NO THREE IS DOWN"
>"THIS IS 4 TAKING COMMAND"
>"2'0 CLOCK BMP"
Damn right
>>345024154
You can't do war "right" in video games, you underage COD babby.
>>345025208
me on the left
>>345024789
Here's your (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNSMnEeKio
Black Ops 1
Valiant Hearts: The Great War
>>345024789
Oh, sorry, that wasn't for you
>>345024836
(You)
Overwatch
Ace Combat Zero
>tfw no Hiroshima game
>>345025208
In this picture we can see two very sad people grieving the loss of their helmets
Red Orchestra
>>345024154
Close combat and combat mission
Men of war.
They have names
They have families
You send them to die.
Spec Ops
>>345027402
I have no pity for those chinks. They shouldn't have gone to war illegally.
>>345024154
None of them do.
Metal Gear Solid
>>345027570
>war
>legal
All that legality bullshit happens AFTER the war. There are no real rules in war, just those who survive.
Red Orchestra 2 maybe. It's hard to tell, I'm glad I have never been in a war.
>>345027267
>Hiroshima game
>2 Factions: Civilian japs and the murrican pilots
>1 Mission in the whole game for each faction, either get obliterated by an atom bomb or press a button and make an U turn in a plane
Seems like a really wonderful idea
ArmA
>>345027707
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war
no
>vietnam level
>>345027267
Jeez. 80s anime was fucking gritty.
war is cute!
>>345027880
proves nothing
>>345027781
This anglo fuck nauseates me.
Oh well, he betrayed his country for zionism, and they suffered for it.
>>345028162
Do you know how to read?
>tfw no Chechnya game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNR7oOdIKh8
>>345025208
look at these homos
Brothers in arms aint too bad
>>345027194
Not him but it's almost contradictory to have a game with the reality of war. Because it fucking sucks.
Most of war is traveling and waiting. Which is boring and shitty to experience.
What game can replicate standing watch at midnight, catching a drag, and having a chat with the other watch guy before you look at your watch. Disappointment scrawls across your face as only 5 minutes were actually passed.
You don't want to play a game about war without either abstracting heavily or focusing purely on the kinetics of conflict.
>>345024154
My name is John Normand of 424 Urbandale, APt 1, called ftrwar by my gay friends. That guy looks like he has a package, and my ass is the mailbox. I hope he gives me a delivery. I love trannies.
>>345025208
Do I need to slap a bitch?
>>345025512
He killed many American soldiers with the fake baby bomb on his back
>>345027975
Well I guess the actual fighting is unfun just like real life.
>>345027975
>prone soldier
haha nice fan pic
How can you make something right when the whole concept is wrong?
>>345027653
They were just fucking kids
>>345028565
Winston Churchill's mother was Jewish. The British were literally fighting for a Jew
>>345028481
>package
thats a dog
this game wasn't as fun as some other modern FPSes but it had its moments and definitely did war in a different way.. this shit stuck with me for a while
>>345028606
>concept is wrong?
huh?
>>345027781
>We were supposed to have reached a stage of civilization in which it might still be necessary to execute a criminal, but not to gloat, or to hang his wife and child by him while the orc-crowd hooted. The destruction of Germany, be it 100 times merited, is one of the most appalling world-catastrophes. Well, well,—you and I can do nothing about it. And that [should] be a measure of the amount of guilt that can justly be assumed to attach to any member of a country who is not a member of its actual Government. Well the first War of the Machines seems to be drawing to its final inconclusive chapter—leaving, alas, everyone the poorer, many bereaved or maimed and millions dead, and only one thing triumphant: the Machines.
>>345027880
They wrote that story AFTER the war, like I said, so thanks for providing evidence of my point.
>>345028646
they were nazis
>>345028089
dat filename tho
>>345028779
>They wrote that story
What it has to do with fact that Japan declared war illegally and got nuked? Why is nuking bad in first place?
>>345024154
Wargame series. Less about the horrors of war and more about how battles are actually fought.
>>345028652
>this meme
Britannia would never ally a filthy socialist.
Labour ought to be hanged.
>>345029071
>Why is nuking bad in first place?
no idea man. I can't think of anything. absolutely nothing comes to mind. you're right.
>>345027873
>>345027781
these are the type of webms that actually show how fucking awful war is.
you can't blame devs for wanting to sugar coat it, but it's still interesting and no game has gotten this feeling down yet.
>>345029225
Wargame fucked me up like
>the recommended strategy is bombing towns and forests because that's where people might be
>>345029071
>Why is nuking bad in first place?
This. everyone tells me not to nuke my food in the microwave because it isn't good for you but no way in hell am I going to cook something.
>>345029225
>that feel when I spot a starting deployment army deploying on our flank
>send over the F-111C
>it drops it's 8000kg of bombs
>BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
I lost my aircraft, but the guy had to sit doing nothing for fucking ages waiting for his points to return.
>>345027952
It's an animation made for the Hiroshima Museum I believe
>>345029336
Japan survived. Is there a reason a nuclear bomb is worse than a standard bombing? The only points I can think of are in its favor favor: Speed and efficiency.
>>345029071
There is no such thing as an illegal declaration of war.
>>345029336
what's the difference between kill by nuke and fire bomb? or a mortar shell? Or a bullet? Why?
>>345024154
Spec Ops: The Line
Not BF 1
There any games where I can bomb children with million dollar missiles?
That'd be a real war game.
>>345029504
>>345029513
It's more about the idea of how it only takes a single weapon to kill tens of thousands of people in an instant
>>345027590
Just because there's an underlying "war and nukes are bad" message doesn't mean it depicts war right
There's still plenty of goofy moments, boss fights, and you still gun down hundreds of nameless soldiers
>>345027267
DROP THE BOMB DO DO DO DO DO JUST DROP THE BOMB
> mfw not a single game about the yugoslav war
the only thing that comes close is "this war of mine" wich was inspired by events in it, but there is still so much more potential content in that game
> warfare in cities and mountains
> a lot of barely trained rebels fighting other barely trained rebels
> a ton of stories of friends having to fight eachother in combat
> a ideological crisis, with both worldwide political interests and regiligious motivations involved in the war
> one of americas greatest military embarassments of recent history when they got their brand new stealth bomber shut down by unprofessional ahmeds
>>345028789
why did they not kill him?
>>345029428
>everyone tells me not to nuke my food in the microwave because it isn't good for you
Those people are idiots. The oven just makes the water molecules in your food vibrate so that it heats up.
>>345029589
>>345027547
>>345028721
>hehe, look at how bad you are for taking this decision that we forced you to take!
No.
Spec Ops is an adaptation of Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now, not a thrilling war story.
Plus the combat is unbearably dull.
>>345028871
They were, but they were kids
>>345029326
>>345029368
Yeah. Fucking assaulting towns man.
>Enemy Troops in town what do?
>A). Pop smoke in front of the town and assault with ground troops.
>B). Drop Napalm on them and mop up whats left.
>>345029737
>ahmeds
They were Serbians desu.
>>345028789
Anyone got the IRL pic of this?
>>345027590
Naw, MGS has down the espionage behind war, and what movies depict as stopping or preventing a war, but it doesn't have actual war down. The themes and whatnot are pretty spot on though.
>>345029513
I'm going to guess radioactive fallout
It's probably the same reason Flamethrowers aren't used anymore, inhumane if you don't die instantly
>>345028646
Yes? And? Do you think child soldiers are incapable of firing a gun or some shit?
>>345029591
>make a game about history
>don't make it historically accurate
this is an embarrassment.
Imagine making a feature film about Hiroshima but it featured a black man as a Japanese citizen when the bomb fell
>>345029489
Isn't it just the anime adaptation of Barefoot Gen?
>>345029326
Holy shit you posted this before I posted this >>345029446
>>345029914
I meant that they were muslims
>>345030008
imagine every movie ever made about wars, which are all inaccurate. You are just a baby, admit it.
>>345029863
guess what, napalm use of that kind is a warcrime
hell even doing regular mortar fire is illegal if its toward cities
>>345029591
/pol/tards find a reason to get offended over anything
Is having black soldiers in a WW1 game realistic? Probably not, but this is the same game where you can use explosives to send a car flying and the same game where you can simply hide for a few seconds to recover from a sniper bullet in the chest
>>345028871
how do people not realize every german wasn't a nazi by now, what sorta education do you people get
that's not even the proper germany army for fucks sake, it's the volkssturm, a literal militia force
>>345029591
Using the Harlem Hellfighters DLC skin in the customization option for MP. Stop forcing this meme.
>>345028646
this is the type of shit someone in a war will never comprehend. those kids wouldve killed us without a second guess.
I never wanna experience that feeling desu
>>345029983
>radioactive fallout
People leave in Hiroshima just fine
>aren't used anymore, inhumane if you don't die instantly
Cluster bombs are inhumane and still used, white phosphorus is inhumane and while banned still used
>>345030081
it is
>>345029918
there is no irl pic, it's just part of the movie, it's called come and see if you were wondering
>>345028789
>tfw grandpa told me of how his tank squadron just rammed through packed nazi civillian trains in Ukraine just as they were ready to leave
>tfw all those civs who were promised a bright future on the foreign land
>>345028191
It's not the anglo's fault, he was usurped by the Hebrew
>>345027653
>seeing kids with that much hate in their eyes
thats fucked up man
were they all killed?
>>345030169
Serbians hate muslims, its the bosnians that were muslim.
>newest
Also at that time The F-117 wasn't very new, and had already rekt shit in the gulf war
Pretty sure the YF-22 or B-2 are stealthier.
>>345030175
Not all of them. Waterloo by Sergey Bondarchuk is accurate to as much as you can be.
https://youtu.be/Yy_4JmGCt-Q
Mandatory music for thread.
>>345029454
>your favorite mmo after your friends quit.png
>>345030517
Do you see soviet soldiers? I don't, so chance are high that they were not
>>345029504
It is also the idea that the pinnacle of the technological advancement of a country results in a weapon solely created to destroy non-combatants.
>>345030517
What? Half of them look terrified.
>>345030008
it's a fucking DLC code option you can unlock for the harlem hellfighters that replaces skins. Calm your dick
>>345030619
Wow french soldiers speaking english? Americans playing as French? What a fucking disgrace to history.
Not really war, but one thing that >>345029618 reminded me of was how it always struck me hard how the dead bodies in F.E.A.R. all had a look of peace and release on their face
>>345027523
Did all 3 of them die?
>>345030517
You'd be pretty upset that someone invaded your country, shot your father, raped your mother, and then firebomded your house too.
give me your most disturbing WAR pic or webm that'll give me ptsd
>>345030798
No, I think only the first guy did.
>>345030187
Yes it is now, but Wargame is set in the late 1960s - 1980s.
Red Orchestra, I guess.
One shot, and you're probably dead.
>>345030729
Do you think he died
>>345027267
duck
and cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAiYwADzr2Q
>>345030187
>mortar fire is illegal if its toward cities
War on Donbass proves you wrong, since how much it is shelled in cities
>>345030369
huh, I remember seeing a grainy black and white shot of that scene so I thought the movie was reenacting it.
Pity isn't a word I'd exactly use for Russia, given circumstances and past treatment of other nearby countries but man you look at the longstanding history of the country and it's just so many dead people, revolution after revolution.
I'm more well versed in Chinese history and that general nature of how they came to be but I look at Russia and I'm just dumbfounded.
>>345030847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
>>345030265
This is literally not brought up anywhere when discussing WW2, other than in university.
>>345031025
i does not prove anything wrong, all it does is confirming people dont stick to the rules of war
yes its a real thing
>>345028646
Kids can kill people too. Musashi killed a guy when he was 13 for example.
>>345030265
>in war gear
>is german
>clearly had intentions to kill
Seems like a Nazi to me. You are the cuck from Saving Private Ryan who ended up getting his squadmate killed by releasing the Nazi. It's war. People are out to kill and win until the enemy surrenders. If you don't arrest them, you kill them. There are no in betweens.
>>345029326
This shit is why you don't move your shit outside of your AA bubble.
>>345031153
After Peter the Great up until 1917, things weren't that bad desu.
>>345031216
*In education, I mean.
>>345030195
What gameplay mechanics motivated the dev to turn the historically whites soldiers to blacks ?
>>345031256
>having gear, the intention to kill and being german is enough to be a Nazi
Christ.
>>345031153
>but I look at Russia and I'm just dumbfounded.
> revolution after revolution.
Wasn't Chinese history full of revolutions? Like late XIX to early XX they had "100 days of reforms" then boxers rebellion then Yuan Shikaj (or how was he called) made liberal revolution, only followed by overthrowing next elected government and whole warring warlord-kingdoms followed after WWI?
>>345027267
all I can think of while seeing this webm is damn japan you dun fucked up choosing to attack america
>>345031471
>angriiiiiiiiiiim
>>345031632
One of the admirals behind Pearl Harbour, whose name I can't remember, thought it was stupid too.
>>345031736
That would be Yamamoto.
Though i am quite sure the quote is fabricated, since he consistently underestimated the Americans (which led him to lose the Battle of Midway)
>>345031223
A rules of war none sticks to are not real rules of war. Who even said you can't shell toward cities? Is it actually recognized or just one of the treaties not even US signed too?
>>345031025
Donbass yes, but the city Donetz itself, was only ever shelled by stray fire.
>>345031632
They knew they had no chance to win, that's why they tried to avoid war with US as much as they could. Of course until USA embargoed them, they had not much choice left but to banzai and thought they could do same as in Japan-Russian war
>>345030053
was that the priest that would run into gunfire armed with faith to grab fallen soldiers?
>>345031153
Better than being ruled over by someone else for hundreds of years I guess. At least you get to fuck yourself over rather than someone else fucking you.
>>345031451
Whites are physically inferior so it's more believable if they are black ingame and able to jump over waist high walls and run around without getting tired or getting skin cancer.
>>345030293
translation:
>God, if I die young send me to heaven
>i've already been to hell
>>345032047
i had to look it up its some dumb vuvuzuelan priest 50 years back. if he'd let them bleed out their country might not have been as fucked up as it is.
>>345027267
So when are they going to make an anime that features jap soldiers raping and eviscerating chinese girls?
>>345032047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7po52DQytEs
>8:08
>it's literally Geralt of rivia
If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already dead!
>>345032003
Is Donetsk Airport close enough to count as part of the city? It was shelled like hell every day by both sides
>>345030879
>yfw the Poos are part of Team Red
>yfw the Israeli's are part of the Blue team
I don't care, I love Merka's.
>>345030291
>Harlem Hellfighters
>German and Australian soldiers are turned black
Can you think BEFORE you post absolute horseshit?
>>345031239
you know, the soldiers are people too.
maybe not all of them are the best quality person, but they are certainly better than most of these liberal shitheads plaguing the western world
>>345031239
A good reminder that just because a lot of people get fucked up by war it doesn't mean everyone does.
>>345029618
I have more of these.
>>345031114
It's a filter over a screencap from the movie, there's no "real" picture, but it's a common misconception.
>>345031492
It was real in my mind!
>>345031564
Mandate of Heaven along with Yuan, Ming and Qing dynasties helped keep China afloat for a long period of time. They weren't conflict less of course, but China for a long period of time prospered until the British Opium Wars among other emerging things of that time period.
It differs among people but I believe the Qing to be the most important in Chinese history but that's just me.
>>345028515
>t. dumb fat autist that has never and will never see combat
>>345030265
Hat at :13 has the totenkompf bade, so either he was part of a panzer division (unlikely) or one of the many hastily raised SS units, which means he was a nazi.
>>345028970
>webm cuts out the part where he says the mortar fire stopped afterwards
>>345031471
damn, war is hell
really makes you think
>>345032409
>that last guy twitching
i wonder for how long his soul was still kicking around in there
>>345029828
you make some really good points. I thought that it WAS pretty lame that your hand was forced throughout.
But imo it doesn't really detract too much from the narrative. just because I don't personally have agency over the situation doesn't mean I can't empathize with the main character, you know?? Like how in books we can feel for the protagonist even though they're the ones making all the decisions.
But yes, the game could definitely be strengthened with a little less linearity. I think it still shows war in a way that few other games want to tackle.
also yeah the combat was pretty lame haha.. that's why I said that I found other modern FPSes more fun
>>345031328
Except for practically everyone living in Russia.
>>345031849
yeah, the "sniper behind every blade of grass" quote is apocryphal
>>345032591
>his soul
Reported for underage
>>345030792
is that Mike from Red Letter Media
>>345032409
Was it just a coincidence that japan happened to have it's govt hijacked by the military at the same time that germany was on the warpath in europe?
>>345032809
nope, but I saw a picture of a dead body once that looked just like him
>>345027570
>going to war illegally
Nigger international law is just fucking words, outside the jurisdiction of any one national state, might makes right
Fortunately the US was mightier so whatever.
>>345032357
their adamant traditions ruined China, they could modernize as Japan did under Meiji but Cixi and alike thought they could live in time of yore all the time
>>345032901
irl?
>>345024154
That war game that was called back after the news outlets bashed it.
>>345032243
it's more in spartak than it is in donetsk, but yeah, it's technically donetsk-airport
are you sure it was shelled? I know it received a lot of grenade and small arms fire but I am unsure about actual shelling
>>345032939
At least chinese people can get their fuck on.
>>345032834
japan had it's government hijacked since the late 20s
>>345032834
>coincidence
Blame world stock colapse that was far worse in Japan than US because they lacked natural resources that Manchuria had
>>345032987
yeah, someone posted an old war picture that had some dead bodies lined up and the first person looked almost exactly like Mike in this picture
am I the only one somewhat fearful of the fact that their country requires you to sign up for selective service at age 18? I guess its not as bad as some of the required service other countries do but im 23 and ripe for the picking
>>345027267
Whats the point of the parachute? its still going to explode if it clashes with the ground lmao the fuck?
>>345032328
post them pls
>>345033036
mortar shelling, yes, not big guns but anti-personal
>>345033162
>its still going to explode if it clashes with the ground
nukes dont work like that
RO2/Rising Storm
https://youtu.be/ldNSMnEeKio
>>345028970
>>345032525
Is this vid on youtube with audio?
>>345033162
Pretty sure there is some sort of trigger in the nose that sets them off when something hits it.
>>345033162
Give pilots time to escape?
>>345033162
nukes generally don't explode when they hit the ground.
They airburst several hundred meters of the ground.
>>345033050
Europe still bears the scars from a war started over 100 years ago.
>>345033047
Chinese people ruined China and continue to ruin it. requesting webm of escalators/road paving/ANYTHING eating people in China
>>345033137
Is there a way to dodge service if you're picked?
My country has mandatory required service (6 months minimum) but you can choose to do civilian service instead and work in a school or something for one year. Then you won't be in the military reserve and can't be called to arms in case of a happening.
hitler should have just finished off britain he would have woned the war
>>345033548
At least they arent dying off because everyone is too much of a pussy to fuck each other.
>>345027167
this.
war makes men mad.
>>345033665
they have just 100 million woman shortage, nothing serious
>>345031329
If for some reason the Democratic party started a war against the world and exterminating citizens, you are implicitly responsible by not standing up and letting it happen even if you're not a registered member of the party.
For instance, Germans living near concentration camps knew 100% what was a going on and did nothing to stop it. These people are evil and deserve no respect; fortunately they were given none. The Americans forced people like this to march through the camps, including children.
>>345033631
What makes you thing operation Sea Lion would be a success? Remember that the Germans did not have any viable landing boats.
And the Brits had their navy and air force.
Hitler's campaign was doomed from the get-go.
>>345024154
This war of mine. Papers, please (it deals with the aftermatch).
OFP and ArmA.
Il-2 (strongly related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJKIO45xks).
Some moments of Medal of honor: AA and its expansions.
ALFA: Antiterror and expansion.
>>345032003
It is Donetsk, not Donetz. Donetz is a river. It is a big city, but it had some damage (check out city's group in vkontakte). And then there was smaller ones like Debaltsevo, or massive siege of Donetsk airport: see the movie or other youtube footage for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQNb9_ND7w
>>345033718
Still preferable to having a negative population growth rate.
>>345033718
I think you mean a 100 million man surplus that they can expend to annex their neighbors
>>345033739
>For instance, Germans living near concentration camps knew 100% what was a going on and did nothing to stop it.
and what exactly were they supposed to do? rush in with brooms and defeat the armed guards?
>>345033739
>including children
Yeah, because children could stop armed Nazis. Come the fuck on.
>>345033869
Who? Those Indonesian shitholes?
The Koreas?
Fucking Russia?
>>345033631
Hitler should have told Japan not to attack Soviets till they were prepared and opened two fronts with them in 41
>>345033787
I heard somewhere that germany was giving them all sorts of problems bombing their airstrips until a german city accidentally got bombed and hitler made them bomb british cities instead, which allowed the brits to get their planes and shit back flying and shit.
>>345034009
>Fucking Russia?
They already do so, Putin sells Siberia bits by bits to Chinese
>>345033869
Yeah but they wont
Lots of people seem to think they will for some reason.
They've defined economic growth as a priority since Deng, and they need good relations with the surrounding countries and the US to do that.
The most i can see them doing is annexing north korea, and even that seems unlikely.
>>345034012
The Japs could not afford to fight AND the Soviets together with the Chinese and the Americans.
Especially when the Soviets proved that they were capable of fending off the Japanese in the border conflicts in Manchuria.
>>345024154
Arma2's the only war sim, right?
>>345034120
Source.
>>345034009
vietnam, laos, myanmar
>>345034012
What?
Japan didn't attack the Soviets
I really enjoy threads like these because for the most part you get decent responses like the ones I've seen about Russia and China.
But it also reminds me of all the crazy shit that some countries tried like how Japan (in the later years) was gonna meet up Germany in India somehow and that would be the "Great Alliance" against the Soviet threat meanwhile they're developing 1 man jet bombers and suicide submarines that have so many fucking technical failures among other things it begs the question how did they get so far to begin with?
>>345034180
Yes, because soviets had Zhukov and tons of soldiers on border, had the Japs waited with that fight and captured oil rich Siberia when Soviets had to relocated army to fight Germans, they would have less problem with US embargo and could avoid war with them
>>345034434
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_border_conflicts
>>345034489
The Soviets always had a 600k to 800k army sitting in Manchuria. And it was always up to scratch.
>>345034439
Well shit, are you really going to put much effort into designing a suicide machine?
>>345032221
The civilians and military of WWII are completely different entities in modern Japans regard and when has any country besides the U.S. made content supporting their opposing forces in any state? The Japs were fucking dirty, don't get me wrong, but the lack of discussion is due to shame rather than pretending it never happened.
>>345033895
>>345033992
If people down the street had a camp where they were exterminating civilians and you're the kind of person who would just go on living like everything is normal and do nothing about it you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Yes. Go in with broomsticks. Stage a protest. Riot. Shit, we see people today make more of a scene over more trivial issues, children included. Yet in this instance we saw absolutely nothing but pure acceptance and support. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>345029071
>Why is nuking bad in the first place
Jesus fucking christ how retarded do people get.
>>345033162
if the nuke detonate once hit the ground, large amount of force would either been absorb by the ground and create a larger crater, or reflect off back toward the sky.
by having the nuke explode on certain height before hitting the ground, more explosive force would be able to spread out and lead to more damage on a city.
>>345025512
Kek
>>345034575
That had nothing to do with the conflict between the soviet union and germany.
Japan had their own political interests they weren't doing that to help germany
>>345034705
The difference is today people complaining about stupid shit dont live down the street from a camp where civilians are being exterminated.
>>345028089
War, can in fact be cute
>my /k/ombat /k/itty in afghaniland next to my gear
>>345034640
I know, it just baffles me like these two powers are like "Yeah we'll meet up near like India or Afghanistan or something."
Meanwhile off the coast you have Dimitri and Splessnekoff with a few hundred thousand men better equipped and prepared to crank you back for the war of 1904.
>>345031239
What an edgy shit
reminder
>>345034991
Well you never know I guess. Sure they are outnumbered and out gunned but strange things happen.
>>345031236
>>345030296
>>345029997
I'm a bit late, but I think he's saying exactly what he's saying. Those are children. Their lives taken by war before they were even able to experience it. They were shitty kids ,undoubtedly, but they had such long lives ahead of em.
>>345035009
Is it wrong that my first thought is that they really should move them off the road because they might cause an accident?
>>345032285
>a sociopath that enjoys killing civilians
>better than anyone
>>345034991
Well look at the british empire before the war, including protectorates and shit.
This was what they expected Japan to look like aftewards.
It's not that crazy. If the US stayed out of it that is.
>>345034630
Soviets had like 70k soldiers in Khalkhin Gol, which was biggest battle there, are you sure they would have 600k well armed and supplied soldiers to fight Japs even if Germany attacked?
>>345034895
They wanted resources and united Asia, Siberia had first. It's easier to work as a team for mutual benefit, even if you have different interests
>>345035134
4 or 5 years older is fine for war though. Expected even.
>>345024154
Hearts of Iron 4
>>345031492
I mean, I'm ethnically a German, but there is a reason people make those assumptions with that little thing that happened about 75 years ago
>>345035437
Whos the Nazi in the shadows?
>>345035259
>"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another."
>>345035437
boring game desu
Out of all the things you can do with a grand strategy you choose to play the glorified war simulator
But i guess that's what the thread's about.
>>345032285
The people who are so retarded they fight for rich people, at extremely cheap pay, in order to make the rich even richer.
THE BEST
>>345035437
>Hearts of Iron 4
dumped down compare to HoI 3, though battle plans were nice addition, even if AI was too retarded to execute one alone
>>345035304
That was one battle.
Generally, in a front, you don't put all of soldiers in a single freaking battle. Some fight it, others keep the front secure.
>>345035280
>civilians
>helping combatants
>implying they wouldnt bat an eye to do the same to you
>>345035281
Roosevelt absolutely molested Hoover in the polls but I always shudder if what if that brick layer had actually gotten a shot off on him, or if Hoover himself had just won.
I don't know, butterfly effects are interesting to think about a lot.
>>345035512
m. bison
>>345035512
You better learn his name 'cause he's Aa-dol-phy
>>345030008
Its stops being an embarrassment when they make a billion dollars per Battlefield game.
>>345035386
Guess you have a point. It never really hits that these men were all still kids, but that webm drives the wedge in that concept real deep.
>>345035512
Rudolph Heitler
>>345034909
Exactly. And if they did the reaction should be even more extreme.
>>345035512
Mel Brooks
>>345024154
Gears of War series.
>>345035596
>having fun shooting civilians trying to save a dying man
>not a sociopath
>>345024154
There is no right way to war. There is only war.....
>>345030710
>a weapon solely created to destroy non-combatants.
The fuck are you on about
An atomic weapon, just like any weapon, can be used for any use
Why aren't you bitching about the Tokyo Fire Bombing instead? That killed far more people as well as destroyed far more structures
What about the fact that Kyoto was knocked off the list of atomic bombing due to the cultural significance?
You can shut the hell right up
>>345035752
>shooting worthless terrorist human garbage
>not fun
>>345035591
concentrated firepower is how you break enemy front
>>345035836
You would piss your pants before shooting at anyone and you know it
>>345035729
I mean are you really going to try starting shit with the people who are mass murdering civilians? You cant see any possible consequences that might have for you, a civilian?
>>345033162
see
>>345033345
Nukes are programmed to detonate at preset altitudes. Some on land impact, some at certain elevations. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki devices were programmed to detonate some several thousand feet above the ground in order to maximize shockwave damage from the wind-sheer and to reduce fallout that would have occurred from a land burst.
The parachute was used specifically to give the plane time to turn around and fly away safely without getting knocked out of the sky by the air pressure wave.
That being said, the pilots were interviewed stating they actually felt 2 shockwaves. The initial shockwave from the immediate blast, and then the secondary shockwave reflection from the ground. It bounced off the Earth and went upwards. Pretty crazy shit.
>>345030776
>Harlem Hellfighters
>ANZAC
You need to get off the Internet and read a goddamn book
>>345035665
>>345035684
>>345035715
>>345035739
Why did he have to be shaded out?
>>345034097
basically Göring was a fucking retard as well as Hitler underestimating the need for german U-Boote to properly starve Britain
>>345035752
>Shooting civilians saving a man who was going to kill you
Fixed that for you, you fucking mong.
>>345035978
You need to stop being a faggot and acting like childrens toys are historical books
Reminder that if you want to blame something, blame the air warfare doctrine of strategical bombing, not the particular bomb chosen to do it.
>>345035752
A dying man who tried to shoot you to death ten seconds beforehand.
>>345035557
I have alot of liberal and alot of conservative stands, but the one thing that is annoying about liberals is this is the only argument they can ever come up with when discussing why conservative morals are wrong. There's a wide open book of arguments you can use against their beliefs, but it always comes "u love the rich and the rich r bad" a conservative wants numbers and statistics regardless of their accuracy so follow suit if you're trying to win someone of the opposing party over.
>>345035856
And the Japanese could not do that, since they had most of their troops fighting the Chinese.
>>345024154
Men of War series, Brothers in Arms series had a good feel to it too.
>>345036057
Video Games, like any media, should be held accountable for historical accuracy when the developer aims to do so. They said they removed women soldiers due to historical accuracy, even though there were women battalions in WW1 for some slavic nations such as Russia and Serbia.
DICE can fuck right off.
>>345031239
lol
american soldiers are literally monkeys with guns
>>345035993
Because of Germany's laws. If you seriously missed out on all the threads explaining this you should just kill yourself you fucking nigger.
>>345036096
Fuck off, did I say the rich are bad just cause? You are literally working for some of the most corrupt politicians and doing whatever they say.
People constantly, from nearly every country on the planet talk shit about politicians and call them cowards, liars, and theives.
Yet obey a politician unquestioningly and be willing to sacrifice your life and the lives of others? FUCKING HERO STATUS ACHIEVED!
>>345036030
>>345036068
Their still an unarmed civilian. I understand why you would do it but you shouldn't enjoy being in that situation. They probably went for the dropped guns once they realized they were being fired upon too.
>>345024154
skyrim remastered edition
>>345027267
>the nuclear fireball, 50 times more luminous than the sun, casts a shadow
TRIGGERED SO FUCKING MUCH
>>345036276
I'm sorry you lack reading comprehension.
>>345029589
>>345027547
Spec Ops was about as amazing as the first Bioshock, i.e. it wasn't.
>>345027267
> Japan preferred this over peace
How fucking dumb can a nation be when they're losing a war yet won't agree on peace terms that doesn't render them victorious?
>>345036134
and Soviets could since they were not fighting Germans, but if they did...
>>345035512
Because Germany thinks if they stop pretending hitler was a literal demon they'll become nazis again and conquer europe
>>345036397
Fuck off again, do i gotta quote the fucking sentence I was responding to? The phrase you literally put quotes around? So many faggots here.
>>345036280
Then maybe they shouldn't have dressed up half their soldiers as civilians so you could easily tell everyone apart and wouldnt have to worry every fucker with a head rap is about to send lead your way..
>>345036426
They didn't expect to win at that point, they expected something better than unconditional surrender
>>345036202
Russia and Serbia aren't in Battlefield 1
I think Red Orchestra 2 almost gave me PTSD.
That inner city German vs Russian map. With full teams. The chaos, the screen shake, the bullets and screaming and explosions while hiding prone downstairs, waiting for death...
>>345036575
That's fucking stupid.
>>345036501
Ur a faget
>>345036501
Just do yourself a favor and close the thread.
You're embarrassing yourself.
>>345028652
Here we go with cia meme garbage
The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
>>345036575
And neither is France.
Russia I can understand, since after the Russian Revolution, they pulled back and became neutral.
Serbia however, man, that sucks they are not included since they lost like 60 percent of their male population over the war.
>>345036656
Where are those facts and figures that show I am embarrassing myself my conservative cock gargling friend?
>>345035829
Nuclear weapons have been created to destroy industrial centers and population, tactical use of nukes is far less effective because armed forces are never that concentrated for it to be a trully effective weapon.
>>345035437
Seeing two armies grind at each other over a large front for years as the casualties tick up into the millions does give you another perspective on war.
>>345036570
>they expected something better than unconditional surrender
There's a huge leap between "unconditional surrender" and "let us have all the territories in foreign countries we're currently occupying and don't prosecute anyone for war crimes". And the later was what the ching chongs demanded, against their better judgement.
>>345036426
gook nations are indoctrinated as fuck, they're like ants. Total hive mind.
>>345036723
>Russia i can understand
No you don't. The Russians played a huge role in the war, by kicking the ever living shit out of Austria and the Ottoman Empire. The Germans did kick them back very hard though.
>>345035437
>mfw when I nuked moscow
>>345036767
>let us have all the territories in foreign countries we're currently occupying and don't prosecute anyone for war crimes
That's not what they asked
There were no peace talks either way
>>345036280
Most of them don't pick up the guns just because they're fired at.
If you were a soldier, would you take any fucking risk? I sure as hell wouldn't. Most of them dress the same anyways, so I have 0 clue who a true innocent bystander is. It's their life or mine. This guy just said he followed his orders and that war was fun, not shooting the random civilians.
>>345032616
>just because I don't personally have agency over the situation doesn't mean I can't empathize with the main character, you know?
Actually it kinda does. When the game is providing you with a decision to make, it is asking you to role playing. Role playing needs some suspension of disbelief to happen effectively. Being the completely linear game that it is, there is no suspension of disbelief in the contextual scenario of "you were being controlled / persuaded by an external force" or "you were making the decisions all along" like the game tries to convince you of.
>>345032157
Fuck that's painful
>>345036752
Nukes were made due to a mad rush to be the first one to do so.
They were used to end the war with Japan before we had to invade the mainland. The targets, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets and not just pure civilian centers.
Fun fact: We are still handing out Purple Hearts that were created for the sole purpose of the invasion of mainland Japan due to the high amount of casualties that were expected.
One can say that Japan was saved by the Nuclear Weapon.
>>345036932
I know they did, but the game takes place during 1917-1918
Russia was out of the war by then.
>>345036926
Just like free consumers in america
>>345037009
empathy =/= role-playing
Spec ops would be a horrible rpg
>>345036951
>he can't defeat the USSR by 1941 while having both the brits and the french fully capitulate and peace out before that
git gud
>>345037047
There were plans to drop like 10 more nukes in preparation for the invasion if the japs didn't surrender. And they nearly didn't.
>>345036910
>>345036738
Right here
>>345036989
>If you were a soldier, would you take any fucking risk?
This is such a bullshit argument. Some faggot invades a country and then says I'm not gonna take any risks! My safety is paramount!!!
Then dont invade you coward shitstains.
>>345037047
>Game takes place during 1917-1918
No, it doesn't
>>345034975
Cute as fuck
>thought you were 3/1 at first
>would've been your boots boot
>>345036767
>There's a huge leap between "unconditional surrender" and "let us have all the territories in foreign countries we're currently occupying and don't prosecute anyone for war crimes"
No, they just expected that Japan on peace talks will be treated like loli in the hentai doujin
>>345036426
They were expecting the Americans to invade.
As well as surrenders that were unconditional.
Hell, there was a coup attempt the night before the Emperor read the surrender to the people of Japan.
>>345037047
>1917-1918
into the trash it goes
>>345031632
No they fucked up when they didn't accept to surrender even after USA explicitly told them that they have some fucked up shit hidden under their sleeve
>>345037079
>empathy
Dude, you are asked to make a decision at the end of the game. That's role playing. You're not watching a movie then, simply "empathizing" with the character. You're interacting with a video game.
>>345037129
We only had one other bomb to drop and others were being made but not nearly at the pace to drop them in mass.
>>345034671
>the lack of discussion is due to shame rather than pretending it never happened.
As someone who grew up in Japan, this is complete horseshit.
They literally pretend it never happened in history classes, and I was straight up expelled from my school for even bringing it up.
>>345037117I was Brit
>>345029828
>>345032616
>>345037009
I think it was linear because it was a story about Walker (that was his name, right?). You're just kinda controlling him/spectating the whole thing.
I liked how it apporached the whole thing, much better than other warfare games (which are all either BF or CoD by now)
>>345024154
I'm assuming your definition of "right" means "Horribly depressing".
>>345037159
It has the Americans
>>345037321
You sneaky beady-eyed angloyou did well
>>345037267
Yeah well i guess giving some choices to the player was bad then because it gives you a bad impression of what the game's about.
There are plenty of good games where you don't roleplay the character you control.
>>345037220
It was Imperial Japan. Looking back on it, it's astonishing they didn't all commit mass sudoku when they lost.
>>345037145
In a country where any motherfucker on the street might have bombs strapped to their chest or that piece of rubbish on the road might be booby trapped risk taking leads to a very short career.
>>345033631
>>345036024
This.
There is a reason why even the military tried to assassinate Hitler
>>345037279
>On Marshall's orders, Major General John E. Hull looked into the tactical use of nuclear weapons for the invasion of the Japanese home islands, even after the dropping of two strategic atomic bombs on Japan (Marshall did not think that the Japanese would capitulate immediately). Colonel Lyle E. Seeman reported that at least seven Fat Man-type plutonium implosion bombs would be available by X-Day, which could be dropped on defending forces. Seeman advised that American troops not enter an area hit by a bomb for "at least 48 hours"; the risk of nuclear fallout was not well understood, and such a short amount of time after detonation would have resulted in substantial radiation exposure for the American troops.
>Ken Nichols, the District Engineer of the Manhattan Engineer District, wrote that at the beginning of August 1945, "[p]lanning for the invasion of the main Japanese home islands had reached its final stages, and if the landings actually took place, we might supply about fifteen atomic bombs to support the troops." An air burst 1,800–2,000 ft (550–610 m) above the ground had been chosen for the (Hiroshima) bomb to achieve maximum blast effects, and to minimize residual radiation on the ground as it was hoped that American troops would soon occupy the city.
>>345037145
>coward
>Don't invade
I don't understand this at all.
How is this a bullshit argument? There are plenty of scenarios in war where an invade is necessary or for the greater good. In that situation, it should be expected for soldiers to fight for their safety, even at the costs of some civilians. What is with your retarded logic?
>>345035437
American release has the actual Hitler
>>345037512
Ya know what leads to even shorter careers? Cutting trees or catching fish. So fuck off with this muh soldier's safety bullshit.
>>345036643
>mfw I have an old CD helmet
There once was turtle by the name of Bert
>>345037478
They did commit mass sudoku, but not because they lost, it was because the emperor was forced to publicly renounce his divinity
>>345025512
Graveofthefireflies.jpg
>>345036752
when the fuck would a huge explosion not be a good weapon against armed forces
>>345037532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall
>>345037565
Ya not a coward. Fighting poor people wearing sandals while having the worlds strongest military at your back with billion dollar tanks, jets, and missiles.
MUH SAAAAAAAAFETYYYY
>>345024154
war can't be done right
>>345035437
Why is Hitler shadowed out as if we're all retarded and don't know who he is?
And if they're going to shade out He Who Must Not Be Named, why don't they also remove the swastika?
>>345037414
I also made generous offer to Fins
>>345037662
You are going to have to explain that shit friend because lumberjacks and fishermen probably dont have to worry about fish or foliage whipping out an AK.
>>345031736
A lot of the Admiralty was against the war (although Yamamoto himself proposed and planned Pearl Harbor, which is why the quote is bullshit.)
>>345036201
Brothers in Arms 360 was the most beautiful war fps I ever played.
Because it was bright and colorful i mean
>>345037565
But after that the freedom everyone needs to be obedient to is being a slave for green pieces of paper for another person to dictate their lives. They get to have only the freedom of choosing McDonald's and Pepsi
And McDonald's and Pepsi is more free and gets more love then humans themselves
>>345037309
As someone who grew up in Japan, this is complete horseshit.
They don't teach it in history classes but I've seen it brought up in schools before and no one ever got in trouble for it.
>>345035925
Absolutely. There's not many things in this world as evil as concentration camps, and if you know it's happening you have a responsibility to do something about it. I somewhat agree with your overall notion that it's unlikely you're going to be able to storm the place or something with much practical success (although the point feels like unimportant minutiae), but yes I do think you should put your life on the line to combat it despite the consequences. Hell, I've seen interviews with women and young adults who have travelled from all over the world to go fight ISIS in Syria because they feel wrong living in a world where such evil people exist and want to stop them. You could learn from them.
>>345037831
They are statistically more dangerous jobs than fighting sand niggers.
>>345028216
>7 December 1941 – Empire of Japan declares war on the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa.
Not that, anon, and not arguing the same point, but can you?
>>345037759
What the fuck are they supposed to do anon? Walk around like rambo with no shirt on? Not check for bombs? Let people shoot at them?
>>345037792
Praise tengri.
>>345037974
>What the fuck are they supposed to do anon?
Uhmmm not shoot unarmed people trying to help the gravely wounded.... ffs.
>>345037759
Soldiery is a job like any other. Except in some extreme cases like the world wars, when mass mobilization occurs.
>>345037897
What the fuck do you propose to do? Stand outside the gates of Auschwitz and start shouting and throwing water balloons at the guards?
>>345028703
Fun fact - those are real bullets
>>345037840
Yamamoto opposed the war
He just said that IF Japan was gonna go to war, they should start it with Pearl Harbor
And he was right, it was a huge blow to the US navy that took them years to recover
>>345037897
How come you arent out fighting ISIS then anon? If they are as bad as concentration camps why dont you go do something about it.
>>345038071
If by job like any other you mean cop in america, then i agree. Most other jobs you dont kill people.
>>345037927
Probably a lot more of them than dudes fighting sandnegros.
>>345038174
How come you're attempting to argue with an obvious retard?
>>345038174
Israel is amassing tanks and construction vehicles to build mass fortifications in syria
>>345037897
I combat evil by being jacking off in my room all day and being a drain on society.
>>345038083
>huge blow to the US navy that took them years to recover
most of those ships were to be decommissioned soon
>>345038256
it's % not total number. Statistically.
>>345038041
How can you tell right there and then they are unarmed?
>>345036675
Where does this pasta come from?
>generations ago people experienced hell
>worked hard so that new generations don't have to experience it
>thanks to them I'm sitting here, frogposting while I just let depression devour my youth and just sit here while thinking "Fuck those IS bastards, what's the deal with terrorism?"
The least I could do is not waste my days by hating myself
>>345038291
And half the world was massing forces to fight Nazis.
>>345031328
They had a revolution because things were literally that bad in hopes that they would change you stupid shit.
>>345038363
A 33rd degree mason who at the time was a confederate leader and created the kkk
>>345037792
They finally embraced their legacy
>>345038083
>it was a huge blow to the US navy that took them years to recover
They were able to go on the offensive in less than a year, the attack's plan was for them to take years.
>>345038335
Well shit, they need to step up and get their health and safety in gear. Thats just embarrassing.
>>345038321
Nope
>>345028789
idi i smotri, what a movie
>>345038174
>>huge blow to the US navy that took them years to recover
But that's wrong, you idiot.
>>345038347
You gotta use these things called eyeballs, not everyone has them and they can be pretty tricky to master, but once you do you can check to see if someone has no arms
>>345036426
Hindsight is 20/20. Their plan was to basically kill as many Americans as they possibly could before they were reduced to extinction by any kind of invasion.
>>345031632
>>345032043
Eh, from a Naval standpoint at least they were pretty on par with America. Our intelligence is the only reason we ever turned the tide.
>>345038404
They are basically bad action movie level villains. Even other terrorists dont like them.
>>345027952
Don't suppose anybody has the LoGH webm of the hull breach
>>345038432
It's like half of half of the world is fighting Isis.
This time around it is not a big army invading unless they get attacked by terrorists. Best way to start a war up is go into a country rile up the disenfranchised get them to help you and start chaos then leave and go to another country and do the same then come back to the old place and do massive attacks
>>345038596
>no one has ever
>EVER
>hidden a weapon
>especially not something like a bomb or some form of explosive
I guess you yanks have concealed carry permits for the laugh is it?
no fps really covers war properly because in real war there's no heros that kill thousand of enemies
a realistic war game would be one where its hundreds of npcs plus the player vs hundreds of npcs, and when the player died he would take control of another npc.
online games also fuck it up because respawns don't realistic simulate re-enforcements, look at insurgency, war doesn't play out like that in no part of the world
>>345038074
It'd certainly be better than sitting there jerking off while the smell of burning corpses wafts through the air like somebody like you would resign to do.
You realize every camp was not as massive as Auschwitz right?
>>345038825
What about Arma 3 on an RP server?
>Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Prepare for some major feels
https://youtu.be/poz3SE0pzdc
>ArmA 3
>Squad
>Insurgency
>>345038814
That guy dragging a half exploded man to safety must be carrying a bomb... I bet he is the one who killed the blown up man.
>>345038858
>It'd certainly be better than sitting there jerking off
I really doubt that. Jerking off is pretty great.
>>345037220
The only reason they didn't surrender was because they were in talks with the Soviets to try and get a better deal than "unconditional" (which they fucking proposed in January almost the exact same terms bar the Emperor losing his throne, which MacArther ended up conceding to them anyways) But then the commies ended up doing what was essentially a back-stab by breaking their non-aggression pact in order to fulfill its Yalta/Tehran promises. Japan really didn't give a fuck that yet another couple of its cities were destroyed (Tokyo firebombings were a magnitude worse than either of the atom bombs), they just shit their pants at the idea of being partitioned between the Americans and Soviets so they sucked it up and went with the American outcome knowing it would be better in the long run for them.
>>345038718
Yeah thats great and all but when everyone has the boarders on lock down and your house is down the road from the place you want to make war on you might face problems.
Also most germans were probably more worried about getting bombed to death or mascaraed by the russians
>>345038970
He's just doing that to throw you off his trail. Just like murderers who call 911 claiming to have "found" a body.
>>345038970
So no soldiers try to carry away their wounded?
>>345039098
I saw that the European version of the tsa is all Muslim people and they have good cities that are European and in the slums there is overcrowding Muslims. Europe is going to get the brunt of this. America has Russia and China to deal with
>>345038623
Japan knew they would lose the fight. Their goal wasn't to beat America into submission, it was to cripple them long enough to strengthen their core holdings that once America did regain its strength they would be too exhausted to want to deal with trying to retake the Pacific from them. The Pearl Harbor gambit was an attempt at forcing America to the negotiation table so Japan could keep its empire and not be embargoed, other than that they had no desire to actually fight us.
>>345037047
holy shit, the mental gymnastics one does haha.
>>345038967
More RO2
https://youtu.be/b3K0tI-EyGY
>>345037170
Damn straight he was
>found him out in the weekly bazaar
>shit head kids beat the mother to death and were working over the kittens
>awwwhellnawww.PNG
>I've never smacked a little kid before
>felt fucking good
>we weren't allowed to touch local wild life
>collective fuck that
>everybody helped nurse him back to health
I miss mr Stubbs (both the bbq sauce and because his growth was stunted)
Also I was 3/8
1/3 was 1st plt 3rd squad
>>345030162
that's a baller kid right there
>>345039194
>bombs target based on cellphone metadata
>kid borrows cellphone
>bomb kills 30 people
>Man in minivan approaches to help
"SIR WE GOT ANOTHER ONE THEM FACKIN TURRISTS APPROACHING? REQUEST PERMISSION TO FREEDOMIZE THEM"
>>345031239
doing gods work
>>345039337
Japan surrendered because of the actual Russian invasion on their country which was far more dangerous than the atomic bombs.
>>345037017
croatian soldier btw
>>345037159
But it does?
>>345038174
Where did I compare as to which degree ISIS and concentration camps are evil? I didn't, read up.
If I was living in Syria or Iraq I would absolutely be fighting ISIS.
>>345039316
Sometimes its nice to live in a part of europe that no one really wants to emigrate to. All the rain and grayness would probably drive off all but the most fucked refugees.
>>345039486
I think we can all agree drones and cellphone strikes are dumb as hell.
But we've gotta keep the region permanently radicalized somehow. A lot of people make a lot of money manufacturing all those bombs.
>>345039513
Yeah, I'm sure two nuclear weapons had nothing to do with it. Nothing at all.
>>345039637
Just be careful.
>>345039725
Why can't it be both?
>>345039343
Care to explain?
>>345029591
What if they're just dirty?
>>345039725
It's both
>>345031887
probably the latter. just like the retarded hollow point treaty. you're fucking already shooting someone, who cares what type of ammo it is. This isn't a nerf battle.
>>345038970
Because people can't hide weapons and protect those soldiers they support.
>>345039582
>Hell, I've seen interviews with women and young adults who have traveled from all over the world to go fight ISIS in Syria because they feel wrong living in a world where such evil people exist and want to stop them.
Sure go fight concentration camp guards in nazi Germany, in the middle of war time, during one of the largest wars in history when you have no resources, no training and the leader of the country is a madman who will order the death of civilians as easy as he takes a shit.
I am sure you will have a huge impact.
>>345039971
Slippery slope.
If we allow hollow points the next thing you know they'll be using square bullets. Or coating bullets in cyanide. It would just devolve into chaos.
>>345034009
>>345034162
All those little islands in the ocean nearby. They just recently shrugged off a ruling against them over some contested islands with Malaysia or similar.
>>345039728
Only muslims I know make really nice food at the chipper beside where I stay at college. Cant see any of them blowing themselves up soon.
>>345040060
Should kill everyone because they might have a weapon. The real funny part though is that the US military, one who protections a constitution which gives everyone the right to bare weapons goes to the other side of the planet and will murder anyone with a weapon. Delicious.
>>345035506
What thing?
>>345039823
Because people wanted to argue? I'm going to throw fuel on the fire and add that the Emperor made no mention of the Soviets invading Manchuria but did mention the atomic bombings.
>>345040248
Once again, if they maybe had some sort of uniform to distinguish soldiers from civilians maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. Its almost like the guys they are fighting are intentionally mixing in with their own civilians to make things difficult.
>>345040103
>the leader of the country is a madman who will order the death of civilians as easy as he takes a shit.
nice meemee
>>345040248
who gives a shit about those savages anyway? they rape and kill and and get high and dont bat an eye about killing and torturing people weaker and/or different than them , fuck them, fuck their sons and daughters, fuck their pitiful culture
>>345027267
USA USA USA
>>345040117
square bullets? cyanide?
Depleted Uranium is what you're looking for.
In any case, hollow point bullets are ineffective against armor. If anything the treaty should have been lifted for any war against terrorists, since they're mostly unarmored and are already war criminals themselves.
>>345031137
Is that a siberian soldier?
>>345040503
I know there a lot of memes these days but is hitler being a huge dick who makes poor wartime decisions really one of them?
>>345040497
Do they go to the local uniform stores to buy 1? How do you get all the tribal people whove never even spoken to each other to agree on a color?
>>345040517
Americans? Ya they are dicks
>>345040117
The slippery slope is a fallacy, you realize that, right?
>>345040556
russia is europe
>>345040503
Holocaust denialman plz go
>>345040642
That post was a joke, you realize that, right?
>>345033139
Read some fucked up stories about Passchendaele a few years ago.
Apparently there was so much mud and shit that soldiers had to resort to literally stepping on the dead.
According to one testimony, they would want to step on the guys that were face down, because if you stepped on guys that were face up you'd risk just sinking through their rotted guts and into the mud.
>>345040678
Russia is asia, dumbass.
>>345040715
No, but thanks for clarifying.
>>345040503
Hitler ordered the person in charge of guarding Paris to blow up all the landmarks with dynamite if they had to leave. He also ordered Speer to blow up all German infrastructure in the last months of the war. He was literally a mad man.
>>345040639
Gee I dont know anon. Maybe the same way you get them to organize attacks on people. Or the same way you get them all their guns and weapons.
>>345040639
If your cause can't even set aside their tribal bickering to agree on a uniform, it probably isn't worth supporting.
>>345039421
>picked up this game a year or two
>really should of played more but of the two matches I played
>all I remember is running through an open field to a pile of logs with two other people behind and looking back out at the field
>see people also running across just get taken out
>turn back around look over the logs hear bullets flying but can't see anyone
>person to the left of me slam to ground
>person to the right of me collapses
>stuck behind this pile of logs all my team mate are dead around me, can't see the sniper(s), nobody can get to me, alone
>couple 100 yards of no cover in front of me, toward what is probably the building the sniper(s) hold up in
>several 100 yards of open no cover field behind me
>sit behind the logs not know what the fuck to do other than sit here do nothing or die a futile death
>>345040802
Eurasia.
>>345040802
>>345040678
You are both correct and also each of you is an argumentative pedant.
>>345040821
To be honest, sharp uniforms are the true indicator of an army's worth.
>>345040912
Asope
>>345040912
>>345040802
>>345040678
Nigger I'm talking about the particular soldier on the right.
I'm actually playing Medal of Honor: Frontline on hard right now. it's pretty fun figuring out optimal strategies on how to be as chincy as possible to pass the levels. game is sorta shit but it's still fun. love the runaway mine cart level at the end lmao.
>>345040818
>>345040821
Ok ahmed, gather all the other ahmeds and we will meet up on tuesday night to discuss the uniform situation.
But ahmed! The americans, british, canadian, and syrian armies are right outside the city! We dont have time for this.
SHUT UP AHMED, we will make time or our cause is for naught!
>>345040809
To be fair blowing up your own infrastructure so the other guys cant have it isnt anything new.
>>345040248
>bare weapons
Lewd.
>>345040973
Let's not get carried away there.
What are the best WWII strategy games? Not grand strategy and not CoH. Maybe something squad based
>>345029454
This hit me real good.
>>345041110
Blitzkrieg is top tier.
Men of War is great as well.
>>345041053
>maybe we shouldn't be murdering civilians after all?
>>345040556
The Soviets had many, many siberian/mongol troops fighting for them.
>>345040809
Of course he wanted to destroy German infrastructure. He was fucking desperate and wanted to leave the Soviets nothing. Do you know how they were treating captured soldiers and German civilians under their occupation?
Plus he was slowly dying towards the end of the war. His doctor was slowly poisoning him with morphine and I think he had signs of parkinsons disease or something like that.
You think the Americans wouldn't have done the same if the Germans were advancing on Washington, decimating the U.S army at every turn, and butchering the populace?
PLanetisde 2 has none of the feels of war, everyone is a disposable planetman who respawns in seconds but no other game has captured the scale of war as well. No other game has battles of that size and real shifting frontlines
>>345041053
Yeah because they cant call each other over the phone, or the internet or fucking radio. They make every decision with every major leader in one room.
>>345041110
There was one that played like a jagged alliance game, but I can't remember what it was called.
>>345041206
>they cant call each other over the phone
Incoming drone strike ahmed! They tracked our meta data! I told you uniform color wasnt important and to hang up you dumb fool!!
Dont worry ahmed I gave my cellphone to that orphan boy over there.
>>345041063
Scorched earth isn't anything new, but it does cause immense hardships for the local population. The war was all but over and Hitler committed suicide less than a month later. He was putting German civilians in a horrible position over a fantasy of having them commit a guerrilla war.
>>345041371
Well they communicate somehow, so your meme arrow strawman is moot.
>>345041000
He could be from anywhere, northern parts have mongoloids, so is far east, and southern parts of central region.
>>345041573
Ahmed has trained a great many carrier pigeons. But ahmed shot them, saying they carried foul diseases.
>>345041371
Well that would work wouldnt it? its not like they have to discuss anything. Some imam just has to announce that all holy warriors should wear X clothes.
They use the internet anyway. 4Chan got some training camp bombed based off a picture one of them posted for fuck sake.
I hope I don't live long enough to see another great war
>>345041621
The fact that mongoloids is an actual scientific term cracks me up.
I've only ever heard or used it as a derogatory insult, implying someone is retarded.
>>345041810
Are you planning on living through the next two years? It's heating up.
>>345041851
I believe they used to call retards mongoloids because back in the day they thought their faces made them look Mongolian.
>>345041810
I don't think there ever will be another large formal war. If things really do get hot, it's going to go nuclear before tanks roll across france
>>345040248
>kill everyone because they might have a weapon.
Man, I love it when people change words to make their argument sound correct. Good job anon!
War looks comfy.
How come many men pussy out?
>>345041757
Ahmeds I call on you this day to unite as one! We will drive away this western scourge, we will drive away the infidel scourge, we will drive away the jew noses! And we will do it in style!
But for real do you honestly think there is 1 guy they all listen too? Or they like to hold conference calls with the hundreds of loosely related group leaders?
>>345042013
>tfw Russia actually ordered nukes to be fired at america but it didnt happen because the guy in charge of the nukes wouldn't do it.
>>345042192
Bin Laden was that one guy, nowadays if there is a "guy" he's kept his head down. We don't hear about sandnigger Hitler every day on the news, just ISIS the faceless
>>345042179
They yell at you and make you carry heavy things in the military and something something brainwashed sheeple.
>>345042192
They have to be getting orders some how. How else do they know who is the infidel they should be attacking? Do you really think that there is no one in charge making decisions?
>>345042332
He wasnt that guy unless you are thinking of the ~100 Al Qaeda members that existed in 2001.. He was just the face of the bogeyman.
Here this picture will clear up some things
>>345042179
Getting shot hurts like a bitch and watching your buddies get killed beside you sucks balls.
>>345029513
>>345029504
A single bomb or mortar shell or bullet has less collateral damage than a nuke. The majority of people killed by the nukes were civillians. Same happened with Firebombing of Tokyo but a single firebomb could be used to less collateral effect than that. A nuke will always have higher civillian casualties than a more targeted weapon.
Also the fallout is significant. Still effecting people three generations later.
>>345042456
Sometime in the cold war, I remember hearing about it in school.
>Ivan just at his desk looking at the nuke radar
>nuke radar says nuke incoming
>IVAN PRESS THE BUTTON NOW
>no wait what if its a fluke
>IVAN PRESS IT
>hold the fuck up
>it was a fluke
>nuclear holocaust averted by that much
that's what I remember
>>345042456
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident
>>345029725
I thought MGSV depicted the fear and brutality of war pretty well. Even little things like the over-the-top animation when you shoot someone seems to make it more brutal than past games
>>345042643
holy shit based Ivan
Shoulda given that man a medal and free shit for life
Ace of Spades
>>345042774
>Petrov himself states he was initially praised by Votintsev and was promised a reward,[6][9] but recalls that he was also reprimanded for improper filing of paperwork with the pretext he had not described the incident in the military diary.[9][10]
Even when you win, you lose
>>345042774
wasn't there also a false alarm where one of the two thought a flock of geese or ducks or some shit were a swarm of missiles?
>>345042810
>failing to take opportunity to destroy capitalist pigs
>reward
>Ivanov, is not be like you thinking it is
>>345042810
The world was also apparently almost wiped out when people modified some bacteria to breakdown dead plants into ethanol. It was ready to ship before someone else decided to check it out and found out it also broke down living plants.
>>345035512
Holocaust-it Hitler
>>345036201
This
>>345043401
anyone got a link to the story?
>>345037784
God forbid the Hitlers sue Paradox
>>345043293
You think thats bad? From 1962 until 1977, the combination to fire the US's nukes was literally 00000000.
>>345043621
Nobody would ever guess that AND it's easy to punch in when you're panicked for your life!
>>345043621
>the combination to fire the US's nukes was literally 00000000
This can't be even remotely serious.
>>345043543
http://organics.org/the-time-gmos-almost-ended-the-world/
Here is one anyway. I am slightly dubious as to how true it is but you never know.
>>345043783
The fact that you can't believe it is what makes it a good password.
>>345037784
There are no swastikas in HOI4
There is a mod that changes the German flag to the NSDAP flag but by default the flag just has an iron cross and no swastika
>>345043621
Well I'm sure the room holding the pin pad for this was superbly secure, yes?
>>345043783
Google it.
>>345043887
>There are no swastikas in HOI4
Well if that isn't just the most Swedish thing I've heard today.
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