http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/
Awww yiss /v/! Fucking Beastmen coming out for the best Total War ever made!
Can't wait to be a stinking Goatman and pillaging the Empire!
Seems they are a mix of Chaos and Orkz.
They use Hordes like Chaos and when they fight and pillage enough they summon AI armies like the Orkz.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1ZsQAISeM
>>345003098
Do DLC factions still appear in the campaign even if you don't buy them?
I don't want to have to buy DLC packs just to fight Chaos and Beastmen.
>still no elves or Lizardmen
>>345004101
Chaos definitely does, I can't vouch for Beastmen!
>best Total War ever made
>>345004186
>first dlc announced
>complains that it's not 4 separate factions
>>345003098
Holy shit I'm hyped. I thought Bretonnia was the next race to come out though.
That price though...
>>345004628
It's just another poor man's Chaos with even less units than Bretonnia.
>>345003098
Beastmen, why? They should be part of the chaos roster, should they not?
Had really expected something different..
Not one fucking drop of blood in the trailer. Made me cringe
>>345004725
Seriously am I gonna have to pay 20 bucks for each race? Ridiculous
>>345003098
Bretonnia must be like 95% done what the fuck are they playing at
>No harpies
>No ghorgon
>No info on regular lords
>No Jabberslythe
Keeping modders at work as usual I see
>>345004393
cute
>>345004725
I was expecting something like 10 bucks at most for a race. 20 seems pretty fucking extra jewy.
>>345005029
You need the blood pack for that, $9.99
>>345003098
>Special Promotion 10% off save a fucking dollar
That being said I'm excited for more content. Game is so barebones as it is.
>>345003098
Daily reminder that seeing blood when characters die is paid DLC
>twenty fucking dollars for the worst warhammer race
>didn't even add any of the cool units like ghorgon jabberslythe or harpies
>20 bucks for a race
>$18 for a faction dlc
CA and Sega's greed knows no fucking bounds. Pure cancer. Good thing this game sucks dick and I'd rather just play any other TW game instead anyway.
Sad how the Total War series has become hype cash grab trash
>>345004918
I believe long, long time ago you could mix and match warriors, beastmen and demons but then GW for some reason made that not possible. Who knows why. There is no reason in the things GW does.
>Just 1 faction DLC
>18 dollars.....
Seriously?? What the fuck, this is Jewery to the fucking extreme... There are just too many factions in Warhammer to release them all one by one.
I honestly thought they were going to release the Wood Elves with Beastmen them being mortal enemies and all, and this game following the "this faction can only occupy the territory of this faction because they are sworn enemies".
>>345005616
>worst warhammer race
fight me nigga
>15bong bucks for a shitty meme race
>3bucks for blood and gore pack
buying this shit was a mistake. maybe I'll look again when skaven are finally released
>>345006042
Go fuck a goat
I hope nobody buys into that jew price. What the fuck were SEGA thinking? It's hard to believe that these guys also produced Alien Isolation which were a fantastic game.
>>345006010
If the pack had included two factions, I would have happily paid this price. But it looks like every single faction is going to be $20 separately. Fucking atrocious, definitely not getting any of it until a significant discount happens.
I'm going to wait I guess.
>>345006010
It will only be like 200 dollars until we'll have all the major factions in the setting. I hope that's not too much for you anon. You aren't poor or something, right?
>>345003098
Seen your weak shilling before. Go fuck a goat.
They'll still be in the campaign if you don't buy them
>>345006462
So is it like the older Total War games where you can just edit some text file and get all the factions?
>>345006268
>angry, drunken forest mutants
What's not to love?
I'm still probably gonna get it for new content but seriously, reusing the fucking doggos and giants when beastmen have other units that could have been added?
>>345005802
They broke them up so people would have to buy entire army to use beastmen or demons.
>>345006575
the questline shit probably makes that harder
>>345006578
Hopefully they will at least be added later like Blood Knights were to Vampire Counts.
>>345006575
Doesn't it have denuvo or something though?
>18.99
holy shit wtf are they gonna charge this much for all of them? and no season pass? holy shit fucking wow
>>345006831
I don't know, I'm just asking. I promised myself to never buy a Total War game ever again after Rome 2.
This game is garbage compared to every other TW anyway. Maybe instead of shitting out way overpriced DLC, they should make sieges fun, make it not look so fucking ugly, and fix all the dumbing down they've down.
>>345006831
denuvo only protects the exe
Official bretonnia when?
>>345006638
I mean yeah. That would make sense to an idiotie GW suit. What would actually make them more money is people having the option to play every chaos unit in their army thus buying a wider range of minis.
I'm glad DENUVO cracks are making progress.
>>345004918
No, Beastmen have nothing to do with Warriors and Daemons of Chaos. They are their own little faction who were once humans that were corrupted by Chaos, forgotten by the Chaos gods because they were looked on as insignificant and just another victim of the chaos taint, and because they shared a similarity they formed a tribal nation.
>>345003098
Is this game worth getting if you're a fan of the series of totalwar and have no idea about Warhammers lore?
beast dudes rock
Who gives a shit. As long as the Beastmen are still in game doesn't matter to me. They were always looked upon as the generic mobs of the Warhammer world where they are literally scattered all over the place where there are lush forests and woodlands, numerous, and you usually find small scouting packs so people just hunt them for sport. This will be like Warhammer Online all over again instead now I got an army to annihilate them with.
>no Kislev
>no Bretonnia
>no Elves
>no Lizardmen
>no Skaven
>NO FUCKING TOMB KINGS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
fuck
>>345008127
Hm, is it just me or do I just see a different version of our world map? Lot of it looks strikingly similar.
>>345008395
You'll get all that eventually. Its just gonna be one race at a time I guess. Kislev will probably be randomly added in at some point hopefully free.
>20$
kekekay
>>345008398
Yeah and it's intentional
>>345008531
Yeah I know, still don't like being jew'd out of every race though.
hit that mf sales button
>>345008398
>old world
>new world
>nippon
nope
>>345008398
Warhammer is a setting of our planet if it was set in a fantasy world.
This is the same for W40K where the setting takes place in the Milky Way.
Yeah, no thanks. I'll wait till the Christmas sale arrives.
>>345005212
probably going to do Beastmen and Wood Elves first so there can be something going on in their corner of the map
>>345009028
Any good sources where I can read up on warhammer lore? The warhammerfantasy wiki is coming along nicely but it seems to still pale in comparison to 40ks wiki. I'm curious on who lives in each of those regions of the map.
>>345004628
Bretonnia will probably be FreeDLC
>>345007629
Any idea how much % they're at?
>>345006575
No.
>>345008127
>Nippon
>>345008127
Wait a minute.
That map
I'm just waiting for the Tomb Kangz and the Kingdom of Araby where I can command a regiment of flying carpet mounters.
>>345006456
I never posted here about Warhammer before
>>345009380
Not sure if there's a %. They've gotten the new Tomb Raider to play without DRM active.
>>345003098
>best Total War ever made
>20$ for a race
>beastmen is dlc
lol i don't understand how can people defend this jewry
>>345009336
The last Warhammer Fantasy core rulebook, then the army books for factions you're interested in, then after that you can dive into the incoherent mess that is the rest of the lore pieces.
>>345003098
>Beastmen $19
>Wood Elves will probably also be a campaign pack, so $19
>Warriors of Chaos $8
>Demons probably also $8
>Chaos Dwarfs probably $19
>High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizards get their own expac, $60
>TK, Ogre Kingdoms, Skaven expac $60
>Bretonnia free
$316 for every major army, including the base game
Although looking it in this way does make the campaign pack pricing make a little more sense, since it's 3 races and 3 campaigns for slightly less than an expac
>CA went from selling the Greek Factions that include the Epirus, Spartans, and Athens in one DLC for RII:TW, to selling factions individually one by one for 20 fucking bucks!!
What comes next after this?
>>345011041
The second expansion is supposed to be focused on the different chaos gods or something
>>345011103
$100 base game with only one faction, the rest separately as $30 dlc packs, and a required subscription to even play.
>>345011103
One Warhammer faction provides more diversity and unique gameplay than the entirety of pretty much every culture pack.
In real life dudes from a certain area in a certain time period all tended to be very similar, and then their warriors tended to fit into the wider trends of 'sword guy' 'spear guy' bow guy' 'horse and spear guy' etc. instead of being completely off the rails with crazy shit unique to them and them alone.
>>345011325
I'm pretty sure the Tomb Kings/Ogre Kingdoms/Skaven expac is the next one, so Demons might be in that
or they'll do what they did with Warriors where they're in the game but not playable
>>345011509
We're not far from that
I think the reason for the high price is because every new faction requires new skeletons and animations. Even so, I'm not gonna fork out 20 euros for one race. I'll just wait for a sale and get it then.
>No skaven.
>No Tomb Lords.
>>345012129
>implying they won't put both off forever, because they've already got one undead faction, and skaven will have the most complex faction mechanics by far
>>345008127
I thought this map was a joke until I looked it up.
Nippon? Seriously? I didn't realize the Warhammer universe was created by weebs.
>>345012612
Nippon doesn't have an armybook.
>>345011647
That sounds like it'd make sense. It's just bolting land onto three sides of the map, so they don't have to worry about their severely underdeveloped naval content until Ulthuan and the New World forces them to do something.
Also that setup means that we might get fucking Chaos Dwarfs sooner rather than later, which would be pretty rad.
>>345003098
>tfw Denuvo
I don't want to buy something riddled with DRM
>>345007934
Eh, sort of. It's really fun and streamlined for a Total War game with a focus on clusterfuck battles over diplomacy and map painting. Buy it if you like the idea of a reborn human incarnation of god flying on a griffon smashing Orc's faces in with a giant warhammer. Other wise stick to the other games.
Uh isn't there supposed to be a free dlc faction? What happened to the "freelc" they were touting?
>>345012612
>Weebs
>literally nothing about the place except a name
>no lore, people or anything
Gee, I wonder. More like Tolkien and Euro-history otakus.
>>345012813
You don't notice that it's there though?
Honestly, it's a really fun game. You'd enjoy it if you like either Warhammer or Total War.
>>345012884
Free DLC is going to be the Bretonnia fix when they are already in the game.
>>345012884
That will probably be Bretonnia and Kislev
What is the best magic order and why is itBASEDGOLDMAGIC
Fucking little morons.
Its not like regular Total Wars. You have to build seperate skeletons for each race (including all the different species, like the Minotaurs)
Not to mention it comes with a new campaign.
NPC Beastmen were confirmed by CA to come for free for everyone.
>>345012684
It still feels jarringly out of theme to have Japan in a fantasy game based on European mythology. Look at the size of it too, it could be considered a small continent compared to real life Japan.
>>345013007
We know that Nippon has crazy fantasy ninjas who are the world's best stealth experts.
The Skaven Clan Eshin send all of their potential assassins there to be trained by the ninjas, which is pretty rad.
>>345003098
>poo poo
>pee pee
>two weeks till bestmen dlc
>>345003532
Is relic gonna make a dawn of war 3 or could we have a 40K total war game
>>345013419
Relic is making DoW3. Announced like two months ago
>Early access except you pay bank for updates
I feel like I've fucked up so bad. I should've thrown this into the fallout 4 closet waiting a year or 2 for the complete edition.
>>345013194
there's Aztec lizard people riding dinosaurs and Egyptian zombies with full army lists, and you think a single landmass named Nippon is jarring?
>>345013562
If you don't want to play as them you don't need them. Since Beastmen are a pretty underplayed faction even in tabletop, it makes sense to package them like this. Plus you get to fight them as enemies for free.
>>345013419
They are making a DoW3 and holy shit is it bad. It looks cartoony, and plays and feels like a MOBA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAy0N-lFGFc
CA or Games Workshop needs to get their fucking shit together, and fast. All I'm waiting for now is that new W40K game where you can play as a Marine Chaplain wielding holy magic.
>>345013827
CA has no involvement with Dawn of War.
Considering Total War Warhammer is the best recieved Total War game since Shogun 2, I feel there doing a pretty good job with the IP.
>>345013610
There's also the Kingdoms of Ind, which are home to Tiger-beastmen called the 'Bengal' who come from a giant cave called the 'Eye of the Tiger' which also contains the 'lost Stone of Simba'.
Taking anything in the East of the Warhammer world seriously is a silly idea.
>>345013827
Chaplains don't have magic
>>345013827
>a Marine Chaplain wielding holy magic
Man, that's a lot of fluff failures in such a small snippet of words.
>>345013827
>tfw no Steel Legion game
>>345013610
Just having it there and calling it Nippon without integrating it into Warhammer like the Lizardman and Tomb Kings is the worst part. It's just saying
>"Look, here's Japan. Isn't it sugoi!"
I asked in the other thread but it died a little too quick on me:
I just bought this game, and am already dreaming of a world cleansed of the lesser races. Is it possible to keep playing after I emerge victorious in my campaign?
>>345015292
Yep. I haven't invested enough time in my campaigns to wipe out everyone, but you can keep playing after meeting all of your long campaign goals.
>>345015213
With the ridiculous amount of emphasis that you're placing on what is essentially a name on a map just because it's Japan makes me think that you're the weeb here mate.
If the creators ever gave a shit about their fantasy Japan it would have far, far more fluff than 'it exists, Samurai are there but nobody's allowed in so who even knows?' written for it over the three decades it's existed for.
>>345006236
It's been £3 for the blood DLC on every game since Rome II
>people are going to pay almost twenty dollary-doos for one faction
would you all stop being enablers to this horseshit?
please?
just once have some restraint or the willingness to pirate something thats a ripoff anyway?
>>345013134
Woah there, you misspelled Shadow, my dear friend.
>>345015908
Some of us aren't entitled little fucks who think were obligated to get every game for free.
>It's 20 bucks just for beastmen
Did you look at the steam page? There is a now campaign map that comes with the new faction. It's basically a faction DLC and a campaign dlc bundled together.
>>345015908
God, you sound fucking pathetic. Like those "I can't even..!" people.
>>345015589
Then the Empire will span the world!
>>345013134
Great Maw
>>345015908
The game isn't that bad, Its actually a good game with a lot of diversity this time that hasn't been shown before in another TW, but no way in hell am I playing this fucking much for a faction. I would have been okay with 10, but jesus...
You can almost hear the Jews cackling at a distance.
No.
I'm not paying for the same game 10 times over to get the full game.
>>345016170
This, reminds me of Caesar in Gaul for Rome 2 which cost around the same amount
>>345003098
>best total war ever made
It plays almost nothing like total war, the way the units work now feels more like mark of chaos or some squad based RTS games.
>>345005131
>>345009352
its the new race and a new mini campaign like ceaser in Gaul or charlamange.
>>345004531
It's fucking close.
Campaign and battles are well polished, it's easily the least buggy release and it's actually managed to pull off the Warhammer universe well.
I'd put it up there with FOTS and Medieval 2
>>345016539
Yes it does, are you retarded? The only thing that's removed is toggling formations and that's because GW won't allow CA to do things that aren't in the rulebooks.
>>345016323
Are there any games where I can use gut magic by cannibilizing/feasting/consuming on the guts and organs of my enemies to invoke the magical properties/powers of that race. Trolls grant you regenerative health, grinding on teeth grant you stronger bones and durable skin.
Fuck, I really want Ogres. Still my biggest collected army.
>>345015908
Too late.
>>345016861
Ogre's are my second favorite. Chaos Dwarves, being Babylonian slave masters. with daemonic bulls, and evil siege engines are still better. Still when both those races come out, I will be a very happy man.
Why goatmen before the Skaven empire?
>>345009336
Check out a Youtuber called Surrealbeliefs, he's doing a bunch of pretty good lore vids for a few factions right now
>>345017093
Easier to implement + Bretonnia needs more enemies.
>>345017040
>chaos dwarves
Literally the only faction they won't do. You have to make do with working the hellcannon.
>>345017093
I think to properly portray the Skaven and the undercaverns in which they dwell which spans throughout the entire fucking planet, you need the whole map to be released first.
Lizardmen eventually pls
>>345015740
At least one person thought it would be a good idea to have it there simply for the sake of having it. Clearly someone gave enough of a shit about it to put it in even if they couldn't mesh it with the rest of the universe's theme.
It's not a "ridiculous amount of emphasis" to simply take note of it and criticize it.
>>345013040
Hasn't Radious already modded a pretty balanced Brettonia in? (minus quests)
>>345005497
Oh god it is $3 stop freaking out
>EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE FUCK BUSINESS MAN
t. basement dwellers of /v/
>>345017675
>even if they couldn't mesh it with the rest of the universe's theme
You are one dense motherfucker, you know that? Do you not realise that the East of the Warhammer world is filled with Eastern cultures, just like the West is filled with Western cultures and the New World is filled with Aztecs? And that the Tomb Kings and Araby exist as well?
You're getting so massively hung up on the fact that the 'European' factions are the centre of the setting that you're ignoring everything else that shares that setting with them.
>>345017710
Radious mods make the game way too easy to play and break the balance.
>>345015908
The faction isn't even that unique.
They mixed the traits from the Ork's Waaagh and the Chaos factions nomadic nature to define the Beastmen. Slap a reskin on the giant to top it off and you have yourself a twenty dollar piece of DLC.
>>345017710
God no. Empire of Sigmar, plus Dismounted Foot Knights is way better fir a balanced rooster for the Brets.
>>345006010
I'm not surprised since they released chaos as a pre order dlc. You know, one of the main things about warhammer. Also
>4 F A C T I O N S
>>345017710
>Radious
Friendly reminder that the total cost of this game will be $300+ at the rate they're going.
Should I feel horrible shame at getting my ass destroyed on "Normal" difficulty?
I swear I used to be pretty good at these games, but the AI is pounding my anus apart.
>>345017710
Radious is cancer. They destroy the point of TW
>>345018670
Get the home movement +10% mod on Steam. So you don't have to chase small stacks around the map forever.
>>345018668
And it'll be worth it
>>345017267
They've already been leaked as a late DLC faggu~, likely one of the last ones along with ogres and skaven.
every other faction except for the smaller human ones like kislev/tilea have been leaked as well.
>>345017967
>defending 20 dollars for a faction
I remember back when small content packs like this were free.
you should be ashamed of supporting these jews
>>345019024
I just might. I swear to God they sneak up on me and my defense just can't hold it because my main army's off trying to advance the campaign.
Does "Easy" make the game insultingly easy?
This series has taken leaps and strides in terms of AI since my last conquest in Medieval 1.
>>345003098
>game has been out for like 2 months
>already has 15 dollar DLC
This is honest to God shaping up to be my dream game. CA can name their price and see it paid.
>>345019178
>small content pack
>it includes an entire campaign
Holy fuck how do you people even manage to breathe?
FOURTEEN BONGS for a race, fugging hell, I dont give a fuck bout their shitty campaign
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>>345019228
Have tried ambushing them?
I don't know why everyone's bashing the campaigns so much. I love the feeling of history in the making they provide.
>>345019407
Your point being? Its not like the campaigns are super involved.
>>345019407
how much does Creative Assembly pay you? Be honest.
>>345019228
Yeah, just stick to normal. Trust me, that home movement bonus makes the game so much more bearable, unless of course you decide to play as Chaos. Then it just becomes painful as everyone else has a bonus except for yourself.
Maybe try a different race? Dwarves and Vamps have comfy starting areas. Empire starts fucked.
>>345019178
Holy shit. Just look at the Steam page. The DLC contains a new campaign map. So it's just like a mini campaign which were also sold for Medieval II 10 years ago.
>>345019492
This might be a dumb question, but how is that different from just attacking them?
Back in my day there was no such thing as an "ambush".
It's not a small content release. I'd say this is half of a 2004-era expansion pack that retailed for $50.
>>345019571
Yeah maybe that was my mistake. I came into the game ready to defend humanity and find myself raped on every side by turn 5. Fuck, calm down guys, we all want a united Empire but can't we be civil about this?
>>345019024
Tfw i had to chase a orc stack with my dorfs for 25 turns.
>>345019657
I wouldn't say half, maybe a quarter or a third at best.
>>345019178
False equivalency anon. The costs of those updates are probably nothing compared to what content costs today.
>>345019605
It's a stance that allows you to hide your army either to ambush enemies army if they walk to you during their turn or to get close undetected
>>345019657
Its a minute content release.
In 2004 xpac era this would not get released. They would have included at least 2 races, and new units for all theold ones. And then price it for around 40$
>>345017967
Yes! You tell them anon!
I'll be seeing you when you're reading to hand in those 300 dollars after all of this is done because you are a productive working man.
>>345019964
Why the hell didn't you use ambush? I've heard this multiple times but using ambush as long as it works usually makes the AI turn around and charge back putting them in range if not running right into you.
>>345020003
S-stances? I should really play the tutorial.
I'm starting to think this game has evolved a little too much for me to jump right in like I own the place.
>>345020195
Ambush never seems to work with me. My army always seems to be found the next turn.
>>345020195
>tfw ambushing Archaon with three full empire army
>>345019326
as a life long wfb fag i fully expected to get raped by sega and gw.
15€ for beastmen is LESS than i thought it would be.
>>345020336
It has a 50% success rate. As long as you don't give up after one or two tries you should be having success.
>>345020195
Only had ambush work for me once. The way your army is set up totally destroyed my tactic, altough you do get so much advantage that you crush everything anyway.
But yea, i always either get detected, or they fuck off barelly out of range.
>>345019708
You have to butter them up. At least one faction, usually Talabecland, will start as buds with you, and should be open to confederation after a few turns. Marienburg is the faction to conquer first, since nobody likes them and their port gives huge cash.
>>345020474I for one welcome this price.
>>345020291
It's a button close to your lord portraits on the bottom left you have 4 or five different one
>>345020509
What? I thought it varied on terrain? I swear I've seen it drop as low as 20%.
>>345020353
>tfw assassinating Archaon
oops
>>345018668
You're not wrong, but for the amount of content it would deliver I'm more than fine with paying for it. After all most of the factions will have to be paid for through Expansions, which will probably be 40 or maybe even 60 dollars. They're gonna do 2 of those over the next however many years it takes to bring literally all the major factions into the game + major DLC like the Goatmen and freelc like extra Lords and units
Why exactly does no one like Radious? It just looks like more free content to me.
>>345020509
>30% assassination chance
>fail 5 turns in a row
>enemy gets 4 critical successes in a row
>install mod that prevents agents from dicking around
That was on my heroes and agents built specifically for surviving assassinations and counterassassinating.
>no ghorgon, jabberslythe, or harpies
>reused giant, chaos spawn and warhounds
I was interested before finding this out. They left their most interesting units out in favor of reused assets (giant over ghorgon especially). Probably not going to buy this.
>>345020593
Oh neat, I'll look into that! Thanks!
>>345020595
Oh I did not know that. I think your right.
>>345020580
15€ for wood elves? or Dark Elves?
fucking yes please.
>>345018159
It's a near non-entity in the Warhammer universe sharing a different name for Japan. It felt like they placed Japan into Warhammer with no creative changes implemented and I got hung up on that. The place is supposed to be a mystery and I can't make any assumption on what the creators meant it to be other than a mysterious place with Japan used as an inspiration.
You were right, I was wrong. Sorry.
>>345020690
My first game ever I couldn't poke my head out from a keep or I would get instantly assasinated/wounded by a million goblin heroes on spiders. Installed the mod after I somehow made it through that game because I don't want to ever deal with that bullshit again.
>>345020690
Sounds like their heros were way higher level than yours. It gets really painful if you don't spend time/money leveling them up.
>>345020684
Bloats the economy by increasing trade and tax values and shrinks the upkeep values. Essentially after 5 turns, there are a half dozen full stacks roaming aroudn the map. It completely destroys the economic aspects of maintaining a military.
>Wew lad, a full stack of 20 demigriffs
So disregarding this debacle, is the game actually good? I keep seeing people say it's dumbed down which is pretty bad considering vanilla total war is bottom of the barrel in the first place.
I also keep hearing the new things they actually do like the quest chains don't even work properly. I remember someone saying if you're on harder difficulties you have to devote so much time to travel halfway across the map for like 1 quest then travel all the way back, leaving your territories exposed isn't worth it. I also hear there isn't enough income to have more than a few armies at once and it barely changes despite all the new land you get.
I really liked Attila and hated Rome 2 which sounds odd, but I'm not sure if I'd like this game despite loving Warhammer. Campaign map sounds especially dumbed down and battle map just sounds like rushing because the fighting is too fast. I didn't even mind how fast Attila was.
>>345004608
>game dosent have all races to begin with
you guys buying these dlc's are what makes modern games shit
>>345020986
The last 2 heroes he assassinated, were a lvl 24 grudgebearer and a lvl 21 random hero. With his lvl fucking 8 agents. That pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back, because it was either complete rng bullshit, or some bug to give them such insane rng.
>>345020926
You gotta have your own heroes to counter theirs. You can have 3 of each type if I remember correctly with one of the types having bonus skill for assassination.
>>345021056
>I also keep hearing the new things they actually do like the quest chains don't even work properly. I remember someone saying if you're on harder difficulties you have to devote so much time to travel halfway across the map for like 1 quest then travel all the way back, leaving your territories exposed isn't worth it.
Yeah but for 5000 gold you can teleport instantly to the battle and back again.
I'd say around 5 full stacks is the most i've had as the empire. They weren't just bottom of the barrel cannon fodder either.
Yeah a lot of small things have been removed but the game is still challenging during battles. Don't expect shield walls or phalanx formations to be an option. All of that has been removed but the micromanaging of spells has become very important.
>>345021056
You can teleport to the quest location instantly
>>345020509
Ambush chance depends on the terrain
>>345018287
Is that the Rome mod
Christ
>>345021056
All of your "hurr i hurd this" remarks are completely wrong. Why not do 5 minutes worth of research into the game instead of asking retarded and illfounded questions on /v/?
>>345021389
Whoa how do you do that? Shit I ran all the way across the map for the last vampire campaign quest for Mannfred.
>wait until "complete" edition + sale for what isn't include
>get game without being jewed too hard
>>345021439
This is another nitpick i have with the game.
Is it possible to show what terrain is where? Just going by the visual representation is extremely missleading from my experience.
>>345021290
I had a Thane and an Engineer assigned with the Thane fully specced into reducing enemy hero success chance on my legendary lord. The problem was that there were no enemies anywhere nearby so I couldn't level any more heroes while every other faction had level 20 something heroes running about assasinating anything I sent out, so I could only ever have one stack running around. That system is shit. But the deploying and attacking / stealing from settlements or wounding armies is cool though.
>>345021496
Gee i dunno man, try clicking the quest in the quests section and click the (recently increased) fucking massive teleport button.
>>345021056
Anon the income for more armies thing keeps you from getting too powerful so even late game your AI enemies can still be a credible threat. Total War has had that problem in their past games where you become too powerful and everything is trivial.
>>345021703
Also random fucking full stacks of orcs popping up even after i completely wiped them out.
>>345021459
Not him, but gathering anecdotal information from forums isn't a terrible way to gather information. If you don't want to waste your time with his questions just ignore him.
>>345019450
That's where I am. I don't have time anymore to play single player campaigns so I end up bro-oping them. And these usually end up being 1v1 campaigns so it serves me no good.
I'll pass until a sale. I only got Blood because I had some steam funny money on my account. Not paying 1/3 of release price for one race.
>>345021056
I haven't run into any quest chain problems. 137 hours into the game so far.
>>345021496
It's a button on the summary screen. It wasn't super obvious at first so they made it bigger in the Blood Knights patch.
>>345021590
I mean... you can see it on the campaign map. It's not like it's an entirely grey swathe of land. You can also see your ambush success chance, I think either by holding the cursor over a bit of terrain or on the ambush stance button itself.
>>345021590
I believe you mouse hover over the terrain with an army selected and it will tell you the terrain type and ambush chance
>>345021187
Are you using mods?
Try this one http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693592647
And the other one in the description. Since playing with them and the latest patch, I've had a lot less of that bullshit happening in my games.
>>345003098
Wake me when Bretonnians are available.
>>345021056
yes the game is actually good.
the game is simplified. like you dont have to give a shit about food or sanitation which works pretty well here i think.
magic and monsters bring a lot to the game.
sieges are terrible.
>>345021921
Yea, but atm im just using the mod that prevents the enemy from using agents, but to make it fair i also dont use them.
>>345021781
You talking about rebellions? Those get nasty fast if you don't deal with them immediately.
All the DLC complainers: you can pirate the DLC
>>345022280
how about you pay for your games you underage faggot
>>345021379
>>345021389
Oh, thanks. The first I've heard of the teleporting and I was watching streams the couple of days before and after it was released. I guess it will be fun as long as battles are still fun and its not a curbstomp.
>>345021459
Because there isn't a place I can ask how the economy is going to work in the late game and get a straight answer, and its better here than in the steam forums or TWcenter or whatever. Good things those "remarks" are actually concerns I had that I wanted challenged or disproven in the first place.
>>345022030
Thanks and the sieges were the last thing that worried me. What's exactly wrong with them if I might ask? Towns looks pretty simple for one.
>>345022250
Nope, not rebelions. Just a random stack in the middle of my +100 happyness lands popping up, farthest away from 3 of my army stacks.
Probably so the game does not become too easy after completely wiping out the orcs because it said something about new orcs falling in from who knows where. But its still annoying to keep having to chase new stacks that randomly pop up and do nothing but pillage around.
>>345022515
Is it a WAAAGH?
>>345022023
have a nice sleep then
>>345022023
>muh maiden
>>345022515
The latest patch gave savage Orc tribes the ability to respawn as horde factions in random places.
>>345022569
Nope, i killed off literally all orc tribes.
>>345022698
That could be it. As they randomly appear after every so many turns, and i have completely taken over all orc lands,
So I've been thinking about getting this game because the sound of artillery fire makes my dick hard and the dwarves look to have that in spades.
How is AoE-damage in this game? Can it friendly-fire? Does half my artillery become useless when my troops are in melee?
Also based on what I've sen on the Tube, snow seems to be very hard to see through in battle. Is it possible to turn down/mod down the weather effects a little?
>>345005212
I don't know much about WH. How exactly would Bretonnia differ from The Empire human army that we already have?
>>345022440
You can't flank the city. The city is just a long wall and then a VP point behind it.
It doesn't very well at all.
the amount of wagecuck shills in this thread is demoralizing
having fun paying $20 for unfinished DLC cucks
>>345022832
>How is AoE-damage in this game? Can it friendly-fire? Does half my artillery become useless when my troops are in melee?
Yes you can kill your own troops but if you position your artillery right you can easily hit enemies even in close combat with your troops. Well maybe not with rockets but with cannon or organ guns you can do that. Especially if you manually aim.
>>345022832
I think you're better off with Empire for your artillery boner.
What Dwarves have over Empire is that their ranged units function well in melee, but they are slow.
Empire has cavalry but their missile infantry is completely fucked in melee.
If you want to turtle, go Dwarf. If you want good ranged units and artillery but also want an army that can move about, go Empire
>>345023009
we have been raped for years by games workshop. 20 bucks for some dlc is a steal for us
>>345022832
>How is AoE-damage in this game?
Depends on the unit. Most magic AoE is either hard to use(Vortexes) or kinda mediocre (Magic Bombardments). Most siege AoE ranges from pretty okay for the price (mortars) to quite powerful. (Hellstorm rockets, most dwarf artillery.)
>Can it friendly fire
Yes.
>Does half my artillery become useless when my troops are in melee?
Kind of. Depends how tolerant the situation lets you be of friendly fire and whether or not the enemy army has ranged/reserve units.Dwarf flame cannons are useless, don't bother with them. Organ guns and their various other cannons are much better.
>>345023219
The sad part is I get an entire campaign and completely unique race/army for twenty bucks, compared to a single model.
Love CA. Fuck GW
>>345022851
Knights, knights, dirty peasant scum, and flying knights
>>345023112
>manual aim
Fucking sold.
>everyone wants elves instead
Every time. For once we actually get beastmen and everyone just wants more faggot elves.
>Muh brown orcs
>Muh we already have chaos
Beastmen are cooler than both get fucked
>>345023583
honestly though if you want to fap to artillery you might want to check out fall of the samurai. or napoleon.
both of those games got great arty play.
>>345023483
exactly! i spent 300€ on 40k last month.
and my army isnt even finished! fuck!
>>345006578
That was a cygor but I understand what you meant, it's probably a reason when we could have gotten a nice ghorgon instead.
>>345006010
I want to fuck a wood elf.
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
DLC 1 - Chaos Warriors
DLC 2 - Blood
DLC 3 - Beastmen
So far so good....
Also pic related for free DLCs, we already got Blood Knights and are getting Amber Wizard and Lore of Beasts. Bretonnia is later in that line, after two Legendary Lords and another Hero and Magic Lore (probably another Empire Wizard).
>>345024101
elves are good breeding material
>>345024268
was it confirmed the orc lord will be wurzag?
>>345024268
Holy shit are we getting fucking Ogres, Tomb Kings AND Skaven before the first expansion pack? Or is some of the DLC sprinkled between the expansions?
>>345024063
Chaos Giant: T5 monster, armour piercing
Abilities: Resilience, Causes Fear, Causes Terror
Check their unit list fampai
>>345022851
The Empire is Holy Roman Empire with steam, magic and griffons.
Bretonnia is medieval France and England with knights, ladies and peasants, also King Arthur.
>>345024468
Oh ok I wasnt aware of that. I mean, chaos giants are actually in the beastmen army, but yeah reskins are annoying.
>>345003098
I don't get a thing: is the beastmen special campaign an additional map going more into details of a part of the drakwald or is it just a limited section of the grand campaign map.
where is the rest of the roster?
where are the normal chariots? the ghorgon? the jabberslythe?
how does the campaign make the cost inflate so much when the warriors pack was less than half for a bigger roster?
must admit this looks sexy tho, no homo
>>345024391
I believe it was.
Also there were datamined some files for Isabella, so she might be in. Or Vlad.
>>345024413
Ogres, Tomb Kings and Skaven will probably all be in the first expansion since they'll need to make the map bigger to fit them all in
>>345024391
yes
>>345024727
i guess thats cool but fuck i really want skarsnik.
>>345024727
>Vlad
Never ever
>>345024662
The cheap Chaos dlc was probably to try to deflate the hate they were getting for literal on disc dlc
The Beastmen special campaign is a section of the map from Reikland to Hockland. Whether that section of the map has been "enlarged" I do not know, but it seems like it's limited to more like a traditional RTS game campaign.
>>345024765
I suppose, though aren't the Skaven underground?
Beastmen are underrated. They are actually one of the Empire's most frequent, stalwart and implacable foes. Unlike the Chaos Warriors of the North, the Beastmen are always fighting the Empire at all times.
>>345023757
the poor goats have always received little attentions, fans, chaosfags, GW, even by their own gods
poor guys
>>345024468
They look fucking scary...
>>345024662
The map is a larger, more detailed Drakwald
>>345022945
Do Orcs near Nippon have katanas and samurai armor?
>>345022945
>fan made
>>345005131
No, only to less popular factions. For elfs, lizardmen and such you will need to pay at least 60 dollars.
>>345025084
Most of them, but it remains to be seen how they'll be implemented
>>345025141
>those trees behind them
pls, tell me this shit is a scenery piece in the middle of a map somewhere
17,49€.
This is the future you chose.
>>345025876
>Most of them, but it remains to be seen how they'll be implemented
>dwarfs have holds above the ground, special underway movement and scenarios in the underway
>beasts have special beast-paths movement and scenarios when intercepting an army there
want to bet that skaven will have cities visible above the ground and special tunnels movements with scenarios for fighting in them?
>Still no Bretonnia
WHY?
>>345026398
Its a combination of a race and campaign pack, of course it's expensive.
IF YOU BUY THIS YOU'RE A DUM DUM
>that price tag
>instead of beastmen monsters like ghorgon or jabberslythe you get reused chaos giant and spawns
kek, let the milking begin
>>345027041
>milking begins at goatmen
pottry
>>345003098
>they're STILL using ridiculous promo screenshots when no one can actually make the game look like that
They've really banked hard on that shit since Rome 2.
>>345027240
sorry, missed that "anew" at the end
>>345027426
Just using future graphics, goy!
Attila? What's that?
So are wood elves coming too or what? You can't have beastmen without wood elves, they're natural enemies.
>>345013238
Why in the FUCK would the Ninjas train fucking RAT PEOPLE and why would the RAT PEOPLE go to train with HUMANS???
>>345027426
Other than the posed units, the game does look like that though.
>>345027956
Literally every major faction will be in this game some 2 or 3 years down the line. A leak said Wood Elves was the next major DLC to be released
>>345027956
They're next. Problem is you can't really add some races they wouldn't make sense geographically. For example, Dark and High elves essentially need their own landmass.
Every time I sit down to play this game I end up playing it for 9 hours straight. Send help.
>>345028282
try this
>>345028201
Just make the map bigger and add a new land mass. They did it in ME2.
>>345013827
>feels like a MOBA
or you know, Warcraft 3? It looks like a good successor to Warcraft 3. Build up an army while scouting and fighting with your heroes
>>345028482
I think that's the plan because there will essentially be three games at the end, which probably means base and standalone expansions + other DLC, and they're advancing the timeline along the way.
>>345028482
>>345028201
>>345028793
Yeah anything that requires new land mass will be apart of the standalone expansion/game.
>>345013827
Have you played DoW2? It looks literally the same.
>>345028415
but anon, I only have one hole down there
>>345028872
>>345028793
>>345028482
They're adding 2 expansion packs / sequels to Total Warhammer besides all the DLC
>Beastmen
Where the fuck are the Elves?
Not even Wood Elves?
I want to get into tabletop Warhammer but I'm not familiar with the rules and I super don't have the money for models/paints and shit
What vidya will teach me the ropes so I can see if this is something I enjoy or not
>>345028282
I'd like that to happen to me. I could do that with most Total Wars and I'm into warhammer, but I just don't enjoy myself at all playing this and just stop.
>>345008127
>Beastmen are not allowed in Lustria
Why not? There are lots of trees
>>345029089
Don't bother. Warhams got the ax for Warhammer 40k 2.0.
>20 bucks for the worst race in Fantasy Batlle
>No Chaos Dwarves
>No elves of ANY kind
>Brettonnia STILL not finished.
>The balancing, oh god the balancing
>can still take multiple Steam Tanks in multiplayer
>Orcs actually got NERFED despite already being the worst race.
>still no reason to bring along cheaper units
>Dwarf fun shit is still terrible
>Empire still overpowered
>Ultra unit sizes still broken due to AoE and artillery not scaling to unit size.
>>345029089
Too late, it's dead. Play 40k instead if you really need to.
>>345021567
I'm sure you will remember buying that edition when it comes out in 5 years
>>345029575
There's still Kings of War and 9th Edition.
>>345029387
Lizardmen really, REALLY don't like chaos, and beastmen are creatures of chaos.
>>345029439
>>345029575
Well shit, I guess I can deal with 40k
Anything I should do to learn the rules? Been watching a few battles online in my spare time but a lot of the lingo escapes me
>>345029792
Get a pdf of the rulebook, read the basics, watch again
>>345029792
Read the rule book. You can find it online for nothing. Try to give GW too much money or they'll shit in your mouth.
>>345024101
S-stupid lumberfoot
>15 euros
>Chaos warriors was 8
>>345029959
>>345029981
Alright, thanks senpaitachi
Time for another money sink!
>>345029542
>>No Chaos Dwarves
Dream on, stunty
>>345030063
Go away racist >>>/pol/ Take your jew meme and Drumpf overlord with you
>>345030507
No need for any more (you)s, guys, I've got this
>>345030507
U not funny.
>>345028993
Elves will be the next paid race, their location already exists on the map. The providence just needs a makeover
>>345030507
Oy vey, this goyim is triggering me too!
We should contact my lawyer, this is a holocaust!
AI Empire is so fucked.
>>345016629
Noone bought those campaigns, so now they force you to buy both
>>345025141
Is that a reskinned giant? and they want 20 bucks for that?
>>345003098
I hope they show beastmen corruption since that evidently is a big thing. I wanna see changed landscape.
>>345030960
Thank you merchant. Truly you are our greatest ally.
>>345030417
Actually they already said Chaos Dwarves are goint to be included eventually.
>>345017796
even 1 cent for a fuckbasic thing like blood is a travesty.
This is the jewiest thing i have seen in the last 26 years
>>345032449
It'll be the same as the Chaos faction's corruption.
>>345032713
You must have lived those 26 years under a fucking rock.
Question, how cunning is the AI on diplomacy? If someone asks me to join their little war, and I do nothing, will they enrage?
>>345004186
>Lizardmen in the Old World
>wanting to play a garbage faction that hasn't been able to win a game in 20 years
And now with the Age of Sigmar they never ever will.
>>345013827
Gabriel's voice/dialogue bothers me more than it should
I love the attention to detail in this game.
>when you realize that the bricks the dwarven catapults launch have dwarven symbols on them
>>345004608
>first DLC
>skins, unit balance for 1 singular race
>15 dollars
neck yourself
>>345003098
>not tomb kings in the south to fix dwarf/orc boring as fuck playthroughs
total war campaigns are always gonna be shit
>>345035312
Tomb Kings would need a map expansion
Lizardmen WHEN
>>345032345
Nevermind all the other completely new models and all the animations for them, the Cygor, the Razorgors, the minotaur, the centaurs, and all those gors. Nope, you're paying 18 bucks for the reskinned giant only.$18 is a bit much but its not like the old Total Wars where you can just make the 1 set of animations then reuse them for all the units since they're all basically the same between factions.
What mods is /v/ running?
>>345035312
At least one of the Beastmen herds spawns in the badlands, so that should spice it up.
>>345003098
so obviously Kharaz is one of the LLs
who's the other one? Malagor? because an LL with immediate flying seems OP
![3776703-malekith.witch.king[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xi16Wp0.jpg "3776703-malekith.witch.king[1]")
>>345035620
After the glorious Dark Elves of course.
We'll see the true king on Ulthuan's throne yet.
>>345037312
The other LL is indeed Malagor. I don't think immediate flight for a single character is really that op, especially given the roster.
>>345035620
>>345037502they'll probably be in the same expansion
>>345037312
According to steam, it's Khazrak The One Eye and Malagor The Dark Omen.
Wings clearly visible.
>>345037108
If it's anything like that chaos faction that invades the south when Archaon spawns it isn't shit really. Having another full fledged faction down there like the TK would make things more interestingthough they'll probably be one of the last factions added since they were apparently always one of fantasy's worst sellers.
>>345037594
No way, they won't add in both Naggaroth, Ulthuan and Lustria at the same time.
Lustria seems like the last relevant continent they'd add anyway.
Araby, the Dark Lands and the Ogre Kingdoms all seems more likely.
>>345037847
so were Beastmen and yet here we areTK are probably in the second game
>>345037847
The chaos faction that spawns down there can't hide and isn't in constant ambush stance. It's also filled with garbage bin units.
>>345036959
>Resized Lords and Heroes
>Happines Matters
>Public Order Rebalanced
>Conquer Anywhere - Regional Occupation Removal
>Diplomatic Options - Vassal All Factions
>Maximum Level 60 for Generals
>Mousillon City Of The Damned vampire counts conversion /reskin
>Cataph_Chaos Steeds Resized
>Chaos Rifts spread Chaos Corruption (reduced effect)
>Ruins Spread Vampire Corruption
>Better Sieges
>Varied Generals - strict
>Cataph_The Southern Realms (TEB)
>Mannfred von Carstein edit
>Building Progression Icons
>Dwarven shields - Gold and Silver II
>Better State Shields
>Better Orc Shields
>Better Bretonnian Shields
>Chaos Warriors with Swords
>Better AI Recruitment and Army Composition
>Dynamic Combat: Battle Overhaul!
>Cataph_Lance Formation
>Variation Trolls Skin
>Less Blood, Less Gore!
>Black Armor Black Knights
>Blood Knight Reskin
>Ulric's Teutogen Guard
>>345037960
Beastmen does seem like a weird addition until you consider the fact that they are so easy to implement, they already live all over the old world.
Same thing with Wood Elves really which is why I expect them next.
>>345038059
I'm dead serious when I ask if it would not be easier to just take a screenshot of this?
>>345037941
well they're only going to expand the map in expansions, and they're not going to add Naggaroth or Lustria at the same time as Ogre Kingdoms, Araby, and Land of the Dead sooooooooooo
>Chaos warriors was 7e
>Beastmen are 18e
The fuck?!
>>345036959
30 unit armies with a larger garrison mod to compensate.
>>345038103
Wood Elves "confirmed" as next by the leak from datamining that's been 100% accurate so far
plus WE+Beastmen sets up for Bretonnia at the end of the year so there's stuff going on in that corner of the map
>>345038154
Nah, but they'll add Naggaroth and Ulthuan at the same time.
Then way down the line probably add Lustria at the same time as the Southlands, seeing how both are Lizardmen territories.
>>345038113
No because you would either have to make several screenshots or take a picture for ants.
>>345038315
you watch, anon
Second expansion is Tomb Kings, Ogre Kingdoms, and Skaven
Third is High Elves, Dark Elves, and Lizardmen
They add a new faction that was asked for a lot b4 the game came out and an entirely new campaign. 18$$ is a lot but you're getting a decent amount of content for it. Comparable to Caeser in Gaul
>>345038173
I guess it's because Beastmen come with their separate campaing, while Chaose were just added to vanilla campaing.
>>345038510
>10e for separate campaign
>>345038402
Oh they don't all fit in the screenshot? That makes sense.
>>345038661
>hippos can swim that fast
fug
>>345038661
And now I'm afraid of hippos. Thanks Anon.
>>345038770
>he wasn't afraid of hippos before
>>345038852
They should add hippos for beastmen.
>>345015908
I'm so sorry anon. The buyfags have become just too powerful.
It's all over, but the buying.
This is a very minor complaint but I really wish it wouldn't snow so intensely during winter-battles.
I'm guessing that no one else feels this way?
>>345039384
Maybe in Araby
>>345038509
There is no good argument in charging $18 for a new race.
>>345039687
It comes with a campaign, there's a ton of new models and it'll add even more flavor to the game.
Those are all valid reasons.
>>345039384
aren't there hippo Ushabti?
lol Beastmen is already on the best sellers list for today. Fucking morons who think it wont sell.
>Beastmen fightiness has a mutiny mechanic
I wonder if they are gonna patch that in for orcs when they add the dlc
>>345039935
CAMPAIGN???
2 OR 3 NEW PRESET HISTORICAL BATTLES?
AMAZIIIING!
>>345037579
>>345037649
>not Morghur
Too based for this game, I suppose.
$20 is a fucking joke. I love the game but there is no way in hell i'm picking this DLC up until its $10. I'm afraid to see what they charge going forward.
>>345040138
>implying it's just preset battles
>>345040138
Is this your first Total War?
>>345033645
>what is lustria
>>345040303
Yeah.
>>345040301
I wish you could skip them after the first time.
>>345040241
he'll probably get addedfor free when the Wood Elves campaign comes out
>>345040332
not in the Old World
>>345040301
What's with the moon on the money bar? Are they adding a day/night cycle?
>>345040332
Not in the Old World, you moron.
>>345040241
I just wanna see Slugtongue so I can advance deploy a bunch of ungors behind enemy lines then turn half of them into spawn
>>345040431
It's literally in screenshots from the op link
>>345003098
i want skaven tho!!!
>still no Tomb Kings
>still no elves
>still no Skaven
>still no Bretonnia
>still no Ogre Kingdoms
>still no Daemons of Chaos
>>345040592
>call a beast-moot
Fucking elves when CA? Am I not letting you jew me enough?
I swear they've stumbled upon a goldmine here.
>that price
Sweet Jesus. That is outrageous. Looks like I'll be waiting for the Thanksgiving or summer sale. Maybe Halloween.
>>345040835
Brets at the end of the year after Wood Elves
Everything else in expansions
Fuck knows how they're going to do Skaven
>>345013827
>cartoony
?? have you played the other DoW games at all??
>first dlc was chaos
>second was beastmen of chaos
>third is going to be daemons of chaos
>fourth is Chaos Dwarfs
calling it now
>>345041091
We already know third is Wood Elves and fourth is Bretonnia
>>345040835
>Tomb Kings Announced
>Comes with 3 different campaign packs for the First Nagash War, The Nehkharan/Vamp/Nagash 3 way, and Settras reconquering of Nehekhara and adds a ton of old world events based on pissing off Tomb Kings and relating to various wizards gathering Nagash's relics
>Costs $50
I'd still buy it
>>345040886
Wood Elves at the end of September
High and Dark Elves whenever the third game comes out
Greenskins need to have the following modded in or as freeLC;
Squig hoppers
Squig herders
Ball & chain gobbo fanatics
Skarsnik & Gobbla
More Squigs
Did I mention Squigs?
Where's my goddam Squigs?
I feel like this is going to potentially ruin the campaign map. Having to deal with endless Chaos and Varg hordes was tedious enough, but having hordes spawn right in the centre of the map that are pretty much invisible and constantly ambushing is going to be a huge pain in the ass. Especially when they can make the same fightiness-type hordes that the Orks can.
>>345041554
I bet you Skarsnik will be in a paid Lord pack that will add squigs
>>345022945
IRON
HEART
SURGE
>>345041091
I would literally buy them all.
>>345041554
Vamps got Blood Knights as FreeLC, so down the line I expect more units to be added.
>>345003098
>20 dollars
Atleast the best part of these expansions is usually even if you don't pay, you can fight against the factions on the map.
>>345042549
>FreeLC
This doesn't work in writing it just looks retarded, it's like the exact opposite of 3DShit.
>doing bretty good as VC
>fucking orcs take over the southern half of the map and now they're my problem
What now? Do I slowly and painstakingly wipe out the south with zero settlements to restore my dudes in?
>>345042549
>even if you don't pay, you can fight against the factions on the map.
This is confirmed to be the case here as well
>>345023009
Life is good. I can spend 20 of my earned domlaars on dlc wihout flipping my shit like some of you autists. Is 20 domlaars really life and death for so many of you basmentnecks?
>>345042762
It's almost certainly not worth it
Let them beat the dwarfs if they're not dead already and pick a spot to hold them back if they're going to attack.
>>345042762
dead
>>345040592
MOOOOOOT
>>345042762
Make then someone elses problem. If your economie's good enough, buy another faction to war for you.
>>345042926
My only problem with it is I don't care for the mini-campaign stuff. I'd rather have a cheaper option for no mini-campaign than paying that bloated cost.
I understand why they do it this way, like with the Blood packs, but I'll wait for a sale and get it cheaper.
>>345042762
Raise Dead
Will beastmen be the first natural ally of chaos? Would that make sense lorewise?
>>345044376
Kind of
They ally in End Times, but usually the actual Chaos faction thinks the Beastmen are beneath them
>no elves
I want to play people I can support and dwarves are depressingly the closest to a moral society. Kill me now.
>>345044376
>>345044631
chaos fight itself all the time, but i would personally say that beastmen certainly is more aligned with chaos than the norscan marauders south of the chaos wastes.
>>345003098
>TWENTY FUCKING EUROS FOR A FUCKING ORC RESKIN
LOL
I'm skipping
>>345044631
Aren't they somehow created by chaos energies though? Forgive the retard questions, I don't know much about their lore at all.
>>345006010
It comes with a campaign too, its like Caesar in Gaul/Last Roman or whatever, a couple of Empire provinces zoomed in.
>>345044736Wood Elves are the next factionthey're True Neutral
>>345044736
>elves
>moral
Oh Anon...
>>345044803
they were, but not intentionally
>>345044997
Isn't The Empire the closest to a moral faction in this setting? There far better then the counterpart, the Imperium, in 40k at least.
>>345006575
Its its own race so unlikely, because it will be reliant on its own skill tree and quest chain/gear. Also Chaos have several units that are still locked behind the paywall and the cpu doesn't get if you don't have the dlc.
>>345045213
Empire are pretty moral yeah. Bretonnia would be too if not for the fact peasants live in poverty and misery. Any man can make something of himself in the Empire.
>>345020185
well yeah I have a well paid and safe job. $17 is literally nothing to me
I spend more on lunch
>>345045213
i would much rather live in Estalia or Tilea than in the empire in warhammer fantasy if the history they are based on tells us anything.
>>345006575
No, now you just have to subscribe to a mod on the workshop. Shit got even easier.
>>345038770
hippos have always been dangerous
>>345018668
I've paid near that for Crusader Kings 2, I regret nothing.Am pirating till they fix conclave
>>345044736
>Warhammer elves
>moral
Even the high elves are assholes to the same degree as the dwarves.
>>345045213
Empire is moral but life there is absolutely miserable and the faction in general tears itself apart in civil wars/nasty shit constantly.
>>345046081
Every faction is a pile of dicks to themselves and eachother
>>345043469
Fair enough, good point
>>345046332
Dwarves and humans seems to have a semi-decentish relationship.
>>345040301
Can they ambush?
>>345045942
People complain about the total war DLC a lot but Crusader Kings 2 and EU4 seem to have a lot of low effort DLC in comparison
>>345021035
Oh no you get more money to have more armies...
>>345046628
Considering "development" of ck2 tends to be editing data files with notepad++ (confirmed by parajews) I agree completely. They also have a nasty habit of balancing a singleplayer game for multiplayer, which nobody but the autists in their offices play.
>>345046569
Their default stance is ambush
>>345046751
Might as well just download a cheat mod
>>345046761
Chaos horde gameplay prelightning strike is pretty terrible, I hope they add ambush to them as well.
Chasing tiny armies half the time and running from doomstacks is pathetic.
>>345047036
Beastmen have a unique movement ability to move through forests and hide in them.
>Still no fucking crack
Beastmen have the least amount of units of all the factions, and this is 1/3rd of the base price of the game
Not buying it till they update their shitty roster of units
>>345049080
Good. More sales to CA.
>>345003098
>Overpriced base game
>Day one non-cosmetic DLC
>Denuvo
If you support this, you are aids.
>>345050569
>overpriced base game
it's the same price as any other new AAA game though?
>>345003098
>have to pay for races
>have to pay for gore
FUCK
THAT
NOISE
GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK YOU FUCKING HOOKNOSED SHITS
>>345050770
You knew this would happen
>>345003098
>Being happy about paid DLC
>tfw beastmen player in tabletop
Almost worth suffering all those years.
>realising unfinished overpriced games is the new standard
What a time to be alive
>>345015213
>nippon gets cute shrine maiden heroes
So what's the deal with Bretonnia? Are they just an off brand empire or what?
>>345054947
>Grail Niggers
>>345055076
I don't know what that means. I'm ignorant of Fantasy lore.
>>345055205
Already been asked in this very thread but they are King Arthur, peasants, and dark ages type style.
>>345055410
Thank you.
>>345055205
But I'm sure you've heard of the Holy Grail type spiel. Bretonnia includes that.
>>345055205
They're based on medieval France and Arthurian legend, including ladies in lakes and questing for grails. Nobles are supercharged knights while their peasants are poor as fuck meat shields.
>>345055521
So their playstyle is calvary based?
>>345055902
Correct.
>>345055205
Bretonnia is Arthurian legend taken to 11. You have grail knights questing and doing daring heroics, only for them to die and peasants to fanatically defend their corpse and pretend to be the questing knights themselves. Their faith in the lady of the lake translates to immunity to bullets and cannon fire, and they have banned gunpowder in their kingdoms.
Compared to the superhuman nobility and magic damsels of the kingdom, the peasants are all like the peasants from the holy grail. Stupid, covered in shit, and completely illiterate. The whole kingdom runs as a sort of communist thing where the nobility takes 99% of everything the peasantry make.
Playstyle wise they have a very big emphasis on cavalry, have flying cavalry, trebuchets, and massive hordes of cannon fodder peasants.
>>345040838
who?
>>345053914
>>345050990
>>345050770
kill yourselves niggers, we don't care
>>345056123
They also had some groovy miniatures but unfortunately they got squatted.
>>345036959
Just the Home Region boost for now. I want the vassal everyone mods but I feel it would make the game super easy. 90% of the difficulty as vamps is you are dick waving range from Dwarves but war with them is mostly a financial black hole.
Have they relented on the hero spam that was going on at launch? There were enemy agents fucking up everything I was trying to do and there was no counter at all because there were fucking 50 heroes all over my shit at once.
>>345041091
>>345041161
Second was blood. Beastmen are third. Fourth is unknown. Fifth will be Wood Elves.
>>345057117
Kind of, with the last patch assassination/actions are harder to succeed. Their success chance was reduced.
>>345057420
Do I still need to deal with 40 fucking turd burglars trying to assassinate/hinder my leaders and towns every turn?
>>345004725
GW logic is you pay 20$ for fullset digital tabletop figure that can cost 1000$ in real life
then again their fanbase already has thick wallet so they dont give a fuck with your cry
>>345057546
Kek pretty much, I've never had this problem myself. I play on hard and make sure I level up heroes as much as I can. Shit I wish I could see all this trouble people claim they have with heroes. I mean I've never had something ridiculous like 40 heroes at once charge me but they do trickle in and I keep on top of trying to assassinate them at every opportunity. I could see something like this happening if people don't start leveling heroes as soon as you can and don't do much of anything as they start invading. You get a free hero for every faction fairly early and high chance of getting another one free later on.
>>345057591
>then again their fanbase already has thick wallet
Nigger if it wasn't for the chinaman and ebay nobody would play 40k.
Why the FUCK does Warhammer keep ripping off from Warcraft?
I'm reading this Bretonnia wiki page and it seems unworkable. Basically a merchant is paid in gold for goods, and has to declare it to his lord, and immediately trade it in for copper at usurious rates.
Their economy must be total shit.
reposting from /twg/
>$60 for the game
>$3 for blood
>$19 for another faction and a half-assed new map
Jesus fucking christ. I haven't even bought the blood pack because I got bored of the unpunished state of the game. I guess I'll get all of the DLC during the Christmas sale.
And fuck all of you who are buying it. It's 1/3 the cost of the fucking base game. That's bullshit and you all know it. Don't reward this behavior.
>>345059949
I'd buy it regardless of the 20 dollar price, if they had a full fledged roster. Look at what they have, they are missing so many unique Beastmen units. They have the smallest roster of the factions.
If they were executed well, they would have been worth the money.
That said, its Total War so even if you don't pay the 20 dollars for the faction they will still be added into the game to play against.
>>345059949
I enjoy good games and I don't mind paying for more. Go suck a cock poorfag
>>345059949
>reeeee dont buy content you actually want
I wipe my ass with 20 dollars. They could keep making mini campaigns and races ala Med 2: Kingdoms for years and I would be happy. Would love to play a throwback campaign to the age of sigmar with tons of quest battles.
>>345060139
>That said, its Total War so even if you don't pay the 20 dollars for the faction they will still be added into the game to play against.
So? They should be playable in the base game already. It's a full priced AAA game that came out like 2 months ago and they're charging a third of the price for ONE faction and a throwaway campaign.
You guys want to know why the industry is going to shit? Because companies are releasing shit games and expecting consumers to pay for them to finish it.
I've never played a total war game. Is the management aspect any good or is it all about the actual battles?
>>345060397
>So? They should be playable in the base game already.
The game has massive amounts of content at launch, and I got chaos for free. The game would have been in development for the next 2 years since the factions are completely different.
>>345060474
You definitely spend a lot of time on the strategy map building up your economy, but also playing cat and mouse with enemy armies. You get different stances (ambush, encamp, forced march, standard, and some very situational ones) and you can use them to lure, chase, and run from your enemies.
I kinda wish there were more battles, the AI legit tries to conquer your lands and avoid standing battles, but I guess thats what a good general would do.
>>345060621
>The game has massive amounts of content at launch, and I got chaos for free.
Alright there's no point in continuing talking to you if you're that easily impressed by such a bare-bones game. Enjoy the game though.
>>345060397
>It's a full priced AAA game that came out like 2 months ago and they're charging a third of the price for ONE faction and a throwaway campaign.
>I already spent my allowance on the game and my mommy won't give me any more to spend
>Because companies are releasing shit games and expecting consumers to pay for them to finish it.
That's Early Access.
>>345060397
>they should be playable in the base game already
Says fucking who? You? You paid 60 dollars for the 4 factions+Chaos if you got it on release date, not anything more.
>>345060757
Its as bare bones as any game post Napoleon. I hope there aren't any Shogun 2 fags in here who think that game has any unique playstyles or variety in units. That game has double the factions but a fifth of the content.
>>345060757
I do, and so do plenty of people. Its a great game. I hope they sell a 39.99 Ogre Wood Elf chaos dwarf and random man faction expansion. I'll be legit fucking sad when they are done with the DLC production.
>>345060936
You think that's something? I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
>>345061168
Are you implying that you bought Warhammer on false pretenses? That they somehow lied to you? You must be a delusional child.
>>345061168
>that's something? I've got a bridge to sell
Right now I'd go so far as to say its PC game of the year.
>>345003098
>18 smackers
I'm doing it for Beastmen, alone.
>>345061754
I wish that there were civilians in total war games. It would be great to cruise your beastmen into unprotected townships and brutalize.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRUTz3d4tLs
>>345061930
Do beastmen rape humans? This is important.
>>345061754
Don't. Their roster is shit. Play against them on the campaign map, then maybe buy them
For 20 dollars there is absolutely no way they should have such a small roster.
I am glad their legendary lords have unique starting positions, one in the far north and one in the far south in the Badlands
>the South of the map isn't just constantly Dwarf vs Greenskins
I hope they end up doing this for ALL the main factions, and not require a mod to do it. Especially down the line when every faction gets another legendary lord.
>>345061754
Good goy
They took the horde mechanics of Chaos and the Wahhh mechanic of Greenskins and are selling it for nearly $20 dollarydoos
I'm really starting to think this is a shill thread. Even fucking reddit smells the immense kikery here
>>345062025
>>345062037
I just hope they crack Denuvo by then, because I really do like Beastmen, but it still feels like I'm getting cheated big time.
>>345044736
Wood Elves are genocidal hippies, other races to them are like nasty cockroaches
High Elves are basically Hitler's aryans, again they give no fucks about other races tho they aren't genocidal like hippies
Dark Elves are ultimate edgelords, they got so bored sitting in not-north murrica now they have to eat babies to have fun
>>345062258
The older Denuvo titles might be cracked soon, but not the newer ones.
Beastmen are similar in roster size of Dwarves but I don't think they are worth 20 dollars even with a mini-campaign. I've never liked the idea of a scripted campaign in Total War.
>>345062010
yes
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