http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/
Awww yiss /v/! Fucking Beastmen coming out for the best Total War ever made!
Can't wait to be a stinking Goatman and pillaging the Empire!
Seems they are a mix of Chaos and Orkz.
They use Hordes like Chaos and when they fight and pillage enough they summon AI armies like the Orkz.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1ZsQAISeM
>>345003098
Do DLC factions still appear in the campaign even if you don't buy them?
I don't want to have to buy DLC packs just to fight Chaos and Beastmen.
>still no elves or Lizardmen
>>345004101
Chaos definitely does, I can't vouch for Beastmen!
>>345004257
>best Total War ever made
>>345004186
>first dlc announced
>complains that it's not 4 separate factions
>>345003098
Holy shit I'm hyped. I thought Bretonnia was the next race to come out though.
That price though...
>>345004628
It's just another poor man's Chaos with even less units than Bretonnia.
>>345003098
Beastmen, why? They should be part of the chaos roster, should they not?
Had really expected something different..
Not one fucking drop of blood in the trailer. Made me cringe
>>345004725
Seriously am I gonna have to pay 20 bucks for each race? Ridiculous
>>345003098
Bretonnia must be like 95% done what the fuck are they playing at
>No harpies
>No ghorgon
>No info on regular lords
>No Jabberslythe
Keeping modders at work as usual I see
>>345004393
cute
>>345004725
I was expecting something like 10 bucks at most for a race. 20 seems pretty fucking extra jewy.
>>345005029
You need the blood pack for that, $9.99
>>345003098
>Special Promotion 10% off save a fucking dollar
That being said I'm excited for more content. Game is so barebones as it is.
>>345003098
Daily reminder that seeing blood when characters die is paid DLC
>twenty fucking dollars for the worst warhammer race
>didn't even add any of the cool units like ghorgon jabberslythe or harpies
>20 bucks for a race
>$18 for a faction dlc
CA and Sega's greed knows no fucking bounds. Pure cancer. Good thing this game sucks dick and I'd rather just play any other TW game instead anyway.
Sad how the Total War series has become hype cash grab trash
>>345004918
I believe long, long time ago you could mix and match warriors, beastmen and demons but then GW for some reason made that not possible. Who knows why. There is no reason in the things GW does.
>Just 1 faction DLC
>18 dollars.....
Seriously?? What the fuck, this is Jewery to the fucking extreme... There are just too many factions in Warhammer to release them all one by one.
I honestly thought they were going to release the Wood Elves with Beastmen them being mortal enemies and all, and this game following the "this faction can only occupy the territory of this faction because they are sworn enemies".
>>345005616
>worst warhammer race
fight me nigga
>15bong bucks for a shitty meme race
>3bucks for blood and gore pack
buying this shit was a mistake. maybe I'll look again when skaven are finally released
>>345006042
Go fuck a goat
I hope nobody buys into that jew price. What the fuck were SEGA thinking? It's hard to believe that these guys also produced Alien Isolation which were a fantastic game.
>>345006010
If the pack had included two factions, I would have happily paid this price. But it looks like every single faction is going to be $20 separately. Fucking atrocious, definitely not getting any of it until a significant discount happens.
I'm going to wait I guess.
>>345006010
It will only be like 200 dollars until we'll have all the major factions in the setting. I hope that's not too much for you anon. You aren't poor or something, right?
>>345003098
Seen your weak shilling before. Go fuck a goat.
They'll still be in the campaign if you don't buy them
>>345006409
>>345006462
So is it like the older Total War games where you can just edit some text file and get all the factions?
>>345006268
>angry, drunken forest mutants
What's not to love?
I'm still probably gonna get it for new content but seriously, reusing the fucking doggos and giants when beastmen have other units that could have been added?
>>345005802
They broke them up so people would have to buy entire army to use beastmen or demons.
>>345006575
the questline shit probably makes that harder
>>345006578
Hopefully they will at least be added later like Blood Knights were to Vampire Counts.
>>345006575
Doesn't it have denuvo or something though?
>18.99
holy shit wtf are they gonna charge this much for all of them? and no season pass? holy shit fucking wow
>>345006831
I don't know, I'm just asking. I promised myself to never buy a Total War game ever again after Rome 2.
This game is garbage compared to every other TW anyway. Maybe instead of shitting out way overpriced DLC, they should make sieges fun, make it not look so fucking ugly, and fix all the dumbing down they've down.
>>345006831
denuvo only protects the exe
Official bretonnia when?
>>345006638
I mean yeah. That would make sense to an idiotie GW suit. What would actually make them more money is people having the option to play every chaos unit in their army thus buying a wider range of minis.
I'm glad DENUVO cracks are making progress.
>>345004918
No, Beastmen have nothing to do with Warriors and Daemons of Chaos. They are their own little faction who were once humans that were corrupted by Chaos, forgotten by the Chaos gods because they were looked on as insignificant and just another victim of the chaos taint, and because they shared a similarity they formed a tribal nation.
>>345003098
Is this game worth getting if you're a fan of the series of totalwar and have no idea about Warhammers lore?
beast dudes rock
Who gives a shit. As long as the Beastmen are still in game doesn't matter to me. They were always looked upon as the generic mobs of the Warhammer world where they are literally scattered all over the place where there are lush forests and woodlands, numerous, and you usually find small scouting packs so people just hunt them for sport. This will be like Warhammer Online all over again instead now I got an army to annihilate them with.
>no Kislev
>no Bretonnia
>no Elves
>no Lizardmen
>no Skaven
>NO FUCKING TOMB KINGS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
fuck
>>345008127
Hm, is it just me or do I just see a different version of our world map? Lot of it looks strikingly similar.
>>345008395
You'll get all that eventually. Its just gonna be one race at a time I guess. Kislev will probably be randomly added in at some point hopefully free.
>20$
kekekay
>>345008398
Yeah and it's intentional
>>345008531
Yeah I know, still don't like being jew'd out of every race though.
hit that mf sales button
>>345008398
>old world
>new world
>nippon
nope
>>345008398
Warhammer is a setting of our planet if it was set in a fantasy world.
This is the same for W40K where the setting takes place in the Milky Way.
Yeah, no thanks. I'll wait till the Christmas sale arrives.
>>345005212
probably going to do Beastmen and Wood Elves first so there can be something going on in their corner of the map
>>345009028
Any good sources where I can read up on warhammer lore? The warhammerfantasy wiki is coming along nicely but it seems to still pale in comparison to 40ks wiki. I'm curious on who lives in each of those regions of the map.
>>345004628
Bretonnia will probably be FreeDLC
>>345007629
Any idea how much % they're at?
>>345006575
No.
>>345008127
>Nippon
>>345008127
Wait a minute.
That map
I'm just waiting for the Tomb Kangz and the Kingdom of Araby where I can command a regiment of flying carpet mounters.
>>345006456
I never posted here about Warhammer before
>>345009380
Not sure if there's a %. They've gotten the new Tomb Raider to play without DRM active.
>>345003098
>best Total War ever made
>20$ for a race
>beastmen is dlc
lol i don't understand how can people defend this jewry
>>345009336
The last Warhammer Fantasy core rulebook, then the army books for factions you're interested in, then after that you can dive into the incoherent mess that is the rest of the lore pieces.
>>345003098
>Beastmen $19
>Wood Elves will probably also be a campaign pack, so $19
>Warriors of Chaos $8
>Demons probably also $8
>Chaos Dwarfs probably $19
>High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizards get their own expac, $60
>TK, Ogre Kingdoms, Skaven expac $60
>Bretonnia free
$316 for every major army, including the base game
Although looking it in this way does make the campaign pack pricing make a little more sense, since it's 3 races and 3 campaigns for slightly less than an expac
>CA went from selling the Greek Factions that include the Epirus, Spartans, and Athens in one DLC for RII:TW, to selling factions individually one by one for 20 fucking bucks!!
What comes next after this?
>>345011041
The second expansion is supposed to be focused on the different chaos gods or something
>>345011103
$100 base game with only one faction, the rest separately as $30 dlc packs, and a required subscription to even play.
>>345011103
One Warhammer faction provides more diversity and unique gameplay than the entirety of pretty much every culture pack.
In real life dudes from a certain area in a certain time period all tended to be very similar, and then their warriors tended to fit into the wider trends of 'sword guy' 'spear guy' bow guy' 'horse and spear guy' etc. instead of being completely off the rails with crazy shit unique to them and them alone.
>>345011325
I'm pretty sure the Tomb Kings/Ogre Kingdoms/Skaven expac is the next one, so Demons might be in that
or they'll do what they did with Warriors where they're in the game but not playable
>>345011509
We're not far from that
I think the reason for the high price is because every new faction requires new skeletons and animations. Even so, I'm not gonna fork out 20 euros for one race. I'll just wait for a sale and get it then.
>No skaven.
>No Tomb Lords.
>>345012129
>implying they won't put both off forever, because they've already got one undead faction, and skaven will have the most complex faction mechanics by far
>>345008127
I thought this map was a joke until I looked it up.
Nippon? Seriously? I didn't realize the Warhammer universe was created by weebs.
>>345012612
Nippon doesn't have an armybook.
>>345011647
That sounds like it'd make sense. It's just bolting land onto three sides of the map, so they don't have to worry about their severely underdeveloped naval content until Ulthuan and the New World forces them to do something.
Also that setup means that we might get fucking Chaos Dwarfs sooner rather than later, which would be pretty rad.
>>345003098
>tfw Denuvo
I don't want to buy something riddled with DRM
>>345007934
Eh, sort of. It's really fun and streamlined for a Total War game with a focus on clusterfuck battles over diplomacy and map painting. Buy it if you like the idea of a reborn human incarnation of god flying on a griffon smashing Orc's faces in with a giant warhammer. Other wise stick to the other games.
Uh isn't there supposed to be a free dlc faction? What happened to the "freelc" they were touting?
>>345012612
>Weebs
>literally nothing about the place except a name
>no lore, people or anything
Gee, I wonder. More like Tolkien and Euro-history otakus.
>>345012813
You don't notice that it's there though?
Honestly, it's a really fun game. You'd enjoy it if you like either Warhammer or Total War.
>>345012884
Free DLC is going to be the Bretonnia fix when they are already in the game.
>>345012884
That will probably be Bretonnia and Kislev
What is the best magic order and why is itBASEDGOLDMAGIC
Fucking little morons.
Its not like regular Total Wars. You have to build seperate skeletons for each race (including all the different species, like the Minotaurs)
Not to mention it comes with a new campaign.
NPC Beastmen were confirmed by CA to come for free for everyone.
>>345012684
It still feels jarringly out of theme to have Japan in a fantasy game based on European mythology. Look at the size of it too, it could be considered a small continent compared to real life Japan.
>>345013007
We know that Nippon has crazy fantasy ninjas who are the world's best stealth experts.
The Skaven Clan Eshin send all of their potential assassins there to be trained by the ninjas, which is pretty rad.
>>345003098
>poo poo
>pee pee
>two weeks till bestmen dlc
>>345003532
Is relic gonna make a dawn of war 3 or could we have a 40K total war game
>>345013419
Relic is making DoW3. Announced like two months ago
>Early access except you pay bank for updates
I feel like I've fucked up so bad. I should've thrown this into the fallout 4 closet waiting a year or 2 for the complete edition.
>>345013194
there's Aztec lizard people riding dinosaurs and Egyptian zombies with full army lists, and you think a single landmass named Nippon is jarring?
>>345013562
If you don't want to play as them you don't need them. Since Beastmen are a pretty underplayed faction even in tabletop, it makes sense to package them like this. Plus you get to fight them as enemies for free.
>>345013419
They are making a DoW3 and holy shit is it bad. It looks cartoony, and plays and feels like a MOBA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAy0N-lFGFc
CA or Games Workshop needs to get their fucking shit together, and fast. All I'm waiting for now is that new W40K game where you can play as a Marine Chaplain wielding holy magic.
>>345013827
CA has no involvement with Dawn of War.
Considering Total War Warhammer is the best recieved Total War game since Shogun 2, I feel there doing a pretty good job with the IP.
>>345013610
There's also the Kingdoms of Ind, which are home to Tiger-beastmen called the 'Bengal' who come from a giant cave called the 'Eye of the Tiger' which also contains the 'lost Stone of Simba'.
Taking anything in the East of the Warhammer world seriously is a silly idea.
>>345013827
Chaplains don't have magic
>>345013827
>a Marine Chaplain wielding holy magic
Man, that's a lot of fluff failures in such a small snippet of words.
>>345013827
>tfw no Steel Legion game
>>345013610
Just having it there and calling it Nippon without integrating it into Warhammer like the Lizardman and Tomb Kings is the worst part. It's just saying
>"Look, here's Japan. Isn't it sugoi!"
I asked in the other thread but it died a little too quick on me:
I just bought this game, and am already dreaming of a world cleansed of the lesser races. Is it possible to keep playing after I emerge victorious in my campaign?
>>345015292
Yep. I haven't invested enough time in my campaigns to wipe out everyone, but you can keep playing after meeting all of your long campaign goals.
>>345015213
With the ridiculous amount of emphasis that you're placing on what is essentially a name on a map just because it's Japan makes me think that you're the weeb here mate.
If the creators ever gave a shit about their fantasy Japan it would have far, far more fluff than 'it exists, Samurai are there but nobody's allowed in so who even knows?' written for it over the three decades it's existed for.
>>345006236
It's been £3 for the blood DLC on every game since Rome II
>people are going to pay almost twenty dollary-doos for one faction
would you all stop being enablers to this horseshit?
please?
just once have some restraint or the willingness to pirate something thats a ripoff anyway?
>>345013134
Woah there, you misspelled Shadow, my dear friend.
>>345015908
Some of us aren't entitled little fucks who think were obligated to get every game for free.
>It's 20 bucks just for beastmen
Did you look at the steam page? There is a now campaign map that comes with the new faction. It's basically a faction DLC and a campaign dlc bundled together.
>>345015908
God, you sound fucking pathetic. Like those "I can't even..!" people.
>>345015589
Then the Empire will span the world!
>>345013134
Great Maw
>>345015908
The game isn't that bad, Its actually a good game with a lot of diversity this time that hasn't been shown before in another TW, but no way in hell am I playing this fucking much for a faction. I would have been okay with 10, but jesus...
You can almost hear the Jews cackling at a distance.
No.
I'm not paying for the same game 10 times over to get the full game.
>>345016170
This, reminds me of Caesar in Gaul for Rome 2 which cost around the same amount
>>345003098
>best total war ever made
It plays almost nothing like total war, the way the units work now feels more like mark of chaos or some squad based RTS games.
>>345005131
>>345009352
its the new race and a new mini campaign like ceaser in Gaul or charlamange.
>>345004531
It's fucking close.
Campaign and battles are well polished, it's easily the least buggy release and it's actually managed to pull off the Warhammer universe well.
I'd put it up there with FOTS and Medieval 2
>>345016539
Yes it does, are you retarded? The only thing that's removed is toggling formations and that's because GW won't allow CA to do things that aren't in the rulebooks.
>>345016323
Are there any games where I can use gut magic by cannibilizing/feasting/consuming on the guts and organs of my enemies to invoke the magical properties/powers of that race. Trolls grant you regenerative health, grinding on teeth grant you stronger bones and durable skin.
Fuck, I really want Ogres. Still my biggest collected army.
>>345015908
Too late.
>>345016861
Ogre's are my second favorite. Chaos Dwarves, being Babylonian slave masters. with daemonic bulls, and evil siege engines are still better. Still when both those races come out, I will be a very happy man.
Why goatmen before the Skaven empire?
>>345009336
Check out a Youtuber called Surrealbeliefs, he's doing a bunch of pretty good lore vids for a few factions right now
>>345017093
Easier to implement + Bretonnia needs more enemies.
>>345017040
>chaos dwarves
Literally the only faction they won't do. You have to make do with working the hellcannon.
>>345017093
I think to properly portray the Skaven and the undercaverns in which they dwell which spans throughout the entire fucking planet, you need the whole map to be released first.
Lizardmen eventually pls
>>345015740
At least one person thought it would be a good idea to have it there simply for the sake of having it. Clearly someone gave enough of a shit about it to put it in even if they couldn't mesh it with the rest of the universe's theme.
It's not a "ridiculous amount of emphasis" to simply take note of it and criticize it.
>>345013040
Hasn't Radious already modded a pretty balanced Brettonia in? (minus quests)
>>345005497
Oh god it is $3 stop freaking out
>EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE FUCK BUSINESS MAN
t. basement dwellers of /v/
>>345017675
>even if they couldn't mesh it with the rest of the universe's theme
You are one dense motherfucker, you know that? Do you not realise that the East of the Warhammer world is filled with Eastern cultures, just like the West is filled with Western cultures and the New World is filled with Aztecs? And that the Tomb Kings and Araby exist as well?
You're getting so massively hung up on the fact that the 'European' factions are the centre of the setting that you're ignoring everything else that shares that setting with them.
>>345017710
Radious mods make the game way too easy to play and break the balance.
>>345015908
The faction isn't even that unique.
They mixed the traits from the Ork's Waaagh and the Chaos factions nomadic nature to define the Beastmen. Slap a reskin on the giant to top it off and you have yourself a twenty dollar piece of DLC.
>>345017710
God no. Empire of Sigmar, plus Dismounted Foot Knights is way better fir a balanced rooster for the Brets.
>>345006010
I'm not surprised since they released chaos as a pre order dlc. You know, one of the main things about warhammer. Also
>4 F A C T I O N S
>>345017710
>Radious
Friendly reminder that the total cost of this game will be $300+ at the rate they're going.
Should I feel horrible shame at getting my ass destroyed on "Normal" difficulty?
I swear I used to be pretty good at these games, but the AI is pounding my anus apart.
>>345017710
Radious is cancer. They destroy the point of TW
>>345018670
Get the home movement +10% mod on Steam. So you don't have to chase small stacks around the map forever.
>>345018668
And it'll be worth it
>>345017267
They've already been leaked as a late DLC faggu~, likely one of the last ones along with ogres and skaven.
every other faction except for the smaller human ones like kislev/tilea have been leaked as well.
>>345017967
>defending 20 dollars for a faction
I remember back when small content packs like this were free.
you should be ashamed of supporting these jews
>>345019024
I just might. I swear to God they sneak up on me and my defense just can't hold it because my main army's off trying to advance the campaign.
Does "Easy" make the game insultingly easy?
This series has taken leaps and strides in terms of AI since my last conquest in Medieval 1.
>>345003098
>game has been out for like 2 months
>already has 15 dollar DLC
This is honest to God shaping up to be my dream game. CA can name their price and see it paid.
>>345019178
>small content pack
>it includes an entire campaign
Holy fuck how do you people even manage to breathe?
FOURTEEN BONGS for a race, fugging hell, I dont give a fuck bout their shitty campaign
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>>345019228
Have tried ambushing them?
I don't know why everyone's bashing the campaigns so much. I love the feeling of history in the making they provide.
>>345019407
Your point being? Its not like the campaigns are super involved.
>>345019407
how much does Creative Assembly pay you? Be honest.
>>345019228
Yeah, just stick to normal. Trust me, that home movement bonus makes the game so much more bearable, unless of course you decide to play as Chaos. Then it just becomes painful as everyone else has a bonus except for yourself.
Maybe try a different race? Dwarves and Vamps have comfy starting areas. Empire starts fucked.
>>345019178
Holy shit. Just look at the Steam page. The DLC contains a new campaign map. So it's just like a mini campaign which were also sold for Medieval II 10 years ago.
>>345019492
This might be a dumb question, but how is that different from just attacking them?
Back in my day there was no such thing as an "ambush".
It's not a small content release. I'd say this is half of a 2004-era expansion pack that retailed for $50.
>>345019571
Yeah maybe that was my mistake. I came into the game ready to defend humanity and find myself raped on every side by turn 5. Fuck, calm down guys, we all want a united Empire but can't we be civil about this?
>>345019024
Tfw i had to chase a orc stack with my dorfs for 25 turns.
>>345019657
I wouldn't say half, maybe a quarter or a third at best.
>>345019178
False equivalency anon. The costs of those updates are probably nothing compared to what content costs today.
>>345019605
It's a stance that allows you to hide your army either to ambush enemies army if they walk to you during their turn or to get close undetected
>>345019657
Its a minute content release.
In 2004 xpac era this would not get released. They would have included at least 2 races, and new units for all theold ones. And then price it for around 40$
>>345017967
Yes! You tell them anon!
I'll be seeing you when you're reading to hand in those 300 dollars after all of this is done because you are a productive working man.
>>345019964
Why the hell didn't you use ambush? I've heard this multiple times but using ambush as long as it works usually makes the AI turn around and charge back putting them in range if not running right into you.
>>345020003
S-stances? I should really play the tutorial.
I'm starting to think this game has evolved a little too much for me to jump right in like I own the place.
>>345020195
Ambush never seems to work with me. My army always seems to be found the next turn.
>>345020195
>tfw ambushing Archaon with three full empire army
>>345019326
as a life long wfb fag i fully expected to get raped by sega and gw.
15€ for beastmen is LESS than i thought it would be.
>>345020336
It has a 50% success rate. As long as you don't give up after one or two tries you should be having success.
>>345020195
Only had ambush work for me once. The way your army is set up totally destroyed my tactic, altough you do get so much advantage that you crush everything anyway.
But yea, i always either get detected, or they fuck off barelly out of range.
>>345019708
You have to butter them up. At least one faction, usually Talabecland, will start as buds with you, and should be open to confederation after a few turns. Marienburg is the faction to conquer first, since nobody likes them and their port gives huge cash.
>>345020474I for one welcome this price.
>>345020291
It's a button close to your lord portraits on the bottom left you have 4 or five different one
>>345020509
What? I thought it varied on terrain? I swear I've seen it drop as low as 20%.
>>345020353
>tfw assassinating Archaon
oops
>>345018668
You're not wrong, but for the amount of content it would deliver I'm more than fine with paying for it. After all most of the factions will have to be paid for through Expansions, which will probably be 40 or maybe even 60 dollars. They're gonna do 2 of those over the next however many years it takes to bring literally all the major factions into the game + major DLC like the Goatmen and freelc like extra Lords and units
Why exactly does no one like Radious? It just looks like more free content to me.
>>345020509
>30% assassination chance
>fail 5 turns in a row
>enemy gets 4 critical successes in a row
>install mod that prevents agents from dicking around
That was on my heroes and agents built specifically for surviving assassinations and counterassassinating.
>no ghorgon, jabberslythe, or harpies
>reused giant, chaos spawn and warhounds
I was interested before finding this out. They left their most interesting units out in favor of reused assets (giant over ghorgon especially). Probably not going to buy this.
>>345020593
Oh neat, I'll look into that! Thanks!
>>345020595
Oh I did not know that. I think your right.
>>345020580
15€ for wood elves? or Dark Elves?
fucking yes please.
>>345018159
It's a near non-entity in the Warhammer universe sharing a different name for Japan. It felt like they placed Japan into Warhammer with no creative changes implemented and I got hung up on that. The place is supposed to be a mystery and I can't make any assumption on what the creators meant it to be other than a mysterious place with Japan used as an inspiration.
You were right, I was wrong. Sorry.
>>345020690
My first game ever I couldn't poke my head out from a keep or I would get instantly assasinated/wounded by a million goblin heroes on spiders. Installed the mod after I somehow made it through that game because I don't want to ever deal with that bullshit again.
>>345020690
Sounds like their heros were way higher level than yours. It gets really painful if you don't spend time/money leveling them up.
>>345020684
Bloats the economy by increasing trade and tax values and shrinks the upkeep values. Essentially after 5 turns, there are a half dozen full stacks roaming aroudn the map. It completely destroys the economic aspects of maintaining a military.
>Wew lad, a full stack of 20 demigriffs
So disregarding this debacle, is the game actually good? I keep seeing people say it's dumbed down which is pretty bad considering vanilla total war is bottom of the barrel in the first place.
I also keep hearing the new things they actually do like the quest chains don't even work properly. I remember someone saying if you're on harder difficulties you have to devote so much time to travel halfway across the map for like 1 quest then travel all the way back, leaving your territories exposed isn't worth it. I also hear there isn't enough income to have more than a few armies at once and it barely changes despite all the new land you get.
I really liked Attila and hated Rome 2 which sounds odd, but I'm not sure if I'd like this game despite loving Warhammer. Campaign map sounds especially dumbed down and battle map just sounds like rushing because the fighting is too fast. I didn't even mind how fast Attila was.
>>345004608
>game dosent have all races to begin with
you guys buying these dlc's are what makes modern games shit
>>345020986
The last 2 heroes he assassinated, were a lvl 24 grudgebearer and a lvl 21 random hero. With his lvl fucking 8 agents. That pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back, because it was either complete rng bullshit, or some bug to give them such insane rng.
>>345020926
You gotta have your own heroes to counter theirs. You can have 3 of each type if I remember correctly with one of the types having bonus skill for assassination.
>>345021056
>I also keep hearing the new things they actually do like the quest chains don't even work properly. I remember someone saying if you're on harder difficulties you have to devote so much time to travel halfway across the map for like 1 quest then travel all the way back, leaving your territories exposed isn't worth it.
Yeah but for 5000 gold you can teleport instantly to the battle and back again.
I'd say around 5 full stacks is the most i've had as the empire. They weren't just bottom of the barrel cannon fodder either.
Yeah a lot of small things have been removed but the game is still challenging during battles. Don't expect shield walls or phalanx formations to be an option. All of that has been removed but the micromanaging of spells has become very important.
>>345021056
You can teleport to the quest location instantly
>>345020509
Ambush chance depends on the terrain
>>345018287
Is that the Rome mod
Christ
>>345021056
All of your "hurr i hurd this" remarks are completely wrong. Why not do 5 minutes worth of research into the game instead of asking retarded and illfounded questions on /v/?
>>345021389
Whoa how do you do that? Shit I ran all the way across the map for the last vampire campaign quest for Mannfred.
>wait until "complete" edition + sale for what isn't include
>get game without being jewed too hard
>>345021439
This is another nitpick i have with the game.
Is it possible to show what terrain is where? Just going by the visual representation is extremely missleading from my experience.
>>345021290
I had a Thane and an Engineer assigned with the Thane fully specced into reducing enemy hero success chance on my legendary lord. The problem was that there were no enemies anywhere nearby so I couldn't level any more heroes while every other faction had level 20 something heroes running about assasinating anything I sent out, so I could only ever have one stack running around. That system is shit. But the deploying and attacking / stealing from settlements or wounding armies is cool though.
>>345021496
Gee i dunno man, try clicking the quest in the quests section and click the (recently increased) fucking massive teleport button.
>>345021056
Anon the income for more armies thing keeps you from getting too powerful so even late game your AI enemies can still be a credible threat. Total War has had that problem in their past games where you become too powerful and everything is trivial.
>>345021703
Also random fucking full stacks of orcs popping up even after i completely wiped them out.
>>345021459
Not him, but gathering anecdotal information from forums isn't a terrible way to gather information. If you don't want to waste your time with his questions just ignore him.
>>345019450
That's where I am. I don't have time anymore to play single player campaigns so I end up bro-oping them. And these usually end up being 1v1 campaigns so it serves me no good.
I'll pass until a sale. I only got Blood because I had some steam funny money on my account. Not paying 1/3 of release price for one race.
>>345021056
I haven't run into any quest chain problems. 137 hours into the game so far.
>>345021496
It's a button on the summary screen. It wasn't super obvious at first so they made it bigger in the Blood Knights patch.
>>345021590
I mean... you can see it on the campaign map. It's not like it's an entirely grey swathe of land. You can also see your ambush success chance, I think either by holding the cursor over a bit of terrain or on the ambush stance button itself.
>>345021590
I believe you mouse hover over the terrain with an army selected and it will tell you the terrain type and ambush chance
>>345021187
Are you using mods?
Try this one http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693592647
And the other one in the description. Since playing with them and the latest patch, I've had a lot less of that bullshit happening in my games.
>>345003098
Wake me when Bretonnians are available.
>>345021056
yes the game is actually good.
the game is simplified. like you dont have to give a shit about food or sanitation which works pretty well here i think.
magic and monsters bring a lot to the game.
sieges are terrible.
>>345021921
Yea, but atm im just using the mod that prevents the enemy from using agents, but to make it fair i also dont use them.
>>345021781
You talking about rebellions? Those get nasty fast if you don't deal with them immediately.
All the DLC complainers: you can pirate the DLC
>>345022280
how about you pay for your games you underage faggot
>>345021379
>>345021389
Oh, thanks. The first I've heard of the teleporting and I was watching streams the couple of days before and after it was released. I guess it will be fun as long as battles are still fun and its not a curbstomp.
>>345021459
Because there isn't a place I can ask how the economy is going to work in the late game and get a straight answer, and its better here than in the steam forums or TWcenter or whatever. Good things those "remarks" are actually concerns I had that I wanted challenged or disproven in the first place.
>>345022030
Thanks and the sieges were the last thing that worried me. What's exactly wrong with them if I might ask? Towns looks pretty simple for one.
>>345022250
Nope, not rebelions. Just a random stack in the middle of my +100 happyness lands popping up, farthest away from 3 of my army stacks.
Probably so the game does not become too easy after completely wiping out the orcs because it said something about new orcs falling in from who knows where. But its still annoying to keep having to chase new stacks that randomly pop up and do nothing but pillage around.
>>345022515
Is it a WAAAGH?
>>345022023
have a nice sleep then
>>345022023
>muh maiden
>>345022515
The latest patch gave savage Orc tribes the ability to respawn as horde factions in random places.
>>345022569
Nope, i killed off literally all orc tribes.
>>345022698
That could be it. As they randomly appear after every so many turns, and i have completely taken over all orc lands,
So I've been thinking about getting this game because the sound of artillery fire makes my dick hard and the dwarves look to have that in spades.
How is AoE-damage in this game? Can it friendly-fire? Does half my artillery become useless when my troops are in melee?
Also based on what I've sen on the Tube, snow seems to be very hard to see through in battle. Is it possible to turn down/mod down the weather effects a little?
>>345005212
I don't know much about WH. How exactly would Bretonnia differ from The Empire human army that we already have?
>>345022440
You can't flank the city. The city is just a long wall and then a VP point behind it.
It doesn't very well at all.
>>345012612
>>345009583
>>345009683
the amount of wagecuck shills in this thread is demoralizing
having fun paying $20 for unfinished DLC cucks
>>345022832
>How is AoE-damage in this game? Can it friendly-fire? Does half my artillery become useless when my troops are in melee?
Yes you can kill your own troops but if you position your artillery right you can easily hit enemies even in close combat with your troops. Well maybe not with rockets but with cannon or organ guns you can do that. Especially if you manually aim.
>>345022832
I think you're better off with Empire for your artillery boner.
What Dwarves have over Empire is that their ranged units function well in melee, but they are slow.
Empire has cavalry but their missile infantry is completely fucked in melee.
If you want to turtle, go Dwarf. If you want good ranged units and artillery but also want an army that can move about, go Empire
>>345023009
we have been raped for years by games workshop. 20 bucks for some dlc is a steal for us
>>345022832
>How is AoE-damage in this game?
Depends on the unit. Most magic AoE is either hard to use(Vortexes) or kinda mediocre (Magic Bombardments). Most siege AoE ranges from pretty okay for the price (mortars) to quite powerful. (Hellstorm rockets, most dwarf artillery.)
>Can it friendly fire
Yes.
>Does half my artillery become useless when my troops are in melee?
Kind of. Depends how tolerant the situation lets you be of friendly fire and whether or not the enemy army has ranged/reserve units.Dwarf flame cannons are useless, don't bother with them. Organ guns and their various other cannons are much better.
>>345023219
The sad part is I get an entire campaign and completely unique race/army for twenty bucks, compared to a single model.
Love CA. Fuck GW
>>345022851
Knights, knights, dirty peasant scum, and flying knights
>>345023112
>manual aim
Fucking sold.
>everyone wants elves instead
Every time. For once we actually get beastmen and everyone just wants more faggot elves.
>Muh brown orcs
>Muh we already have chaos
Beastmen are cooler than both get fucked
>>345023583
honestly though if you want to fap to artillery you might want to check out fall of the samurai. or napoleon.
both of those games got great arty play.
>>345023483
exactly! i spent 300€ on 40k last month.
and my army isnt even finished! fuck!
>>345006578
That was a cygor but I understand what you meant, it's probably a reason when we could have gotten a nice ghorgon instead.
>>345006010
I want to fuck a wood elf.
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
DLC 1 - Chaos Warriors
DLC 2 - Blood
DLC 3 - Beastmen
So far so good....
Also pic related for free DLCs, we already got Blood Knights and are getting Amber Wizard and Lore of Beasts. Bretonnia is later in that line, after two Legendary Lords and another Hero and Magic Lore (probably another Empire Wizard).
