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Did /v/ get into the alpha? Is it any good?
it's just okay.
I mean it's Battlefield, nig. What do you think you're getting?
>>344983957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRRrjffUXzM
It looks like fucking shit. I thought this game was supposed to have good graphics?
>>344983957
Yeah, have been playing a lot of the alpha and having a blast. Lots of cool new changes add up and there's some really cool attention to detail. Destruction is absolutely awesome.
>>344983957
https://youtu.be/hj8rSuGeMd0
it's fun :3
>>344984454
This is bait, right?
>>344984689
It may be but that image is obviously not gameplay and part of the baked hype material.
BF games usually look good but not that good.
>>344984789
I mean Battlefront looked fucking incredible and that game was a rushjob
>>344984689
Is that an in-game render? Looks great
>>344984689
>gameplay footage obviously looks like shit
>better post some bullshot to change this fact
>>344984789
Its an in-game screenshot you dip
Taken by someone from the alpha
>>344984789
Are you're judging from a compressed youtube video you sperg, who is more in the wrong?
>>344984825
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/4q3hk4/bf1_different_weathers_changing_the_atmosphere_in/?st=iqmdih2i&sh=69907253
Same as that naughty dog game. Game looks good, has a photo mode that applies a bunch of post processing effects so people can post it and say wowee look how great it looks
>>344984820
yeah, and also only had small maps and no destruction
>>344984936
'no'. it's a screenshot that has been altered by processing software.
you can't argue that shit when there's gameplay footage available and we all know what it looks like.
>>344984789
>Screengrab of a compressed youtube video
>Indicative of the game's graphics
>>344984958
Look up some raw footage or play the game yourself. You're judging it based on the compressed 720p youtube footage you watch you mong
>>344984936
>that complete lack of aliasing
no, it's not an in-game screenshot.
>>344983957
Yes I am /v/ and it sucked.
>>344985034
>Bullshot
>Indicative of the game's graphics
>>344985047
I have I'm just using what is posted in this thread.
I really don't give a fuck senpai its gonna have the same braindead gameplay as BF3 and BF4 did full of the CoD audience they want so bad.
>>344984789
>that scope
Is that really something that existed back then? It looks like high tech shit.
>>344984863
I mean the graphics look fine and it just looks like another standard Battlefield game gameplay-wise. What's your problem? It's not photo realistic?
>>344985145
>braindead
Explain
>>344985263
It looked great in the promotional footage and now it looks like BF4, a 2013 game, and worse than Battlefront. How are you defending this?
![telescopes_for_sharpshooters-tfb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/twJWmqT.jpg "telescopes for sharpshooters-tfb[1]")
>>344985226
Took me like 5 seconds to google "first world war scopes" to find dozens of pictures.
>>344985030
The game looks fine. I don't care about Battlefield games, I especially don't care about the graphics, but the graphics and gameplay look perfectly fine to me in that video. Honestly I feel like you're either baiting or just really miserable and whiny and you're taking it out here.
Don't you care more about the gameplay anyway? Why not comment on that instead of whining about something that will barely affect your enjoyment of the game?
Maybe I'm just out of touch but the emphasis on good graphics these days just doesn't make sense to me. Almost all games that are coming out are meeting the standard for 'good graphics'. I can only assume it's people who grew up with nice looking games and so a game that doesn't push graphic quality further is 'terrible', regardless of the gameplay.
So is this going to be a watered down piece of crap like the last battlefront game compared to its predecessors or what?
Im still salty as fuck they removed all those progressive rush maps. Fucking the one in bf3 where you jump off a fucking cliff, god dammit why, rush was the best part of the game, conquest is just a bunch of shitters camping and running around ghost capping bases, its fucking retarded
>>344985674
Whatever nerd.
>>344985226
I thought that at first too, but the longer I looked at it, the more it started to resemble a very old camera or something primitive like that.
>>344985826
Thanks for the giggle
>>344985710
>I don't care about this game but let me make this big shill post to defend it
>>344983957
Better than the overhyped overwatch
>>344985784
I think the tipping point was Bad Company 2
The game just oozed fun and actually made use of the destruction gimmick quite well.
BF3 and 4 toned everything that was good about that series down.where the fuck is bad company 3?
>>344985784
t. Mad because bad
Conquest is fun as hell as long as you have an inkling of what you're doing
Rush is good on a few maps but is often one-sides
>>344986532
Conquest is TDM with flags
Attack/defend game modes are always superior
>>344986161
explain your reasoning cause it makes no sense to me
BF4 has more destruction than Bad Gustav 2. BF3 had more internal destruction too.
BC2 has less of everything than BF3 and 4 and plays like shit since it's a console shooter.
>>344986605
>Conquest is TDM with flags
>TDM
>Kills no longer count towards the score
B8 harder m8.
>>344986605
...and rush is tdm with progressive flags? How does that make sense
Kills don't nearly matter as much as objectives do
There's also obliteration, which is very fun, chainlink, CTF, gun master, etc
>>344986867
BF4 is shit it has the same crap formula that 3 has which is a bunch of points close together even the expansions didnt solve it.
Battlefront well thats basically BF1 lite
I dont know who the fuck Dice are trying to appeal to with these games since CoD is now dead and they basically own the market again why dont they just go back to form and make a Real BF2 sequel.
No memes
Im still Waiting for 2143 or something else but i guess thats off the table for another 3+ years while they fart around with ww1that said if it doesnt turn out to be trash ill play it
>EA is actually paying this stupidfuck to market this shitty WW2 reskin
>>344986870
it's going to play out exactly the same
i.e. people are just going to run around going for kills because there is no frontline
>>344983957
Superior multiplayer game coming through.
>>344987145
>a bunch of point close together
Explain
>>344987162
>ww2 reskin
Literally what the fuck
>>344987241
You know the capture points? They are too close together i liked them more spaced out like they where in BF2 and 1942
2142 was two steps forward and one step back
1943 was okay but clearly it didnt track since they didnt make a full game out of it like they wanted to.
Cool tech its aged pretty well.
I'd love to see them actually try something new since ww1 is basically ww2 lite and they just copy pasta'd battlefront mixed with the worst parts of bf3 from what i could see
>>344987425
>He really thinks it's a WW1 shooter.
>>344984396
BF2>BC2>BF4, so no BF doesn't automatically mean good
>>344987163
Even the dumbest kid will realise how important capping points is when people with lower K/Ds than him consistently reach the top of the scoreboard while he hugs the bottom.
>>344987629
>he really thinks using greentext explains anything and proves him right
>>344987629
>He thinks BF:1942 was a WW2 shooter
>He thinks BF:V was a Vietnam shooter
>He thinks BF:2/3/4 are modern warfare shooters
Go back to Arma or Verdun or whatever.
>>344987775
>He is actually this stupid and needs to be spoon fed even further.
Facebook cancer everyone.
>>344987858
>WW1
>Everyone has a machine gun.
also
>He doesn't think 1942 was a WW2 shooter.
The idiots just keep pilling in.
>>344987507
m8, there are like over 20 maps and 2 modes of CQ. There are plenty of maps with spaced out capture points. You're trashing 2 entire games based on a couple of CQ maps?
>>344987775
Not the >>344987629 anon but did you even fucking watch any gameplay of this game? The game has far far far too many automatics for a ww1 game so it may aswell be ww2.
>>344985034
the "compressed youtube video" argument is the dumbest argument ever.
>>344987972
To be honest most of the maps are clusterfucks.
>>344987969
Ah yes, let's have everyone use bolt actions and sit in trenches and slowly die of gangrene while they wait for the order to go over the top from command, that'll surely make a good game.
Anon, you're a genius!
>>344987969
>>344988012
>Bolt actions weren't the primary infantry weapons in WW2
>Everyone were running around with SMGs in WW2
>Everyone were running around, hip firing LMGs in WW2
People who thinks this is more like WW2 are fucking stupid.
>>344987969
>can't explain his point of view
>"stupid Facebook cancer fug off xd"
Truly amazing
>>344988214
wow leave this board any time
>WW1 game has more automatics than a WW2 game.
>Shills are ACTUALLY defending this.
>>344988012
See this
>>344988214
Also the bolt actions are pretty powerful, they ohk at a certain range, you just have to actually aim well
>>344988214
Never mind bayonet charges!
Never mind navigating no man's land!
>>344988349
Wow, continue to post non-replies with worthless reaction pics
>>344988349
this is a forum not a board you Fucking idiot
>Everyone can run around with full auto rifles
>NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT ONLY HIGH RANKING OFFICERS HAD ACCESS TO THESE EXPENSIVE WEAPONS XDDDD
>nevermind the fucking fact that lowly soldiers only had one strip of bullets and a shitty surplus bolt-action and off to be canon fodder they went
>>344983957
>"WE'RE FINALLY MAKING THE WW1 GAME EVERYONE SECRETLY WANTED
>"hold on though, let me make this as close to a WW2 game as possible
>hold on, can't forget to make it racially diverse :^)
Fuck them, I hope it bombs. The one thing I hate most in the world is history revision. The fact that they couldn't make a simple WW1 game without filling it with revisionist shit and prototype weapons that only had 5K in production at the time is fucking abhorrent, and they should be ashamed of themselves. I mean, even COD of all things managed to put effort into how they include women in combat roles by handwaving them with "it's the future get over it."
>>344988467
ANON I DO NOT WANT TO USE BOLT ACTIONS IN MY SHOOTY GAMES I DON'T WANT TO BE PUNISHED FOR MISSING
GIVE ME MY SMGS NOWWW
>>344988319
>So retarded he needs someone to explain every single thing to him.
>''le i r knot dum guys xD''
Go back to facebook please.
>>344988443
>battlefield is a mil sim
>>344988624
>Having the most widely used standard issue rifle makes it a sim.
If RO2 was a failure why would this shit be any different?
Besides the marvelous
>lel the arcade shooters are fun xD
argument.
>>344988531
>bayonet charges aren't in the game
>no mans land isn't in the game
Have you even watched a single round of bf1 or did you just come here for (you)s?
>>344988587
no one said it was going to be historically accurate you spastic
>>344988734
Standard issue bolt action rifles are in the game you tool. You don't HAVE to use them though.
>>344988738
>RO2
>failure
>>344988587
>The fact that they couldn't make a simple WW1 game without filling it with revisionist shit and prototype weapons that only had 5K in production
Because a Chinese soldier running around with a Famas and D. Eagle and defibs tht instantly revives someone who got sniped in the head is so much more accurate amirite?
>>344988806
The only bolt action rifles are sniper rifles you fucking faggot.
>>344988573
>>344988587
Jesus Christ you people. Were you legitimately expecting it to be a ww1 simulator? Where you spend several months in the trenches before getting blown to bits by artillery or dying of dysentery?
Also anyone that bases their history off a fucking battlefield game is literally retarded.
>>344988742
>He thinks knife backup weapon reskin counts as a bayonet charge.
>He thinks no man's land is just a flat piece of land.
>>344988891
You don't have to use a scope.
>>344988604
Underage please leave, or at least start telling me to go to places other than Facebook. Variety is the spice of life.
>>344988891
No.
>>344988891
That's where you're mistaken
>>344988954
You fucking idiot, most of war isn't running around with a machine gun anyway.
People sat in trenches in WW2.
People sat in positions getting bombed in WW2
>>344989062
THERES LITERALLY A BAYONET CHARGE MECHANIC
THERES LITERALLY A PART OF THE ALPHA MAP DEDICATED TO TRENCHES AND NO-MANS LAND
Can you be more ignorant?
>>344988954
It could at least try, like RO2, which is by no means simulator, yet it tries to make it at least somewhat believable. BF1 just jumps the shark and goes one step below a fucking alternate history with all of prototype shit and frontline aerostats.
>>344987198
I thought the first titanfall was fun but just kind of boring after a few hours; I liked the premise and mobility in the combat, it just got dull over a short amount of time for me. I'm pretty hyped for the sequel though but I dunno if that singleplayer campaign will be good.
>>344989284
That's what i said?
Do you want a game where you sit in trenches and get bombed?
>>344989405
Its battlefield
It has never been close to realistic
Of course its not going to be like ro2, no bf game was, not even fucking 1942 or 1943
>>344989405
>BF1 just jumps the shark and goes one step below a fucking alternate history with all of prototype shit and frontline aerostats.
you mean like Battlefield always has?
>>344989467
I want a game that had more realistic WW1 action than just a WW2 reskin. The Eastern front didn't have many trenches anyway. If they wanted a more mobile theater they could had choose to use that.
>/v/ juding the entire game on 1 map, a handful of weapons in an alpha build
every time
>>344989665
Verdun?
I was thinking of getting it
>>344989665
>I want a game that had more realistic WW1 action
Why the hell then are you in a Battlefield thread?
>>344989782
I don't know so far everyone is talking about a fantasy game taking place in an era when everyone had machine guns and looks like dragons could as well be around.
>>344989624
>>344989629
BF2 was pretty grounded, probably the most grounded BF even.
>>344989782
I guess M-16's are fantasy then.
>>344989885
But there WERE machineguns everywhere in WW1.
If you want, you can take a bunch of roleplayers to your server and each team can sit in a trench and you can shout at each other while someone fires artillery all around you.
The problem is, nobody wants to do that. People want to fight.
>>344989771
Because now days most alphas and betas have little to no difference between them versus the final release.
>>344989885
>so far everyone is talking about a fantasy game taking place in an era when everyone had machine guns
Oh so you mean literally every Battlefield game ever made?
>and looks like dragons could as well be around.
Dragons didn't exist in WW1. Every weapon/gadget/vehicle you see in the game however did, even if it wasn't commonplace.
>>344990032
Wtf are you talking about? Elaborate.
>>344990110
Machine guns you are thinking of were too heavy to run around shooting people rambo style.
MACHINE GUNS were stationary.
ITT: People expecting realism from a bf game for some reason
>>344990285
Because hip firing machine guns in WW2 and modern war is so much more realistic right?
>>344990112
This.
Especially if its on a very solid base engine like Frostbite
Even Digital Foundary said this is basically what the final game will be and ive been playing bf beta's since 2011 so its true
>>344990119
So I guess every battlefield game is just made up garbage with weapons that no one could get, but technically existed in a basement of some lab in a far away country so that means everyone can get it.
If that was the case then where are the nuclear rocket launches in Vietnam i feel cheated.
>>344990467
We expect a WW1 game to not be WW2, how hard is this to understand, shill?
>>344983957
>Did /v/ get into the alpha?
no
> Is it any good?
no
>>344990467
imagine if 1942 was remade using current tech but it was a straight remaster and not modernized
People would hate it
>No ranks
>No progression
>babbies wouldnt have to come back and grind
Then again overwatch is popular for some reason and so is csgo
Everyone fickle as fuck
>>344990517
It's more realistic to hipfire a 25 pound MG than a 80 pound WW1 Maxim.
>>344990110
You don't run around with machinegun's for obvious reasons dumb-ass.
>you can take a bunch of roleplayers to your server and each team can sit in a trench and you can shout at each other while someone fires artillery all around you.
There's a reason nobody made a WW1 fps until now. It took the likes of DICE and their blatant disregard for the period.
>>344990623
>So I guess every battlefield game is just made up garbage with weapons that no one could get, but technically existed in a basement of some lab in a far away country so that means everyone can get it.
Yes. That's literally exactly what I'm saying you idiot. You literally described the entire Battlefield series.
>>344990631
Bf1943 wasn't a simulator bud
You have a very wrong idea of what ww2 was
>>344990865
So I guess Americans starting out with m-16 and Russians starting out with AK's isn't very realistic.
>>344990285
Machine guns could be set up and taken down. Not all machine guns were setup on a tripod in some sandbags. LMGs were used whilst advancing to lay suppressing fire.
>>344990863
>agrees that a ww1 trench sim would suck
>fucking dice, disregarding history
>>344988124
Based on that post I can only assume that you're a dumb motherfucker
its alright. im not a fan of a class being dedicated to nothing but smg's/light machine guns but the game feels great to play, you get really immersed in the action. not a fan of the we wuz kings n shit meme as well since the files have confirmed that theres player customization (like battlefront) so there wont just be an all black scout class for the germans.
will it be worth 60-80 bucks? if you like old style games with no real frills, you'll like it. kinda like how cod: waw did it. no locking on, no ac-130 above, no 144x magnification scopes for sniping across the entire map.
>>344990836
The machine guns in the BF1 aplha:
Lewis Gun
>28 pounds
Vickers machine gun
>33-51 pounds
Madsen machine gun
>20 pounds
>>344990863
Please state these obvious reasons, I'm curious how retarded you are.
>Colonial Warfare game.
>Instead of muzzle loaded muskets, everyone gets shoulder fired repeating cannons since they technically existed in a drawing by a crazy Italian man.
>>344991338
>Guns were working and deployed in the war
>"lol le fantasy weapon"
please just fuck off
>>344991021
So I guess you think it's realistic that a American soldier is running around with a AEK-971 then?
>>344988124
you're right dude. in other news, wow, witcher 3 has some really bad graphics, just look at this man. I dont know how anyone can play this!
>>344991252
Vickers gun required a tripod to fire.
Lewis guns were aircraft weapons that rarely got in the hands of infantrymen.
Madsen was barely even in the war.
>>344991258
>its heavy
>in WW1 is was still considered as a small artillery piece now matter what it is from a 28-pound Lewis to a 50 pound Maxim, you don't send it in with the troops on the attack. You station it in a fixed place to provide support.
>Machine guns are also considered very valuable. During the war platoons that lost their machine-guns are reprimanded.
I await the idiocy that you will reply to this. Probably along the lines of "It doesn't have to be realistic!" or "that wasn't obvious!". 10 points if the word "retard" is your post too.
>>344991545
It's more realistic for a American today to buy a cheap russian gun than a WW1 grunt to be able to afford an expensive and German sub-machine gun.
Every single BF1 thread on /v/:
>we wuz soldierz n shiet
>only bolt actions existed
>where are the trenches and disease?
>ww2 reskin xD
Why doesn't anyone ever talk about the good and new things we saw from the alpha?
What does everyone thing about the new spawn map?
What about those glorious sounds?
Opinions on the Vehicles?
Let's actually talk about this game instead of memeing for once.
>>344991505
>Weapon saw action in 1 battle
>LOOK GUYS IT COUNTS
>>344990931
No one said it should be a simulator retard. BF1943 felt like a WW2 game which was good. This one also feels like a WW2 game and that's not good. You thick fucking cunt.
>>344991947
>attempting to have reasonable discussion
>on /v/
Look at the op, I tried already
>tfw RO2 had Japanese Banzai Bayonet charges that offered enemy moral and suppressed them.
>tfw the Karabiner 98k was the superior bolt action rifle with amazing accuracy and power.
>tfw Glorious German Soldiers had the best uniforms and helmets.
>tfw you drive a heavily armored Panzer into battle with 3 other friendly soldiers all with their unique positions and responsiblities.
>tfw no racial diversity on both Russia and Germany.
I'll just go back to Red Orchestra 2. That shit is far more accurate. After all, BF1 is just a WWII skin right guys?
>>344992090
>a ww2 game felt like a ww2 game
Is this some new meme or just really ironic shitposting?
>>344992217
Are you actually literally retarded?
>>344991858
>Series that's infamous for including obscure prototype weapons.
>Many weapons in the Battlefield series have never even seen combat.
>This is suddenly not okay when it's WW1.
>>344992274
No, I'm simply quoting you. Maybe you should be asking that of yourself?
>>344991947
Every single EA shill.
>we wuz black soldiers an shieeettttt
>It's not a WW2 reskin! These weapons technically existed!
>I sure hope it's a BF3,4,5 clone!
>U racist xD
Why would you be existed for ANOTHER Battlefield?
This game is a WW2 reskinned BF4 clone meant to appear like it took place in WW1.
There is already plenty wrong with that formula.
If you wanted another BF just play 2,3,4,5,1942,21,BC.
There is literally nothing wrong with taking a historical theme for a premise and making reasonable alterations in order to make the gameplay more appealing to a larger audience.
You people act like this is some kind of scifi alternate universe WWI just because a few types of firearms that existed are a bit more common. Its not like people are toting laser weapons and rewriting who won. You could bitch at the Wolfenstein devs if they had said their games were historically accurate, but BF1 is fine.
>>344992329
Yes you quoted me and you completely misunderstood my point, you're a fucking mongoloid.
>>344992403
>>344992554
>tumblr filename.
It's all making sense now.
>>344991943
So what if they're heavy? They were used with straps for marching fire maneuvers on enemy trenches and machine gun placements.
Are they better used in a prone position with the barrel resting? Of course, you get a massive accuracy bonus in the game when you set up an LMG.
Are they impossible to fire whilst moving? No, absolutely not.
Now fuck off retard retard retard retard retard retard retard retard.
>>344992403
>This game is a WW2 reskinned BF4 clone
>Make BF4 clone with WW2 theme
>Suddenly it feels like WW2
>Make BF4 clone with WW1 theme
>Suddenly it feels like WW2
Flawless logic anon.
>>344992030
>It existed
>It was used
>Added for more variety
Why shouldn't it count? Do you want less options in your video game?
>>344992403
I knew I couldn't ask people to stop memeing without getting a meme(You).
>>344992636
It really is distressing
>>344992796
More realistic options(or more realistic) would had make sense.
How about not everyone starting out with experimental weapons until you get a certain point percentage or score.
A normal grunt starts out with a standard issue bolt action rifle (nerf long range dmg so people won't cry about snipers) Then as the soldier shows more promise he upgrades to a experimental prototype weapon.
Did Dice fire their team after BC2? The games just feel so different now. BF3 was a fever nightmare and the only destruction in BF4 are scripted events that get boring after three matches.
>>344992886
>memeing.
It's not 2010 anymore anon.
>>344983957
ITT: People hating a battlefield game for being a battlefield game.
>>344993072
This will very probably be the case you moron. The past few BF games require you to play to unlock more weapons.
The game ain't even out yet. Stop talking in absolutes.
>>344992682
And there we go.
>Are they impossible to fire whilst moving?
You can pull the trigger. But you'd be firing at everything else save the target.
>Are they better used in a prone position with the barrel resting?
Not better used, that's is how it is used. You can't fire it from the hip and expect to the weapon to function properly. Even modern LMG's
>They were used with straps for marching fire maneuvers
So you can displace the fucking things and get them to another firing position.
You're not just retarded, you're a persistent retard. Which is the most retarded retard there is. I'd tell you to kill yourself, but your brain barely functions as it is.
BF1942 literally had a jetpack
>>344992510
"BF1943 felt like a WW2 game"
Amazing really, especially considering it was one
"This one also feels like a WW2 game"
Let me tell you something, ww2 game =/= actual ww2. Bf1942 isn't realistic, bf 1943 isn't realistic, BF:V isn't realistic, and surprise surprise, bf1 isnt realistic. Saying bf1 is a ww2 game based on bf 1943 is like watching transformers than complaining that real life isn't similar
>>344984820
it took three years anon what part of that is rushed
are their bolt action rifles in the game?
>>344993242
>This will very probably be the case you moron
I very much doubt that. Especially seeing they don't really have standard issue bolt action rifles. Hell they don't even have the french.
>>344992636
>what is Google.com, the web search engine that returns results even from tumblr
Fascinating
>>344993267
>You can't fire it from the hip and expect to the weapon to function properly. Even modern LMG's
Yet it's okay when BF2/3/4 does but not when BF1 does it? Gotcha.
Also machine guns in the game are literally extremely inaccurate unless you're using a bipod.
>>344993291
1942 was closer to WW2 than BFWW1 was to WW1. And BFWW1 is closer to WW2.
>>344993151
I know, it's the current year and I'm STILL getting memed on.
>>344993072
>locking op weapons behind skill or level
Sounds like a great way to get new players to quit
>>344993297
I just hope they didn't spent those 3 years like.
>1 year concept and planning
>1.5 years actual development
>6 months marketing
>>344993426
>using google to search reaction images.
You are only digging the hole deeper cancer.
>>344992796
I want suffering simulator, not happy arcade shitfest. Hell even making it a little bit more grounded would help. But no, instead we have a fucking tank class that easily drives at 40+km/h and farts gas clouds, together with zeppelin mounted artillery.
>>344993291
You are one daft piece of shit. Let me rephrase what I said in simpler terms for your tiny little brain to comprehend.
>WW2 GAME FEELS LIKE WW2 = GOOD
>WW1 GAME FEELS LIKE WW2 = BAD
Whether you agree or not that BF1 feels like a WW2 game is a different matter, but basically you're fucking retarded.
>fuck guys, we forgot how to design satisfying combined arms gameplay, the one thing that set us apart
>let's simply remove jets like in BC and Hardline
>Let's nerf helicopters like in every game since BF2
>let's place it in a setting where helicopters don't exist and airplanes were mainly used for reconnaisance
Those selfsatisfied lazy rich sellouts I swear
>>344993139
Bc2 was the bomb but the larger maps and bigger vehicle choice in 3/4 is nice as well
>>344993576
the weapons are largely fairly balanced
>>344993621
>I want suffering simulator, not happy arcade shitfest.
why are you playing Battlefield then?
>>344983957
>You are only digging the hole deeper cancer.
Not the anon you are talking to. But shut up you hypocritical cunt.
You people are missing the fucking point. Realism isn't the issue, DICE being fucking stupid is the issue.
They still haven't added vehicle entrance/exit animations despite them being the only way to make Tanks anything but a disposable shield/weapon loadout, Plus, now tanks LITERALLY have a "Press X To Repair" button. They fucking literally have that.
>>344993505
>but not when BF1 does it?
Don't carry that goalpost to far billy!
We were talking about the mobility of ww1 machineguns dumbass. And yes it would be a problem for bf1 due to the era it is portraying. Its portrayal not fiction, learn the difference you glue sniffing grade-school dropout.
>>344993267
Listen professor armchair because you're clearly not getting it.
The gun was used whilst NOT stationary. It wasn't too good.
The gun was used whilst stationary. It was pretty good.
You can do both in the game. Both will have different effects.
The gun will fire without being set up on a tripod, now for the love of god stop posting.
>>344984634
nice video
>>344993660
Not that anon but you're an idiot. He's basically saying:
>WW2 GAME =/= WW2
>WW1 GAME =/= WW1
>>344993394
The game DOES have standard bolts. You can aim down the irons with them. That is what you want, isn't it?
>>344993876
>They still haven't added vehicle entrance/exit animations
fuck you are stupid
>>344993835
I still have fond memories of bf2, pretty much, and hope that next bf will finally come back to the roots of the best battlefield game ea did.
>>344993621
If you want a sim you're in the wrong place friend. Battlefield has NEVER been a simulator of any kind.
>>344993876
wow, so many people have only watched 2 minutes of gameplay and are basing everything off that
its hilarious to see the average /v/ user and how fucking stupid they are.
>>344993915
>Its portrayal not fiction
>>344988443
I think it might be set in alternate reality and not in our world. Just like bioshock games
>>344988443
it doesnt, though
its just that 90% of the gameplay thats been shown is from the assault class, the only one that gets automatics
every other class gets bolt/lever actions.
>>344994018
They are sniper rifles anons. There shouldn't be scopes on them anyway (except for sniper class)
>>344994000
No he's not, he's saying "HURRR OBVIOUSLY WW2 GAME FEELS LIKE WW2 GAME". This isn't an argument about realism, you fucking shit stain. BF1943 felt like a WW2 game, why can't BF1 feel like a WW1 game? Kill yourself you dumb fucking shill.
>>344994104
BF2 didn't know whether it was a realistic shooter or an arcade shooter and it suffered because of it
PR was and still is far better than vanilla
>>344993915
>Its portrayal not fiction, learn the difference you glue sniffing grade-school dropout.
Right. WW1 was all about capping seven flags and running around with TNT slapped to your jeep and shiet.
Get your head out of your ass. Battlefield was never meant to be a war simulator, or a faithful representation of the era of any game in the series.
>>344994330
No, they are standard issue bolt rifles with scopes added to them.
>>344993516
So soldiers ran around Iwo jima with smgs reviving people from the dead and absorbing multiple bullets without issue? Stop pretending and battlefield game is realistic - literally none of them are representative of war.
I can see what you're saying - maybe dice should have just gone with ww2, but idk
>>344994308
From all the beta videos. It shows people with Rocket launchers, Sniper rifles, Machine guns,Shotguns,SMG, Sem-Automatic.
There has yet been footage shown of standard issue bolt action rifle.
>>344994391
It had nice balance between them, it might not have been perfect, but it was far more fun than anything bf related since 2142.
>>344993660
Except you have a warped image of ww2 and ww2 games feel nothing like actual ww2? Can you get that idea into that thick skull of yours or would that be asking too much?
>>344994410
Then unadd scopes and you have a game closer to WW1 than 2.
Literally that's all they had to do. It wasn't big or fancy.
>>344994409
1942 was though. Even the second expansion was really fucking good. I can understand you BF2142-shit players probably think otherwise.
>>344994539
>BF2
>balanced
you must be joking
>>344994663
>BF1942
>war simulator
>accurate representation of WWII
bitch, please
From what I can gather they didn't research what was around and used in the field at the time and turned it's pro and cons to 11 giving it challenging gameplay mechanic with a slightly over the top feel
instead they merely researched the most experimental, random tools and combatants and by setting that as a standard leading to every player being a nigger with a machinegun.
>>344994357
>BF1943 felt like a WW2 game, why can't BF1 feel like a WW1 game?
Feelings aren't a quantifiable measurement. You idea of what a game is supposed to "feel" like is different from person to person. Saying that BF1 doesn't feel like a WW1 game is your subjective opinion. An opinion you've been treating as fact with explaining your reasoning for it.
Either tell us concrete facts, or justify your opinion. You haven't done neither.
>>344993876
Was appearing completely ignorant part of your plan?
>>344994456
Even in pacific game Japanese had bolt action rifles they used. I think only in multiplayer they were given semi-automatic for balance.
>>344984942
>>344985034
>compression erases tesselation, lighting, details and foliage density
when will this fucking meme end. every time any game is downgraded the drones come out of the woodwork with this moronic shit
STOP POSTING THIS SHIT
>>344984936
Yea... No....
>>344994740
>most experimental, random tools
Only one of the guns is a prototype and it predates WW1.
>>344994532
>rocket launchers
What are you on about?
Type in "battlefield 1 bolt actions" into Google, I promise it'll be worth it
>>344994740
>The battlefield devs did exactly what they've always done with the battlefield series.
And this is bad because?
>>344988214
that sounds fucking awesome god fuck you you're the reason every fucking game is exactly the same and devs refuse to take risks kill yourself
Looks pretty good.The Mark V is my tankfu.
>>344994708
It had nice balance between full on simulator autism and arcade shitfest. Actual game balance was wonky and it was definitely deeply flawed, something that could have been fixed in future games, if ea wouldn't just throw concept out.
>>344985380
No thinking involved
>>344988214
In 1918 the war in the West wasn't like this anymore.
>>344994738
It was. I was there.
>>344994754
See the last sentence in my previous post >>344993660
>>344994880
How can you tell from a shitty youtube grab? You cannot see the detail because the quality is so shit. Use you brain cell.
>People defending the amount of smgs and semi auto rifles in this game
>People defending the bolt actions only being used as snipers in this game
$.10 has been added to your Origin account
>>344994646
What does scopes have to do with WW1 or WW2?
>>344994708
Not him but I personally think BF2 has a nice balance, minus for jets and their dumb bombs.
Tanks were fucking powerful, but all it took was too rockets in the tracks to get it burning (and destroyed if it doesn't get repaired). The fact that you could two shot a tank from the front, as long as you aimed properly was a nice counter-balance for how powerful they were.
Choppers were also powerful, but limited ammunition forced them to retreat to their uncap to get missiles, which prevented them from completely raping the map non-stop. Also, the bigger map and the fog of war prevented them from being able to see the entire map at any given time. And they'd get one shot'd by SRAW and ERYX, which were much easier to use back then.
Yeh, jets were retarded. But again, at least they had limited ammunition, forcing them to fly all the way back to their airbase after ever bomb kill.
>>344995167
Then stop treating your opinion like it's fact you mong.
>>344994646
rifle scopes existed in the 19th century what's the problem?
>>344986980
NO ONE PLAYS OBLITERATION
Keep posting this shit to piss off >>344994889
>>344995047
once PR came out it made BF2 seem like a cheap imitation
it didn't have the cerebral gameplay of PR/Squad and it also didn't have the more visceral and over the top gameplay of the later BF games
go back and play it now and it will become apparent quite quickly
>>344995346
Never did, you shit for brains just kept misunderstanding my point instead of arguing against my opinion, if you did then the argument would've been different. But you are too fucking stupid for that.
>>344992295
Obscure MODERN prototype weapons, because the games take place in a what if future period usually.
So no, it's really not okay when you say you're going for an 'authentic' WW1 game to not have authentic WW1 firearms.
>>344989665
Look up the Spring Offensive my man. It started the mobile phase of the war in the west.
>>344987241
Remember when you asked someone to explain 'braindead'? You have a great example of it always on hand.
>>344994754
you're pretty dumb stupid. feeling like world war 1 is just anons shitty way of saying the aesthetic, maps, and equipment captured a world war 2 battle more realistically and accurately than battlefield represents a realistic world war 1 battle. and he's right so fuck you
>>344994767
I watched a 30 minute or so gameplay video, I didn't see anybody climbing into or out of the tanks, and I saw the guy pressing a button to fix his tank, not even after 30 seconds of not being in combat.
>>344991505
You know thomas jefferson had a rifle that could fire off 20 rounds in about 4 seconds right?
So hey, let's do a revolutionary war game and just make that the standard issue rifle. It existed back then, it worked!
>>344994357
Can we break your argument down?
1943 = good because it "felt like a ww2 game"
So now the questions arises, what do you consider a ww2 game? One that feels like real-life ww2? Because if so, 1943 isn't a ww2 game. Additionally, why does a game have to resemble another game or fit into some arbitrary mold for it to be "good"? What happened to originality?
>>344995373
I see what you are doing and it's silly that you would play this game instead of admitting defeat shill.
Adding a scope to a bolt action rifle effectively turns it into a sniper rifle. They were used as sniper rifles in the game.
There are no Standard issue bolt action rifles within the game without scopes. They are less standard issue rifles than sniper rifles.
>>344995202
it literally just lowers the resolution you fucking idiot. shadows and tesselation and fucking tree density dont just disappear from dialing down the resolution.
>>344995375
Mixed mode servers do. Its probably the most fun gamemode 2bh
>>344995513
>Obscure MODERN prototype weapons, because the games take place in a what if future period usually.
Fiction set in modern times = okay. Fiction set in the past = not okay. Got it.
>when you say you're going for an 'authentic' WW1 game
[citation needed]
>>344995513
Show me the WW1 prototype weapons. Oh wait you can't, because the only prototype weapon in the game predates WW1.
>>344995621
Ok sounds good. Let me know when it's ready to play.
Am I the only one who's hoping there'll an equivalent to operation metro/lockers in BF1?
Before you all shit on me, I only think they are good maps below 32 players. 20 is ideal. I just find modern DICE map design really boring, which is weird because my favorite maps back in the days were typically the largest ones (Fushee Pass, Darqin Oilfields, to give you an idea). But today, when all DICE can come up with is shit like Golmud Highway, I dunno. I'd rather just play infantry.
Pls no bully.
>>344995373
>>344995303
Scopes were not standard issue in WWI.
They existed, but they were almost never added to rifles or machine guns, because they weren't very reliable.
>>344984454
>graphic settings are a thing
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>344995862
>golmud
>not the best map in the game
>>344988312
>Implying bolt actions were the primary infantry weapons in WW2
Maybe for Russia and Japan, but most nations used semi-auto rifles as their main infantry weapon
>>344995678
>What happened to originality?
DICE made a game and said it was set in WW1 and they were striving for historical accuracy. it's the reason they removed female models. kill yourself the rest of your points are fucking stupid as well
Guys, there're people who say frostbite engine 1.5 (the one used in BC2) was the best, and the newer BF3 and BF4 feel too much like CoD games. Will BF1 be as bad, a very run-of-the-mill Battlefront experience with Battlefield skin?
>>344995678
>What happened to originality?
Dead like the men in the trenches, since bf3.
>>344995983
>and they were striving for historical accuracy
source?
>>344995845
>>344995814
Show me the smg in this game that had over 50k units produced.
Show me just one of those smgs that had over 50k units.
Because the mp18, the most popular and "legendary" smg that would become the basis for actual decent semi working SMGs in the future, only saw some 30k units produced throughout WWI
>>344995869
are you joking me m8?
Snipers played a huge role in WW1, especially in the trenches.
>>344988868
Kek
Underrated
>>344995678
There are varying degrees of accuracy. 1943 was more truthful to WW2 than BF1 is truthful to WW1. BF1 feels more like a WW2 game as a result. This isn't rocket science.
>>344995753
battlefield games have a lot of weapon unlocks. scopes are something that existed at the time, thus they are usable in a game that has many weapon unlocks. I'm not even going to buy the game I'm just not a fucking moron and I understand how battlefield games work
>>344995981
No you moron, the only naton that had a standard issue semi-auto was the U.S.
>>344995959
Bre. it's a flat, symmetrical, bore-fest. Where the fuck are the Kubra Dams of Battlefield 4? Maps with interesting landscapes, and verticality to give at least some cover to choppers?
>>344995981
>but most nations
Only the US had semi-auto rifles as a standard.
Germans and Soviets had them but only equipped them to storm troops and in limited numbers.
>>344996089
Yes, without scopes you retard.
Most snipers didn't use a scope in WW1
>>344996063
"Not used that much" =/= "prototype"
>it's a /v/ autismal babbies can't understand the difference between a game made for fun and a WW1 documetary episode
>>344996170
Some if the dlc maps do this, but fall short in other things. Also urban maps provide plenty of cover
>>344995546
>the aesthetic, maps, and equipment captured a world war 2 battle more realistically
But that is literally wrong. There's nothing in this gameplay that's even remotely close to how a WW2 battle would be fought. Also from a purely aesthetic stand point literally every item, vehicle, weapons, environment etc. existed during the area so that argument is bullshit.
>more realistically and accurately than battlefield represents a realistic world war 1 battle.
Let me guess, you think WW1 was primarily trench warfare right? It was only really a dominant tactic on the western front in the middle of the war. Towards the end of the war it resembled modern warfare more.
>>344996031
Absolutely anon
http://www.cnet.com/news/battlefield-1-interview-its-not-worth-stepping-on-peoples-memories/
>we have done extensive research into finding the authenticity and picked out the core gameplay pillars. One of those core gameplay pillars is perceived realism.
>It is that we base the game on authenticity,
>>344994179
The game portrays the Great War. An event that happened in Africa. That is why there are so many niggers in the game.
>>344990112
But Battlefield betas only show a portion of the content that will be in the full game anon. Yeah, they won't be changing mechanics, but that's not what the other guy was saying.
>>344996254
then what made them snipers?
>>344996310
It's just /pol/, ignore it.
>inb4 /pol/tard going ape-shit for being called out.
>>344996254
Most of them did. Snipers were the vain of soldiers trying to shit out of the trench.
>>344996305
Not used that much = almost any WW1 vet you could talk to would have not even realized it was a thing and would have never seen it.
>>344996428
Engaging at extremely long ranges while perceiving the wind conditions and drop off.
>>344996506
No, they didn't. Hell a big chunk of WW2 snipers didn't even use scopes either (though more did, because scopes were more reliable at that time).
>>344996508
Still not a fucking prototype and you'll be hard pressed to say that SMGs didn't make an impact.
>>344996615
Do you have a single fact to back your claims up?
>>344996352
forgot a pretty crucial quote there lad
>It is that we base the game on authenticity, and we extract those pieces to create a game, meaning that we don't get bogged down by history.
>we don't get bogged down by history.
>we don't get bogged down by history.
>we don't get bogged down by history.
>>344996170
Ironically enough the best BF3 map followed Golmuds layout though ditching air: Seine Crossing.
>>344996428
>snipers
Term used originally to refer to people who have killed a Snipe with a rifle. A Snipe is a kind of bird in India known for its speed and nimbleness.
Though don't believe the other anon. It took a while but by the middle of the conflict the term Sniper referred to sharpshooters using scoped rifles.
>this thread
Every year i hope /v/ will get better, but every year my hopes are dashed.
>>344996428
They shoot really fucking well and was trained in sniping schools.
But the way, to this anon, >>344996254, scopes were used quite often, but they were wonky and required a lot of time to get used to. Also snipers often hid their scopes during enemy advance, as being caught with one were a long and painful death sentence.
>>344995763
And lower resolutions make things harder to see...
>>344996726
Scrap that got shit mixed up.
>>344996662
Well for the WWII tidbit here's this, the most successful sniper of all time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
He didn't use a scope on his rifle because of the cold weather.
>>344992217
Damn you are dumb
>>344985226
Yes, old scopes are huge and shitty. You were basically sticking a telescope on a gun.
>>344996674
Where is BF1 authentic?
Bolt actions aren't used for their purpose
SMGs are a dozen times more reliable than they were, and far more accurate
LMGs can be fired from the hip reliably and only one of them in this game overheats from continued fire
How is it authentic?
>>344997093
you specifically said they were striving for historical accuracy, don't change the argument
>>344997093
Fuck off
I and the rest of /v/ are going to buy this game and enjoy it
You're on the wrong side of history, the no fun side. And probably the racist side too, I'm guessing you don't like this game because of the multi cultural truths it spreads.
>>344997093
authentic =/= realistic
>>344997209
They are.
Accuracy and authenticity are one in the same.
I didn't say they were trying to go for a simulator, I didn't expect them to.
But they were going for an authentic WW1 experience, and they failed horribly at that.
>>344997261
Where did I use the word realistic?
>>344997093
Let me translate the methodology behind BF1 in way way you can comprehend.
>Look through the history of WW1
>Find shit you think could be interesting in a game
>Collect those things together
>Use those elements to create a new experience
>Remove all the boring stuff.
Worked for every other battlefield game, works now.
>>344996932
>One sniper used no scope
>That means the majority of WWI and II snipers didn't use scopes
>>344997231
>I and the rest of /v/
No one wants your shitty BF4 reskin Dice
>>344997359
>Accuracy and authenticity are one in the same.
no they're not
authentic is an entirely nebulous term
all the weapons, vehicles and locations are from WW1 and that could easily be enough to say it's authentic
>>344997359
>Accuracy and authenticity are one in the same.
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>
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>>344997402
>Remove all the boring stuff.
Yea, like white people
>>344996754
What's wrong with this thread? BF1 will not be as good as BF2, but it sure as hell will btfo OW and steal players.
>>344996932
Simo Hiya was from the winter-war post ww1 idiot. Also the reason he didn't used scopes is that it gave off a glare in the white snow.
>>344983957
So can anyome confirm if British and Germam soldiers are forced to be black?
>>344995959
Yea Golmud fucking sucks
>>344997594
iirc there will be character customisation
>>344997594
There will be character customization in the full game, it's just locked in the alpha.
>>344997510
But it's not authentic.
Battlefield 3 and 4 are authentic.
The weapons work appropriately for what they are, share many real life statistic. Attachments work in ways you would expect them to in real life etc.
Sure there are some details that get exaggerated, and there's the issue of using guns not used by your military force, but the items in the game itself are relatively authentic.
That is not the case in BF1.
>>344995787
That's true... It's disappointing to not see more obliteration. Always thought it was fun
>>344997594
It's probably customization. As for the numbers in the alpha 3/6 of the British classes are white and 5/6 of the German classes are.
>>344997662
>>344997725
Can I customize away the female of peace in the campaign who probably never existed?
>>344997738
>The weapons work appropriately for what they are
yeah we all know GPMG's can be fired from the hip
>>344991505
Hello Ganjin
>>344997850
Yes, the ones in Battlefield 4 and 3 can be.
Have you ever actually shot an M60 (the one in both games that would probably have the biggest kick) in real life? It's totally possible to hip fire if you're not a lanky motherfucker, you just won't be accurate at all.
>>344997646
Idk, I like it. Balances the vehicles really well and you can still enjoy infantry if you know what you're doing.
>>344997738
>The weapons work appropriately for what they are, share many real life statistic.
As they do in BF1. All the weapons, vehicles and gadgets work similar to how they did in real life.
>Attachments work in ways you would expect them to in real life
As they do in BF1
>Sure there are some details that get exaggerated, and there's the issue of using guns not used by your military force, but the items in the game itself are relatively authentic.
Which is exactly the case for BF1. Everything in the game existed during the war in some form and some elements of the were exaggerated for gameplay.
>>344997838
There wont be female soldiers in the multiplayer. That's exclusive to the single player.
Game's okay, but fucking hell, there are like no bolt actions at all.
But graphically, it's great, also runs really well aside form memory leaks that pop up when you alt tab too much.
>>344998074
that logic also applies to BF1 then
>>344997795
>>344995787
I play it semi-constantly.
With Carrier Assault it beat Conquest with its shitty modern gameplay philosophy any day.
>>344998202
>Game's okay, but fucking hell, there are like no bolt actions at all.
>the only bolt actions are basically snipers
>its WW1 guys
people are excited for this why? they should have just made a WW2 game.
>>344998092
>As they do in BF1. All the weapons, vehicles and gadgets work similar to how they did in real life.
False
The SMGs in battlefield 1 have much slower muzzle velocities in real life. People have measured the general muzzle velocity in Battlefield 1 to be something like 1kft/s as it leave the barrel, then slows down from there. However, in real life, the mp18 only has a muzzle velocity of 380 ft/s.
Additionally, the effective range of the mp18 was only up to about 100m, and that was with careful aiming taken into account.
The tanks in the game, don't even get me started. Their fire rate is far higher, they take far more damage, they're far faster, and they somehow don't break down constantly in the game. Tanks were not used often in WW1 because they were trash that broke pretty much instantly.
>As they do in BF1
No, they don't. Scopes back then needed to be adjusted constantly because they would become out of line with the simplest of movements. There's a reason only snipers ever used telescopic sights, because they moved very very little. Even then the sights weren't completely accurate.
>>344998216
No, it doesn't.
A lewis gun would do a few things
1. It would burn your hand if you tried to hipfire it
2. It would potentially break your arm
3. It would have 0 accuracy at all
>>344996186
>>344996127
There were also SMG's and machine guns that were a lot more common, it wasn't just about rifles.
>>344998521
>The SMGs in battlefield 1 have much slower muzzle velocities in real life
BF has never had accurate bullet velocities, BF3 and 4 are in fact the worst perpetrators of this
>Their fire rate is far higher, they take far more damage, they're far faster
true of BF4 too
>Scopes back then needed to be adjusted
again this still applies
>>344998182
Yes, I'm wondering if I can customize those fictional soldiers out of the single player.
Because they didn't exist.
>>344998710
No smg in the war was common.
The most manufactured smg back then was the mp18, and that only hit 30k units by the war's end.
If you were invading another trench there were two things you used.
1. A bolt action.
2. A trenchgun (shotgun)
There was no fucking reason to use anything else. The first gives you accuracy, the second gives you devastating close range power.
>>344998758
>Yes, I'm wondering if I can customize those fictional soldiers out of the single player.
Because they didn't exist.
like this game is trying to be historically accurate at all, its literally ww2 with a ww1 skin.
>>344998521
>Additionally, the effective range of the mp18 was only up to about 100m, and that was with careful aiming taken into account.
The MP-18 is pissingly inaccurate, if you'd watched a single lets play you'd know this.
>The SMGs in battlefield 1 have much slower muzzle velocities in real life.
Practically all weapons muzzle velocity in BF3/4 was to slow.
>Their fire rate is far higher, they take far more damage, they're far faster
>>Sure there are some details that get exaggerated
From your own post this shouldn't be a problem.
>and they somehow don't break down constantly in the game.
Because randomly breaking down made round would make for fun gameplay.
>Scopes back then needed to be adjusted constantly because they would become out of line with the simplest of movements.
because that would make for fun gameplay.
From this post I can pretty much conclude that you don't know what you're talking about.
>>344998202
>there are like no bolt actions at all
aiming is too hard and they need the casuals money.
why do you think the "modern warfare" setting is so popular? it's basically auto fire-pray and spray-get awards for losing FUN
SHILLLLLSSSS GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>344998676
>1. It would burn your hand if you tried to hipfire it
wear a glove
>2. It would potentially break your arm
>3. It would have 0 accuracy at all
applies to modern GPMG's too
>>344995028
>Max speed: 7.4km/h
>>344998758
There's a theory going around based on leaked in game files that the female soldier is actually a woman who pretended to be a man so she could join the army, which actually happen somewhat often.
>>344998945
>The MP-18 is pissingly inaccurate, if you'd watched a single lets play you'd know this
That's the thing though
It shouldn't even be able to hit a soldier past 100m out. But it can on the first shot in this game. The rest of the shots will miss, but the first will hit, and that's not authentic at all.
>Practically all weapons muzzle velocity in BF3/4 was to slow.
Nah, a lot of it was pretty accurate actually.
>From your own post this shouldn't be a problem
Nothing exagerrated about it. Tanks were laughing stocks in the great war that did fucking nothing.
>Because randomly breaking down made round would make for fun gameplay.
They shouldn't even be in the game.
>because that would make for fun gameplay.
Which is why they shouldn't be in the game except as an ADDITION to some bolt action rifles, not standard issue.
>>344987635
Not including the superior BF1942 or BF Vietnam.
Shit tier list, please leave.
>>344999152
>Nah, a lot of it was pretty accurate actually.
this is objectively false except for pistol rounds
>>344998995
>wear a glove
>"Hi, I'm a retard that doesn't understand how fucking hot these barrels got back then"
Fuck off
>applies to modern GPMG's too
Except it doesn't apply to modern military lmgs in the slightest. The kick with an M60 even won't break your arm, it's a controllable kick. And while it will be inaccurate, the recoil will be somewhat controllable where you can target a general area with it.
The lewis gun is not the same. I have actually fired a lewis gun at the range before, it's hard to control the recoil while it's mounted on a tripod even.
Guys... you have Bad Company 2 right? Come play it, there are people playing it RIGHT NOW!
>>344999319
Some rifles went down from 900m/s to 650m/s, but that's about it. And even then, that's because bullets don't slow down in BF4, so it was to simulate the velocity across long distances.
That's a lot different than going from 350m/s to 1000m/s
>>344999152
>Tanks were laughing stocks in the great war that did fucking nothing.
This is literally a lie. Tanks were fucking terrifying to the Germans when they were first introduced and helped break many stalemates. There's a reason why every suddenly tried to make their own tank designs. Yes they broke down often but when they didn't they were extremely effective.
>yfw BF games have higher tickrate than OW
>>344999469
I wish people were still played BC2 Vietnam
that game was FUN! FUNNNN
>>344999659
They were the tipping point but barely.
Their main purpose was as moveable cover, that's literally it. They typically did not fire anti personnel explosives like later tanks did, they were very easy to get caught in ditches, and required a lot of manpower to even operate.
They were not moving death machines.
>>344999814
>>344997553
Dice please, no one is going to leave Overwatch for your generic shooter.
>>344998896
I'm talking about ww2 numbnuts. Read.
>>344999934
>no one is going to leave Team Fortress 2.5 for your Battlefield game
fixed
>>344999934
It would be great if overwatch cancer babbies stayed in overwatch.
>>344999934
>OW
>not a generic shooter
Lmao
Bf1 is at least somewhat original
>>344999859
Yet there were several attempts at making dedicated anti-tank weapons once they were produced. So what if they aren't the best compared to modern standards but at the time were extremely effective and fucking terrifying to the average soldier.
>>344998896
Follow the reply chain you filthy animal.
>>345000104
Thanks m8 needed a good laff, spit out my drink too.
>>345000204
Terrifying because it was MOVING COVER
The tank itself was not terrifying.
The things inside and behind the tank were terrifying.
>>345000104
>Bf1 is at least somewhat original
yeah in the sense that its a ww2 game in a ww1 setting with shittier weapons and vehicles.
>>345000240
>Implying OW isn't generic as fuck
how do you think it got so popular with normies?
>>344999934
>Overwatch
>basically TF2 with female cast and a monkey
>arena maps
>not generic
>BF1
>large maps
>tanks planes and boats
>blimps falling from the sky falling on people
>64 player battles
>generic shooter
overwatch fandom is the best
>>345000045
Regardless of how you phrase it, they won't.
It's like saying people were going to leave Dota for battleborn.
>>345000240
>I need to justify spending $40 for an f2p game
>>345000240
>cartoon poster
oh...
>>345000374
Battlefield games aren't generic anymore? What happened?
>>345000374
Remove the part about blimps and you just described about 30 different games.
>>345000363
Oh god when will the bait stop
>>345000329
>The tank itself was not terrifying.
Right, it's not because it's a big noisy box of moving metal that fires guns and you can't shoot through it that's moving slowly towards you. Nope, not terrifying at all.
>>345000374
>>345000365
Jesus Dice is getting desperate these days.
>>345000526
Humor me and provide a list
>>345000492
Overwatch and Battleborn came out and Battlefield games original by comparison.
>>345000620
this
>>345000492
Battlefield games haven't had things like horses, swords, blimps, unconventional vehicle designs and weapon designs before.
>>345000620
i've seen people comparing BF1 to Ace of Spades before so get ready for a chuckle.
>>345000530
How is it bait? there is nothing ww1 about the game besides the Biplanes
>>345000882
>Blimps
>Horses
>Swords
>Gas
>Unconventional tank designs
>Unconventional weapons
>All weapons, vehicles, gadgets existed at the time.
b8
>>344997409
>>344996662
>>344997587
You dont need a scope to have a "sniper" role, and scopes very expensive and rare, especially in WW1, not that many "snipers" could have them. More did in WW2, but not nearly all "snipers".
You can still have the sniper role of being having a hidden, alone position and sniping imporant enemy targets without having a scope on the rifle
>>345000620
Battlefield 1942, Battlefield Vietnam, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Battlefield bad company vietnam, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4 to start with.
MAG
Planetside
Planetside 2
Star wars battlefront
Star wars battlefront 2
Call of Duty United Offensive
Red Orchestra 2 (for tanks, admittedly no planes though)
Frontlines fuels of war
Halo CE (PC edition)
A bit closer to 20, but oh well.
>>344988214
>Bolt actions
But I don't want anything that's different than muh modern warfare! How can you have fun lining up precise shots with cool weapons that actually fit the goddamn time period??
>>345000874
Holy shit I shouldn't have read that while drinking fuck
>>345001153
>has all this really cool ww1 stuff
yeah you're right my point is it plays like a fucking ww2 shooter.
>>345000710
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 3
Battlefield 4
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty World at War
Warhawk
Angels Fall First
Renegade X
Arma 3
Arma 2
Arma 1
Operation Flashpoint
Red Orchestra 2
Planetside 1
Planetside 2
CoD UO
Battlefront 2
you guys really trying so hard to hate this game, huh?
the only thing I hate this game are black german and british and lack of french and russian
and I like to keep it that way
>>345001204
aw shit i knew this was gonna be good
>>345001352
>shooter plays like shooter
holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gI5JHbhmMo
>>345001407
not him, but how is he wrong?
>>345001217
>>>/Verdun/
>>345001204
>>345001383
>EA shills getting btfo
>Dice shills are actually here.
>>345001352
Because WW2 shooters are so different from modern shooters? They're fucking shooters, of course they're gonna play similar.
>>345001383
>>345001204
>a game is generic because it follows the footsteps of ITS OWN FRANCHISE and because a bunch of other games copy it
brilliant, just brilliant.
>>345001419
>we
Verdun is a squad based FPS. It's not like other FPS so it really doesn't count.
>>345001456
I think he means running around in more fast paced, close quarters combat with SMG's, semi-automatic rifles, lighter machine guns and also bolt action rifles rather than more "wave attack" 90% bolt action rifles with larger heavy machine gun teams maybe.
>>345001383
So you just provided a list of GOOD GAMES. Do you find it ironic that Overwatch is not on this list?
>>345001647
Most of those games suck though.
>>345001456
>automatic weapons fucking everywhere
Sure feels like ww1, doesn't it boss?
>>345001638
I thought verdun flopped or something? I could barely get any fun out of RO2, I can't imagine what verdun would be like.
>>345001459
There are some things that leave a resounding impression on a person despite how jaded they are most things.
This is one of them.
>>345001576
>Battlefield 1 is super original guys! Overwatch is just like so many other games but Battlefield 1 is one of a kind!
>No it's not
>Prove it!
>Okay
>Ha, that's not proof, those are copies, so their similarities don't count!
I'd love for you to explain to me how Arma, Red Orchestra, and United Offensive are copying Battlefield.
>>345001576
Well, yes. If the genre is well worn, it doesn't matter if it was the franchise that made it popular. Do you think Call of Duty isn't generic?
>>345001558
>>345001456
ww2 was full of automatic weapons, ww1 wasnt, BF1 everyone but snipers are going to be running around with some kind of automatic weapon or a shotgun, which is why I dont know why they bothered with a ww1 setting.
>>345001383
>>345001204
>every shooter made in the last 15 years with vehicles is the same as bf1
O am I laffin
>halo
>>345001706
>lists games with either emphasis on objectives or base vs base elements
>cod player here tells me they suck
>prefers TDM games
yeah I can see why
>>345001638
Good description of BF1942.
>>345001558
not really, Red orchestra 2 tries to have a more realistic approach with mostly bolt action rifles and that combined with other mechanics in the game makes it play pretty differently from say Battlefield , call of duty.
>>345001576
>>345001808
The funny thing is, the suppression mechanic that Dice threw into Battlefield 3 was actually copied off of Red Orchestra 2
>>345001849
because slow paced games like verdun + trenches are fucking sore and boring. The theme is good if not entirely realistic, it could be alternate reality / different world WW1
>>345001861
yes, and BF1, which is probably why he said it felt like a WW2 shooter
>>345001754
> I could barely get any fun out of RO2
maybe because you're autistic and need flashy game play action? everyone has their tastes sure but RO2 and RO1 are both great.
>BF 1942
>Every one has a side arm when in reality only officers had.
>BAR has no recoil and operates like a modern assault rifle.
>Sturmgewehr 44 in a battle in 1940.
>Russian troops uses the same weapons as the allied.
>Sub machine guns are more widespread than rifles.
>only engineers uses bold-action rifles
>Machine guns are only stationary.
I could go on all day. Still a great game.
>>345001849
>ww2 was full of automatic weapons
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
>>345001861
WW2 had more machine guns than WW1
>>345001853
The requirements were
>large maps
>vehicle warfare
>64 player battles
And all of those fit
>>345001754
jesus christ what a pathetic existence
>>345001853
All of those games have large maps, tanks, planes, and boats, and 64 player battles
>>345002017
Will play bf1942 anyday over RO2
>>345001754
>I thought verdun flopped or something?
It's niche, meaning it will never have call of duty numbers. It has a playerbase that's roughly the same as RO2.
Does anyone else think they should remove tanks and planes from the battlefield games?
They're too OP and get in the way of infantry and one person can't even take them down
>>345002145
I wouldn't
Guns in RO2 are just incredibly satisfying. Bolt actions in other games just don't feel right anymore.
>>345001959
>because slow paced games like verdun + trenches are fucking sore and boring
No? If you dont like slow trench warfare why the fuck would you bother with any ww1 setting? The theme for BF1 is stupid because the way its played with a ww1 skin slapped over everything, a modern BF1942 would have been much better if thats the case.
>>345002005
No they're not. Arma games are better, I'm sure there are WW themed arma mods with actual vehicular combat also.
>>345002032
And yet they were still rare in WW2.
>>345002029
Compared to ww1, absolutely. It wasn't like modern times but automatic weaponry was MUCH more common, there's no way you can deny that.
>>344983957
It got boring after a week once I got used to WW1 setting and the gimmicky airship.
Also, probably the lowest skill ceiling battlefield yet with the incredible amount of spread on every gun. More so than CS.
>>345002232
>No they're not. Arma games are better,
what a retarded assertion
>>345002232
Arma is too janky
Even a patched Arma feels like a launch RO2, and that's not a good thing.
>tfw this read like a WoT thread
They could have the same research team desu.
>>345002218
>They're too OP and get in the way of infantry and one person can't even take them down
git gud scrub
>>345002250
A soldier had better access to Machine guns in WW2 than in WW1.
>>345002029
>Sure, keep telling yourself that.
I didnt mean like everyone and their mother had some kind of automatic but they were as rare as in ww1
>>345002159
Nobody was talking about CoD here. Maybe the BF3 and BF4 have some of the CoD elements, but the original BF games were better. And yes I rather play a good game than a bad game. If you're going to make a online shooter, you can't use excuses "oh but it's niche". That's like saying Battleborn is still good game even though it only has 300 players playing it.
>>345002347
Or in this case, git a team since there is nothing you can do solo.
>Small 2 tonn tank smashes a wall going 1 mph.
Well done Dice well done...
HOWEVER
>>344983957
I'll buy it once I finish my build. Looks beautiful and fresh, not just a WW2 shooter reskin.
>>345002250
>they were still rare in WW2.
German infantry attacked and moved based on support they had from MG42 attached to their platoon or squad. It was called Hitler's buzzsaw for fucks sake, it was everywhere.
>>345002417
weren't*
The funniest thing about WW1 smgs is that they were only ever given to officers (if the officers chose to take one over a trench gun, which most didn't) who never even saw the front lines.
The only WW1 soldiers that made it out alive that even saw the smgs were the ones that successfully invaded an enemy trench and killed an officer or saw an officer killed who was holding one.
>>345001808
>arma
Super realistic Mil sim
>ro2
Realistic ww2 game
>united offensive
2004 cod expansion
>bf1
Casual battlefield game, prominently featuring large maps and a wide selection of vehicles - air, ground, and sea - for varied gameplay. Ww1 setting but uses "fringe" guns which were available at the time, albeit rarely used to keep fast paced gameplay.
>>345002303
Because arma lets you A) mod the game B) engine is better C) doesn't pay like "made for and ONLY for hardcore mil sim enthusiasts" when trying to compete in online shooter genre.
>>345002468
*5 cents has been added to your bank account*
>>345002270
"Much more" is a dumb assertion when 90% of soldiers were still running around bolt actions. If BF1's gameplay was transferred to a WW2 theme it would still be extremely fucking inaccurate.
>>345002428
>that lack of reading comprehension
>that conception that more players = higher quality
are you intentionally being stupid?
>>345002428
>Nobody was talking about CoD here.
I was just bringing it up to describe player count, chill out autist.
> If you're going to make a online shooter, you can't use excuses "oh but it's niche".
You certainly can when it still has a decent playerbase. It will never have the player count of Call of Duty or Battlefield because it is by definition niche.
>>345002574
All four of those games
>large map vehicular warfare with 64 players competing to control different points on the map
Wow, Battlefield 1 is so unique!
>>345002228
It could be alternate reality WW1, set in world where different actions took place / with different tech / different strategists. Ultimately game should be fun / game enticing gameplay.
>>345002038
>>345002086
Yet that makes battlefield "generic"? Anyone who's played those games can tell you there is a clear, huge difference between arma and battlefield.
Also halo did not have 64p
>>345002232
Arma games are fun but they are buggy and janky as shit, I love Arma3 for a modern military sim but its not the running bayonet charging and shouting fun that RO2 is.
>comparing compressed youtube footage of an already compressed video to high res downsampled promo screenshots
Just imagine the bullshots with more aliasing and less sharpness and you'll get the final result, unless you are on a 1080 which in that case you'll get bullshot quality
>get in alpha
>literally no bolt actions except for snipers
>every class has full automatics or semi autos that perform as well as modern ones
>pistols have spread so high that you can't hit someone 5ft in front of you
>once the losing team gets the zeppelin, they all camp on top of it, accelerating their loss because they aren't capping points
What the fuck were DICE thinking? Fuck this shit, I want my WWII back.
>>345002593
Yeah, whatever. I just wanna play some casual shootan that isn't CoD or Overwatch. The WW1 setting looks interesting and hasn't been done many times.
>>344983957
Automatic guns and fucking lever action rifles with the same rate of fire of a m1a1 carbine.
Same gameplay as other modern battlefields so it's shit
>>345002805
Battlefield 1 is about as unique to its genre as Call of Duty Infinite Warfare is.
Please, try and prove me wrong here.You can't
so can you drive whatever you want whenever you want or is it like battlefront
>instead of making bolt action rifles reload just a little bit faster....
>Instead of compromising and only having 1 class get a smg or mg and then the others get an semi-automatic
>instead of finding a reasonable approach, those cucked Swedes got lazy and ported a BF4 map and reskinned the weapons.
>>345002579
>C) doesn't pay like "made for and ONLY for hardcore mil sim enthusiasts" when trying to compete in online shooter genre.
you seriously lack self-awareness, it's embarrassing
>mod the game
>engine is better
wow amazing points
guess those RO2 mods I've been playing on the stable, easily malleable UE3 were just all an illusion
think before you speak, for the love of god
>>344991252
You forgot the Hotchkiss M1914
>53 lb 11 oz
>Also imply a man could run around hip firing a 50 pound machinegun
Another thing is most the machineguns you just named are light machine guns meant for mobility except for the Vickers which was probably never used handheld and was almost always mounted.
>>345002787
if thats the fucking case they should have just made it more steampunky and gave people walking steam mechs and shit with automatic weapons and not its ww1 with holosights and smgs
>>345002912
>ported a BF4 map and reskinned the weapons.
>I know literally nothing about the game: the post
>>345002664
I think you brought CoD to belittle BF when they're two very different games. Your tone is clear indication of that. You either don't like BF games or never had good enough rig to enjoy them during their prime. I feel bad for you, because the massive battles on bf1942 were some of the best.
>>345002593
>me everyone that disagrees with me is a paid shill
This place is becoming more and more like /pol/
>>345002849
Yea, I'm starting to get the memo that Dice / EA employees are hired to attack Overwatch while praising BF1, I'll be sure to take note of that for future BF1 praise.
>>345002849
There are a million casual shootan games out there you can play. This is realistically there is only 1 WW1 shooter out there and it has the shitty Squad based format.
>>345002849
Verdun is a game that does the WW1 setting some justice.
This is not.
>>345003021
>Complaining about shills means you are /pol/.
This is how I know you are new.
/v/ has always complained about shills. Since 2010 when it became popular to do so.
Please go back to facebook or tumblr or whatever cancer pit you came from.
>>345003009
>I think you brought CoD to belittle BF when they're two very different games.
I brought it up solely to give an idea of playercount, since it's probably the most popular online shooter today, with Battlefield coming in second.
>You either don't like BF games or never had good enough rig to enjoy them during their prime.
What? Are you seriously projecting this shit? Chill out anon. You're swinging at shadows.
>>345002916
Is there finnwar mod for RO2?
Is there korean war mod for RO2?
I never cared too much about RO2 too much because it doesn't play like a video game, but the little I got to see it mostly it was small maps. Of course I can understand if one has never played a large BF1942 map then it's understandable you would defend this.
>>345003003
You know you don't have to go extreme wacky fiction or milsim realism right? There is a middle ground you know.
>>345003008
>>345003008
>I know literally nothing about the game: the post
There's no reason to greentext how you don't know anything about the game anon. It's quite simple really.
>>345003021
What the fuck
He wasn't even talking about race, we wuz, or any of that shit.
If anything you just convinced me you are a shill because that seems like a pretyped response to someone calling you one.
>>344983957
Ehh, it's okay.
It's BF4 but with a WWI skin.
>>345003289
>I never cared too much about RO2 too much because it doesn't play like a video game
>>345003310
Every single person having a rare prototype weapon that may or even may had not ever been used isn't much of a middle ground.
>>345003242
nah man I'm having a laff
>>344984454
Would planes have been able to reliably manoeuvre like that?? Seems very quick
>>345002574
>Super realistic Mil sim
>Realistic ww2 game
It's fun seeing fat nerds thinking they know a thing about war.
>>345003310
>You know you don't have to go extreme wacky fiction or milsim realism right? There is a middle ground you know.
Yeah I know but it still would have been a better game.
The setting, models, skins etc feel like WW1/WW2, but the game plays like a watered down BF4.
>>345003438
laffs are serious business, don't scare me like that
>>345003328
Okay smart ass, how about some proof behind your statement.
What map did they port over from BF4? What specific weapons did they port over from BF4? You can compile your data, I'll wait.
>>345003242
Nah, Battlefield now comes in 3rd after Overwatch.
Dice couldn't even hold 2nd place.
>>345002738
>arma
>controlling points
>ro2
>controlling points
>large emphasis on vehicles
The fact that you're trying to claim these as being similar in any way makes me think you're baiting and I should stop replying
>playing any battlefield game post 2006
>>345003459
No, they were far slower in real life.
>>345003507
Projection
>>345003425
It's more of a middle ground than using things that straight up didn't exist.
>>345003574
You do control points in RO2.
>>344984789
>nigger hands
WE
>>345003587
They've sadly been on downfall. But I feel they've never been replaced by any other game.
>>345003678
WUZ
>>345002869
Provide examples of games that make battlefield 1 non-unique please
>>345003568
>mk5 reskinned to look like a Luger
>China rising with trains.
>>345003745
GERMANS
>>345003587
Well the best one was released 2010
Do I have to play an Abo when I go scout in BF1?
Can I not choose skins?
>>345003813
The setting or the gameplay style?
I can do either. Obviously can't do both, but that line of reasoning can be used on any game ever.
>>344988443
If you weren't such a fucking idiot you'd know that the weapon-types in BF1 are almost the exact same as in 1942. The only non-sniper class bolt-actions in the game are the German and British variant of the engineer class. All other engineers get semi-autos/semi-auto shotguns and all other classes besides anti-tank (which only get a pistol) have automatics.
>>345003835
This explains why boateng is black
>>345003835
So u be sayin we wuz bismark an shieettt?
>>344988312
Semi or full automatic shoulder-fire weapons weren't uncommon in WWII. You could count on your hand how many were used in WWI.
>>344988214
See Verdun.
>>344988806
There are 4 classes with 3 using semi or full auto weapons as their primary weapon.
>>345003224
>I don't have a response to a reasonable statement of how people are eager to cry shill on /v/ so I'll post an anime girl, call you a newfag, and tell you to go back to x normie social media website
Perfect
>>345004008
>WW1 units get same automatics as WW2 game
You are really really not helping your cause.
>>345003820
>China rising with trains.
Confirmed you know literally nothing, Have a good day.
>>345003658
I don't know anything about war, that's why I don't go around claiming what's realistic and what's not.
Having more options and making it harder to control doesn't make it an ''epic ultra realistic hardcoar'' simulator.
>>345000329
>a big metal box with 57mm guns on it isn't terrifying
jesus christ mate
you're retarded
you're arguing for autheticity, yet I bet any WW1 veteran would authentically tell you that they were fucking terrified at the authentic thought of an authentic metal box with big guns on it coming towards them- authentically, of course.
>>345003927
You can in the full game.
>only bolt action rifle in game is a sniper rifle.
I guess we've all been playing WW1 shooters this entire time guys!
So how historically accurate are the guns?
I can't imagine casual kids playing without full auto.(i knownthere were some full auto guns back then)
>>345004035
http://steamcharts.com/app/242860
I'm not sure if I want to play online shooter with that small peak playerbase
http://steamcharts.com/app/394230 even had better
>>345003407
He wasn't even responding to my post, I'm trying to point out how fucking stupid and annoying "le paid shill" meme gets especially when its spammed everywhere and used instead of an argument
>>345003927
Yeah, there's apparently several faces to choose from in the game files.
http://imgur.com/a/svdts
>>345003289
lol you have clearly played VERY little of ro2, and seemingly nothing of ro1. this is coming from a forgotten hope vet that still plays today. fucking moron.
>>345004118
Same weapon types anon. Weapon types. Read.
>>345004234
out of 450,000 Australian soldiers, less than 1000 were aboriginal and something like ~100 actually served in combat roles
DICE is having a fucking laugh, and rewriting history with this game
>>345004118
>WW1 units get same automatics as WW2 game
He literally never said that. All the weapons are era appropriate, he's saying the AMOUNT of semi-autos and machine guns is similar.
>>345004112
>I literally have no fucking clue about the history of this board because I came here 2 weeks ago but I will tell you to fuck off back to /pol/ for exposing me as a shill.
If you were here yesterday or 10 years ago people would still call your faggot ass a shill.
>>345004283
Regardless of playerbase, Verdun shows a WWI trench warfare game is viable.
>>345004224
Do you know how many tanks were made in WW1?
Because any living vet probably didn't know there were tanks in existence until after the war probably.
Can't ask them now though, DICE decided to wait to butcher history until after all the WW1 vets were dead.
>>345004124
>Ignores other point.
>He literally didn't even play BF4.
So in the absence of knowledge you pretend to know. Quite slick.
>>345003507
ARMA markets itself as a mil sim
RO2 markets itself as being "realistic"
Are they in reality? Of course not, no video game can ever simulate war realistically. Stop using ad hominems and nitpicking
>>345004296
It's not a fucking /pol/ thing though.
/v/ has had legitimate paid shills in the past, and I'm getting really bad marketing vibes about this game due to posts like yours.
I was going to pre-order, but this desperation has made me reconsider honestly.
>>345004252
All the guns in the game existed at the time. Many of them weren't used by military in high numbers though.
>>345001459
>Comments are disabled
But of course...
>>345004378
It's
literally
still
not
helping
his
cause
>>345004342
Not many people care about RO2. You can do much more with arma / turn it into different game if you want. I basically love games with big maps and vehicles, which the RO2 I played had none or very little. Ever played C&C Renegade or Crysis 1 mp? I like those games.
>Master Gunnery Sergeant
There was no such fucking rank in WW1, and there is still no rank outside of the US with that designation
Fucking EA and fucking DICE.
>>345004252
Real but their actual usage varies from prototypes to small level or very late usage.
I know the hype train twitch generation is going to fight this but BF1 is just not fun. Same feeling I got with Battlefront. Just watered down Battlefield gameplay with a WWI skin/setting.
>>345004370
¿¿¿¿¿There are no Aussies or abos in the game?????
>>345004451
It's an online shooter only milsim people play. If possible I want to stay as far as possible from those games.
>>345004529
I played china rising and there's not a single map the playes similarly to St. Quintens Scar. You made the claim, you have to provide the proof.
>Ignores other point.
Luger is semi-automatic only, reload functions differently etc. I don't even have to go into stats to prove you wrong.
>>345004672
so basically your problem is you cant get into the setting of ww2 where it was mostly city fighting and you had to fight for every foot.
>>345004559
Yeah these guys are fucking shills.
Not even autists would do this amount of mental gymnastics for free.
>ignore issues
>reflect,deflect
Even people who ironically pretended to shill for Microsoft would break character, these guys are staunch in defending their shitty WW2 reskin.
I was hyped as fuck when this came out. Now I see it for what it is.
>>345004794
Forget about the playerbase, its about showing how a game using trench warfare can be done. Think of it as nothing more than a proof of concept.
>>345004878
I did enjoy BF1942 big battles with submarines / aircraft carriers + invasion on a island if that makes sense?
>>345004435
Can you into reading comprehension? Have you ever been to /pol/? You would understand if you had
But no, keep calling me a newfag, I love listening to broken records
>>345004464
>butcher history
Give me a call when anyone bases fucking history off a battlefield title
>>345004672
>Not many people care about RO2.
so what, shit for brains?
>You can do much more with arma / turn it into different game if you want.
same with gmod, in fact modded arma shares a lot more in common with gmod, and both are turds inhabited by mental defectives.
>I basically love games with big maps and vehicles
wow what sophisticated criteria, are you 12 or something? why aren't we discussing GTAV instead?
nigga I don't give a shit what you liked. RO2 in terms of map design, asset quality (from animations to vehicle interiors), and the general meta of the game, is excellent. it may not have a high player base, but for the person bringing up bf1942, you should know that these games have groups that get together and play on weekends. not only does ro2 have some impressively large maps, it's specifically set in stalingrad, and so some of the maps are also smaller, urban combat zones.
>>345004910
It's game only certain people play, when with little sacrifice much more people could enjoy it.
>>345004783
There are, the Black dude with the Slouch Hat and cape represents Australia. (He's an Abo in the Alpha version)
>>345004970
1942 wasn't a somewhat realistic ww2 game though.
>>345004559
If this makes you not preorder, thank god. Fuck preorders. I'm personally not buying this shit until i know its not another bf4 at launch
>>344983957
No I didn't and I am pissed. I destroy everyone in BF4 and actually play the objective and am always on top 3. Anyone have an alpha code willing to give up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnDms8tuio
>>345004864
>It plays nothing similar.
You are quite autistic or quite getting paid to ignore. I don't think you know what reskin even means.
Also machine pic relate.
>Have Mk5
>Reskin it to mp18
>They even have similar fire rates
>>345004891
Fuck I wasn't aware you could reskin major military conflicts? Is this some new technology that's being kept from us? Hot damn
>>345005091
Yeah but RO2 is missing so much of the stuff WW2 had. Where are the planes and boats? Infantry combat only? No thanks.
>>345005091
>RO2 in terms of map design
>excellent
I love the game, but come on now. Map design is the worst fucking part.
>>345005340
You know you're doing exactly what he's talking about.
>>345005189
Who knows? Certainly not /v/ because nobody here is war veteran. And why care? These is vidya, not history. It's entertainment.
>>345004983
I can obviously see you love broken records because you keep repeating the same thing even if its wrong.
Have you even been on old /v/? Of course not because they complained about shills. Which is what I'm doing.
But because you are so new you had no idea of knowing that. Therefore it is safe to assume you are a new cancer who didn't even bother to lurk or even slightly catch up on the culture of this board.
Please fuck off and fucking die shill.
>>345004672
RO2 is still the best FPS shooter of the last 5 years that I have played, brutal, unforgiving and super team based.
Heroes of the West is a fucking sweet MOD as well, if the server has it
Shits great
>>345005340
>Fuck I wasn't aware you could reskin major military conflicts?
It's pretty easy, just look at Battlefield 1.
>>345005082
Give me a call when a huge chunk of our WWI armed forces were black.
>>344988573
you can say the exact thing about a ww2 game
>>345005376
>Yeah but RO2 is missing so much of the stuff WW2 had.
are you dumb or baiting?
>Missing planes and boats
Air support was not a common thing in ww2
Boats didn't go onto land
>>345005481
>I can obviously see you love broken records
>Have you even been on old /v/?
>they complained about shills
>Which is what I'm doing.
>broken records
>>345005561
lmao stay mad, irrelevant /pol/cuck
HOLD UP /v/
Will any game ever try 128 player games like MAG did way back when??
BF1 would benefit from such a shitfest imo
>>345005505
>Heroes of the West is a fucking sweet MOD as well, if the server has it
thats out? ill try it later
>>345005561
http://imgur.com/a/svdts
You have different skins for all classes.
>>345005629
Air support was not common thing in ww2? But that's how they supported Africa.. That's the ONLY way they supported Africa. That's also ONLY way US managed to come Europe.
Man, talk about baiting hard..
>>345005653
>''Hey guys I'm new! lol xD >>>/pol/!'
I'm sorry you are butthurt and upset about being called out on being a cancer and all.
Why don't you go somewhere more safe like facebook and tumblr where you came from?
>>345005320
>No china rising map has the same level of destruction
>China rising has no urban combat.
>Spread is different
>Recoil is different
>MP18 is a lot less useful at range
Try again m8.
>>345005673
Will any game ever try 128 player games like MAG did way back when??
I fucking hope so, and if they do make a game like that it just needs to be full co-op starship troopers were we all go around killing fucking bugs.
>>344999054
balance>realism
>>345005819
not the guy you earlier post quoted, but maybe you should drink some milk and wash your teeth before going to sleep Benjamin?
>>345005765
>Air strikes =/= Air support
>>345005673
I don't know man. Tribes 2 had 128 players on fucking dial up. I don't get why they don't at least make the attempt.
>>345005726
it's a pain, and every playing has to have the MOD, but shit if you get a full 64 player server, it turns the base game into the best multiplayer FPS ever made
crazy
>>345005921
Germany used big air transport plane to transport troops, equipments and tanks to africa. They were rare but they were the only reason they could stay in there.
>>344983957
Battlefield 2142>ALL
What happened to this franchise man.
>>345005673
Fucking MAG, where the lag was terrible and machine gunners were better at sniping than snipers
Still fun af with 128 players
>>345004612
So something I never said and that you're dumb ass misinterpreted doesn't help my cause?
>>345006063
Consoles.
>>345002569
>what are stromtroopers
>>345005908
>Not that guy.
Hello that guy. But perhaps you should actually.......
actually........
actually......... read up about history of /v/ before you spout dumb retarded things. Saying /v/ never complaining about shills is probably one of the dumbest things someone can post on /v/.
/v/ complaining about shills long before /pol/ was even a board. /v/ complained about shills even before /new/ was created to get nuked. Of course ''that guy'' would had known if he would had been here or lurked.
>>345005673
DICE are way too terrified of rocking the boat after the BF4 became the worst launch to a game in history
I swore to never buy another game from them after it took 3 months for them to patch a game breaking problem that affected millions
not to mention BF4 is the worst game in the series by a fucking massive margin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_323
This kept Germans in Africa, they would've lost it instantly without this.
>>345006051
are you autistic? your point was there were no playable planes or boats in RO2 and that it was only infantry combat are you saying you want to fly a transport plane?
