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Where were you when the Overwatch hitbox meme died?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=N-aQTmb6QpI
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Fucking finally. 60tick servers next
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Maybe people will stop playing this useless faggot
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Thank fuck
People that actually have to aim will either enjoy the update or hate it
All we need is better servers now
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>>344939678
From my experience so far NOBODY has played Hanzo in PTR at all.

Although that could just be because of the new Support Sniper.

Meanwhile Zenyatta and Dva being used constantly and being credits to team, fuck yes.
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>>344939107
Fucking finally.

servers when
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>>344939852
Zenyatta is going to be the new Reaper \ Mcree, if you run into him you are 100% dead unless your a tank.
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this looks like they made the hitboxes smaller instead of just adding a fucking los check for headshots

so basically projectile characters are fucking garbage now
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>>344940591
not if you can aim well
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>>344940675
your an idiot

it's now harder to get headshots with projectiles than it is with hitscanw weapons AND projectiles do lower dps overall.

lmbo
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>>344940591
Honestly this. In conjunction with the mccree buff, hitscan will absolutely dominate games at high levels.
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>>344940461
What? What happened to zenyatta? Is he better now?
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>>344940591
>Hitboxes actually fit the model
>wow how the fuck am I gonna hit people now?
Git gud

>>344939656
This will probably be implemented soon. Blizzard said they just needed more people to test it in custom games before they put it everywhere.
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>>344940876
200 health, 150 of which is shield
4x faster orb travel speed (harmony and discord, not offensive orbs)
Ult now doubles zenyatta's speed and does 1.5x more healing at 300 hp/s
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>>344940902
why "git gud" when you can just put your crosshair on a head and press the button and do more damage even assuming the idiot who chose to play a projectile character can perfectly lead his targets and read their minds?
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Deleeeete
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Cheers loves, I'm INVINCIBLE NOW
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>>344939852
So what did they do with D.Va?
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>>344941168
You probably cant do either judging by your 'arguments'

t. Person who values his own time
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>>344939107
Oh fuck

Overwatch is going from casual garbage to competitive masterpiece

This is really nice to know
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so they reduced the hitbox but did they buff the characters to make up for it?

or are characters like hanzo and mei strictly worse now? They hardly saw competitive play as it is
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>>344941263
Reworked her matrix.
>cooldown reduced to 1 s
>is now a toggle ability with charge that depletes while in use, maximum sustain of 4 s, bound to secondary fire by default
Reworked her ult.
>detonates after 3 s instead of 1
>no longer kills D.Va

There may have been something else I'm missing, but that's what I recall.
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>>344941263

Ultimate now explodes after 3 second instead of 4 and doesn't hurt her.

Defense Matrix now has a Pharah-Jet style meter instead of a 4 second activation.
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>>344941508
They are strictly worse. I don't see why anyone is happy about this, especially since the fabled "hanzo mains" are even more useless now.
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>>344941514
>detonates after 3 s instead of 1
instead of 4**
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>>344941508
yeah, hanzo, mei, zenyatta, lucio, torborn, out of armor d.va, mercy, and genji have basically been kicked in the fucking teeth because of this. they already did overall less dps even assuming they did land their headshots and now they aren't going to be landing nearly as many headshots.
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i thought the hitboxes were meant to be shit and forgiving to promote the game's strategy and team play as opposed to mechanical prowess such as aiming and APM

guess they just fucked up
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>>344941732
well, that's a good thing. the headshots do a ton of damage and end things very fast. This is probably not what blizzard wants their fights to be like.

Also coming from cs, I myself feel pretty guilty playing torbjorn or hanzo. I should not be getting that many headshots. Just my personal feelings, but it's why I do feel glad the hitboxes were corrected.
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>>344941052
>200 health, 150 of which is shield
Thank god.
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>It took them this long to fix
SIMPLE GEOMETRY
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>>344942116
Now he can take 1 extra bullet. Great.
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>>344941987
hitscans do headshots too, and much more easilly, and do higher dps on average even before headshots.

the really funny thing is all blizzard needed to do is a put a simple ray trace los check in for projectile weapons and leave the boxes like they are and shit would have been fixed.

but this is blizzard and blizzards idiot fucking fanbase so it was only a matter of time before they did something to fuck the game up bad.
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>>344942147
>tf2 still has garbage hitboxes and hit detection
Loving every laugh.
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>>344941514
If the matrix is moved to rmb is there a new e ability?
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>>344942218
Only bad news is they're considering bringing it down to 175.
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>>344942321
Not currently
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>>344941732

The large hitbox thing is annoying, but yeah, you're right, the change makes a lot of already-shitty heroes considerably shittier.
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>>344941514
Doesnt it deplete while people are attacking the matrix not if its just toggled on?

also recharging the matrix from 0 to full is 10 secs
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>>344942218
dunno why you're trolling. He can't get bodied anymore by the simplest of things. Everyone aims for the zenyatta when they see him because its such a quick kill that its considered a safe move, and not overextending at all.

>>344942257
Call me crazy but it felt a lot easier getting headshots with projectiles
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it's only annoying if you don't understand game design.

the real annoying thing is hitting people in the head around corners with projectiles, and fixing that is as easy as a single line of code
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>>344942572
I main Roadhog and I know how quickly 600HP can be torn down in seconds. So the extra 50HP doesnt mean much to me.
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Ya they're making slim characters like Genji and Tracer even harder to hit.
This is gonna fuck the game up hard
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>>344942572
it wasn't any easier or harder, the size of the hitboxes between the two weapon types made it pretty balanced, with hitscan doing higher dps and projectiles largely ignoring damage falloff. This change will fuck that balance all out of proportion.
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60 TICK OR HIGHER SERVERS WHEN FUCKING ONE GOOD THING CANT END HERE!?
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A friend of mine watched the Q & A with ster and he mentioned they may revert the Mercy damage buff back to 30% because it made Mccree too strong. I hope that isn't the case because fuck that faggot cowboy.
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>>344942564
It depletes while active, regardless if it's being attacked
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Shouldn't they have fixed the fucking hitboxes in the alpha and/or beta stages, before curling this steaming pile of shit out for 11 million players to eat up?

I got it recently and have been playing a bit, and I really do not see the appeal of this game at all. It feels like a fucking F2P shooter.
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>>344942818
but it does mean much to a hero that only has 150hp and shit mobility mate
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>>344942818
The roadhog combo is pretty goddamn overkill for a zenyatta. Whenever I play roadhog I dont really enjoy hooking zenyattas as I know thats one combo I just wasted on a 150 hp hero that any of my other teammates could have very easily wasted themselves. Now, the 50 hp buff bumps the hook combo on zenyatta into 'appropriateness'
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>>344942968
NEVER
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>>344940902
>Blizzard said they just needed more people to test it in custom games before they put it everywhere.
...why the fuck would they need people to test higher tick servers? thats a load of bull if ive ever seen it.
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reminder that the difference between a 20 tick "server" and a 60 tick "server" is roughly 33 milliseconds, or two frames at 60fps
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>>344944516
reminder that it still means a lot when pinpoint accuracy and movement is key.
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>>344944741
that screenshot isn't even close to an accurate depiction of the difference between the two.

but i guess as long as it makes you feel better or whatever
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>>344944516
I wonder what shitters will blame for their incompetency after the hitbox change and if 60 gets implemented
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>>344942848
>people actually arguing FOR bad hitboxes and getting hooked or arrowed around corners
Top fucking kek
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>>344944516
I don't give a fuck if it's one frame or if it's 12miliseconds

I paid $60 for this fucking shit the least they can do I have some actual servers
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>>344944969
no ones arguing for getting hit around corners, people are instead pointing out that the fix for the problem is an los check rather than a sweeping change to the size of every hitbox in the game that will invariably upset game balance for the worse
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>>344941514
Her ult also charges 15% faster, according to patch notes.
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>>344943043
I don't get why they want to make McCree do S76's job.
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>>344945680
Thats way too many buffs.
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>>344945843
>Thats way too many buffs.
No it isn't because her critbox is still massive and her guns still do piss for damage after 5 feet of distance while having to move slow as molasses while firing.
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>>344942309
only with the huntsman and flamethrowers
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>>344945843
Not really. She needed it. Now she's usable. Not great. Just usable.
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>>344944241
It crashes the game on some PCs desu.
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What is reddit reaction to this??
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>>344939107
great now reduce mercy's buff to 40% instead of 50% it makes characters like mecree one shot anyone with 200hp
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>>344946174
DOLA EX IS A DOCUMENTARY
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>>344946667
They said they gonna try lowering it back to 30 for the next PTR patch
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>>344939107
>people think this change is going to make it to live
lmao, too many babies will cry about not hitting as hanzo and theyll keep it the same
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>>344947281
I still think 40% is the best alternative since her ult build up was nerfed but at least they acknowledge that 50% was too much
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>>344939107
can we now talk about how it's bullshit that Hanzo gets an instant killshot as long as touches the bowstring? if Widowmaker has to charge up to get a full dmg headshot, that fucking chink should too.
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>Tracer and D.VA are not impossible to hit.

Jesus christ.
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>>344940876
He's basically back to where he was in the beta by being OP as fuck and being able to 1v1 every class.

You just know he's going to get overnerfed after this.
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>>344942364
>Hero Stacking

How about you tell people to fuck off and limit them to two heroes? Going up against six Torbjorns is only fun for them and annoying af for everyone else.
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>>344945996
Although that is more because a lot of things in TF2 are hitscan.

OW actually has very little hitscan.
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>>344947539
WIdow has a scope.
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>>344947989
Hanzo still shouldn't be able to walk up to you and get a headshot kill without pulling the bow all the way back.
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>>344945843
>Thats way too many buffs.

Well she's the weakest tank in the game

she NEEDS those bufss
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>>344939107
Now the real question is... on consoles as well?
That'd be hilarious and actually good at the same time
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>>344948680
Roadhog is the weakest tank.
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>>344948798
t. roadhog main
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>>344948798
nice meme
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>>344948798
Err no
Hog is better in both tanking and killing, d.va was only good as utility hero aka useless hero
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>>344947875
two heroes is the real problem, good fucking luck stopping a double tracer double lucio comp

genji damage too high y/n?
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D.va is fun but still underwhelming.

like she DOESN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING USEFUL except annoy people.
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Playing insurgency
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>>344949226
Well yeah, she's like a tank version of Tracer with Winston's damage
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>>344949226
sounds like mei

Played 4 D.vas on attack recently. Easy win in under 4 minutes with NERF THIS spam
Hella fun as well
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cool, when will they change hanamura and anubis for attack? I instaleave these
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>>344949135
>genji damage too high y/n?

Remove animation cancel and the fact that he can direct blocked projectiles with his crosshair.
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>>344949359
I honestly think she might be under winston in damage. it's really fucking hard to properlly zone people when shooting and if someone strafes infront of you you're dealing shit for damage

Her new shield is the only grace because it lets you change the gap when you want to.

I might have to just up the fuck out of her mouse sensitivity.
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>>344949608
>Remove animation cancel

What do you mean? I don't play genji.
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>76 enemy ults
>junkrat is full health
>right when his health starts to tick down I ult with zenyatta
>the heal doesn't out heal the damage immediately

I don't know what to say but his ult still doesn't seem to tank hard enough or be fast enough to respond to damage. I guess it's just useful for escape and general team counter pushes.
Which is actually really nice with
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You know, lads, these updates are actually very good and all, and Ana looks cool as balls, but there is one thing that eats me every time I launch the game recently.

New maps when?
New game mods?
Because honestly ~10 maps and only 3 mods is not so much
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>>344949608
>the fact that he can direct blocked projectiles with his crosshair.
excuse me?
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>>344947457
I agree, 30% is buff just doesn't hit any good milestones, 40% would mean rein hammer 2shots which is important
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>>344949926
5 cp fucking when.

I cannot believe this is a 6 v 6 game with no 5 cp.
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when will this be live?
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>>344947281
>>344947457
God DAMN IT why would they revert it back instead of you know, making that brokeback faggot not be able to shoot across the map?
Reverting it back still keeps the problem that you're better off just pulling out your gun to shoot a Reinhardt shield instead of damage boosting a teammate.
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>>344950079
Probably a week at least since they have no idea what they're doing when it comes to balance. They're just going to keep dicking around on the PTR for now.
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>>344950079
a week

Side note for ana.
Give me a grace period with her sleep, if someone gets sleeped don't disable it when a projectile hits them at the same fucking time.
That and the up and down time for sleep is kind of crazy.

Also please PLEEEEEEEASE remove team heals if the patient is full health, let me shoot through them if they're full health.
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Ya know you can skin tf2 for free and get the same game for free
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>>344949926
They're working on maps
No new gamemodes in the works, but it's not off the table for future maps
see >>344942364
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>>344939852
We still have him on Xbone, mostly because of his OP ult that phases through walls.
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>>344950072
Blizzard like short games, 5 cp takes too long
It's really unlikely we'll ever see a 5 or even 3 cp
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Great now hitscan babies get buffed
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>>344950312
well tf2 doesn't have a Korean mecha pilot girl
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>>344950105
Yeah but it sounds like they're gonna nerf it only in PTR and hopefully settle on a middleground before it goes live

30% is too low
50% is too high
40% should be just right
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>>344939107
Does that mean naked D.va will be invincible now?
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Anyone else still getting disconnected all the time? I feel like it's a problem with my ISP since I didn't have any problems at uni and they only started when I came home for summer. Blizz still hasn't said anything and I can't play for longer than like 10 minutes without getting kicked to a login screen.
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>>344939107
Where were you when they BROKE hitboxes?

Check the video again. Check the arrow at 1:42, the last one on PTR before the kill shot. Definitely hits him right in the head, but doesn't register.

Great fucking job Blizzard.
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>>344949959
>genji blocks a pharah rocket
>can aim that rocket at an enemy while it's in flight
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>>344950734
should be a problem for nonsnipers, hehe
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>>344950590
It's got more. There's like 40 female models you can choose for tf2. Even "gasp" naked ones. Hell, you can get a naked renamon for your tf2 class of choice.

Free. Only price is you become a furfaggot
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>>344950849
yes that is the point of reflect, what are you getting at?
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>>344950734
Instead of random crits like in TF2, Overwatch implements random misses.
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>>344944741
>I do not understand how overwatch netcode and hit detection works
This is not fucking CS. If you shoot a guy, and he was there on your screen, he gets hit. It's client side.
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>mccree+mercy does 210 damage on headshot now

Is blizzard fucking retarded?
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>inb4 they enlarge the hitbox on Hanzo's arrows to compensate
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>>344950312
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Kinda wish they'd make a scoreboard everyone on your team could see instead of the current medal system. I know they don't want people to be offended, but it's annoying to not know how your teammates are performing sometimes. For example,

>You have top damage as let's say McCree. Your feel your Soldier 76 must be useless then. However in truth his damage is only 50 points lower than yours, meaning both of you are just about equally damaging their team

>You're healing as Zenyatta and you have silver healing. You begin to feel useless only to discover same as previous example, the guy above you only had 50 HP more healed than you and you're only managing as a team because you're both healing

>You're playing as Ana and your boost is ready, but you don't know who to give it to. If you could see the scoreboard you'd see that your Soldier 76 has been outperforming everyone on the team, but since you can't you just give it to the Reinhardt because surely he'll be able to wipe the team, right?

It'd also help with those Hanzos who claim to have top damage/eliminations when you come to find they're close to being tied with a more useful team member.
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>>344940461
Fool, you're only 100% dead against Zenyatta if you're a tank.
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Anas cool, her sleep is fucking dog shit though.

>get stunned
>wait 5.5 seconds
>FIVE POINT FIVE SECONDS

every other stun was fast and painless because it was meant to stop you in your tracks so the bad players could aim, or you could kill tracer/genji. This shit is just to piss off players.
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>game still has cosmetic microtransactions and RNG loot crates

Still not touching this game. I'm going back to Unreal Tournament. No disgusting cosmetics.
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>>344951092
>nobody is complaining about this except high level players on PTR, because shitters can't hit headshots

it's pain, it's the worst fucking thing about the PTR. I hope zen and mercy damage amp go to 33 or 35 before the patch hits live
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>>344951092
mccree feels godly in general. long distance burst damage is nuttso.

engaging him is terrible again.
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>>344941229
Someone tell me when that CD reduction brawl is up.

Was almost impossible to die as Tracer.

Ridiculous amounts of fun.
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>>344950921
It will curve towards an enemy, rather than actually require genji to be looking at an enemy the moment the projectile hits him

It's trash
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>>344951339
>I hope zen
why that was the only edge he had over mercy.
At least it makes sense for zenyatta to have a kill command. Mercies is just a fuck everything now.
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>>344951236
But muh feefees...
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>>344951461
>It will curve towards an enemy, rather than actually require genji to be looking at an enemy the moment the projectile hits him

is this new because I don't think so.
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>>344951301
>i don't like this feature which doesn't affect actual gameplay at all
it's your choice to be a retard
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>>344951491
because zen is insane on PTR now, and the time to kill is getting obnoxiously low
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>>344951301
I have like 10 legendary skins without buying any loot box
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>>344951273

Well, it goes away instantly if you're hit, so aside from Widow headshots or Rein charges, you're not going to take as much damage as you would with the other stuns in the game. And if they choose to not shoot you to keep you stunned, you can be healed for that full 5 seconds assuming your healer is around.

But I can see it being really bad if you're the only person on the team doing anything and the enemy team knows it.
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>>344951273
Anon you silly goose it's a SLEEP dart not a NAP dart~ :p
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>>344940876
He has 50 more health which apparently makes him broken
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>>344951709
You can alt fire and then discord immediately after for instagibs desu. 50 shields is just the icing on the cake.
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>>344951709
>makes him broken
Elaborate
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>>344951709
and an ult that pretty much makes his team invulnerable outside of a few practical cases

discord was always completely fucking broken, and his orbs being nearly instant is a big boost to damage potential
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>>344951658
That's not the point.
Waiting 5.5 seconds for a stun is just annoying.
I'm okay~ with stuns because they're fast and they just interupt you for a moment. This is just a "okay no, fuck you, stop playing for a bit, grab a drink, cause you got 5.5 seconds and a respawn time to look forward to"

Also getting t-baged is only hot when it's origin skin
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>>344951301
Its still mile ahead of valves garbage cosmetic system that requires you to spend money on keys to get anything half decent.

There is literally no reason to buy loot crates unless you just can't wait to get that one cosmetic.
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>>344951609
that's his thing though, hes not the healer hes the "I fuck everything up" kind of support.
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>>344951934
>and an ult that pretty much makes his team invulnerable outside of a few practical cases
Compare it to the other ults and think about what that means.
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>>344951709
His ult making him have double speed is pretty broken.

>>>/wsg/1184988
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>>344951609

Zen is now a dps who can off heal and has a viable role in some team comps

He isn't even as broken as people are complaining about as you still need LoS for the orbs to remain on targets. Mercy now provides the same damage boost with quicker healing and a team rez in exchange for less direct damage.

Mcree is the only one that may have been overbuffed
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>>344952156
what are you even getting at
lucio ult is objectively worse
mercy ult loses to zenyatta ult in a teamfight situation
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you know who needs buffed???
phara
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>>344952472
>phara

>only 76 can counter her
>needs a buff
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>>344952472

>Pharah: "My team needs me"
>The team doesn't need her at all

;_;
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>>344952559
>only 76 can counter her
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>>344951934
It's radius is pretty shitty compared to how your average pub team plays. I usually cant even get them on the same fucking half of the map as the objective, let alone have them huddle up for a group hug while I pass them into the Iris
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>>344952472
with the new mccree/zenyatta/ana addition buff I might agree.
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Genji needs a buff
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>>344952675
source.
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>>344952707
you're in a shitter bracket, it also covers like the entire first point on hamamura and you're sanic fast, how the fuck are you this bad lmao
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Mei buff when?
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>>344952295
>Zenyatta is now offensive ult and damage boosting that helps in offense
>Mercy is now defensive ult that helps when defending

I fail to see how this is any worse than double lucio meta
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>>344952739
>Genji needs to be removed

fix'd
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>>344952295

And zenyatta ult loses against any sort of burst damage like mercy boosted mcree or ana boosted rein/phara/junk rat/mcree/genji

And mercy can reset any near team wipe wasting almost every damage ult

Lucio makes up for the weaker ult by having AoE passive and boosted speed and healing along side a mid tier weapon and short cooldown knockback
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>>344952856
nobody is even saying that you no-reading mongoloid
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>>344952830
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>overcucks
Holy shit lmao you all fell for the MEME

Top goyim
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>>344952836
>250 hp
>can heal her fatself
>annoying as fuck ult
>needs a buff
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>>344952230

I wonder if Anas ult can stack with lucios speed buff.
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>>344952786
Jlullaby

Character is lapiz lazuli

But the original image is some shitty BLACKED stuff
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>>344952836
never, lucio projectile speed buff when?
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>>344939107
so they made all projectile heroes even worse? when they sucked already
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>>344952707
>for a group hug while I pass them into the Iris

That's why they double the speed for you.
If your team doesn't want a group hug, you go there and hug them by force
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>>344952472
am i the only one who thinks dva can counter phara really good?
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>>344950708
>nude zarya model

wat
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>>344951273
>Winston shits on snipers and healers
>give a character that is both a hard counter to him

Well fuck
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>>344953139
I always boost my self to her and punch her mid air
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>>344953046
Stupid. That's what the webm is showing. It's a Lucio speed buff + Ana nanoboost + Zen Ulti.
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>>344951236
>he takes the game seriously
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>>344953220
how
Sleep might stop him but that's about it.
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>>344953139
Shes really good because pharah can hardly move in the air. That she tanks her shots like a pro.
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>>344952908
>mccree
only on max damage headshots on 200hp or less targets
>reinhardt
lolno
>pharah
200 hp or less only on direct rockets, her ult spread will not be able to outdamage his ult
>junkrat
same as pharah, except less guaranteed and lol his ult
>genji
the most realistic situation, with a friendly zen orb and ana ult you're going to fucking die to this unless you stun him

keep in mind this is if nobody is actually fighting back, which is definitely going to happen
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>>344953352
sleep hard counters his monkey trouble
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>>344953151
You got me all excited thinking someone else was in my situation anon
Thanks for the (you) anyway
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>>344953449
I don't know but theres like a pulse or something with his heal that it doesn't actually heal fast enough to completely negate quick burst damage.

I've had so many players die when I ulted on them.
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>>344953516
Her sleep is pretty much a counter to all ults.

Like that's her only purpose really.
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>>344952943
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Friendly reminder that you can pull off a 175 damage combo with Ana if you sleep dart, then shoot/melee/grenade all together. It'll also heal you for 100 and it'll make your enemy unable to heal. Very good if you're all alone and have someone like Reaper trying to flank you.
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Maybe Zen is a little OP with the 50 extra shield boost, but everything else should stay. Give him just 25 extra instead and I think it would be completely fair.
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Blizzard actually went nuts with the buffs. 25 shields should've been enough. Also zen dps is damn crazy now.
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Does anyone else hate the no heal shit?
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>>344953691
yeah but le monkey man is bigger than most other heroes.
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>>344953897
>Also zen dps is damn crazy now.
it's been. hes just viable now but the health wasn't the issue entirely, you just couldn't defend yourself with the slow ass discords and the ult did jack shit.

Now hes perfect.
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>>344953937
t. mercycuck
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>>344945996
Uhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGcNzFd3as

TF2 actually has a really bad projectile hitbox, thats extremely large, and also locked to orientation of the map.
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>>344953897
I think 200 is good
Zenny is squishy and the team needs a healer who can survive longer
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>>344952948
(You)
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>>344945996
And shotguns and knives and pistols and revolvers and miniguns and snipers.
The dumbass lag comp that they'll never ever change really fucks TF2 hard.
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>>344954182
it's just annoying.

It would be fine if the heal rate was 75% or something so you could still heal up those small bits of missing health while you waited.
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>>344954321
tf2 is just as bad for hitscan as OW as well, even with frame-back netcode

the only thing that makes it feel better most of the time is upped tickrate, and don't get me started on how shit every source engine game is for melee
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>>344943273
>shit mobility
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>>344944241
Tickrate needs clients computer running at 60Hz(fps) in order to work and they probaby need to optimize it so people who can't run the game at 60fps aren't warping around.
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>>344941624
Because it's betetr to fix hitboxes and then balance the characters by other means than balancing them by making hitboxes xboxhueg
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>>344954443
>the only thing that makes it feel better most of the time is upped tickrate
OW utilizes 20 server 60 client tickrate, TF2 utilizes 66:20. Both of these come with issues like the melee you mentioned (which is a tiny hitscan bullet on a very short delay).
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>>344941229
not to Reapers
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>>344954686
>has to drop an ult to survive a gank
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>>344952279
Nah the real issue is the amps being stacked. Him Ana and mercy are all dropping everyone's survivability to zero by combining everything.

In a perfect world none only discord would exist. Shit gets dumb when stacked
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>>344953082
>Jlullaby
Oh boy. more huge nigger cocks.
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>>344953305

Yeah, I'm just wondering if they stack.
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>>344951979
>There is literally no reason to buy loot crates unless you just can't wait to get that one cosmetic.

Why can't I just buy the skin I want?
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>>344955183
because gambling is fun and addictive
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>>344954879

take a moment to think about how utterly shit lucio's gun feels
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>>344939107
PHARAH ISNT A NUGGET, CYA AMPUTEE FAGS

https
://www
.twitch.
tv/ste
r/v/7
7919999
?t=01h20
m02s
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>>344955812

Had to space link so it wasn't marked as spam.
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>>344955646
Can't you buy in-game currency and use that to buy skins?
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>>344942364
>bad news
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>>344942818
are you retarded roadhog is a fat peice of shit tank and zenyatta was a glass cannon and now is a the same hp of most other heros.
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>>344949135

Ult charge probably needs to take a bit longer for how powerful it is right now. That said, McREEEEEEE coming back into play might make that unnecessary.
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>>344950910

>Only price is you become a furfaggot

Too costly. There's nothing that would be worth damning my soul.

Sorry your game is dead and you got a half assed update to try and compete
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>playing zenyatta all the time
>get gold everything cause hes fucking rad
>this buff
>mfw the limiters are finally off
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>>344944741
>sauce engine
>good netcode
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>>344951461


Factually incorrect. You have to aim the projectile, it's like leading but timing with the enemy's projectile instead of your own.
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>>344943406
oh man how is that game? ive prolly auto DLed dozens of GBs of updates. i got it day one but stopped playing for some reason. i liked it a lot.
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>>344939107
>Inb4 shitters start crying they can't hit shit now and blizzard drops the change
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>>344958018
Went from bad
to worse
to worse
to worse
to worse
to worse
to I think maybe better?
to worse
to worse
to worse

Not sure if it's even active.
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>>344950591

I'm actually surprised more people weren't stacking it with double mercy's. Could you imagine someone mindless like winston with double damage buff?
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>>344950591
40% is just right

and for what reason?
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>>344958249
holy shit does mercys damage thing stack?

>>344958135
damn. such wasted potential. i should have got my time when i could. my bad.
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>>344955116

I kind of like that though.

You can use three supports and try and wombo combo debuffs so your remaining teammates can do lots of damage, or you can play normally and have pretty much the same damage spread out.

The mistake people make against the debuff combos is to keep healers. Better off swapping them out for a sniper.
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>>344954686

h-he's fast
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>>344958541

It did, but they're removing it since they are implementing a one hero limit like fags.

It's a shame. Won't be too long until the game ends up like league of legends where creative team comps aren't allowed and everyone must play the game the way they want you to.
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I'm literally not even placed for competitive and I just want this meme to die.

This community is fucking cancer.
>2 supports every game
>someone is constantly choosing your character
>one fucking minute for the attack side to win in sudden death
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>>344947875
Me and my five Junkrat brothers laugh at you
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>>344942818
If you're a smart zen player, you don't get in range for roadhog to do anything.

Just discord and snipe and he does down ez
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>>344958541
>>holy shit does mercys damage thing stack?
kind of, not mercy but other damage buffs do like zeny and ana but theres moderate loss of amplication. Not sure how the numbers worked but I remember it being a let down.
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>>344958852
>2 supports every game
I sure fucking hope
>someone is constantly choosing your character
"your character"? found the main cuck
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>>344947875

Here's the thing about hero stacking.

Every hero has massive hard counters. So if the enemy team stacks 6 of X hero, just pick their hard counters.

What the fuck is six torbjorns going to do to a reinhardt with a couple of pharahs or snipers behind it picking off turrets faster than they can possibly be repaired?

Blizzard is catering to a demographic that can't even fucking figure out how to counter pick each other. (and yes I'm including competitive faggots in there who run mirror teams.)
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>>344959048
>lucio and a mercy is necessary
No it isn't.
>implying any team wants two genjis
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>>344958852

In my experience, defenders have a much harder time during sudden death. When they die they have to walk much further and teammates will die one by one trying to contest the point.
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>>344949226
Use booster to run over people and melee them, it's extremely effective.
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>>344959060
Who is S76's massive hard counter?
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>>344959261
that only does 50 damage. it's good for follow up when they get out of range but fuck if d.va NEEDS 50 damage or needs to melee twice to kill someone theres something wrong.
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>>344941292
Not for me, I thought this was supposed to be a fps for players who don't even like the genre.
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>>344939107
I guess I will have to reinstall. Getting shot when you were clearly around a corner was one of the most irritating things.
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>>344959264

Snipers.
Roadhog.


Next.
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>>344959060
>Every hero has massive hard counters
S76 doesn't.
Tracer doesn't.
Reaper doesn't.
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>>344959431

Tracer:

Mcree, Torbjorn. Plenty of characters can one shot her too. (S76, Hanzo with scatter shot, roadhog etc)

Reaper:
Pharah, Bastion, Snipers.
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>>344959424
>Roadhog.
Uhh, 76 is the one that counters roadhog... Not the other way around.

Just because a hook combo kills him doesn't make a hard counter.

>snipers
That's not a hard counter at all, snipers have a slight advantage and only at very long ranges.
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>>344941229
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>>344959619

Roadhog is a bit situational because it depends on distance, but roadhog is both tanky enough and has the damage output to really fuck up S76.

Snipers literally kill S76 in one shot. He can shoot back of course, but he's disadvantaged in every way. They also negate his main advantages like his healing or his rocket.

To be fair though, they really need to fix soldier 76 having perfect aim and zero scatter on his gun if you simply reclick every 4 shots.
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>>344959424
>Roadhog.

76 almost hard counters roadhog.
If that fat ass is anywhere in the open he gets fucking melted my headshots and he then feeds 76s ult that shits all over the team hes supposed to protect.
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>>344958728
i thought thats just in comp mode.
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>>344960089

It is, but the changes are still going to quickplay.
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>>344960160
really? they are going to put the one hero per team in quick match??
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>>344960304

No, but mercy's damage boost won't stack in quick play.
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>No more hero stacking
>Zenyatta health buff
If these both hit the proper servers there will be no survivors.
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>>344941229
not vs genji
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Anas sleep is worse than Mei. That shit will get insane when they can actually aim it from far away. It's essentially a mini respawn where you have to watch ana take off your pants and dingle your dingaling.
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