Calling it now, he's gonna win EVO.
>>344918076
I bet he has a sextape
WASHED
UP
>>344918076
ain't even gonna get close to top 16 like any Europeans. It's not me that knows, its the greater power.
>>344918076
The brackets are stacked. He's gonna lose to Tokido again.
>>344918076
He's in the hardest bracket, top 16 for sure but top 8 isn't looking too good. I wish he'd switch to Ken.
What happened to him anyway? Too busy being a celeb and not enough practice?
>>344918641
More people going to tournaments than ever = More good people at tournaments = Greater chance of not making it to the end
>>344918641
He's been top 16 in every tournament he's attended so far
>>344918076
daigo
more like DROWNo because he is dead in pools
>>344918781
How is xiaohai and infiltration doing?
>>344918903
Infiltration is literally the best in the world, with only tokido aproaching him
Xiaohai, just like in sf4, has days were he is unstopable, and days when he is ok, so he might win EVO or loose in top 32
>>344918282
Whatever marn. Clearly the only thing to do is to learn from melee and let fan favourites skip pools.
>>344918453
What makes you think he'd do better with Ken? Ryu is a better character overall.
>>344918076
>Daigo wins EVO
>Mango wins EVO
>Snake Eyez plays Gief
>Pokken is a trainwreck shitshow of a tournament and is never brought back
>Sm4sh fails even harder than last year
>an Aganos player wins KI
Could it be the greatest EVO yet?
>>344918076
Yeah, no. This isn't Daigo's game. It's gonna be either Infiltration or Tokido. Most likely Tokido.
>>344919821
If all those things happened it would be, but I kind of doubt it
>>344918076
FGC illuminati rigs fights.
He hasn't won Evo in a long time. Like a really long time.
>>344919821
I just hope that Melee community proves once again they are toxic by ruining a grand final or shitting in the pool once again so TOs decide to drop support for them in favor of another game.
>Daigo will win Evo
>he hasn't gotten first since 2010
>>344920536
>Mr. Jewizard ever dropping the second highest viewed event at his tourney
So, is anyone here going to be there tomorrow?
>>344919821
>smash 4 fails even harder.
I hope so, the game just keeps getting worse and it's so RNG based it's sad
>>344920942
Nah dawg. Take a shot for me though. I'll be there in spirit.
I'm a Daigo dickrider and I'm not sure he has it anymore, he can make top 8 for sure but with his age I don't think he has the edge that can give him that win. It's not impossible but there are much more favorable players.
>>344918641
Daigo doesn't have anything to prove. He's also getting up there in years.
He just plays the way he wants to play.
>>344918076
Sorry OP, but Daigo is that guy that gets beat by some young up-and-coming nobody at EVO now.
Infiltration, Tokido or Sako will win.
>>344918076
life is not an anime (unless you ask meleekids)
he will never be the man again
>>344918076
Tokido will win.
He won CEO. He's on fire. The momentum is with him.
But the main reason is Ryu. Ryu is a strong character, and parrying is very OP.
>>344921943
They should bring back Third Strike. And balance it.
>>344922207
>Only perfectly balanced games are good!
Fuck off
>>344922284
>I like seeing the same 3 characters in top 8!
This is you.
>>344922284
>Two characters that shit on absolutely everyone is good design!
Go back to Marvel.
I know this would never happen but if Xian could win I'd be so happy. A fang winning evo would put shitposting into overdrive
>>344922284
>I want Chun, and Yun to dominate forever!
>>344922356
Kek what was even going on here?
>>344918076
nah, say it with me
THIS IS LOW
>>344922450
I remember the evo that xian won. I had never seen him before and I christened him the stress monster because he looked like he was about to have a panic attack every time the camera was on him. I took a liking to mr stress monster and I followed him from pools to the finals. I was very happy for him.
>>344922537
He won a tournament in China, thought he won a PS4 turns out they just wanted a picture of him holding a PS4. Classic China.
I wish some literal who that's never even played a local tournament would win.
>>344922284
Just buff everyone to keep it fun. And nerf genei jin, that shit is retarded
>>344921385
>His age
Sako is older and he's still strong.Age means piss all for fighting games
>>344922593
JUST
>>344922593
TIER
>>344921385
>with his age
He's like 34, dude. Most tops players are in their 30s.
>>344921385
All of the top players are around his age. Tokido just turned 31
When is Zangief getting buffed?
Th-they're not just gonna leave him are they /v/?
I hope Haitani wins because his necalli is on some next lvl shit. dont even know how he plays like that with 8f
>>344922623
That's hilarious
>>344922835
Just gotta live in the future, pal.
>>344921385
What the fuck does age have to do with it? It's not dance dance revolution. He doesn't have to hop around and twirl like a retard.
>>344921385
You think being fucking 34 affects your reaction speed?
>>344920536
what grand final did they ruin
>>344922432
That's not even true in Marvel. KBR shat on the top tiers because of a bullshit strat last year. Someone got in the top 8 with fucking MODOK.
>>344922835
i have the same feelings for Tokido Ryu
>>344918076
>watching tournaments that are rigged in favor of americans
why?
>>344922695
>
GAWD
>>344922593
BIG
>>344922207
>>344922432
All I will say about this matter is, fighting games that are ACTUALLY balanced and not "balanced", are boring. Balance is not the key, things like counterpicking makes for a much more fun experience.
EVO is rigged and DSP called it
cant believe I just wrote that down
>>344923062
dont worry, an american still wont win evo.
>>344922835
Balrog is just a better Necalli.
>>344923136
>ACTUALLY balanced and not "balanced"
Literally what?
>>344923204
When did DSP say that?
>>344923062
It just makes it funnier when there's one burger in top 8. 0 eurodogs in top 6000.
>>344923290
EVOs won by Europe: 1
EVOs won by America: 0
>>344922670
I think old man Alex Valle vs bonchan was my favorite match of evo last year.
>>344923062
americucks everyone, if they cant win they cheat
>mfw even an european won fucking evo
>>344923136
>things like counterpicking makes for a much more fun experience.
For the person countering, maybe. I'm glad you aren't a developer.
>>344923062
It's a CPT event and J.Wong is #1 in the CPT
So he gets the best seed.
I don't see a problem with this.
>>344923272
I don't really care since fighting games are for babies but here you go
>>344923264
ACTUALLY balanced means just that, every character has an exact equal chance of winning. There's no tiers, no counterpicking, no matchups.
"Balanced" means that there's at least measures put in place to prevent bullshit 10-0 matchups. CAN Q beat Ken when both players are the best out there? Yes. WILL he? Ehh probably not.
>>344923414
*EVO's won by America: 3
Does EVO start Friday or Saturday?
Boss isn't here this Friday, might work from home to watch the boring ass group stages where nu males get trashed by trannies
>>344923627
>CAN Q beat Ken when both players are the best out there? Yes. WILL he? Ehh probably not.
How is this a good thing?
>>344923414
I'm not American, I don't care. I'm just shit flinging. Gonna go ahead and call L-dawg a fluke though.
>>344918076
How can he win if he doesn't even play Melee
>>344918076
I'm more excited for Revelator
>More then a thousand entrants
>All these Jap lords
Hopefully FAB doesn't drop the ball again. SFV is a boring ass game anyways. Top 8 is almost always the same 5 characters nowadays Ryu Ken Chun Li Nash Necalli with sprinkles of Karin and a rare entry of others nowadays.
I think SFV is a decent game but fuck am i excited to see it polished at the end of the year. It needs work in alot of areas to be great and its a shame a faggy esports level tour is dragging the game itself down from being better.
>>344923627
Nah. Having 7-3 be the worst matchup in the game is better than having 9-1s and shit.
>grand finals jwong vs diago
a man can dream
>>344921943
There's so much wrong with this I don't even want to start naming it
>>344918076
>>344923864
you talk like xrd is any better in top 8, probably may get the rare johhny but I expect the same characters. People are there to win after all.
>>344924010
>jwong
>grand finals
>>344923751
>>344923907
Because while there is a considerable gap in terms of mechanics, it is still something that's capable of being overcome with skill or proper mastery of the character.
You want actual unbalanced on a level even 3rd Strike never dreamed of? Fucking Akuma in 2. He is banned from literally everything tournament-wise because you simply can't beat a player that uses him. He crushes the meta so hard that if he was allowed, everyone would play him no matter what.
The people who want 3rd Strike to change are the people that never played it competitively when it was THE game to play.
>>344923525
How are seeded pools bad? It prevents retards such as DSP from getting a weak pool and getting out. Why does he act like playing specific people is a automatic loss? If you entered and expected to win you should expect to face them eventually.
Seeded spots just allow for less shit matches outside of pools. Besides SFV has so many entrants this time around we will surely see some no names get out of pools them lose a few rounds later easily and wonder how they got out.
>To say i suck at ST
Well you obvious aren't a pro if those were automatic losses you fat fuck.
>>344924150
Is that Daigo's book? That's deep as shit.
>>344918076
no way jose
tokido will win
>>344924150
deepest lore.
>>344924245
I don't need TS to change. TS is fine and ended up good despite the balance issues, but to say games shouldn't bother balancing is just dumb. Do the best you can to make every character good, and then tune as needed once a year or so.
>>344922997
Guilty Gear at CEO I believe.
>>344922883
>>344923414
>SF is the only thing at Evo
Man i love this meme. Just as bad as the GG is dead meme. SFaggots really are ruining the genre. Whenever someone tries to get into fighters you point them to SF like its the only option whether they like it or not. The Western FGC is a cancer sore in many ways. From the drama aspect to the biased towards Capcom games aspect.
Japan plays everything and excels at everything well America plays for the money and sucks pro cock.
>>344923696
>A fat spic and a chinese are now considered americans
>Memelee being revelant to the conversation at all
>>344918076
So who are the best players of their respective games at Evo? I'm only aware of two being Street Fighter with Infiltration and Guilty Gear for Machaboo.
>yfw SF5 will be entirely casted by UltraChen because it needs to be PG for ESPN
>>344924245
I really don't understand. What's the argument here? You can make a fighting game balanced and also create a high skill ceiling for each individual character.
>>344922828
next february
>>344924452
While Mang0 is not white, he is still an American.
I'm sorry to say that while america might not be homogonized. It's still way better, and older than say. some shit hole EU country, like Germany.
>>344924414
Good thing hes not 80
>>344924414
People react to audio stimulus quicker. We've also done no studies on people who are doing things like playing video games etc. Most people stop being active or doing things that require quick reaction as they age.
Furthermore fighting games are more prediction than raw reaction 90% of the time. Even the young guys eat raw overheads from time to time.
>>344918641
Daigo has said before he's not the fastest learner. Also this
http://www.eventhubs.com/imagegallery/2016/jul/13/daigo-book/1/
>>344924493
No, it'll probably be Chen and Killian like previous years.
>>344924452
Do you think American is an ethnicity?
>>344924189
>Xrd
>Any better
Are you retarded
Faust
Zato
Milla
Milla
Ky
Leo
Axl
Sin
7 different characters. Hell top 8s in Xrd minus NY only ones often have very few repeats and alot of everyone. Also
>Rare Johnny
Expect to see a shit ton of Jap Johnnys in pools and early rounds. Hes S tier and Japs have the execution to tap into why.
No seriously you're a fucking moron for comparing SFVs character variety to Xrd you don't even remember top 8s properly. People play to win but not the same as SFV where people drop characters like crazy. GG has mechanics so that even low tier heroes often move from their characters.
>>344924618
>We've also done no studies on people who are doing things like playing video games
>study is a fucking game
>>344924687
>That must mean the sample size is game literate.
>>344924150
that was fukkin beautiful ilu daigo ;-;
>>344924534
Well it seemed like the original argument was "I don't like how 3rd Strike's tier list is". To which I say, if you don't like 3rd Strike's tiering then 2nd Impact is right there.
>>344924189
>rare johnny
Isn't he like the most fucking popular character in Japan atm?
>>344924150
>>344924291
The other thing about Daigo is he has this kind of self help charismatic aura. If you saw him on a talk show talking about his philosophical stuff you'd never guess he was a progamer.
>>344924687
Long term though dude. I'd be fucking shocked if generations that grew up glued to screens didn't have large differences in brain function than those who didn't.
>>344924674
not him but its almost like one game has more characters than the other.
>>344924926
>>344924790
the sample size is going to be biased to people who play video games since they're the only ones who care about online reaction games
>>344924559
>>344924670
>Answering to a post using memelee
>Falling for this low level bait
Come on, >we are better than this
>>344924906
He's literally fucking Ryu.
Wiz stuck 90% of the top Japanese players in the same quarter of the bracket because EVO can't be legit now that it's esports.
>>344924937
In Sign GG had only 2-3 more characters then SFV on release. So that argument isn't valid since we see almost every GG character in top 8s well SFV is usually composed of the same 5 with a few others sprinkled in sometimes.
Are you seriously going to act like 3 characters is a big enough difference to warrant this. Go drink Capcoms koolaid some more kiddo.
>>344924860
You said "fighting games that are ACTUALLY balanced are boring". I'm simply wondering how you can universally apply that to every balanced fighting game.
>>344923013
Frutsi is a main Modok for a long time, even he went to the finals with him some evos ago
Now on HD.
>>344925141
When I say ACTUALLY balanced, I'm talking about a game where everyone is completely equal. Because that's balance, nothing tips the scales.
And that's boring
>>344922828
Gief doesn't need a buff as big as you might think, maybe some extra health and an improved double lariat, but that's about it.
There are many people doing well with the character, unlike fraud eyez.
>>344925242
He just needs Green Hand back.
>>344925229
The parry is not that impressive in of itself. Anyone can do it with practice, hell it's even a trial in the online ver of 3rd Strike.
The impressive thing was he successfully baiting JWong into using his super, which Daigo knew he could parry and then turn the tables on him. If JWong did literally anything else, he wouldn't won.
>>344925109
Got to have those usa chants going in top 8 for television.
>>344925236
Well, what the hell do you mean by "equal"? Theoretically, the point of having different characters is that they all have different strengths and weaknesses.
>>344925396
All do the same damage, have the same health, use the same number of frames for their moves.
>>344924993
Athletes care. My buddy in university had to test people with something like this for a project in his human mechanics class.
>>344925483
Literally what game?
>>344925391
You also have to start the parry at the super flash.
>>344925391
Well, I dunno if there were a thousand banshee screaming behind me while cheering for my enemy would be pressuring as fuck.
>>344925483
Worked forcompetitive FPSbut I'm being disingenuous here.
>>344925530
None, thank christ, unless there's one I haven't heard of. It would be a game every everyone is Ryu, and not just simply Ryu, but all the exact same iteration of Ryu.
It's not just boring, it goes against the point of fighting games, which is why most of the time when I hear people whine about balance, all I can think is git gud. Unless there is something BLATANTLY fucked up like making a character in the regular roster SNK boss tier.
>>344925619
That is not the same thing as fighting games though. Plus it's not even true, maps are not exactly mirrors.
Everything has some level of unbalance. Even chess, considered by many to be the perfect game, gives an inherent advantage to white because they get to move first.
>>344925391
Green hand is a meme at this point, it doesn't fit Zangief's approach that is now centered around his armor v-trigger.
He only needs like 50 extra life because he feels a little too squishy considering the amount of hits he usually takes before getting close.
The double lariat buff would only be for him to not be as bulliable in his wake-up.
>>344925815
>Green hand is a meme
Banishing Flat has never not been super useful. Even though the projectile game is mostly gone as of V, it's still a move that has a lot of momentum for very little startup.
>>344925809
Uh, okay? You said yourself that fighting games that are actually balanced are boring, so I'd assume you had some examples in mind or were accusing another game in the SF franchise of being "actually balanced".
>>344925981
Zangief's design in SFV doesn't support him having a sudden gap closer, even if it is the ST version.
>>344925981
You said it yourself, rather than getting green hand I'd rather have more health and a better d. lariat.
>>344926002
>so I'd assume you had some examples in mind
You don't need one. Anyone that has played the genre enough would know that making all the characters even would make for a boring game.
Though if you need an example.MUGEN, fresh install, nothing inputted yet. Only Karate Man is there by default
>>344925809
I know anon that's why I followed up with what I said.A good Ryu mirror match is satisfying to watch though.
>>344924150
This is why diago is the only one who can achieve reali life Gill status
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_VXTJDuMmQ
>daigo will not win but he will win in my anime dreams
>It's a /v/ talks about fighting games despite not playing them, knowing nothing about them or the FGC.
He got the looks. I think he should go into acting
>>344927407
Post your credentials, faggot
>>344927407
Nice meme.
>>344918076
>couldnt even beat lupe
>>344924452
>a literal chinese expat is now considered european
>>344928034
The real Lupe fiasco was when little Lupe got breast implants.
>>344918641
I'd add that V desn't jive well with how he played ryu in sf4. Old habits are hard to break.
>>344923864
Too bad Zidane and Lost Soul couldn't come.
I want Zidane to be there so Kaz and FAB can get their revenge.
Lost Soul because he's just that good.
>>344923864
FAB will most likely not make it to top 8. If you see his pools, he will eventually encounter Machaboo, which will send him to losers.
In Top 8, Machaboo will most likely win, but not without possibility of an upset, especially from Omito Johnny and Daru I-no from Korea. Judging from the players, top 8 will be
Machaboo
Omito
Daru
Samitto
Sabamiso
Svampen
Ogawa
Nakamura
Sabamiso and Svampen may be replaced by anyone, though.
>>344924189
Johnny is S tier, the game is perfectly diverse, and even the least represented lile Jam,, Ramlethal and Potemkin have their fair share of users
https://a.pomf.cat/vdusgt.webm
>>344924398
>People still spreading this
No one reading the CEO feedback that was posted where Jebailey said all that happened was literally his fault since he announced that Melee was getting delayed during GG and then during GG's awards ceremony he told people to get hype for Melee and didn't think everyone would fucking erupt.
>>344933470
FAB always chokes when it really matters, he used to do it in AC too.
But Machaboo is a tad overrated though, he loses all the time in Japan.
>>344934172
He 5-0d Ogawa in ft5, beat Omito and Karinchu clean, he definitely has the edge over everyone minus Daru
>>344918076
Daigo still hasn't adjusted to SFV and he probably won't even Top 8, or will do so barely.
I'd say more like either Tokido/Justin/Infiltration have a chance. Anyone else would be a real surprise.
>>344934921
>bros
>>344930085
I bet you were holding that one in for a long time.
>>344934397
That was in Japan and also not a tourney as big as EVO. We have seen many Japanese players play overseas in SF, but not in GG. Should at least wait till after pools to make a prediction about GG.
>>344936316
It just pains me to see fake titties.
>>344934921
Justin didn't even get top 16 at CEO.
>>344936979
The difference is, the very core playerbase of GG (and anime in general) are in Japan. The pioneers, OGs and gods of the game play in Japan, and in KSB last month, every relevant player who plays the game has already shown up, all beaten by Team Universal Brotherhood (Machaboo, Omito, Daru, svampen, kyuukei and Mr Biscuits from US). Apart from ArcRevo, thats how you know who's who to beat, simply because there really isnt anyone from outside Japan who plays at their level with the exception of Daru from Korea and Svampen who's Swedish (which you really cant count since he plays in Mikado arcade anyway). Last year's prediction was spot on, minus Zidane who was a wild card. Neither Zidane or Lost Soul will be unable to make it to Evo this year, so unless Kid Viper steps it up, or a literally who manages to beat everyone to top 8, thats the nearest prediction anyone can make.
>>344924189
>rare johnny
>literally the best character in the game by a large margin
>fucking omito at evo this year
Johnny will be in GF and so will Sin.
>>344918076
Decent chance.
>>344918186
Dude, I bet he walks into EVO, points at any girl he sees, and thats the girls who's asshole he's fisting that night. He's fucking daigo, literally every girl at EVO is ready to throw their pussy on him. Probably why he keeps coming back
>>344934172
>machaboo is overrated
You haven't watched the YouDeal stream from this month. He 5-0ed everyone but Omito, who he beat 5-3. He won one of them 10 rounds straight.
>>344918076
Nigga, you and me both know this will be another Infiltration vs Tokido in the finals, with Infiltration having 85% chances of winning it.
>>344923415
That shit was pretty hype. Old Man still has those magic fingers.
wew lads
2 days before evo patch. I thought they would only work on Ibuki air throw.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/blog/2016/07/13/street-fighter-v-july-bug-fixes
>>344922541
what the fuck is japanese moot doing
i hope not
>>344941319
No one informed him of the arm crossing shit
>>344941625
He's usually much more attentive to those crossups.
>>344925391
I'd be scared of fucking it up
>>344934921
did wong lose weight?
PR BALROG FOR EVO 2016
>>344927080
In a different universe Mike Ross is a children's show host.
