What are youtube channels that provide deep analysis criticism of game design?
>>344894331
analysis and/or criticism*
>gamefeel
>>344894331
You first, OP
He was never able to articulate why Skyward Sword was so bad. I don't like the game either, but you can't keep dodging why it fails so profoundly without coming off as a YouTube comment. Egoraptor is a has been.
MGS5 criticism videos show the the world how utterly inept game journalists are. That game has so many failings and it's obvious to anyone who thinks for more than a minute about the plot and the repetitive mission structure. Games like MGS5 are a reminder that YouTube channels with good criticism are more legitimate than Metacritic.
>>344894331
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MatthewMatosis
Game Maker's Toolkit
and Errant Signal is good at talking about games from a narrative/meta standpoint but most of /v/ hates that it's politically left-leaning
>>344894331
you tell me OP
>>344894331
i wish this scumbag would get killed in a vicious car accident
and not even die from the impact either
he's trapped in the car while it burns
>>344894572
>>344894331
I've never even made it to the Skyward Sword part of the video because the Ocarina part makes me so mad I shut it off
>>344894331
Tai Lopez
>>344894785
I'm not following anon. Could you be a little more explicit?
>>344894785
>>344895004
RIDIN' ON CARS
>>344894676
adding to this:
Super Bunnyhop
Satchbag
Noah-Gervais, though he triggers /v/ because he's used le SJW words.
Joseph Anderson
Turbo Button
Mrbtonguemyass
>>344894676
>>344895232
This is pathetic, these aren't in depth. They're pseudo-intellectual at best.
>HEY GUYS OCARINA OF TIME SUCKS HAHA
Reminder that Egoraptor sucks at OOT and kept dying over and over during his playthorugh.
Reminder that Egoraptor never finished Super Castlevania IV and gave up because he kep getting game over screens, and the main reason he kept dying was because he wasn't using the sub-weapons.
Egoraptor sucks at video games, and at video game analysis, he's just good making teenagers laugh with funny voices.
>>344894331
It still amazes me how much misinformation is in that video.
>>344894331
Not this guy that's for sure.
>>344895487
It's a real shame that's all the video was. I was honestly hoping for something like the older Sequelitis videos, because the changes from the older Zeldas being "explore the world at your own pace, have an adventure" to the 3D Zelda "here's a story we want to lead you through, and plenty of puzzles to solve" is a GREAT concept for a Sequelitis video
Instead we got Arin bitching about his inability to handle 3D spacial awareness and general ADHD problems with occasional non-tangents to Skyward Sword.
>>344895592
>kept dying over and over during his playthorugh.
Holy shit how do you die in Ocarina of Time? Unless you're like 8 years old and awful at video games or something. Only time I remember dying was during the Volvagia fight, I got overzealous and forgot that he'll murder you in like 2 hits.
>>344894331
Every man needs a friend to pull them back from the abyss once they've lost their way. Egoraptor fired the only friend willing to do that and replaced him with a yes man, the rest of his life has been reduced to the chronicling of a man falling from grace. Anons, I hope you have friends that challenge you to be better than you are.
>>344895953
Anon, Arin managed to die in Wind Waker
REPEATEDLY.
>>344895592
The comments on half the game grumps videos want him to play Majora's Mask. Just imagine 100 episodes of that fucking catastrophe where he just uses a strategy guide for every single thing.
i'm just as surprised as you that emptyhero reviews videogames so well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0lPJdYlzmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps_B1_195Ss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOB1XRsqC8
>>344895381
What are some channels that are in-depth?
>>344895773
It amazes me that he has all of these expectations about Ocarina of Time being about exploration when the first 15 minutes or so of the game establishes pretty firmly that this isn't going to be the same type of ride that the very first Zelda was (i.e. it's going to be more story-driven).
Also going off of what >>344895598 said, there are certain moments where he's just full of shit, like where he claims that Ocarina of Time's dungeons can only be completed in one concrete path (Forest -> Fire -> Water -> Shadow -> Spirit) when that's factually incorrect. For example, you can do Water before Fire, or Spirit before Shadow.
Also his complaints at the blue tektites that come in during the Water Temple where he complains "I CAN'T SEE THEM COMING, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO" or those spiked anvils that circle the floor in the Ice Cave. Sure, you may not see them coming, but you can damn well hear them coming because they make very distinctive noises. It's like he has no awareness and doesn't want to develop any.
>>344895953
By paying more attention to memeing for the 8 year olds than to the game.
This one is my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/user/bunnyhopshow
>>344896430
fuck off smegma
>>344896430
>emptyhero
>anything more than a one off joke
How the fuck is he still around
Why the fuck is he doing videos
Who the fuck actually watches this shit
>>344896430
Don't shill your channel you fag.
Whats you're favorite Sequilitis hypocrisy?
Mine is how he says in Mega Man X that "the first thing every player does in a game is try all the buttons" but then it took him and Jon 2/3 of Milky Way Wishes to press X
>>344896870
Here's another one I enjoy.
I even used a couple of their videos in a school project a few years back.
MatthewMatosis is good but takes fucking forever to upload.
SuperbunnyHop is good but is actually gay and has some bad opinions.
>>344896682
He's not trying to claim that they're literally unavoidable like he's fucking DSP woooow, or whatever. Merely that they aren't something that can be tracked well as your focus is directly pulled elsewhere, and they don't remain within the area you're forced to focus on.
Most of his shit about exploration is kinda dumb though, you're right there.
>>344896682
My favorite is where he bitches about the wait time for opening treasure chests, as though that makes or breaks the game. Literally even DSP wouldn't whine about that.
>>344897016
When he says in Castlevania IV the devs didn't implement the swinging enough, but in reality he never made it past stage 8, so he could never see how what he said was actually implemented on the last 2 levels.
Also how he said sub-weapons are useless, yet he kept dying on his GG playthrough because of not using them.
In all fariness, it's more retardedness rather than hypocrisy.
>>344894331
nice you start your thread by filtering the shitty ones
>>344896682
>WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO
>mfw I read that in DSP's voice
>>344897157
>Is actually gay and has bad opinions
>>344897157
>>344895232
Everyone says Super Bunnyhop is good, but the only video I've seen from him is his Sonic video and it was one of the most empty and meaningless pieces of "analysis" I've ever seen
>>344895953
I didn't watch all of it but he almost never uses his shield, he walks into things like the stick plant monsters, he never tries to kill monsters with items they're weak against, and to "troll" (read pretends to be retarded) he wears the hover boots. The hoover boots thing is amazingly retarded, he plays it off like it some mastermind troll. I wonder what his next epic prank will be, maybe he can smash pots and pans together for their next series.
>>344897016
>the first thing every player does in a game is try all the buttons
He literally doesn't say that though, he spends the whole autistic scenario acting as if the player wont try anything new unless they have literally no other option.
You fags try way too hard to look for shit ever since that OOT video. Is it really that hard to conceive of somebody not liking a game you like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUiGPnBAqs
>>344897412
His Zelda and Metal Gear ones are decent. But in reality it's more that he's a nice guy giving his honest opinions without sounding like an asshole more than anything else. Which is a rare kind among youtubers.
Any youtube channel series that analyses zelda games like Matt did?
>>344896682
>or those spiked anvils that circle the floor in the Ice Cave.
That's literally the point where I turned the video off. The traps move in a set pattern and when you enter the room you get a clear view of the entire route they travel on. HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO REACT TO SOMETHING THAT MOVES ON A FIXED TRACK
>>344896227
Their Dead Rising playthrough makes me curious just how badly he would fail at MM.
I like people like MatthewMatosis, and Joseph Anderson, and Noah Gervais BUT
the problem is they're all dry as fuck. I wish there was an analysis channel that actually had more humor to it than none at all.
Superbunny Hop: Evolution of Dark Souls Level Design is a good watch
>>344897361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU-0Ijj-ZHA
>Has claimed to have played Ocarina at least 3 times
>Has no memory of various enemies or mechanics
Is it normal for people to have this bad a memory? Usually when I re-play Zelda games I remember most of the puzzle solutions as soon as I see them
>>344897456
It's one thing to not like a game. It's another thing to spread misinformation en masse.
Joseph Anderson does some good videos, I'd recommend his stuff on The Witness and his Souls videos in aprticular.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyhnYIvIKK_--PiJXCMKxQQ
I don't agree with everything he has to say, but it's a solid channel.
>>344897157
George isn't literally gay, is he?
clear out scrubs, hardcore analysis comin' through
>>344897716
MM has a few funny moments once in a while in his videos
personally laughed at his mgs4 install times and dragon time in ds
>>344897716
I think it's a welcome pendulum shift after we had too many AVGN wannabes focused more on being funny than saying anything useful.
You know what I would actually like? A show like Game Grumps, but with people who actually know about game design and who spend at least a little effort keeping their attention on the game and commenting on player experience. I don't expect it to be super dense like a scripted video, but listening to 2 people who know their stuff actually talking about their expertise would be a welcome show.
>>344897852
I usually remember a good chunk of them, but I can understand forgetting things here and there. For instance, I haven't played OoT in years, and forget how to do the Biggoron Sword sidequest.
>>344898126
>A show like Game Grumps, but with people who actually know about game design and who spend at least a little effort keeping their attention on the game and commenting on player experience. I don't expect it to be super dense like a scripted video, but listening to 2 people who know their stuff actually talking about their expertise would be a welcome show.
This would be nice.
Hard Mode: They also don't suck at video games.
>>344898128
Well I can't recite the whole game progression off the top of my head, but for instance if I was doing a sidequest and was told "deliver this to that guy" I would instantly recall where that guy is and the route to get there
>>344894785
Be careful anon
You might cut yourself from the edge
>>344895232
>joseph anderson
Used to like him until he said that the last of us was one of the greatest games ever made.
>>344898126
some of thesw1tchers playthroughs are pretty good about this, like their aria of sorrow, the no more heros, even their resident evil playthroughs were pretty good, even if they are filled with terrible puns and simpsons references
>calling what these faggot youtubers do """"analysis""""
The only one who isn't still in the playground is pannenkoek2012
>deep analysis criticism
>videogames
When will this shit stop already
>>344894429
Whilst its not necessarily deep, I follow a guy who does pretty entertaining Drakengard analysis videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__q_Nx9WbgY&list=PLI1L9JVl6TFdwfvKUuebNp_zOAL5XXDT5&index=1
>>344897810
That was fine Anon.
Why does everyone make a stink about this review?
>>344894331
None exist.
Fitzthistlewits
>>344898350
So you don't like him because he has one opinion you disagree with? Don't get me wrong, I'm not too keen on Last of Us myself, but saying you now don't like the guy over it is pretty silly.
>>344898679
It's because it was a positive review of Gone Home, I guess.
>>344898126
Staying professional while playing games with friends is hard, anon, and when just having fun gets you far more fame and money, who would?
>>344898424
Their Silent Hill 2 playthrough was solid, but I feel that it works better for those who have already beat it.
>that episode of Banjo-Kazooie where Arin learns the egg move, then proceeds to jump toward Conga
Even Jon was like "what the fuck are you doing"
I wonder how Arin will feel about BOTw with it being modeled after the first Zelda.
>>344894331
today I will remind them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp7f_nCKfFw
>>344899230
He'll probably ride it dry, especially with it being one of the most casual Zelda games yet.
>>344899230
>where the FUCK do I GO
>what the FUCK do I DO
>HOW the FUCK was I supposed to know THAT WOULD CATCH FIRE ABLBLBLBLB
>get me a FUCKING walkthrough Danny
>NO I won't press all the buttons
>>344895232
Just got back and see myself on here, thanks
>>344899380
>>344899487
He'd find a way to do both of these.
>>344899380
How so?
>>344899645
The absolute madman
>>344899487
>walks into freezing river
HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?!
>>344899487
Man Arin really is diet DSP isn't he?
>>344894331
>deep analysis criticism of game design
good you mean?
none, they're all faggots who played video games for some time and think they know shit when they really don't know that much
sage because e-celeb bait
>>344900017
Considering how fat he's gotten, I think "diet" is the last word to describe Arin these days.
>>344898234
Oh boy, you're asking for a lot with that Hard Mode. You realize how difficult it is to keep interesting conversation while you're paying attention to the game?
>>344894331Really Freakin' CleverThough that's more about design philosophy than nitty gritty mechanical design
>>344895592
Was Castlevania IV the one where he got stuck because he didn't know you were supposed to crawl under the spikes?
>>344895592
reminder that egoraptor sucks at mega man x
>>344899160
watching Arin play B-K was torture. I love that game to death
>>344899645
Realistically, I think he'll be complaining about not being told what to do, or travelling across the map making his tiny ADHD riddled brain hurt.
>>344900250
>>344895953
>Holy shit how do you die in Ocarina of Time?
Doing stuff like this.
>>344894331
Egoraptor was pretty on point until his Zelda video, which ironically killed any motivation for him to make more since no one liked it not even himself.
He'd be a lot better off if he never mentioned gamefeel ever again. It's a subjective intangible adjective that poorly describes a game's polish.
>>344900640
Unbelievable. If he's going to suck at the game, the least he could do is stock up on fairies.
>>344900250
>he talks about paleo diets, since he's trying not to be a fat fuck
>"you can still eat chocolate, just not that milk and sugar-added shit"
When did he get so Californian? He used to be a rural Floridian, for heaven's sake.
>>344900640
>>344900783
And by adjective I mean noun.
>>344900783
>Egoraptor was pretty on point until his Zelda video
>"developers treat gamers like idiots. they put all this unnecessary shit to tell you where to go."
>he proceeds to fuck up every single game after that sequelitis
>Naughty Bear, a game with waypoints and menus up the ass manages to lose him
>>344900640
Clams are truly the fiercest of foes.
>>344900837
So much of weight maintenance is in the diet. I wonder how much soda he drinks.
>>344900967
>clams
>not spooky skeletons
>>344900797
I cannot imagine why he would need them.
>>344894331
Here's a good review channel. His style reminds me of Jontron.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=scTydXiIco4
>>344900947
Considering how casual most games are today he's not wrong with what he said. Especially with who the main demographic of those games are. His point isn't invalid but it does make his idiocy that much more painful.
>>344894331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLIq4ceXZAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuYkCWFy4o(spanish)
>>344901135
But what about... two clams at once?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcDCIyWlRdc#t=04m30s.
>>344901135
>Has a Cucco taking up a C button slot
>in the Forest Temple
Holy shit dude
>>344900967
Truth.
>>344900783
>makes Castlevania video
>sucks shit at both
>makes Mega Man video
>sucks shit at classic and X
>every point about players pressing all buttons, exploring, paying attention to the environment is thrown out the window with every single 3D game he touches and struggles with
>Sequelitis doesn't even provide new information, it's regurgitated facts from the internet and other reviewers
He was never on point.
>>344900640
To be fair that is just shitty hit detection
Those clams are shit
Alarmhat is pretty based.;_;
>>344901187
It was only a matter of time before this was posted.
>>344901414
He has no excuse for getting hit when you can shield underwater, which sends the clam back and has it open its mouth while turning again.
>>344894572
>good criticism
>5k dislikes/5k likes on videos
If the audience disagrees with criticism on a game, than the reviewer is at fault
>>344901414
Yeah, but he had options. He just chose not to use them, then blamed the game.
>>344901604
Yes but he also shot it several times while it was open without it hitting.
Clams are buggy and bad in OoT
>>344901679
what options except shielding?
>>344901387
I don't think he's ever played the first one on camera and his time in 3 was limited. Both games were mostly played by Jon unless I missed something. And in all fairness you can't use footage of him playing when he's more focused on cracking unfunny jokes than on playing as a real measure of his skill, though I doubt he could stay focused anyways if he were to play them alone.
>>344901135
To be fair, Stalfos' are tough as fuck in OoT.
>>344901787
>fighting only one
>didn't shield
>>344901718
Well yeah, I'm not gonna deny that
But he just rammed his head into it, repeating the same thing that didnt work over and over.
He coulda just fuckin bailed too
>>344901847
I didn't say that instance was a tough one.
>>344901446
>he thinks people on modern /v/ were around 3 years ago when alarmhat made his dmc vids
Most of 4chan are underage newfags.
>>344901718
>what options except shielding?
For starters, he didn't even have to fight it.
>>344898126
>>344898234
So, something like the GDQ couch, but instead of speed running glitches, they talk about why a game does or doesn't work?
>>344898447
Not every game has extensive decompiling/analytical tools like SM64 senpai.
With a game like Dark Souls you gotta infer a lot.
Castlevania and Megaman X videos were really good, what went wrong with OoT?
Before anyone goes "hurr mad oot fanboy", OoT is not even in my top 3 favorite Zeldas
>>344901787
>use hookshot to make them drop their shield
>walk up and slash
OR
>walk up, wait for him to attack
>block it
>slash him
OR
>get close
>use spin slash to bypass skeleton shield
OR
>din's fire
So many options, none of which are difficult, and he chooses to suck.
>>344900321
Yes but before that he died way too many times on that part with the bonepilars that you can easily kill if you have a sub-weapon, but he never used them.
Anyway the whole playthrough was a disaster. He even finished Dracula X (which is a much harder game), but not IV, yet he dared to make an analysis on a game he never beat.
He also said that before the grumps video, the furthers he got in the game was stage 6.
>>344901373After he gets Hover Boots he doesn't take them off again until the final battle with Ganon
>>344902057
>use hookshot to make them drop their shield
>walk up and slash
I actually never knew that, thanks.
>>344902046
>what went wrong with OoT?
He let his bias blind him.
OoT has plenty of options to get through enemy defenses and obstacles are never hard to see. ALttP introduced most of the cutscenes and story elements he complained about and is heavily narrative-focused compared to the original Zelda.
>>344901997
Yes, exactly. If my friends were less casual I'd want to do something like this with them, but as it is now it wouldn't really work.
>>344902046
He was less focused on breaking down the designs of the games like he did with CV and MMX and more focused on talking about how much he sucked LttP's dick, disliked OoT, and utterly hated SS. It was just a rant about his opinions and his shitty justifications for his opinions that he expected people to take seriously. Unfortunately, many did.
>>344902046
>Castlevania and Megaman X videos were really good,
Because he's capable of playing those games.
>what went wrong with OoT?
He has no idea how to navigate a 3D space, and he always blames the game for his mistakes. With a bias like what he has, it's no surprise the video came out a steaming turd.
>play FNM at LGS
>Group of friends discussion somehow turned to Zelda
>Someone said I'm sorry, but OoT will alway be my favorite
>People berate him parroting Arin
When did it become popular to not like OoT? Does one chucklefuck really have this strong of an influence on people?
>>344902234
Yeah it is interesting how you can interact with many of the enemies in the game using your items.
Not that Arin would know, judging from the fact that he's got a friggin Cucco in one of his C-slots during the entirety of the forest temple.
>>344902506
>>344902249
Deku Nuts are always underused in OoT.
They're one of the best items
>>344902046
It was less of an analysis and more about him bitching about his incompetence when it comes to 3D games.
>mfw Suzy's Overwatch gameplay videos
>mfw especially the latest ones where Arin and Barry aren't there
>literally any time she loses she says the team is bad
>completely misses audio cues and many visual cues
>playing as 76 and ulting by accident when she tries to get the heal out
>picks Mercy, hears an enemy 76 ult, stands in plain sight, dies and then says "This is why you should protect your healer"
>only ever uses damage boost when no enemies are around, but constantly is looking for people to heal and not actually healing during combat
>typing things in chat while enemies are right in front of her
>"where is my team" after they all die while she did no healing
This is genuinely physically painful to watch.
>People ask for analysis of game design
>Direct them to actual game designers analyzing game design
>No one ever follows through because "it's boring"
nice
>>344898126
Something a bit similar by Easy Allies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCNnzEWy-1w&list=PLwa6fmqvU-4FUdjSGiMq_3_V2UCbq9yQL
Brandon Plays Pokemon is a show about a guy's first time playing through while a friend answers questions. Long-winded and indepth.
I don't play pokemon anymore but I really enjoy this show.
>>344902638
Say something about dads.
>>344902385
Yes, unfortunately.
Nobody's mentioned Sunder yet. Opinions on him? I think he seems pretty chill with his opinions.
>>344902385
Yeah. He used to make funny little cartoons that gained him a following and his first two videos lured people in and made them think he knew shit about 3D game design, or game design in general, so those that don't know any better just parrot what he said in the Zelda video because it was established to them in the previous 2 or 3 that he knew what he was talking about so they probably just assumed he was right in the Zelda one, too.
>>344896430
Fuck off back to /b/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hPFPjQ4pjo
>>344894331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPqwDGXxLhU
>>344902643
For real though this is fucking design 101 and basically none of the shitters posted ITT knows this or discuss games at this level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwPe3OHR04c
Of course it is an hour long and refers the watcher to several tomes so everyone prefer to watch """"funny""" videoes about clueless idiots.
>>344895592
>he's just good making teenagers laugh with funny voices.
>teenagers
His humour is fart noises, They target 8~13 year olds.
>>344898126
>>344898234
>>344900264
Try Chip and Ironicus. they are one of the least pretentious of the SA LPers
>>344898616
>Clemps
He's pretty good. Wasn't expecting him to be comedy but I'm okay with it
>>344898616
Hi luke >:^)))))))))))))))))))))))
What's /v/ opinion on ProJared?
Since someone already posted that guy who does story analysis (shittily), I wanna bring up smudboy since I think his analysis of Bioware's failings are pretty interesting.
>>344902234
It doesn't cause them to drop their shield, but they do get stunned into an exposed posed I guess.
Only enemy that you can grapple off their armor from is in Majora's Mask, the hoopaloop.
>>344894676
Errant Signal is a pretentious fuck.
>muh barbarians
Avoid.
>>344894572
Barry actually did a somewhat better follow up where he explained how the improvement of just one component would improve the entire game massively. It's not even that bad of an analysis compared to Arin's schlock, but then Barry is always more grounded than the rest.
Link so you don't have to traipse through all the other garbage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chYgDqWW6ho
>>344903736
Getting less frequent and worse and in quality as time goes on.
>>344903736
He can be pretty entertaining, but I don't agree with most of his actual critique on games. He's one of those YouTubers who (like Arin) feel for the "game design has rules" meme so it's pretty annoying to hear ProJared bring up A'SAUODFJ DIS IS BAD GAMEPLAY
>>344903736
I stopped watching after he went on a drunken rant about how most of the popular Pokemon are shit in one of his nuzlocke episodes.
>>344903736
>Bioshock Infinite is one of the best games I have ever played
>>344903736
Only know who he is because of the Breath of the Wild video. He seems to be a real Zelda fan, based on how the first thing he notices about the game is the intuitiveness of how the item reminders work now.
However, I haven't seen anything else, so I don't know what to think of him beyond that.
>>344894676
>matt
alright
>game maker's toolkit
tumblr stupidity
>errantsignal
pretentious at best
>>344903736
Most punchable face in youtube
But seriously, his reviews were okay at first. Objective and direct, however now he tries way too much to be funny with his facial expressions and stale bits; in my opinion he fails miserably at that. His SA 2 review made me stop watching his videos altogether. Also his let's plays are shit.
>>344894331
>deep analysis criticism
>complains about it taking too long to open a chest in OoT
Isn't it interesting that every youtuber who criticizes games lauded by those who can't see past nostalgia are instantly hated?
No pattern there, I'm sure.
>>344904641
>His SA 2 review made me stop watching his videos altogether
I hope it's because of his behavior and not because he pointed out how flawed it really is.
Pretty obvious man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6md3RA8bH40
>>344904015
Huh. That's a lot better than Arin's, excluding the meme humor.
>>344904816
>Isn't it interesting that every youtuber who criticizes games lauded by those who can't see past nostalgia are instantly hated?
Is the joke here that said youtubers are equally blinded by nostalgia and biased?
>>344904963
I'm not sure how seeing a games faults makes them blinded.
>>344905052
Every YouTuber who has done a "critical analysis" of a game they consider overrated has at least one video where they completely gush over another retro game that could be considered overrated, yet downplay its flaws.
>>344895232
Joseph Anderson does great videos but his taste is a little basic.
>>344904820
It was the editing, the jokes and his general smugness.
I agree that the game is not nearly as good as people often say but some of the points he made I didn't really agree with like the whole "knuckle's stages suck" thing but that's whatever.
>>344897412
t. Sonic fan
TUN
>WAITING
>>344894331
gametheory:^)
As someone that's in a small part of the games industry: don't look to youtube personalities for in-depth game design fundamentals. They'll give you only what they can guess from the point of view of a player, not as a developer.
That said, there are some good game design channels and very well written blog posts about various game design aspects. Here's a decent one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMggqenxuZc
>objective analysis
>objective criticism
this sophisty must die
For information that is genuinely in-depth and knowledgable, you should watch talks developer's give about their own games; the problems they came across and how they solved them, what they would do differently in the future, etc.
GDC constantly upload such lectures. They are often accessible enough for a layman to understand.
People with youtube channels are essentially like pop-scientists, but with less credibility. They'll tell you nothing you couldn't already determine yourself, or make inductive conclusions but act as though they are deductive.
Bonus points if any of these goofs try to summon the power of neuroscience to back up their assertions
>>344901787
Stalfos were the enemies you could get creative the most with.
>>344907185
Literally no one said these.
>>344904892
I got lost with the DR and the curve, I don't think he explained what DR was.
Matthewmatosis is okay
Bunnyhop, Satchbag, Errant signal and Gamers backpack or w/e are all boring shit though, about ludonarrative dissonance and other hipster garbage
>>344907538
This was a surprisingly good series that went into details I had never heard before from anywhere else, but god damn that host pisses me off.
>>344907538
the rhetoric used will never emphasise subjectivity. you will rarely hear "i feel" or "i think" in criticism of art. it is almost always "this game/movie/album is good/bad/whatever".
the rhetoric shrouds itself in objectivity, as though the object possesses these properties, rather than what is truly happening: the individual, subjective perception of these properties. a game is not inherently bad, because bad implies value and value is inherently subjective.
>>344907116
>They'll give you only what they can guess from the point of view of a player, not as a developer.
Isn't that what most critics are? What movie critics are actual movie directors?
>>344894434
>one chin
>>344897412
His videos aren't really that much in-depth like Matthew for example, but his videos ares till nice since they are just about a nice guy giving his opinion on games and sharing his "research" and thoughts.
>>344908323
>Isn't that what most critics are?
You are one step closer to realising that critics are just layman with a platform they use to persuade, and that there is no reason their opinion is better than yours
>>344901989
>he didnt have to fight it
he didnt have to turn on the n64 and the camera either. but he did so you and a fuckload of other anons could shit talk him
>>344908375
The rest are tucked into his shirt.
>>344897412
If people keep bringing up a name maybe the idea would be to watch another video instead of bitching about the only one you've seen.
>>344908613I imply this but rereading my own post it seems it wasn't clear
>>344904641
>punchable
i dont see why you couldnt have just called him weird looking or ugly. control your temper mister
He doesnt really to very indepth, or go deep, but Angry Joe has always been my go to guy for a vidya review. He is pretty unbiased and a chill guy.
>>344908323
I mean it's not unheard of. Yahtzee makes games and is a critic but really how does that elevate his opinions on game design when he's also a giant casual who can't deal with things like micromanagement.
>>344908178
I get what you're saying but I think what you want is a big ask. Natural language and common persuasion like these favours that kind of rhetoric. It keeps things simple.
I think it's understandable that you'd rarely see anyone overcome that sort of simple rhetoric in a youtube video or a media studies major's blog. The further you move towards an academic view of things the less entertaining it will be.
It's best to just learn to translate the objective sounding claims into the subjective as you hear it and not fight a losing battle with dummies.
>>344909276
>It's best to just learn to translate the objective sounding claims into the subjective as you hear it
This is the main reason why I avoid consuming criticism of art. I am too impressionable. Even when I know something to be false, if the language is persuasive it starts to seep in, even to my conscious disapproval. Perhaps it is something common to a lot of people, I dunno.
The thing that adds extra irony is that I often find that the more designed a point is to be persuasive, the more likely it is to be intellectualised in nature, and therefore the more likely it is that they have grown distant from the truth of how they perceive something, if you get what I'm saying
SBH is more of a games journalist than a in depth reviewer, he's hetter at explaining the context behind certain things and how it adds or detracts from it than being in-depth about mechanics and such, his Konami videos, his MGS2 video and his History of Bots video are the best
He also rarely ever completely rips on games, except maybe Dishonored and Battlefield 3's campaign
>>344904015
I'm more than a third of the way into the video and all he's said in that time frame is that the sky looks like farts.
>>344894572
MGSV is an amazing game fucktard.
>>344910561
he said it's flawed
if you can't accept that, you're blind fanboy
>>344894331
not that one.
>>344909112
Angry Joe was caught accepting bribes for video reviews and lashed out at his fan base when he was caught.
>>344909112
>He is pretty unbiased
>paid to give good reviews
>>344908963
thanks for calling me out, anon. I will now change my evil ways, for you.
>>344894331
Could someone explain this whole video review/analysis phenomenon to me? For any sort of review or analysis I'd rather read text, possibly with short video clips inserted to demonstrate specific points. I see how having someone's voice lets them convey their emotions more strongly but that only detracts from an analysis of a game.
>>344910047
That's the crux of good critique though, isn't it?:
Outlining your views on something clearly and truthfully but also being persuasive and enjoyable to read/listen to.
It's the responsibility of the audience not to follow it too blindly and properly assess their assessment of the art. Something I'm sure is also a big ask when they're just video games to most people.
>>344911335
Having video footage at the same time more elegantly demonstrates exactly what they're talking about basically to prove they're not chatting shit.
>>344901414
They're fine. I played the game a few months ago and had ZERO problem with them.
>>344894331
Video can never compete with the written word.
culture.vg is the most in-depth, general analysis you're going to find. The rest are sites usually dedicated to specific genres, shmups.com, RPG Codex, Hardcore Gaming 101, etc.
>>344896682
>>344897615
He later admitted he was wrong about that sort of thing because of object permanence. He does so while they're on their way to the Ice Cavern.
This is pretty much what I designed my channel around OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWgvKPu6RJE
>>344901718
>>what options except shielding?
Taking off the iron boots and just swimming over it.
>>344895232
No Noah Gervais triggers me because he made a retrospective on the -shock games without finishing or even wikipediaing System Shock 1
I don't care that he's an sjw, I care that he makes Extra Credits look good by comparison
>>344897716
>analysis
>humor
you're everything wrong with this generation
go watch extra credits
>>344913128
>Noah Gervais
>Noah "Bioshock is the perfect evolution of the Shock Series" Cuckwell-Gervais.
>>344913128
>You can choose which staircase to go up and they lead to the same destination. Choices you guys!
The whole time he talks about infinite it sounds like he's trying to like it and will turn anything into some sort of message.
>>344909214
yahtzee makes mediocre point and click games that nobody would have heard of if he wasn't yahtzee, it doesn't count
>>344913537
>Noah "Doesn't know Ultima Underworld exists" Gervais
>Noah "System Shock 2 simplified System Shock 1 by adding RPG elements and weapon degradation" Gervais
>>344913352
>extra credits
>>344908323
movies are alot easier to analyize than video games t b h
there's a huge gulf of understanding between designers who know their shit and the common perceptions of the video gaming public
>>344913857
That image makes me so fucking mad
>>344896870
I find him kind of rambly.
Got any specific videos from his you can recommend?
>>344896115
>>344908743
It's literally his fucking job anon.
>>344896115
Anon... Arin needed to look up a guide, TO FIND THE SHIELD.
>>344896115
>>344915703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp7f_nCKfFw
How can anyone be this bad?
>>344916051
To each there own but good god how did I ever find this watchable?
>>344916698
You were a kid or you wanted a friendship simulator
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>>344917184
>you wanted a friendship simulator
I guess that explains it.
Arin and Suzy need to release a sextape with Ross and Danny.
>>344916698
I mostly put it down to being young and stupider,a whole lot can happen to you you over a few years.Jon was better, it didn't feel as forced as it is now.
>>344911175
>>344911256
Would love some sauce on that
>>344917424
A sextape with all of them would be Danny fucking Arin, whose giving Ross a blowjob and declaring that him getting fucked in the ass as he pleasures another man's shaft isn't gay while Suzy awkwardly sits on the side of the room.
>>344917459
>Jon was better
Jon was a dick but I would've preferred Jon and Danny instead of Arin, he's just the most unlikable person in existence.
>>344917424
tell me you wouldn't wanna bury your face is her fat, soft ass
@344917483
>I can't use Google
Not even worth a (You).
>>344894331
Egoraptor looks like that first ugly girl you get with one night while you were drinking and you end up staying at her place, cause you're too drunk to drive home.
You know that ugly, older woman that falls in love with you, but, you just end up ignoring her, and when you see her at the grocery store, you turn your head and hope that she doesn't notice you?
That fucking picture where he pulls his head back and has that ugly triple chin, it just makes me think of some ugly woman,laying on her back and taking it.
And that is why I can't watch anything by him. It just reminds me of bad decisions and ugly women with loverly large areolas.
>>344901187
Proud Swordling here!
Love his Honest and Objective videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FofA3c6dYvU
>>344917850
>>344917459
Haven't watch them for about a year since I decided to just listen to music rather than podcast them but the humour was pretty bad.
It felt like when you're put on a camera and told "be funny!"
You just talk loudly, Make silly noises and run with everything until it's dead, Maybe just reword someone else's jokes to make them yours or something.
>Game Grumps
How did they go from this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoB543m9Zzw
...To this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czgYrAfn2U
Completely baffles me.
I miss JonTron so much. I tried to like Danny for almost a year, and it still fucking sucks. The only redeeming quality about Danny is his musically ability and his storytelling. Even his strong points are just him telling stories about how he was a stoner for several years of his life.
He sucks at improv.
He sucks at articulating points.
He sucks at relating his experiences to other people.
Arin is the worst with zero redeeming qualities. Looking back at his Awesome series, he really is nothing but a screaming mongoloid that thinks doing funny voices and screaming is the pinacle of comedy. The only time I've genuinely liked Arin post-Jontron was in Markiplier's Balloon video, and I can't believe I'm bringing that up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbZi_81TtUk
Genuine human emotion. No bullshit. No screaming. Just hanging out.
That's what Game Grumps used to be. About hanging out with a couple of friends and talking and bullshitting. Now it's become something where they can just sell merch and make noises.
>>344897716
>I need random humor in my analysis or it makes me bored
>>344904493
I can understand the other two, and I actually like them but just curious, what makes GMT tumblr stupidity?
>>344917861
I absolutely love how people who think Suzy is hot never post recent shots of her.
>>344894331
This guy has some pretty top notch vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdl81VHZnp4
