Why does /v/ hate this game?
>>344866702
>image.jpg
greetings, reddit
>>344866702
because /v/ is a contrarian board
/thread
>>344866702
No mods; No purchase.
>>344867415
>you have a phone? normie!!
It's not Doom.
>>344868076
But it says DOOM right on the cover
>>344868298
Yeah it's DOOM but not Doom.
I got it for free with the Viii Ranger mobo. Pretty good game desu. Story is shite but gameplay is still preddy gud 100!
>>344867869
>Having an iShit
>>344867784
/thread
It's pretty fun, it just keeps fucking crashing randomly
>>344868528
/thread
>>344866702
>drm
>shit modding
>shit multi
>arenas
>upgrade system
Plenty of reasons. Still liked the solo a lot
>>344868076
Doom4 and Doom2 have about the same amount of more stuff compared to Doom1. So if Doom4 isn't Doom enough compared to Doom2, then neither is Doom1.
Also Doom4 is longer than Ultimate and longer than 2.
>>344867845
when was the last time you saw a quality mod for a game that has no editor?
>>344866702
>>344868791
>>drm
Can anyone explain the downsides of Denuvo for me real quick? I have yet to have any problems with it. Far Cry 2's DRM disables my sound card, and STALKER Clear Sky's DRM causes saves to load for 3 minutes, but Doom works just fine even offline.
>>344868981
Does it count as a "quality" mod if the original game is so shitty and filled with unnecessary garbage that a simple mod made without an editor to get rid of that shit is enough to make it decent?
>>344869134
>forgot pic
>>344866702
>Why does /v/ hate this game?
What? Again?
Who?
>>344869020
>Can anyone explain the downsides of Denuvo for me real quick?
They can't pirate the game.
>>344866702
Repetitive as shit.
>>344869134
>>344869210
what's the mod? hud removal? ohh and btw denuvo doesn't prevent modding.
>>344867415
>>344869003
Not OP here but let me get this straight... /v/ hates reddit because it's literally the place where the most popular thing gets raised to the top, and as it happens >>344867784 >/v/ is a contrarian board
It finally makes sense to me. Now it's all so simple that I feel like an idiot for not seeing it before.
>>344869391
so is the original
Tried the demo out, it just isn't fun. It's fast but not fast enough and the glory kill mechanic fucking sucks.
I'm not gonna pretend I'm some big Doom enthusiast, but I had fun finishing the first two games. I got bored of 4 before I was done with one level.
>>344869487
No, levels had quite a lot of variation to them, as well as the fact that each level had different enemy and ammo combinations, which lead you to have different strategies depending on the level. Also the difficulty balancing was much better.
>>344869414
Increases survival difficulty, makes economy less forgiving and disables unnecessary handholding and hud elements. You only get a compass with a vague directional indicator pointing at your objective, you don't get an enemy-tracking radar with a big pointer on the screen telling you exactly where to go.
>>344869391
This to be honest men. Only play the campaign and have trouble finishing it because each scenario is literally the same. Playing in the hardest difficulty available and find it easy as long as you don't stand in one spot for more than 2 seconds.
I don't give a rats ass if the originals were like this, this seems like lazy game design.
>>344866702
Did you know /v/ is a collection of individuals and not one person?
so like people can like Doom but other people that post on /v/ can hate Doom
WHOA!!
>>344869020
It's only a downside for poorfags aka dirty pirates
>>344869760
>mfw people shit on the level designs when they are absolutely fucking god tier
You can't fucking tell me these levels aren't amazing, Foundry is one of the best fucking levels in YEARS
>>344869915
...And the free demo was the atrocious intro level
>>344866702
>hate
Implying. Filename related
New Doom is the Ghostbusters of gaming.
>>344869020
>Can anyone explain the downsides of Denuvo for me real quick?
Takes a huge hit on CPU performance.
No mods.
Allegedly damages SSDs.
>>344870180
Ghostjusters was surprisingly "not the worst thing ever". NuDoom was surprisingly, legitimately enjoyable. It's more like the Deadpool of vidya
>unlock treadmill
>pinata enemies
>picking something up is a cutscene
>chainsaw is a cutscene
>killing something is a cutscene
>game constantly sets you up to watch the boring cutscenes
>instead of level design, all encounters are closed rooms where sequentially spawning enemies give you health and items
>>344870349
>Ghostbusters was surprisingly "not the worst thing ever"
t. Nu-male beta cuck
>>344870180
>>344870262
>>344870354
Stop namefagging you filthy /tv/ fuck
>>344870463
I was going to but fuck you.
/v/ was expecting the new Doom to be shit. Many were considering they turbulent development cycle, negative reception of the multiplayer beta, and the refusal to send out review copies.
Doom (2016) is incredible. It is one of the best FPS games in many years. /v/ was wrong, it hurts their pride, so they don't talk about it and claim that it's shit when it's brought up.
>>344868981
- Online multiplayer for Nuclear Throne, through hacking the fuck out of the game
- All of the weapon mods for Duck Game, and the fact that mod support for it was initially added by a fan...and then officially that same mod got integrated into the actual game by the developer
There is no reason to not allow mods, ever. They will always make the game last longer and be more enjoyable.
>>344870782
>It is one of the best FPS games in many years
>>344870101
i didnt order a gold bar, midas.
>>344866702
Because you can't pirate it
>>344869436
>Not OP here but
well it's just my opinion that it's a fun game and i enjoy it very much :)
I respect your opinion though, friend!
>>344871243
>having a calm and reasonable opinion while frog posting
>>344869436
You're giving too much thought into the reddit meme.
>>344870395
>unlock treadmill
This meme needs to die. You pick between two weapon upgrades when you find a drone, and the descriptions are detailed enough for you to know what you're getting (like picking the explosive alt for the Shotgun instead of the burst because you want something with splash that's not rockets, etc.). You can pick what you think will fit your playstyle best without getting blindsided too much, as they're pretty much all useful in some way (even the AR scope is great when maxed)
You can also safely ignore most (maybe even all) level challenges and still max everything easily - The game has quite a bit of redundancy regarding upgrade points, as it has over 20 "free" points past max - All so you can focus on the action and not worry about it if you want to
The argent suit upgrades are also straightforward as fuck - Permanent health, armor or ammo upgrades
>>344871018
Oops! I forgot I'm not allowed to like games on /v/.
>>344870262
Absolutely no proof of any of that shit
It's not a Doom game. But it's a very fun Painkiller game.
>>344866702
its a good game
some people hate drm and shit and never played it to know its quality, as you can see from other replies
>>344871395
but that's exactly what it is my friend
A responsible respectable opinion
And it is of my own personal taste that i enjoy this video game that others seem to, for reasons lost to me, dislike
>>344871708
Yeah but it doesn't excuse the posting of stale memes or the reddit-like behavior.
>>344866702
I didn't hate it. It's probably the best straight FPS that's gonna be released this year. It got a little boring and repetitive near the end, but overall it felt like a doom game.
>>344871776
mmmm but what is wrong with that friend?
It's not like i am trying to shitpost
>>344871613
Denuvo fucking up with mods is a long-established fact, which is especially bad in a fucking Doom game.
The CPU problems are more speculative but it's almost certainly true, there is nothing in the game that could take so much CPU
>>344866702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss8SyOhqk1I
>>344866702
I didn't hate it, but there certainly were things I didn't like
>the entirety of the level design and fights in the game boil down to painkiller style arena battles with enemies that periodically spawn in
>levels have no real themes, gimmicks or variety to them outside of introducing new enemy types, every level has a balanced amount of enemy types and enough ammo for all guns available at that point
>completely arbitrary upgrade system that has you fiddling with 3 different menus and doing dumb challenges because every game apparently needs progression mechanics these days
>"secrets" that are conveniently marked on your map (even without the dumb upgrade that makes them even easier to find) and they're almost mandatory if you want those upgrades, if you have OCD the game probably feels like a collectathon
>rune challenges are terrible and also ruin the pacing since you're forced to do them to unlock all 3 slots
>intro gives you the idea that the story is going to be mostly irrelevant and won't be getting in the way of what matters (the gameplay), but throughout the rest of the game there's plenty of unskippable cutscenes and NPC monologues where you're forced to wait
>the pump-action shotgun and plasma rifle sound and feel terrible and would be useless if it weren't for their alt-fires
>some enemy types like revenants and lost souls are complete non-threats
>no modding, just snapcrap
>>344866702
Why do you make this thread every day?
>>344871906
>there is nothing in the game that could take so much CPU
What the fuck? Are you a game developer? How do you have any clue what the game is doing or how much CPU it should or shouldn't be using? Plenty of games prior to Denuvo use massive amounts of CPU
>>344871938
>max 12 live demons at any time
>>344871938
>expecting Classic Doom-tier enemy numbers with extensively shaded, modern 3D models loading complex animations from memory every frame
The only way you're getting what you want is either by going back to sprites or having a distinctly more low-poly look to everything (AKA having your AAA game be almost unmarketable because the larger public doesn't want to play an old-looking game)
Most of /v/ have yet to play this game since it has denuvo.
>>344872228
It's a bit easier to have arbitrary numbers of live demons when they're represented by rotating 2d sprites instead of 10k+ polygon 3d models
>>344872205
People making performance tests for Doom reported that problem. The game takes a huge hit on CPU performance for no apparent reason.
Not the first time Denuvo seems to fuck up with performance either. So you just apply Occam's Razor and come to the logical conclusion.
>>344872098
>levels have no real themes
What?
>Mars facility have an industrial look
>Argent Tower is a fucking tower that does energy shit
>Lazarus Labs looks like a laboratory with white walls
>Hell is fucking Hell
>VEGA room looks like a clean room with lots of computers
>>344868981
Long war for xcom.
>>344872338
How about optimizing the damn game? Have you ever heard of LOD?
>>344872424
Not sure you understand what occam's razor is if you think an elaborate DRM scheme is to blame for CPU hits, when a much more likely explanation is the system stress from rendering incredibly visually detailed environments
Absolute poorfag here. Will doom run on q6600 + r7 360 now that vulkan is out?
The shills just arrived in full, please delete the thread OP.
My new mainboard came with a key for the new DOOM. I really had to force myself to finish it at the end. It gets incredibly boring to the end. The weapons are shit, I mostly ended up using the first Combat Shotgun, Gauss Cannon and for boss fights the Chaingun. All other weapons felt like shit even though I had most upgrades for them.
>>344868981
Just Cause 2 MP. It got so good the devs started supporting it
>>344868981
Bunch of mods for every single Paradox grand strategy ever made
Singpleplayer was fun
Multiplayer is meh
Snapmap is confusing but ok i guess
>>344872670
>weapons are shit
Just how much of a pleb do you have to be to formulate such a wrong opinion
>>344872670
Motherboards come with game keys now? I thought only grafix cards did that, aren't motherboards cheap as shit?
>>344872670
>and for boss fights the Chaingun
Really? Chaingun is not good for bosses because even with max ammo capacity it will do bleh damage and waste all your ammo. Heavy AR with maxed scope (Uranium rounds) outclasses any Chaingun spec by a country mile while wasting far less ammo
>>344868454
It's doom. Why would you want a story
>>344872468
I'm not talking about the aesthetic of the levels. Besides the foundry and the fourth level (whatever it was called) which stand out since they're so much more open, they all follow the same formula and barely change things up.
>>344869436
reddit is overly positive
4chan is overly negative
>>344868981
>all these replies
You got btfo son
>>344868726
/tred
>>344872338
>L4D could handle hundreds of zombies on-screen on inferior hardware
>Bethesdoom can't handle more than 12 enemies at a given moment
>>344872205
Denuvo is literally a shit-fest VM that mutates the game code in real-time to hide where the crackable parts are.
The mere requirement of such a VM would be that it needs lots of CPU to operate.
Do some study about Denuvo before being a stupid faggot DRM shill.
>>344872965
>hundreds
Try 40 and it almost never went that high
>>344872939
>reddit is overly positive
/r/Games is probably one of the most negative boards on the entire net, other than this one. They hate practically everything other than Valve games
>>344872832
yea here: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Asus-Z170-A-Intel-Z170-So-1151-Dual-Channel-DDR4-ATX-Retail_1009410.html
>>344872853
By the time I came around the first Boss fights I already maxed out the mobile turret tree of the Chaingun. I emptied my Gauss Rifle and then emptied my Chaingun on them until he dropped Ammo and then went back to the Gauss. Problems werent.
>>344872965
L4D looks like shit in comparison to NuD44M
>>344873176
>NuD44M
Makes no sense, you really gotta decide on either D44M or nuDOOM
You can call the next one after this nuD44M
>>344872965
It was not "hundreds" and the game made quite a lot of visual concessions to reach even that. Enemies look rather low-poly in both L4D games, the games were rather bad looking even for when they launched
>>344871018
>>344871018
/v/ literally doesn't like any FPS that isn't at least 6 years old, I forgot.
>>344873303
EYE: Divine Cybermancy came out 5 years ago
>>344869436
>it's a "Reddit analysis" episode
>>344868449
Wanna know how I know you're a doombabby?Cause you never drew DOOM logo on your notebook in the 90s.
>>344872365
Why do people keep using this stupid argument? Machine limitations don't matter. Tomorrow's computers will run this shit at fucking future speed. There is no reason to impose such limits.
>>344873794
You sell your game on the present to people with a range of current hardware. It needs to run and play well now, not to people with the specs of future computers
>>344873794
>he still hasn't realized hardware improvement is leveling out
kek
>>344866702
Because /v/ is full of fucking babies crying cause "m-muh Doom was changed >;(".
You fucks are so close minded that you cannot accept change in your precious franchise. Before you get all pissy with me, the game is not perfect and I know that. But it does many good things that substantially outweigh the questionable ones. But oh no, you want the level of innovation that oc Doom brough to the table, and God forbid they try anything new because it tampers with the old mechanics and THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
You nostalgia ridden faggots are a bunch of hypocrites. You want innovation, you want new conceps, you want new experiences, but as soon as someone takes your franchise and gives it a fresh coat of paint to mantain relevancy in the current times you sperg the fuck out and complain about it anyway.
>>344874051
>fresh coat of paint = innovation
>>344873414
A convoluted FPS with shit for brain AI pandering to the 5deep4edgelords.
>>344874282
A fun as fuck horde FPS with several great upgrade systems and possibilities for different builds where you can ignore the story if you feel like it's pretentious
>>344873794
Yeah man, thats why Crysis was such as sucesss.
Atleast Doom 3 had actual mods.
>>344873964
It's a self imposed limitation for custom made levels you daft bugger. They could make the levels they are selling run on today's hardware but there is NO reason to impose that limitation on people making their own maps! D44M mapping is forever crippled by this decision! Current hardware is NOT relevant. 10 years from now when even toasters have a terabyte of ram and measure their CPU speed in jiggawhats a new D44M map will still only be able to have only 12 monsters and a handful of predesigned rooms.
Meanwhile the real Doom will still have new content being made and it will be incredible.
>>344874416
That was actually due to pirates
>>344874127
That's the point, fuccboi.
They updated the looks. They introduced new mechanics, albeit not being very creative mechanics. In the end it just creates a bit of a progression sense without being very obstructive.
But I forgot, it's still a shit game because it's NOT og Doom.
Bloom and motion blur are two things I turn off first in any game.
>>344874935
Bloom I keep on because I love how it looks personally. Motion blur tho, yes I turn off
>>344874463
I love how cheerfully determined the hellknight looks.
>>344873964
But the original doom's longevity is a part of the reason they were able to make and sell this game now.
>>344874394
>implying 90% of the people who purchased E.Y.E. even bothered to create different build
>implying there's more than ten of you autists that clocked in more than 15+ hours beside 100% completionistConvoluted and edgy.
>>344870395
>killing something is a cutscene
IT LITERALLY TAKES HALF A SECOND TO DO A GLORY KILL AND IT'S FUN AS FUCK.
>>344875198
Convoluted just means you didn't watch the tutorial videos m8
>shoot stuff
>level up your stats
>spend brozouf on cyberupgrades to your body or new abilities
Man so fucking convoluted. Those damn frogs making indecipherable games amirite
>>344871395
ur supposed to use that when someone is being earnest tho
>>344868589
No, seriously, it's not even a fedora opinion, knowing Apple is shit is just common sense.
>>344874416
>>344874557
Actually Crysis was a success for a PC game It's one of the top-selling PC games of all time. Crytek had unreasonable expectations. They blamed piracy for lost sales even though they almost hit Doom 3 levels. Half life and Half Life 2 sold much more although a good explanation of that would be that those games were "platforms" and GoldSource and Source would be used for tons of mods and videos.
There needed to be more hell levels.
Crazy shit like big castles and mindfuck architecture.
Also more stuff like crushers, traps, etc.
>>344875354
Copypasted for future EYE threads since it gets praised for it's complex and in-depth leveling system:
>shoot stuff
>level up your stats
>spend points on body or new abilities
The possibilities...!
>>344866702
But plenty of people on here liked it a lot
>>344875837
Okay, you're right. You won the discussion, good job!That means the game isn't convoluted you dumb slut
>>344866702
I was just playing it. Sucks that steam overlay can't take a screenshot without crashing in Vulkan.
>>344873724
>draw doom logo in notebook at school
>other kids asking what band is that
>say nothing because i don't want them to think i'm some kind of a nerd
>>344875939
>copypaste your post
>my words
It seems my previous post went over your head, but I'm not going to bother explaining to a muppet.
>>344876057
>mfw doom is a crust punk band with the same logo
>>344872939
Reddit is "overly positive" because anything that isn't the majority opinion gets downvoted into the ground.
>>344876042
I forgot my picture.
>>344876329
>saving a post just to show people who like EYE how easy and shallow it is
>after crying about how convoluted and hard to get into it is
Can't have it both ways m81
Enjoy shitposting about a game because you're too lazy to watch 5 minutes of tutorials
>>344876532
So anything that is described convoluted is automatically considered hard and they just need to put more effort now? Good thing you're not an engineer.
The only reason I stumbled upon this thread is to shitpost D44M, I like to shitpost on bad video games and have people like (You) respond to me, cheers.
>>344874465
Might get patched, who knows?
>>344873414
>tfw you loved EYE and D44M
>>344873243
Nude Oom Four?
>>344877039
Maybe. Still an amazing fuckup to have made it that way to begin with.
>>344870782
Objectively this.
I'm mostly an RPG player, with Dark Souls being my favorite franchise, and Doom is my GOTY so far. Even better than Dark Souls 3. Granted I did play it on PC at 1440p 144hz, but still a fantastic experience.
>>344876923
I don't give a shit what you think about the game, I'm telling you to keep your shitposting consistent
You can't just flipflop between "waaaaaaah it's so convoluted" and "HAH I KNEW IT; THE GAME IS ACTUALLY QUITE SHALLOW AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND", it just makes you seem insane
>>344866702
What's with all these "WHY DOES /V/ HATE D44M!?!?!" threads lately?
When the game first came out I remember most people on here praising the single player portion of the game, while either calling the rest garbage or not talking about it.
>>344877187
Right? I don't know what Bethesda was thinking. They had to have known that charging for multiplayer DLC in a community this large wouldn't fly.
>>344877279
Nice projection, never said anything about it being shallow and easy to understand; you literally gave me something to put in a notepad for future use. Are you even keeping up with this conversation or too busy spilling your mountain dew on your shorts? Did you get dropped on the head as a child cause your mother hated how illiterate you are?Holy shit you're fun to derail this thread while I wait for this database to reboot.
>>344870782
But the multi half IS objectively shit.
The singleplayer OTOH is fantastic.
The game is bipolar.
>>344872670
Try playing on a harder difficulty. I started on ultra violence and it was very challenging, I had to use every weapon to survive.
>>344877530
You should really stop with the childish insults as well, this isn't tumblr where someone gets triggered if you call him names
>two people is a derail
hurr durr
>>344866702
what /v/ doesn't hate?
>>344874463
>Shepard.
>>344877710
sucking dicks
>>344877768
I don't see the resemblance
>>344877710Undertail :^)
>>344877693
>he literally posted to tell me to stop namecalling
>dropped previous statement to be consistent shitposter altogether
Not even going to retort about the projection? Alright, our conversation has already brought this thread past 100+ replies and we've probably taken 10+ bringing it back to front page that brings in possible new posters shitters or not. Now go ahead to your last resort that name-calling is childish and immature on an imageboard where fag gets thrown left and right.
>>344877049
I know that feeling bro.
>>344878165
That's exactly my point mate, what do you think tired insults are gonna achieve on a website where everyone gets called fag 100 times a day? Do you think you hurt my feelings?
>>dropped previous statement to be consistent shitposter altogether
Cause I already made it, no need to repeat myself
>>344866702
1:Because Denuvo. I refuse to support a game with this cancerous anti consumer DRM. No I'm not a pirate, no damage control for you.
2: The only "Doom" thing the game does is fucking look like it.
3: it's slow, and just because it's fast compared to modern shit shooters doesn't mean it's fast. It's painfully slow for what it claims to be.
4: the weapons feel like shit, even after upgrading which shouldn't be a fucking thing in the first place.
5: the motherfucking glory kills should not be a thing. No excuses, no damage control, no nothing.
6: BETHESDA/ZENIMAX'S MOTHERFUCKING DAMAGE CONTROL MARKETERS FORCING THIS AND EVERY GAME THEY FUCKING RELEASE DOWN OUR FUCKING THROATS FOR FUCKING MONTHS AT A GOD DAMN TIME UNTIL THEIR MARKETING CONTRACT EXPIRES. JUST FUCKING LEAVE! GO MARKET AT SOME HUGBOX.
This is CONSOLE BABBYS doom, not a real Doom title.
>>344878676
>refuse to support game
>t-totally not a pirate though guys
>knows how the weapons feel
come on man don't lie about pirating it
>>344866702
I don't. It's the best singleplayer FPS since Serious Sam: The Second Encounter
>>344878789
I didn't, I played it on my friends PC because he was crying about it being "the next best thing". Guess what? He's a COD kiddie.
Some of us get outside and meet people.
>>344878495
I legitimately wanted to know if you were dropped as a child because you seem incapable of keeping a comprehensive conversation between ourselves. Since you are not answering I can only assume that you were unloved and I shall no longer hammer that out of you. You made your point, I responded that you were projecting with a farce that I'm contradicting myself, and you have no retort other than submitting to the fact you were wrong.
>>344878919
nice try but we all know people playing vidya on PC don't have any friends
>>344866702
the only things that really disappointed me are as follows: why does our pal cybie look so weird and why are his fights scripted annoyances? also, why the fuck did it take so long to introduce pinkies? that shit should have started out the gate.
separately, do people put out actual good shit on snap map? i want a version of this where i don't have to run from one arena to the next.
>>344879272
Whatever you gotta tell yourself man.
>>344866702
Because it's a bad game that did not fit in with the rest of the franchise.
You know why here are people like you crawling out of the woodwork to say that it's actually good?
Because you're a contrarian shitter that needs hipster cred for liking the older game even if it was trash.
People like you are going to start doing shit like praise Skyrim's story once the new Elder Scrolls game comes out. You people just function like that.
The only people who hate it are the ones who can't afford it.
>>344877049
"eye" know, right?It's funny, laugh.
>>344877391
It's because most Doom 2016-related threads were shitting on it all the way up until release.
>>344877578
I will replay the gamewith my Steam Controller.
By the way why do I get no extra chievo for finishing the game on a higher difficulty as the babbies who did it on easy or medium?
>>344880215
isn't there some moe anime chick who always says eye instead of I? I just remember that from retarded avatarfags
>>344880510
Cirno?
This game would be a great shooter if it was a shooter
>Half the game you are starved for ammo, forced to melee
>The other half you are starved for health, forced to melee
>In arenas where you're forced to move around a lot and deal damage to multiple enemies at a time, they heal back to 50% health if you don't melee them within the time limit
Here's how to fix the game:
>Rocket boosters from the start
>Get weapons at least twice as fast
>Health comes from enemies regardless of melee finishers
>Enemies don't heal if not melee finished
There now it's DOOM instead of D44M
![MJF-by-Seliger-May-2010-for-homepage-retouched_4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/h7kTzYC.jpg "MJF-by-Seliger-May-2010-for-homepage-retouched_4[1].jpg")
>>344881765
>Starved for health/ammo
Are you pic related? Because I was never starved for either on even the highest difficulty setting.
>>344881765
>starved for ammo
Nigga what? They throw so much ammo and health at you it's fucking ridiculous. Not one time did i run out of ammo in the entire game
>>344874463
Doom 3 is criminally-underrated imo, back when it was competing with HL2, I liked it a lot more, and thought it looked a lot prettier. HL2 had detailed open environments with a lot of shit happening, but I thought Doom 3 had the better gunplay and grafix in general
Absolute HD is pretty as fuck
>>344882014
Ok, the health one is less serious than the ammo one, but until you upgrade your ammo capacity at least twice, if not three times, it's most efficient to melee at least half the enemies
It's just not fun how melee finishers are an integral part of the gameplay and not an edgy bonus like in brutal doom
And seriously, the maneuverability and weapon deployment complaints are indefensible. It's just not fun without double jumping and only having a sine shotgun and machine gun for as long as you do
>>344881765
>starved for ammo
Chainsaw a demon, get ammo pooped at you.
>starved for health
Get good, every enemy attack can be dodged.
>they heal back to 50% health if you don't melee them
Shoot them.
>>344868981
But DOOM has Snapmap
>>344882238
Shooting staggered enemies gives you health just like glory kills. If you need ammo use the chainsaw, that's what it's there for.
>>344874935
>bloom and motion blur are just binary on/off
I wish more games had sliders for this stuff.
>>344873303
>/v/ is already defending MW2
>MW2 is be /vr/ in your lifetime
>>344878676
Well, I hope you're done spouting your R E A L bait, now
>>344883615
>next gen PS2, Gamecube and Xbox will be /vr/
I can't wait for the butthurt.
>>344875101
>Today's gonna be a good day, I can feel it!
>>344884518
>you will never have a good day with a hell knight
