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"""""Competetive Shooter"""""
>>344858272
>Complaining about aim for a support character that can't headshot
Full retard
>overbabies will defend this
So within the crosshair? What the fuck is the big deal
>>344858387
>So within the crosshair?
Yes and the bot isn't
>>344858272
I land my heals into your mum's upside down triangle pretty easy too
Isn't that gun suppose to use the same technology as Mercy's medigun?
How is this surprising?
>>344858272
>Try to support team by shooting enemy from backlines
>Can't hit enemy because the shot can't get through getting stuck on allies
Niiiice
>sniper that doesnt need to aim
It's like Blizzard knows that snipers in Overwatch are 95% trash.
I'm glad since this means shitters can pick Ana and not be a total dead slot, or even worse two dead slots since people won't pick another healer if someone picks Ana.
Seems like a shit healer.
>>344858554
So now you're just supporting the team by keeping them alive, that isn't a bad thing. Especially considering most snipers can't aim worth a damn and would spend 10 shots on one enemy.
>>344858731
Yeah i mean what if the ally doesn't actually need a heal but there's an enemy to shoot? But i can't shoot them because my ally will absorb the shot
>the board most shit at video games complains about assists
top kek
>>344858775
I would say I doubt the gun would work like that, but then Mercy's healing beam is based purely on distance and doesn't prefer lower hp teammates over full hp teammates, so I can only hope Blizzard realises how silly their systems can be if two characters have the same issue with targeting.
>>344858925
Allies take the shot instead of phasing through them like every other hero
>>344859115
I know that, I mean in a sensible world the gun would see that your ally is full health and not target them, instead going for the enemy which you intend to hit.
Mercy's staff should work the same way, ignoring full health teammates in order to heal people who actually need it, but it doesn't, so I doubt Ana's weapon will be intelligent.
>>344858272
Enjoy your battleborn M'lady
Overwatch is fucking terrible
Most characters have some very severe problems not only with hitboxes but built-in aim assist as well
for example, mei's icicle (right-click) straight up magnetizes towards enemies. if you aim inbetween a persons legs, the icicle will end up hitting one of their legs instead.
hanzo's hitboxes are even worse, since they can actually hit people around walls. for example, if there is a widowmaker hiding behind a wall, trying to snipe at hanzo and hanzo shoots right past the wall, the hitboxes are so wide that he can still land headshots
>>344858272
Its a FUN shooter and its competetive enough for a casual to feel like hes good at it.
Honestly thats enough for me these days.
>>344861709
You are on /v/.
Everyone has seen these pictures and webms.
Why are trying?
>>344858458
It is with overwatch's stupid hitboxes
>>344861986
I stopped regularly browsing this board a long time ago, I don't know what pictures and webms you are referring to
>>344858272
it's literally only for heals
damage needs the crosshairs on the enemy
The only fantastic element to this game is the presentation.
Whoever designed these maps should be shot. A 10 second walk between each capture point with ults charging so fast you can pop a six man combo and cap the second point easy
>>344862041
>he left but came back
I'm so sorry anon
>>344861709
>the icicle will end up hitting one of their legs instead.
Should the icicle embed itself in thin air? It does that because the hitbox isn't skintight and exists in the thin gap between the legs. Most games do hitboxes like that. But it'd look ridiculous if the shots didn't magnetize themselves to actually impact the model.
>>344862175
yeah I'm thinking I made a mistake
back to /pol/ I go
>>344862250
I've been looking up the video I saw this in, but this isn't just big hitboxes.
The icicle doesn't go straight forward, it moves towards the legs when not aimed at the legs. If you'd shoot there with any other character, the shot would miss
>Blizzard releases casual team-shooter, aimed at a wide audience
>/v/ complains that Overwatch is a casual team-shooter, aimed at a wide audience
Seriously, what were you people expecting? Hardcore eSports?
>>344858348
>defending auto aim in a "shooter"
Contrary to what videogames say, bullets don't fly in a straight path.
>>344862376
>THE NEW COMPETITIVE TEAM SHOOTER RELEASES SOON
>wow guys its just a casual shooter ahahahah why are you so upset ahahaha
>>344862453
>muh coriolis effect
>>344858458
Just because OP drew the triangle smaller than it actually is? That robot overlaps the in-game reticle.
>People still play Overwatch
>>344861709
For all the issues that make Overwatch absolutely fucking dreadful, I wouldn't say that industry-standard hitboxes and some aim-assist are the deal breakers here.
>complaining about the hitboxes on a support character's heal gun
But regardless, who cares if hitboxes are bad? As long as they're consistent for every single player, so that every player has the same rules to play under, a competitive environment can exist.
>>344858272
Competetive is another word for autistic
Competetive gamurs ale ultra autistic.
t.Healer
>>344862724
Let it go, Randy.
>I-IT'S ONLY FOR HEALS
>>344858460
Aaaaayyyy
>>344862170
Why aren't you the world champion?
>>344862807
Competetive just means that a player's skill has a very high impact on the outcome of a match.
Which is why Hearthstone can't be called competetive, since it has too much RNG involved.
>>344862629
The crosshair is the + in the middle, not the triangle.
>>344862875
There are things literally out your hands
Hardly call that competitive
>>344862790
Don't be reasonable or knowledgeable regarding game design on /v/!
I tell you what, haven't tried Overwatch can't talk about it, but I've tried TF2 playing some sniper and spy with Ambassador and it's fucking hard to land hits. I don't know if it's good hitboxes or bad detection.
>>344863148
No there aren't. This is a team based game. Get 5 other super pros that do nothing wrong like yourself (should be simple since the game is sooo easy) and win. Unless... you suck at the game and like making excuses for your shoddy play...
>>344858348
You must be a new kind of autist for defending Auto aim.
>>344858554
>still thinks Ana is a support sniper
Nigga it should be clear by now that she's a sniper support in the sense that she supports the team in a sniper-like way, not that she's a sniper who also supports. Her damage output is pitiful, her stun needs teammates to take advantage of it, she has no other panic buttons, but her hps is the highest in the game, by far. If you want to play a support who shoots people 200hpnyatta is your man.
>>344858504
No one here has actually played the game
they don't know what they're talking about, as per usual
>>344863081
yes but the triangle works as a crosshair when healing allies.
>>344858272
Its a arena shooter, its not a pure shooter. You guys are the biggest autists
>>344858554
She is no widowmaker, you idiot.
>>344863283
>Takes ~10 secs to get to second point
>Defenders have ten second respawn time
>Getting back onto the point while six ults are zoning you out
How is this not out of your hands?
>>344858272
>"""""Competetive Gaming"""""
>>344863830
Avoid them. Holy shit, I thought you were supposed to be good. Attackers have a big advantage on several maps.
>>344858272
The triangle is the crosshair for heals. The + sign in the middle is for damaging enemies. Good to know you have no idea what you're even posting.
>>344863543
Have you even tried her on PTR? You can spam her grenade and shoot teammates for a substantial heal. Her sleep is good for canceling ults and disrupting people. Say goodbye to Roadhog ults. Her heal bomb can heal and disable enemy healing at the same time.
>>344863445
>retardedly huge hitboxes
>auto-aim
I think you should take a internet class of memes and legit expressions before you get to post here again
>>344863956
>Avoid them. Holy shit,
As they're capping the point and win ok
>Attackers have a big advantage on several maps.
Thats my point
I guess the skill ceiling looks higher when you've got downs
>>344864179
Right, my last post was misleading, what I meant to say was this:
>If you want to play a support who shoots people to death, 200hpnyatta is your man.
I'm not saying she's not good, I explicitly said she had the highest healing in the game, and she has a very interesting kit, but her damage is still pitiful and she's not the offensive point damage/support hybrid people were imagining her to be. She's just a weird good support with interesting mechanics.
>>344863830
Avoid their ults and use your ults.
Wipe the enemy team
GG EZ
If the attackers get a team kill they win. If the defenders get a team kill the attackers can try again. That's why you have ~8 minutes.
>>344864643
Because your ult charges so quickly when you're dead right?
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>>344863445
Ayyy rollercoaster tycoon emotes
>>344864784
>dying all the time
well stop that
Are you one of those fuckers that just runs in as soon as you respawn with no attempt to group up with your team and work together?
>>344861709
you're retarded. it's large hurtboxes. designing projectiles that """magnetize""" towards players to assist with aim would involve significantly more unnecessary calculations and latency issues than the straight lines and drop that they actually use
It's current year OP aiming is for man children who have way to much time on their hands. I'm so glad Blizzard is assisting me in beating these kids who don't have to worry about work and can just sit at home all day practicing their aiming.
>>344862391
It's a larger hit area, not auto-aim.
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>>344861709
> magnetizes towards enemies
Confirmed for being a retarded.
All that's magnetized is the visual, because it would look retarded to have the icicle impale on mid air.
The hitboxes are done not just to make it easier but also for balance. Some heroes are way smaller than others. It would be broken if they had hitboxes that matched their visuals.
Fuck if you think tracer's broken now imagine her with a hitbox matching her visual.
She would be fucking unkillable.
>>344864853
What does that mean?
Ana sucks. Neither a good sniper nor a good healer.
>>344865816
>denies heal
>denies ults
>okish dmg and heal
It's pretty good. Just like zenyatta.
So Ana seems to be made to be a secondary healer.
Is Lucio + Ana more likely than Mercy+ Ana?
Also considering her ult seems to be better for offence it might make Lucio + Mercy the default setup for defense and Lucio + Ana for offence.
>>344865709
Nothing. It's a meme.
>>344865606
>tumblr nose
Delete this
No one said its a competitive shooter, like, ever.
Its a casual shooter with forced competitive elements.
>>344858272
>sniper
>has a radius like a rocket luncher
Okay
>>344858272
Overwatch hitboxes are giant. Anyone who plays competitive is a joke
>>344866052
>forced forced meme
>>344862391
Doesn't the Medic have auto-aim too, in TF2?
>>344866283
No,where the fuck did you get that from?
>>344862867
If they made it actually work like the xbow, it would take way too much skill and they had to buff it for this game. The mechanic of a classic railgun would overwhelm overwatch casuals
>>344866273
Stay mad, your MMR isn't going to win you any tourneys or money.
Learn what a real competitive scene looks like.
>>344862790
>As long as they're consistent for every single player
Nope. Nope so much.
I don't want to think I'm covered by a wall, to have an enemy simply shoot me because shitty hitboxes. Doesn't matter if others have the same disadvantage.
That's simply not cool
>>344866402
I'm pretty sure it's just bait regarding his primary gun
>>344865709
You know how people kept complaining that CS:GO has bad hit detection?
It means thats 300% worse in Overwatch.
But people won't complain, because WAIFU THICKQQQ BLIZZARD A BEST and so on.
>>344858272
Go back to praising your twenty year old games, anon
>I will never be in a Pharah-Captain Amari sandwich
>>344866470
>competitive
>professional
How about you learn english you salty motherfucker
Just call it a competitive team game, orMOBAor whatever. People are getting pretty hung-up on the "shooter" part of it. Whether the games esports scene will be successfull I dunno, but saying the game is not competitive because the aim isn't as demanding as older shooters is a bit silly.
consoles
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>>344866509
>>344866402
It's not bait and I am talking about his primary gun. It has autoaim an lock on target. Since when does people complain about support having a widdest range?
>>344866493
You can think you're covered by a wall and get shot in any shooter. Your body has width with all of them.
It's not like you see your positioning in third person and you have to adjust to the hitboxes by feel, just like you do in every other game.
Right now all the hitboxes do is give noobs an excuse to whine when they weren't proper;y behind cover.
>>344858348
>Only sniper can headshot, other classes headshot are not allowed
Wow, are you new , autist and full retard
>>344866529
>its new, thus its good
Bad meme.
>>344866592
Blizzard's last blogbuster competitive esports title sure was a success next to the other games
Fine by me.
Even with this crutch she'll still have lower healing than Lucio, Zenyatta, or Mercy since she's the only one that can actually whiff a heal and requires landing multiple, individual projectiles to heal targets with larger health pools.
>>344866592
But it is a competitive shooter. just because people get triggered doesn't change the meaning of a word.
>>344866520
Except Overwatch has a favor the shooter system so they don't have to put up with that hit detection bullshit.
>>344866723
Her gun literally can't headshot you idiot
>>344866730
Feels good to enjoy vidya games while you contrarian shits try to deface it
>>344865989
>nose
>not getting red in the cold
>>344862391
>>344863445
Auto-aim is only on the heal. Not the damage. Also, it can't headshot.
>>344866757
>lower healing than Zenyatta
Literally impossible
Fuckers are always too busy spamming their damage orbs to even try healing anyone not direct within line of sight,
Man fuck Ana let's talk about my boy Deathyatta
200 health and popping nigga at any time holy shit instant discord orbs are the bomb
>>344866774
So you have 3 people complaining that they got killed in a bullshit way in Overwatch for every 1 person complaining that they should've killed that other guy in CSGO.
Still bad.
>>344866935
It's not even auto aim, it's increased hitbox size.
>>344866904
Feels good not being a fanatic drone and recognizing quality, or lack thereof, in my games.
WE NEED TO FIGHT AGAINST THEM!
THEY ARE BEATING VALVE, OUR COMPANY, THE ONE WE'RE SUPPORTING!
HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING? OVERWATCH IS TRASH!
HAVEN'T THEY SEEN THE TF2 MEMES? THEY ARE FUNNY! HEAVY IS BIG! HAHA!
Good
I had enough of aiming darts at spastic tossers jumping around in KF when all I wanted to do was FUCKING HEAL YOU STAND STILL IF YOU WANT TO BE HEALED YOU MOTHER FUCKING CUNT
>>344866990
The only thing people bitch about is hooks and that's because they don't know how they work.
Specifically that once the hook animation starts playing the hook ha already landed and people can move a bit after getting hooked.
Also the ridiculous hitbox size of it.
Nothing to do with 20 tick.
>>344861709
yeah man fucking hanzo's hitboxes are so bad there's never been any multiplayer team class based shooter with hitboxes as bad as that
>>344867104
>pc players aint playing overwatch
>>344867163
>that fov
>>344867070
>If the game isn't absolutely perfect I'll shit on every single little flaw to the point where I'm nitpicking to make it look bad
>>344867136
>people don't complain about a flaw, so the flaw doesn't exist
The reason nobody complains about the low tick rate is because people playing the game are kids and casuals.
>>344866949
Zenyatta heals more than most people realize, he's a mercy that's not bound by an umbilical cord.
Not to mention his ult which heals 200hp/sec and is currently sitting at 300hp/sec in the PTR.
>>344867070
You've said the same thing over and over since The Old Republic came out
Sorry it hurt your feelings brother but other games have come out since
>>344867163
>TF2
>competitive
You wish, Valve employee.
>Ana gets anounced
>/v/ complains that shitters will always miss their heals
>heal darts turn out to be easy to hit
>shitpost about hitboxes instead
Why do valve fans hate this game so much?
do people get paid to shill here? or is it just people trying to defend their purchase and time investment? It seems like all valid criticism is met with extra retarded backlash
>>344867305
>competitive
Nice strawman you fucking faggot, I bet you hang your toilet paper the wrong way
>>344858272
Don't fool yourself and think this matters. If you played the PTR you probably noticed more than half the time the fucking retards playing Ana couldn't aim for shit regardless.
Besides, she's only good for the Lloyd's talisman anyway. Even Zen is better than her.
>>344867236
No because it's an online shooter and is expected to have some ping.
And 20 tick adds on average ~25 ms of ping.
Which is fucking nothing when compared to the average human reaction time of ~250 ms.
And it's literally just an excuse by bads for why they die.
>>344867373
You're talking about a group that vociferously defends Episode 3/HL3 going from an active project to vaporware to confirmed non-existent because it was "a good business decision".
Valvedrones are second only to Nintendrones.
>>344867373
TF2's competitive mode was supposed to be the savior of TF2 that would rejuvenate the playerbase.
Overwatch pretty much squashed the dream.
No one outside of the existing TF2 playerbase gives a damn.
>>344867261
He has to be actually paying attention to his team and be in line of sight to heal them. Which means actually looking around constantly which they never do since they spam M1 instead.
Not to mention it's a paltry 30HP/s
>>344867163
Wow that's ridiculous
To be fair though Hanzos hitboxes are a lot wider
>>344867397
This is an Overwatch and Pokemon GO board.
Get out. You are outnumbered, take your defeat like a man or bend the fuck over.
>>344867539
I installed it again to check it out, only to come to the conclusion that i'm still totally burned out on tf2.
They can only milk a game for so long, even if it's really good.
>>344866912
>Wearing this outfit in the cold
>Popsicle melting in the cold
>>344867539
I thought the dream squashed itself with the terrible release that had to have most of it rolled back.
>>344867397
>come to video game board to talk about video games
>find a thread about video game I like
>it's full of autists telling me I shouldn't like it and to stop playing
Don't you have better shit to do?
Like killing yourself?
How long have you been putting that off?
>>344867619
t. I never played the game
THE INFORMATION IN THE OP IMAGE IS FALSE
>>344859230
> the game should play for me
>>344867557
>He has to be actually paying attention to his team and be in line of sight to heal them. Which means actually looking around constantly which they never do since they spam M1 instead.
Thats literally Ana. Except Ana has to aim a non-hitscan projectile.
>Not to mention it's a paltry 30HP/s
Its a passive "leave it and forget" constant heal.
Ana's per-hit heals are pretty small bursts and, again, she has to aim.
>>344867849
I thought the ally has to be damaged in order for it to be a healing shot? That bot has full health.
How much damage does the offensive option do? What's her TTK compared to Widow?
>>344865816
>>344865915
She has 75hps, and a 100 hp instaheal aoe which boosts others healing.
Her damage is shit but her healing is the best in the game if you hit shots.
>tfw your wife got buffed
amazing mang
>>344867470
>every single shooter in history has been critiqued for this
>but Overwatch is an exception, because it has cute girls in it
>oh and humans can't see past 5 meters, 15 fps and need half a second to react to anything
Getting to Playstation developer tier revisionism to reinforce your rationalizations.
>more stuns
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>>344867904
>non-hitscan
Not when scoped.
>ts a passive "leave it and forget" constant heal.
Until you need to switch targets, which should be all the time.
Meanwhile the rest of her kit is so much more useful.
>>344866470
Except it has tourneys and money. The only thing that determines whether a game can maintain a tourney scene is whether people are willing to watch it.
>>344867786
Play the game you rapeslut
>>344858458
The robot arm is touching the triangle you blind fuck
>>344867830
wow someone wasted 40 bucks on a shit tf2 clone
lol
>>344868026
>every single shooter in history has been critiqued for this
>by idiots who don't know what they are talking about
Go back to CSGO, nobody is forcing you to play this.
If you think the hitboxes and tick rate are valid criticisms then stop playing.
People who think they are fine aren't wrong simply because you are autistic about shit which you don't understand.
>>344868023
>buffed
What?
She is annoying enough.
>mfw a supercharged genji/rein can 6v1 an entire team
>>344867930
doesn't matter if they are full health you can still see the heal aura if you hit someone.
>>344867397
>people are talking about a game I don't like
>better call them a shill!
Fucking hang yourself you fag
>>344868094
it's not even good dude. Long ass cooldown too. Only thing it can do is stop ults and get a bastion out of sentry mode for a sec. Roadhog and McCree are better at that too.
>>344868256
>If you think the hitboxes and tick rate are valid criticisms OF AN ONLINE FIRST PERSON SHOOTER then stop playing.
>>344868482
this is a bait thread and you wasted 40 dollars
Can't wait for you to waste more money later on when they start pumping out OP classes
>>344858272
Do we have any word on when she is joining the roster? She looks near complete.
Is there any game that has guns that are unique and don't use autoaim or RNG to determine if the damn thing hit?
I mean straight up something like a where the gun was pointed is directly where the bullet hole is every time
Not "shooting at the exact same spot, but have each shot land slight inches from each other
>>344868548
>i don't like it when rules of games change
Why are you even here?
Don't you have games to play?
Or right, you don't.
>>344868794
yea old arena shooters were pretty good with that
Overwatch is for the type of cunt that wants to be seen as the cool competitive E-Sports god, despite being utter shite at every game they have ever touched. Same applies to LoL, CSGO etc
>>344868617
Shes in the PTR now
>>344868817
I'm at the office, pretending to work. I'll play some actually good games in 2 hours when I'm home.
Meanwhile I get to shot all over kiddies who think its okay for an FPS to aim for you.
>>344868910
>Meanwhile I get to shot all over kiddies who think its okay for an FPS to aim for you.
The garbled nonsense you are spouting kinda makes me thing you are actually unemployed and sitting in your moms basement with no money for games
>at blizz HQ
>Hey guys how are we going to fight wallers when Overwatch finally goes live?
>How about we just make walling a part of a class?
>That way they wouldn't have any idea if the enemy was walling because it could easily be explained with in-game mechanics!
>Genius!
>>344868579
>wasted 40 dollars
I'm having fun though. More than I can say for your sorry ass, spending your day shitposting in threads about games you don't like. You must really be a miserable piece of shit.
>>344869097
Your argument about tick rate and hitboxes not mattering in a competitive online FPS makes me think that you are a moron, and I am not bothered by morons being wrong about my financial situation.
>>344869129
you really aren't though senpai. you're the one raging in a bait thread
I'm the one finding great amusement in your lashing out
>>344869278
Raging? I just told you to hang yourself. That's not rage, that's a sincere request.
>>344869216
You are bothered about people playing video games though.
Which makes you bitter and resentful.
>>344858272
Fighting games like gaylee and street Farter do the exact same shit and no one bats an eye.
>>344869493
>if you correct my stupid statements you must be mad
Nice rhetoric.
>>344869476
lol sure buddy
see ya in overwatch when it goes f2p in a year
>>344869580
Imma school ur ass, bub ;))
>>344869572
>force my unfounded opinion on
>correct
Those things are not synonyms anon.
Large hitboxes do not make a shooter bad. There is more to playing a shooter than having precise aim.
20 tick is literally a meme. It does not matter
>>344869948
>tick rate and hitboxes are important in a competitive online FPS
>unfounded opinion
You are the cancer killing video games.
>>344862391
>>344863445
>>344866723
Clinically retarded.
>>344861709
They made the hitboxes bigger so that a variety of people can have fun with the game, not just super serious comp players
>>344869580
I don't think you really understand how blizzard handles their games and that overwatch is not an mmo with a subscription model
>>344869948
>Large hitboxes do not make a shooter bad. There is more to playing a shooter than having precise aim.
>20 tick is literally a meme. It does not matter
are you serious?
>there is more to playing a shooter than having precise aim
literally all shooters are about, the player with the better aim wins.
>>344870274
>>344870558
>it matters
>not it doesn't
Great argument guys.
Lets do it again next week.
>>344866730
>it's new, thus it's bad
Get out nostalgiafag
>>344870435
I don't think you really understand how the class system is set up exactly like LoL heroes and it would be very easy for them to transition to f2p
>>344870558
>my idea of shooters hasn't changed since the 90s
>everyone else is wrong and I am right
>>344858272
But the other side can do the same?
>>344870636
I sure love my moba shooter
>>344870639
Except nobody here holds this opinion. The thread is full of people explaining exactly why its bad, from poor hero balance leading to low amount of heroes played, to a bad case of auto-aim and bad rate of information exchange with server making player skill less relevant.
>>344870820
I'm not seeing the argument still.
Perhaps if you try a little harder?
>>344870636
Its common sense that it matters. He is making a wild, outrageous claim, and doesn't support it.
>>344871001
Huge hitboxes allow people to shoot each other through walls. It rewards incompetent players and makes skill less relevant. This is bad in a competitive player versus player game.
>>344870831
>poor hero balance leading to low amount of heroes played
Everyone except Zenyattay gets played a good amount.
>to a bad case of auto-aim and bad rate of information exchange with server making player skill less relevant
tick rate is fine, auto aim does not exist
>>344870636
I've explained my reasoning. that's why theyre called "shooters", whoever the better shooter is wins
>>344870739
>>my idea of shooters hasn't changed since the 90s
it's the current year!
>>everyone else is wrong and I am right
not an argument.
>>344871014
Who is making the wild claim again?
>>344871106
When your hitboxes grow past a certain size, this becomes auto-aim.
The player is aiming away from the enemy model, but the shot connects.
>>344871094
It does not allow to shoot through walls, hit boxes just extend further than you are used to.
It rewards people who realize this and capitalize on hiding behind walls properly as well as punishing those who do not.
The hitboxes are not based on the view models for balance reasons as the smaller models would become too OP.
This is good for a competitive player versus player game.
>>344871204
The fact that you have to ask means you are.
>>344871179
You don't have an argument.
Just because it's an FPS does not mean it has to focus on precise aim.
There is so much more that can be done with it and overwatch does those things.
If you don't like those things fine, you are free to not play it.
>>344871351
>shooting next to the enemy and having the shot connect is good for competitive fps
>TFW no ISIS skin for Ana
>>344871264
Realizing the disconnect between player model and hit box is just part of the skill.
>>344871476
You didn't shoot next to the enemy. You shoot at the enemy.
>one or more people compete against one or more other people to win
>but it isn't competitive
What.
>>344871535
I'll save my sanity and assume that you've long since realized you are wrong and only continue to pretend to be retarded because you don't want to admit it.
>>344858272
The blue triangle or the smaller red triangle?
>>344871768
The white one around the outside.
>>344870831
For someone in NZ, I find the netcode pretty good, comparatively
Most heroes are balanced
>>344863081
This is what happens when ppl talk about stuff they don't know anything about. Pure retardation.
>>344871682
It's a good thing you are abandoning your nonsensical argument before you embarrass yourself any further.
So realisticaly, how low she'll be in competitive chart? I doubt people will abandon their aoe heals and heal beams for this.
So Zenyatta needed a buff but instead Blizz added a new healer that is just better than him? What the fuck.
>>344867163
>there is a SINGLE weapon out of dozens in another game that is broken and it has received major complaints from the community since all eternity
>this totally justifies the casual pandering with massive hitboxes in Overwatch
blizzdrones are amazing
>>344871478
Why would you want a burka/nikab?
>>344871478
i thought she was egyptian
>>344858272
>people have been complaining since the start about the bad hitboxes
>surprised when the new sniper supplements the oversized hitboxes
I'm not sure what people expected at this point
>>344870697
But they won't, because it's blizzard. They charge a price in addition to the ingame shop. F2p is a downgrade for mmos only if they can not make it
>>344864494
>I think you should take a internet class of memes and legit expressions before you get to post here again
what is even this insult
>>344867849
>/v/ is actively making shit up in a pathetic attempt to discredit Overwatch
Hilarious desu. Remember when they said we would have to pay for new heroes?
>>344868023
Is D.va your waifu?
>>344858272
LMAO ppl still salty about OW
game sold like a bazillion copies in one week you niggers you wont stop hearing about Overwatch for the next 5 years
be adults, accept it and play the game you like instead of blatantly shitposting
>>344866592
>saying the game is not competitive because the aim isn't as demanding as older shooters is a bit silly
It's a shooter where the shooting is shit, that's kinda like if you make a driving game but the driving is ass
>>344872589
but tf2 is better than this stupid poo poo game...
why is no one talking about comp mode...
genji or feed
>>344868887
I guess the actual hardcore E-Sport games are the ones you play, right?
>>344872686
Tf2 is a casualized tf classic. If valve ever makes a game again tf3 will be far worse
>>344867397
>It seems like all valid criticism is met with extra retarded backlash
How is it valid?
Jesus, no wonder I can hit allies so easily but can't hit enemies.
This is actually pretty counter intuitive, bad decision.
>>344872950
It isn't true. You just suck. Read the thread.
>>344858272
Seriously basic motor functions are a thing of the past. An idea that was made in 1996. It's time to be a thinking man's game.
So what are your toughts on the new patch? Im really excited to play the new d.va
>>344872950
OP's post isn't true ya dumb dumb
Let's talk some real shit. Why is Symmetra support and not do? Her shields are weaker than Torbjorn's
>>344873451
What did they change about her? She's my main tank
>>344867163
All this webm implies is that the entire game of Overwatch plays like Huntsman sniper
>>344873520
Torbjorn is armor
Symmetra is shields
shields give you extra hp and regenerates when you aren't taking damage.
armor just gives you extra hp reduces damage and doesn't come back once it's depleted.
learn the game bruh
>>344873520
Because the shields regen and her ult doesn't kill people. Literally the only reason.
>>344872686
I've played both
both are fun, but OW is better for me. And believe me, im not a cazul
>>344873520
Symmetra is absolutely a Defense character that they pushed over to Support when they realized they didn't have enough. Zenyatta too, to a lesser degree.
PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY, UNIRONICALLY DEFENDING SHIT LIKE THIS IN A """""COMPETITIVE""""" ONLINE FPS. I'll let you think about it for a bit.
Just went on test server. The blue triangle thing is a myth.
However, the hitboxes for Ana's healing darts are significantly bigger than the standard hitboxes. So at some distances the Blue Triangle will serve as a good indicator, but at longer distances this isn't the case.
It's definitely 'casualized' to make sure just about anyone can land the healing darts.The hitboxes are the same scoped or out of scope
>>344868175
Not knowing the difference between a triangle and a crosshair
>>344873627
>Defense Matrix
>Cooldown decreased from 10 seconds to 1 second
>A new resource meter has been added. This meter will deplete while Defense Matrix is active and then recharge when it’s not in use.
>Defense Matrix takes 10 seconds to reach full charge from empty
>At a full charge, Defense Matrix will last for 4 seconds
>Defense Matrix will now remain active as long as its assigned hotkey is held
>Defense Matrix has been reclassified as an alternate fire and is now bound to RMB (by default)
>An option to “Toggle Defense Matrix” has been added under Options > Controls > D.Va
>Self-Destruct
>Ultimate cost decreased by 15%
>Explosion delay reduced from 4 seconds to 3 seconds
>Explosion no longer damages D.Va (the player who activates it)/
She's in a really good spot right now,thanks blizzard
>>344875005
Holy shit that's a really cool Defense Matrix change, that works a lot better and will make tanking a ton easier. Not getting blown up by my own bomb will also be a godsend
Thanks anon
>They already had a sniper support (zenyatta)
>They add another one
>>344866730
I think he was implying
>it's old, thus good
not the other way around.
>>344867397
>People don't agree with my criticism
>SHILL SHILL SHILL
Don't be a baby.
>>344870831
>from poor hero balance leading to low amount of heroes played
Nah, what happens on /v/ is this:
>I got killed by this character, NERF IT!
>I suck at this character, BUFF IT!
>I can't understand how to use an ult intelligently, CHANGE IT!
>I can't figure out how to avoid ults, REMOVE IT!
>I jerk off to this character all day, BUFF IT!
>I hate this character, REMOVE IT!
>>344858272
It's fine anon, Ana is complete garbage barring her ult.
The only people who will pick her are idiots, people wanting to try something new, and the occasional Widowmaker main who doesn't want to be a 2nd Widow that goes Ana to appease the rest of the team then doing no damage and no healing.
She is objectively the worst healing Support and potentially the worst Support in the entire lineup.
Basically Ana is old Zenyatta while new Zenyatta is fantastic.
Anyone else notice that it's only Blizzard that has people screaming and farting about everyone who doesn't despise them being shills? If it does happen to any other companies it's maybe 1/100th of what happens in Blizzard threads.
>>344863721
The triangle is a design. If it was a healing viable shooting area, a circle would make more sense, as it would be the same distance from the center all around. A triangle doesn't make much sense for signifying an area around the cross hair.
>>344873520
The teleporter almost acts as a revive.
>>344872283
I remember when people were spreading the rumor that skins actually had hidden stat effectors
>>344876995
>Can block healing and do dot
>Worst support
Yeah nah. Her + a main healer like Mercy or Lucio are going to be obligatory in competitive comp. The ability to shut down all healing is huge.
>lose makes you rank down 100%
>need multiple wins to rank up
garbage
>>344866756
I saw a "tournament" of it, was hardly less boring than League of legends.
>>344872640
There is more to shooting than aiming you numbnuts
>>344877958
Her and lucio sound great together.
He keeps people topped off, she's there for spot healing if need be.
And then all the other utility she provides.
>>344865989
>triggered by tumblr
poetry
>>344877958
>When you're watching Seagull try to play Ana and he gets carried by teammates
>Fully acknowledges he gets carried
>No medal damage, Bronze elims, Silver healing
She's not good in anyone's hands.
>>344867028
>it's not training wheels for my utter lack of aim, it's just that it can shoot anything on the screen
>>344882114
>Anonymous
If all the visual models were bigger and accounted for this would it curb your autism?
