>modders make a better game than anything Bethesda ever could
Why is this allowed?
because bethesda is shit?
Do you think they would do as well if they were working completely from scratch or would they create some half finished and broken indie shit?
>>344857864
funny considering skyrim is oblivion with snow and fallout 4 fallout 3.5
>>344857864
If they could make something from scratch, they probably would have.
Game is alright though. Haven't run into anything broken yet and am pretty entertained by everything so far.
What's so better about it? Story and combat? Decided to start from the very beginning, Arktwend, and work my way up to Enderal. Gonna be some comfy weeks or months.
is this available in english yet
>>344859229
Nope. End of the month or something.
Are some people this autistic to play user created story/quest mods? If you want good quests just play some other good game. This unofficial garbage story mods are full of cringe voice acting/sory and boring quests.
how many quests involve scat?
>>344859526
story*
>>344859567
all
>>344859567
Every. Provided you've got the right mods.
>>344859567
>>344859652
>>344859665
explain this meme
>>344859701
Germans
>>344859526
But its not only an other story/quest but an other world and somewhat game system.
>>344859526
>why do people play game
>if you want game play other game
>not that game
I don't even understand what you're saying and I think neither do you.
There's nothing wrong with the voice acting, story or quests in this.
>>344859701
its some epic German porn meme despite Pornhub stats showing that Germans don't even watch it.
>base game released in late 2011
>mod released in 2016
Wow, they made a better game using the vanilla assets as their base in almost 5 years.
>>344857764
>except they didn't
>>344858849
it wasn't made by bethesda. literally the reason.
>>344860835
On their spare time. For free.
>>344858849
made by tasteless yuropoor so it is automatically better than american masterrace in their mind.
I was thinking about trying that, but then I saw:
>Its from the guys who made Nehrim, who love Gothic series way too much
>Nehrim had limited access to magic, annoying german dub and other issues
>"Survival elements"
>"Experience points/skill books"
>"deep, hardcore combat system"
This turns me off, seriously. Especially that "experience points". For fuck sake, "learn by doing" is one of the biggest pros of TES series, why getting rid of that? Because "hurr durr, muh Gothic"?
>>344861882
I prefer experience points desu.
Elder scrolls 'learn by doing' forces you to grind repetetive tasks, and if you maxed out a skill you have to prevent yourself from using it or you miss out on a chance to level something else instead. This is especially bad for shit like illusion or restoration, or using shouts in skyrim since that doesn't help you level anything at all.
>>344860731
Pornhub has scat?
>>344862125
>if you maxed out a skill you have to prevent yourself from using it or you miss out on a chance to level something else instead
This is the part that flares up my autism. Glad it's not just me.
Thank god for those uncapping mods, at least.
>>344862125
It's one of those things that sounds cool and immersive in theory (wow, you get better at skills just by using them! Just like irl!!) but if poorly implemented is just annoying in a video game.
>>344862305
Exactly, pornhub stats are meaningless. Real Germans watch only homemade scat videos, offline.
Friendly reminder guys : modders don't deserve to be paid.
Friendly reminder to harass and threaten any modder who wants to make a living modding. Friendly reminder to tell him to get a real job.
>>344861882
>"Survival elements"
it's cool, not frostfall/rnd autism. it just mean you need to stock up on food and drinks to regenerate mana and stamina outside combat.
>"deep, hardcore combat system"
not true. the only addition is enemy dont have aimbot and cant move durind melee anymore. magic enemies still act like in skyrim.
>"Experience points/skill books"
superior rpg system. if you want tes levelling, go play an early access mmo survival grind
>>344857864
>b-but they didn't make the engine
They made better use of its assets
>>344862646
I agree, modders that want money for it should just make their own games.
Looks cool but english when?
I dropped Nehrim because it ran at like 10 fps for no fucking reason.
>>344863230
yeah, me too. apparently enderal runs better though.
>>344863230
I have a fucking 1080 and 6700k and i was getting sub 30 fps
>>344861882
>you can love Gothic too much
why do would you dislike good taste this much?
>>344862823
>They made better use of its assets
lol no
they keep the godawful vanilla lighting with some added bloom. It isnt compatible with enb but works well with any lighting overhaul. Wonder why they dont just ask to use any of them.
They cranked grass up to eleven and shit their ebin oc bushes and flora EVERYWHERE, destroying performance, make it fuck hard to pickup items and resource in the open world. whiterun plateu with a lighting overhaul and increased saturation is beautiful without being annoying, here it can be beautiful once you get rid of the old lighting, but annoying as fuck to play and move around.
and the fucking art style need an overhaul. Cant just use vanilla skyrim architecture with witcher asset, these shit dont mesh.
>>344860731
Berghain has some a very famous fetish club though.. with scat days and literally urine showers coming from the Berghain club.
Nehrim was trash, this probably too
>>344863407
I played first three Gothic games and I consider them inferior to Morrowind. In basically all aspects, even combat (Gothic 2 still had just mashing lmb, Gothic 3 had so awful combat system that it hurts - combined with enemies that refused to gangbang you, so liberating cities was reduced to simply mashing lmb until orc would drop dead).
>>344862761
>superior rpg system. if you want tes levelling, go play an early access mmo survival grind
Boring leveling system.
In Morrowind, I could feel that Im training my character, that Im getting better and better, slowly.
With exp system, I can spend years picking up locks and wont get better, unless I will put those points into that skill at level up. Unnatural as hell.
Mentioned Gothic series at least fixed that problem with trainers, which was more logical, but the best would still be "learn by doing", combined with certain caps, lifted only after taking training for knowledge that you cant get on your own.
Can't wait for English release, if it's anything like Nehrim it's going to be fucking amazing.
>>344863814
well yeah, Gothic 3 is absolute trash compared to Gothic 1 and 2
also
>just mashing lmb in Gothic 2
kek
>>344859526
but anon it has professional voice actors than are better than the ones bethesda uses
>>344860835
how is this a criticism?
>>344859701
Scat fetishists are predominantly German, there's that one video with a guy in diving equipment literally diving in a septic tank filled to the bring with liquid shit. It seems like he's having a blast too
>>344863982
Yup, thats how almost every fight ended for me.
Is the English version out yet
>Why is this allowed?
What the shit kind of question is that? Allowed by what? You mean, by the devs? By international law? By the foundations of fucking reality?
Who would stop modders from modding?
>>344864094
>literally lying on the internet
why?
>>344862646
Are you saying that sarcastically? Because most people believe that.
>>344864032
>but anon it has professional voice actors than are better than the ones bethesda uses
Like in Nehrim?
>JA JA, SAUERKRAUT, VIENNA SCHNITZEL UND GEMUSE BITTE. DANKE!
>>344864267
>JA JA, SAUERKRAUT, VIENNA SCHNITZEL UND GEMUSE BITTE. DANKE!
better than everybody in skyrim being voiced by the dad from dexters lab
>>344863814
>boring
yet it works in favor of limited, meaningful world interaction and roleplaying without gimping you in the long run. if you allocate point wrong, you have to blame yourselves or you can use any respec mechanic. If the game decide not to spawn any worthy adversary in the low level part of the world, good luck level up combat enough to withstand the harder part.
>>344864231
Im not lying, mate.
>>344858849
Artkwend is kind of shit from what I've heard, didn't play it personally. Nehrim suffers from Oblivion, but they somehow made it a much better game and it feels like Gothic with fun dungeons.
If you find a defunct railway in a forest and follow it, you'll eventually get to some kind of mine. There's sense in the world, it's not just random shit throw everywhere with filled with crappy caves that have 2 health potions inside and a iron longsword.
>>344864334
you are tho
because all humanoid enemies start to permablock all your melee-attacks if you just mash-lmb until you let your guard down long enough for them to counterattack you
>>344864324
only half the guys were voiced by the dad from dexters lab, the other half were voiced by garret from thief
>>344864476
Yet it worked in the end. Who can tell?
>>344864592
your lying didn't work tho, because I called you out
>>344864669
And I remember what I saw, so it is your try that failed.
>>344864267
>being this buttblasted he can't understand german
>>344857764
Can anyone who's played this comment on its stability? Is it relatively stable or crashtacular?
Enderal won't work on Skyrim's remastered version.
>>344864267
murrica
Always remember you can't polish a turd. No matter how many mods you download, Skyrim will remain garbage.
Turd attracts the most flies.
>>344868905
Then you must be covered in them.
>>344862761
>you need to stock up on food and drinks to regenerate mana and stamina outside combat
Do they not regenerate on their own?
>enemy dont have aimbot and cant move durind melee anymore
What do you mean by "can't move during melee"?
>>344864154
gb2 tumblr
>>344861882
>"Survival elements"
Sounds discouraging. First that whole "magic is radiation" thing, and now this? I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm for Enderal.
>>344863982
>playing Gothic 1/2 with a mouse
>>344871381
that was meant for >>344863814
>a bunch of autists craft a new world with new quests and a complete new storyline
>they get a lot of professional german voice actors to speak every dialogue
>gameplay lasts from 30 to 100 hours depending on playstyle
>its completely free
>some retards on /v/ treat it like the second coming hitler
never change you lovely autists <3
>>344871913
Is that you? If yes, you look mighty fine.
>>344871913
Nice nuts. Haha, get it?doughnuts.
>>344857764
looks like absolute turd, should have just dropped everything and switched to unreal engine
How about you post some screenshots of it to sell me on it.
>>344870761
I am playing it right now. It's extremely good in my opinion. All the quests I've completed so far were unique and I'm actually invested in the main story for the first time in a TES game in a while. And it isn't even a TES game.
>>344872259
one of the cities in the game
>>344870094
forgot for a moment, mana do. health doesnt. there is a bar similar to witcher toxicity that prevent you from potion and restoration spam.
>>344872165
and pay chinks royalty? fuck no.
>main city in Enderal is larger than any city in Skyrim
>one district of Ark has more enterable buildings and NPCs than any area in Skyrim
entrance area to the "criminal" district of Ark
>>344873106
I wonder if Todd feels embarassed that a bunch of kraut modders made a better game than him
>>344873305
those reused assets like those fucking lamps make me cringe. I fucking hate when a rope just goes inside a prop without a knot or anything.
>>344873332
I am honestly super fucking impressed with this game. And not just from the "this was done by modders?" angle, this is literally the best TES game since Morrowind
>>344873305
where the fuck do they get electricity in this medieval fantasy?
how does this work with other mods? would you need a clean install?
they actually have a whorehouse down here and a fight-club.
>uses vanilla skyrim animations
HURGH!
>>344872991
>there is a bar similar to witcher toxicity that prevent you from potion and restoration spam.
They could have solved that problem by making potions heal-over-time instead of instant. Unless they did that too, which will make it even more annoying.
>>344873685
no, Enderal has its own launcher with mod-loader. It automatically pulls all mods into the loader that you have installed for Skyrim but has its seperate checklist which means that you can enable the same mods you have for Skyrim also for Enderal if they are compatible. For example, UI mods in general are compatible since they don't really modify objects in the world. I have Immersive HuD enabled for Enderal and it works without issues.
>>344871381
this guy gets it
keyboard only masterrace
>>344873845
yes, potion is non stackable heal over time.
unlike witcher, you can get unlimited white honey.
>>344870094
enemies stand still until they finish their attack animation, unless they use the charge power attack.
>>344873845
it really isn't annoying if you stocked up on Ambrosia you filthy poorfag. It removes the fever attached to the arcane sickness.
>>344873305
Did they seriously use the wooden buckets as lamps? the fuck?
>>344857764
Because Bethesda doesn't take Valve's lead and hire them to make their own series and create a new IP.
Which is probably for the best because that way we get this shit for free and without corporate meddling.
>>344874197
SUPERIOR
GERMAN
ENGINEERING
>>344874197
it's the poorfag district of the city. There is a lore reason for why they use buckets and other shit to build their lamps. The nobility district of the city uses proper lamps.
>>344857764
>non-canon fangames
No thanks. If you're not playing Elder Scrolls for the lore there is no reason not to play a better game like the Witcher or Gothic.
>more attention to detail put into some fucking backyard shed than Bethesda put into their unique main city buildings
>>344874343
Enderal has better lore than current iterations of TES. And I'm not even memeing here. I'm actually interested in the story and the lore of the world for once.
>>344862646
>>344864243
yes, and most people are retarded.
for several reasons too. not only is it idiotically immoral to demand people to work for free (with the leading argument being 'that's how it's always been done').
it's also idiotic because it shows that people who believe this don't understand the most basic level of economics. it should be trivially recognizable that getting money to mod developers will quickly allow them to make either more or higher quality mods. there are downsides to this as well of course (for example, in the beginning it will be flooded with useless cash grab mods) but this stuff sorts itself out automatically - I shouldn't have to explain why, again this is really basic economics.
just saying this as someone who doesn't care either way desu. mods for most games are as a matter of fact relatively lazy modifications to games with little art and craft to them. if plebs would rather have that shit for free than higher quality stuff for money then fine.
>>344857764
Do I gotta play Nehrim to understand what's happening before playing this one?
Don't really feel like installing Oblivion again just to play a mod(unless you fags are right and it's actually really good)
>>344874603
>before installing
it takes all your shit in the data folder and pushes it somewhere else
>>344874629
People understand basic economics. Their point is that the modding scene existed for years, going strongly, with no incentive beyond recognition. Infusing money into it incentivizes outside sources to come in and attempt to profit off of it and all the sleaze that comes with that. Keeping money out is the ultimate quality control for mods
>>344874629
Nobody is demanding anybody work for free. Many modders recieve donations for their work. If they feel doing it for free isn't worth their time, they can stop. Obviously that hasn't happened.
Todd go home.
I'm cautiously excited, when you think about it, Fallout New Vegas was just a gigantic mod.
Does it take place in TES universe? I hope not.
>>344874603
most of the textures in Enderal are changed, they are not using many vanilla Skyrim assets.
>>344874812
no, there are some references here and there to Nerim but usually it's not really relevant. The story is completely separate and actually engaging.
>>344874069
Does the player have the same restriction? That was one of the things that made dual wielding so annoying.
>>344875570
No. Enderal is its own contained universe.
I was actually surprised that when I picked the "jew race" (actually not jews but they are the haggler race of that universe known to often be descendants of rich bankers or merchants) and some NPCs in the game were openly racist to me and told me to fuck off.
You immediately notice that it's not TES when they throw you out of a tavern because you look like a foreigner or some guy tells you that he's not going to tell you shit because "you look like an ape" when you play the race with black skin.
>>344875963
awesome, i'd much rather have an original universe. Fan-made quest mods are usually cringey fanfiction.
Are there still argonians or something similar?
>>344876190
no, the only race that resembles anything in TES is one that looks a little like high-elves with olive skin. The races in the game are fairly low-fantasy in my opinion, they are closer to our idea of real world races.
>>344876190
only 4 races: nigger, kraut, fugly elf and chink elf.
>>344872948
Can't see shit.
>>344860835
>>344861064
>>344864032
>how is this a criticism?
Mods may actually be good, brilliant even.
But the whole "mods do something better than the game" is stupid.
Of course they will do something better when the game is already out for years, you already know the major flaws of the base game, you have all the assets and tools at your disposal, and more importantly No Schedule to uphold as an employee at a gaming company and less pressure.
>>344876375
alright, cool
>>344875963
>variable interactions based on race
>you can still only be different shades of generic human
It's depressing because German folklore used to be so varied and original, but even in the realm of /tg/ any sort of fantasy setting you get from Germans today is this dull-as-shit derivative garbage.
>>344877993
this actually has more to do with lore. Nehrim is located in the same universe and other regions there have more race variety. It's just that Enderal secluded itself from the rest of the world after their "Lightlords" left the island and got dethroned. Their assumption was that bad influence from other regions would destroy their country. When you travel from the first village to the main-city your traveling companion actually talks about it when you look at an abandoned harbor from the top of the city. The harbor was shut down and the only outside trade allowed in the region is heavily regulated and goes through the main city harbor which is the only active one on the main-land. Citizens are not allowed to openly talk about how much their economy sucks, they kind of pretend that trading is still doing fine but it really isn't. A woman in the first village actually has a conversation with you about the wealth of your home-land if you picked the "jew" race (can't remember their name, it's the merchant race in this game) and you can tell her that where you come from everyone is just a bunch of greedy crooks.
>>344878610
this one?
>>344878791
yeah, that one
Memes aside, I really don't understand how Bethesda is held up on a pedestal as such a great developer. Their games always have mediocre graphics, terrible animation and bugs coming out the ass. They always seem to get a free pass and people make excuses for them, meanwhile a game like GTA V runs much better and has less bugs than any of theirs.
I find that the combat in their games isn't very good either. In Fallout 4 you're forced to use combat a lot, but the shooting mechanics just aren't all that good.
Honestly, New Vegas is my favourite of the first person Fallout games and I think it's because Obsidian is simply a much better developer.
English translation when?
>>344857764
>Developer-wannabes think their shameless rip-off is better than the vision of the original creators
Shoo. Go shill your ludicrous mod somewhere else.
>>344879535
A lot of people will say that The Witcher 3 is overrated, which I can agree to some extent. However, saying that any of Bethesda's games are on the same level is ludicrous.
The Witcher 3, whether you like it or not, actually looks and performs like an actual AAA title. The graphics are stunning, it runs nicely, bugs were way less common than in something like Skyrim and the combat was far more enjoyable.
>>344879330
You can find much more overrated overhyped dev: ubisoft montreal, bioware, cod devs, rockstar, blizzard, dice...
Even their drones dont proclaim their games as magnificient piece of technology. Their games are accessible, dont bother you with anti consumer practice (online only, drm...), has mod support and large mod community, better sense of progression and more varied writing and scenario than any gta or asscreed.
>>344879506
End of the month.
>>344863465
god that looks like shit
>>344879535
>Remember how TW3 was constantly compared to Skyrim even though those games are 4 years apart.
And they're also not really the same kind of game.
>>344879918
I can't wait but I only know french. Why aren't the developers french. Also hope the ost will be as good as in nehrim.
>>344880043
>french
>good rpg
nice meme
Waiting on an English release is killing me. I've been looking for a new RPG to play but fear I've played all worth playing.
Really looking forward to Enderal
>>344879330
>Memes aside
It's a meme because it's true, just like all good memes. Same with Bane; tearing that scene apart is funny because it's actually horrible
>>344880628
just do yourself a favor and stick with the slow start. I was skeptical the first 30 minutes but as soon as it picks up and you start exploring and visit the first village you'll get sucked in. I already had pretty high expectations for this mod beforehand but I was blown away how much attention to detail there was. The only thing that still bothers me is that they couldn't do much about the basics of the combat system, though it's much more enjoyable now because they actually made skill-trees meaningful with cool skills that change gameplay. If you do it right you can basically build yourself your own Dishonored protag with time-stop, fire arrows and teleport.
>>344857764
I wouldn't know, since I didn't play it, since its in fucking GERMAN. Fucking nazis.
>>344881589
English translation in 2 weeks with English voiceover.
>>344879330
Simply because no other AAA dev gives so much freedom to players/modders to do virtually whatever the fuck they want with their game.
>>344881695
(allegedly)
>>344881714
That makes them a bad developer though; maybe a good publisher. They keep their games like that because without user content they are garbage. Especially on PC, their last 4 games are completely unplayable without user patches, rebalancing, restored content, and graphics tweaking
thank fucking god the main city in Enderal actually feels like a fucking city, not three buildings and a main hall.
>>344881714
what the fuck is this
>>344881981
Are you saying it's a BAD thing that their games are so moddable?
>>344879759
low tier bait
>>344881714
that's anime as fuck in a bad way
>>344881858
I see no reason to doubt them.
>>344881714
>Trying to get CUHRAZY.
>In Skyrim.
So how easy is it to install, how well does it run, how compatible is it with common quality of life mods, and how often does it crash?
>>344883141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQLDKJFjoug
>>344883295
And almost forgot the most important part, does it have waifus?
>>344883295
>how compatible is it with common quality of life mods
it has Sky UI enabled as default so you don't even have to mod it for that. I also have immersive HuD installed. Basically any mod that doesn't actively change textures, objects, NPCs, skilltrees etc. should work.
>>344883582
but how easy is it to install?
>>344883378
It's not just skyrim in another setting anon. More like gothic 1-2.
>>344883745
So that's a no on followers?
>>344883728
Enderal has its own launcher with mod-loader. The mods in that list are directly pulled from the files you installed for Skyrim which means that any mod installed for Skyrim will show up in the list for Enderal as well where you can individually check or uncheck mods you also want to use for Enderal. So it's basically like installing Skyrim mods, nod additional folders required.
>>344883879
Haha no. It has followers. You are in for a surprise.
>>344883879
There are. Here you can see more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOMZgB5Zgis&list=PLi8NbLjC-CITQr50b__2Vd7IW4babM8ek
>>344879759
Considering how bland and desolate the base game is, I say Enderal takes it in spades.
So does every one have racist remarks for each other or is it only certain races? If I make a blonde, blue eyed race will everyone just absolutely adore me?
So far I've heard that they called Jews dirty penny pinchers and call anyone thats not white skin an ape, is it only for these certain races?
>>344882415
Yes
It's bad to release unfinished and broken games requiring a community to fix it
It's a good thing that they're moddable, but it's bad the way Bethesda does it
>>344885398
not everyone is racist. There are some characters that have a dislike for a specific race and openly voice that. It's not like literally everyone is going to hate you but there are definitely some characters that simply refuse to speak to you or start to insult you when you approach them.
>>344881981
Not saying it's not all good, just that the end result is what matters to most people who put up with BGS games.
>>344883141
>Implying you don't want to get CUHRAZY with your waifu
>>344857764
because bethesda make tools
just a pasta from the other thread;
enderal is shit
>>344886179
that guy has obviously not actually played the game or is trolling. He just pulled the information from the thread and then titled everything with "bland".
>map marker spazzing out
kek. What a bunch of made up bullshit
>world design is halfassed
even bigger kek
>>344886179
Have you played it or are you reposting someone else's bad opinion?
how does this compare to Falskaar?
>>344886179
either shit taste or retarded or hasn't played it
>>344886515
>>344886548
he also posted this crap creature that makes no sense in the giddy edgy world.
not him, but nobody actually argued with him (neither does anyone here), and that always a good proof he's right.
>>344886698
his pic was a screenshot of the enderal launcher with the thread below it. also, why don't you argue his points if it's so easy.
>>344880043
the atmosphere is goat in my opinion.
http://webm.land/media/tmp/74635fc1-6017-4a5c-95d8-97a7e8a41bf4.webm
fragmentation because of webm etc. but every area in the game has a lot of attention to detail, it's great
so hows the gameplay? I remember skyrim just being whacking what felt like a wet noodle until they fell down of boredom.
>>344887005
The enderal launcher can be downloaded from their site and is smaller than an MB. Any retard can fucking launch it. And even if he has the game...then what? So this one guy who has a shit opinion says it's terrible and dozens of other people in the thread think it's great? And your conclusion is "lol it's terrible look at this post".
>>344886869
This actually reminded me of a post when Fallout 3 came out, somebody had closeups of the cows, dogs and other animals, and concluded the game is shit based on them looking bad.
>>344886179
thats a bait post. the guy clearly has not played the game
>>344887005
Why? He's obviously baiting. I played nehrim and liked it. If enderal is just on the same level I will be ok with that.
>>344886869
Why does it make no sense and why is the world edgy?
What kind of mods will actually work with this without crashing? I might give it a try when the english release comes out. But Im wondering how well armor/weapon/animation mods and such will work with it.
>>344886869
>there is this one creature no one talked about
>this means the game is shit
>because I posted a screenshot of something that I think doesn't fit into the game that I haven't even played
>>344887129
Modders can't change the basic gameplay that much, so if you can't stand regular Skyrim, Enderal probably won't be much better for you.
>>344887027
stop shilling, the game is crap. it has "attention to detail" cause it's almost not open world. It's rather a free corridor roam, the game feels claustrophobic and doesn't give you an incentive to go off path one bit.
>>344887195
I posted that pic. I played the game. So where was I wrong? why don't you defend this crap game? where did I lie.
>>344887549
>just a pasta
>he also posted
>I posted that pic
goaway and stand goaway
>>344887549
(you)
>>344887549
>it has "attention to detail" cause it's almost not open world
Ohhhh. Yeah you're right the game is shit then.
>>344887549
Where did bad modders touch you?
>>344887240
>>344887265
>>344887373
>>344887402
what!? is this the whole sureai team shilling big on /v/? the game is shit. it's not just that creature, it's everything. The cringy way the game starts, where your dad goes mad and wants to eat shit, it's like something a highschooler would think to be cool. The world makes no sense, everybody attacks you and wants to kill you, yet the few villages you have have no defense whatsoever and look like paradise. The game is just allover the place, and besides the dev's effort there is nothing of quality in it.
>>344887549
>stop shilling, the game is crap. it has "attention to detail" cause it's almost not open world. It's rather a free corridor roam, the game feels claustrophobic and doesn't give you an incentive to go off path one bit.
proof that you haven't played it. There is more freedom to explore on one square-inch in Enderal than there is in 10 square-miles of Skyrim. The first area between the village and the starting point has 5 hand-crafted dungeons, several abandoned ruins, bandit camps, hidden chests, a fortress and a mill, 60% of those locations have a unique story attached to them, 20% contain 4 of the unique headhunter targets you can take on the notice board and the rest are free locations that are not connected to any side-quests and are just there for pure exploration. Go kill yourself if you actually think the game feels "claustrophobic" when I can't even fucking walk 5 feet without deviating from the main-road because I saw something to my right or left that is worth to explore.
>>344858849
it's not corrupted by Todd's faggoty ideals on how to make games.
>>344887549
>stop shilling
It's a free mod anon...
>>344881714
>literally "teleport behind u"
top kek
>>344887934
you sound like a guy who doesn't know German, watched a Youtube video and thinks he can talk about the game because he "kind of" understood what the game is about.
>>344887934
>people who disagree with me must surely be paid to do so!!
>>344887934
There's a letsplay in this thread. You're a liar.
>>344888017
they may be handcrafted, but they're handcrafted by amateurs, hence they're not good. your opinion is stupid and makes no sense. If anything, the devs should feel ashamed of themselves when generated world of skyrim feels better than their handcrafted one.
>>344888283
just admit you haven't played the game. I don't really get what you are trying to achieve.
>>344887934
yeah im getting paid to shill a free mod on a taiwanese image trading board.
ebin trolling you got there going anon. you truly earned all the (you)s
>>344888283
Do you really think anything in Skyrim wasn't crafted by an amateur?
>>344888283
there are some people who worked on gothic 1 in modders' team.
>>344888427
I would screencap the game running with this thread behind it, but you crap game doesn't have a windowed mode.
>>344888524
after seeing enderal, I can see why they're regarded as "professionals".
And I think that's the only reason why anyone should play this game IMO. If you fancy yourself a developer, you can play this game to see what an amateur games looks like, cause it's just that, amateur to the bone. From the story, lore, writing, design, presentation, world, to the "tweaks" they did to the gameplay, it all reaks amateurism
>>344888708
Gothic 1 is overrated garbage. All the models there looks like shit too, and the environment, and the story are just as bad.
I should've guessed that the only 10 germans who can code are responsible for both.
>always this one retard who shows up in any thread and tries to incite a shitposting war
>>344888708
>there are some people who worked on gothic 1 in modders' team.
probably the guy who made >>>>>344886869
picrealted
kek
>>344889048
Why do people say such inflammatory things!?
>>344888996
Is amateur the new /v/ buzzword?
>>344857830
/thread
>>344889048
should a thread be just dicksucking and praising something that clearly has no quality an value? if I was wrong, I would've heard at least ONE argument against my opinion, but all they're yapping is "hurr durr you didn't play the game"
>>344889337
>gets called out for shitposting
>keeps shitposting
every time
>>344863814
>Gothic 2 still had just mashing lmb
I thought you fought by holding down fight-mode key and swung your sword and nutsacks around using movement keys.
>>344889240
Oh yeah ,man, these guys are real artists.
Look at this shit, it came out the same year as Halo, Max Payne and GTA III.
It looks like they let the interns make that game.
>>344889137
>Is amateur the new /v/ buzzword?
No, apparently it's SUREAI's buzzword and their games. kek
>>344889449
nice argument kraut
>>344889686
>keeps getting more and more desperate
i dont give a shit about this mod
but why would you make a mod in german
>>344857764
I just hope the story and pacing isn't as shit as Nehrim's was.
>>344889569
Textures are better in mp.
>>344889864
the English version of the mod comes out in 2-3 weeks.
>>344889848
You've made no argument other than "umad".
>>344889975
Everything is better in MP - models, animation, voices, sound, music, gameplay, writing, balance, controls, everything. Its an actually good game.
>>344889945
>I just hope the story and pacing isn't as shit as Nehrim's was.
it's worse. In nehrim you could kind of get away from it, here everyone talks for hours about the lore and the crappy world. it's unbearable.
>>344890014
>he has reached his breaking point
>eventually will start crying himself to sleep
cheer up luv
>>344857764
Why do you people keep bullying Todd?
>>344890248
Jealousy.
>>344890119
no they don't. Most people will only actively talk about the lore if you ask them. And that's your own fucking fault if you get buttmad that an NPC tells you about the lore if you specifically asked them about the lore.
Fucking retards on /v/, I swear.
>>344890119
Fuck. Do they still send you down narrow slices of countryside crammed with over-leveled monsters to pad the story out, and are the towns you stop at still unnecessarily small and devoid of life?
>>344890430
see >>>>344887549
it's literally the same game only the mistakes are bigger and more annoying.
>>344890425
just a word of advice, the reason why people don't bother arguing with you is because your argument is "those things you like are shit". Every post where you talked about specifics like the dungeons or the story you just said "it's shit". No examples. Nothing. No specific analyzing thoughts about dungeons or the pacing. Just "it's shit". Everyone can write down "it's shit". I could take everything you said in your post, go to a different thread about a different game and incite a shitposting war with the exact same generic phrases about the game.
>>344890613
So you want others not to play the mod or what?
>>344890430
Villages and cities are all bigger than their equivalents in Skyrim.
>>344890670
no newfag. stop. it doesn't go that way.
you didn't give any arguments as to why ; the story, the lore, the openworld, etc. are good. Saying you like it means nothing, it has no merit. there is such a thing as bad taste. so fuck off with your childish argument until you actually think of a valid one.
>>344890974
irony
r
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y
>>344890974
You're not even trying anymore.
>>344890753
no, I just hate the arrogance of you fucks actually calling it GOTY and better than skyrim, while the truth is it's not even remotely good.
>>344891057
>>344891059
so can you imbeciles finally give me good argument as to why this is a good game?
>>344891094
everything is better than skyrim.
>>344890974
can you read a post and understand the words that were written? You wanted an argument. People in this thread posted their opinions, then YOU responded that the game is actually shit and demanded a discussion. That's okay if you had actually provided any arguments. But you didn't, of course no one is going to fucking argue with you. Retards like you are dime a dozen on /v/, showing up in random threads about any game starting to shitpost about it when they actually haven't played it. It's almost like a sport to some people here. So no, go fuck yourself no one gives a shit about what you have to say if your arguments are generic typical /v/ phrases.
>>344891094
It's better than skyrim. Skyrim was shittiest bethesda's """rpg""" before fo4.
>>344891187
I don't know, I haven't played it. Haven't even been posting in this thread before now. But the fact that you're "arguing" like a fucking retard while claiming the same of other people is hilarious
>>344891187
Give arguments why it's bad first. All you said were just your tastes.
>>344891094
but it IS better than Skyrim. It's also better than Oblivion. I play videogames for enjoyment, I have nothing to gain from liking Enderal more than Skyrim or Oblivion. It's just that I've played it and concluded that it's superior to both and therefore that's exactly what I'm saying.
does this work on a torrented copy?
>>344891191
>>344891254
so these are your quality arguments? kek. and you're attacking me.
I'll leave, if you honestly enjoy this game, I pity you, but okay, just stop shilling it, this isn't the SUREAI forum.
>>344891249
I did provide arguments faggot, read the thread.
>>344891094
It's bad, but it's significantly better than skyrim.
>>344891516
It should, as far as I'm aware all mods do.
Don't play this crap, Skyrim Remasterd is on the way. Play really good quality games.
>>344891516
Does my dick work up your ass?
>>344891254
Skyrim is probably the best game of the last decade, in terms of how many different people with different tastes got hundreds of hours of enjoyment from it on multiple platforms.
are there any sex mods already?
>>344891527
no one is going to argue with you because you haven't given anyone a reason to argue. You actually have to hit people that enjoy the game with hard criticism and write down something substantial of which other people can go off. No one can counter-argue your "the dungeons are shit". Like how is anyone supposed to respond to that?
They finally released this? Sick, when's the English version come out?
>>344891527
You did not. It seems to me that YOU'RE A BETHESDA SHILLER.
>>344891516
yes
>>344891489
but you can't just say it's better for it to be true. you have to have a reason why. And I didn't read that reason yet in this thread, not from you, not from other faggots.
>>344891527
what >>344891723 said
>>344891670
Just like cod amiright?
>>344891724
soon:^)
>>344891670
todd pls
>>344891723
you also can't say "dungeons are awsome" just cause they're handcrafted. because there is a possibility that they're made by retarded faggots who know shit. as is the case with sureai and enderal
>>344891769
>but you can't just say it's better for it to be true. you have to have a reason why
I can say that because that's what voicing an opinion is. I have no problem with you thinking it's shit, that's your opinion. You were the one presenting "it's shit" as an argument and then demanded other people to write an essay on why it's good when you haven't even done the courtesy of doing the same.
>>344891516
Skyrim's been on sale for as low as $5. You have no excuse.
>>344891769
World and dungeon design are god tier. The characters are interesting and multi-demensional. The story is worth giving a shit about. Combat is still crap, but at least they improved it with better skill trees and talents.
>>344891670
But quality is never determined by the amount of people who participated in a thing.
Very much the opposite, in fact, if it is widely liked it can´t be the best, lowest common denominator and all.
>>344891953
Do you not know what an opinion is?
>>344891834
Unlike CoD, since CoD is mostly played by the same kind of people, and mostly for 15-20 minutes a day, a couple of days per week.
Its a "play a round in between those things I have to do" game, drop in and drop out. Thats also why Heartsthone got popular, you play it while you have a 10 minute break, since it makes no sense to boot something more serious.
>>344891953
Yeah... Sureai abs enderal is shit..Gamers nowadays don't like great games like Skyrim made by Bethesda game studio...Newfags and shillers...
>>344891527
>so these are your quality arguments?
Or maybe they are keeping those for when you will deign to provide some, assjack.
>>344891897
How soon?
>>344891953
They've said that the dungeons were awesome because of the attention to detail and overall level design, to which you replied "no it's shit"
Go be retarded somewhere else.
>>344892057
>the more people like it, the worst it is
/v/ - the delusion
Is the base game enough to play this? Or am I going to need to pirate all the dlc's and stuff?
>>344891953
>you also can't say "dungeons are awsome" just cause they're handcrafted.
you can because every other person in this thread before you simply voiced their opinion. They didn't present them as arguments. If you read customer reviews on a restaurant for example they usually say "the food was awesome, they were punctual and it tasted good", then some faggot comes along and says "the food tasted like shit" and then demands a discussion with the people that said that the food was good. You are not inciting a discussion, you are simply stating your opinion. If you want other people to argue with you you have to post something to go off so people understand what your problem with the game is. YOU were the one demanding an argument so put the fucking effort into it and write something down that can actually be regarded to be a coherent thought that specifically addresses an issue the game has.
>>344892179:^)
>>344892109
Dude skyrim has the same player base stop being delusional. There's absolutely nothing to do in the game and at least morrowind had some ok stat system.
>>344892057
>But quality is never determined by the amount of people who participated in a thing.
> if it is widely liked it can´t be the best, lowest common denominator and all.
So quality is derermined by the amount of people liking a thing according to yourself, you stupid fuck
>>344892261
I'd be surprised if it didn't require all the DLCs. Most big mods do.
>>344891985
first, there is a thing that is objectively good. second, if it was so good and I was so wrong, you wouldn't have to write an essay on on it, you could defend it in a few words only.
>>344892015
I guess this is the pasta sureai gave you fags to use, so here is my EXACT response >>>>>344886179
>>344892424
nope, only requires base-game.
>>344857764
ikr
mods should be outlawed
>>344892489
That means no crossbows, then, which is kind of disappointing.
>>344892468
so explain how it's bad then?
>>344892468
Yeah I gave it to you because it has the same """""arguments""""" that you used.
>>344892468
Here's few words >>344892015
I hope theres a German-with-english subtitles option.
Assuming the German dub is decent, I think listening in a different language would enhance the magic.
Sort of like watching Wakfu in French.
>>344892468
Muuuum! I trolled 4chan again! Muum why are you crying? I'll find the job I swear mom!
>>344892468
there is no need to defend it since you haven't actually written up anything where defending the game is necessary. Why would anyone go through the effort? Stop being a faggot and explain to us the problems you have with the game.
Because Bethesda doesn't try to make good games, they want to make popular games. Not necessarily the same.
>>344892583
go lurk more, you don't even know how to browse this site apparently.
>>344892648
they're not "same", they're exactly the same you deluded shill faggot, go back to sureai form and regroup for tomorrow.
>>344892974
Are you retarded? Same level as your arguments faggot.
>>344892974
Why are you so butthurt?
>>344892858
>>344892745
>>>>>>>>344886179
there, there are my arguments. and if they are so crappy, than you should have no problems in debunking them
>>344893086
They are all wrong. How do I "debunk" then when they are simply wrong statements?
Shouldn't you prove them right, instead of me trying to prove a negative here?
>>344893086
You arguments are shit you're a bethesda shiller. Care to write some real arguments butthurt boy? Or else you'd be named a faggot lord of the thread, pucci hands.
>>344893086
Calling something shit isn't an argument, it's just an opinion.
>>344893210
>They are all wrong
nice argument. thanks for proving me right.
Don't you DARE fucking download this mod.
I'm fucking warning you.
The basegame is PERFECT.
Buy it if you haven't already.
You don't need mods.
Mods are fucking shit.
They ruin the experience.
Last fucking warning, /V/.
Sorry to stay on topic, but how does one get this mod? (I've never modded anything)
>>344893342
>hurr durr cant prove there isn't a cattle orbiting mars haha thanks for proving me right
Nigger those are just false. You did nothing to prove them right, for you to ask me to prove them wrong.
>>344893448
It's either on the nexus or moddb
>>344893448
Its only available in German at the moment. There is a (German) installer on their website, in German.
>>344893428
What are you talking about Howie? Mods are a feature! A selling point! Let them buy the game so that they can enjoy this wonderful experience that the modders have been hard at work. We need to praise people like this. I feel compellingly generous and almost think that the modders deserve a reward; a payment for their hard work if you will. And who better to show such appreciation than the very community itself? We should contant Gaben at once!
>>344893428
Or what todderino? :^)
>>344893646
lad, you have to provide an argument in the first place if you expect anyone to make a counterargument
>>344893558
Its with English subs right? I dont mind playing games in other languages.
>>344893805
No, it has no English subtitles. German language voice acting, and German subtitles only. As well as German menus and interface.
>>344861882
>>"deep, hardcore combat system"
This I played Enderal for a bit but they changed fuck all in the combat system. It's still the same shallow combat from the vanilla game.
>>344893805
English version in the end of the mont.
Is Trickster-or-whatever-it's-called class fun? What skills does it have?
>>344893896
He was speaking about Nehrim, at least
>>344862646
If we pay modders they will be incentivized to make something decent and it will help developers find talent.
>>344874629
>demanding
Confirmed: not a modder, doesn't use mods, & only ever fucking heard about it when bethesda dangled it in front of his chubby little console-babby face.
>muh b-b-basic economics
I swear to god 'economists' undergo industry-sponsored brainwashing & learn an alternate, capitalist-bizarro form of history & human psychology.
Money doesn't cure fucking cancer anon. It's not windex. It isn't going magically make a hobbyist community do a better job. And you are trying to fix something that's NOT BROKEN.
>doesn't care, hates mods, modders, mod-users
Why are you talking about things you know nothing about?
What the fuck makes you think your perspective has ANY value here? That it's even relevant?
Stop posting your braindead opinion in these threads you faggot.
>>344893985
No need for now.
Modders already do tons of decent stuff.
>>344893980
Well I was talking about Enderal and its combat system. OP claims it's better than the vanilla game but in the end it's just an expansion mod that doesn't change the base of the game. It's like praising the Dragonborn DLC and shitting on the base game itself even though they have exactly the same gameplay.
>>344893980
Nehrim didn't make any changes to combat either.
End of the month is years away
>>344894272
Yes it did, it didn't play like DMC but it made stamina actually matter, potions more balanced etc. It overhauled it to something acceptable.
>>344894541
>nehrim
>acceptable
is today opposite day?
>>344894727
RPGs with decent combat barely exist, so yes I think it was acceptable
>>344894246
It does change stuff, mostly like values and level scaling, which doesn't really solve the combat animations problem. I bet Enderal does something similar.
>>344894246
That doesn't mean it can't be better than the vanilla game to be honest. It's like fallout 3 vs new vegas, though I'm not sure Enderal is even good since I haven't played it.
>>344894727
nehrim was fucking amazing, fuck you
>>344894541
Magic became weak as shit though. At least damaging spells.
So, wait. Let's say I have a ton of mods that will obviously be incompatible. Is there a way to put that loadout aside and have this be its own thing? I don't wanna fuck with my current loadout.
>>344895126
Yeah, it's called Mod Organizer
>they persuaded 80 mostly professional voice actors to do it for free
how
>>344895126
Well it depends on what Manager you're using.
Nexus Mod Manager has a Profile system which is...sorta finicky. But should work.
Mod Organizer has a much better working one, but requires a little more attention if you're using mods that leave loose files behind in your overwrite folder (For example, if you're using any animation mods that say, require FNIS).
>>344887240
But fallout 3 was fucking terrible. What the hell argument were you trying to make?
>>344895126
As far as I remember, Nehrim created separate folder in oblivion directory so the mods didn't connect in any ways.
>>344895298
there are decent people out there who like helping other people out with their talents?
>>344895594
And Fallout New Vegas wasn't and was full with terrible models for various objects, enemies and NPCs. The issue is the fucking engine and Bethesda's SDK. The reason their games are easily moddable is because they themselves essentially work with modding tools. Fuck man, if you want to do some in-depth scripting in Skyrim you need to use the fucking Papyrus script manager. You know how old that shit is? People used that script manager way back when Morrowind was released. In fact I think it's even older than that, Daggerfall modding organized some mods through Papyrus unless I'm confusing something.
>>344895362
I think you don't have to let FNIS leave things in the overwrite folder, but then you have to create a new FNIS mod for all your profiles, so it's much more convenient to just run the generator as necessary and leave it at that.
>>344862761
>if you want tes levelling, go play an early access mmo survival grind
Or he could, you know, play and mod a tes game. Fucking autist
>>344857764
>modders couldn't have made their "game" without Bethesda creating the tools and structure needed
wow... really makes you think.. huh
>>344896597
By that logic, Bethesda deserve most of the credit for New Vegas.
>>344896597
So? Star Citizen will probably be better than any of the shit that Crytek produced.
Your point?
>>344896440
That's the Sync To Mods thing?
>>344896597
>it's a "a game is only good if you created the engine yourself" episode
>>344868905
>can't polish a turd
What games do you play anon?
>>344896597
Bethesda couldn't have created the game if computers were never invented. Really makes you think...or doesn't because that's a pretty retarded way to be going about it.
>>344896810
I don't actually know about Sync to Mods. That's the first I've heard of it. I'll have to look it up.
>>344896734
The point is to adress OP's claim that "modders make a better game than Bethesda".
They couldn't have made anything without Bethesda's content. Which makes it an intellectually dishonest statement at best, a fallacy at worst.
>>344896883
Nice projection but that's not what I said.
>taking credit for making a "game" when the engine and everything its based on was created by another company
>>344897081
Just as retarded as trying to claim a mod is a game. Might as well argue you can make a better sandwich than Subway by going to their store, buying the bread and all ingredients then making your own sub. Yeah, it might end up better, but who fucking cares when its not your own product in the first place?
>>344893985
We payed bethesda and they can't make something decent.
>>344896597
>carpenters couldn't have built their "house" without the tools and structure needed
No shit. That's kind of how civilization works.
>>344897306
>They couldn't have made anything without Bethesda's content. Which makes it an intellectually dishonest statement at best, a fallacy at worst.
it's not intellectually dishonest, it's the truth. Modders made a better game. No one claimed that modders made the engine.
>>344897462
It's not a game though. It's an overhaul mod.
>>344893985
or they'll go the route of most AAA developers and realize that they can get paid by creating mediocre to horrible content
>>344897306
>Just as retarded as trying to claim a mod is a game.
So Fallout New Vegas isn't a game? Because it's the exact same shit. Enderal is a total conversion, the vast majority of assets were created by the Enderal team, exact same thing that happened with Fallout New Vegas. Only the underlying scripting stays the same. If Enderal isn't a game then Fallout New Vegas isn't as well.
>>344897306
Modders never claimed to have made the engine or tools; just a better game. I don't see how these things are logically related at all.
>>344893985
Yes, and we can find clear proof of this by looking at Skyrim's paid mods, and seeing that the quality was immensely superior.
https://imgur.com/a/bqcla?gallery
>>344897306
Uh yeah anon.
If you asked subway to make you a turkey sub and you get raw turkey and a pickle stuffed into a crumpled torn-open roll, you can bet your ass I could make a better sandwich with the same ingredients.
>>344897640
It's not the exact same shit. By your logic Bethesda should step in and shut them down then since they created a "new game" by using copyrighted material.
>>344897534
It's not an overhaul you fucking autist. An overhaul is a modification of the existing content. This is a total conversion. It only uses the Skyrim SDK and utilizes some of its animations and scripting. Almost all assets were created by the modders.
>>344897836
Why didn't they use Unity like normal people?
>>344897836
A total conversion is still a mod.
Mod /=/ Game
>>344897534
Is Counter Strike Source a game, or an overhaul mod for half life 2?
>>344897764
>By your logic Bethesda should step in and shut them down then since they created a "new game" by using copyrighted material.
they can't because it's not commercially sold. It also doesn't market itself with the Skyrim name. Their modding tools do not forbid total conversions.
>>344897924
It's starting to blur the line. Is counterstrike a mod?
>>344897924
Game
>a physical or mental activity or contest that has rules and that people do for pleasure
A mod is by definition a game.
>>344897924
no it isn't. Fallout New Vegas is also a total conversion. Funnily enough Skyrim is a total conversion of Oblivion as well, they use the same engine and even have shared assets. Skyrim even still has remains in its scripting from the class system in Oblivion even though Skyrim has no classes.
>>344892007
>paying even 5$ for a piece of shit "roleplaying" game
>>344897968
So then why are you trying to promote it as a game? When it is in fact a total conversion mod.
>>344898039
It started as a mod, was later funded to become a full game (and sold as such).
>>344898102
No one cares about your autistic definitions when they're not relevant to what's being discussed.
>>344892260
>the more /v/ hates it, the better it is
/v/ - the truth. after reading this thread, I'm convinced of GOTY
>>344898102
>a mod is by definition a game
So every single mod on nexus is a seperate game now? You're seriously grasping here
>>344898170
A total conversion IS a game. It's just the term used when a game shares scripting and assets with another game but doesn't actually change anything of the original game. Enderal is not a mod to Skyrim, if you boot up Skyrim with Enderal installed it changes nothing about the Skyrim base game. That's why it's not a mod, it doesn't actually modify anything in Skyrim.
>>344898170
>definitions are not relevant
You are trying to claim something isn't a game when, by the very definition of the word, it is. You are a literal retard.
>>344857764
> made by teutons
>>344898120
>Skyrim even still has remains in its scripting from the class system in Oblivion even though Skyrim has no classes.
I think NPCs technically have classes.
>>344897836
>Almost all assets were created by the modders
>implying
>>344898267
Separate game? That's not what's being discussed here. You, or the retard you're trying to defend, is claiming that a modded game is not a game, period. You and/or he are factually incorrect.
>>344857764
Can someone give me a rundown of what it does? Or link to a description in English?
Also, can I play this with English sub's and German dub? I know the VA is going to be garbage regardless of language, but if it's in one I can't understand, I can pretend everything's an Oscar worthy performance.
>EVERY SINGLE MOD IS A SEPERATE GAME CUZ DEFINITIONS XDDDD
Yeah, and I'm the retard. Good on you anon.
>>344898498
>claiming that a modded game is not a game
Has literally not been said anywhere. But I understand that you have to lie and make things up to have an argument now that you can't even move your goalposts any further. Fucking retard, hang yourself.
>>344898457
I'm not fucking implying. Over 90% of assets in the game were created by the Enderal devs. They have everything listed on their page
>>344898626
Holy fuck you're stupid. It's time to stop posting.
>>344898534
The German dub is actually legitimately good. No idea how they did it.
Is this mod in german only or is it in english too? It seems rad as fuck. I want to play it.
>>344898715
>get btfo
>s-s-stop posting
Keep embarassing yourself you autistic fuck. No wonder you worship modder dick and play shit like Skyrim.
>>344898534
It's a large total conversion mod. Combat mechanics are largely the same, but most everything else, especially world and quest design, is different and for the most part, better.
English subs and german dub is possible, but the english version still isn't out (it's out at the end of July)
>>344898170
Why do you care so much about semantics? If the content and mechanics are substantially changed, it is a different game. "Game" here meaning "Game", not "interactive media played on a computer or console"
>>344898779
I don't even play Skyrim, I just came in to this thread to call you wrong and retarded.
>>344898534
>Can someone give me a rundown of what it does?
it's a total conversion aka it's a full game that has nothing to do with Skyrim and only uses it's SDK for the underlying scripting of the game as well as shared animations. That's as far as it goes. The world is new, the locations are new, the weapons are new, the spells are new, the skill-trees are new, the characters are new, the dialogue is new, the story is new, everything is new.
>>344898743
English version comes out in two weeks.
>>344898875
The soul train is back?
>>344898891
Projecting your own problems on to others isn't a healthy way to live anon
>>344898918
but what about level scaling and riddicolus HP sponge dungeon bosses
are they still there?
>>344887027
>http://webm.land/media/tmp/74635fc1-6017-4a5c-95d8-97a7e8a41bf4.webm
holy shit that actually looks pretty good. More interesting than any city in Skyrim for sure.
>Er kann Deutsch sprechen nicht.
>>344898743
just learn german, takes a few days
http://www.memrise.com/course/629122/a1-german/
>>344899067
What does projecting have to do with anything. You should probably look up the definition before you ever use it again. While you're are it, look up the definition of "game" so you can realize what a retard you've been twice in one day.
>>344899075
no. Level scaling doesn't exist. Enemies are hand-placed in the world and all have specific levels for any given area, this means that if you go back to the starting area to the wolves you met in the beginning you are going to wreck them when you are 10 levels ahead.
Loot is also hand-placed, dungeons do not randomly generate loot. I am currently hunting down a specific armor set that you can find in the world. I already got 3 pieces, need the chest-piece now and I get the set-bonus.
>>344886179
god damn, you won't believe how shitty skyrim is after playing the witcher3
enderal only makes this worse
>>344899103
that's an amazing soundtrack for a mod. Scrap that, that's good even if it wasn't a mod.
Ok, memes aside. Is this good, or is /v/ just shilling it out of hatred for Bethesda?
>>344899012
Yeah, haven't gotten to it yet but a lot of elements from Nehrim return.
There's also a magical radiation system similar to Fallout.
>>344898645
Link or didn't happen. All I see is reused skyrim assets.
>>344862646
You cannot both believe in the free markets and not support paid mods.
>>344899240
Why would I bother learning German when Arabic will be the official language by 2020?
>>344899103
Meh. Le sad piano music & walking don't impress me.
How big is the game?
>>344899243
>he keeps doing it
Whatever makes you sleep at night, little autist.
>>344899240
I can't really afford that kind of a timesink. does that game come with english subtitles for german audio. I would dig that a lot more than an english voiceover.
>>344894051
Are you saying capitalism is not the best possible system?
>>344899578
Reminder that free markets can only exist with regulation.
And that anon is just as retarded as you are, because he was being sarcastic.
>>344899492
It is VERY good. English version isn't out yet but like I said, it's Skyrim with better quest and world design.
>>344899609
30-40 hours for the main quest, and I'm gonna say around 120 hours for a completionist, so around the same as Nehrim.
>>344899578
>>344899735
this just goes to prove how a common pleb is too suspectible to extremism. completely free market is as bad as completely state controlled economy. the best solution has always been a point somewhere between extremes.
>>344899696
>Are you saying capitalism is not the best possible system?
It isn't even a real system at all. Its an idea based only in the fact that we have imperfect information about our future.
Its exploitation at best and slavery at worst.
Economists are snake oil salesmen.
>>344874629
What makes you think that people will suddenly pay for something that has been free for years?
>>344899696
It's the best economic system human civilization has known.
But people who pursue a 'free market' which lacks any kind of regulation are the same kind of people who think anarchy has long-term viability.
>>344899115
you neither
>>344899103
Yeah, that was some pretty good shit. One of the first things I thought after he got into the open air was, "damn, this looks like the kind of place I could get lost in," and it doesn't even look like it'd be the capital or anything. Fucking Solitude was a straight road with barely anything in it; quests, unique peoples, reasons for existing besides muh civil war. This shit looks so nice, and all the little attentions to detail really do make it stand out.
One thing though, I don't know if that music playing is from the game or not, but if it is, holy shit that is some damn good ambient mood music. It puts a whole 'nother layer of character on the city that really sets the tone of the town.
Fuck mane, I didn't get any vibe like this from Skyrim.
>>344899793
What about when it comes to space? Does it all take place in that one city? (seems pretty densely-packed)
>>344899492
It's pretty good. Less open world than skyrim, more focused on the main story with stuff to explore on the side. Bit of a long introduction. You might not like the skills and levelling process, and there's a few things concerning magic that might be questionable too. Story is pretty neat though, as is the voice acting. Quests are pretty fun and varied. Overall theme is a bit more grimdark with a side of psychological horror dotted here and there, but still enough heroic fantasy fighting. Might not want to get too attached to some of the npcs in the game, the main story kills some of them off, though I've yet to see how many. Pretty neat world design, lots of clutter everywhere, forest and paths actually feel like real places, which I think Nehrim did pretty well too. Feels a little like playing Oblivion at times.
Overall bredy good. I'll play some more later on.
>>344857764
thats not exactly a bragging right
>POLISHING A TURD, STILL A TURD
Hey guys please download 1000s of mods so you can make a video game playable.
Holy shit are Bethesda fanboys the worst people ever? How can you play this literal garbage games that are still shit with every mod ever. I can't believe people spend time creating these mods for a shit game. YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD.
>>344900193
>and it doesn't even look like it'd be the capital or anything
you know what's funny? This isn't even a secluded city. What you saw is ONE of five districts in Ark, a bigger city. This part of the city is where the beggars, smugglers, criminals and addicts as well as sick live. So basically this is just a sub-hub of the actual city.
>>344900335
cry harder
question for the non-german folks: will you play with german or english voices?
>>344900572
English
German just sounds disgusting to be honest
>>344900572
English. I don't really understand the people who think it's more immersive or something when they don't understand the language they're hearing. People speaking a foreign language doesn't make me feel like I'm in another world, because if I were actually in that world, I'd speak that language.
>>344900193
>One thing though, I don't know if that music playing is from the game or not, but if it is, holy shit that is some damn good ambient mood music. It puts a whole 'nother layer of character on the city that really sets the tone of the town.
It's the music that plays when you enter it for the first time tho it's bugged for some people so it sometimes just instantly plays the regular soundtrack. It has a different soundtrack when you enter it again. Wait a second, I'll try to get back there and record a webm.
>>344900690
Your mom is disgusting to be honest and I still fuck her each night.
>>344900491
How well does it run on a modern rig?
>>344900839
well I did learn english by playing Morrowind
>>344900984
That really just says more about you and your standards than anything else
>>344900214
There is one captial city with I think five districts. There's a few more settlements dotted here and there, but most of the game is wilderness, abandoned villages and fortresses, ruins, that kind of thing. Less populated than skyrim in the sense that you won't run into people outside of the city or settlements, which is reasonable considering the world is basically falling apart at the seams and everyone is dying of so many different gruesome things. The world feels pretty big though, especially since there's no fast travel other than teleportation scrolls and those flying beasts. All the areas look very pretty and detailed though.
>>344901028
runs well enough on mine. I noticed some minor fps slowdowns in areas where you can look out wide in the open and since I've put up view distance all the way to the top it has to calculate a lot of shit. But that wasn't stutters.
>>344901143
It says most about your mom though.
>make games that sell MILLIONS
>the biggest appeal is that you can add free mods on top of the shallow POS you paid money for (unless you're a loser who cant save money for a used 2500k and 280x)
Tell me again why bethesda deserves any praise when most people who actually play their games for substantial amount of time do it for the mods?
>>344900491
>sub-hubs of the city are actually distinct from one another
>sub-hubs for a city that's not even the largest
Well hot damn.
Oh fuck mane.
>>344857764
>I made a better game than Bethesda
Literally everyone can make that statement
>>344901304
The same city also has a market district, a nobility district, a harbor, a worker district with a bunch of blacksmiths and a "foreigner" district with some shops, a tavern and the city watch. I also think there is a whore-house somewhere, can't remember if it's in the smuggler district or in the foreigner district.
Are there even any other german speakers who've played some of this here?
>>344857764
So judging by this thread, everyone hates skyrim because it's AAA with shitty skill leveling and writing, but people are shitting on this game because it has too much dialogue and since it's made by fans it's just autistic shit?
>>344901391
Funny because there are no games that can match the level of TES and Fallout. Witcher 3 is the closest.
>>344901817
weak and shamefull
>>344901918
>Bait maymay
>>344901201
That sounds fucking legit.
>>344901561
Can you actually use the whorehouse, or is it just there?
>>344902128
I never tried. But since the prostitutes actually encourage you to interact with them I imagine so.
>>344900690
>>344900839
are you english native speakers?
>>344901294
Are those cheetos?
>>344889864
>why would you make a mod in the language you speak?
>>344902291
I've had the pic for several years and never figured it out. Maybe some weird fishsticks. I dunno.
>>344902254
>>344900839 here. Yes, I'm a native English speaker, from the US. I'm actually interested in other languages. I know a good amount of French and some German, but not enough of either that I'd play a whole game in those languages if an English version was available.
>>344899103
>>http://webm.land/media/tmp/74635fc1-6017-4a5c-95d8-97a7e8a41bf4.webm
why does the german voice acting sound better than the professional voice acting done for AAA games in germany? fuck's sake
>>344902291
They look more like carrots to me.
>another studio uses Elder Scrolls lore better than creators of the original series
Bethesda General.
>>344902438
They're just large baby carrots
Also I demand you explain the gif passing through the bridge in this gif
>>344902637
>modern Bethesda
>creators of the original series
they are literally a different company
>>344901294
They design good sandbox for exploration. This makes their games the perfect ones to mod.
If their game were heavily story driven with less focus on exploration, open-world, dungeons, etc. No one would bother making mods.
>>344902814
Its just doge being smart
>>344902853
Todd worked on Redguard when the main part of lore was created.
>>344902912
>If their game were heavily story driven with less focus on exploration, open-world, dungeons, etc. No one would bother making mods.
Google ''Max Payne 2 mods''
>>344902912
But everything since Oblivion feels randomly generated with a bunch of stuff thrown in except some parts of Fallout 4/Skyrim.
The only game of theirs I played where the world felt 'designed' was Morrowind
>>344903102
>Todd worked on the shitty cashgrab so I'm right!
>>344902591
>>344902814
Why would you feed a dog baby carrots?
Forget the question of whether he likes them- it's a choking hazard.
Also, the dog tried & failed to carry the stick over the bridge a couple times before that.
>>344902471
interesting. i'm german and i usually play games with their "native" voice acting because it's usually the best. if you understand the language, you also won't lose anything in translation (jokes or dialogue details for example).
just was interested if english-only/native speakers always play everything in english or not.
>>344903231
What? Modern ES lore literally was created when they worked on Redguard. This is a common fact.
>>344902912
>If their game were heavily story driven with less focus on exploration, open-world, dungeons, etc. No one would bother making mods.
Sure they would, if the same tools were still there. It's just that the community might be more focused on making story-driven mods, which I would personally have no problem with.
I like to compare Skyrim and Neverwinter Nights. Both are known for their modding tools and user-made content, but they're very different about it. Skyrim mods are mostly about adding more stuff to the existing world or changing the gameplay or character building in some way. NWN mods are more focused on telling stories in self-contained modules. Skyrim does have some quest mods, just as NWN has some mods that just add weapon models, but the difference in priorities is apparent. I think it's interesting how the two games are sort of opposites in that way.
>>344903424
>Bethesda Softworks = Bethesda Game Studios
>>344903131
Found 61 total mods for Max Payne 2 on some modding site.
>>344903696
back in the day we didnt have a single site for every mod
pretty much every fan forum had its own mod section
have fun looking!
What went wrong?
>>344899103
It is also going to be even emptier than any city in skyrim
>>344899012
I loved that quest
>>344902637
What is this supposed to be? I thought there are no beast races there
>>344904064
one is perfect vanilla
the other is literally unplayable even after 40.000 mods
>>344903281
>interesting. i'm german and i usually play games with their "native" voice acting because it's usually the best. if you understand the language, you also won't lose anything in translation (jokes or dialogue details for example).
Well, yeah, I can see why you'd do that if you understand the language, and after studying languages for a while, I understand how translations can be difficult and can cause things to get lost. But I don't consider myself fluent in either of the two other languages I've studied, so if there's an English version, that's what I'll play. I also think that if someone is going to learn another language just for gaming purposes, it's very likely it will be Japanese instead of any European language.
It's also my understanding that knowing more than one language is much more common in Europe than it is here in the US, so that's another factor. We only have two countries that border us, and one of them has English as one of its official languages, so there isn't as much of a need for additional languages here.
>>344857764
Happened before
Nehrim: At Fate's Edge
>>344904173
>emptier
Impossible.
>>344904064
Morrowind is much, much older than nexus
Nobody is uploading old morrowind mods there
>>344903253
>choking hazard
It isn't. Carrots are a common dog treat for people who don't want to buy the processed stuff and get their dog all fat
>>344904064
All Morrowind mods are on Filefront
>>344903281
ignore this post
germans always pull this shit, trying to force everyone to learn their useless language
>>344904231
yeah obviously. i wasn't judging, just wanted to know how natives see it because i lack that perspective.
kinda want to see a comparison between english natives/non-natives now in choosing japanese voices for japanese games.
>>344905150
Yes it is, they don't even have the teeth to chew it, let alone self-control.
If the pup wolfs it down that could be his last meal.
Being a hazard doesn't mean it happens every time.
some places are really relaxing.
>>344905516
are you dumb? i was just explaining why i prefer the native tongue of the game, the post wasn't about learning german at all you cunt.
or do you mean your american friend who is 1/64th german by saying "germans"?
>>344906603
sure you did kraut
>>344906729
fuck it. No English translation for you you fucking Affe.
>>344906790
yeah thats what you guys said about Unteralterbach too!
>>344864154
>posting Tumblr Universe on /vee/
kys
>>344906790
No ignore him pls gib
>>344904173
>I loved that quest
Same.
>fall deep into the earth
>steadily fight your way through abandoned halls
>end up at the train station for the dead
>conductor tells you to get on
>point out that you're not dead
>conductor tells you to get on anyway
>mfw
>>344857764
pictured not related?
>>344863542
Berghain is a shithole even as a concert venue but pls. What are you talking about? You've never been there, that's obvious.
that feel when no English translation
Will it get a PS4 release?
>>344909235
Are there english subs?
>>344909621
Absolutely not.
>>344909879
Nope
>>344900193
>>344900969
This is the other soundtrack for that area I was talking about. There is a third one where only a guitar plays, I don't know if it's random or has specific requirements like quest-states or class requirements.
Also accidentally stumbled upon that whore-house I was mentioning previously.
http://webm.land/media/tmp/676bb5b6-80a6-4fc6-8fa3-ae169227a9e5.webm
>>344909879
English translation with subs and voice over will be released in 2-3 weeks. So yes, you'll be able to play it in English fairly soon.
>>344861882
man you are an autist with shit taste
Nehrim was one of the greatest mods ever made for any game, and enderal already looks much better.
>>344910108
>the upper part of the nipple actually peeks out of the prostitute's top
GOTY 2016
>>344910108
Interesting how the lone girl dancing was named "Whore", while the ones in the actual whorehouse were named "Prostitute".
>>344910108
>you will never rescue Asha from the whorehouse and make mixed babies with her by having consensual sex in the missionary position
>>344876781
Have you played Nehrim? World modeling and story beat vanilla Oblivion by far. It's not like they did some crazy witchcraft with it, they just put in some effort to make the main quest worth following and the world fun to explore. That first visit to the main city, or that journey to a sunken city ruin through stormy and dangerous terrain stuck to my mind over most that I did in Oblivion that wasn't modded in, save a few side quests.
It's a good mix that Bethesda could have done themselves, but didn't. When making Skyrim, they had a metric fuckton of mods to Oblivion, both for gameplay, stories, even interface design, to take inspiration from, but somehow they didn't think that was necessary and made another rather blandish main quest, shit UI, samey regions and managed to make worse guild quests than in Oblivion. There's very clearly a certain amount of "not giving a fuck" involved in Todd's gamecraft philosophy, either by ignorance, hubris or the expectation that modders will do his job for him.
>>344910821
One of them does it for free
>>344910108
really shows that this isn't a Bethesda game since they actually call prostitutes....well prostitutes. And whores are whores. In Bethesda they'd probably be called "Streetgirl" and be dressed like nuns.
Is it out in English with German voice or not out yet?
the Enderal soundtrack is fucking amazing. Some of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIWFuwNBdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUMb7erzxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yx86JRbTnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuloFUh-DA
Also the intro song when you enter the Smuggler district of Ark
>>344899103
http://webm.land/media/tmp/74635fc1-6017-4a5c-95d8-97a7e8a41bf4.webm
>>344911742
It's gonna be out with english voice, subtitle in 3 weeks.
new thread
>>344912143
>>344912143
>>344912143
>>344890112
maybe because mp was a corridor shooter and not an open world rpg?
![Gothic+1+Game[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qxnigdA.jpg "Gothic+1+Game[1]")
