Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
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Remember the hype edition
Post new dank OC's and discuss spoilers and shit
C O M P L E X
Threadly reminder 999 had the best Uchi ending
>>344858015
who
who made this
During the ab game if Carlos chose betray first what happens? How does he justify it? I assume if u choose ally next Junpei will accuse you of choosing betray first?
>>344858015
>someone spent time on this instead of making porn
COMPLEX
MASTURBATIONS
>>344858015
What the fuck
>>344858015
MIND VIBE
>>344858015
>>344859214
>>344859365
>>344859495
>>344859703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfOsjVT8mlU
at least post the original
>>344857762
It's "OCs", not "OC's". If you're going to make an OP, at least refrain from fucking up such a simple goddamn bit of English.I don't need more ZTD-related disappointment
>No answers, just more questions and retcons
What should I do, anons? I waited so long for a satisfying conclusion and now I feel so disappointed and empty inside
>Phi left everyone to die because Sigma hurt her feelings
Wow, what a bitch
>>344860075
It gets better the more you go to these threads. Just don't replay ZTD and it will be fine.
>>344859963
To be fair, you can figure out the answers to the questions that aren't about the 999 cast after finishing ZTD.
But a lot of stuff from VLR did get dropped for whatever reason.
>>344860210
The worst part about it is that anyone who managed to leave aside from the true end would never have been able to find help because they're on the moon and only Dio knows the terrain
>>344860210
you talking about vlr?
How does delta even know about the future timeline that 8 billion people die anyway? Did he read the mind of some future shifter? Surely there must be at least 1 timeline in the future someone finds out his identity due to the infinite number of possible timelines, shifts back to the past and inform people of who he is and kill him before he does his crap.
>>344859746
kek. 9/9
>>344861023
I don't understand how he couldn't mind hack a person who ever saw or knew who the single fanatic was.
Is there a download link for the full ost at this point?
>>344859963
(You)Stop being such an autist, and quit your incessant whining
>>344861578
Sorry, newfriend. You'll have to find another website if you expect somebody to stop posting purely because you disagree with them. Call me an autist, again. That really carries your argument and makes you sound like someone with worthwhile input.Polite sage
>>344857762
Who are Participants 1 and 6?
>>344862204
The autist was about the OC spaz you had. And in terms of whining, I'd prefer it if you actually created an argument and tried to responded to the numerous rebuttals leveled against your one complaint. I'm fine with disagrements as long as they put foward an argument of substance and don't just repeat the same discredited shit. But I figured that'd be too much. Enjoy grovelling in your anger
>>344862338
Dio and Lotus
who has the picture where's daddy where's mom and where's kyle
>>344862876
>see thumbnail
>baby Delta in the bottom right panel looks like the Reddit mascot
o lawd
>>344860228
I can attest to this therapeutic claim. It's true anon, the memes of ZTD are potent enough to heal a heartbreak. This was what Delta meant when he claimed complexity, his true motives were to catalyse hot new OCs on /v/.
>that feel when don't give a shit at this point so long as Diana, Sig and Phi are happy
>Who is best tier?
>>344864074
>non-ant resolution
>>344864176
I literally agree with only one placement on this. It's gotta be bait right? Have a better one. It ain't perfect, but it's better than your shit
>>344857762
>participant 2
FUCK YOU DYLAN
DELET THIS
Right before Team Q submits their vote, Eric roll up his sleeves and say "Time to use brute force!" or something like that.
What exactly did he mean by that? I thought he was saying that HE was going to be the one doing the vote by using force on Sean... but then we see that Sean is the one doing the vote anyways...
>>344857762
WHEN I SEE LIGHTNING
>>344864310
I'm ok with this list.
>>344861153
maybe that persons ability is to not get mind hacked
> yfw "this will be revelead in ze4"
>>344858015
>>344859746
... huh.
so that's what I come back to after a few days.
So, it's been a while since I have been in one of these threads. What is the general opinion of the game now that everyone's had some time and some of the people have moved on and what not?
Personally, I enjoyed ZTD and thought it was a decent ender, but it wasn't perfect.
>>344864865
A supreme disappointment and I genuinely regret my time spent playing.
>>344864665
Yeah. It's the best I could find, and I can't be fucked making my own, so I use it
>>344864865
Don't listen to >>344864948 Some people feel that way, but according to polls and discussion and shit, three quarters of /v/ would call it a good game. Flawed, but good
>>344857762
>We never got to see a real Punished Sigma
instead it's all "h-h-hey guys w-w'ere j-j-just gonna do what he s-says?"
>>344864865
It's good if you aren't expecting VLR answers and don't have high expectations for Brother.
>>344865013
>strawpolls with ~30 people
>any significant representation of /v/
Uchikoshi apologists are downright embarrassing to observe.
>>344865129
>697 votes
>88% say it's worth a play
>Over 500 say it is a good game
>Made so people can't same fag without a proxy (I know because I made it)
Check it and weep. http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353/r
Salty fucks are downright embarrassing to observe
So has there been any news regarding a Q&A yet?
>>344864865
I hated the Memory Fragments system.
I found the dub to be mediocre, shame because VLR had an amazing dub.
Puzzles were simple.
Other than that, it was en enjoyable experience. I liked the characters and the twists.
>>344865129
http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353/
To be fair, the poll has around 700 votes.
>>344864865
The game is good enough until you reach the last third. I think most people enjoyed the ride, but for me personally the ending really ruins the whole experienceand VLR to some extend.
>>344865482
This. I loved the ride and was really invested, but the last third and the conclusion made the whole experience sour for me.
What did people think about the memory fragment system? I liked it, but I felt it created a far more linear game than I would've liked. There was only really 4 timelines and each is really simple. I likes the variety of scenarios that VLR diverged into, and I felt like that was misinng for the most part. I would've fixed it by destroying the specific team setups (Keeping three to each with one leader in each, but mixing up the members). Mechanically, what would you guys've done to fix it?
>>344865302
Not to mention the poll was made at the height of the hatred, when shitposting was in full force
>>344866316
I didn't like it because it made me feel lest invested about what happened. But at least they took some risks trying to do something new, and I like that
>>344866893
Yeah, I liked it. It just made me feel less invested, and feel like the complexity of the story took a step back from VLR. But they tried something new and I appreciate that
>>344859746
'My motives are often complex', nailed it.
>>344866316
I thought there would be more situations where they'd woken up and forgotten stuff so you got really confused about what happened previously and the timeline of events.
But each branch was pretty much 'Just after the execution' and then another bit.
I suppose getting rid of multiple timelines wouldve solved that but that's the point of the game
>>344867254
Yeah. I would've almost preferred they didn't have the executions, because that would solve that problem. It'd allow the timeline to branch more at various points, instead of the execution and Carlos's shifting for the most of them like we got.
>>344859746
That was amazing
>>344859746
Wesker's voice is so relaxing.
>>344866316
It could have been used much better. Major problem I had with the fragment system was, that instead of going vertically through a flowchart we had to go horizontally. This would've been fine if they used in some clever ways, like two fragments being after each other according to the time on their watches, but actually being switched chronologically after the reveal or thinking C-Team got executed after the vote, when in fact they got unlucky with the dice roll.
As of now, you never need to think about when or in which timeline a fragment happens. No need to puzzle about the correct order of events. Also in my case it even spoiled the outcome of other fragments likeJunpei's decapitated head.
>no CIA guy x Zero memes
CALL THE COPS
Anyone want to do a Eric and Sean version of this?
>>344869223
Yeah, that's pretty spot on. I hated the horizontal aspect of it. Everything went to shit too quick in each timeline
>>344869872
Too lazy bro.I'm just here to bump the thread
I forgot I had these.
Just got the game after amazon botch, dropping by to make one post and then avoiding spoilers.
>do Q team pod room as one of first fragments
>neat, enjoyable puzzles.
>pod comes out
>mira is dead
>eric is going insane, flashback, his dad killed his brother and he had to toss the body in the lake
>monitor turns on
>junpei is dead, carlos kills akane
>ALL of D team is dead
I JUST CLEARED ONE PUZZLE ROOM UCHI, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KILL EVERYONE ALREADY.
Courtesy of a monumental fuck-up.
>>344859746
Is the person that made this in the threads?
>>344871181
What are the odds of picking the fragment that leads to the most early exposition?
have fun, as long as you can
>>344871239
>Carlos as Charlie
>I wouldnt have had the chance to meet you
kek
>>344871418
The rad 6 one is pretty expositiony as well
>>344858015
>still no good ZE porn, instead we have this
>first half of the game is boring as fuck
>shit finally gets interesting at the Sigma and Diana having sex/ Junpei giving Akane the ring/ all the cool time travel shit with Carlos
Then Delta shows up and everything goes to shit. Literally nothing was explained and it ended abruptly + COMPLEX MOTIVES
I am glad that I pirated this shit. Such a disappointment.
>>344873587
It explains some shit. Not as much as it should though.But still, fuck you I liked it
These threads are dying. I know it's sleepy time in burger land, but we used to be able to sustain one still. It's understandable, but makes me kinda sad.
>>344873587
dumb pirate fag
You know i loved 999 and VLR but the overarching story of them and ZTD don't make any goddamn sense.
I love you guys.
Life is truly unfair, don't you think ?
>>344873587
I felt exactly like you two days ago
I'm so glad I pirated it
so, was kyle gab or was kyle the snail?
I blame the budget but I did genuinely enjoy the game for the most part.
Things that annoyed me:
>bootstrap paradox
>no Kyle/?/Blick Winkel
>"invisible" delta as on option for the Perceptive End
>Gab wasn't Zero/Kyle/Blick Winkel
>No liberal use of super speed chess shifting by Sigma and Phi early on
>No liberal emotionless eldritch horror of Akane ruthless using the morphogenic field to take Carlos and Junpei for a ride
>speaking of that, why is Akane all NOT millions of years of pent up emotions for Junpei and the world and puts the same ruse of a face from 999?
>the 90 minute amnesia did fuck all, was expecting this would fuck with Esper abilities
>Q should've been Kyle/Blick Winkel
>Q team was shit
>>344864310
This is accurate
>>344864310
Fuck you buddy, Tenmyouji is the only good Junpei, and his characterization doesn't revolve around Quark nearly as much as young Junpeis' revolve around desperately wanting to fuck their shitty waifu.
>>344865302
Only 26% said that it's on par with the rest of the series. 28% said it was mediocre or worse. 74% said it was worse than the other two.
>>344881351
>Disliking bootstrap paradoxes
>>344864523
Did we ever actually see Sean vote? I thought the game only made it seem like that's what was happening.
>>344882170
Enjoy finding your original timeline for the Brooch faggot
>>344857762
Now I think about it, the numbering of the characters didn't even matter in the end, now was it even referenced at all
>>344882448
Im posting this every day until e3
>>344882384
>Eric never complaining about having to make the old fuck vote
Stupid twist brought the game down
>>344882535
Eric and Mira complain about 3 times in total, maybe even more
>>344864176
> Alice above anybody aside from 9th Man
This may be the worst tier list I've seen yet
>>344882535
Actually if I remember correctly during the shower execution phase when you do the vote to push the button Eric does call out Sean
>>344866316
I found the fragment system really disappointing too. I like the idea of a non-linear narrative but in practice, having the characters' memories erased every 90 minutes meant that there was no build-up or development, it was just the same isolated drama in a vacuum on repeat until they found out how to get around it. I didn't like the team setup either, it made us miss out on what could have been some great interactions between the other characters. It's a shame because I thought Sean and Carlos were great additions to the cast but their potential was practically flushed down the toilet because of how rushed this was.
>>344859746
Damn, Zero's english voice is great
>>344883140
MY NIGGA,
this is the the thing that bothered me the most
>>344881351
Iliked Q team.Admittedly for mostly one character though.
Okay, COMPLEX motivations aside what was the point of Delta giving his parents an acid shower?
He can't shift so if he fucks up and kills his parents wouldn't he disappear or something?
>>344884060
what's the point of him giving himself an acid shower?
>>344882947
But titties though
>>344883949
>get happy ending
>original Sean had brown hair
>oh shit it's Kyle
>the game ends, Kyle is nowhere to be found
i waited
4 fucking years
for THAT?!?!
Uchikoshi, I feel betrayed. What the fuck was up with that ending? It's like they stopped writing halfway through. Did I fucking miss something?
>>344884458
Life is simply unfair.
>>344884458
COMPLEXfrugal budgeting
>>344884408
>original Sean had brown hair
>oh shit it's Kyle
What? Kyle has black hair.
>>344884408
why would it be kyle?
kyle is made far in the future and as hes sigmas clone he has blue hair not brown
>>344884869
>blue
I think you are confusing the shirt
So.
Were you guys glad it came out? Would you rather ZTD not have been made at all? Or do you think that the game is a net positive all things considered?
>>344884408
I honestly thought he was supposed to be Kyle in the beginning, it seemed like they shared some of the same mannerisms even, but I guess I was just imagining things because of mask + amnesia.
>>344884937
a whoops yeah i mean black
why does ztd sigma have blue hair though?
fucking bad 3d models
Do they ever explain why Alice is only wearing an open jacket and some jewelry to cover her nipples?
>>344884974
>Would you rather ZTD not have been made at all
This desu. This game made VLR look bad, everything Akane said before was a lie, and Sigma was surprisingly incompetent.
I couldn't care less about the terrorist.
>>344885131
>>344884767
>>344884725
There are so many questions still unanswered. We don't even know ifCarlos shot Delta.
Also, what was withQ/Delta/Sean? They had been calling the little robot boy Q the entire time, and even he was surprised when he found out his name was Sean. As soon as Delta is introduced, they start calling the robot boy Sean, even though they shouldn't have known that name.
>>344885102
She was posing as a hooker.
>>344884974
I really wish with all my heart that this could have had more time and money to be made because I think it had the potential to be the best one in the series, but it still entertained me in the end even if it was a disappointment so yes I would take it over nothing.
>>344871418
D team force quit box is dangerously spoilery if you figure out the solution.
>>344885421They never called him Q, he was always Sean but the game played a bit of a dirty trick by not having them call his name out loud until the reveal (unless you get the Perceptive End early, also if you input Sean in "who killed Mira", Eric will say "I knew it was you" and shoot him). Go back and reread the dialogue for Reality, Zero wasn't teaching Sean his name, just that he was modeled after a boy with the same name as him.
>have childhood friend
>lose any contact with her for 9 years
>meet again in a 9 hour long death game
>turns out it was all her idea and she put your live in danger
>I MUST FIND AKANE AND PROPOSE TO HER
What kind of fucking shit is this?
>>344885849Also who was the killer in the white robes? Was it Mira?
>>344886219Yes, you can tell from the black nail polish. I noticed right away and thought I spoiled a reveal.
>>344884974
>I wish I had pic related but having "Release current ZTD to the public" or "Never Release ZE3 Ever Forever" with "TIME TO DECIDE"
WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THAT BUTTON WAS PRESSED.
>>344886203
>really into robots
>soso on shota
>fucking Sean
WELP TIME TO BUST OUT THE TABLET
>>344886107
>don't remember much about her in the first place
>reunite with her for like a day
OMG I LOVE HER SO MUCH I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT HER
>>344886384
Cops are evil and racist and owning a gun gives them more of a reason to shoot/kill you
>>344886712
How can you not when she starts telling you how she might get wet in a secluded elevator knowing exacting what you are thinking!
>>344886781
Shit I accidentally /pol/'dTIME TO DECIDE: SHOOT THE SUSPECT OR RISK HIM KILL YOU
>>344886821
But Junpei knew that was all fake, right? Even Carlos could tell Akane was full of shit and he's a dumbass.
Before ZTD was announced, Uchikoshi said a 3rd Zero Escape would include Junpei and Dio, but Dio wasn't in ZTD. I was almost certain that Eric was Dio, even their voice actors sounded similar.
How do you think Uchikoshi will handle the two screens in 999 for PC?
Also, will he update the Cards with Faces mistake (how both screens had the same faces).
>>344887150
That's why Junpei was in edgy mode the entire time this game.
Not gonna lie, the way Junpei convinces Carlos to kill Q-Teamand delta lmaosucked me into the game was great. I wish they had more moments like that.
Oh no, Junpei's in trouble!
>>344881862
>Tenmyouji's characterization doesn't revolve around Quark
Every single choice he makes during the AB game is based on Quark
>>344887157
So much disappointment. ;_;
>>344887414
>Junpei was pushing Carlos to kill off a blind, deaf, crippled old man
is their a real life porn star that looks like carlos?
i need it for scientific reasons
>>344887414
>edgy mode
>carries a wedding ring with him all the time
Worse than your average DR character.
>>344887157
Uchi will say that Dio was actually Delta's clone because fuck Left.
>>344887465go on...
>>344887703
>Tfw look like Carlos with rounder features
So close yet miles away. I like his hair, was considering a similar style
>>344887703
hands off, he is mine
>>344888072
I'm going tokillCarlos!
Junpei being edgy is character development.
Akane however, was serious character regression.
>>344888072
there's carloses, anon. enough for both of us to share.
>>344888169
I unironically love when Carlos shifts into katana axe mode
I really hate Q team and I'm out of D and C team stuff, do I have to keep playing? I hear it all goes to shit but I had such a good time so far.
>>344888185
So much for MILLIONS OF YEARS OF PENT UP ANGST GONE EMOTIONLESS RUSE CRUISE
>>344888379
>I didn't kill Akane!
Fucking liar.
I don't like the art style.
Or the cutscene direction.
Or the voice acting.
The story was pretty messed up, too.
Decent puzzles, though.
>>344886219
She has Mira's hands, Mira's build, Mira's shoes, and if you're playing at a decent resolution you can clearly see Mira's face.
>>344888434
There are a few good plot twists, but the ending is totally fucked.
>>344888471
>Akane is like a person who has lived a million years
>can see multiple timelines at once, like a person looking at an anthill and take the actions that lead to the best future for her and Junpei
>ZTD somehow still happens
That just ain't right.
>>344888293
There's two of you and only two Carloses. Now I'm being left out of this loop. ;_;
>>344887703
Sadly I don't think there's one. He's too perfect.
Anyone have an explanation for why Akane and Junpei can shift despite it seemingly being a plot point in vlr that they couldn't?
>>344888725
>>>/fanfiction/
Akane only recieves fragmented information, and couldn't shift until ZTD.
>>344888293
No, I'm building my harem with all Carloses
>>344888806
Presence of other shifters
Or
Uchi got raped by the budget
>>344881351
All 3 games' premises are 100% based on bootstrap paradoxes.
>>344888806
Carloss's a really strong esper and memesonance helped them shift.
>>344889332
>>344889204
I wish I had a friend like Carlos...
>>344889291
What's the bootstrap paradox in 999 then?
>>344889563
How did the original Akane live to the future to set up the game that would save her in the past?
I hope Delta gave Sean a cute face later.
>>344889263
>>344889332
That just makes the need for VLR for Akane less sensible. Delta and Phi were the only ones that actually needed it to happen then.
>>344889668
I believe they explained this with muh morphogenic fields connect to people though time, so she was always connected with junpei and she never died.
>>344889992
But the fact is the original Akane would have no future to connect to, morphogenetic fields are just the tool to connect. It's a bootstrap paradox, but one with the morphogenetic field as a reason for information to time travel. There can be no original Akane in this set up.
>>344883140
The more I think about it the more it makes me sad and angry. Just the whole OCs are keeping my spirit up from utterly disappointment
>>344885849
ThisZero was there the whole timetwist makes less sense the more I think about it.How did the Q team convey the plan to Q if he was blind and deaf? If they didn't, then that would mean they'd be gambling that he'd unknowingly follow the plan. Why didn't the conversation afterwards reflect this? Who was taking care of him at D com? Diana? If so, why didn't she inquire about him in the ending where Sigma gets his arms blown off and Q team dies?
>>344887496
>cutting off the rest of the sentence
Nice. But he actually has some great lines, and
even if you reduce them down to satellite characters, root beer float story>>>rabbit story.
>>344888585
>>344886219Yes, she also used the scalpel she stabbed Eric and Sean with. And she´s the only one who could have roamed around freely at that point in time according to Delta/Zero.
>>344889953
VLR Akane didn't shift. Young Sigma wasn't a shifter, so future Sigma and Phi had to jump back in order to create a bigger memesonance within the test site.
>>344888434
>hating q team
>>344885421
>We don't even know ifCarlos shot Delta.
I actually liked the ambiguity of that scene. I would have been bummed had I had to play one more decision game for that scene. I mean, having them make their own decisions instead of the player/delta make them is pretty nice.
everyone keeps talking about how hot carlos is but can we talk about this guy's 12 inches
>>344888434
But little kid is great
>>344891012
>12
>>344890927
Surprise, Delta is (?)
You, the player, are the MIND HACCING
>>344888434
Well they pull way too many weird plot devices toward the end so that´s easily the weakest part. However doing Q team will unlock certain C and D scenes and especially the Sigma/Diana and Junpei/Akane as well as the Carlos solo scenes later on are extremely good.
>>344890512
I have a hard time being THAT mad because there are a lot of obvious signs the game was super strained for time and budget, and I got enough joy and horror out of it that I don't regret playing but god damn so much missed potential
With the cast they had plus Kyle plus all the anticipation from VLR I expected to be fucking blown away but honestly I was more stunned by the twists in Ever17 and VLR and I had half those games spoiled for me beforehand. Either they were foreshadowed so much it was impossible not to know (Phi is their daughter) or they didn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense (Delta has been there the whole time and deliberately blows his own head off/gives himself an acid bath because COMPLEX MOTIVES).
I think it all comes down to VLR fucking up and promising what it couldn't deliver, honestly. 999 kept the scope appropriately small (even if it went full retard with morphogenetic field at the end), VLR blew it up to crazy proportions and ZTD had to shrink again.
>>344891038
12 inches because that' s a joke he tells Phi in VLR
>>344889802
This still bothers me, why couldn't Delta build him a goddamn head? He didn't seem to have any trouble building a body and it's not like anyone would have recognized him anyway, there was no real reason for it.
>>344891012
Eh, my double Ds are more impressive.
>>344891183except Uchi himself CONFIRMED Sigma's packing18inches
Is this the biggest disappointment of the year?
>>344891012
>If you're a C cup, then I'm 12 inches!
>18 inch, foldable dick
Anon, I'm not into men with meme dicks.B)
>>344891321
>you sexually harassed your daughter
>there is a world line where old sigma fucks Phi
>there is a world line where sigma and phi escape and have incestuous kids
>>344890646
You misunderstood me. I was assuming Carlos was the one making the shifts happen for them, so they wouldn't need the extra help from Phi and Sigma. Even with the memesonance, the shifts were happening if Phi or Sigma were dead.
>>344891327Guess Sigma and Diana had to use the input pod because otherwise the player would have been deafened by Diana´s moans.
What does it taste like?
>>344891582
grape drank
>>344891582
I dunno, can i have that bottle for a second?
>>344891129
Alright, I'll power through it then.
>>344890865
>>344891023
Yes, all of them. They're so shit. I hate children so that bullshitter doesn't help. Eric is painfully cringe and Chest Beefers is a bitch. Great legs and tits though.
>>344891582
lean B)
>>344891012
I think people got all their Sigmalust out between VLR and Carlos's reveal. ZTD Sigma is the cream of the hot crop if you ask me tho
>>344891582
Kind of salty, a lil sweet.
>>344891253
>>344891023
>>344890865
Q-team is the best because of Sean no matter how shit Mira and Erica were.
>>344891759
Does Sigma ever smile aside from D End 2?
>>344891868
So Sean will forever be aheadless robot? Kinda sucks compared to his virtual reality end.
>>344858015
>>344859746
We need more material born from people playing around with the character models.
The potential is limitless.
>>344892194
why doesn't sigma just build sean a head
>>344892204
Anyone else notice how he looks EXACTLY like an Xcom thinman? Did they do that because there´sactual aliens mentioned?
Reminder that in this current year, most of the cast will only be around 10 years old and thus not for sexual.
>>344891253
Oh I shouldn't have read this. Oh well, I've stopped caring about the game kinda outside of D and C. Even the overarching plot I don't give much of a shit about.
>>344892480
>coming into a ZE thread and not expecting to be spoiled
>>344892362
Maybe it'd generate enough interest in the game to keep these threads afloat?
...Nevermind, that's wistful thinking.
If your future children played the ZE trilogy and ranted to you about ZTD's ending, what would you say to them?
>>344892725
I love Sigmas facepalm
>>344891750
I usually find kid characters annoying, that's why I was pleasantly surprised that all of his emotional moments resonated with me when the rest of the game left me feeling numb and uncaring. I think the amnesia was explored much better than past games too, his reasoning for staying behind in one of the endings makes a lot of sense and the concept of the game and the team he's with being all he knows and therefore all he has reason to care about was interesting to me. Eric is big laughs whenever he gets his hands on a weapon but I can see why people wouldn't like him I guess. I got nothing for Mira though, she's just okay.
>>344892838
The whole scene with Sean getting better after surgery made me teary eyed since I went through the same as a kid.
>>344892725
I though it was hilarious howthey had no remorse when switching with their other timeline selves before the end but then it´s all "WE CANT DO THAT ITS UNETHICAL".
>>344892194
Sigma or Delta made a human head for him after the events of the game, probably.
>>344892738
Probably stay quiet or hope that sort of continuation story will be released that fixes at least a quarter of the fucked up things in ZTD.
...I doubt that ZE4 will ever occur, but if Uchi does have any passion left in him for the ZE universe then maybe it'd happen?
>>344893419
We were lucky enough that he had even something like a budget for ZTD
>>344883140
This is what I thought would happen going in. Really thought there would be cool gameplay elements about trying to get characters to remember things from the last time they were awake by writing on the walls or something, or Zero fooling you into thinking you've woken already when you hadn't, etc. I think everyone else will agree, but how short and unimpactful the true ending was bothered me. I know writing a conclusion, especially to a trilogy, can be tough, but it just felt so nothing
>>344891495
Uh, you are right. ZTD is a huge mess desu.
>>344892480
Sorry guy, the game's been out long enough that I forget to use black bars most of the time and I figure people still playing aren't crazy enough to read anything that isn't a direct response to them (although reading the threads at all before you finish is pretty crazy if you ask me).
>>344866316
I thought that the fragment system was pointless. What was the purpose of deceiving the player about where they were in the timelines? It just confuses readers and diminishes the emotional engagement: And there's no blick winkel here to be summoned.
>>344893618
I double-checked what I wrote and I fucked up--I meant to say that if Uchi had any passion in him left for the universe, maybe he'd bother to write a story in order to wrap up some loose threads. I didn't mean to suggest that he'd make ZE4.
>>344864310
>>344864176
Plebians.
>>344893061
akane nuked the d-team in the timeline where the shifting adventure started even though she went to the trouble of giving them a poison antidote just prior
>>344884974
>Would you rather ZTD not have been made at all?
The ZTD that we got? Yes. But somewhere there is a possible ZTD that wasn't a pointless waste of potential.
>>344887465
ok i need more of this
>>344890621
seriously ZE should be 18+ eroge. They could have mad orgies in one timeline then shift backwards to do it again and again and again.
>>344894138
>akane nuked the d-team in the timeline where the shifting adventure
That was really odd and out of place to say the least.
>>344889802
HIS FACE IS PLENTY CUTE LIKE THAT
YOU'LL NOT RUIN MY ROBOSHOTA
>>344893061
they also killed 8 billion to save 6, so really, what's one more each
>>344894908
>not a single person has been killed in this history
>>344892674
>>344893771
Oh no you guys are completely fine, nothing wrong with talking freely at this point. I just stayed away for so long to avoid spoilers, but I burned out so quick that I've been coming by every now and then. I want to be in the discussions while they're still around yet I kinda don't feel like finishing the game. It's my own choice and a dumb one but eh. I know how to skim most things. It's just a shame so many people seem down on the game.
Soundtrack and Carlos were at least some stellar new additions. And D team is maximum comfy as a VLR fanboy, I just love them so damn much.
I'll finish this assignment and then fire up the game, I gotta finish it this week.
>>344895086
That entire ending scene could have been delta dragging his old shriveled balls all over the casts face and not much would change.
>>344894637Sigma kinda did that with the whole banging Diana during one timeline and during another.
Also, are Akane and Junpei gonna get married for real now? He didn´t give her the ring yet in the true end.
>>344887465
>ywn ve stuck in a room with carlos sigma and too seek the way out you have tohave a hard fucking threesome while sigma fucks the ever living shit out of you with his thick 12 inch 22 year old cock while you suck out Carlos' all american semen while you smell his musky fireman body as sigma strong arms choke you
Someone should go through the timeline of ZTD very carefully and figure out just how many times people killed their alternate timeline selves by SHIFTing.
I'm really curious.
>>344895164
>And D team is maximum comfy as a VLR fanboy
It's still shit
Sigma acts like an idiot when he's 67 years old and should really be a time master
Phi is just forced down your throat and does nothing of note except mention "jumping" once or twice, she has seriously zero point
Diana is a worse Luna
>>344895251
>are Akane and Junpei gonna get married for real now?
You need to go back and check your files again. You get a bunch after the true ending
>>344895281
>>344888005
>>344894346
I am sorry, I thought I had posted the second pic already, here
https://kelarujart.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/carsigpei2b.png
>>344895446
a bunch is really an optimistic view
>>344895504
That's gay yo.
>>344892452
Carlos is 18 I think, but he is never for sexual anyway
>>344893618
>>344893967
Why doesn't Uchi write up a novella or something wrapping up the series? Something like Grimoire Nier where it's basically a lorebook.
Hell, making a "Zero Escape Encyclopedia" would generally be better than relying on a fourth game or a simple Q&A for any answers, it could have interviews as well as art, etc
>>344895164I can't believe my awful meme drawing is still going around...
I'm not either of those guys, but I agree and I have to say that getting spoiled about the game isn't that bad. It isn't like there's really any amazing twists that can be spoiled.
>>344891582
I just realized that this is probably the virus who make blood erupting from your body
>>344895504
>not 18 inches
pretty shit desu
>>344895358
Luna was always a shitty character.
>Oh I'm a robot that feels feely feels that has been done hundred of times already.
I don't understand how people eat that shit up.
>>344895969
I just realized you're an idiot
You heard me, shoot me.
Ahaa!
Don't worry... I won't die.
>>344895896
You know, I used to say Carlos isn't for lewd but now that I've actually finished the game I'm sure that he is and he's just too pure to realize it.
WHAT is your problem?
There's no point in LIVING... once you LOSE the one you care about... the MOST
>>344896002
The artist did do an accurate 18 inch cock pic and it's beautifully stupid.
>>344896021
pleb. She is great because she is the must human character besides being a robot. And has the best theme song
Heh, sorry, but I am DONE with playing the action hero.
But why?
Because I... grew up.
If just one more person dies... one more... just one more.
GUAAAAAAAAAAAGHGH
>>344896386
I loved his voice actor and his lines so much. Literally never heard him before so I think that helped a lot. Just sounded like a JUSTICE firefighter. Who is also a dirty siscon.>>344895281
why live
Oh, this... this is it!
And his last words were exaaactly the same as my FIRST'S!
>>344896696
>Q
>Not Sean
DAMN BRAT
MIRA, WHERE IS SHE?!
Eric, calm down...!
Mira... Mira is my angel!
>>344896561link?
You're really nice...
People tell me it's a fault of mine.
Please... kill ME
>>344896496
At first i was kinda freaked out when Akanedonned that chainsaw and bludgeoned Carlos to death in that other timeline, but then i remembered she killed 3 ppl canonically before.
>>344857762
Guys, is there a way to play virtue last reward on pc? Is citra good enough to emulate it smoothly?
I wish I could forget everything about the series just to play 999 again.
I'm doing it to protect you two!
Wait, wait Sigma!
Wait, don't!
BUT if WE don't act, WE'RE the ones who DIE!
I want the two of you... to keep on living.
PHI!
... I love you
Fate of the world rests in your decision.
What will you decide?
>>344897220
>SHE FUCKING KNEW
>>344896812
I was suprised reviewers didn't like Mira's dub voice, it was one of my favorites, and certainly the best on Q team. She did a good deadpan without reading every line exactly the same.
In terms of dub, Sigma > Diana > Mira > Phi > Carlos > Junpei > Akane > Eric = Q (both had good acting when distressed but sounded like ass the rest of the time
>>344897334
OH MY GOD THE TRAILER WAS A HINT
>>344897220
>filename
always kind of bothers me becausewasn't junpei dead for about the same amount of time?
>>344897051
Only if your Pc is BEAST, also sound is probably gonna be choppy.
>>344858015
Is that Molyneux?
>>344897441
Pay Zero dollars for this game?
>>344897470
Junpei dies in the D team execution timeline, but SHIFTs all over the place, even to timelines where he's been killed, so he gets a lot more screen time. Phi dies and stays dead and never does anything even when she's alive.
>>344897656
Was it actually explained what happened to Phi in that timeline when she just vanished?
>>344897871Phi is only ever executed or incinerated. If you mean when D team wakes up to the announcement that she's dead, then looks all over for her, that takes place after Diana chooses not to shoot. So Phi's been toasted, they just obviously don't remember that.
>>344896932
http://67.media.tumblr.com/6d796f2ef24def22d70a3e21bee8b05f/tumblr_oa1z4r2Tx01te5p32o1_1280.png
>>344897871
If you're talking about the transporter room, she got roasted.
>>344897871
She burned to death in the incinerator, anon.
Why in the absolute fuck did Uchi intentionally make an ending that he knew would disappoint people and he himself knew was a bad ending to the series.
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with him this mother fucker went into developing ZTD with a shoestring budget and he knew it wouldn't be good what the fuck you fucking gook I will never trust an asian again.
>>344898190
>>344898183
>>344898150
B-but who would do such a thing to my sweetheart daughter?
>>344898158
ohhh my...
So we still don't know fuck all about Phi.
>>344898782
We know that she's the best girl.
>>344897871
>>344898150
What happened to Phido in the timeline in which Diana commits suicide after killing Sigma?
So no one played this with the JP dub? The seiyuu were great.
what was the meaning behind the Lion eating the Sun stuff that was all over VLR? I haven't played the game in years so I don't remember
>>344896445
god that whole scene man
arrogant douchebag sexually alpha male carlos makes my dick diamonds
>>344898956
Well no shit, that was an allstar team. I played with it because some of the english voice acting wasn´t my cup of tea. I might replay in english though.
>>344898956
I played it mostly JP, save for Team D.
Even then, I switched off every now and again for all teams, just for the fun of it.
>>344898956
They were.
Only thing I regret by playing with Japanese voices was not hearing Mr. Douglas' voice. Sigma, Diana, Phi, Carlos and Mira had decent English actors.
>Zero Time Dilemma is like the McDonald's french fry
>it's cheap and slapped together with poor ingredients but it's so warm and perfect when you have it fresh, you'll burn through it quickly
>but if you leave it overnight it's disgusting and awful, and becomes worse over time
>>344895164
Loving VLR so much is what made D team so disappointing for me, the banter just isn't as good and the characters I once loved no longer seem likable. There were only 2 characters I even liked in this game and they were both new.
>>344899215
Thw perfect analogy.
>>344899246
Akane's character regression pissed me off.
And then the Back to the Future Shifting analogy created and unneeded layer of simply unfair drama
>>344899664
Yeah, also Junpei switched between ruthless psycho, manchild and caring boyfriend as if he had multiple personality disorder. And i really liked Jumpy in 999 and VLR.
>>344897871
She got Akane'd in the incinerator room
>>344897051
just buy a vita tv. I got mine for <$50 with everything included
>>344900104
Maybe old Junpei was sending Young Junpei morphogeneitc signals how blue his balls would be if he doesn't snag Akane right the fuck now?
So what was the point of the extra letters in the anagram?
>>344900418
>D L T E A
gee I wonder
>>344900418
LATED
>>344896696
That's kind of a weird line to go with, makes him sound like a psychopath when he was the only sane one on the team.
>>344898956
I did, everything I've heard from the dub sounds really bad, but getting to hear Ishida is an obvious choice regardless.
>>344898782
We know that Diana is her mom and also she's her own mom and also she's kind of a violent bitch
that's about it
>>344900418
LE DAT
So I haven't beaten the game, but I recently got the whole zero twist.
I've been reading the thread and have yet to see even one spoiler that I haven't encountered yet.
So my question is this... does ANYTHING even remotely surprising happen in the final ending? Just a yes or no would suffice.By the way, shit sucks. I'm fairly devastated.
>>344900785
The ending is pretty complex
>>344900785
just finish the game, dumbass
>>344900785
The zero twist shocked me more than any of the other games combined although I found it early so that might be part of it, but I can't imagine how you figured it out without having it spoiled for you which would obviously neuter the impact.
>>344898956
I did. I liked Akane. I must have heard 'm-matte kudasai!' 100 times from all 9 voice actors, lol
i don't know the first fucking thing about moonspeak, either
>>344900785
>does ANYTHING even remotely surprising happen in the final ending?
If you know what you're looking for, no.___Q___is telegraphed hard, and it's not a leap to realizethat's what Zero and Brother will end up being, and youonly really get introduced to one new name throughout the course of the game
>>344884060
He needed to create timelines where two teams died instead of one. Mostly for Carlos.
>>344901063
i didn't figure it out, i just passed that point
how many people here learned Q's name was Sean, went immediately back to that section, entered 'Sean', got an error, and thought 'Wait, how did they fuck that up?'
I kinda wish they had put in 'Sean is not Q's real name' instead of 'Error'. Then my mind would have been blown and some foreshadowing of the big twist would have been in place rather than a bigger asspull than some of the shit you see on ALS Scan or FTV Girls
>>344900785
The ending is pretending complex.
>>344864802
>There won't be a ze4
t b h I liked the game even with the apparent flaws but this single fact, that this is the end, really puts me down.
>>344901326
You can put Sean into the who killed Mira decision and get a result
>>344901326
>Sean is not Q's real name' instead of 'Error'
No it should've just said you can't commit suicide like when you type in me
>>344901326
There's a lot of small details leading to the twist, anon. The issue is that the twist itself doesn't amount to enough because they ran out of money.
>>344902831
You do get a message like that, though. iirc you have to type in myself.
>>344902964
>like when you type in me
That's what he said
>>344902831
>>344902964
nvm, I read your post incorrectly. fucking allergy pills
>>344898878
With C-Team either blown up from the PENALTY or Swiss cheese'd in the Rec Room, Phi will simply wake up to 8 X-Passes revealed.
>>344884974
We need to build a time machine and make sure we get the ZE3 we want.
why do people hate clover? she was pretty based in 999. (although i hated her redesign in VLR, character was weaker but still okay though.)
>>344900328
Guess that explains Jumpy being super-jealous at Carlos and having the ring always at hand just in case.
Also why didn´t Junpei give her the ring in other endings when they were in grave danger and he might not have a chance to confess?
>>344903560
No she wasn't.
>>344895969FBR doesn't exist.
>>344903641
>why didn´t Junpei give her the ring in other endings
forced emotional impact
>>344898158
Now, fold it!
>>344903785
I guess that also explains Sigma being a dead fish around Diana because they wanted to keep all the romance for that one D(icking) ending.
>>344903560
Remember Axe ending? She killed FOUR innocent people that had nothing to do with the death of his brother, who wasn't evil dead. She was cruel because she didn't even finish Jumpei off, she left him there to die a slow and painful death.
In VLR? She only cares for Alice, dress like a slut and betrays the other players in many occasions, even going as far as leave them all to die of starvation by leaving through the gate as soon as she gets 9 BP.
>>344898956
I did for repeat playthroughs.
I also like to imagine that Akane and Junpei were trying to discuss their lives in Japanese but it turns out Carlos can understand a word they say so there was no point in hiding it.
>>344904020
>even going as far as leave them all to die of starvation by leaving through the gate as soon as she gets 9 BP.
wow sounds like the entire cast of VLR.
>>344895969
Hey, >>344896025 here. I don't know why I insulted you like that but it wasn't me, I swear.
>>344904202
please don't pretend to be me
he's fucking dumb because he doesn't understand where axelavir even came from or why a virus actually canceling an unrelated virus is the stupidest shit ever conceived
also the anagram
So how did Clover and Alice go back to the past?
>>344904020
i never got the axe ending holy shit i need to see this.
But as for the VLR stuff she does she's justified in only caring about alice and she didn't even want to leave everyone, alice pushed her through the door at the last second.
>>344871239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73O2NUM88mQ
How did Sigma get so huge?
Is it even possible to get Sigma levels of huge?
>>344904020
Akane killed more people and faggots here still worship her
>>344904704
B-but she killed bad people!
>>344904632
catboxes, son
>>344904420
It's complex
>>344904704
They were fine with a confession but Ace decided to kill the Cradle staff. Akane even faints if the 9th man dies.
>>344904020
But Akane also killed 3 guys in this timeline and got up to 7 other ppl killed in other timelines in 999. And then she supports Sigma in VLR to get even more ppl killed in a lot of timelines.
999 was still the best, it always had that tense dread atmosphere and when ever there was death and the music played, I was always shitting my pants but VLR and ZTD didn't have that same feeling, it was more like oh that happened, time to jump!
>>344904823
>made the reactor explode in ZTD because "lol let's jump" killing D-Team
>caused Carlos death in one timeline
>left Sigma and Diana in the bunker leaving them to die and thus killing them (can even add baby Phi and Delta to the victims)
and I am sure I am forgetting other people
>b-but muh childhood friend trope! Akane and Junpei can do no wrong!
>>344904823
She's responsible for every murder in alternate timelines in 999. She locked innocent people in a supposed death game with a murderer and caused Clover to go psycho(I think she should get some slack, she was under a lot of psychological stress and paranoid).
>>344905334
Also the two cradle members that she blows up and that captain guy die in the "true" timeline.
>>344905080
Totally, the more dated visuals also surprisingly worked well with the setting, the boat was old school as fuck and ps1-esque graphics capture that feeling of a old ship.
Also the plot twist with Hongou was handled so fucking well like holy shit I felt so BETRAYED.
>>344905547
Well they weren't exactly innocent.
>>344905132
>left Sigma and Diana in the bunker leaving them to die and thus killing them (can even add baby Phi and Delta to the victims)
I still don't get this one, why the fuck did she do that knowing that there were two people alive? Status screen even says that she was alive the whole time. Why did she abandon them?
So Delta originally did the virus to save 2 billion and that ended up making Akane and the rest of the people do the events in VLR but then did Delta also know that in ZTD they would come back and doing so will possibly change the future to prevent the terrorist attack? Or was that something he planned out during ZTD because he can't shift.
>>344864176
Switch Phi and Ace and I can get behind this.
>>344905845
It's becauseCOMPLEX
MOTIVES
So was this the best Zero Escapefor meme mining?
>>344905765
She still kills them in cold blood then pretends to be shocked when Junpei (who has never killed anyone in any timeline) brings up the possibility of voting against another team.
>>344906549
easily
>>344891492
Wait, I don't remember this...
>>344858015
this is better animated than the game
>>344898956
Maybe the voice actors were good, but it sounded like they all recorded their lines in a broom closet so that erased any chance of me picking it over the English dub.
>>344885835I got it so early that I thought Diana and Phi were sisters and that the image of Sigma and Diana holding babies was some weird puzzle that involved baby dolls
>>344906697
>Junpei
>never killed anyone
>>344905774
I HAVE NO FURTHER USE FOR THIS TIMELINE
>>344907297
When does he kill anyone?
>>344907419
AB game
>>344898956
I'm fucking baffled that they were able to afford a cast like that
>>344907173
At least it sounded somewhat natural, unlike the atrocious english dub.
Even Phi's english voice didn't sound as good and I loved her voice in VLR.
>>344907595
>blew all the money on crappy voice acting
Uchi is a retard
>>344907419
He killed my man Carlos.
>>344907523
I meant in 999.
Oh wow, did they add that text with Paint.net all by themselves?
Just beat it.
Junpei and Akane's characters were so bizarre. It started out as Junpei being all like 'Fuck the others, let's kill 'em, nihilism is the way to go' and Akane countering with 'Junpei-kun no I love you don't say these things'
Then later Akane is all 'let's jump all over the shop and set off nukes and kill our counterparts by shifting them into death situations all the time' and Junpei is like 'Isn't that wrong? Oh wait I forgot you were like this'
Then Akane shanks Junpei with the chemicals... why? Christ, it was so bad
So inconsistent it defied belief
>>344873587
>?
Yeah, I felt, like the story was finally picking up tempo whenEric shot the Wall revealing everybody was in the same place the whole timebut then it abruptly ended a few fragments later, like there was a whole third of the game with an epic finale missing.
>>344907879
>Then Akane shanks Junpei with the chemicals... why?
The fuck do you mean "why?" And what's your point?
>>344907821
was willing to leave Santa behind to go with MUH KANNY
>>344907807
>>344907523
That was only because he saw Carlos pick betray in another timeline.... i think. They never really explained why he picked betray there but ally afterwards.
>>344907987
My point is that the characters were a disaster.
As for the 'why?'... in the apocalypse timeline why the fuck does Akane abandon Junpei after he has essentially proposed to her? Everything she has said up to that point leads you to the conclusion that this is the very last thing she'd do.
>>344907987
>The fuck do you mean "why?"
This is typically a word used to express a lack of understanding
>>344908120
what are you talking about she's following the timeline there, stupei isn't supposed to be with her.
>>344908113
If you choose Ally first, he picks Betray because he wants to leave with Akane and killing people is going to achieve that faster.
>>344908206
You mean the timeline she has no knowledge of because fragmented information?
>>344894112
Alice not last so automatically shit
>>344908206
How the fuck does she know what is or isn't meant to happen in that timeline, she has never visited the future. She shouldn't know about VLR or the AB game, right?
It has been years since I played VLR so perhaps I've forgotten something. But that made no sense to me.
>>344908120
I think she does it to protect him but yeah it´s pretty damn weird after Junpei sacrifices himself in other timelines for her and they totally could have become mastermind waifu and husbandu.
>>344908127I should slap your shit but first we need a Zero Escape version of this.
>>344908113
I'm pretty sure that was the same timeline Carlos voted for Q team instead of D team. If so, it makes perfect sense Junpei wouldn't trust Carlos seeing as how if Carlos betrayed he could get out.
>>344908113
No, he explains it with the "Assume everyone is a thief" speech
Carlos is the one that changes idea because he saw Junpei take betray
he still ends up killing 3 people
>>344908358
how new
>>344908305
>>344908347
Didn't she shift in the ending of VLR? From 2074 to 2028.
>>344908378
But he votes Ally when Carlos picks Betray. And that´s the same timeline. And he even said before he wasn´t able to use the morphogenetic field for a long time.
>>344901063
Here was my train of thought for Zero. From the moment I could force characters to press buttons against their will I thought:
"Ok since Blick Winkel isn't a part of any team that means they're probably the true Zero and the Zero from the first scene was a double. He's trying to do the Ever17 thing of creating a stable time loop to justify his existence before he starts fucking around"
The main idea being that I decided Zero was the PoV character and had mind control abilities.
Once Delta was born I just changed Blick to him because he was the only other named character in the plot. Went to the stand-off to test my theory and sure enough Sean shot towards the camera when Delta was entered.
>>344908113
Oh, you picked betray first? If you pick ally first, he tells you that he did it to protect Akane and "Phi" (For some reason) and that he thought Charlos was going to choose betray because of her imouto, but he never mentions Carlos betraing him in another timeline.
>>344908350
>protect him
>R6 is gonna kill 6 billion
>reactor is gonna blow
Dumb Akane poster
>>344908523
If she did (I don't remember) you'd think that ZTD would fucking mention it at least once.
>>344885835
No more so than using your brain as soon as we saw the famitsu scans
>>344908523
No, she did not.
If Delta wanted to make sure he was born, why didn't he just explain to Sigma and Dianna and force them to fug?
Problem solved.
>>344908651
What? I said i´m as confused by her choice as anyone else. Explain to me why she did it please?
>>344908554
No i picked Ally first and i expected Junpei to betray me. What confused me was Junpei picking Ally when i picked betray.
>>344908956
Wouldn´t even be hard to do as they were attracted to each other in the first place. Just go up to them like "Yo, can you two get a room? That´d be real neato." No need for the whole life and death game.
>>344908956
Epigenetics are a bit more COMPLEX than that.
>>344908961
It sure as well wasn't to protect him considering she later uses him and his Quarku to power up Sigma's and Phi's jump.
>>344908961
>rurururu~
goddamnit K was so cute, him not being in ZTD is bullshit
Just finished ZTD today. I have one question.
How did Junpei go from one of the most likable protagonists of all time too one of the worst people in the franchise? What were they thinking?
>>344909589
>most likable protagonists of all time
Amazon finally shipped my package.
I should have just pirated it instead of actually believing amazon. What was I thinking.
>>344909589
If it was an entirely new character, I would've liked him. Instead they had to use Junpei for whatever reason.
>>344909589
They explain it with him working undercover and seeing a lot of fucked up shit. But that still doesn´t explain his character bouncing from one extreme to the other every two sentences.
>>344909589
You should have read the interview uchi did right before the release (i don't know if anyone translated it though)
In that said that he basically had to forcibly come up with an excuse to make jumpy dark and broody because carlos was already the righteous hero of the group, and there couldn't be two heroes in one groupwhy didn't he just put junpei in another group or make a new character? fucking retard
>>344907858
whyyyy
>>344910001
>guys we should advertise it on Steam
>but we still have no money
>ah fuck, just give it to the intern and beg Gabe to run it
>>344910186
>we should advertise a game that requires knowledge of two prior games and spoils the shit out of them both before porting said games to Steam
>>344910186
>"Intern-kun, ganbare!"
Someone post the VAs
>>344909968
But why even include Junpei? He didn't need to be there. Akane, Sigma, and Phi all did for plot reasons, technically Diana too, but Junpei could've been removed and it would've all still basically made sense. Better yet, why not just have Carlos not be as righteous as he appears. Make him selfish and willing to sacrifice other people for his sister. Adds depth to his character.
Deep and complex motives:1) Create timeline where radical 6 is released, killing 75% of the population, but a fanatic who would have killed 100% along with it because apparently a quantum computer aided by a transporter and mind hacking can't find one dude.
2) Cause his own birth and kickin' rad superpowers.
3) Grant a dead little boy's dreams by giving him a happyvirtuallife (that's sweet but I'm not sure why it had to be a decision game).
4) Create a team of shifting superheroes to stop the fanatic somehow.
Am I missing anything?
>>344910575
>Akane, Sigma, and Phi all did for plot reasons
Phi was in this game?
>>344910362
Porting costs money too! ZE is fucked, Uchi is kill, Delta did 9/11.
>>344910408
>alright we greased up them Steam chains, show me what you got.
>sure thing boss, check it
>YAMATE
Anyone got a link to the spongebob video?
I lost the link
>>344910575
My guess is fanservice.
You know, if he really wanted to bring back a 999 character for C-team Santa would've worked so much better. He can still have Carlos be a shonen hero this way, without having to ruin a character from a previous game
What is the worst puzzle and why is it the heart?
>>344910575
Junpei was at the Mars test site according to VLR. I think it'd make more sense for Akane to not be a participant.
>>344910825
That's not the flower buds or rotating tile boxes
>>344895251Nope. Look at what hand the ring is on.
>>344910873
I agree
the whole "lol i didn't know what happened at the test site" in VLR is so dumb now
>>344910873
Wait, I was sure that they actually said he wasn't there
>>344910873
Was he? I don't remember, it's been so long.
>>344910892
>flower buds
I completed that in a few seconds tapping randomly before I even registered the logic behind it.
>>344910575
Remind me, why Sigma didn't remember anything that happened at the Mars Test Site again?
>>344910992
>>344911079
I know it was before he revealed who he was. Where in VLR had the recording again?
>>344911085
I got it on my first try by following my gut
>>344910873
He part of mission control, he said he never participated in the experiment, also Akane wasn't a part of the experiment either. Since the memory loss drugs only work on the last few hours you'd think he'd remember being part of the experiment with Akane for nearly a week.
>>344911206
In the Infirmary. They insert an SD card they found elsewhere that wasn't used for the puzzle and the big TV there plays the recording.
>>344911168
Young Sigma doesn't have any of Old Sigma's memories until he experiences them for himself.
>>344910575
because most 999fags only bought the game to see if Akane and Junpei got "the happy ending"
>>344904420
Probably the transporter, which brings up a shitload of questions
>>344911218
The whole connection to the VLR plot seems really like an afterthought, huh
Be honest with me, would you have liked to have Kyle and Aoi in ZTD instead of Akane and Junpei?
>>344911656
I kept expecting some twist like "Akane actually being Nonna or someone else in disguise and "Sigma" being Kyle while the actual masterminds were working behind the scenes.
>>344911792
Yes
What makes ZTD so shit?
>>344911792
1000 times better, really, even though I liked most of the C-Team parts
>>344911792
Kyle should've switched with senile Sigma.
>>344911474
>okay, Akane. How do Alice and I go back to the past?
>you will use this alien transporter, but it will only create a copy of yourselves that will go back to the past. You two will still remain here to rot forever.
>...
>>344912025
Nerfed Akane.
OoC Junpei and Akane.
Sigma being a goddamn retard.
Not enough Phi.
Q team.
>>344912173
I hope Alice knifed Akane
>>344911792
I´d much rather have Kyle and Aoi instead of Mira and Eric. Mira was really bland when she didn´tgouge hearts outand Eric was just some dumbfuck that goes full yandere.
>>344912317
>Didn't like Eric
Damned Brat!
>>344912173
Would Clover, at least, not have the ability to shift into that new body?
I mean if Akane was able to do it then surely Clover could.
>>344909589
>Junpei
>Likable
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>344912269
You forgot terrible animations that ruin the effective and interesting moments that do exist.
Why is the game so ugly?
>tfw a DS game looks 1000 times better than a 1080p PC port
>>344912430
Actually that reminds me, why did Zerostrangle Mira in one timeline but then lets her go in the true end and that other end where she and Sean escape?
>>344912025
I honestly think it's a really complex and multifaceted issue that doesn't have a simple answer. The moment-to-moment quality ranges so severely that it genuinely swings from moments of real genius to batshit retardation, and it does this on a regular basis.
>>344912451
But then the Clover that was copied would go into future Clover.Now I'm just imagining them constantly SHIFTing and fighting for control over the past's body.
>>344912859
Knowing Clover she'd go into an insane frenzy and throw herself off a cliff just so when the other Clover shifts in she dies
how can this cinematic stuff be less expensive than VLR 3d models with 4 animation total?
>>344912749
Maybe mad that she dismembered Junpei's body when she was only supposed to kill him.
>>344912658
3DS version is the best because the low framerate and resolution mask how awful the game normally looks
>>344913024
>mad
>makes it a puzzle
>>344911792
A million times over.
>>344912125
This too t b h.
>>344912025
It's not necessarily shit, it's just not as great as it really should have been, feels incomplete, and is not a good conclusion to the series. If I knew there was another one coming to wrap things up better I would not be nearly as bummed about it.
>>344912317
They were still nowhere near as bad as Akane and Junpei.
>>344913237
When life gives you lemons...
>it's the budget's fault I swear!
You can't blame the subpar writing on money.
>>344913237
>I have one more... no, five more good things to show you
>>344913510
Only Uchi fanboys blame it on the budget. Uchi dropped the ball hard with this game.
>>344913510
The writing is still solid in most parts, it just falls apart towards the end.
What if this is the wrong path and the team of shifters leads to the birth of the terrorist who now has superpowers.
>>344913510
which subpar writing? this is the best written game since 999
>>344913712
>The writing is still solid in most parts
it's shit from the very start where sigma goes HEY I'M FROM 2074 GUYS LET'S ALL STOP THE VIRUS
What was with the blood in the medical room? The lockers and shit
>>344913510
I blame time as much as budget. Rather than one writer with a strong vision making it a cohesive story it's outsourced to multiple writers and never really comes together, and with such short development time the planning is rather slipshod as well, the biggest issue stemming from the budget is the game length because it was also too short to explore things as meaningfully as it needed too. I think some of the base ideas were missteps as well, but it was multiple factors resulting in a subpar product.
>>344913786
And then no one cares about the virus for the rest of the game. It's barely aknowledged.
>>344913863
It was part of the puzzle.
The Zero twist was once again on the cover of the game
>Zero is only a translucent shadow
>The Truth is Invisible
>>344913863
Actually, yeah. Now that I think about it there was a very distinct and messy trail showing where a body was dragged. What up with that?
>>344914106
"He is stuck in time, in the past"
So what happens now after the ending? They just wait out and prepare for the religious cult guy to try to end the world?So Delta was Brother, then? It was only mentioned that one single time.Who was it that was talking at the end of VLR with "???" provided as the name?I could have sworn that I saw Snake was going to be discussed in this game for some reason.
>>344914128
Akashi is a hack and even forgot things from the game itself.
>>344914194
now you come here to be upset with everyone else who liked zero escape before ZTD
welcome to our kingdom
>>344914005
did you not remember D Team literally questioning whether they were told the whole truth about radical-6 because of all the time lines?
>>344914194
>So Delta was Brother, then? It was only mentioned that one single time.
What would repeating that statement change?
>>344914440
It's barely acknowledged considering it was a pivotal plot point of the previous game.
>>344914263
I still like it, people are giving it way too hard of a time. I'm just confused.
>>344914440
I don't think they should have said it more, necessarily, they just didn't put it in perspective. Like how does that change our understanding of what Brother did? Does it at all?
>go to the mexican standoff for team Q as the first fragment I do after the initial voting for each team
>see if killing "myself" is possible after I killed Mira and Eric since I dont know what else the 4th option could be
>"what is Q's real name?"
>oh shit it's actually going to let me kill Q?
>come back to it later>you actually can kill "Q"
that really threw me for a loop when I thought about it
>>344914440
>Kyle being super important is mentioned once
Where's Kyle?
>>344914623
They dedicate an entire ending to Zero=Brother and explain his motives and everything. Isn't that enough?
>>344914625
>people are giving it way too hard of a time
No, I refuse to accept this.
As someone who played 999 and thought it was very well made with a wonderful atmosphere and top-tier execution, leaving only a couple of holes in the story that I could forgive, I fucking refuse.
I played VLR immediately after it and felt that its atmosphere suffered, but that the plot was leading to something and that I could forgive the larger number of holes in the story.
I played Ever17 and saw how Uchikoshi had improved his shit pacing since then but had gotten more and more ambitious with the complexity of the plot and branches.
I played Remember11 and saw how he and Nakazawa put something together that only had a single hole in it, one that was easily forgiven.
I played Never7 and saw where Uchikoshi was coming from, how he had started out with barely any drive to make things past his comfort zone.
Then I played ZTD and saw him completely failing to do anything right. Nothing from the other five I had finished was present. There was no elegance, there were no compelling characters, there wasn't an impact in your choices. There wasn't anything. It was just bad.
I would rather ZTD have never been made if this was how it was going to turn out. I'd rather Uchikoshi had gone and made something entirely different that wasn't a mess.
>>344913964
Choosing to experiment with a completely different style instead of staying with the VN format of the first two games and splitting the game into fragments sure as hell didn't help either
>>344914739
Bestand only"what the fuck" of the game for me, even better because I seriously thought it was the suicide option and was expecting Sean to drop a plot bomb before arrowing his own throat or some shit. Instead he turned to the camera and killed me, and they all seemed to have known I was there the whole time.
>>344914739
>"Input Q's name"
>Oh shit guess I'll come back here later when I find out
>Find out his name is Sean
>"error"
>You Wat
>Diana names her kid Delta
>The mexican Standoff section is called "triangle"
>My fucking face
>>344915180
>I would rather ZTD have never been made
Yeah okay, calm down. That's exactly what I mean. "I'd rather have nothing at all" is pretty lame. It's a shame that it wasn't the golden ending we all wanted, but it is what it is.
>>344915180
>I'd rather Uchikoshi had gone and made something entirely different that wasn't a mess.
Punchline:^)
>>344915449Punchline wasn't actually all that bad because it knew it was retarded and was just trying to have fun with it.
Also had cute girls.
>>344915335
I didn't even think of that...
>>344914194
??? was Blick Winkel from Ever17, don't worry about it too much, I guess they decided against including him and he never shows.
>>344915449
>that wasn't a mess
>>344915303
Fragments were an interesting idea but immediately you can see the problem with them and it's that characters don't really get to develop because they're constantly being reset back to zero.
That and of course everything has to be explained over and over again because any fragment could be your first.
>>344915448
>It's a shame that it wasn't the golden ending we all wanted, but it is what it is
All I wanted was a cohesive and somewhat satisfying ending. I knew ahead of time that it was going to be somewhat constrained by budget, but he fucked up from the very moment that he decided some of the major plot points, the worst and most unforgivable of which is the presence of a fucking teleporter out of nowhere.
He even had the opportunity to bring back the idea of human bodies jumping timelines instead of just their consciousnesses, but even that failed to happen.
It's just a mess, and as someone who expected better, I'm honestly the most disappointed I've ever been in the release of something.
>>344894112
>ZTD Junpei over 999
he was a total dick, how can anyone like him more than the funyarinpa prophet?
>>344915806
His darkness and edgyness speaks to my soul
Amazon finally came thru boys
>Weeks late
>Saved 3 cents
>Got only game, not watch
>No note saying the watch is coming later
>>344915913
well at least I wasn't the only one
>>344915913
You should probably bitch at them or Aksys, though with how disappointing the game was I don't know if the watch is worth it.
>>344915913
They've said on the twitter account that the games were shipping out before the watches. You'll still get the watch. The same happened to me.
>>344915913
Should've canceled it
>>344907858
>that feel when u don't really get to make any decisions because the game forces you to make all decisions
>>344916402
>most decisions boil down to "continue the game" and "diana kills everyone because she's a retard"
>>344913510
The world runs on money, bruh.
>>344914128
I initially thought it was suppose to lead to the reveal that FtS hijacked the Mars test site. This goes out the window when you learn Dcom was FtS to begin with.
>>344912658
999 sprites are garbage.
I got more feels from the Safe end than 95% of ZTD
>>344917105
Much better than these Walking Dead ripoff models we got
>>344917186
>durrr edgy superhuman shot to death
What a shit ending.
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>>344917105
Keep saying that, I'm sure it'll come true.
