You now remember Golden Sun.
I never played it
Thanks I was trying for the last 10 years to forget it.
>>344856291
Nigga, I've been playing Golden Sun.
>>344856291
>just sold a ton of my old DS, 3DS and Wii games
>among them Dark Dawn
I know it wasnt as good as the first 2 games but it still hurts
Only problem is that I now remember the sequel too
I dropped lost age as soon as I fucked up the golden code.
>>344856291
>implying I ever forgot it
>>344856291
I miss it, then I remember playing Dark Dawn. How I wish Lost Age was the end.
Golden Sun is some top shit. I never realized how short it is overall though until I replayed the first one recently
Played both fairly recently, actually.
One of the best RPGs made, in both story and battle system.
Funnily enough, the recent playthrough was the first time I ever got Kikuichimonji in the first game, and the first time I beat Dullahan in the second.
Both were frustrating, but worth it.
>Target a monster
>It dies before the character's turn
>Character defends instead
No you piece of shit, youre supposed to attack something else.
Going through it right now, i missed a lot of stuff. Wish there was a way to dell if i got all the Djinn
>>344863404
Play EarthBound
>>344857064
Jesus fuck that was a nightmare when emulating. I got it eventually after a few tries.
>>344856762
This.
It's a shit RPG.
>>344863404
>Islet cave
>Two Wonder birds
>They flee immediately
>>344859438
What was bad about it? I only played the first two
>>344863284
>One of the best RPGs made, in both story and battle system.
How the fuck can anyone say this? Especially when Camelot's own RPGs predating GS are vastly superior?
>>344863949
Fells extremely derivative, same shit with a newer generation (down to the Mars villain duo). Went way overboard with points of no return. Like GS1 it doesn't resolve anything story-wise, except this time there is no sequel.
My first time playing this i had no idea how the djinn system worked for maybe 1/4 or 2/4 of the game. Am i a dumbass?
>>344856291
I only played Lost Age because my friend lent it to me. How was the first?
>>344856291
It's a shame that the vast majority of good RPGs on the GBA were ports and remakes of earlier titles. I think only gen 3 and Mother 3 stand out from the bunch.
>>344863949
It keeps everything wrong with the first two despite coming out years later, it has no closure, and it's a bitch to completionists.
That's all, really.
>>344864152
Pretty much the same, Both games might as well be one. Should play the first one and then port the data to the second.
>>344863949
Aside of what others mentioned, the difficulty of both combat and puzzles was also even further reduced to the point where it felt trivial.
>>344864003
I doubt many people on /v/ played Camalot's pre-GS RPGs. I didn't, to be honest. I assume you're talking about the Shining series? I need to give those a go.
I liked GS for what it was, i.e. a nice little JRPG on my handheld, but it wasn't anything world-changing.
>>344864162
Gues there is no rush to play it then, too bad.
>>344864313
I played the one on the Saturn. GS was still v fun to me. The only people hating on the game are spewing the complaints from the SA LP
Just finished it the other day, ending was a major downer.
>we still have an adventure to go and things to do
>party goes inside a ship and credits roll
Really? At least give the fucking game some conclusion.
>>344863949
You can miss djinns, and it's permanent.
The story is filled with holes and new shit that "appeared" in between GS 2 and 3 that make no sense (a new nation who lives on a huge aircraft, and are really mean because reasons, for instance)
But above all, the end is a cliffhanger, and we will never have a sequel.
>>344864617
Play the second, if you enjoyed the first, you will be pleased. (and transfer data)
>>344859438
>tfw I never played Dark Dawn
I guess I never will. I wish Camelot did a new Mario Tennis like the GBC and GBA ones, though.
>>344864158
CIMA, Medabots, M&L, Napoleon, Rebelstar, Scurge Hive, Yggdra Union, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, the Mario sports RPGs, Demikids, Dokapon, FFTA, Lufia Runes of Lore, Lunar Legend, Robopon, Tactics Ogre KoL, Super Robot Raiden, ZoE Fist of Mars, and that's not including untranslated RPGs like Magical Vacation and Tomato Adventure.
Shit, that's not counting the hybrid series, like Battle Network, Shining Soul, Summon Night, Bomberman, Boktai, Car Battler Joe, Juka, Sigma Star Saga...
What I'm saying is the GBA had a fuckload of RPGs. Shit, it had seven localized Mega Man RPGs.
>>344864760
>tfw I just remembered the huge codes to transfer data
>>344864830
Good RPGs, I should clarify. I left out shit games like Riviera.
>>344864760
Yeah I'm planning on it, I'm just also pissed off I beat the last boss, and before you enter the ship, the game locks you from doing side stuff, I completely missed the guy who was locked in that thief village quest, the whole point of no return parts of Golden Sun soured me to be honest
>>344856291
> brother gets deployed to Afghanistan
> give him gameboy sp with both Golden Sun games and some Mario games
> bro doesn't make it back
> get box of his stuff in mail
> personal effects with gameboy and games inside
> load up golden sun
> beat both games and put it way more hours than I did
> find note to himself reminding him to thank me for games
Yeah... I remember golden sun...
>>344864879
just get a link cable and two GBAs lmao
>>344865025
But you can return to the thief village. You unlock a cave near the end of the game, which allows you to return to the early game zones.
>Trying to get all the Djinn in the first game
>Don't want to be a bitch and look it up online
Kill me
>>344864830
>that's not including untranslated RPGs like Magical Vacation
it got a fan translation
>>344864830
Half of those aren't even particularly good games. FFTA, Shining Soul, Demikids? Like, are you kidding me? And what the fuck is Advance Wars doing there? That's a TBS.
>>344865462
I meant officially, just for clarification.
>>344865383
Just do it.
Some of them are in really stupid places like the overworld.
the game was ok, not stellar. I remember getting an obscene amount of kikuichimonjis in my second playthrough (didnt get all djinnis in the first one cus blind run)
>>344856945
I was about to post the EXACT same text, dude. This is fucking unreal. I'm playing Lost Age right now - which one you playing, 1 or 2?
>>344856291
I remember playing it for like 5 minutes before being like "This is the most generic JRPG ever" then quitting.
>>344865025
He's talking about after you beat the final boss, the game doesn't allow you to leave the village with the boat. It locks you in there. All side stuff has to be done before beating saturos and menardi at the top of venus lighthouse
>>344856945
>TIME TO BEAT MY LAST BEST ON MONSTER BATTLE NI-
>DULLAHAN
>okay well that wa-
>DULLAHAN
>are you fucking serious? well at least af-
>DULLAHAN
Hello there, hope you weren't expecting an ending
>>344865717
well i think i got about 26 on my own. might as well. 143
>>344866304
Go stone some women
>>344866304
>>344866304
Why haven't you killed yourself yet in the name of the almighty?
A shame there was never a hq soundtrack released for the first two games.
I liked the OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_zLitqH1o
>>344866304
This probably sounded a lot funnier in your head.
Anyone else's Golden Sun cartridge sticker backround turn from Green to Black?
>>344863949
The first 10 or so hours treats you like an invalid. Like, ok I get having puzzles and bosses be simple enough for players new to Golden Sun. I even get having it be easy enough for people new to JRPGs. The game treats you like you're new to videogames for about that long.
It recycles the same puzzles the first two games had, just now in 3D! Which wouldn't be that much of a problem if TLA didn't spend ITS first ten hours doing the same exact shit.
Then, besides having a predictable plot, the world of Weyard isn't new to us anymore. Which means it's not as interesting as in the first game where you're learning about psychic medieval superheroes and reading minds and shit (never finished DD, but I'm 40 hours in and can't read minds unless the person is fucking dead. What kind of shit is that? Literally one of the best aspects of the first two games).
Graphics wise I always thought the first two games were charming. I don't like the N64 graphics generation that the DS and 3DS era of JRPGs have inherited from Final Fantasy III's remake. Sprites will always age better.
Pic related is the best thing about the game.
>>344866932
OST is pretty baller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEIYmaeqSN4
>>344867045
I wanna feel those paws on my dick
>>344867101
Another one
>>344867270
Another one what?
>>344867347
A N O T H E R O N E
>>344867347
>>344867045
>(never finished DD, but I'm 40 hours in and can't read minds unless the person is fucking dead.
It can be used to read minds too.
>>344867707
You loyal.
Go buy your mom a house
I'd probably fare fine today, but when I was a kid I was stuck on the final boss for weeks.
>>344865032
feels. I'm moved by this story
>>344867982
Go buy your whole family a house
>>344856291
Everyday I see my cartridge of Golden Sun. Everyday I wonder why they dropped the franchise.
>Use normal attack to deal with common enemies
>Prepare Djinn before a boss fight and keep using high power summons
Easiest JRPG I have ever played
>>344868265
Another one.
>>344867270
>>344867439
>>344867875
>>344868121
>>344868425
>>344868425
Another one what? Make sense what is wrong with you kuffar faggots
>>344868576
another one
>>344868265
I been to Afghanistan
Apparently there is a islaic tradition where all the males go out and have gay sex with each other and little boys. My translator say they do this because it's the only way to get their gay levels at 0% or something so they can be right with that prophet muhammed faggot and Allah or something
>>344868796
A N O T H E R O N E
>>344868796
Another one
How the hell they managed to fuck up the DS sequel is beyond me.
I don't even mind the new kids but the amount of points of no return ruined it for me.
>>344868952
My translator was Muslim from Egypt.
Apparently there are a large portion of Muslims that suppress their true gay emotions.
I guess that makes sense why they are so angry, because they aren't true to themselves and their whole being goes against their religion so they develop some strange mental illnesses
>>344869062
Religion is a mental illness
I never forgot Golden Sun. It's best.
>>344868362
>>344856291
>implying I could ever forget
Golden Sun was fucking rad. I really hope the series isn't dead. Dark Dawn had tons of problems but still introduced some neat stuff like giving all the Djinn a unique look.
>>344870115
What went wrong?
Golden sun series would be great if the writing wasn't so terrible and inconsistent. The world itself is interesting but the prose is garbage. It's one of the few traditional Jrpgs with decent design and it incorporates some simple puzzles and rewards exploration with dijinn.
>>344871209
Meant to say inconsise. The writing is very consistently terrible and long winded.
>>344864292
That's what it originally was but they couldn't fit everything into one cartridge, thus the split.
>>344865492
>FFTA
>Not good
Sounds like someone still hasn't come to terms with their escapism.
![tumblr_m702lwyVif1r90cnso7_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LUZXQrY.jpg "tumblr_m702lwyVif1r90cnso7_500[1].jpg")
>>344867045
Yep. Pic related is the best.
They did give more stuff in general lore, such as her species. I appreciate stuff like that.
I thought Dark Dawn was just about in the same tier as the first game, despite the major blunders it has. Both games are sequel fodder, there really is only so much you can do with that.
As we all know, The Lost Age turned out fantastic because it could build on what the previous game established and I have no doubt that a 4th game could redeem Dark Dawn as well in retrospect.
I'm also not too bothered by the absence of news just yet. Dark Dawn took long enough to be released as well, although I guess in that case it was never clear whether it was going to be made at all. Oh well, I'm a patient man and I can wait some more. I do believe it will happen, however
>>344865032
>volunteering to fight in illegal wars
>>344872497
Camelot only made Dark Dawn because people wanted it. Now we're back to square one with demand if we are ever going to finish this story.
What I want is a console GoldenSun game with the same production values that Fire Emblem is getting now. My biggest worry for that though is, do people even care about GS to want that?
>>344856291
I now remember how much fun I had doing a low level run of this using a cheat to prevent exp gain. I should do that again and finish TLA the same way this time.
Golden Sun was like my third GBA game. Loved the fuck out of it. Got stuck so many times for weeks on end, but trudged my way through it. Got stuck on the very last boss battle and never beat it. I barely remember the plot or anything that happened. There were two sibling antagonists, something about lighthouses, and me getting stuck on the obligatory midgame competition where it would restart if you didn't get far enough, I think they justified that as your precious failed attempt(s) as being a dream. I remember clearing that part tho when I was on a family vacation and we were driving around the Hoover Dam. I refuse to emulate this game because of my poor memory and remembering this game as being the bees knees.
/blogpost
>>344872628
Now I have no hard evidence but just enough to remain optimistic I guess.
In a recent Famitsu poll, GS placed 4th amongst people's "most memorable" GBA games (of course behind titans like Pokemon and stuff).
I also believe Isaac got a decent amount of votes during the Smash ballot.
So I believe there is a dedicated crowd for more Golden Sun, just enough to warrant another game or so. But maybe it's also wishful thinking
>>344864617
The first game is very blatantly just a half of the whole. You need to play both if you care about story.
The absolute real worst part of Dark Dawn isn't just that you get no closure, it's that plot gets sidetracked by a fetch quest an hour in. A fetch quest that then itself gets sidetracked by a completely different plot. It feels so loose, like they were stalling for the sequel.
>>344873420
The point is that you can have a game being part of a bigger story without having an awful cliffhanger ending, or a movie for that matter.
It's simply badly done and robs the player of a satisfactory ending to the game.
>>344873692
And I don't think I claimed anything on the contrary.
In the game's defense it was actually developed as a single title, but split into two because of technical limitations.
Also I like the games so much and have played them both, so I don't really give a shit anymore.
wew
>>344874306
they could have at least changed it enough so it doesn't feel as if the ending is "lol buy the next game, faggot"
>>344863404
The fanboys will swear this is supposed to encourage strategy, but NES RPG's didn't even have to do this. Like ganging up on a notably stronger enemy with normal attacks isn't a wise thing to do. Why waste your spells on individual mooks? Golden Sun isn't a good series, period. Interesting elements, but held back by the mediocre gameplay.
>>344856291
those character sprites actually look like vomit
>>344872628
>>344872497
They could always start with remakes for the GBA games.
>>344875039
It's supposed to render on a 240x160 screen, of course it looks like shit when it's upscaled.
>>344874971
These are the people who made SF3 into three games because they couldn't deal with cutting out the fluff.
GS is the same problem. They made "beautiful" pre-rendered sprites that ata all the memory and split the game since they refused to compromise their breath-taking graphics.
>>344877713
A lot of it looks like shit even on GBA.
The world map is the fucking worst, though. It's a 2D map tilted SO SLIGHTLY on a 3D plane that it doesn't look good. It just looks blurry and shitty.
Thread reminder that Trent-skip Saturos is the only good boss.
>>344877986
All the spells look like that too. It was a novelty back in like 2001 but you're right that it doesnt look the best.
>westernized RPG's
>>344856291
My god, what an awful filter. It looks like shit.
https://youtu.be/q5d1rrbNo3o
OUT OF THE WAY BEST TRACK COMING THROUGH
Buildup? Who needs that shit? We just go straight into the epic music!
>>344871071
you have to go through a linear path, then backtrack to the middle in the least intuitive way.
>>344873607
I will be mad forever.
>>344878914
I prefer this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7pBcKlONnA
It's not very good.
