Its Time for Good Idea Bad Idea.
Good Idea: Making a sequel to a cult classic action game for next gen consoles.
Bad Idea: Making a sequel to a cult classic action game, for the WiiU.
Great idea: Bundling the two games together
People are still salty about Bayonetta 2?
Good idea: bring all future first party games to PC
Bad idea: announce a next gen console and a slim version of your current console on the same day with all of its games becoming playable on PC
Good job Microsoft
>>344825535
theres still niggas who think pc gaming costs thousands of dollars
>>344824976
retarded idea: crying about a game being make for [not my favorite platform] rather than not at all.
Bayo 2 wouldn't exist if Nintento didn't pay for it.
Good idea: make the greatest game ever made
Bad idea: make it all cutscenes and make the ending DLC
Whatever.
Considering how terribad the PS3 version of Bayonetta 1 was, I don't see why anyone would want the same thing done to the second game.
>>344825818
the sodium chloride is real
Good Idea: Make a sequel to a cult classic action game for next gen consoles
Bad Idea: Let the game die because a few fanboys might be upset with the console it'll be on
Good Idea: Making a video game console that plays movies.
Bad Idea: Making a movies for the video game console.
OP why not just buy a Wii U? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>344826416
>>344826712
I want to be Bayonetta's puppet!
>Bayonetta 2 flopped on the WiiU
How long until the PS4 enhanced edition?
>>344826975
When your mother stops being a slut
2 years later and still salty
I'll bet your the kind of bitch that whined about it being a nintendo exclusive and "couldn't afford a wii u" and then proceeds to buy another console months later
>>344827578
dat AAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>Bayonettas 1 and 2 on PC never
Good idea: make a fun action game
Bad idea: make it so that you can slow down time whenever you dodge in said game
>>344827927
From what I gather the Wii U emulator is coming along okay.
>>344827927
wii u emulation is actually coming along quite nicely
>>344828037
Yeah bayo 2 might be playable on pc by 2025!
>people think Bayonetta will ever go multiplat ever again
>>344827927
Has a better chance being on PC through emulation than ending up on other consoles.
>>344828202
Well if your argument is Smash we have Cloud to prove you wrong
>>344828202
Those people would be correct.
>>344826975
>Bayonetta 2 flopped on the WiiU
Source?
>>344826975
Never ever, you faggot. Save up your shekels for an NX.
>>344828037
>>344828137
>>344828204
>Bayo 2 @ 5fps
I suppose it's better than 0fps...
It was never a bad idea because Nintendo fronted the money up front.
Platinum is laughing its way to the bank because without Nintendo the game wouldn't fucking exist.
Good idea: Improve the gameplay in every single way from it's predecessor, have an extremely good setting.
Bad idea: Split the game into 3 sections, absolutely destroying anything related to a plot in the process and ruining the good setting previously mentioned.
>>344827578
Thanks Eiji for the fucking awesome art.
>>344824976
ahahahaha, u are STILL mad?
what's even funnier is that you are being salty about the wrong game and don't even know it
Bayo 2 is but a shadow of Bayo 1 but Platinum's other exclusives BTFO is a game of an even bigger scale than both
>>344827578
>dat booty.
FUCKING DROPPED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pommUQ2BkHg
>>344824976
>4 years later and niggas still mad.
Honestly, what other game has done this?
Good Idea: Soundtrack by Anamanaguchi, really good sprites, good gameplay.
Bad Idea: Online is DLC
>>344828749
>Platinum's other exclusives BTFO is a game of an even bigger scale than both
I have absolutely no idea what you meant to say with those words but if you think W101 was far better than bayo I agree
>Bad idea: announce a next gen console and a slim version of your current console on the same day with all of its games becoming playable on PC
Who is to say that Scorpio WILL be a console?
I think Scorpio won't be a console, but a prebuilt PC with Windows 10 preinstalled, playing Xbox games would just be a feature. That would actually be a good idea.
If not then yeah it is retarded.
>Good idea
Upscale some old PS2 games onto a better console, hopefully drumming up anticipation and demand for a ZoE3. Putting a MGR:R demo on it so that it would add more incentive to buy.
>Bad idea
Outsource the job to a fucking shit company that hasn't done dick and refuse to patch it other than ZoE2 for the PS2. Get mad when it doesn't sell because of bad job and can ZoE3.
>>344829210
>if you think W101 was far better than bayo I agree
I just remembered I have loadiine, I should get me a copy of W101.
>>344829210
yeah, i had a brainfart
it was especially stupid to see PS3 people being the angriest of them all because they didn't had enough commitment to buy 360 back when it was THE console for action games and are now whining even louder
and arguments like "first game wasn't even on previous generation console!" become hyper ironic when that same E3 we saw Shenmue kickstarter announced on two platforms that previous games were never on and it was instead met with thunderous applause
Why didn't Bayonetta 2 ever get a ps4 or xb1 version?
>>344829825
Nintendo Bankrolled the project.
>>344829825
Because neither Sony nor Microsoft wanted the game. Only Nintendo wanted it.
Good idea: make an epic scifi rpg trilogy where your choices in one game have consequences in the next
Bad idea: RGB
>bayo 2 will never not bring the salt
>>344829270
meant to quote >>344825535
>>344829825
Nintendo funded the game. They gave the money to make it happen. And it probably isn't under a timed exclusive contract, either.
I'm surprised they did not censor the shit out of it and even allowed skimpy outfits based off Peach and Daisy to be made.
>Good Idea:make a game of anon's two favoruite jrpg franchises
>Bad Idea: make it for the fucking wii u and censor it
FUCK YOU NINTENDO
It's a good idea because it makes people like OP cry bitch tears.
>>344829984
>>344830135
You all right there, anon?
>>344830135
Yeah, fuck you SONY!
>good idea
Make a spinoff about the Galactic Federation
>bad idea
Give it a shitty, bland chibi art style, make the gameplay a stage-based slow, boring co-op FPS, give it a shitty soccer multi mode no one asked for, make it for the N3DS, and make it during a time when there hasn't been a new Metroid game in years
>>344830261
see that too lmao
>>344830261
>>344830201
sorry i had a stroke mid post
>>344830313
>horrible idea
Make it when the most recent game in the series sucked absolute dick and angered the entire fanbase.
>>344830313
Good Idea: Make a Metroid Spin-off to give an outside dev a shot at the series and whatever.
Bad Idea: Call it Metroid Prime with a subtitle.
>>344830454
That too.
MP:FF is the worst apology anyone could ask for.
>>344824976
Bad Idea: Not making a sequel to a cult classic action game at all
You can buy Wii Us for less than a 100 on ebay, people are selling them.
Just buy it, get Bayonetta 2and Wonderful 101and then sell it
>>344830421
That's not good for your brain
>>344830648
neither are video games but we all still play them
>>344830717
Yeah, I'm aware that by not reading, and simply sitting in front of my 3DS all day, I'll probably get early dimentia one day. Ever since I graduated college, I've felt my mind slipping. Won't be long before I'm in a nursing home or some shit like that.
>>344830863
*dementia
See? It's already happening.
>>344830863
Are you me? Feels like shit man.
I was honestly just thinking about this. I catch myself getting mixed up all the time. Like just now I ate a small carton of yogurt, washed it out, put the carton in the sink and was about to throw my spoon away, then I was like, "What the fuck am I doing?"
>>344824976
are these games actually worth playing?
>>344831173
I'm becoming more forgetful now too. Brain age is a thing, and it can be stemmed off, but only if we put effort into exercising the mind. If we don't, like all other muscles, it atrophies.
>>344826975
>>344830086
Ninty own the assets and lifetime publishing rights to Bayo 2. They'd have to greenlight any potential moves for it.
>>344831413
Do you like DMC and Itagaki-era Ninja Gaiden? If yes, absolutely. If not, then no, you won't like Bayo.
>>344831517
Yeah I need to do that. I feel myself becoming more and more forgetful, feel myself doing odd things that don't make much sense while I'm on autopilot, shit like that.
>>344831413
They're both fucking great games. Buying a console just for those 2 games? Depends on your disposable income, I guess.You can pirate Wii U games at the moment, the exploit to pirate games might get patched out sooner or later so you might as well go for it now.
>>344831692
Yeah, it happens to most people. It's not too late to start though, we're only in our 20s. But a lot of people who finish school just stop reading and thinking all together, because, they don't have to.
I used to think school was useless outside of the basics you're taught, but I can see why they kept us there for so many years. If it was up to us as kids, we'd just veg out in front of the TV. We'd be stupid as hell in our adulthood.
This is why I worry about us browsing /v/ all day. It can't be healthy, just arguing about video games all day.
>>344825096
I'm glad they did this since I was a PS3 owner of the game.
>>344832229
Wasn't the PS3 version absolute crap?
>>344832229
So was I
>>344830454
>Other M is bad meme
>>344832229
Same
>>344832475
Yes.
>>344832475
It's definitely the worst version.
>>344832482
Well it is. It lacks the exploration element of the previous eight games in the series. It focuses heavily on "Cinematic Action". Those fucking pixel hunts. And controlling a 3D game with just a D-Pad just doesn't work.
>>344826052
The cutscenes were the best part, gameplay was average at best.
>people are STILL salty about Bayonetta 2
TOP FUCKING KEK
Good idea: Announce a crossover between two series
Bad idea: Make the final product be nothing like a crossover, just minor scant references
Worse idea: put it on the fucking Wiiu
Even worse idea: censor it to scare away their already niche audience
>>344825343
The salt is endless. I still like "It would have been better never being made" meme.
>>344832663
>It lacks the exploration element of the previous eight games in the series.
Other M is more linear than Fusion. FUCKING FUSION
>>344832482
>I like to be contrarian for replies
Anyone who honestly likes Other M for any reason is either a troll or insane. Even if it wasn't a Metroid game it would still be bad thanks to its shitty gameplay, awful control style, and lackluster presentation.
>>344830313
Goddamnit anon, I almost forgot about this and now you reminded me
>>344829042
Final Fantasy back when it went to Playstation with VII, but underage /v/ doesn't remember that time.I'm also not implying /v/ was around then.
>>344832963
I plan on getting it, never played a Persona game before, did they censor anything major?
>>344824976
More like it's time to go to the salt mines yet again.
>>344830313
Was gonna say what >>344830486 did, putting Metroid Prime on it is trying too hard to get an audience, but instead brought negative attention to it.
>>344833367
yes
>>344828725
No prob, Bob.
>>344824976
No one else wanted to fund Bayonetta 2 except Nintendo, so whether you think it's a bad idea or not, it happened and Bayo 2 wouldn't have existed otherwise.
>>344828682
Good idea: hire an actual author to write your story so you can have a satisfying, morally complex narrative to your war game.
Bad idea: throw all of it out to make your story about an objectively evil monster and a magic chair.
>>344826052
Asura's Wrath would be the best anime ever produced by mankind if it had the true end included
Capcom/CC2 should port it to PC/PS4
>>344833485
This fucking guy
>>344833545
As >>344833003 points out though, some retards out there would legitimately rather a game not exist to begin with than be exclusive to a platform they don't own.
>>344833367
No, just some costumes and the thematic of the second dungeon.
Good idea: Publish the sequel to a cult classic action game
Bad idea: Refuse publishing the sequel to a cult classic action game then complain when someone else does it
>>344833215
How is that even possible?
>>344833431
Uh, got any examples? All I see so far is clothing changes.
Anyone else think 2 is kinda overrated?
>all those people calling it the best action game ever created
It's a good game, but come on. Personally, the only thing I remember REALLY ENJOYING from 2 were the Masked Lumen fights.
>>344824976
i want to be bayonetta and do lewd stuff to shotas
Good Idea: Make a third-person shooter that is fucking insane fast and radicool, where you slide around on your ROCKET KNEES
Bad Idea: Cap it at 30FPS
>>344828594
Actually, it could be 60fps much sooner thanks to the Wii U's rather familiar architecture. Not as familiar as the PS4's but still pretty lenient. Xbox OG it ain't.
>>344833556
Anime often make their true endings overpriced OVAs released after the actual season is over. Asura's Wrath releasing its true ending as DLC just continues the process.
>>344833794
Well they changed a dungeon that was based around Gravure modelling to a dungeon based around Fashion.
>>344833553
It's like they had the guy write the setting then instantly fire him.
Some of the shit was RIGHT THERE like Nohr being a poverty stricken country and Hoshido being too snobby to share but can't have that because it would paint Not!Japan in a negative light.
>>344833796
Bayo2 had the more solid gameplay, but Bayo1 had the best setpieces and fights. I think this is indisputable and I kinda wish Platinum added a mode that gave Bayo1 the gameplay refinements found in Bayo2. At that point they would have made a near-perfect action game
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>>344833832
> idea
they likely had no choice in the matter
the game each bullet and projectile individually (as one can see during slo-mo) and it's a huge strain
>>344824976
>Good Idea: Making a sequel to a cult classic action game for next gen consoles.
Obviously not because the only company willing to fund one was Nintendo, and they want nothing to do with making good ideas
>>344832482
Shut Up Dobson. It's not a good game either if that's what you're implying.
>>344833978
And even with Garon being a dick, Nohr was still the more sympathetic of the two. Man, FE Fates had a shit story
>>344833796
I like 2's weapons, its use of color, and its more varied enemy selection, but its overreliance on Witch Time and a final boss that was more mechanically sound but less memorable than 1's soured it, along with a whole lot of retreading the first game's steps instead of breaking away into something more original. I hope that Bayonetta 2 will take the best aspects from both games and make something amazing out of it.And also that it somehow manages to surpass the height that is W101 because goddamn that game is amazing.
>>344830086
>I'm surprised they did not censor the shit out of it and even allowed skimpy outfits based off Peach and Daisy to be made.
Bayo's Link costume originally had her wearing an undershirt, Nintendo told Platinum it would be more in character for her not to be wearing one.
>>344834205I personally think TW101 is a bit of an experimental mess that still managest to be one of the best Platinum games, if not one of the best hack-n-slash/action games
>>344833978
Well, Birthright at least is standard FE fare as far as story goes. Nothing special, but nothing terrible.
They did completely drop the ball on Conquest and Revelations. The fact that Conquest was advertised as changing the kingdom from within is even worse, since Corrin makes the worst decisions possible, and only seems to get his shit mildly together like a chapter before the game is over.
Also reminder that Hinoka wasn't even part of the original story, but was added because the artist wanted to use a character design he had made before.
>>344834334I can understand that. It does feel like it jumbled a whole bunch of elements around until it somehow made something incredible.
Personally, I see it as a love letter to Platinumand Clover, at thatfrom Platinum. So many elements lifted from previous games in their lineup, including most of their most critcally-acclaimed games, and tons of references to everything under the sun, makes it feel almost like it took the original concept of a bunch of Nintendo characters mashed into an action game and decided to mash everything that makes Platinum Platinum into it instead.
>>344833796
That's because it IS overrated.
>shorter game overall
>weapons are shittier
>boss and enemy design much worse
>removal of all that advanced tech
>Soundtrack is worse
It's a good or great game even but it's inferior to the first.
>>344824976
It's Sony's fault. Bayonetta was a beloved game and when Platinum put forth the idea to make another they told them no.
You don't fucking tell Platinum games "no", that's how you say fuck off to good game developers.
I like playstation consoles but Sony is one of the most backwards companies I've ever witnessed.
>>344834914
>Platinum fans are this delusional
>>344834334
It IS experimental and that's what made it so brilliant
it's like the third time Kamiya rehauled:
1) lock-on mechanic -- from very Zelda-like lock-on of DMC1 which changes players' movement, attacks and camera to rock-on of VJ which DOESN'T change but instead changes moveset and ranking system to lock on W101 which adds teleporting but doesn't change camera
2) balance between # of weapons and # of moves on each weapon. Traditionally from DMC1 you have relaitvely low number of weapons with lots of moveset attached to them. But in W101 he moved the scale into having more weapons with less moves and instead gave ability to switch and combine them quickly
>>344834724
I thought the bosses and soundtrack were just as good, and weapons better than the original. Didn't notice any removal of advanced tech either. Last I checked shit like dodge offset still exists in the game.
>>344826975
It sold better than the original, faggot. Don't expect Bayonetta to ever leave Nintendo consoles, even if she gets another sequel.
>>344826052
Fucking great anime. Shame about the gameplay getting in the way though.
>>344834983
Here comes another shitposter that can't stand it when a person likes a thing. How horrible of me to understand Platinum makes videogames that I personally enjoy and fuck me for stating that on an anonymous imageboard.
>>344834334
Sequel Never Ever.
>>344835201
>Here comes another shitposter that can't stand it when a person likes a thing
Again with the delusion, it has jack shit to do with you liking Platinum.
Bayo 1 sold like absolute shit, and most of the copies it sold were after price cuts. Why should a company fund a sequel when they know they're going to take a loss, because YOU like the developer?
>>344832482
It was only decent as an action game. It failed miserably as a Metroid game and the story was craptastic.
>>344835027
>I thought the bosses and soundtrack were just as good,Didn't notice any removal of advanced tech either. Last I checked shit like dodge offset still exists in the game.
Boss design is definitely worse overall, since most bosses have you in flight mode, which removes the Y-axis entirely, making each fight just a matter of hitting and dodging.
From what I listened to, which was the vast majority of it iirc, the soundtrack was definitely mostly forgettable.
>and weapons better than the original.
Weapon design is much worse. There are lots of cases of weapon replacements in 2 being so much worse than the originals in 1. Like Undine being a worse Durga, with a boring moveset and with the freeze effect being so weak that it practically isn't even there. Alraune is kind of cool but Kulshredra gave you more options. Rakshasa is a shitty Shuraba. That you can equip both on your feet is pretty cool though. And then there are others like Kafka. The sad thing is, all they really needed to do was buff them, either in damage, or by enhancing their side effects, like Undine's ability to freeze or Kafka's poison effect.
>Didn't notice any removal of advanced tech either. Last I checked shit like dodge offset still exists in the game.
A lot of advanced tech like dodge offset cancelling or Umbran Spear cancelling were definitely removed, and air combat's been nerfed in general.
Also speaking of, Umbran Climax completely dumbs the game down.
So I take it Nintendo wants to make Bayonetta their own?
>>344835446
Sh-shut up.
All I want is The Wonderful 1,001 eventually, with less random gameplay changes, no more shitty Gamepad sequences, and improved combat.
>>344835668
Ninty and Platinum both said they enjoyed working together and would like to again, and then five minutes later Bayo appears in Smash 4. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if they lock Bayo 3 down to the NX, honestly.
Good Idea: Enjoying games that are good.
Bad Idea: Getting salty over a game not appearing on the console of your choice.
>after all these years, fags are still salty about Bayo 2
Sucks to suck fags, it's a lot of fun lol
>>344835782
>Star Fox Zero
>Bayo 2
>Wonderful 101
Nintendo seems to want to have a long term partnership with Platinum.
Good idea: make a dark souls spin off
Bad idea: out it on a system where no one buys it
>>344835782
I'd be down with Bayonetta being Nintendo's character action game IP instead of a cheap knock-off with Metroid's name attached to it.
Now Nintendo just needs their own FPS IP.
Its weird that the Bayonetta series has more or less the most accurate visual portrayal of angels in gaming.
>>344835534
>since most bosses have you in flight mode
A great deal of them just have part of the fight in flight mode. I can only recall 3 that have you in flight the whole time.
>Weapon design is much worse. There are lots of cases of weapon replacements in 2 being so much worse than the originals in 1. Like Undine being a worse Durga, with a boring moveset and with the freeze effect being so weak that it practically isn't even there. Alraune is kind of cool but Kulshredra gave you more options. Rakshasa is a shitty Shuraba. That you can equip both on your feet is pretty cool though. And then there are others like Kafka. The sad thing is, all they really needed to do was buff them, either in damage, or by enhancing their side effects, like Undine's ability to freeze or Kafka's poison effect.
The original weapons weren't really all that good. Kulshedra was pretty limited, you really couldn't do much at all with it. As far as weapons goes, it was rather shitty. Chernobog is fucking amazing, and Rakshada is pretty much an alternative to Shuraba, it only adds to your arsenal. Literally nothing wrong with it being in the game. But in the original Bayonetta, you had a lot of useless shit like those bazookas. At least with something like Chernobog you could do a lot of damage, and it's pretty fun to use.
And you can still set up a lot of combos with shit like After Burner Kick and Witch Strike.
>>344836316
This I liked how they made angels just as monstrous as the being from Inferno and not only in appearance.
Good Idea : Playing Bayonetta 2
Bad Idea : Buying a PS4
Good idea: Making mega evolutions for your Pokemon.
Bad idea: Making mega evolutions for your legendary Pokemon.
SONYPONY BTFO
>>344836545
Horrible Idea: Making that mega evolution possible without a mega evolution stone.
Not so bad idea: Give it a signature move.
Bayonetta 2's sountrack>Bayonetta 1's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8wpTBKHx1U
>>344836414
>The original weapons weren't really all that good. Kulshedra was pretty limited, you really couldn't do much at all with it.
Kulshedra had more uses than Alraune iirc. You could pull enemies up to you, swing them around, etc. While with Alraune, you ONLY have one grab attack. I just don't know why they didn't do more with that.
>Chernobog is fucking amazing, and Rakshada is pretty much an alternative to Shuraba, it only adds to your arsenal. Literally nothing wrong with it being in the game.
Rakshasa's damage output is WAY too unjustifiably weak. There's no excuse for that bullshit. Whoever decided that was a good idea? It also doesn't have enough unique attacks imo. Chernabog was pretty good though, I agree.
>But in the original Bayonetta, you had a lot of useless shit like those bazookas. At least with something like Chernobog you could do a lot of damage, and it's pretty fun to use.
NOTHING in the original Bayonetta is useless. Every weapon serves a purpose, gives way to interesting ways to fight enemies, and can be good in the right hands. Fucking Lt. Col. Kilgore were extremely useful. Not to mention with the rockets glitch, it had some of the highest damage output in the game, at a pretty safe price too.
God I fucking loved those weapons. They were so fucking good.
>And you can still set up a lot of combos with shit like After Burner Kick and Witch Strike.
Air combat's still been nerfed, especially when they give you shit like Witch Twist.
>>344835782
Kamiya said he really wants to do Bayo 3. Nintendo should go for it again and put it on NX.
I like to think that Sony and possibly MS realized that not funding Bayonetta 2 was a mistake, so they funded other Platinum projects. MS got Scalebound, Sony got Nier, but that's mostly Square Enix, I guess.
>>344836040
>FPS IP
After Splatoon? I doubt they'll make their own FPS. Part of the reason they don't make another F-Zero is because Mario Kart does way better as a racing game. Maybe they could make yet another Metroid spinoff as an online multiplayer FPS game but I bet it would just piss off the fans even more.And people would call it a halo ripoff.
>>344837359
This is bretty gud but the first soundtrack overall had way better tracks.
So Bayo 3 when?
>>344837538
Nope. First game's OST was indistinct and nowhere close to the second's crisp, and bombastic compositions.
>>344837935
NX exclusive
moon river > fly me to the moon
>>344838074
>/v/ thinks it's /mu/
You're just saying random buzzwords to justify your opinion
>>344838074
Well except for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASWwRuqsO1Y
Really captures the feeling of riding a motorcycle up a rocket into low orbit to rescue your sister.
>>344838191
delete this
>>344838074
>First game's OST was indistinct
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
AM I GONNA HAVE TO DROP SOME BOMBS ON THIS MOTHERFUCKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AovGVFQyZVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBfS3KBW_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlftARg5xlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywqKhlOFhjU&index=150
>>344838191
I agree actually. Moon River kicks the shit out of Fly Me to the Moon.
Tomorrow is Mine is superior as well.
Bayo 1 & 2 both have shit music.
>>344838398
>no you may call me father
>no let's dance boys
Leave it to a tripfag to fuck things up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmCt0YHaOqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCUe7UyA_Ec
>>344839065
Both are great.
