what went wrong?
nothing
Publishers stopped caring about quality after they realized the industry peaked and they can print money by literally churning out shit for the masses to eat up.
>Normies ruin Mario
>Normies ruin Pokemon
Make it stop
>2007
>automatic flying section with almost no interaction
>2013
>actually able to move yourself around
>>344748451
In general, Mario has gone from an Italian plumber to a homosexual prepubescent child. Like how long has it been since he's said "mama-Mia"? Super Mario 64 DS? Why does he only make fucking weird sounds now??
>>344748451
You've conveniently forgotten 2010 you know when a sequel to galaxy was released.
>>344748451
>2007
>fun singleplayer game
>2013
>fun multiplayer game
>what went wrong?
Nothing.
>>344748451
Nothing?
3D World wasn't as good as Galaxy, but it was still a very solid entry and the multiplayer was fun too.
>>344748893
He says it in 3D World, you'd know that if you played it.
3D World had lava stages too.
>>344748451
they got better at making games
>>344749306
thank you for missing the point
>>344748907
so? galaxy 2 is good too, better even
it just gives more effect to show how 3D world is worse than a 2007 game
Mr. Gay went back in the closet.
>>344749698
U are not Mr. Gay
>>344749228
Fuck off retard
>>344748451
Nothing, they're both great platformers
>>344749785
What, he asked a question, and I answered it
Why does yoshi always sound like he is trying to do a shit?
>>344750042
Yoshi voice during the 64 era was so much better
>>344750307
Yoshi literally has had the same pool of voice clips from World-Galaxy 2
Galaxy 2 was the first time he got new clips
>>344749672
>thank you for missing the point
which is what exactly
>>344748967
>>344749047
> fun multiplayer game
> Mario
>>344750416
There are two different Yoshi voices
The record scratch sounds in World to I think Mario Party 3, and the voice provided by Totaka starting at Yoshi's Story, whose voice clips were used almost exclusively until Totaka recorded new clips for Galaxy 2.
He's probably talking about the record scratchy voice because it was in the Mario Parties
>1990
>Mario Bros 3 has slopes
>2015
>Mario Maker can't into slopes
For real though, if any other indie dev made a retro looking game and used scaling/rotating sprites the way Nintendo did, people would flip out for the lack of accuracy.
>>344750551
Yes.
It's weird, it's like i'm talking to some kind of autist. It's like you are unable or unwilling to actually ddiscourse and simply hide behind meme picture when your (wrong) worldview is challenged.
>>344750743
There's no slopes in Mario Maker and there never will be because then they'd have to make new sprites for every costume for sliding on slopes.
>>344750839
Prohibit slopes in the SMB1 tileset.
>>344750551
>Mario Bros. started off as a multiplayer game
>shocked when they go back to multiplayer
>>344748967
>changing an awesome single player game to a watered down party game
>nothing changes for the worse
I bet you play smash competitively too.
I felt like 3D World, design wise, was better than Galaxy.
Galaxy was a more impressive adventure game, but 3D World had better level design and mechanics.
>>344748451
The change from Donkey Kong (Rare) to Donkey Kong (Retro) is even worse.
they're jews and wanted to grab the nsmb audience which is almost three times as large as the one for traditional 3d mario so they made 3d mario more like nsmb and it was shit
>>344751020
>say stupid shit ( watered down)
>act like he won
truly you are a paragon for the double digit IQ club
>>344748893
He speaks a full sentence at the end of Galaxy or Galaxy 2, "Thank you so much for playing my game!"
It sounds weird as fuck and it's why he sticks to gibberish.
>>344750901
>super mario bros: you take turns playing he game
>super mario 3D world: the entire game is built upon multiplayer and is watered down so that four people can play it with ease
3Dworldfags will defend this.
>>344751063
>better mechanics
>just takes galaxy mechanics and makes them worse
>ITT: the New Super Mario Bros audience defends their favorite game with their life
>>344751178
you seem really upset that nintendo makes games to play with your friends.
>>344751141
>it's stupid because I say so xD
>B-BTFO!!!
>>344751178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TRmhNXT-A4
3D World is a excellent game.
Nobody is doing platformers because they can't compete.
>>344751168
No it doesn't. Gibberish always sounds worse because it's literally gibberish.
It's at it's absolutely worst in Mario vs Donkey Kong where he flat out sounds like he's having a seizure in one part.
>>344750551
you'd knew that if you ever played any of these games
>>344751278
Now if only you had the ability to examine your own posts and realise why that response was funny.
>first picture is a cutscene
>second picture is gameplay
>>344748451
what went wrong is that you never played 3D World with a friend
>>344751439
Are you implying that this retarded OP cherrypicked his arguments because he got a inadequate penis?
Come on anon, we both know anon is a productive member of society with a stem degree, a 300k job and AT LEAST 5''
>>344751527
3D World is great on solo too, despite whst memers say. It's just better in multiplayer.
>>344751308
>yacht club games
>Way Forward
>Moon Studios / Microsoft Studios
>>344748967
3d world is good fun but it hardly qualifies to as a flagship mario game. I'm shocked that this will be the first time ever that a Nintendo console won't have a flagship Mario game.
I was definitely one of those people who thought 3D World looked like a sheer downgrade from what we'd had in the past, but once I actually played it I wound up loving it.
My one complaint about the game is one I've always had, that the worlds aren't properly themed, and when they are they don't stick to the theme. An ice level being in the desert world just annoys me.
>>344748451
3d world destroys the tutorial shitfest that was galaxy. Walking around planets with a trash control scheme was so inovative guys
>>344751642
Way Forward games have voice acting, from little bits like Shantae just saying "Risky Boots!" to the full voicework in Double Dragon Neon and Ducktales Remastered.
You don't get moments Shantae's going "ICKYBLIBBYDOODOODABBIDYRISKY!"
>>344750797
> Buzzwords; the post.
>>344750901
> Honestly thinking people played as Luigi before he was cool.
> SERIOUSLY thinking people played MB for the multiplayer when games like Street Fighter existed.
>>344751341
> Any of these games.
> New Super Mario Bros series.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>344751801
I think he misquoted.
>>344751795
>trash control system
>locked directions on analogue stick and run button in 3d game is good though
3dworldfags
>>344751168
Uhh anon, you do know that quote came from 64 first, right?
>>344751903
>SF came out at the same time as Mario
years later m8
>>344751917
> I enjoy linear mario levels and walking in a straight line
Galaxy fags are just as cancerous.
>>344751903
>i cannot refute, so i'll just say buzzwords
Hilarious everytime.
>>344751908
>>344751801
whoops.
>>344751642
meant for >>344751291
>>344751979
> Mario Bros. - 1983
> Street Fighter 1 - 1987
3 years. That's not really long imo.
>>344752013
> I don't have a response, better say he's using buzzwords!
Stay forever buttmad.
>>344749306
Mario: Jaggy World
>>344752192
> I don't have a response, better say he's using buzzwords!
You do realise that's exactly what you did, you mongoloid? or are you some 3rd party that's too fuckign retarded to follow a post chain
>>344752192
>3 years
7-3=4
>>344751084
Retro's DKC utterly destroys Rare's DKC.
Who thinks otherwise hasn't played the originals in 20 Yeats.
>>344752297
Yeah I don't know what he's on about. Rare had a good run in the 90s with the originals but Rare was gutted and is just a trademark now. Retro is modern Rare.
>>344748451
Neo-Nintendo
>>344752370
DO you need extra straw ? you parade that Neo-Nintendo so much it must lose a ton
>>344752192
>it's just a few years
Oh man I'm sure all of those kids in 1983 just sat in the arcade and said they'll wait 4 years to play a shittier MP game that was a complete commercial flop.
>>344748451
Just happening upon this thread. Does this picture mean Nintendo fans want more cinematic masterpieces? Should have bought a ps4.
>>344748862
Mario, Zelda and Pokemon are the most normalfag shit out there and has always been that.
>>344751959
No, in 64 he says "Thank you for playing my game", not "Thank you so much". You'd know that if you played it.
>>344748451
Ain't been a good mario since 64 (and maybe half of sunshine). Y'all know this to be a true fact.
>>344748451
>NO
>HUB
>WORLDS
>>344748874
>2007
>exploration and multiple paths to the goal
>2013
>linear obstacle course and a goalpost
Only good thing about SM3DW was the use of the Powerups instead of health.
Oh, and playable Rosalina.
>>344752284
Oops, 4. Alright, alright, reasonable time gap. But again, you can't prove MB was for played mainly for multiplayer, I highly doubt this.
Also, I highly doubt you even played the game, or were born around that time to know how worth it was to play MP.
>>344752246
> I know who you are, but what I'm I?
Or did you know noticed what you replied with posts back, fagoloid?
>>344752431
Wat? Who the fuck says SF wasn't what started the MP brand to the point of relevance? Why do you think SF is how fighter games work to this day? Also;
> Implying one optional mode defined MP gaming
I'm really hating Nintendrones.
>>344753012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arGEVe71Qps&t=7m32s
How about you fucking play the game, smartass. Or at least go to Youtube, fucking newfag.
>>344753310
>exploration and multiple paths to the goal
That only happened in Mario 64. Starting from Sunshine on there was only ever one path, and you had to do things in the order the game wanted anyway.
>>344748451
they improved it.
3d world is fucking dope
I'm not worried yet. Mario series has mixed it up in the past, and 3D World was solid.
Now, if they keep using the same style, I'll be sad. Contained stages and courses were nice, but I do prefer open-area style of Sunshine and 64.
Though one thing I would have liked to see in 3D World is SMW styled maps, with lots of secrets and alternate paths, but 3D World barely had any.
>>344753351
>Wat? Who the fuck says SF wasn't what started the MP brand to the point of relevance?
Because there were plenty of popular MP games before like Pong and the Atari sports games. SF1 was completely ignored, it was SF2 that really blew up the fighting game genre to blockbuster levels, but there were plenty of fighters that were popular and way bigger than SF1 before SF2 came out.
You're a kid
>>344753351
>Who the fuck says SF wasn't what started the MP brand to the point of relevance?
Don't be ridiculous. It was around the Genesis/SNES generation when fighting games became the face of multiplayer, there was plenty of other stuff before that.
Do you seriously think nobody played Contra or Bubble Bobble?
>actually implying that anybody gave a shit about vs in SF1 or SF1 to begin with
these threads are so retarded holy fuck
>>344748451
Short answer?
Neo-Nintendo
>>344750839
So one extra sprite per costume? Wouldn't it just be them sitting?
>>344748451
>3D World
>Galaxy sequel
Nigga, 3D World is a sequel to 3D Land. A new kind of Mario game. It's on the 64/Sunshine/Galaxy line for the same reason NSMB is not.
That said it's still a great game. Just not as good.
Also, ponytail Rosalina.
>>344749785
oh cool you made a shit statement, someone corrected you, and now you're name calling
3D World is a great game for anyone willing to actually play it. The level design is probably the best it's ever been in Mario games.
>>344748451
You didn't play it with friends
>>344753617
>Pong
Because that was fucking NEW at the time. Basically the very first video game, of course it would have been popular for MP, for like 1 day.
> Atari
Again, see above, but now realized how no fucking one talks about Atari because of how ultimately shit it was, ending with the E.T game killing VGs until Ninty saved the market.
>SF1 was completely ignored, it was SF2 that really blew up the fighting game genre to blockbuster levels,
SF1 wasn't completely ignored, otherwise how the fuck would there be a sequel for it? Capcom gave it another chance since enough people found it interesting for a MP focused game, and thanks to its mistake in the sequel, the combo system, it skyrocketed in popularity and made what most fighting games are, and what mostly all MP games sale most in, as my original point posts back was aimed towards.
Only manchild fedorafuckers spout tripe and use the "you're just a kid" tagline like you're fucking Iris from the Pokeanime.
>>344753789
Contra does have it's merits, I played it with my brother. But the game was too hard to be anything more than what I said above about Pong, a game fun for like 2 hours than put down after you're tired of it. My older brother btw was far better than me, but it still wasn't a game worth beating.
>>344754493
>SF1 wasn't completely ignored, otherwise how the fuck would there be a sequel for it?
Because SF2 was supposed to be a sequel to Final Fight
>>344754392
>The level design is probably the best it's ever been in Mario games.
This. Making linear levels actually allowed them to work on very refined devel design. Not those sandbox clusterfucks of 64 and Sunshine. There is a reason the most challenging levels in 64 and Sunshine were Bowser's stages in the former and the special stages in the latter. Becuse they were linear and well designed.
>>344754596
Final Fight was the "first" version of SF2, it was supposed to be a sequel to SF1, but later changed to a beat em up later to be FF after. But, Capcom still went back and made SF2 afterwards.
>>344754493
I wish more games were like Contra. Some actual co-op challenge. I thoroughly enjoyed the game with my brother when I was a kid. Even with the lives cheat I game over'ed but I it was still fun.
>Gimmick Mario
1000/10 best mario ever, please give me the exact same game twice, thanks!
>fully realized version of the handheld 3D Land
It's shit, please do paintworld 2 with more voice acting
>>344753951
This lovely anon gets it. Although, it's easier to say Neotendo.
>2 wonderful and evolutionary back-to-back 3D platformers with gorgeous soundtrack, visuals and creativity
>a literal diorama platformer with NSMB plastic sheen style and clusterfuck co-op from NSMB
>went from making good 3D and 2D games to this awful nybrid of the 2 because casuals refuse to get into 3D Mario
I have little hope for what's next in store for mainline Mario games but I wouldn't be surprised if they default to another 3D "_____" game. The naming convention is fucking stupid. It is Fake 3D.
>>344755985
>blitzmo
Just how many times do I have to filter you?
>>344748874
this desu
The occasional cinematic cutscene in SMG1/2 were neat but they were only there to cover up load times and the only control you had during them was waving the pointer. I won't miss them.
>>344750839
There's no slopes because they'd have to make every object in the game interact with them, which I can't imagine would be always successful (like what will Thwomps, Munchers or Skewers do when hitting a slope, shit like that). Plus all the extra interactions that'd need to be coded for both Mario and all the other objects in the game.
>>344755985
After the delusion Paper Jam, NSMBs and Super Mario 3D somethings were, I think traditional 3D Mario games are the only ones I'll ever buy from now on, if they will keep making them that is
Honestly, most of Nintendo's franchise quality is being destroyed: Pokèmon when they decided to go full nostalgiafagging and erasing plot and characters with the VI gen, Metroid I honestly never liked that much outside Super Metroid, Yoshi only ever had one good game and Kirby I never got really much into it, only Zelda is still good IMO: ALBW saved the franchise
Luckily, new good franchises are rising from it: Xenoblade and the new Dongs are very good, I wish they kept Pandora's Tower and made spiritual sequels of it, Fire Embem seems to be good too if you don't play it on the babby casual modes
>>344748451
It's because Nintendo is hellbent on trying to get people who buy the 2D Mario games into buying the 3D Marios.
2D Mario games have a history of usually selling around 20-30 million while 3D Mario games tend to sell around 5-10 million. Even before 3D Land/World, you can see how far back Nintendo was trying to get the 2D Mario crowd to convert considering that Galaxy was far more linear compared to 64/Sunshine, Galaxy 2 even more so.
