what went wrong? how did the most famous mascot's evolution turn into such a laughing stock?
What do you mean? Raichu is cool.
says who
>>344706901
I will fucking kick your ass.
>>344706901
Source?
At least they had the decency to give him an additional 10 base speed for gen 6.
Makes LO Modest/Adamant Raichu outclass the Timid/Jolly Light Ball Pikachu. So fuck you Pikachu.
>>344706901
It feeds the entire narrative of "never wake up be a kid forever" which Pokemon has been perpetuating since it's birth.
Ash didn't evolve Pikachu because it represents his childhood, his naivete, his innocence, his uniqueness. This is what millenials have been taught to shelter and hold on to, only reinforced by society and the very things we love. He choose the easy path, to keep his childhood instead of maturing and doing great things, like becoming the champion of the Elite 4. Instead he restarts his journey as if it had never happened every time, as if he had learned nothing, as if he were still a kid.
>>344707084
>>344706996
nobody likes raichu
>>344707472
Isn't it canon that Ash doesn't age? i.e. when he starts a new adventure, it's as if he's doing it for the first time.
He'd be like 20 years old by now if he aged
>>344706901
Pikachu was never meant to be the "main" mascot. They probably wouldn't have given it an evolution if they'd known how much more popular it would be than the intended mascots.
For the record this was the Pokemon they thought was going to be more marketable than Pikachu.
>>344707742
I like Raichu
In what sense?
Clefairy was supposed to be the mascot but the audience rallied around Pikachu. It's not like they could take back Raichu's existence at that point.
>>344707965
source on that claim
>>344707965
But yet, Poliwrath still existed.
>>344707965
doesn't really help your "it wouldn't have had an evolution" angle
also the actual intended mascot was clefairy, poliwhirl was just the original creator's favorite
>>344707965
>poliwhirl was supposed to be the mascot
>>344708068
>clefairy was supposed to be the mascot
okay /v/ which one is it
>>344706901
Raichu was always my favorite tbqhI'm sure my internal battery as died by now, so RIP Sparky ;_;
>>344707965
Poliwrath is the best Pokemon ever though.
When will people understand?
>>344708139
cerbat
>>344708139
both at the same time.
In fact, all 150
>>344708139
Clefairy in Japan and Poliwhirl in America
>>344708139
Neither. Jigglypuff was supposed to be the mascot and Ash's starter Pokemon.
>>344706901
Raichu is an abomination, those arms and ears make me puke
>>344708265
its not even the best gen 1 water type
>>344707965
I heard Clefairy was thought to be the mascot
>>344707965
>They probably wouldn't have given it an evolution if they'd known how much more popular it would be than the intended mascots.
How does that make sense given that Poliwhirl is a middle evolution Pokemon?
>>344708369
Everyone loved the shit out of Poliwhirl when Pokemon first came out, I do remember that.
>>344708139
Clefairy
Poliwhirl was IIRC Sugimori's or Taijiri's favorite back in the day
Both got big spots in different manga though
>>344708139
A little of column A, a little of column B.
I remember a bunch of old Pokemon stuff with Poliwhirl on 'em.
>>344708514
yeah I got some old pokemon magazines with poliwhirl on them
>>344706901
>the end of his tail is just pikachus tale
>>344707472
The moral I got from that episode is nothing like you describe.
I always saw it as Pikachu beating Raichu through perseverance and wit instead of using the stone for an easy way out.
Also, Ash didn't sell out his pal for an empty victory, all that shit you got is more than likely just a projection of your shit upbringing.
>>344707742
I love Raichu, he's my favourite electric Pokemon and Electric is my favourite type.
>>344707742
Hey I like raichu.
>>344706901
My question is how was Pikachu decided as the face of the series. I mean obviously the cartoon is the reason, but why did they pick Pikachu? I can guess they didn't want to pick a starter since that would alienate people that picked different starters in the game.
>>344708139
Poliwhirl is just the creator of Pokemon's favorite.
there is that episode of the anime where pikachu doesn't want to evolve into a raichu.
>>344708139
it was suposed to be eevee actually
>>344706901
Cool name, but the design just deviates too far from pikachu's adorable for everyone design. The ears are weird, too.
>>344706901
le gamefreak hates raichu!
>>>/vp/
>>344708760
to be fair more often than not in pokemon the first forms tend to be cute while the final forms are more "badass"
What I want to know is why they changed it's cry to some high pitched squeak from what it used to be.
>>344708840
not talking about gamefreak, I'm talking about public opinion
>>344708928
>Pikachu gets his Pika
>Raichu loses all the damn static in its cry
Sad is me
>>344708639
Mice make good mascots for whatever reason. Mickey, Chuck E Cheese, others I'm sure.
>>344708514
>>344708068
>>344708470
>>344708495
You know, it's funny that I hear that Clefairy was supposed to be the mascot when it was fucking Jigglypuff that sometimes stole the spotlight whenever she appeared in the anime. They actually based potions of the episode around Jigglypuff while as Clefairy showed up only 3 times as wild pokemon in the anime.
![220px-Lena_Pichu[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/6qQeCif.jpg "220px-Lena_Pichu[1].png")
and then there's THIS faggot
season 1 of pokemon is actually a really good adventure monsterpal anime
after season 1 there is a steep drop off
>>344707472
>>344707965
Not the mascot but it was definitely a mon they wanted to push as popular.Which I don't mind since Poliwhirl is cool.
>>344709162
Clefairy had that mt moon episode at least
>>344709208
not as bad as plus and minus or whatever those poser cunts were called
>>344709245
we got a seezwunner over here get a load of this guy
>>344708113
It's well known, especially if you were around when Pokemania began. hell look at the cover of TIME
underage little fag
>>344709336
>porygon and its evolution line will never be in another episode again
>despite being some of the more interesting 'mons around
>>344709245
I blame ash not winning the indigo league as the begining of the end.
It was an interesting twist, but he just says fuck it and leaves the country. WTF.
>laughing stock
>got +10 extra speed in xy
>owned by one of the recurring characters in the anime
Sure buddy
>>344709336
Right, I was trying to refer to that.
Best Ground type in gen 1. Nigga can swim
>>344709530
literally the first pokemon ever made
>>344709530
THE HORN
H
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H
O
R
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tbqh Eevee is the mascot of the games. Pikachu is for the animefags and the normalfags.
>>344709450
>jobbed to le /ss/ christmas tree to show off it's strength
That aside I like Raichu.
>said recurring character being good at all
>>344709660
Eevee sucks and is for furfaggots.
>>344709530
he's actually the best down to stats too, because he has slightly more attack (or defense, forgot which) than golem, and since neither is gonna be outrunning shit, that would actually be preferable.
i'm also pretty sure it's movepool is better overall.
>>344709618
is it really?
>>344709409
I'm probably older than you faglord. You say something, another guy claims it was Chancey, and you provide no proofs. Not everyone's life was about 0-24 Pokemon. But in the end, you should just kill yourself.
>>344709618
That's rhyhorn, silly
>>344709660
>>344709778
But they're both cute
>>344709618
mew was registered back in 91. Mew's the first.
>>344709650POWERFUL
>>344709778
>NOTHIN PERSONAL KID
>>344707742
>nobody likes raichu
I want to marry Raichu.
>>344709880
yup, Rhydon was the first pokemon ever made
also the reason its the trump pokemon of Giovanni
>>344709530
Why are bipedal pokemon so awesome
>>344709778
I don't remember that happening in the manga. Does he evolve right after so he doesn't die?
>>344709880
yes, it's even the first Pokemon by index number
>>344709928
no
>>344706901
I actually always liked Raichu's design.
It looks dangerous compared to PIkachu.
>>344710105
No, it was a Double Team. Poli in the manga evolved after being thrown into the sea by an Electabuzz and accidentally touching an everlasting Water Stone.
>>344706901
I literally think he looks 100% better than pikachu.
Never understood how people can like pikachu more.
>>344710097
because they can masturbate like normal people
>>344710097
Look at these god damn swag pokemon
>>344710143
Rhydon is CUTE!
>>344710248
still don't understand why Tyranitar wasn't one of Karen's pokemon
dark type E4 member without the king of dark types, a shame
>>344710105
Nah he fucking dies.
I'm not gonna Raichu a love song.
>>344710221
Is that what you literally think?
Well I'll literally believe you this time.
>>344710248
>cute and dangerous
how do they do it
>pokemon will never be real no matter how many AR apps are released
Raichu is cute!
>>344709778
what is stabbing him?
>>344710582
Fearow
Ay girl lemme take a Pikachu inna shower
>>344710487
>Marowak will never be a viable pokemon
>>344710550
>ywn go on a journey, catch a team of absolute friends, and relax with your human friends in a comfy secret base
>you'll either be a wageslave or homeless in reality
Kill me, maybe I can reincarnate into the Pokemon world.
>>344710582
Fearow
>>344710487
I dont know.
>>344710487
A mouth that large could easily accommodate my mighty cum wad.
>>344710550
I got plenty of spare tickets to the Pokemon world my man
Raichu is actually really useful in Doubles due to lightning rod and being one of few to learn nasty plot
autistic faggots that flat-out rejected anything to do with it due to the anime's unwillingness to evolve pikachu
and then gamefreak being stupid-shit assholes and making pikachu stronger than raichu with items.
I'm fixin' to Zapdos panties off girl
>>344710924
what kind of retarded european caliber is .35?
>>344710889
No lewd allowed
Only good pokemon
>>344711026
I dunno dude. I figure it'll work anyway.
Damn girl, yo sister is Ghastly, buy that ho some makeup
>>344710802
>Wageslave
Make your own video games instead it's better
>>344711070
normal typing is trash
maybe if he was normal/rock or something
>>344710487
What would a mega Typhlosion be?
Would it stay fire?
Would it gain dark typing because of it's skin?
How about ground to be a volcanoe eruption?
Or how about Posion because it's a fucking rat?
>>344711239
>caring about anything but aesthetics
When I was younger and didn't have access to a PokeDex book or a strategy guide, I saw this VHS at a Blockbuster and seriously thought Lt. Surge was Ash's Dad and Raichu was a darker version of Pikachu.
>>344708854
Umbreon and Espion were the starters of the very first console RPG Pokemon. What the fuck did they ever let Leafeon do? Besides having the best design and the worst name out of the Eevees.
They rode around on a Lapras for an entire season of the anime, but what did Wailord do other than the SkittyXWailord joke?
They hadn't completely fucked up by gen 3. I know who Raltz is, because once upon a time your rival used to highlight a a specific Pokémon.
Why is there a gen 1 Pokémon in your front yard to introduce mounts in X&Y? How the hell are any new designs supposed to stick if they keep getting elbowed aside by earlier gens?
Hey Fennekin is cool but OH WHAT I just got a free Torchic? Oh fuck is Charizard actually a dragon now? Who gives a shit about that little fire breathing bird I caught anymore?
Fuck nostalgia. Black&White had the right idea.
>>344711192
But I don't into programming.I have no marketable skills and I'm currently undeclared major in uni, pls help
>>344711239
>Machop used Rock Smash!
>>344711323
in terms of pure aesthetics my team would probably be just a bunch of legendaries then
>>344711312
>megas
Bad anon, bad.
>>344711239
>normal type is trash
>suggest he becomes more vulnerable to normals one weakness
Silly anon
>>344709778
>>344710416
>tfw had this book way back when
Pokemon Adventure's version of Misty did things to my dick.
>>344709436
And the worst part is that the seizure was Pikachu's fault, he was the one that blew up those missiles.
>>344711396
>>344711323
Only because the shittiest looking Pokemon are always the ones with good typing/stats.
Looking at you klefshit.
best bird
>>344711397
>missing out on these awesome pokemon
>>344711239
>trash
Your only resistance is Rock/Steel and immunity to Ghost but also from ghost and your only super effective is Fighting
Also keep in mind that normal types have the advantage of not being locked into their type, they can do whatever the fuck they want and tend to have access to more variety typing wise on their moves than any other type
Ursaring here gets belly drum, fake out, and priory moves like extreme speed, as well as Guts, that shits nice
>>344711239
>normal/rock
Enjoy getting one-shot by every mon capable of learning a fighting type attack.
>>344711396
Take any major
You can learn programming by yourself online
>>344711547
Such is life as a pokemon
The better you look the worse you are
You mean the drawings the Japanese artist makes? Those made Raichu my favorite Pokemon!
>>344711418
It's the only pure fire starter
Why not
>>344711549
Too bad Pidgeotto is a worthless mid evolution and fucks up the excitement.
So instead of hanging with a Pidgey for over half the game and being rewarded with a fuckhuge evolution, you have to watch him grow in tiny increments that make everything less impressive.
So yeah, Pidgeot is the best bird. Shame about his worthless teen years.
>>344711723
Machamp is pretty good
that said was it possible to get no-guard fissures now or not?
>>344711549
>tfw best bird gets a Mega
Too bad regular pidgeot is trash
>>344711815
>Shame about his worthless teen years.
Hey thats just like pokemon players!
>>344711486
It's a good read.
>>344711890
We'll see when S/M come out.
Reminder that whatever your favorite Eeveelution is, someone's favorite is Flareon, and they are dreadfully aware of how shit their favorite is.
I don't know why Flareonfriends would do that to themselves, but their suffering is beyond comprehension.
>>344710802
>ywn be that lucky kid who gets to meet every fucking legendary in the god damn pokemon universe in only two fucking years.
>>344711890
Pokemon red and blue is able to transfer to sun and moon only
So we don't know yet
The reason we never get no guard fissure is because gen 2 and 3 changed what moves a Pokemon can learn and you can't transfer gen 1-2 to 3
>>344711815
>tfw just catching a level 37 Pidgeotto on 3 Island in FRLG instead of wasting time with that
>>344707965
I loved Poliwhirl. Sad to see it fell into obscurity as generations went on.
>>344706901
I bet they regret giving pikachu an evo. Now they can't give him an edgy mega evolution.
>>344712040
know that, didn't know R/B transfer would only work to S/M
here's hoping no guard fissure is a thing, would at the very least give machamp one hell of a niche
>>344708626
>Giving up his friend
>Keeping him from maturing into an adult
Ash is harming Pikachu
>>344711486
Electric Tale of Pikachu Misty > All
>>344712198
pikachus can breed successfully
biologically speaking it could very well be an adult
>>344712032
Flareon was good in gen 1 and 2
The stat changes and physical special split are what fucked him over
So that's like around 3 gens where it's perfectly fine to like Flareon, you can't just not like him anymore
>>344706901
Why does Raichu lose it's fingers?
>>344707472
>>344708626
I thought raichu was slower cause he was fatter than pikachu
heres my fave poke
r8?
>>344712241
>Electric Tale of Pikachu
>>344712032
Flareon can't be any worse than typhlosion
>>344712350
10/10
When will Ice types get the buff they rightfully deserve? Mega Salamence needs a hard counter this time around.
>>344712387
They're in the same boat. High Attack, barely any physical fire moves.
Literally anything you would use Flareon or Typhlosion for, you could use Blaziken instead.
>>344712134
It's weird why it's only allowed for Sun and Moon
But I think it's because Gamefreak in general is lazy at editing old games in Gen 6
Hell you couldn't trade between ORAS and XY or bring back newer megastones
>>344712418
I haven't played since gen 4 but last I checked ice types were breddy good
>Later versions of Pokemon have the Light Orb
Even Nintendo likes shitting on Raichu.
But I still love him. He's always been a staple for an Electric Type in my team.
>>344712241
I will gladly disagree with your opinion.
>>344711701
>tfw shitty 3.1 gpa
I need to step it up honestly. Any good resources for starting programming?
>>344712350
8/10, pretty good. r8 mine
>>344712420
>>344712408
thx feralibros
>>344712350
Mah nigga
My favorite Pokemon was originally a tie between Typhlosion and Ferligatr, with Typhlosion having a special place for being my very first starter
But o ended up accepting Feraligatr as my No1 because his design is fucking great
>>344707742
Fuck you raichu got me through my first elite 4 he's forever gonna be my top 10 favorites
>>344712643
>Elektross
Tops
best mon
>>344712626
The starters were all downhill from here.
>>344712779
agreedthough mudkip was cool
>>344711815
>Wants to have to level up an even more worthless Pokemon for even longer
Dumb
>>344712626
>>344712594
>>344712420
>>344712350
Water niggas in this thread
Reminder that all Eevees are equalexcept Flareon.
>>344712516
Ice type MOVES are great
Ice type Pokemon aren't, or Atleast Gamefreak doesn't try to help
Offensive Ice types are great, like Mammoswine and Weavile and regice
But somebody at GF decided "Ice types need to be more defensive" but was also a fucking retard because Ice type is by far the most garbage defensive type in existance
Ice only resists itself, That's it, and is SE against, Fire, Rock, Steel, and fighting, which are extremely common
Gen 6 only intruded 2 ice type lines
And they are BOTH Defensive
>>344712256
Teenagers can breed as well, hell some even younger than that
>>344711524
HAIRLINE
>>344713627
5hed
>>344712932
Nothing comes close to how retarded Gen 2 Sneasel was. But there's more to the worth of a Pokémon than its battle prowess. Sneasel was still an awesome Pokémon regardless of its uselessness even in Gen 2.
Post qt3.14s
>>344707965
Poliwhirl was the first concept art for Pokemon, and Clefairy was supposed to the mascot.
>>344708121
Hence why Poliwrath is literally just an angry Poliwhirl.
keep the mascot's design consistent
>>344710486
You're also literally a faggot :^).
>>344710407
He would be broken at the time?
>>344712241
>>344712380
Electric Tale of Pikachu Sabrina was a god-tier waifu
>>344714078
Ok.
Grumpig is a best and this is fact
Can someone tell me why pokemon that require trading to evolve was, and still is a thing?
I get it might encourage trading with other people.
But it's kinda annoying in practice.
>>344707472
Maybe it's like Dorian Grey's painting. If Pikachu evolves into Raichu, Ash immediately ages into a 40-something man-child.
>>344714527
I want to fuck this ghost.
>>344714710
Gengar is not for lewd.
Unless its for me.
>>344708840
Mad sperg lord detcted
I would get the fuck of v for the next. Year if you want a safe space
Redit fag
>>344714605
Trade cables, that and it gave people n excuse to buy both versions besides unique Pokemon.
It's a pretty big jew move but wi fi has taken away the hassle mostly.
>>344707742
I like raichu.
Raichu is cute and better than Pikachu.
>>344714437
Adventures Sabrina ain't so bad either
>>344708139
From what I understand, they came down to either Clefairy or Pikachu. Eventually they decided that Pikachu was more marketable in both the East and West and went with Pikachu.
best bat
The real question is why does anyone like Pikachu?
>>344715262
Thank god. Clefairy would have been an awful choice.
>>344715129
>tfw this scene was my first fap
Why are mixed gender hot springs scenes so best?
>>344715306
I'm sure a lot due, it's just that longer term fans tend to dislike it due to the overexposure. It's still pretty cute.
>>344715262
Clefairy is too girly for the West. They would need to give it the Kirby treatment if they wanted it to catch on
>>344714870
Donald Trump will make anime real.
10/10 would vote for again.
>>344709450
>owned by one of the recurring characters in the anime
It's not owned by Ash, Brock, Misty, Nurse Jenny, Policewoman Jenny, Team Rocket, Gary, or any of the pokegirls.
Who are you talking about?
Best Pokemon coming through.
Everybody else can get fucked.
>>344707965
Pikachu only became the mascot because it won some popularity poll. When the game debuted it was just some Pokemon like any other.
>>344715825
It was obviously because of the anime, you fool.
>>344715650
https://youtu.be/T2i_R7zUPVw
>>344715905
Yeah but WHY did they choose Pikachu to be Ash's partner when he could have just had the starters?
>>344715905
How did they choose it to be Ash's starter in the anime though?
>tfw no one cares for your favorite pokemon
>>344710097
one of the reasons I don't like how they changed the pokemon designs to be single flat colors from the third game onwards.
Feraligatr in original G/S was like fucking godzilla on steroids but that pic is cartoony as shit
>>344716142
it's a fucking ball
>>344716142
Stop having shit taste.
What did pikachu mean by this?
>>344706901
Nigga I will fight you.
Raichu is fucking cute!
>>344706901
The problem is the light ball. People think that doubling pikachu's offensive stats make it viable, when in reality Raichu hits almost as hard, while being able to hold an item, and be faster than pikachu.
>>344716065
>>344716050
Probably for some Original Story or some shit.
He gets to Oak's lab late and all 3 starters were taken.
I dont even think they show us which one Gary chose.
>>344716065
>>344716050
Wouldn't it make sense to make ash first get squirtle, bulbasaur, and finally charmander.
The logic is that's how they're presented as easy, normal, and difficult to train.
>>344716142
Weird choice dude. I'll never forget his Pokemon Stadium eyes.
>>344716050
Because it's unique.
>>344716142
I get that Voltorb was supposed to be the 'mimic' of the games, since items on the ground are represented by pokeballs, but Electrode feels like one of the weakest and laziest evolutions in the game.
>>344716142
I like him.
>>344716312
He took Squirtle
>>344716327
In terms of difficulty it'd be bulbasaur then squirtle then charmander.
Bulbasaur has an advantage at the first two gyms, squirtle only has an advantage at the first.
>>344716373
DEEPEST
LORE
>>344708461
You're right. It's Seadra.
>>344716142
You get used to it. I'll still love him forever.
>>344716296
where do you guys keep getting this shit from lol
>>344716412
>rival picks the pokemon that is weak to the protagonists pokemon
the anime is dumb
Raichu is cute!
CUTE!
>>344716373
He's okay.
>>344707472
>>344716327
Because he already gets those with his Pikachu.
IIRC, Bulbasaur was never seen again after Kanto, Squirtle occasionally showed up to put on his sunglasses, and Charmander became a recurring character that was tsunder for Ash.
>>344716373
>electrode can open up
w-what
>>344716543
>>344708461
Are you people dense? It is Gyarados. And to this day, it's still Gyarados.
>>344707742
I like Raichu.
He is speedy as fuck.
>>344715905
No fucking shit, they chose Pikachu to be his stater in the anime BECAUSE of the popularity poll.
>>344716595
>mfw it was a "charizard could win but doesn't just because" episode
>>344716492
You had best post more best girl.
>>344716640
Well it is a living Pokeball.
Was Ash gay?
>>344707472
>>344716741
ash is like 8 he isn't anything
>>344716557
To be fair he chose his Squirtle before Ash chose Pikachu, who wasn't even an option before Ash showed up late.
>>344716649
Gyarados is a fat piece of shit, and you should feel bad for liking it.
>>344716676
Didn't Charizard beat Blastoise and Dragonite?
>>344716676
>tfw he jobbed to fucking DUSCLOPS
>>344709245
I've rewatched Season 1 of Pokemon, Digimon, and Yugioh now as an adult. Digimon is so much better than the other two, it's not even a competition.
>>344716836
Hyper beam.
>>344716142
tfw plenty of love for my favorite
>>344716595
>Bulbasaur was never seen again after Kanto
Still mad. Bulbasaur was my favorite of his three Kanto starters.
>>344716935
Is a death sentence for the caster.
>>344716906
Digimom is fucking shit.
>>344711549
not staraptor
>>344707472
just like the players who keep playing the same game every generation instead of doing something with their lives
>>344708139
>>344708068
Let it be known that at the time, Clefairy was pushed more than Pikachu. Pikachu was just a normal Pokemon at the time of Red/Green's release. When Blue released in Japan, Pikachu was picked for the mascot for the anime. One year later...
>>344717015
It one shots everything in the game.
>>344716692
But that's not best girl.
>>344716963
Bulbasaur showed up a few times afterwards though, mostly cameos but it had major roles in the Johto League and Ash's final Battle Frontier challenge.
>>344717026
Yeah make way for the true patrician monster-collecting series
>>344707742
Raichu is my wife's son's favorite pokemon.
>>344716854
It's been years since I've read this and I still know that Brock says "so we have a dilemma" or something in the leftmost bubble of the third panel.
