>I can confirm that Valkyrie Drive: Bhikkhuni will be brought to the west in its original form, with content completely intact. It will be with a Japanese dub and English subtitles.
>We generally don’t take on these kinds of projects if we’re not confident we can release it in the west without cutting or changing content. Changing the source material kind of defeats the purpose of doing it in the first place, so that is not something we even consider unless we literally have no other options. In terms of platform holders and ratings boards, you’d be surprised what you can get away with. Gal*Gun: Double Peace passed quite painlessly for example.
>Where issues might arise in terms of publishing, is selling the title in to retailers who might be hesitant to take it. A game doesn’t just appear at retailers when we release it; a big part of the process is to go around and sell the title to each individual retailer and negotiate numbers and prices. Trying to present a game like Valkyrie Drive to a group of executives at a major retailer, who might be in their 50’s and don’t play or particularly care about games, and convince them that Valkyrie Drive is amazing and would do really well on their shelves or their website, can be quite the challenge for the sales team.
>http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/07/11/valkyrie-drive-bhikkhuni-publisher-explains-why-itll-be-released-uncensored-will-have-japanese-voices/
Old men running the world ruining everything as usual
So with VD announcement discussion got a little heated up on XSEED's forums and Tom came out to explain some things
>"Port-spamming and placing the safest bets"? Ahem? Touhou: Scarlet Curiosity? Xanadu Next? Trails of Cold Steel II *and* Trails in the Sky the 3rd? Akiba's Beat? Fate/Extella? Exile's End? Freakin' SHANTAE?! (OK, so Shantae is a safe bet, but I mean, come on, how could we NOT publish Shantae? And what about ANY of those other games constitutes a "safe bet"?)
>We currently have one of our best lineups we've EVER had since I joined XSEED six years ago, as far as I'm concerned. I'm sorry if the games we're offering for 2016 don't interest you personally, but there's far from a lack of variety here, far from an overabundance of ports, and far from a lack of anything good to play. We've got a little something for everybody here.
>Terro messaged me with some of these concerns, so I figured I'd pop in and help assuage them. We have not "changed our policies." We haven't actually done anything differently than ever before. We always choose our offerings very carefully, and we always try to offer the best content possible. Sometimes, other publishers get games that one might typically consider to be "sure things for XSEED," and when that happens, we wish them all the best, and strongly encourage you to buy their products. We're not competing with PQube or Aksys or Mastiff or anyone else -- they're our colleagues, and their good fortune is the industry's good fortune. We also haven't given up on Vita, given up on risque gaming, given up on Falcom, OR given up on Marvelous first-party titles. Far from it.
>We're just random and unpredictable. Just when you think you have us pegged down... BAM. We come out of left field with something new.
>That's just how we roll, yo. ;)
>And sooner or later, we'll release something else you're interested in. It's inevitable!
>-Tom
I don't know anything about the actual game, but the anime was pretty much softcore lesbian porn.
If they can get that through without censorship, then good for them. Nice work.
>>344681424
Wow, publishers have to bend over backwards to appease weebs now
Game's back on Shopto
http://www.shopto.net/video-games/psvita/PSPVVA01-valkyrie-drive
>>344681424
B A S E D
>>344681424
Now if only the game was actually any good
Not that was ever in the weebs' priorities.
Amazon preorders when?
>>344683828
I hope they go under.
Why are other devs afraid of SJWs when releasing a game in the west? Do they not know people who actually buy the games don't give a fuck about critics' opinions, or is something really preventing them from releasing like that
>>344685807
Came here to say this
>>344681424
You guys are not going to buy this just because of boobs right? The game is pretty bad and was universally trashed when it came out in Japan.
Censorship is always a publisher decision unless it is really graphic like nipples, but retards keep defending nintendo.
It won't be censored cause it's not mainstream and nobody here gives a shit except weebs who buy bad games with fanservice
>>344686284
No it wasn't and the gameplay looks pretty fun too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaoO-MJj4_U
It's another thread filled with
>I didn't play the game but I heard from here it was shit even if I didn't see any footage and you only care about it for the boobs kys fucking weebs
>>344686905
>Another senran kagura
meh
>>344687045
Is better than SK
>>344686284
It's ok though in terms of gameplay if only because of what you have to do when searching for collectibles. I'm including the Secret Missions with them too.
>>344686989
Well maybe if you faggots actually got better tastes in video games and not have your criteria be one single thing being "does it have cute girls in it", we would give you the benefit of a doubt that your game of the week ISN'T a rancid sack of shit only remotely given a damn about by its boobs per miles ratio
>>344686905
That looks a lot better than SK. I fucking hated how slow everyone was in those games despite being ninjas.
>>344688941
And you're the kind of retard who put all japanese games in the same bag, and whine every time there's girls in it. Even if it's good, cause yes, VD is actually fun and has a good gameplay, there's busty girls in it so it makes it automatically shit for you.
But whatever, you're just shitposting and will continue to do so until another jap game catch your attention.
>>344689997
>And you're the kind of retard who put all japanese games in the same bag, and whine every time there's girls in it.
Go fuck yourself, I played and enjoyed plenty of Japanese video games you self important faggot, It's just after awhile you start noticing trends, trends like games getting shittier and devs resorting to underhanded tactics to make sales, and guess what your precious Japs do the same too, video games are fucking awful compared to that of yesterday, everything is just now mass produced, survey approved, shlcok, and I am mature enough to realize that even applies to my 'precious sjw proof jap devs', because guess what dipshit, a shit game is a shit game, and in the end of the day no amount of boobs will change that.
>>344683828
Why would things get heated on XSeed's forums? So another company got a Marvelous game. Why is this a big deal to people? XSeed can't publish every game that exists. Even if XSeed typically handles Marvelous titles, this doesn't mean they'll bring over everything. Plus isn't it a small company? Not like they could. They already have trouble releasing games on time.
>>344686140
Fuck you, Xseed is still a based company. They just don't have the manpower to release every piece of garbage pandering moe-fest.
>>344686140
XSeed has touched games that no other company in the West would ever think to bring over.
>Fragile Dreams
>Solatorobo
>Return to Popolocrois
If they went under, all the SUPER niche titles would likely get left in the dust. Valkyrie Drive already has a fanbase. I don't think anyone in the West was begging companies to release Solatorobo or Popolocrois
>>344690436
Not him, but have you actually played it?
>>344690436
>this whole post of a mature gamer like myself already played everything and now gaming is shit it was so so much better before
Thank you for the good laugh. If you're unable to take off your nostalgia googles, let's hope you still got some Amiga near you. But glad we agree that a shit game is still a shit game, which isn't the case of VD, but how would you know since you don't know anything about it and don't want to, except it has -oh the horror- girls, with -even more awful- big breasts.
>>344691087
Played Senran Kagura, does not give me much hope
Not to mention when does anyone on /v/ need to do THAT? When you written off a western game as shit before even playing you agree with it with your little precious group think because you have the brainpower of a potato
>>344691270
You are such a goddamn tool you know that
>which isn't the case of VD
Yeah, sure, what ever makes you feel justified in your purchase.
There are people who fucking defend that abimnation of a 'game' called Kantai Collection, the most market researched, play-it-safe, no risks insult to actual creativity this side of an American movie executive, do you expect me to trust THEIR judgement over my own? Weebs by anything, and that's the problem, without any sort of standards they feel safe to release just about anything and still make a net profit.
>>344692061
>Played Senran Kagura, does not give me much hope
>Not to mention when does anyone on /v/ need to do THAT?
So you haven't played it. Ever heard of the expression "don't judge a book by its cover"?
>>344692490
Ever heard the expression "Just because you spout kindergarden phrases does not mean you win a debate"
I've been created out of good money from shitty games because of this mindset and I think I have seen that the era of given games the benefit of a doubt have long since passed
Not to mention, I would just fucking love to see you try this defense with Battlefield 1, or Overwatch when it was getting released.
>>344693020
Never said anything of that sort. I'm just saying you're prejudging it from a glance instead of judging it from experience with it. It's perfectly fine if you don't want to buy it or try it but let's not pretend that either of our assessments hold much weight since neither of us has tried it yet.
>>344693779
I developed this prejudging because I have tried to be open minded on the subject and received nothing but half baked games, shoddy localizations, and shitty designs from both a game design standpoint, and character design standpoint, I am just as 'prejudging' as those who write off Mass Effect Andromeda as a wash, they are taught by experience that BioWare makes shit games, my experience has taught me Marvelous makes shit games.
>>344694231
>Marvelous makes shit games
Have you tried Return to Popolocrois?
>>344681424
Awesome! To bad its more anime shovelware instead of something that looks and plays good!
Daily reminder that Japanese law prohibits nipples from appearing in console games.
So there's nothing to censor anyway.
>>344681424
>own a fucking shop that sells videogames
>don't care about videogames
fucking classy business men not giving two shits about anything, I would be more qualified than their stupid arsehole selling that shit and yet I'm not even allowed to be a fucking cashier at their shitty shop because HURR DURR NO EXPERIENCE TAPPING NUMBERS ON A REGISTER
>>344694693
>So there's nothing to censor anyway.
- Panty shots by the dozen.
- Final Stage transformation have the girls naked, no nips of course, to form the weapon.
That's worth a censor by any sjw.
>>344681424
>all that work just to get a game on a fucking shelf
Japan there is this thing called Steam, 99% of the planet uses it except Japan, fucking USE it you stupid fucks, you literally have to pay a one time fee of 60$ and then you can publish games for eternity there, fucking idiots.
>>344689369
are you braindead, this game is 2 times slower and even runs at 30fps
>>344681424
pc when
>>344686140
>>344681424
Well thats a sale from me, one of all 100 vita owners in the world.
>>344695000
Sadly Japan doesn't seem to be big into PC gaming. Hopefully someday. Steam existing does seem to be helping increase the market for PC games over there, at least. Apparently CH's Neptunia games are going to start being released over there on PC, which is new since for some reason a lot of companies lock their PC ports to every region but Japan. So there is hope.
Literally the saviors of gaming.
>>344695000
>Pccuck tears
>>344685807
Who cares as long as SJWs get rekt?
>>344695521
This pic is actually 100% accurate as far as publishers go. Nice.
>>344695576
Please don't platform war shitpost. What he's saying WOULD at least alleviate some of the difficulty in getting a game published.
So why was #FE censored?
>>344695118
Agreed. FPS is not the strongsuit of this game.
>>344695308
>Not importing it
Even if you don't know Japanese, it's an action game. The amount you need to know in order to get going isn't much. The other stuff like chaining aerial attacks would need some explaining/thorough experimentation though.
>>344695857
NoA oversaw the project, it wasn't Atlus' fault.
>>344690704
Those who bitch feel XSeed should bring every Marvelous title ever, because, well, XSeed is quite literally Marvelous USA.
They really can't handle everything though, they bring games from other companies as well.
>>344686905
So this is what you do all game again huh. you watch shitty cutscenes, boring dialogue. then you play the game. By play i mean you just keep pressing square to automatically attack everything. oh and you can press triangle to for another automatic special kill. why are weebs so tasteless and pathetic? is this really what 25+ years of no positive experience leads to? unironically going on the internet and saying this junk is good and worth spending $40 on? fucking hell. weebs are just the other side of the tumblr western cartoon coin.
>>344695470
Japan is pretty big into pc gaming. A couple big mmos but there's a lot of indie stuff and VNs. Many VNs, VNs as far as the eye can see, 99% of them are garbage.
>>344695000
You know you could just replace steam with PSN and get the same point across without platform war bullshit covering your post right?
>>344696330
How does mentioning Steam suddenly make it platform war bullshit? He might've just forgotten that other online digital stores exist, or maybe he doesn't know how PSN works, or maybe he's just mentioning his preferred online store and not covering all bases.
>>344696120
>So this is what you do all game again huh.
Damn, you wouldn't enjoy a single video game if you were born in eighties and Arcades were all the rage.
>>344696025
Since XSeed is Marvelous USA, for a game to be published by a third party, that also means XSeed turned down the game. Which I imagine is also part of why people are annoyed.
>>344696289
"Indie stuff" and VNs are niche as fuck, that's the opposite of being into PC gaming.
>>344695521
>no rising star
>>344696912
Rising Star has been very inactive the last few years anon.
>>344696825
Gaming is niche as fuck in japan anymore unless it's on a cell phone.
>want to support boobies and Xseed
>but I don't want to support shitty gameplay
Help
>>344697335
This isn't published by xseed though.
>>344697335
Have you played the game yet?
>>344696825
>VNs are niche as fuck
Not in Japan.
VNs and Eroge from major companies cost as much as any "normal" game there, not even $60, but full $70 bucks for big titles; only smaller stuff that goes around $15 to $30.
>>344681424
An actual translation house that doesn't lie about how the ESRB forced them to cover up a mid driff or swimsuit?
Looks like a job for the Atlus/8-4/NoA Assassination squad
>>344696787
Or they didn't want to do a competing titty action game to compete with their already fairly popular in the west despite being extremely niche titty action game.
>>344686151
Because the kind of white people who learn japanese for a living are the exact same beta males that crumble under any pressure from women and feminists and who orbit them on social media.
>>344697548
8-4 may be shit, but I don't think they have pulled the "ESRB forced our hands!" card before, not that I remember at least.
- NISA
- Idea Factory International
- Atlus USA
- Ghostlight (for PEGI)
Were the ones used this excuse before.
>>344697335
Buy it on sale so you support it but not too much then.
>>344697792
Idea Factory International no longer uses that excuse and has reformed itself to be a better company though.
http://nichegamer.com/2015/12/05/idea-factory-will-no-longer-localize-games-which-need-censoring-for-western-regulations/
They've already proven this to a degree, as they have chosen to not release the game MeiQ: Labyrinth of Death in Australia, as it would require censorship there, as the game was rated RC in Australia thus banning it from an uncut release.
>>344696289
like nekopara, fucking furry shit.
>>344697460
Successful visual novels sell a few thousand copies, it's sales comparable to niche weebshit on Vita, unless we're talking fucking Fate and the like. They're far from being popular, the fact they're expensive doesn't mean anything.
>>344697618
That seems unlikely considering SK is pretty much dead at the moment.
>>344698348
Well, the fact that the market hasn't imploded yet is a sign of stablity at least. Every year, every month there's new stuff.
>>344698276
Kemonomimi and furries aren't the same thing. Catgirls are not furries.
Nekopara is not furry shit. (not that I'm against furry stuff but its not the same thing). Also Nekopara exists primarily to be tittilating, and as that is its main goal, I don't think it should be held to an extremely high standard.
i'll buy the steam release
>>344698485
>only a year without a new game
>less than 6 months since last localization
>dead
>>344698742
It's not dead-dead but it's been over a year with no new announcements whatsoever. The point being that even if a SK game were to be announced soon, it wouldn't be out in English before something like 2018, and it would never compete with VD in any way.
>>344699243
>with no new announcements whatsoever.
Let the fucking series rest, Takaki is broadening his horizons.
SK can only be considered dead when Takaki gets fired from Marvelous.
>>344699389
I'm fine with it taking a break, especially after EV. All I'm saying is that the idea that XSEED isn't touching VD for fear of it competing with SK makes little sense.
>>344698485
>game isn't yearly rehashed
>dead
k
>>344683828
Xseed blown the fuck out
>>344697792
8-4's just a translation agency. They just do what their clients tell them as far as changes for ratings boards go.
Well I guess that's a lie now -- 8-4 has been doing some Japanese-market publishing lately (e.g. Rogue Legacy on Japanese PSN) and has to think about CERO ratings on their own.
But I don't think 4chan cares about that. They don't publish in English, anyway.
>>344698695
>not having high titillation standards
>>344700780
>8-4's just a translation agency. They just do what their clients tell them as far as changes for ratings boards go.
I'm fucking sure IniCreates did not demmand Gunvolt's original release butchering.
>>344681424
>will be brought to the west in its original form, with content completely intact. It will be with a Japanese dub and English subtitles.
This right here is the kind of localization I support. This should be the only acceptable way to localize a game.
Don't give me this "cultural differences" bullshit excuse.
I barely care about this Valkyrie Drive game but I will support it once it comes out by buying a copy at full price. Maybe even 3 or 5 copies.
I doubt it will make that much of a difference but they deserve it.
>>344701693
I would've liked it if they went the extra mile and gave it an English dub and released it with dual audio. Maybe a French dub too with triple audio.
I realize its niche as fuck so that's probably too much to expect but it'd make the localization even more appealing to me.
>>344701981
>I would've liked [...] an English dub
Do you enjoy eating shit?
BASED
>>344701981
High Impact Sexual Violence games never get dubs.
I don't recall a single time these same VAs you hear on pretty much in weeb localization moaning in games where girls moan.
>>344702192
Girls look too similar, save 2 or 3.
I'd rather have the anime cast.
>>344681949
just use the internet to go around them
we don't need retailers anymore
>>344683828
>We're not competing with PQube or Aksys or Mastiff or anyone else -
gayest shit I've ever heard
business is competition
>>344695521
>aksys
yeah, I would have agreed before they went on Twitter saying that everyone will get their games on release day and have the watches sent out at a later date
Which was a complete and total lie.
Still no ZTD here.
![[Commie] Valkyrie Drive ~Mermaid~ - 06 [BD448588].mkv_snapshot_19.48_[2015.12.15_15.18.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ABAiH78.jpg "[Commie] Valkyrie Drive ~Mermaid~ - 06 [BD448588].mkv_snapshot_19.48_[2015.12.15_15.18.04].jpg")
>>344686284
>>You guys are not going to buy this just because of boobs right?
no. I'm buying it because it looksfun
>>344700917
Wasn't the PC release changed precisely because IniCreates was annoyed about the Xe, Xer crap?
>>344702192
They look so boring.
>>344702385
This. Much as I like just going to a store and picking up a copy, I can think of the number of Vita games I have bought at retail on a single hand, and I have a decent number of games for the thing.
>>344702787
Precisely, that and fans catching onto the butchering.
It wasn't just the tranlation that seemed a bit off in the orignal 3DS release, 8-4 literally cut mid-stage dialogues and the mechanic for Gunvolt improving his relationship with his girl was all but cut, the bonus for starting a level on God Mode was made completely random.
>>344702116
I like playing games in my native language, generally speaking. Unless a dub is Type 0 tier or something, anyways. I know there are people who don't like that sort of thing; its just my preference and something I'd like to see. Its not necessary for me to enjoy this game, though it'd make me appreciate the localization even more. As long as its dual audio. If a game gets dubbed and is dub only then its still not an ideal release since some people would want the original language(such as yourself).
>>344702192
Most of those girls look like they'd fit into an Atelier game.
>>344701981
>english dubs
Now that I think about it I wonder if people straight up refuse working on uncensored games like that.
I mean I know not everyone acts like puritans but nowadays I can see some voice actress doing that.
Valkyrie Drive has better girls than Senran Kagura
>>344703278
Reminder that High School DxD, High School of the Dead, Rosario x Vampire, and Prisma Illya all have English dubs.
>>344702695
i'm going to buy it NEW because it's not SJW. it'd probably be lower on my buy list but i make it a point to support good devs and only buy SJW shit pre-owned
i feel really bad about buying disgaea 5 pre-owned. it was / is so good. i'm going to buy all the dlc to make up for it though
>>344703403
The characters from the VD anime yes. Wasn't too big of the cast in the VD game(except for Chang and Viola).
>>344702521
>not making gentlemen's agreements with other organisations to not compete in certain spheres of business
>able to make more money since you're not dedicating time and effort to fending off the competition
>don't have to compete on price or quality
The only people who suffer in that case are the consumers, and they can fuck off.
>>344703403
I dunno, I don't know anything about the Valkyrie Drive girls.
>>344683828
The butthurt over there is hilarious. Amerilel players mad that european publisher got something they wanted.
>>344703278
>if people straight up refuse working on uncensored games like that.
They refuse.
Many "lewd" anime that get dubs have the cast using stage names or are downright uncredited not to be associated with that "filth".
>>344703413
>Prisma Illya
>English dubs
I didn't believe you and looked it up. They all sound like 25 year olds.
>>344703403
Personality wise I don't know, but if >>344703403 is any indication, their desings aren't as varied as SK (outside of the big tits of course).
>>344683828
What the fuck is happening to Xanadu Next? I'm actually kinda waiting for that one.
>>344704125
Fuck, meant to say >>344702192
>>344703403
Nah, they look too samey, if only that had used the Anime cast.
>>344696025
at least marvelous let's other publishers published their games
bamco and SE won't let anyone release their games, and if they don't want to bring them over, we are all shit out of luck
>>344703403
>No Jewloli
>>344684338
Good, I enjoy being catered to.
>>344703403
Does VD have daidoji? If not, how can you say that it has a better cast?
>>344704440
>bamco and SE won't let anyone release their games
except gaijinworks, but that's worse than not localizing at all
>>344704601
Does dyke Daidouji counts?
>>344684338
Actually, there is more work when they have to change shit for non weebs.
For non weebs, gotta remove/change dialogue, change models, change back grounds, change art work, go back and forth with esrb.
For weebs it's just a decent translation with subs and going okay, it's rated T or M, cool.
>>344704601
>Daidoji
ButRyonais better
>>344703960
why don't they use these shows to train new talent?
>>344705038
This anon gets it.who /wanwan/ here?
>>344704142
it's being published by Aksys
http://thevitalounge.net/2016/07/05/tokyo-xanadu-is-coming-to-north-america-next-year/
>>344704927
how's the lingerie selection? I heard EV was pretty weak
>>344704601
It has a Daidouji that likes girls instead, >>344704927 she's DLC and a character straight from the Anime.
So I guess that really makes the Anime cast better.
>>344705150
>>344705038
VD just can't compete
>>344705245
That's Tokyo Xanadu, not Xanadu Next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vef3Pdax-NM
>>344705263
Bhikkhuni has a stupid amount of lingerie, more than 150 and with pretty interesting designs
>>344704927
The graphics in this look a lot better than Shinvoi Versus at least
>>344705637
Looks like the girls are cuter and don't have the same copied and pasted bodies for each of them too
>>344705738
>>344704927
Where's her muscles? Is she obsessed with getting stronk?
>>344704927
HER TITS ARE NOT NEARLY BIG ENOUGH THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
>>344706749
>>344704142
>>344705464
It's a 2005 PC game, did you think they were just going to release it as is? They need to update it for modern systems, and presumably it is taking longer than they expected.
>>344707951
Every time XSeed brings a game to PC they take a long time on it. It always takes longer than expected for some reason. Corpse Party had this problem before it, and Trails before that. They also made this same claim for Little King's Story
