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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMbOBWS6ySc
Are you excited /v/?
(also warframe thread)
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I haven't played since the rocket league update, is it fun?
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>>344630805
People say it is but it's just a waste
Archwing is still garbage
The void changes are nice
Starchart 3.0 felt rushed and is a fucking mess other then that the game is still a 6/10 at best
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>>344630358
A singular piece of corn in a large sloppy turd designed only to piss away your time.

Enjoy your grindframe.
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>>344630805


If you are new of course it will be fun, for sometime, but then you'll realize that it isn't as rewarding, and it's a grindfest,

the only reason or thing that makes people jump back on are the new story quests which are surprisingly fun and quests to unlock new warframes.
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>>344630358
I'm honestly surprised that this game managed to stay alive for so long. Anything nice the devs have added to the game ever has always been overshadowed my an endless sea of grind and bullshit.
Don't get excited about warframe. Just let it fuck off and die already. Except the porn. That can stay.
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Is Inaros worth the trouble?
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>>344635040
Nope. He's as good as dead
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>>344631036
>The void changes are nice

They eliminated key leeching.

It's more or less the same to get an item you want, but 100x harder to get ducat fodder

Instead of 4 people getting 4 random drops, 4 people now only get one drop, they just get to pick the one drop out of 4 options. Some of the options can be duplicates.

This system is objectively worse in every way
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>>344635552

Actually, everyone gets a drop of their choosing from the 4 that drop for the group. You can just change the item you got for a copy of your squad mate's if you like what they got better.
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>>344636538
Yes, everyone gets one item. In the previous version, every single person would get a copy of each of the 4 items that dropped.

It's the same randomness but now you get only a quarter as much.
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>>344636928

But everyone used to get one drop per milestone reached (waves, minutes, etc) didn't they? You can close a fissure and complete the mission in roughly the same time it would take to get one drop each. Or am I missing something about the way void used to work? I thought everyone just got a copy of each item that dropped per 5 waves or whatever.
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I quit after I've seen what materials I need in order to craft the Vauban prime. Fuck those fucking jews.
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>>344630358

>Warframe
>Boss fights
>Hyping up boss fights
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>>344635552
explain to me how this "choosing exactly what prime part you get" is worse that hoping to get the right part in 20 40 60 or more waves. its still grind, but its expiated grind.

im more pissed they killed draco.
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>>344637129
>But everyone used to get one drop per milestone reached (waves, minutes, etc) didn't they?

Yes

>You can close a fissure and complete the mission in roughly the same time it would take to get one drop each.

Yes, but then after that time, the second person in the group would run their key and everyone in the group would get a second reward, and then the third person in the group would run their key and everyone in the group would get a third reward, and then the fourth person in the group would run their key, and everyone in the group would get a fourth reward.

In the new system, you complete the fissure, it consumes the keys that each person is holding, so if you're in a full group it consumes 4 keys, and it spits out four rewards, and each person in the the group ONLY GETS TO PICK ONE SINGLE REWARD TO KEEP

To to emphasise that point and get it into your head

old system = 4 keys, 4 rewards per person, 16 rewards total

New system = 4 keys, 1 reward per person, 4 rewards total

The new system of choosing the reward you get is worthless, because the pool of rewards functionally the same as it was in the old system, you just only get to choose to keep one of them whereas previously you would just keep all of them.
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>>344637598
You don't choose what part you get. You are offered a choice out of the 4 rewards that were spawned by the keys. In the old system, you would get the same 4 possible rewards and you would keep all the rewards from all the keys instead of being limited to choosing just one.
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>>344637474
AREN'T YOU HYPED FOR ALL THIS INTERESTING BOSS DIALOGE?!?
I'M SCREAMING SO I AM AN EXCELLENT ACTOR!
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>>344630358
New player here. Why is that Warframe talking? What's up with the fuccboy starchild from mass effect? Aren't Warframes supposed to be badass space ninjas?
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>>344637614
do you realize, you dont all need to use the same relic right? it increases the theoretical chance of getting the thing you want, but only if everyone is on board. on top of that, thats assuming you use basic as fuck keys and dont put any effort into getting radiant keys.
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>>344637703
And yet you'd still have to run 60 minute T4 survivals a dozen times and still get nothing but fucking fusion cores and formas instead of that one singular thing you need
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>>344637614
If you can run a mission without equipping a relic what's stopping you from just grinding rifts with people who have keys and taking their reward?
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>>344637813

The warframe is a bad ass space ninja, the "starchild" is the operator, the people that control the warframes via some sort of synaptic link. The warframes themselves are alive but soulless. They exist with no purpose other than to be controlled by an operator. There are exceptions to this though.
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>>344638048

You need a relic to get any reward.
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Stopped giving a fuck when they changed the melee combat for the sake of console users
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>>344637813
Keep playing and keep away from spoilers

It's kind of too late now

I don't know, people shit on it a lot, but I thought the second dream quest where it is revealed that "tenno" are magic space fuccbois who remote-pilot the warframes was a pretty magnificently done story experience going into it completely blind, and I imagine it'll never be possible to have like a genuine emotional reaction / experience going into that knowing beforehand. I hate to see people get spoiled on that.

>>344637879
What if you've already got everything you want and just need ducats to buy Baro's overpriced bullshit? Primed mods actually affect gameplay, prime gear and weapons are more or less just skins. This is what I said in the original post, they made it very very slightly easier to get prime shit, at the cost of literally quadrupling the grind for ducats.

>>344637929
>implying fusion cores are worthless when you need like 400 r5 gold cores to max a primed mod

>>344638048
No relic, no reward
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>>344638282

This, I was the anon 3 posts up that answered your question but it was probably the best thing DE ever done with this game and it was an eye opener when it happened. Do not read the spoilers. Play the game.
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>>344630358
maybe becuase im old AF but im not excited for anything anymore...

specially not for this shit

thoose incompetent fucks can only and only make models, maybe animations
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>>344638056
Oh, Well, I guess that's still interesting as a plot point. Are all the "Tenno" basically children or can it be anyone? Is it implied the Tenno are "us"?
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>>344638282

>implying fusion cores are worthless when you need like 400 r5 gold cores to max a primed mod

This. Fusion Cores are the true reward of the game because they actually fucking advance your gameplay and you need literally thousands, maybe even 10's of thousands to ever truely be done.

Grats on your void loot you got a double of for the 60600606060606 time and even if you get what you're after there's a very high percentage chance that whatever it was is mastery fodder never to be touched again.
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>>344630358
Why the Dark Sector logo?

oh wait....
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>>344638591

I imagine there might be a few adults out there, first generation stuff maybe, I think "we" are meant to be the frames, and that's why the starchild talks directly to us instead of just saying crap.
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Honestly I stopped playing Grindframe the moment they did that bullshit "lol the tenno are actually space shotas/lolis xD get its like EVA what a tweest!"

With how tedious and grindy the game can get after a while, the somewhat interesting lore and plot is what keeps a lot of players going, myself included. But wow did they drop the ball with that stupid twist.
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>>344638849
I stopped playing when almost every new weapon needed another weapon as well as these stupid void crystals to build.
At least grinding Oxium was kind of bearable after they increased the number per drop.
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>>344638849
>posting the legit spoilers that people were literally just discussing in spoiler tags without using spoiler tags of his own
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>>344638802
>>344638591
That doesn't make any sense and is contested by the fact that the tenno is your customizable player avatar

We'll have to see where they go with that thing that happened right at the end of the second dream though, where your warframe acts on it's own to save you

>>344638849
I hear that complaint a lot, thankfully I am not a weeb and I never saw or heard of evangelion before people started talking about how DE ripped it off on /wfg/

>>344638947
I literally get like 10 of those crystals every time I go to the void and have never had anything to craft with them
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>>344639013
Get over it nerd, that revelation was a long time ago.
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I'm not excited anymore. Not after the clusterfuck of an update we just got and hearing about what the new frame will be like (4th ability makes you go Archwing mode in normal missions wow)
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>>344639348
>what the new frame will be like (4th ability makes you go Archwing mode in normal missions wow)

Wait what, that sounds genuinely amazing
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>>344637296
what the fuck did you use all that nitain for you clemlord
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>>344638282
>max a primed mod
What for, endgame is piss easy without primed mods or arcanes
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>>344639978
because literally the entire point of warframe is minmaxing as hard as possible

that's the game
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>download like 15gb
>play game for 10 minutes
>uninstalled

people play this shit?
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>>344639436

How does another Zephyr sound amazing?
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>>344640246
>being able to jump slightly higher vs being able to actually fly around in 6dof
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>>344640078
send help
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>>344640246
>Ship tileset or something equally claustrophobic with lots of shit for enemies to get flung behind
>Someone brings a Zephyr
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>>344640302

You can mod Zephyr to be airborne for quite awhile. Doesn't really matter though because at no point is any of that needed. There's no game mode, map, situation where flight of any kind is needed and that's one of the problems with Zephyr.
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>>344640471
Doesn't change that flying is fun, falling slowly is not.
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>>344639059

How doesn't it make sense though? I never said they weren't capable of acting alone, I said they were soulless.
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>>344640850

But you won't be flying, you'll be crashing into the terrain on 95% of the maps.
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>>344640850
Where does it say you'll be able to fly?
Maybe you'll just hover on the same place turret-mode, kinda like Mesa but instead of shooting people you'll have to throw butterflies and shit at them
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>>344642294

I hope so, this is what people wanted for chroma's ulti/augment and it is by far the worst Idea I've ever heard.
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>>344635040
He's good for nightmare missions, and people who run vault with the shield key.
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>>344635040
It's feels good to play with it
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>>344642294
yeah, most maps even have invisible volumes that teleport you back to ground, flying around is not supported
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>>344630358
The game is repetitive grinding only. If they toned down the grinding by 50%, I could actually love it.
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>>344635552
If everyone has a different fossil then the loot pool essentially quadruples.
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>>344638282
It's not as bad to get ducats as I first thought it would be, as while you can't get however many ducats from a single key, being able to choose your reward means you can pick whatever part has the highest ducat value, so you aren't stuck with "forma forma Ocells 10 ducats" RNG.

So you cant get as much ducat fodder per key but you've got a much better chance of getting good ducat fodder
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>>344644000
No it doesn't, retard
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>warfarm
>ever
>especially after they nerfed fast
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>>344646218
You can go faster now then you ever could with the helicoptering system though
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>>344647032
No
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>>344630358
I'm not playing until the improve the AI. The game gets monotonous as fuck.
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>>344630358
The game is a boring grindy waste of time whose community is infested by niggers.
But thats F2P for you.
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>>344640347
heh...
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>>344650073
Nigger is actually hard-filtered
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>>344641962
Warframe are similar to infestation, they are alive, but not as much as humans. So they have some capabilities of acting alone.
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>>344650764
There's also the Lephantis quote
>Why do you destroy us? We are your flesh.
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>grindframe

Why?
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>>344652896
Warfarm, anon
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>still giving the braindead fucks at DE the time of day

So much wasted potential
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People datamined the quest ages ago, it's more pointless garbage.

>grineer queens decide to attack you
>loltus loses connection to you
>teshin is upgraded to teshin dax
>he's a traitor!
>he reveals he led untrained tenno against wormships of the sentients, getting all those meat puppets killed
>potato takes control and command ordis to go somewhere that's obviously a trap
>ordis makes a rip and tear reference
>you get there, face teshin, use something on the queens to disable their control on him
>some shit happens and then lunaro is enabled or w/e
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>>344654745
>potato takes control
Please no, i'm sick of this cunt. Can't even make her look good
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So, wait, is it actually canon that you're playing as a person in a supersuit now?
I remember speculating that the Teno are living suits that once contained a human before they merged into one being, and various other ideas.

Now it looks like Nyx actually has a face under her helmet?
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>>344656053
No, you play as a child in a pod remote-controlling the suit
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>>344656053
The suits are made from the same shit the infested are, so they have some degree of autonomy. But you play as an "operator", effectively a tween psyker vegetable that got un-vegetable'd. Lore is kinda messy now as far as i recall since Rhino Prime's lore bit says that a mutated and crazed tenno had the suit built on him, and there's the whole Limbo and Mirage quests. Meanwhile, Ash Prime has a serial number so it's clear they produced multiples
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>>344656941
Says nothing like it

Red lights flashing on stark, white walls. Davis is running ahead of me, dropping his notes. We're running for our lives. The fear gives me a strange perspective - I'm out of my body. I've forgotten how I got here. I don't recognize this place.
Davis and I slam pinned against a cell door and he shouts at me. I give him a dumb look. I can't hear him, the sirens, anything, only the muffled throb of terror in my head. I turn away from Davis down the hall and I see it. The hulking mass, flickering red, glinting like steel and fresh blood. Its skin changes, flowing like mercury when I'm blinded by the sudden muzzle-flashes. They do no good. The beast surges forward and the security men become crimson mist and gore.
I'm a statue, a cornered animal. A gate opens inside me and recognition floods in. I have seen this monster before. I have cut its shell and eviscerated its brothers. I have given it pain and measured its response. I have crafted then rejected countless like it. But I've never seen this beast so close, without the shield, without restraints. I have never seen it... free.
I know I will die so I just watch with curious acceptance. The beast squats down, shovelling a heap of gore into its mouth. It is watching me with vague eyes, a sense of recognition, ancestral memory. It knows who I am and what I've done. It rears up like a bear and roars, shattering the lights and casting us into darkness. I can hear it lumbering toward me, its metal fingers rending the walls, but I know I am dead. I close my eyes and stand ready to pay.
I feel the pull on my arm and realize Davis got the cell open. He tugs me into the cell beyond and I fall on my back. I see Davis standing at the open door, waiting, as the monster tears towards us.
Suddenly I could live through this I shout, "Davis, close the goddamn door!" - But he shakes his head eyes wide as moons. He shouts, "Watch!" over the roaring and rending of metal.
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>>344657839
Then silence. Davis is panting, laughing? The beast fills the doorway, inches from him, dripping in blood, but still without violence. It stands there, looking at its hands. Davis whispers, "No one would have believed me."
I crawl up the wall to stand, opposite the door. I've never seen this cell, a cold place with an array of shelves. A morgue? "Where are we, Davis?"
"This is where they keep them. The ones from Zariman." I'm thrown, what was the Zariman? The ship that never returned? "Davis, what's going on?"
Davis turns to me, a smile forming - "What's going on is..." he turns back to the beast now silent and calm.
"...big, fat promotions."

>basically explains the discovery of the link between Tenno and their attempts to create and control infested war-monsters
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The fuckers haven't introduced new gameplay since ever, when they introduced that raid i was excited because i thought they finally were making the game more interesting, but it ended there, everything went back to the same grindy shit content. Game is only worth it if you like grind collecting games.
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>>344657839
>>344657989
That's the fresh lore. They've been dropping implications and lore over the years so fuck knows what's accurate now
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>>344635552
Is not, the old grinding mechanics was the real problem, honestly i dotn get why game devs keep implementig mechanics like that in games. Grinding is the greatest error in ideogame history
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>>344659778
It keeps people playing
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>>344659778
It's literally dynasty warriors in space
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>Evil Teshin
Dataminer was right after all.
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>>344630358

I recognize that tattoo!
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>>344660838
What the heck?
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>>344660864

what? never saw vidya references in H-manga?
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>>344661265
Only in author notes by hroz
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>>344635552
The old way did not involve 4 people getting 4 random drops, it involved 4 people getting the SAME random drop. This system's WAY better.
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>>344660838
I recognize Ivara when I see her.
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>>344660418
For some time yeah, i grinded alot, but why do you think they are trying so hard to change that?
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>>344661483
This is acting under the situation in which four keys are used in both scenarios.

Old way is 4 keys = 4 rewards per person = 16 rewards total. New way is 4 keys = one reward per person = 4 rewards total. This is LESS ITEMS with the EXACT SAME CHANCE OF ACTUALLY GETTING THE ITEM YOU WANT.

Retards like you who somehow fail to comprehend this filling up the forums with praise for the devs are killing this game.
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>>344656941
>Limbo and Mirage
A friend and I have a theory that it's quite possible for the Teen-o to die from shock if the warframe takes too much damage. That, combined with the warframes potentially being designed around the original Teen-o's natural void powers make it possible that the original Limbo and Mirage both died.
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>>344635040
Do you like: Having a shit ton of bonus armor
Letting you and your friends get health by eating an enemy?
Having a 3 that works for 2 seconds but throws everything away
Pocket Sand

Then get him. He's a pretty solid tanky frame with the best survivability in the game.
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>>344661867
Doesn't Lotus outright say that Mirage died?
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>>344630358

Shit game. Owned by a gook media conglomerate that forces DE to develop for the Chinese audience which collectively has no taste. Shit balance. Little real content. Awful story. Total grindfest. You probably just started playing, enjoy it while you can because everybody eventually quits the same way: throwing the game away in utter disgust.

It was fun in early open beta, it's shit now.
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>>344662056
Yes
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>>344661751
16 rewards doesn't mean much if there's only 4 unique rewards though.

The higher oppurtunity to get something you and your friends want is higher in this situation because drop tables can differ but the mission can be the same one at the same time. Quantity means nothing if you're all getting the same thing.
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>Still giving more screentime to potato kids
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>>344662419
Atleast the face blending allows to make something less potato
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>>344662208
Quantity means everything in a system where you need spare shit to sell for ducats to trade for primed mods that are incredibly powerful
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>coptershitters still mad their broken system got removed

the butthurt is delicious
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>>344662624

Fuck that, just give me the option to put the mask back on
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>>344662208
But there's only 4 unique rewards in the new system also

It's like if you ran four keys in a group but ran a different key each time. The difference is that you would keep the shit the other people got, which might be something incredibly valuable.

>>344662735
This. The zariman spacesuit mask looks great.
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>>344662634
There's a difference between hunting for an item and hunting for ducats though. This system is way less time consuming and better for those hunting specific items.

It is worse for getting ducats, I'll agree to that. But in my opinion I don't think that makes it worse than the original system.
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>>344662671
>Wanting to go slow
I bet you don't even know how to copter across the map at the speed of sanic
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>>344662169
You forgot to add that none of the developers play their own game except Becca, and no one listens to her anyway. They constantly balance the game the way they think it should play, and if you find out a better or more fun way of doing things they'll nerf your favorite frame or mission type to the ground.
Still haven't done anything about the fact that the only progression comes from mods. A guy who's played the game for 200 hours without max serration, multishot, heavy impact is exactly as powerful as someone fresh off the boat. Or that they try to push utility mods despite refusing to make any of them worthwhile outside of gimmicky weapons. Like why on earth is the plain status mod a 12.5% bonus to inflict status effects when each of the status+element mods gives you 45%, over 120% extra status chance because you're going to use them together. Others are even worse, like adding 2 extra bullets before you have to reload at the cost of 8 mod points.
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>>344662815
Okay, I'm starting to understand where you're coming from, actually. But I still have to admit I'm enjoying the fact that it's way less time consuming than 20 minute survivals/4 interception waves/20 defense waves.

I can't say i think of this system as worse, but I think i get why others don't like it now.
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>>344652896
cause there are no other action games like it with constant updates and social elements
oh wait, there is one on console, but it costs 100$+ cause upates are 40$ each and it has even more grind and less cool stuff
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>>344662997
>He can't comprehend the new movement mechanics to go fast

sorry you cant slide dash with your shitty zorens anymore chump. coptering was cancer, deal with it
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>>344658293
b-but loonaro...
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>>344662882
>better for those hunting specific items

Getting 4 randomly generated items and only keeping one of them is better then getting 4 randomly generated items and keeping all of them?
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>>344663078
Nice try, Rebecca fag. All she does is "moderate the forums", put on a twitch stream once a week and suck steve's cock for cash.
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>>344663306
You don't need all of them if you're hunting for a specific one and none of them are what you want.

It's worse for ducats, better for chances at things you want. I said this already.
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>>344662671
>quit before it was even removed to play better games instead
>slowfags still play this piece of trash and keep getting fucked in the ass by DE
Came here to laugh at you
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>>344663509
Don't need whiny faggots like you shitting up the game, nothing of value was lost
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>>344630358

I left when they got rid of coptering. I returned every once in a while to try to discover new ways to fast, but they were never as good or as versatile.

How is the new star chart, is it as big an unmitigated disaster as the last one? Fuck the liset.
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I miss the glory days.
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>>344630358
I want to like this game, the gameplay isn't bad at all..

But the progression is so shit...

I mean what's the fucking point? Game asks you to grind for a weapon that will allow you to grind again..
At least in most MMOs once you get the equipment you wanted you can use it in PvP and then the game doesn't revolve around grinding for gear but around skill instead.

Here in Warframe it's only the grinding part without the fun at the end. It desperately need a competitive aspect.
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>>344663435
But what if you get parts you also don't have but weren't actively looking for from the other keys?
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>>344663661
>Don't need whiny faggots like you shitting up the game
Yeah, you have DE for that. Enjoy eating shit.
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So what's the best way to get relics?
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>>344663721
It's pretty damn messy. It's also buggy and not working sometimes. Playable if you've done a lot of the map already but not so much if you didn't.

My biggest gripe is that i always zooms in on a planet first despite the fact that you can zoom all the way out.
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>>344663816
That's probably one of the worst situations you can be put in when you're using the new system. Having more than one reward you want. That's when the flaws of this system are really shown and I'll agree that it really sucks if this happens.
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>>344663178
>He can't break the game for speed
>He thinks new movement is fast
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>>344663890
relics=keys
you get them same as before
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>>344663890
Same way as getting keys. Excavations and stuff.
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>>344663178
>coptering was cancer
How?
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>>344663890
Spy missions. I like Hapke on Ceres, complete it in about 2-3 minutes as Loki.
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>>344630358
Dropped it when the big reveal that
you're an autistic space child.
Seriously, why?
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>>344664260
Because it made shitters feel bad.
:^)
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>>344663178
Coptering was the shit. I'm sorry you never got to experience it
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>>344664106
>shitter cant learn anything new
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>>344664396
I gotta agree it was pretty fucking great.

I've gotten used to being as fast as I am now though. There are still a few neat tricks you can pull.
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>>344664292
So they can sell more customization options in their outrageously overpriced shop.
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>>344663767
Are warbros still around?
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>>344664364
>it made shitters feel bad.
Nothing like catering to the lowest common denominator
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>>344664451
>He's still trying to bait something
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>>344664530
Ever since the free market showed up racking up plat's a breeze, though. Especially with everyone scrambling to figure out prices due to the new void changes. Easy jewery all around, goy.
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>>344664685
there is nothing to bait, you already admitted being a rage-quitting shitter who cant learn
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>>344664260
It was a broken mechanic that was not slide attacking with melee's original purpose which also screwed with the pace of the game. It's amazing how people are blind to this.

>>344664396
Not experiencing it and choosing not to use it are two different things
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>>344664260

Because shitters didn't want to give up their precious melee cosmetic slot to go fast, and complained that people who coptered finished the entire stage before they got there with nothing left to do.
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>Grind things so that you can grind more things to get more things you can grind
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>>344664825
You should study psychology with such mad analytical skills
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>>344664773
>participating in DEs economy to make them more money
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>>344664540
A broken shell of its former self, less then 20 active members. Wiawyr getting banned and then perma-ragequitting on principle was the beginning of the end.
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>>344665019
So long as I'm not the one giving them money, I don't care. I've put so little effort into this game and i can average over 200 plat a week.
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How do Void Sabotage missions work with the changes?
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I just utterly stopped caring in an instant after the psychic kid shit was revealed.

Am I the only one that feels this way? I sat through a lot of shit that sucked because I thought the game would get better but after that reveal I just uninstalled the game and haven't felt an urge to try it again since.
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>>344665495
>the psychic kid shit
What?
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>>344665005
>deny everything and post le smug animu face

gg, shitter
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>>344665169
>Less than 20 active members
>We were warframe's first big clan too
Does anyone still have the original image of the 6th event in that picture?
It made for a pretty bad ass phone wallpaper back when I played the game
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>>344634493
it's not bad, but it could be better
the porn that is
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>>344665495
I liked the implication that the Warframes themselves were thinking, savage monsters that you just lulled into sleeping while puppeting them.

Then your Warframe wakes up and smacks the shit out of Stalker.

At least it put to rest all the stupid "the warframes are just people in suits!" discussion. I like my monsters as monsters.
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>>344665572
You don't play as the warframe itself, you play as a psychic child controlling it. They give you a voice actor and everything, which you can mercifully turn off.

It instantly made me go from vaguely interested in the unsolved mysteries to "all hope is lost." I guess that's largely because I've always thought the lotus was shady as fuck and didn't like her, and watching this ugly little kid spout FOR THE LOTUS during a mission was just like naw nigga i'm done
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>>344665495
It always had shit for lore so why care. But you did the right thing anyway, its not getting better.
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>>344631595
/thread
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>>344665495
The autistic space child thing was not really that much of a reveal, it was hinted upon time ago since you could make any number of suits and swap between them but was disappointing overall since they went for the easiest explanation which is human and some link.

Other theories were magical space dust or energy.

Some of the lore is quite good but really half of it is not even consistant and is just a mess.
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>>344665812
I'm so glad I quit. After the clusterfuck after the Fomorian core shit and coptering got removed, I knew it was only going to get worst.

Did see Rebecca's tit cave though.. Was nice.
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>>344665791
God damn, i want that as an operator
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>>344665819
Because the art design was cool, the universe had this almost surrealist mystery going for it early on, and I liked how the story actually progressed with time- I guess I'd kind of subconsciously make up my guy's reactions to all the shit going on and I thought it was fun.

It was a combination of the fact that the idea that voiced protagonist=better story makes me livid and it was a really stupid idea, to boot. They have all this stuff about the "original" frames having their own personalities in the lore and there's a SHITLOAD of fan stuff providing characterization for each of the suits, it's just lazy and disappointing.
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>>344665495
I thought it was the best thing that ever happened to the game

The moment where you approach the pod and your frame collapses was one of the most intense things I have ever experienced in a videogame, the sheer awe of it

And then you get up and you're like OH MY GOD WHAT IS HAPPEN HOLY SHIT I CAN SHOOT HYPER BEAM OUT OF FOREHEAD WHAT
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>>344665169

RIP Warbros. They were number one.
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>>344666260
What about it was awe-inspiring? It's cool that they did something that shook up your interface and stuff I guess but the actual twist itself is fucking stupid
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>>344666075
someone get the webm
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>>344666435
The grand revelation after literal years of speculation and theoreycrafting, how completely unexpected it was, and the whole experience in general was very well paced, built up a lot and did not disappoint. Boss battle was interesting and hype.

Probably helped that I had never seen or heard of evangelion before that point other then a vague notion of being some anime with mechs or something.
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>>344666181
>All the operator faces are terrible
>the hair, even the shit you pay for, is stupid
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>>344666194
I just reached a point when it all lost meaning and only grind remained so I couldnt care less if they put a dummy in my ship, of course I turned it off right away and pretty much forgot about it.
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>>344666802
you can merge faces now for a more unique appearance
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>>344666181
then go play tera, you pedo
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>Nyx
lmao who the fuck uses Nyx
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>>344667028
They had to pretend like girlscalibur was relevant at some point
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So what have you been playing instead once you quit this grindan?
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>>344667170
Nobody quits warframe. They just take breaks.
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>>344666194
I actually Alt+F4ed out when it gave me character creation because I just didn't want to do it and hoped that I could just undo the quest and not have to touch it ever, but they don't let you. You're stuck with it after they reveal it.

>>344666730
Just because they play it up as a grand reveal doesn't make it cool. It's like how people were hyped about Meet the Pyro since the very first Meet the videos started coming out for TF2 and it's just "haha pyro's crazy and loves rainbows and ponies haha" and the whole thing just feels like a total cop-out.

I didn't like how everything was being played so painfully straight through most of the new story stuff being added and wanted to see some curveballs, potentials to change allegiances, etc- and when it's revealed that you're a kid who sees the Lotus as a mother figure and can't be anything else that was fucking awful

also im-fucking-plying the boss battle was hype, the stalker fight beforehand was the same as anything else in that game and the laser shit in your ship was awful
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>>344666802
You can pull qts at times
>>344667170
Other grinds like Way of the samurai, Evolve, PoE and a shitton of Warband
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>>344667170
Destiny with /dg/.
Not a great game, but fucking around in raids and iron banana was really good fun.
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>>344667287
i was like that for awhile but i haven't played since the big stalker quest and i'm pretty happy with it

>>344667170
A lot of games, Overwatch, sporadic TF2 and Planetside 2, lately i've been trying to get into the TES games
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>>344630358
So how's a noob supposed to complete Mars Junction? It takes an eternity to find an alert on Earth.
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It's shit. Update is shit, game is shit, grind is ever increasingly worse, devs are shit becca is cute though, potato kids are the worst fucking thing ever and sorties don't give credits anymore so have fun grinding fucking CREDITS to rank up those mods.
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>>344667170
Backlog aside, PSO2. The only reason I played this shit was just because PSO2 was crashing on launch. Then I fixed it and never looked back.
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>>344666802
>pick one of the nigger faces
>give it white skin
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>344666996
Can you actually make that in Tera?
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>>344663340
>he hasn't watched the devstreams

most recently they were discussing inherent frame abilities, fatfuck said oberon's was going to be controlling wildlife, becca said she thinks that sounds like useless shit and fatfuck literally said "i think you're wrong"
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>Play for a month
>make dozens of weapons getting ready for steel meridian weapons
>Draco is gone now

Fuck this game. Now I have 30 unranked weapons I can't level effectively. It's a slap in the face for not playing sooner.
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>>344667295
>Just because they play it up as a grand reveal doesn't make it cool

I thought it was cool though. I mean there was an element of "I kind of don't want to be a goofy looking little space fuccboi" but I got used to the idea and overall I like the operators and the focus system, even turned on the operator voices that are off by default because I like having a player created avatar even if it looks retarded

I thought the zariman and the tenno were a pretty big curveball, I had not even the slightest idea that that was going to be the story and it caught me very much by surprise
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>>344667557
>trading 1 grind for another

I hope you enjoy your weapon that will take you 20 million meseta to reach full potential only for it to get outclassed in a month.

I bet you're an ERP loving ship 2 fag who's in the discord chat.
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>>344667669
They really should just put rebecca in charge of everything.
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>game is a gigantic grindwall
>every time somebody finds a way to grind efficiently the devs nerf into the ground

Same thing with weapons and frames, which is ultimately why I quit. Every time something is good, it is made bad so that you have to grind longer.
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>>344667845
But she's already in charge of having an absolutely bangin' body
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>>344667845
Did she get a boob reduction or does she wear a padded bra most of the time? I swear her tits looked fatter before the boob slip
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>>344667170
07scape
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>>344667505
The alert doesn't need to be on earth.

>>344667756
>muh grind spot
just go grind out a survival with friends or something. Quit being such a whiny baby about not having your 0-30 meme location.
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>>344667845
she's really good at her job, much better than any other buffoon on the devstream. too bad she's usually just reduced to tits
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>>344667807
>20 million meseta
Not really.
>to get outclassed in a month
Nah.
>ERP loving
Nope.
>ship 2 fag
Nuh uh.
>in the discord chat
Try again.

>being this buttblasted over nothing
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>>344667998
She just lost weight overall
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>>344668067
How do you lose weight FROM YOUR TITS
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>>344667028
I use nyx when I don't really want to fight enemies. Cast chaos, mind control a high damage mob, and just fap to nyx's delicious body while the game plays itself.
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>>344667958
Oh please, she's doughy and has a small rack, like two deflated balloons. We've all seen them.
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>>344667663
there is dedicated pedo-bait class
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>>344668095
Do fat people not get larger boobs and moobs as they gain weight? Therefore why would losing weight not reduce it?
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>>344668010
>The alert doesn't need to be on earth.
Ah, gotcha. Gonna go the Venus route until an alert appears or take a taxi if I get to upgrade my shitty Braton.
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Oh god, I forgot they made the Tenno a bunch of pre-teen faggots remote piloting Warframes like a shitty anime.
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>>344668165
She went from like C cup to...nothing
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>>344660838

I actually had no idea that tattoo was from Warframe until the comments started rolling in.
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post more becca
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>>344667295
The tenno were pretty cool to start with, too. Like don't lie, that's part of the appeal of the game. You're a mute alien monster martial artist hitman looting and pillaging great empires across the universe. Your reasons for doing shit are whatever reasons you want. That's a genuinely cool idea! You're freakish abominations doing crazy shit for profit.

Forcing the player to be an ugly human child who's optimistic and loyal to this shady robot woman is just the worst.

>>344667784
>I like having a player created avatar
Nigga that's your frame, that's what accessories and gun customization and color schemes and all that shit was for. I saw my Excal as me, not that little potato baby in the basement.

What I really wanted to see happen were more options to strike out on your own, do things that the Lotus doesn't sanction, give the player a bit more freedom even if it was fake freedom. They gave you a few hints of choice in stuff like the faction warring system and the joinable dudes that are like "the tenno following the lotus are ignoring their true potential" and stuff. The reveal was basically the opposite of that, straight up telling you "this game is about the lotus, she's the big main character. You're following her until the end, and not getting a choice in it." Hated it.

I mean shit, what I thought was cool about warframe's storytelling is that you were just one tenno of many. I didn't mind some of the cinematic storytelling, but I liked that overall it was about the many tenno, not just you.
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>>344668375
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>DE finally does something good and makes excalibur an excellent frame
>fucking retards calling for nerf cause now he's on the same level, if not stronger, than their favorite press 4 to win frame
DE is largely incompetent but I will never hate them as much as I hate the mouth breathing shitheads who play their game.
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>>344667845
>>344667958
>>344668375
>>344668567

L O N D O N

...Canada
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>>344668697
I like pressing 4 to win
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>>344668697
press 4 to win frames need to be nerfed as well
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>>344668697
>mfw DE's big community board-of-directors thing they have on the forums voted to put in a generic edgy transforming sword/whip in over a grineer drill-fist

Free to play communities are just the fucking worst, Planetside was ruined by tryhards too
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>>344667958
that ain't becca
get that /b/ shit outta here

>>344668067
yeah it's a crying shame
hopefully she'll be back to optimal THICC soon
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>>344668892
I think they need to get away from ults that are just flat damage dealers.
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>>344668556
>Nigga that's your frame, that's what accessories and gun customization and color schemes and all that shit was for

Yeah I've never used any of that, what's the point in having primed warframes and gear if you don't rep the white and gold uniform? Also the little armor addons universally look like shit.

The only tenno who go on about not following the lotus are the arbiters of hexis, who are nice dudes and it's more about self-improvement then them thinking the lotus is misleading us.

Also you DO have the ability to work for other factions, several of the missions and the entire system of "pick a side for rewards" events is about that.

There was theoreycrafting by the playerbase about whether Lotus has the Tenno's best intentions at heart, and the second dream just took a moment to say that Space Mom loves you and actually betrayed her own race to protect you.
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>>344668928
>tfw not shortstack becca gf
just fucking kill me
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>>344668697
>shitters who dont know how to play crying about irrelevant change
>mouth breathing shitheads who play their game
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>>344635040
Literally the best tank frame in the game. If you enjoy soloing T4's then go for it.
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>>344669290
what did he mean by this?
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>>344669226
>Calling Lotus "Space Mom"
Fuck that, Lotus is creepy as fuck.
What kind of mother uses her children as soldiers of fortune, butchering people by the masses with their bare hands?

Primes are by and large hideous and I don't even bother using them. Game's easy as heck with normal gear unless you're going for obscenely long grinds at top level survival and shit, anyway.

You can't work for them in any meaningful sense. I remember Warbros would go on and on about wanting to just straight up defect and work for grineer if they had the opportunity, and the second dream just says "yeah no, you're working for her and you're working for her forever. No plot twists."

I guess a lot of it is that Lotus is just so obnoxious, shady, and honestly pretty creepy in your brief interactions with her that being told that your character adores her and that'll be the end of it was the end for me.
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oh boy, time to play warframe and get a volt prime while using my new rapier
>realize I'd have to farm for relics
>then farm void tears to get void bux to get a slightly better chance of getting volt parts
>realize when I finally get a volt prime I'll have to grind to level him, then use forma, and level him again
>realize to make the rapier usable I'd have to grind to level it
>then farm for the stance mod
>then use forma on it and level it again
I don't want to play warframe anymore
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>>344669428
you have no idea what you talking about and only look at his high HP value
tanking is shit for highlevel and even as a tank he is not that good
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>>344669936
Nothing below a level 250 bombard eximus can take him down, your opinion is worthless.
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>>344669668
>dude I wish we could work for grineer xD
I'm glad all you meme loving fucks got cucked to death by DE.
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>>344669668
No space mom is great and guides us towards fun gameplay and good loot

I view primes as the only gear worth using, since if you invest time, effort, and forma into non-primed gear then they release a primed version later you end up with an inferior weapon. I really like nekros but I haven't even built him, waiting for the prime version which is actually coming next, it's gonna be great.

The point is you're not in any way bound to the lotus, in gameplay OR in lore. You're a free agent and can do whatever missions you want for whoever you choose. True a good 80% of the missions in the game are lotus missions but you can still choose not to do them if you want to be pedantic about it.

The only thing shady about space mom was how she seemed completely dedicated to the wellbeing of the tenno and we didn't understand her motive for that before the second dream.
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>>344669929
>to make item usable I'd have to grind to level it
but you dont, you can put on a bunch of mods right away according to your rank, and levelling item takes very short time in intercepts

but the game is still same grindan, so stay away
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still cant get around the fact that the badass space ninjas are actually fuckbois
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>>344670125
you've never seen those levels. Inaros gets blown away by lvl100s in T4, tanking is not working with infinitely scaling damage eneimes, while invis remains god-mode forever, dummy
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>>344670419
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>>344670409
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>>344670707
lotus is THICC
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>>344670149
i don't want to work for grineer lel, i'm just saying the desire was there.

>>344670183
space mom is shite, she's a boring character with awful voice acting.

i don't care about primed gear at all because I don't go as deep as the ridiculous level 200 survival grinds, I do the story shit, events, new bsoses when they come out, that's it. Grinding is a waste of everyone's fucking time in a co-op game.

No, you're completely bound to the Lotus. She's always your mission control even if you're doing shit like grineer or corpus missions, you're always working under her good graces. If you turn on your Operator, he'll often yell about fighting for her.

Naw though man it isn't weird at all how a quote unquote motherly figure uses you as a soldier of fortune to kill literal hundreds of thousands.
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>>344670893
>She's always your mission control even if you're doing shit like grineer or corpus missions

Except for the multiple missions where Darvo is your mission control and lotus has literally nothing to do with anything, like the Clem mission
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>>344670893
>uses you as a soldier of fortune
So far lotus doesn't have any motivation other than keeping the tenno safe and helping them down whatever path they chose. There have been more than a few instances where she just tells you to pick what you want when given the choice.
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Have DE ever gave out the option for a wipe like they promised in the beta?
Kinda want a fresh start.
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>>344671074
I almost mentioned the Darvo Missions but they're fleeting and you only do them once. I would go so far as to say over 95% of the missions you do over your total gametime are going to be lotus missions.

>>344671137
Bullshit, she uses them as means to an end constantly in the actual game beyond the few story missions there are.
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how tall is rebecca?
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>>344671204
The latest patch essentially is a fresh start, have to re-clear the starchart

There was also the option for an account reset like over a year ago, but why the fuck not just make a new account, what a complete waste of all the resources and shit you gained earlier

Also the new player experience in warframe is one of the worst, the rate at which you can unlock shit is mind-breakingly slow and grindy
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>>344671412
she's perfect
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>>344671412
How tall is true love?
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>>344671317
>she uses them as means to an end constantly
Most of what she sends you to do is beneficial to the tenno though.
>kill this target because they're dangerous to the tenno
>steal this data because it's dangerous to the tenno
>rescue this person because they're an ally of the tenno
>defend this cryopod because it has a warframe, or something
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>>344671412
To be fair, Geoff is practically a basketball player
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>tfw becca will never cosplay as mag for you and use pull on your dick
why live?
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>>344671896
Definitely not always, though. She asks you to save random settlements and kill people that aren't necessarily directly threatening tenno from time to time, iirc.
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>>344672427
I haven't played in a long time so I can't remember everything precise, anyway. I definitely remember Lotus asking you to do some dicey things from time to time. Maybe not.
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>>344630358
>literally *unsheathes katana*

jesus christ, video games are so embarrassing.
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>>344671443
Because of the plat.
Also because so much shit has changed, my account date back from the closed beta, so shit's all over the place.
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>excited for GrindFrame
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>>344630358
still no content DE amazing!
warbros #1 for now and forever
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>>344665169
ork is still around with warbros prime
warbros no fun allowed is the shitter clan
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>>344635040
His quest is easy as shit you have no reason not to do it
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Not as embarrassing as your life.

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>the original clan
>the one that has all the statues and awards of our greatness from the first event onwards
>the "shitter clan"

That division truly is the most retarded thing to happen since wia left
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