How were you supposed to know that you could jump into the wall?
It shimmers like the paintings do.
6 year olds figured this shit out anon.
>>344546456
how were you supposed to do anything?
they literally expected you to pick up some "controller" and "play"
wtf
>>344546456
How were you supposed to know how to scuttlebug transport?
It happens as an accident when you're chasing Mipps.
You just fucking do If you're a kid.
Maybe it's just me, but a barren wall with nothing on it looks suspicious.
How were you supposed to know about parallel dimensions?
it does waves when you walk near it
>>344546456
you were not!! you were supposed to explore and try everything
>Run into wall
>See ripple
>"Oh the paintings do that also!"
>Jump in
Wasn't there a rabbit that jumped in there?
>>344548135
Why would run into a wall to begin with? That's impossible to figure out. Just admit it.
>>344548373
>No room in the game is just a hallway with a dead end
>This one is
How is that not suspicious in the slightest, plus the rabbit runs back there when you're chasing it to hide and there's an extremely high chance you're going to dive into that wall while trying to dive grab it in case you really aren't the curious type.
>>344546456
By chasing the rabbit and diving in by accident.
How about some literal "how were you supposed to know" moments in games? Like that fucking room in the Egyptian level of Goldeneye, or that cuntbag Skulltula in Hyrule Castle where you had to play song of storms next to the tree, or in Mario 64 that you could get an additional star for completing the slide fast.
How were you supposed to know that you have to play SM64 without A press?
>>344546456
The rabbit runs down there and then doubles back, so a lot of people just fall into the wall. Other than that, if you aren't exploring the castle with curiosity, than you aren't doing it right.
>>344548906
Isn't that the whole point? When trophies were first being introduced, I thought they were gonna be for esoteric shit like that, not for "Completing Level 1"
>>344548568
>How is that not suspicious in the slightest
How is that suspicious? Do you go around in real life encountering dead end signs, thinking you wil end up in fucking Narnia if you go down this way? It doesn't make sense.
>>344546456
How were you supposed to know you need to breathe to stay alive?
how are you supposed to know how to breathe?
>>344549628
>thinking you wil end up in fucking Narnia if you go down this way?
But the game is literally all about going into fucking Narnia because you touched a static portion of the wall.
>>344549649
I appreciate your effort even if the thread is clearly a troll post.
>>344548373
>>344549649
Oh, yeah, I guess there's what this Toad says also. Straight up says there are enemy worlds inside the walls.
>>344547261
>>344546456
How were you supposed to know that having the cogs in TTC stay still for 30 seconds would take the entire life of the universe to occur?
>>344549814
A static portion of a painting, mind you. Now kids are all about touching shit they're not allowed to right? Hence comes the paintings. That's good game design. But a fucking wall? That's not interesting in the slightest. No one would bother to check it out.
Testing, I hope this doesn't violate some secret rule.
>>344548373
>impossible to figure out
>8 year olds 10 years ago figured it out
Is every new generation losing a few IQ points?
How was I supposed to know Toad would just give me a fucking star?
>>344549923
These threads are made a lot, might as well have fun with them. Plus it gave me a reason to do another 16-Star run.
>>344550303
Careful with your choice of words. Kids don't "figure it out", they just happen to find it because of sheer dumb luck. They find it because they're dumb, not the other way around. A person with the least amount of common sense would inevitably not be able to find it.
>>344550303
Kids that play more difficult games, grow up smarter.
>>344550032
rare flag
>>344546456
What about that wall in the mirror room? How were you supposed to know?
>>344549628
Games very rarely have side areas with no purpose. If there's a room it has some sort of purpose.
I don't know why people like you bother making posts like this, you're basically trying to argue and convince other people they were wrong for doing what you weren't able to.
How were you supposed to know how to build speed for 12 hours to get to a parallel universe?
Games nowadays...
>>344550726
>they just happen to find it because of sheer dumb luck
Are you fucking kidding?
>>344548568
>>344549649
>>344549936
The game does 3 different things to show you this wall. It's in a fucking weird location, it lures you into it with the bunny, an NPC fucking tells you about going into walls.
>>344548906
That fucking treasure chest with some rare sword in FF12, that could *only* be unlocked by opening some random chests in some random area in a particular sequence, with no fucking clues or hints in the game WHATSOEVER.
Fuck. That. Bullshit. That is solely designed for strategy guides and nothing else. That doesn't belong in a game at all.
>>344550923
Because the fucking mirror faggot
>>344550923
>get into the room
>see there's a painting in the mirrored part where a wall is supposed to be
>"Hey, what if"
proper level design
>>344550726
Right, that's why modern players have to watch playthroughs and let's play
that's why games hold your hand through the whole thing now
Because modern players are smart.
>>344550923
>>344551350
>>344551419Not him, but I legit never noticed that.
>>344548906
>or that cuntbag Skulltula in Hyrule Castle where you had to play song of storms next to the tree
Don't the Skeika Stones hint about that at all? I mean I agree with you, but I swear that they mention something about the song.
>this thread
>>344551262
>It's in a fucking weird location
Dead ends are weird? Sure thing mate
>it lures you into it with the bunny
Just leave the poor thing alone Jesus Christ I bet you're one those damn meat-eaters
>an NPC fucking tells you about going into walls
Why would trust someone pretending to be a giant shroom?
>>344546456
I didn't know Tall Tall Mountain had a slide until like 2002. Always got that star by spinning to it.
>>344551326
I actually kind of like that kind of cryptic shit that you only find out about like 15 years later on a wiki in the middle of the night.
>>344552293
>Dead ends are weird? Sure thing mate
It's the only dead end in the game that seemingly has nothing in it. It might be the only dead end period.
>Just leave the poor thing alone Jesus Christ I bet you're one those damn meat-eaters
What do you get out of posting like this?
>Why would trust someone pretending to be a giant shroom?
Why do you bother doing this?
>>344550207
>The face of a clock
>a random fucking birdcage
>Literally another wall with the giant snowman world
H O W
How were you supposed to know how to build up speed? (for 12 hours)
>>344552324
I find it funny that the DS remake actually put a barrier on that little balcony in order to stop people from doing this.
how was i supposed to know to put the cartridge in the slot? I couldn't start playing this game until I learned what sex was
>Get green shroom to activate in the courtyard
>Don't let out touch you
>Record your time
>>344552293
>Dead ends are weird? Sure thing mate
When the opposite side has a flame & a Toad to talk to, yes it is weird.
>Just leave the poor thing alone Jesus Christ I bet you're one those damn meat-eaters
He was asking for it after running around. It's like a cat chasing a mouse, you just can't resist the urge to pounce on him.
>Why would trust someone pretending to be a giant shroom?
The first Toad you meet tells you correct information gaining your trust.
>>344552439
Why did you bother arguing with me in the first place isn't it obvious I'm getting my kicks out of fucking with you?
/vr/ called, they wanted their bait back
>>344552329
>Implying that shit wasn't on the official guide™
>"We're trapped inside the castle walls!"
>thought they literally meant they were stuck inside the walls
The way they faded out when you walked away from them only confused me more
>>344546456
The rabbit leads you there when you chase it.
>>344546456
i dunno i just kind of ran into it and saw it ripple. if you were a kid who played vidya games back in the 90's you checked every corner.
>>344548373
>Not constantly jumping into walls because you thought it was funny when Mario said D'oh!
>>344552293
>>344552775
Also every wall has pillars on the side of them, the only one that doesn't is the portal to the Desert world.
/r/ing the half button press remix
>>344552789
I didn't realize you were purposefully being a stupid cunt until halfway through my post.
>>344552775
>When the opposite side has a flame & a Toad to talk to, yes it is weird.
I said earlier that you can't trust those guys, if anything that's an indication that he's trying to get you to run into a wall, ending up in yourself getting hurt
>He was asking for it after running around
Nevertheless that's straight up harassment. Case in point, he gives you a star out of fear you're going to eat him
>The first Toad you meet tells you correct information gaining your trust
That's how they do it. First they give you a legit useful tip, the next thing you know they make run into a wall
>>344554240
holy shit stop this please
>>344548906
When I was younger I assumed the floor tiles were just a reference to a Bond film I hadn't seen. I now know that puzzle was total horseshit.
>>344554315
Not until the truth has finally come out.
>>344554240
>I said earlier that you can't trust those guys, if anything that's an indication that he's trying to get you to run into a wall, ending up in yourself getting hurt
You might have said not to trust them, but kids are naive & trust people regardless, especially back in 1996. Also >>344553241
>Nevertheless that's straight up harassment. Case in point, he gives you a star out of fear you're going to eat him
This is true & kids are reckless little monsters who always harass their parents. Also him giving you a star encourages you to chase him again teaching the player that you must force yourself to harass others to get what you want. It's helped me in life after all.
>That's how they do it. First they give you a legit useful tip, the next thing you know they make run into a wall
Like I said earlier, kids are naive. They are easy to manipulate & they'll learn from others they trusted earlier in life, even if it's a lie that could hurt you.
>>344546456
By chasing the fucking bunny. Are you autistic?
>>344547079
It's not fucking easy either
>>344554893
I'll agree on what you said on the condition that you admit that Super Mario 64 was created to raise kids to be naive, obnoxious little shits, as your post tends to confirm.
>>344547079
RTFM
>>344555301
I agree on that. You should've just started the thread like that actually, we would've all agreed then.
>>344555451
>Mario can travel through parallel universes but can't do a scuttlebug jamboree
Explain this, atheists.
>>344546456
What is the point of this thread? To le epic troll us or are you just autistic?
>>344555875
Yes
>>344555875
both desu
A wall is a wall. You can't say it has a level inside of it.
>>344555451
I found out the other day that that guy is actually the brother of a girl I used to hang with in college
he's a PhD physicist, which shouldn't be a surprise to anybody
>>344550032
jesus fuck, anime characters should never have there head turned like that. its fucking creepy
>YFW kids these days do not know how to ENTER A PARALLEL UNIVERSE WHILE ONLY USING -4 A PRESSES
How was I supposed to know I had to max my luck stat to hit anything?
>>344558401
How does negative A presses work?
You hold the button before turning on the console?
>>344548861
this
I remember diving into the wall when I was actually tying to dive into the rabbit
This thread, even with the great effort of anons to make it otherwise, is faggotry on its highest levels...
Op truly is a faggot.
>>344551716
DEEPEST
I don't understand this meme.
When you bump into a wall with a painting, the painting ripples like water. Anyone can tell "oh, paintings don't do that" and try to jump or punch at it to see what it does. There's water outside before you even enter the castle that uses this same ripple effect (albeit smaller) when you're near it.
>>344546456
luigi tells you
>>344559501
what is this from?
>>344560051
X-Men: Days of Future Past. The movie's decent but sadly Dinklage is kind of wasted in it.
Games back them
>Playing game
>get stuck somewhere
>talk to all the npcs
>backtrack and try to find a way
>accidentally bump into some secrets while doing so
>finally figure it out and move on with life after a few hours
>call it a day and continue your journey another day
Games now
>Playing game
>"hint: secret passages can usually be found behind waterfalls and under rocks"
>get stuck anyway
>quick save
>search for longplay on youtube
>figure out how to do thing
>go back to game and do thing
>get stuck again 30 minutes later because you missed something important
>Can't beat the game in one sitting, that means its shit
Prove me wrong
>>344560051
What this guy >>344560284 said
>>344560051
X-Men: Days of Future Past
How were you supposed to know the Octoroks were impossible boss monsters?
>>344555451
>page 81
>page 82
Books do not work that way!
>>344560324
You'reright
>>344561081
yes they do
>>344560324
You forgot
>ask older brother/friend's older brother
>>344548373
As bait as this post is ill bite by saying just that a big emphasis of the game was based on exploration. So one woild explore and be used to goong through suspicious and barren areas just incase something was there
>>344561081
That's how retarded americans number their books.
>>344552439
>It might be the only dead end period.
I agree with you entirely, but there's another dead end
this thread is on so many layers of irony
>>344562601
I think youre giving the OP too much credit. Just a memeing faggot desu senpai
>>344561856
Technically not a dead end.
Since its a bottomless pit.
>>344548373
I can understand the Water Temple from Ocarina of Time stumping people, but that wall was obvious.
>>344556986
is she Hot?
>>344563197
If anything that just makes it more of a *dead* end.
how were you supposed to know to jump into the paintings? that makes literally no sense
>>344561759
i'm american and dont get it, how are pages supposed to be numbered?
>>344564365
>>344564942
they have the even page on the left hand side, and the odd one on the right like
1
2 3
4 5 etc.
>>344564998
>2016
>Reading words.
>>344564942
>Not knowing metric pages
The conversion rate between American pages to metric is 3.47 to 1. About every 3 and a half metric pages are numbered.
How were you supposed to know to look at the sun?
That was some serious bullshit.
>>344556986
My dad too works at Nintendo.
Pannenkoek's still in college studying computer science.
>>344549628
>games usually have secrets since almost always.
>compare with real life.
That's now how this works anon.
>>344548906
>>344552010
Didn't the stone of agony, or whatever they called the rumble pack start going off when you got near?
>>344565240
He said "were" which means he's referring to the past, meaning it wouldn't be 2016 & it'd be 1996.
>>344548219
I was trying to catch that bitch rabbit and accidentally flew into the wall.
>>344549649
>>344549936
Why does this game look so much better, visually, than Ocarina of Time? After dusting off my copy of OoT, I'm glad I bought the 3D update, but from what I've seen of the DS port of Mario, I've never had a desire to get, yet I definitely have a desire to play the original.
SNES area: Yeah you just have to walk there and figure it out at random
N64: It wobbles around making it obvious
Modern area of games: OBJECTIVE: MOVE TO THE WINDOW WHICH IS ACTUALLY A PORTAL [510 m]
You see your brother/cousin/uncle do it.
How where you supposed to know you could go inside the castle? Breaking and entering is illegal.
>>344566178
You were invited
>That stupid puzzle that had you stuck days
>>344566178
>Please come to the castle.
>>344566504
How were you supposed to know how to read?
>>344565782
Ocarina of Time was in development hell for half a decade. It wasn't even meant to be a N64 game, it was going to be a CD-Drive game and they developed it for that for over three years before scrapping literally everything and starting over from scratch on double time, which is why all the dating sim elements, extra dungeons and items, and OoT Part 2 (NOT MM) got scrapped.
Also, Miyamoto (who was actually an extremely competent programmer that singlehandedly made Nintendo games possible in the 90s), only actually helped with OoT towards the very end of development when time was getting extremely short. He worked on Mario 64 from the start.
On top of that, OoT is a much bigger game than Mario 64. In order to make it actually fit on a cartridge, they had to cut a shitload of corners, including cutting down on things like polygon count and textures. Compare the assets and you see.
Lastly, Mario 64's stylized design ages much better, whereas OoT's darker, more "realistic" approach doesn't.
>>344566498
ANALYSE THE TAPES JOHNSON
>>344566554
How were you supposed to know how to press A and start a file? The game doesn't tell you that's the button to press.
When I played it when I was 5 it took me 2 hours to figure out I was supposed to jump into the paintings.
>>344550726
>Kids are dumb.
Nice meme. Kids are not dumb, they are immature, but to go as far as to say that kids cannot have any deductie skills because you desperately want to bait people into replying to you is fucking stupid. Kids are surprisingly intelligent and absorb knowledge like fucking crazy and you'd know that if you raised a kid, ut since you're a literal fucking retard, It's best that you never reproduce.
Also.
>Kids don't "figure it out", they just happen to find it because of sheer dumb luck
>thousans of kids found this "secret" in a time when the internet was not, yet, mainstream without a single problem.
I kind of understand what the point you're trying to make is, but you nitpick a secret that NOBODY had trouble figuring out. I mean if it was something actually fucking stupid and ridiculously difficult to figure out, then I'd get it, but most children playing games, especially this one being one of the very first 3D environment to explore in videogame history, tend to be curious and try to find new shit to try.
Also the game already established waaaay before this point in the game that there are invisible walls and secrets, so, naturally, the player is going to explore the hub to find more.
You grasp at straws and move the goalpost constantly, there is nothing more to be said. Now good day and fuck off.
>>344566554
She says it out loud also.
Can we just stop pretending this is anything other than archaic video game design?
>>344566660
I was just supposed to know to have my volume up?
You chase after the gold bunny, and eventually hit a wall and notic is shakes like a painting. Its called good game design
>>344566660
How were you supposed to know how to understand language?
>>344566660
how the fuck were you supposed to know that you had to have ears or know how to read?
>>344559839
L is real.
>>344566626
Yeah, that makes sense. I was going to say "why does this game look so much more vibrant and colorful and appealing where OoT looks like mud" but it's kind of obvious why.
Is the DS Mario 64 even worth playing?
>>344561050
You know what sucks about modern Zeldas? You can't die.
I mean you can. But you really have to fucking actively try to die. In Zelda 1 you die every five minutes. Hated it at first, but it made it dangerous, which made it fun.
>>344561425
You can't have an odd number on the left-hand page.
Idiot.
>>344556969
underappreciated post
>>344548135
You wasted an A press
>>344565115
Lmao how the fuck does that make sense?
First page is on the left hand side. So
1 2
3 4
5 6
Explain how your system makes any sense you faggy eurofags
>>344567068
>Is the DS Mario 64 even worth playing?
30 more stars, a handful of bonus levels and objectives such as many more rabbits, several new powerups, obviously four different characters each with their own gimmicks, and extra minigames you can play from the main menu.
Bad controls get alleviated by playing on a 3DS or emulating.
>>344567690
pannenkoek, please. Some people just like to have fun, you know
>>344566645
How were you supposed to know to put blue fire in a bottle in OoT?
>>344548906
>>344567778
The first thing you see when you open a book is on the right-hand side. So that's page 1.
>>344567836
How was I supposed to know I'd need to read a random page from the manual just to learn how to start the game?
That's fucking bullshit
>>344567878
>tfw I never ever actually bought blue fire and have no idea what it does. Playing OoT3D now, and thought I'd "save up" and buy it.
Don't tell me, fags.
>>344567931
Lmao what the fuck?
>>344567836
How where you supposed to know to read the manual? The game never tells you to.
>>344546456
I didnt know, I was pursuing the yellow rabit and hit the wall by mistake
>>344549553
Achievements were never supposed to be challenges. They're meant to collect data on player progress so developers and publishers can see how far players get before stopping, what they're willing to do, etc.
If you ever see a questionable or tedious segment in a modern game with achievements, understand that it was included because a lot of players went out of their way to do the achievement in a previous game.
How were you supposed to know you could have sex with her?
>>344549936
You know there was always those kids who would press A furiously to skip all cutscenes and dialogue.
Had a friend in gradeschool who hated Star Fox because he thought it was just a game about flying through rings. Then I saw how he started every game he played: by smashing the A button to skip all the pre-title stuff. So he unwittingly entered training mode in Star Fox every time.
There are idiots in every generation.
>>344568031
I never, ever bought it as a kid. Actually, I don't think I have ever bought it. That price is outrageous.
>>344546693
OMG ARE YOU A WIZARD
The only thing that ever gave me trouble in SM64 was the sixth star in Whomp Fortress. OK, so I have to blast into a fucking wall, but why does it have to be a specific part of the wall?
>>344568075
DON'T LAUGH AT MY CUSTOMS BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
>>344546456
When you get near it, the wall ripples. The game doesn't really have (that many?) dead ends. When you're chasing the bunny for the first time, unless you've got some speedrun-like natural ability, he leads you towards that wall.
>>344569070
How was the egg supposed to know you'd have to wait for the sperm to come? Who the fuck designed this?
>>344560324
If you had the ability, you would have searched for a longplay back then too. Games have gotten better with time, and the only thing preventing you from realizing this are nostalgia goggles that turn frustrating slogs to solve illogical and incomprehensible tasks into grand adventures. The hint shit you mention was put into manuals instead of the game because there was no space for them.
>>344567901
Most games of this era had you interact with things using up or down.
Even if this was your first game, how hard is it to try out the 7 different buttons you can hit.
>>344569824
At least in manuals people had to search for it instead of it being shown in your face every few seconds. This is why people hated navi in ocarina of time.
>>344567778
Inside cover is not a page, so:
C 1
2 3
4 5
6 7
......etc.....
>>344570210
>inside cover is not a page
How exactly?
>>344546456
Back in the day, walk-throughs and hints in magazines were very common, and word by mouth in school, were also the biggest databases of secrets and easter eggs.
On a further note, 12 year olds suck at video games, therefore try many times more each level and tend to uncover every corner doing so.
>>344565971
Snes games have no depth
>>344570532
Because it's the back of the cover. How is that at all difficult?
Shit, even then numbering rarely actually starts on the first actual page. Go open a book, a magazine, whatever. I bet the inside cover isn't numbered.
>>344548219
that's only in the ds version
>>344549628
>in real life
This is some quality shitpost
>>344571810
Yes, that tends to happen when the games are 2D.
