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>that one vidya opinion that legitimately makes you angry
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>that one vidya opinion that legitimately makes you angry when you hear it

What's her name, /v/?
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>>344538057

>it's fun if you play with a group of friends

Nigga, I play soccer, volleyball, and football and it's a huge pain in the ass to get enough friends for a game. I don't need more anal pain in a fucking video game to have fun.
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>it's a beta, they'll fix it before release
>release is in 2-4 weeks

No, you fuckers. That's the final build of the game. They may make some changes to the servers and patch some gameplay but it's effectively a demo, not a beta.
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>It's okay if it's historically inaccurate, it's just a video game!

Fuck you, you smarmy cunt. I've been waiting for a AAA World War One game for fucking AGES and we get this shit? The forced diversity upsets me too, sure, but fucking 30 mile an hour tanks??? Automatic weapons everywhere??? No I'm not being bullheaded by not buying it because of this shit, it's not what I want so why would I waste my fucking money on it?
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>HL2 is good

Stop this. HL1 is better in every way. Only millennials like HL2.
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>>344538414

I'd say HL2 is a good, even great game, but I agree HL1 is superior. The mods, community, weapon variety, enemy variety, etc was so much better in HL1.
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>>344538292
Then tell retarded devs to stop calling pre-releases "beta".
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An opinion never gets me angry. It's when someone tries to use a shitty opinion to support a shitty action that gets me angry.
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I actually really dislike it when I hear people praising the direction of the new God of War.
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>>344538292
the opposite of this is annoying too
>wow this game looks fucking terrible
>it's version 0.2 and the devs are actively seeking player feedback to improve the game?
>lol it's shit enjoy you're dead game faglord
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>Every game from the past X years is shit
>Nothing good ever gets released
>RTS is dead

Total War Warhammer finally gave me a game to smash all of those complaints at once.
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>>344538549

Isn't that what a beta is?
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>>344538714
This.
>dev(s) clearly half-asses something
>call it out
>"stop being so entitled"
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>>344538057
>Story doesn't matter in videogames at all, gameplay is ALL THAT MATTERS
Like fuck, I love good gameplay, and I agree it's priority number one, but a good story can really make a game that much better. Especially if it's got a story that actually motivates you to get gud, and makes you feel accomplished when you beat enemies.

And that's not even mentioning RPGs, which 9/10 times live or die on their writing.
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>>344538057
>It gets better later
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>all you do in FFXI is stand around
I only ever get salty when people talk shit about muh MMOfu
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>It's not pay-to-win because you can earn the (whatever) through playing instead of buying them
>Day-1 DLC is okay if it's just cosmetics
>Day-1 DLC is okay ever
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>>344538057
>DaS > DeS

this is a fucking lie, anyone who says this CLEARLY hasn't played DeS, or has but after DaS
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>>344538057
I can't think of anything. not that I'm """above it""" or anything like that but nothing comes to mind
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FO3 being better than NV.
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>>344539189
As someone who played Des first, and loved it to death, I think DaS is definitely better, but only on the first playthrough. The more open, interconnected world was mind-blowing, but once you finish it and replay it, it becomes a lot less engaging, and the flaws and cracks start to show since you're not caught up in the moment.
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>>344538057

>WoW invented EVERYTHING on the MMO genre


My gosh, there's people out there that even thinks WoW was the 1st MMO, or the 1st MMO with dungeons, or with PVP, or with talents...
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>>344539025

This x100, and it's the same with graphics/music

It's like people don't understand that games are a combination of a bunch of mediums that form a coherent whole
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when they say that anyone who played a vanilla wow server would surely get bored and quit by level 10 and the server would be dead in a month
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>>344538057
>I play for fun not to be good

Fucking nigger, roleplaying trash must be so fun, right? Why don't you choose BOTH?
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>>344538057
>I LOVED Bioshock Infiniate
>I LOVED Skyrim
>I LOVED [insert flavor of the month]
also more annoying when a chick tells me this because typically all they are are walking parrots of popular opinions the game media wants you to think..
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>>344539298
that's true though new vegas was so barren and things were so scattered. Atleast fallout 3 gave you interesting things to look at while walking in new Vegas you had dessert
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You made this thread just to fill your bait repertory?
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>>344539602

I loved both and played them years after they were released. There's nothing wrong in liking "FOTM" games.
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>>344539686
I guess what I mean is, if people can actually back up their opinion of why they liked it and they've played the other sequels. Skyrim wasn't bad but overhyped. Bioshock Infinite was shit imo and if you really liked Bioshock Infiinite I would recommend playing the other Bioshock games because they are an improvement in every single way minus graphics.
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>fun isn't a valid reason to say a game is good

I don't know Mang, but isn't the point of playing games to have fun?
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>>344538057
>turn based is outdated and boring
>the fact you enjoy it is an irrelevant argument
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>cod is better than gaylo
>why?
>it just is plus there's more of them

whatever you say dude not even gonna argue this kinda shit
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Video game opinions don't piss me off. What does piss me off is when people aren't able to debate so they just repeat
>b-b-bait
Over and over until you give up
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>>344539935
The thing I hate with turn-based, is almost no game series use it well. Even in a JRPG style, turn-based games should be heavily strategic, not like most Final Fantasy where you can get by with spamming "Attack" and then healing spells/items when your HP gets low.

The whole advantage of Turn-based is being able to take your time and consider every option, and yet almost no turn-based games use that advantage at all. They just come out as really slow-paced hack and slash.
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>>344538057
>Calm down man, it's Bethesda afterall
Why do they get a free pass for making wonky as games?

Also
>Mods will fix it
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>>344539602
>-I love [insert the newest game of the series], I completed it a hundred times already!
>-Then why don't you try playing previous games instead of playing the same shit over and over again?
>-Nah
>-Why, they're really good!
>-I'm not saying they're not, I just don't want to

Fucking why?!
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>>344539912

A game doesn't have to be fun to be a good game.
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>playing action with low framerate
>"Dude the frames don't even bother me I can't even tell the difference"

Fuck you, I guarantee if I put a 60fps version next to a 30 fps version you'd be able to tell the difference
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>>344540097
Give me one example of a game that isn't fun that people consider good.
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>>344539081
tfw going to replay FFXI on a private
I just want to feel ;_;
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>Anon why don't you get Battlefield 1? It's gonna be so lit

I fucking hate that guy but he is one of 4 roommates I have to live with
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>>344538057
>The newer CoDs are totally shit with their wacky outfits, not like MW2 the best CoD ever made
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>>344540078
>[Newest game of the series comes out]
>Fans of series notice how the mechanics have been dumbed down and it's attempting to appeal to a wider audience
>Game journalists praise it 10/10 when fans see it is objectively bad
>Le Gamers come out and praise it infinitely
>"Have you tried the other ones?"
>"Nah I don't want to."
>"Well you're a fan of this game right?"
>"Yeah."
>"And you would like to play these types of games right?"
>"Yeah."
>"Then if you say you're a fan of this game and would enjoy this series, why not play the others?"
>"Sure, maybe one day. Until then this game is 10/10 and I'm going to let all my Facebook/Twitter followers know I'm in the cool crowd :^)"
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>>344539949
>actually giving a shit about gaylo and cowadoody
Jesus Christ this place really went to shit.
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>>344540045
i'm not saying i don't see the flaws, and i agree there haven't been many games that have used the system well. Srpgs seem to do it best from my experience. But despite the flaws i've found enjoyment in many a turn based game. Honestly, the biggest problem if i had to think about it is that some minor enemies become a chore in turn based games. The bosses are often top notch, if there was a way to make a turn based game where every fight felt like a boss i think we'd have a gold maker.
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>you can't criticize something for being unrealistic--this is a game where you can survive a bullet to the chest!
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>>344540189
Deadly Premonition
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>>344539081
Ffxi is pretty bad.

The only people who still play it are jaded vets who feel forced to play because of the massive time commitment.

Especially when FFxiv is out.
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>>344540057
Fucking this man, I have some friends who ONLY play fallout 4 and when I was trying to explain why I didn't like it, and brought up the glitches, they responded just like that.
>oh all their games are glitchy it's not a big deal
Fuck that
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>>344538057
Not really an opinion but
>people who take comp. play way too seriously and get mad over losing games
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>Max Payne 3 is better than 1 and 2
It doesn't make me angry but really? Besides graphics and at time music, there's nothing that MP3 does better than the others.

What makes me angry is
>this subgenre that I like died because this subgenre that I dislike got popular
Every fucking racing thread there's that retard who spergs over more ''grounded'' (not necessarily simulators) racing games still being around while Wipeout and FZero aren't. It's not fucking cause and effect, you shits.
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all of them
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>It's too old. The graphics bother me too much.


I have no face for how infuriating this is to me.
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>>344540345
That's the exact opposite of DP though. DP isn't good mechanically, but people consider it fun.

Source: I love DP, but I know it's a piece of steaming trash.
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Whenever people try to act like sm64 or OoT aren't that good or influential

People who hate on miyamoto, especially if they mention sticker star. Miyamoto haters in general are just ignorant people and I am forced to ignore them at this point because the bandwagon has gotten so full

And yes I know about Tezuka and koizuimi and other directors that usually don't get credit, miyamoto still deserves his
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>>344540078
>"dude I love [series], I can't stop playing [latest game in the series]"
>"it's really not that good compared to [one or more previous game in the series]"
>"yeah but i dropped them 15 minutes in because i couldn't stand [a complete list of what made the previous games good]"
>bonus points if said features were removed to cater to moviegamefags, retards and/or casuals
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>>344538057
>Game 2 sucks, Game 1 was better
>Nigga it's the same thing
>No, it's casualized bland CoD bullshit
>Dude, they only changed two things about the gameplay and improved the graphics
>You don't get it, it's shit

I feel like people like things just because they're old.
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>The game is good but it hasnt aged well
worst meme ever
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>>344538414
They're both not that great.
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>>344540189
Nier
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>Metroid isn't dead, you're just an entitled baby
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>>344538367
Minus the tanks, none of that shit is historically inaccurate. What's inaccurate is the prevalency of those things. Submachine guns and non-white colonial troops existed in this period alright, but you were more likely to see a white European with a bolt gun than anything else.
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>>344539624
>dessert
yummy
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>>344539189
both are shit
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>>344540189

The Journey
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>>344540414
I know that feel. I swear it's like there is the generation that grew up on games and they'll try anything as long as it's good. Then there is 'le gamer' crowd that will only do what's popular/hip. It's sad and it sucks. I wish video games never became popular.
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>>344540516
>>344540345
>good
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>Overwatch isn't a team based shooter like all the others
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>>344538057
>Uncharted is a movie
Generic shooter at best, but it hardly has anymore cinematics than any other AAA game series.
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>>344540189
Pathologic
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>>344540302
Oh yeah, I do agree, I like turn-based, but if you don't use it to it's strength, then it's shit, and most people don't use it to it's strengths.

A lot of Final Fantasy games are a big offender of this. I like SMT because of how they make Status effects actually useful and necessary, and generally emphasize varying your tactics and elements. Though I'm not a big fan of the absurd min-maxing you can do. I know you don't need to do it to win, but I feel the need to, even though I hate it, and find it boring so I usually wind up dropping them.
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>>344540632
People consider Nier good.
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>>344539189
You will never convince me the shitty overencumberment system in DeS is somehow superior to magic infinite inventory in DaS.
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>>344540189

Demon's Souls
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>>344538942
No you little faggot.
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>>344539602
And what's the list of FOTM games?
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>Old Nintendo was better than new Nintendo
They are exactly the same. For better and worse. Both make good and bad games, both make dumb localization changes, both censors, both have shit relationships with third parties.
The only think that changed are your personal tastes. Whoever says old Nintendo was better is simply letting their nostalgia talking for him.
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>>344540479
Give an example.

Because what you said applies perfectly to an awful lot of games.
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>>344540620
I don't know man. I grew up playing video games but there were a ton of games I missed when I was younger. So now when I try and replay them I just get annoyed at the dated mechanics and terrible graphics. Maybe I'm too young, I'm 21 but it still feels like playing these old 90s games are a chore.
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>don't play Persona 1 or 2, they're shit
>Persona 4 is great!
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>Bayonetta is a movie game
Granted it was just one autist posting this over and over again, but it was still really irritating
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>>344540717
yeah sure, next you'll tell me a 60% score is "above average"
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>>344539792
I liked Bioshock: Infinite and I liked Bioshock. I'm currently playing through Bioshock 2 and I'm enjoying it.
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>there is literally nothing wrong with Steam

Fuck these people. These same people will complain about Origin or UPlay. It's same type of garbage DRM folks. How's Gabe's dick taste?
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>>344538057
>pokemon go is good.

Nigger it's a reskinned Ingress.
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>>344538367
You're the one that's historically inaccurate Tbh
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>>344538057
>BioShock is boring/bland/non atmospheric
Maybe it's because it was the first game I truly felt immersed in, but whenever people talk smack about BioShock I get upset
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>>344538057
>game is a jrpg
>with an anime-like artstyle
>or some romance element
>automatically labed as weebshit with trope characters
it's bad enough that this opinion gets posted so often that people who haven't even tried any jrpgs just assume they're all the same or don't play anything outside FF and ocasionally SMT.
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>>344540780
ME2 mostly.
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>>344540813
You asked for a game that isn't fun that people consider good. I gave you an example, also
>Listening to reviewers and not forming your own opinion
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"DmC/Revengeance is bad"
They're both very good action games
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>>344538057
Not quite an "Opinion" I suppose, but the whole trend of "7 on a 1-10 scale is average, and anything below 7 is GARBAGE".
FUCK YOU. Why even have a 1-10 scale, if you're only using 4 of them? Just make it a 4-star system or some shit.
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>>344540189
Any MOBA
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>lmao why play the original System Shock when 2 exists
>wow the System Shock remake looks great!
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>>344540749

What's the difference?
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>>344540785
You must not have been playing that much when you were younger. I can still pick up a game from the 90s I never played because I can put myself in the mindset of that era
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>>344540913
I did though. Dropped it 10 hours in.
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>>344540878
>game filled with weebshit
>get mad when people call it weebshit

you are a weeb in denial
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>>344540827
Why did you like Bioshock Infinite?
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>>344540850
I don't think Steam is flawless, but the big difference is Steam has almost everything, while those only care a small handful of games from specific publishers. No one wants to have to boot up 3 or 4 different DRM services. Steam by itself is bearable because it's centralized.
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>>344540189
The Void
Pathologic
Any good horror game
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>>344539912
I think that's because the term "good" has different meanings. It can mean that the game is well made and/or that the game is worthwhile to play. Differentiating between what element of "good" you're talking about can stop many arguments, though not all.
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>>344541037
This desu
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>>344538057
>Minecraft is nothing but a kid's game
JUST
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>>344538057
>MGSV is not unfinished, it's just structured like this :)
>This is exactly how Kojima wanted the game to turn out
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>>344540850

Steam offers a much cheaper digital distribution service with good support. It basically comes down to steam is fine because using steam provides you several benefits that shit like UPlay and Origin don't, being glorified launchers instead.
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>>344540994
Just because you don't consider it good doesn't mean nobody else does
>>344541004
Define weebshit
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>"Why would you that game when it has such terrible graphics?"
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>>344541018
Not him, but it really doesn't deserve the hate it gets on /v/. The ending is COMPLETE garbage without a doubt, but up until the last 1/4, the story was interesting and intriguing, had me interested and curious and drew me in, making me want to continue. The gameplay itself was also perfectly serviceable. Nothing ground-breaking, but not bad either.
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>Sonic was never good

I know it's a meme but Sonic 3 & Knuckles is a legitimately great platformer.
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>>344539568
Sorry for enjoying the game :^)
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>>344538414
Story is better. Black Mesa was better. But vanilla HL1 is still inferior to HL2 just because of mechanics and graphics
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>>344540878
>>or some romance element
this is a defining feature of weebshit
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>>344538057
>Blizzard games are good

This meme needs to stop. The last good game they published is TFT and this was 13 years ago.
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>>344538057
Liking MOBAs.
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>neptunia is good
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>BB is GG lite
You have to ignore literally all the changes that have been made throughout the franchise to reach that conclusion
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>Platinum is good
>Metal Gear Rising is great
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>>344539624
rock formations and dilapidated radio towers are interesting things to look at?
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>>344541149
This so much. It's not just S3&K either, but that one's the best.
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>>344540980
A beta is for testing purposes.

A pre-release is a demo.

Developers these days have raped the term "alpha" and "beta", and slap it on their pre releases, because the normies like to pretend they're helping the game develope, and in some cases, are willing to pay money for an unfinished game so they can feel special for playing a game that isn't technically out yet.

>t. Black Ops 3 "beta" where literally one thing was changed
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>>344541247
The original BB was basically a shitty GG knock-off, but the sequels definitely improved it, and in some ways I'd say it's better than GG now. Though I without a doubt still prefer GG overall.
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>>344541137
anything with any hint of anime influence is weebshit
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>>344540286
So Fallout 4 and Skyrim
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>>344541113
You are right, it's for autistic people too.
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>>344541192
But only if the main character is a self insert. >>344541330
What kind of anime influence are we talking here? Because that's a varied medium. Is Wild Arms weeb because it has a similar setting to Trigun?
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>>344538057

>I don't play old games/"It didn't age well"
>Basing their opinion of a game they've never played on metacritic reviews
>It's reddit/tumblr/ebaumsworld ("I'm a contrarian fuckwit so I don't play games if they're too popular")
>It's indie/western/weeb shit ("I don't like video games")

Basically everything /v/ says
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The Uncharted series is fantastic and you are not allowed to criticise it.

Seriously fucking shits me that almost no one talks about the games themselves but when a new one comes out OH MAN IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL BEST GAME I EVER PLAYED 10/10 OH WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GOOD ABOUT IT I DUNNO LOL.

I mean no one actually says what is good about them from a gameplay perspective. They are just boring shooters with retarded and laughably animated AI.
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>>344541375
What's the big issue with skyrim? I see everyone shitpost about it all the time.

I know what's wrong with FO4, but what did skyrim do? Just a bad story or what?
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>>344538160
>nofriends.jpeg
all i have to do is ask and 3 friends join instantly
faggot
NEETs are whats wrong with this world
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>>344541471
The more things change the more they stay the same
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>>344541505
but muh cinematic setpieces and masked QTEs!
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>>344538057
That visual novels are games, they're just glorified cyoa books. Literally where is the game play? I don't think that the inclusion of a choice makes it a game, if all you're doing is reading and never actually PLAYING anything, how in the fuck is that a game? Not saying that visual novels don't have their appeal, they just aren't games, and we shouldn't pretend like they are. They can still be good, they just don't count as games in my opinion.
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>>344541145
I think the reason it got so much hate from /v/ is how overrated it was. /v/ in general despises over-hyped games that don't deserve praise, even if they're not objectively terrible.

For example Undertale isn't a terrible game, but it definitely is not the overhyped 10/10 shit that people say it is. That is where people get pissed and I also get pissed when I see a flavor of the month game start becoming known as something groundbreaking, when we're all aware it wasn't.

Bioshock Infinite didn't enraged me completely on its own; it was a bland game (not the world, but everything in between) and I think a step back. What pissed me off the most was how just the cover and graphics made so many people praise it as 10/10 when most can agree it's a 7/10 at best and becomes annoying when you see so many opinions that endlessly praise it for most likely brownie points into what is deemed by the mainstream as 'cool to like'.

In short, when normies cling onto something just for the social status it gives them in gaming 'culture', the item itself becomes despised as much as the people who over-praise it.
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>>344541505
I am a sonygger and I never got the appeal of Uncharted.

>Le violent pitfall man is in trouble again

Honestly what the fuck is supposed to be so interesting about it?
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>>344539568
TRIGGERED
did you ever enjoy a game? or are you one of those sweaty tryhards who arent even good in the end
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>>344541247
The amount of people that hate BlazBlue but love Guilty Gear honestly confuses me.
Are they just mad that BlazBlue "replaced" Guilty Gear for a while?
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>Who cares if you have to to play online on PSN/XBL? It's only $50 a year
Adding on to that
>I pay $50 a year and get free games on PSN/XBL!
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>>344538057
>Castlevania Lords of Shadow is a good Castlevania. I love the music!
TRIGGER WARNING:
>Castlevania Lords of Shadow is exactly what the series needed.
>If you're a hater you're a weeb xD
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>>344541471
>It didn't age well

This is a legitimate complaint tho. Some game were awesome when they came out and revolutionized their respective genre but if you compare them to newer games that expended on their legacy, these older games can feel clunky, boring or dull.

An example : Compare Warcraft and Warcraft 3.
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>>344541163
I actually hated black mesa for not feeling like HL1
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overwatch
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>>344538057
Any opinion that's formed without having decent knowledge on the subject irritates me.
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>winning is the most important thing in videogames
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>>344540903

ME2 was superior to ME1 in everything except the RPG features and the importance of the plot.
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>>344541163
>Black Mesa was better
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>>344541740
It's a shame catslevania died but at least we don't have to deal lords of shitters anymore
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>>344540414
i try everything but some old games i cant stand it physicly hurts today
like vice city
tried it yesterday after 6 years and my eyes hurt
but i played the shit out of it on my ps2
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>>344540982
It's the same for me, I can generally just put myself in that mindset and enjoy older games. I never drop a game because the graphics are bad, if the mechanics are outdated I can swing it too. However some older games have such outdated mechanics I can't force myself to play through them, this has only happened with a couple of games.
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>>344541897
otherwise known as the main appeal of Mass Effect 1
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>>344540386
They're playing comp to have a serious game though
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>>344541740
LoS was a pretty solid game and easily the best Castlevania 3D (granted it's not that hard to achieve). I don't see why you are mad at this. It's not like a 2D Castlevania was canceled to make this game. It's a good game.

LoS 2 however...
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>>344541729

>I will defend this
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>>344541895

I hate both extremes

>Winning is the most important thing

and

>Dude it's only a game, fucking tryhard.

Winning it's not the most important thing but I don't play to lose.
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>THIS GAME IS THE BEST even though I didn't finish it

FUCK OFF
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>>344538808
>playing a version 0.2
Unless that some open-source community project, at this point of the development it shouldn't be fucking hard for the developer to find out what's wrong with the game. I mean seriously if the game consists of only 2 levels where one isn't textured and you clip through the other one into the void, it shouldn't be that hard for the developer to figure out what's wrong. Seriously people who put out games on Steam that aren't more than a proof of concept are worse than Hitler.
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>>344541534
there is literally nothing wrong with skyrim
:^)[spoiler/]
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>>344540878
fuck off weeb
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>>344542036
>It's not like a 2D Castlevania was canceled to make this game
Multiple were actually. IGA would develop an early prototype of one and Konami would tell him to fuck off because Kojima made them go for LoS instead
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>hey have you tried [a single shitty AAA game]?
>tried it, didn't like it
>what about [a single shitty unfinished early-access indie game]?
>i don't buy early access games
>so if you don't like AAA games or indie games what kind of games do you even play?
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>That guy that uses Twitch views to determine if a game is successful or not
>That guy that posts Metacritic scores, user or press score doesn't matter, to judge the quality of a game
>That guy that uses sales data as an evidence for a game to be good or bad
>That guy that posts a link to a literally who's youtube video and uses his opinion to judge a game
>That guy that thinks the opinion posted by an eCeleb on Twitter means something
>That guy that calls marketers or shills people that are talking about a game in a positive way
>That guy that complains about censorship, unless a company he personally likes censors something, in that case it's ok
>That guy that thinks /v/ is one person or a hivemind
I know you are reading this. You deserve to die in a painful way.
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>>344541851
>fag pulled some dumb selmade theory out of his ass
>never bothered trying to verify/falsify it
>will still present it as if a dev himself had told him the truth
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>>344541897
Don't fool yourself here : the RPG """"features""""" of ME 1 were atrocious. The inventory was an obnoxious mess and the progression was boring and linear. The series was always meant to be a story driven action RPG.

I agree about the plot tho, ME 2 story was underwhelming as fuck.
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>>344540878
anime games are cancer and i hate this board for liking them
they ruined /v/
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>>344541470
>Anime artstyle

It's weebshit alright.
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>hey anon, play this game with us
>we know it's your first time so we won't get mad at you if you goof up
>goof up
>WTF ANON YOU FUCKING SUCK YOU COST US THE GAME
>they remove me from friend's list

Holy shit, what the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>344542317
Oh. I always thought weebshit was a bad thing but I guess if it's just the artstyle it's not really a big deal. It doesn't really seem like something worth sperging out over. But this is /v/
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>>344541971
I will admit games were sometimes intentionally obtuse back then to extend play time
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A videogame not need to be a game
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>>344542128
personally I had no bad experience with the "it's only a game" crowd, as long as you know their angle in beforehand. Usually they're kinda relaxed and up for silly fun.

however people that for some fucking reason play a game but don't care about it even in the slightest make my blood boil
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>>344541163
>Black Mesa was better
there's mine
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>>344541534
This would require an entire thread but basically :

>Shit story, characters and setting
>even more casualized than Oblivion
>has the same problems every Bethesda games have : bugs, poorly thought out combat, shitty console UI, unbalanced progression.
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>>344542425
don't make friends with cancerous ass holes who only live to win in online video games.
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>>344542016
Still no reason to get mad at it.
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>you need to play the game all the way through to see if it's good

FUCK no, if I eat a plate of shit and get a quarter of the way through and determine that it's shit, what makes you think I'm gonna eat the rest?
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>>344540773
They are the same in many ways, but that's precisely the problem, they havn't updated with the times. Their terrible online system on wii/wii u is a prime example of this, they're living in the past
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>>344541534
Personally I enjoyed skyrim but it was full of glitches and story was 4-10 at best

I only played 10-15 hours before I was bored, but it was a fun 15 hours
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>>344542563
not everyone is an autistic robot like you m8
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>anon, this game is popular you HAVE TO PLAY IT
>anon, this game is popular you HAVE TO AVOID IT

I can't tell who the fuck is more cancerous.
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>>344542128
It depends on the nature of the game.
For example ArmA 2 Capture The Island is all about winning, that's the only thing you got to do there. Otherwise just play any other gamemode.
Another example is TF2 Mann Power, people play it to to try the powerups, and no one cares about the objective, so tryhards that bitch about their team not playing the objective can fuck off to any other gamemode.
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>league of legends is a good competitive game
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>>344540189
>What are grand strats
>What are Mil Sims
>What are simulations
>What are city builders
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>>344542502
not who you're replying to but I agree. I also hate the people who care about the game more than anything else in their life at that moment. Such as people who say
>Dude Mario Party destroys friendships
and they're serious. How fucking autistic do you have to be to get upset that someone stole your fucking star in Mario Party? People like that piss me off at getting upset over immature shit and I typically stop talking to them.
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>>344542732
If a game is popular then it's generally shit
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>you can't put this game's soundtrack on the same level as this one cuz the tracks weren't composed for the game itself

Nigger the fuck do I care about where the tracks come from, if they fit the game well that's all that matters to me.
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>>344542761
Btw ArmA 2 CTI matches can be 3-5 hours long, what do do in it is capture towns for income and try to find the enemy team's base and destroy it before they destroy yours.
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>>344540285
>mfw I actually kinda like the new CoDs turning into wacky sanic platformers
>PC support artrocious with still no LAN/FOV support since WaW
>maps are just tunnels designed for people to circle around

People who claim Terminal in MW2 is a good map or even prefer it over somethings like Derail or Invasion are what's wrong with CoD
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>Fallout 3 is a good RPG
Usually followed by >Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game.
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>>344538057
>Why do you think having gay/black/trans people in this carefully thought out pre-industrial world is bad? There are talking dragons in it XD
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>you only prefer melee because of nostalgia
>your some tryhard faggot aren't you
>let it go, the games are fine

The fact that people defend the casualization of smash on this site especially really confuses me
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>>344540189
The Walking Dead
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>>344542129
>Even if I didn't PLAY it.

See everyone who praises Ni No Kuni and Uncharted and hasn't had to suffer just how tedious they are.
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>>344538057
>You don't want that. You think you do, but you don't.
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>>344543047
>the new* games are fine

Just fuck my post up senpai
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>>344543007

>friend: wow anon, this 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc game in a franchise is awesome!
>me: neat, have you played the previous games in the franchise?
>friend: lol no, they look like shit

This pisses me off so fucking much.
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>>344543007
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>Fallout 3 is better than NV
One of my oldest friends is committed to this belief wholeheartedly and it can be really irritating to listen to him sometimes.
>Mortal Kombat is the best fighting game out there and Street Fighter is shit.
My old roommate. Love him like a brother, but man, fuck you Bobby, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>gearbox is not satan
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>>344542830
All of these are fun in their own way.
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>>344541534
Not him but
>Watered down RPG elements, no classes
>Melee combat is absolute shit
>Magic is underpowered in general
>Dragons are little bitches
>Plot is shit, there is never any sense of urgency or threat, nothing changes in the world as you progress
>Voice acting is bland as fuck
>More big bugs than Australia
>Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with melee combat?
>Ugly ass textures
>Can't kill NPCs nor children
>Can become archmage without using magic, similar cases for other factions
>Bandits will still try to mug level 1928 dragonborn in Daedra armor
>Like, really, melee combat is just 2 attacks for all the weapons, animations are recycled
>Villagers will fight dragons
>99% of quests is "Go into a dungeon and kill Draugr, sometimes a Falmer"
>Low enemy variety
>Low weapon/armor count
>Can't create spells anymore
>No polearms
>Did I mention combat is shit?
>The world levels with the player, kinda.
>Stealth is broken
>Civil war is just "kill 10 guards in 3 different locations"
>Civil war doesn't affect anything
>Only thing that changes in the game seems to be guard dialogue for that matter
>Loot is leveled and doesn't change depending on your skills
>Races are unbalanced as fuck
>No level cap, you can master everything
>Perks are alway boring shit like "25% less mana cost" or "10% chance to crit"
>Increasing difficulty only makes enemies deal more damage while reducing yours
>Braindead AI
>One of the worst bossfights ever conceived
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>>344538057

>X is the DARK SOULS of vidya gaem genre

I want it to just stop.
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>>344541392
I don't know dude, it may get damn boring but it's undenyably fun, and the main reason people who once played it don't play it is the stigma
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>>344543127
Ni No Kuni is allright.
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>>344542425
I'm harder on myself, than my friends are.
>Have to go for 30 seconds to answer the door
>"Oh god I ruined everything we're so behind now because of me, GG, sorry guys."
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>A game surprising you is bad
Wipe this meme etc.
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>>344542961
derail is a terrible map, it has no continuity. there's just two buildings where campers snipe each other, and a massive empty space on the west and east sides of the map.
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>>344543047
>My children's party game is so much more refined than that other children's party game.

Smash communities formed only out of the remnants of tryhards who were too shit to learn other fighting games but wanted to feel good about themselves.
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>>344543185
90% of that applies to oblivion as well
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>Japanese games are better than Western games

This shit infuriates me since nearly all the newer Jap games are either trying to be the next Final Fantasy or generic fuckboi protag with a vast harem of waifubait
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>>344543185
Don't forget that the fight with Alduin is easier than the fight with Tsun.
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>>344541539
Not them, but you don't have to be friendless to not have 1-3 friends to play with at the drop of a hat
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>>344540045
The Persona series has one of the best turn based combat system ever. Check them out.
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>>344543212
M8 SMT IV is the Dark Souls of Persona
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>>344541018
I liked the relationship between Booker and Elizabeth, the conflicted exsoldier who keeps saying he's in it for himself while getting dragged deeper into things and the unassuming girl whose innocence we see fade and die. I liked that their adult relationship is as marked by betrayal as their older relationship was, how cyclical it was: Booker loses her through greed and returns to save her through love.

I liked seeing the supposedly utopian society as it WANTED to be seen initially, then seeing it crack and crumble, then seeing its seedy underbelly, then watching as it all went down in flames. Compare that to Rapture, where we see the ending first and not the city as it wanted to be seen. Don't get me wrong, that's great, too, but there's a difference between walking through a crime scene and having the blinders pulled away.

I liked the twins and their dynamic. They were unapologetically weird and proud of their achievements and I liked that. Rosalind being her own best friend was both cute and understandable, considering how she sticks out from her society.

I loved the artstyle and how open the city was. I liked the skyhook usage and how it added an extra dimension to battles and movement that was lacking in Rapture, but at the same time kept you contained. It fits their respective locations to have Colombia appear free but it isn't while Rapture is openly confined, and I liked that that bit of storytelling and building atmosphere was a part of the gameplay.

I liked that, though we are intended to feel sympathy for those whom Colombia despises and drains, at the same time the Vox Populi are so terribly violent that you can't really side with them, while Booker is self- and then Elizabeth-serving, and Elizabeth, one of the few characters who actually wants to help, only succeeds in making things worse. I liked that there was that constant tension between wanting to help, not knowing who to help, and not knowing whether it will make things better.
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>>344543127
>Ni No Kuni
So much this. I dropped that game hard in the ding dong dell sewers because I realized it wasn't fun at all
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>MGSV is good and has great gameplay
>Quiet was a good and interesting character
>Peace Walker was good
>MGS3 is the best in the series
>DmC was a good/okay game
>DMC1 is the best in the series
>For Answer is the best in the series
>AC6 is on-par with the Holy Trinity
>the only thing bad in ME3 is the ending
>3rd strike is the best fighting game
>ZoE2 is fucking amazing and you can't criticize it
>LoL is shit b-b-b-but Dota2 is totally legit
>Telltale games aren't games but VNs are
>God Hand has bad controls
Truly these people are worse than Hillary Clinton.
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>>344543212
The worst is comparing ANY third person beat em up or Hack & Slash to Dark Souls.

Some retard was saying Rayman 3 was very similar to Dark Souls the other day.
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>>344539402
This, dehsu
WoW did a lot of things right for the first time, and honestly I still think it's the most polished MMO out there, and while it's fine to compare things to it a lot of people don't understand that it borrowed many of its aspects from other MMOs that came before it.

On that same thread,
>"[MMORPG game] has no content"
>playerbase is a bunch of munchkins who skip all the content to be rewarded faster
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>>344538057
>FFXII is shit
>I want shit dialogue, stupid love interests and a cringeworthy cast like FFVII, VIII and FFX
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>>344542961
Derail is notoriously horrible. Not saying terminal is amazing but cmon
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>Zelda is a girls game
>all Zelda games were shit
You know when I was younger NO females played games. Just cause it's trendy now shouldn't take away from such a solid series. Hell Star Wars is trendy now and I guarantee you 20 years ago that wouldn't be the case.
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>>344539602
What if
What if a girl hated Infinite and loved 1
What if a girl had the Chain tatoo from 1 on her wrist
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>>344543492
>LoL is shit b-b-b-but Dota2 is totally legit
In Dota 2 you can start a new account and fight against everyone else on even terms. In LoL you can't until you've played hundreds of games. That's why Dota is 'legit' you filthy pleb.
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>>344543257
alright, but nothing more

it's a slog to play, but it's pretty charming
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>>344538057
>Thinking that an older game in a series is better because the UI is less intuitive
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>Teamwork is a skill
It legitimately infuriates me when people believe that they're doing well when one or two of their team members are pulling all the weight, or worse yet they're all below mediocre but will always fight with three or four people.

Its a shame because i like the games that cause this.
Halo 5: Guardians has it, mainly in Wazone.
Overwatch has it.
DotA2 and League have it.
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>>344541534
It was kinda fun for the first 5-6 hours, but then you start noticing that everything in the world is copypasted, the customization doesn't really provide any depth, the characters and writing are all shit, and let's be honest even in 2011 it ran and looked kinda shit.

This is somethings that your friends will not understand because their idea of playthrough is skyping with their friends/listening to some twitch meme podcast while playing for 1-2 hours that are constantly interrupted by facebooking on their phone and then going back to playing LoL for the rest of the evening. This is now your "fellow gamer" and the target audience for games. Sometimes I think that they don't even design these games with the idea of the player actually finishing the game in mind.
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>>344543746
ASSFAGGOTS are cancer and so are you.
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>>344543705
>Hell Star Wars is trendy now and I guarantee you 20 years ago that wouldn't be the case.
Are you stupid, anon?
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>>344542129
Mem Aleph is a fucking bitch mate
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>>344543492
>MGSV is good and has great gameplay
>>Quiet was a good and interesting character
>>Peace Walker was good
>>MGS3 is the best in the series
>>DmC was a good/okay game
These are all correct though. You need to stop thinking in hyperbole and understand what "good" means
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>>344540286
this reminds me of that spongebob scene
>is this your wallet?
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>>344543569
Is that the robot who killed a nigger the other day?
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>>344542251
I had that conversation with an ex-friend over this shit recently because I refused to buy an early access he tried to shill to me, where I told him I refused to buy any Early Access games after Starbound and Cube World, and then he accused me of not liking videogames at all because I also refuse to support shitty companies like EA.
Then he had the gall to link to a tumblr blog where a dev justified every shitty penny-pinching decision on the face of the earth, like how "early access is perfectly fine because there's no such thing as a finished game", cutting out content to release as day 1 DLC, and how I'm not allowed to say anything negative because I never worked in the industry.
That was the last day he was on my friends list.
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>>344542254
That guy doesn't even play video games
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>>344543257
Well yeah, but it's not a groundbreaking masterpiece purely because Ghibli were involved (and they weren't with the PS3 version; read: the one everyone played). There are so many little things wrong with it that make it a chore to play at times.
>Brain dead AI who burn through their MP and familiars like nothing and never bother to actually change them and just stand there pegging enemies for 1 HP of damage
>Criminally low rate of catching familiars which are usually killed by your retarded AI partners when you get the chance to catch them
>Tedious back and forth fetch quests
>Obviously tacked on White Witch subplot (and I mean almost quite literally stapled to it).
> Counter intuitive battle menu that has you scrambling to defend yourselves at literally half a second's notice for a boss's AoE attack; AI just flat out doesn't do it
>Unlock the All-Defend option literally one boss fight after it would have been fucking useful
>Familiar evolutions are just recolours

I mean I finished it but fucking hell it was frustrating. Felt like a more annoying Rogue Galaxy
It's fucking sad that POLYGON of all places gave it a fair review.
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>>344542254
>That guy who researches what other people think of the game before possibly wasting his money on it

What's the problem you fag?
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>>344543924
Forgot to remove the parts about quiet and mgs3
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>>344543697
>>344543323
My point was that even a shit map like Derail is less cancerous than what is basically a MOBA tri-lane level design of Terminal
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>>344543598
>WoW did a lot of things right for the first time

The thing is that WoW did nothing for the first time. It was an Everquest Clone. There's nothing in wow that was new when wow used it.

>I still think it's the most polished MMO out there

It's a 10 years old game with hundreds of patches. Of course it's polished. But when it was released it was a bugfest and every time an expansion is released we have thousands of bugs and problems.

What I hate is when people compare NEW MMO's with wow expecting a new game will have the content and the polishment of 10 years worth of patches and contents.

>Hey, this new MMO has been just released, how's it?
>"It's shit, it only have 10 dungeons and 2 raids. WoW has 100 dungeons and 50 raids now so wow is better"
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>>344543356
I like traditional fighting games too.

The gameplay in melee and P.M. Is much more fun even in a casual setting.
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>Fallout 4 is the best in the series due to its innovative FPS mechanics
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>>344543812
>implying playing as a team does not require a special kind of skill
>even in ASSFAGGOTS
you're just a run of the mill k/d whore aren't you
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>mass effect 1 is the best in the series
No it isn't. The overall plot might be slightly more interesting than 2 or 3, but the characters are worse, the gunplay is below irredeemable, and the Mako is clunky and unfun. The planet exploration is also kind of ass since they all feel exactly the fucking same, even though there is some interesting stuff like the promethean artifact.
2>>>>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 desu
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>>344543212
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>Dark Souls 1 is the best souls game

No its not shut the fuck up its undeniably one of the worst. Demons Souls is the only worse one.
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>>344543448
It's literally a dumbed down, braindead version of SMT's system. Neck yourself.
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>>344544315

BB > DaS > DaS3 > DaS2 > DeS
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>>344543705
>Star Wars is trendy now and I guarantee you 20 years ago that wouldn't be the case.
uh
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>>344543389
Sure, but this is on top of Oblivion's streamlining.
So Skyrim is 190% more shit than Morrowind
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OC do not steal
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>>344543924
A random shit down the designated Indian street has more value than you. You're a subhuman.
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>>344543954
Yes.

R2DINDU is dead but C3N3GR0 will carry on his legacy.
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>>344544225
>you're just a run of the mill k/d whore aren't you
There's a difference between having the skills to coordinate as a team, and forcing 3 on 1 engages because you've missed every shot/every skill/were outskilled in every way imaginable besides "the skill of being pre-made with your team".
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>>344544263
Nothing wrong with this one.
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