Continuation of >>344506154
More lore talk, more stupid stuff, and more Blizz Bashing.
I would fuck a Tauren babe.
I want to be a random retard who is just in the world, I don't want to be the HERO OF AZEROTH.
I WANT TO BE A NOBODY
someone please provide source.
>>344536479
The Demon Hunter in the Blasted Lands who's now in the body of a Dreadlord is this guy, called Loramus Thalipedes.
He's a vendor in the DH class hall.
>>344536571
Pretty sure every race in WoW has someone who would fuck them.
>>344536662
Nice to see him back.
I miss when maps weren't drawn with potatoes so everything could fit into neat zones.
>>344536580HUH[crackling noises]
>>344536662
I remember him in Azshara.
Seeing a Demon Hunter with 3 demon pets in WoW was cool.
>>344536571
who wouldn't?
>>344536884
GARRISONS LEAVE
>>344536990
paying for name change dont worry
>doing a pre-patch quest for Legion
>some demon says to kill Khadgar because Gul'dan wants his head
>Khadgar says to tell Gul'dan that he's grown rather attached to it
Khadgar cheeky as ever
>>344536795
I'm still annoyed that Blizzard's got a damn mountain fetish. Zones don't need mountain ranges around them.
>>344536638
just use tinyeye and you will get your source. Not that hard
>>344536662
Oh ok, that is pretty shitty then. This whole corruption and uncorrupting people must make Metzen a happy man
Well after a long ass time my 36 Gig download of WoW is finally done.
I haven't played since early cata. I got the WoW code from seeing the movie(I hope it actually gives gametime ayy).
What zones are worth checking out now? I didn't do much in the remade cata world.
>>344537138
Khadgar and Gul'dan were the best things to come out of WoD, even with Khadgar having the 'ONE HUNDRED AND TWENT YEIGHT ABROGATOR STONES!' issue.
>>344537230
>I hope it actually gives gametime ayy).
it gives you a free month (and a account with wod)
i just used it to bot for 3 weeks after leveling up
But seriously guys guys!
What if we what if we seriously had..Gumpiercings
>>344536884
>old models
Absolutely disgusting.
>>344537147
might as well spoonfeed me. I get nuffin
>Planets are now just titans
>Tirion dies
>Varian dies
>Tirion, Whitemane, Trollbane, and Irrelevant Orc General are now the new Four Horsemen
>Bolvar is taking action as the Lich King and he's using the Scourge to fight the Legion
>Kel'Thuzad is ressurected, again.
>Artifact weapons are literally... "A Brave Adventurer comes along to x Heroes' side and they give them the Legendary Weapon! y!"
>Everyone gets a Ashbringer
>Genn Greymane is the new Leader of the Alliance and Anduin gets cucked
>Sylvanas is the new Warqueen of the Horde
>Warlord's of Draenor???
>Holy Dreadlord
>Holy Demon Hunter(Illidan in the new warcraft novel gets blessed by a Naaru)
>Sargeras was actually a good guy all along trying to destroy the shadow because only the holy light should exist
>Instead of the shadow being a passive entity like The Light it's actually something manipulated by the "Void Gods"
>Old Gods are now bitches compared to them
>That godawful new movie
>>344537230
Check: Vashjir,Uldum,Thunder island, Jade Forest and new Nagrand.
>>344537230
From Cata onwards:
>Hyjal is neat
>Vashj'ir is the alternative, kinda weird but cool
>Deepholm was amazing
>Uldum's okay
>All of the MoP zones are decent
>Kun-lai Summit is one of the best zones in the game
>WoD zones are boring after one run
>>344537361
its fucking wow, it looks like shit anyway, if i wanted good graphics i would mod crysis,, not a game where i want to see 500 vs 500 players on screen
Would you
>>344537461
I hate Metzen
>>344537513
>>All of the MoP zones are decent
yea , i love escorting shit pandas for minutes so i could finish the quests
>>344537620
This meme needs to die, Metzen is barely working on WoW anymore, he's been too busy with the Warcraft movie, bookshit and Overwatch
Afrasiabi is the one creating the story
>>344537620
Metzen does not work for Blizzard anymore dude
>>344537796
Can we talk about how Hanzo is Metzen's new Self-insert?
I mean seriously he looks exactly like him.
>>344537932
No, it's Soldier 76. He named him after a shitty character from a shitty comic book he made a long time ago.
>>344537461
>Genn Greymane is the new Leader of the Alliance and Anduin gets cucked
What sort of brain addled subhumans write WoW's shitty story nowdays? At what point did they ask themselves who to lead the factions and decided to use a lying whore that everyone hates and an asshole who just joined and hates everyone.
>>344537461
>World Souls (Titans) are extremely rare, Azeroth being the first found in a very long time after the Pantheon
>Tirion isn't a Horsemen, Liadrin uses a Light Ex Machina to kick the DKs out. Darion takes his place.
>Nobody really knows what Bolvar's doing, he's fighting the Legion but also being a bit shady.
>Kel'Thuzad isn't back.
>Most Artifacts involve raiding Tombs rather then being given
>Only Retadins get the Ashbringer
>Implying Anduin would make a proper leader at this time
>Sylvanas is likely gonna step down to either returned Vol'jin or Saurfang
>AU Draenor still fixing its shit
>Turalyon grands a Dreadlord
>Taking the red herring
>Sargeras is still evil, he's just slightly justified in trying to murser all of reality.
>The Dark/Void is still passive, Void Lords are just the Naaru of the Dark
>Old Gods are like limbs to the Void Lords
>Movie was meh
Fight me.
>>344537680
thanks famalamadingdongding
>>344537461
Wait wait wait, kel thuzad is back?...
>>344538149
>Lying Whore
Nobody knows she's lying. It'll make her fall all the better when they do
>Asshole who just joined
Genn's been around since the Second War, as I recall. Maybe even before then. The only person in the Alliance who didn't like him was Varian who was being a pissy brat about it. Of all the human leaders Genn's the best.
>>344538358
he's shitposting
>>344538358
No, he's still MIAuntil next X-pac where he allies with Azshara and splits the Scourge. Anub'arak will also be HIS liutenant now.
>tfw being a warrior
>Donut steel artifacts
>Zero lore characters in the order hall
>An order hall that's also used as a dungeon
>>344538483
He didn't help the Alliance in the Second War and he shut himself off like a bitch in the Third. There is no reason to choose him over, well, every other leader.
>>344538631
>Arms can get a hidden appearance to get an Arcanite Reaper
>Quest to get it involves dueling Saurfang as I recall
>Weapon itself scares the fuck out of Troll NPCs
Arms is gonna be so silly.
>>344538156
you seem like a reasonable person
>>344538780
I aint that guy but his plan ultimately worked. It stopped both the orcs and the scourge getting gileas, had stormminge and lordaeron done the same they might've been in a better position.
and don't bother bringing up the worgen, I understand that the wall got them screwed from the inside but the objective of genns plan was to stop orcs and the scourge.
and even then being turned to worgen worked out in their favor.
>>344538780
>Tyrande and Malfurion dealing with Val'sharah
>Velen getting too old for this shit and packing up the Exodar
>Magni returns and leaves to begin preparing for something big
>Three Hammers is in political tension because of it
>Mekkatorque is just looking out for the Gnomes
>Anduin is Anduin
>Jaina is full on DISMANTLE mode.
>Genn is actually pretty level-headed and attracts numerous other kingdoms like Kul Tiras now that he's actually fighting
Literally every reason.
>>344538809
Is that true?
>>344539203
His plan worked, but he's still an asshole.
>>344538809
Shit son, dueling saurfang? Sign me up.
>>344539247
Kul Tiras is back?
How do you guys keep up with the lore?
Do you have to play through each expansion and each class to get everything?
>>344539398
Read the books and listen to the quest dialogue. THat's it. Classes have nothing to do with it.
>>344539279
The first and third point I know are true. Heard about the quest but still a bit iffy. Pic related is one of the other colorations, it starts out red
>>344539349
Datamining shows NPCs with the Kul Tiras title are in, primarily Marines. Nobody with a name yet, though.
>mfw Sargeras could probably just completely annihilate Azeroth if he wanted to
>mfw Scepter of Sargeras artifact history says that he wants to make Azeroth his after seeing the titan's true form
>mfw Azeroth is Sargeras' waifu
>>344539505
I hated playing prot in WoD so I think I'll switch to arms if that's the case
>>344539629
Honestly if he could convice her to side with him the Void Lords wouldn't stand a chance
>>344539247
I like it that Genn keeps things together and acting from the worst case scenario of horde backstabbing, might be abit hardline but it's hell of a lot better than standing around like a lame rooster.
>>344539398
I've been playing WoW for a long time so I know most of the lore but honestly, just ignore it because it gets quite random at many points.
>>344539906
Seems like they deliberately choose Genn because he has a personal vendetta against Sylvannas. He's in the Broken Isles mostly to chase down Sylvannas and fight the Horde, providing the motivation for PvP objectives there.
>>344539331
>Saurfang was once ordered by Thrall to punch one of Orgrimmar's walls. This created Ragefire Chasm.
>Saurfang can cleave Azeroth and hit Outland
>The Deeprun Tram was made when Saurfang charged from Ironforge to Stormwind
>Saurfang demans six hours of meditation every week. Thus, Tuesday Maintenance was born.
>>344540346
Are you twelve?
>>344540421
I wish
>>344540421
No, I'm really fucking tired and WoWHead comments look funnier there.
>>344540264
Yeah.. i wonder why i still care about this shitfest, Seven expansions in and it's just.. to fuck things up this badly you need to Try to fail.
>>344539349
Considering geography evolution in warcraft Gilneas will have a land connection with dun morgon in 2-3 expansions and Kul'Tiras will be seen from the coasts of echo isles.
>>344539247
Mekkatorque seems to be quite involved in the alliance's military ops lately. Storming Ogrimmar and aiding at the Broken Shores.
>>344540505
I've never understood this all Elves leaving and "passing at the end of an age"..Nigger you have the power to build the greatest civilization on the face of the (middle)earth. Why Leave to just go boating to some place no one heard about.
Alliance plz replace the Night Elves wholesale with the Nightborne. Purple junkies are not better than purple hippies but at least their architecture is far more pretty.
>>344541029
That's just blue blood elf architecture
>>344541029
>implying that isn't just belf architecture with a paint of blue
You should try horde sometime ;^ )
>>344541136
>>344541309
That's the point.
>tfw really like Demon Hunters
>tfw know it's gonna be the ultimate scrub class populated solely by the absolute bottom of the barrel shitters and stigmatized to hell and back for the entire expansion and I will never get a place in a proper raiding guild with the sheer overload of them
then again, I already mained a hunter so it's nothing new
>>344541354
belf shit can fuck off
Anyone here played the beta? How is warrior and druid tanking in Legion? About the same as it was in WoD?
>>344540759
>Blizzdrone reacts to literature
>>344537138
>Later takes his head off and puts it in a bubble
>While going through his junk he comes across apexis crystals, says we don't need them
anybody knows a good blizz like tbc server?
i just dont feel like paying 12 dollars for time
Has any character been treated so poorly as this one? I feel like Blizzard tries their best to forget he existed.
>>344541526
Duncan Jones is literally not an old white man in the trenches of World War 1 though
>>344540759
because magic was fading, humans were increasing and the elves were slowly dying out because of their low numbers. The elves loved middle earth because they were born there, but if they lived there, they would have to suffer. They persisted so long in middle earth because they loved it, but by the end of the third age, the sindar and noldor were too few. They were perpetually living in the past and using their magic rings to hold on to it desperately. Once the one ring was destroyed, all the glories of the elves starting from their awakening started to grow stale.
The world had literally outgrown them. Thats what makes it so sad. Its like growing up and moving away from the place you have lived for all your life.
>>344537278
YES GOOD DAY HERO!
I NEED 900 STONES TO MAKE THESE THREE TABLETS. WHILE YOU'RE AT IT GET ME THIS ENTIRELY RANDOM APEXIS CRYSTAL NUMBER AND 33 TOMES OF CHAOS!
Don't forget to bring me Blackhand's arm while you're out, alright? Alright.
>they still havent added the NE's main structure to the game
>>344541872
>now, I normally wouldn't ask you to assault a heavily fortified, moving train but... Well no, this is exactly the sort of thing I'm going to ask of you. All the time
Khadgar was so good
>>344541881
Most of the Wisps blew up at the end of WC3.
>>344541881
>the night elf theme starts playing in your head.
I just want to go back to those days ;_;
>>344541526
Point out what's wrong here.
He's saying he's coming from a different position to Tolkein and is naturally going to make a different product
>>344541629
You do know that J.R.R. Tolkein wasn't either though right? And he did a lot more to learn about culture than Jones ever will
>>344542020
Honestly the best part of the whole expansion was Khadgar.
Hope he still plays a big part in Legion, as long as he isn't going to make me go on another shopping list errand run.
>>344542176
I don't think a sci fi director that got roped into an already written movie adaption of a video game needed to learn much about """culture"""
Christ you're autistic. You might as well ignore every single fantasy story ever written because it's not muh Tolkien
I AM KHADGAR
HOW ARE YOU
>>344542176
>reading about tolkien
>when he describes his wife when he was recuperating
>when she dies before him
>>344542362
I miss that beard
>>344537138
Oh, so they actually remembered Khadgar existed in WoD? Next thing you'll be telling me that Saurfang left Northrend
>>344537796
he stopped working on that shit like, less than a year ago, and left less than a month ago. He's part of the shit, but i still think activision executives ruined blizzard far more than this guy did. he was just the best at sucking up.
>>344542530
Ironically enough, he wanted SC2 to be grittier and less fantasy. The stuff you see about jimmy being a drunken mess in WoL? it was metzen's idea.
>>344541391
>tfw DK
>tfwgoing to go DH next xpac
I'M EDGE.
DARKNESS AND ANGST INCARNATE.
I AM KHADGAR
IM SO PRETTY
IM SO CHARMING
IM A NERD JUST LIKE YOU
>>344542319
Then why is it okay for him to just say he's some old white man in the trenches of World War I and shit all over his books because warcraft has the power of "muh diversity"
Even though he wrote LotR after WWI and travelled the world learning new languages and about other cultures writing his books in the process.
And he was with that movie in production for a solid four years or so.
He didn't get "Roped in" he was already in on it.
>>344542176
You're missing the point.
He's just saying the tone is naturally going to be different because Tolkien has his own voice and he believes Warcraft does now, too.
So am I ever getting vanilla wow back?
I don't care if I have to pay for it
>>344542748
>and shit all over his books because warcraft has the power of "muh diversity"
I don't remember him saying this
>>344542530
Dunno, it's not like Blizzards plot devices changed much since the days of SC1. That's precisely why they became so incredibly stale - they didn't learn anything in those 20 years, just reusing same shit over and over again.
>>344542654
>those cringeworthy allusions to him being the next guardian every time Medivh and him are together on screen
>>344536601
>I WANT TO BE A NOBODY
You already are
>>344542903
Probably not
>>344542903
When Legion inevitably bombs, yes. Blizzard will have no other choice.
>>344542989
>>those cringeworthy allusions to him being the next guardian every time Medivh and him are together on screen
well they literally said he was training to be it at the start
>>344536601
>I don't want to be the HERO OF AZEROTH.
Why did you keep playing then? Why did you keep fighting and killing all the big bads if you didn't want to be a hero?
Why didn't you just stick to your professions like mom wanted?
>>344542903
They proabably will, the question is just when
Blizzard has said that WoW is almost about 50% finished, meaning that we have around 12 years more of expansions and patches and shit.
If Legion fails like WoD did than you might get it within 2 years, but if it's succesful then you might have to wait a loooooong time
>>344543124
They're dirty peasant roleplayers prolly
>>344543120
Then why did they need to remind us about it every 10 minutes? It's not like it becomes relevant in the movie itself.
>>344543124
maybe he wanted to help the "bad guys"
>>344542443
Current Leader of Orgrimmar
>>344543293
I think it's perfectly natural in the way it came up to be honest
>"wow I'm fucking shit and can't leave this tower"
>"so why don't you let the kid protect them instead?"
>"wow what the fuck you're reading my books without my permission you don't own this place yet"
etc etc
>>344543124
Because now the story revolves around the almighty player instead of the world
>YOU are the commander
>YOU are the chosen one
>YOU are the wielder of the most powerful weapon in the world
It sucks
>>344543124
You're just a random grunt alongside 24 other random grunts. Did the footmen that killed the big bads in the RTS games become characters too?
where the elves at
>>344543542
Is that why all the lore characters still play a part? You taking a back seat with a little more power every expansion isn't the same as the world revolving around you.
The player is given more liberties and shit every expansion but the story still belongs to the characters who have helped us kill the big bads in every expansion.
>>344543660
Some did, like Falric and Marwyn. Then there's Nazgrim and Commander Taylor.
>>344543660
well, kinda.
>>344543542
After all the leveling you do, you deserve a little bit of recognition.
You start a nobody. After Outland and Northrend they start to notice you. After the work you do during the Cataclysm and literally saving the world, they're pretty impressed. After the Pandaria campaign they think you should lead. And after the Legion invasion they see you as one of your class's best heroes.
It's natural progression. It'd be stupid to not be considered a huge deal at this point.
>>344536601
>killed Ragnaros the firelord
>killed Old god C'thun
>killed Lichs kings right hand
I JUST WANNA BE NOBODY LIKE VANILLA
Are nostalgia people really this mentally ill ?
>>344543660
Well, Falric in Halls of Reflection is the Captain from the Warcraft III Human missions.
ever since Cata, I've gone through the same cycle:
1) don't play launch, can't be arsed with the leveling holocaust during the first few weeks
2) get into the game late, level, do dungeons with the bros etc.
3) I'm a hardcore raider at heart, so after getting bored of 5man shit, I build my own raids/join a good raiding guild
4) get bored of things during last tier, quit.
5) rinse and repeat
is Legion gonna be the same? feels like WoW is just utter shit at being a game for non-raiders.
>>344544274
they're trying to address that problem precisely, with lot of focus on solo and 5-man content so raiding won't be the only way to improve your character.
>>344541603
How about any tauren character?
>Cairne died in patch notes
>Magatha pulls of a coup that goes nowhere and ends up sitting in Thousand Needles, twiddling her thumbs.
>Baine ends up defending the guy who killed his dad.
>Dezco crushes one of his own children while trying to protect him.
>Tauren tend to get lore that involves them being massacred or killed in brutal ways.
>>344543807
>a little more power every expansion
See, this was how it started. You were just a grunt picking berries and killing animals, then you did that so much you got to go off to Outland. After that your big reward was skipping the queue in Northrend because a guy recognised you from Outland. It felt natural and made sense for an MMO.
Suddenly Cataclysm came along and you were a massive fucking deal that Thrall was sucking off and the chosen champion of your faction or some shit. That just carried over to the next two expansions and is getting dialed up to 11 with Legion
>mfw Legion continues the self-masturbatory plot where the player is LE CHOSEN OEN!!!111!!!!!11
Who the fuck likes this kind of insultingly bad writing?
>>344543807
Yeah man, I really liked how Vol'jin played a part in Draenor, by vistting my garrison now and then.
Or, uh...
Uh....
>>344544654
>>344544210
>picking berries and killing animals
Yeah, sure thing kiddo. Let's not pretend that the raids in Vanilla didn't exist before Outland came.
>>344544854
>Let's not pretend that the raids in Vanilla didn't exist before Outland came.
and you were still a fucking nobody
You don't run up to Ragnaros and challenge him to a duel with your hands tied behind your back in the raids, do you? You're just one of many people attacking him all at once.
>>344545019
it's still like that with you getting more attention. You did something that nobody on the whole Azorth globe was able to do and that is killing at the time a freaking primal elemental lord and later was able to defeat something that the fucking titans had problems with aka old gods.
Stop living in your little delusional world nostfuck
>>344544659
You see, We are going to save the world atleast twice more before Jaina goes off the deep end and finally fucks over the Warcraft Timeline by tricking us to assault the Bronze Dragonflight and changing an outcome of the Third War.
>>344545194
>You did something that nobody on the whole Azorth globe was able to do and that is killing at the time a freaking primal elemental lord and later was able to defeat something that the fucking titans had problems with aka old gods.
and then get asked to pick berries and kill animals again by literal nobodies until the next raid, where you and a bunch of other nobodies group up to take on somebody.
can you name every single person that was involved in the raid on Sadam Hussein's house?
>>344545194
So these are the people Blizzard panders to with their nonstop player cocksucking? Absolutely disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself my man.
>>344544210
Those things are pretty much nobodies. And the NPCs never referred to you as some kind of hero on the level of the ones from WC3.
>>344544610
boy I bet they're glad they joined up with the Orcs to help them out with a tiny conflict all those years ago
>>344544274
the first week of a exp launch its the only fun part of the game where it doesn't feel dead , and it feels like a mmo
>>344545194
>that is killing at the time a freaking primal elemental lord
You don't kill him, you just banish him back to his dimension.
>>344543986
For me, the problem isn't the recognition, but how poorly a job Blizzard does in making quest text be dynamic enough that NPCs "remember" you. If you run into an important lore figure for the first time in a new zone, the best you're going to get is a, "It's good to see you, <name>," regardless of your previous standing with that character.
The most recent example I can think of is that worgen chick, Fiona. I rode all around the Eastern Plaguelands in her gypsy wagon with her belf and dwarf bodyguards, and the quest chain actually made it seem like they became your friends. Then you run into them again in Draenor and they DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE YOU. All you get is the generic, "Oh, it's the commander!" and that's all.
For how often Blizzard puts in meaningless shit like, "I haven't seen a <race> like you in a while!" you'd think they could do a little extra work and alter some NPCs' dialogue for if you've already assisted them previously.
>>344545470
>>344545351
I am not defending the whole LEADER OF YOUR CLASS. But pretending that killing an old god is a simple thing and that in itself still makes you an adventure is fucking autistic and you people know it.
>>344545569
Blizzards writing has been fucking horrible since the start of WoW. Every single thing you did in TBC was because you needed to get closeer to defeating guy from Wc3 that you might remember.
>>344545754
Nobody knew that in Vanilla. That is something they wrote in Cata.
They going to do Kul Tiras with a Patch
I'm feeling it. Mainly because There are Kul Tiras marines in Azsuna during a quest.
>>344545832
>Nobody knew that in Vanilla. That is something they wrote in Cata.
Did you join the game in Cata? Literally everyone knew that in Vanilla you dopey cunt.
>>344545832
>But pretending that killing an old god is a simple thing
?
Arthas and Anub'arak killed one in WC3.
>>344545975
please link then, because they never said anything about only banishing him in Vanilla. Giving us back Ragnaros in Firelands was something they wrote in later that the elemental lords can't be killed in our dimension/world.
>sylvanas becomes warchief
>horde gets exclusive [Superior Morale] buff increasing stamina by 10%.
>>344545884
>Jaina turning Kul Tiras into her personal army.
>You have to storm Kul Tiras to put her down while getting catch-up epics.
>Something like Zul'Aman 10m.
>>344546150
>Giving us back Ragnaros in Firelands was something they wrote in later that the elemental lords can't be killed in our dimension/world.
lol no it wasn't, that's been in the game the whole time.
>>344546151
>Sylvanas covers up her belly button
>Horde gets "fuck this SJW shit" stamina -1000%
>>344546098
No they didn't
>>344545797
Reminds me of my favorite Goblin Character, Sassy Hardwrench. If you play a Goblin, She will freak out with joy and call you Boss again. Not shared with the quests, But I liked that and I wanted to see more of her in Warcraft.
>>344546410
>tfw the urges are coming back
so tempted to re-sub when pre-patch comes out despite wanting to die of boredom 2 weeks after draenor
they keep fucking getting me
>>344546098
That was a minion. there are 4 old gods. all placed around Azeroth.
C'thun in Kalimdor
Yogg in Northrend
N'Zoth in eastern kingdom and around vashj'ir in the water
Y'Shaarj in Pandaria
>>344546306
Nope, The archdruids Malf and Hamuul Runetotem told us later when Fandral staghelm got corrupted that Rag was still around and killing him in Blackrock only banished him.
>>344546556
>forgotten one
>not understanding that Anub'araks was in war with the old gods minions
lel
>>344546556
Not an old god you faggot
>>344546732
>Nope, The archdruids Malf and Hamuul Runetotem told us later when Fandral staghelm got corrupted that Rag was still around and killing him in Blackrock only banished him.
>told us
Can you Blizzdrones stop referring to your character as "us" and "we" when talking about lore, you autistic gays.
And you're wrong, it was always in the game. You just didn't know because you never played vanilla.
>>344546768
Yes it is.
>>344544610
>Dezco crushes one of his own children while trying to protect him.
wait, WHAT?
>>344547063
No it isn't and you don't know any Warcraft lore
Only 1/4 old gods are dead and it wasnt killed by Arthas
>>344546979
I said "us" because that is the one he's talking about when blizzard tries to justifies their reason for bringing back Ragnaros.
But keep your faggorty contained on twitter where you can jerk of to your ebin youtuber and old WoW devs about "the golden age of wow" that never was vanilla because the best one wasTBCwith its horrible writing.
>>344547304
>No it isn't and you don't know any Warcraft lore
>I know because I read Wowwiki
lol
C'thun was a forgotten one. So was Yogg Saron.
>>344547459
>But keep your faggorty contained on twitter where you can jerk of to your ebin youtuber and old WoW devs about "the golden age of wow" that never was vanilla because the best one was TBC with its horrible writing.
Project harder child
>I said "us" because
You say "us" because you're a faggot who self inserts into the game.
Go play on a Vanilla server and find out you're wrong.
>>344547517
Nope, Yogg-saron and C'thun are old gods
There's only 1 dead Old God and that is Y'Shaarj
>>344547517
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WoW+Old+gods
>>344547198
Blizzard wrote that story in some shitty short novel with him having to sacrifice one of his children to some pandarian lady because he was sick. if I remember correctly that is
>>344547627
>I do love my hardcore mage and that frostbolt spam
>hunter auto attack because mana problems
>shadowbolt spamm because curses took too much space for other debuffs
>Buffadins
>Waterstations
>Feral druidsLEL
>>344546219
>Kul'Tiras the one of the strongest human nations that pretty much solo stalled the horde in WCII long enough for gul'dan to fuck off and ruin everything for everyone.
>Wiped off the map in WoW and ignored for a decade because 'umies already have a city
>We could potentially storm it in legion because Jaina wants to kill the dindus.
I would riot.
Also has anyone else noticed how our Gul'dan was a second string villain who succeeded in pretty much nothing and killed himself like a moron. Blizzard sort of accidentally made him the warlock 'face' and have been trying to retroactively make him seem like a badass.
>>344548321
>Also has anyone else noticed how our Gul'dan was a second string villain who succeeded in pretty much nothing and killed himself like a moron. Blizzard sort of accidentally made him the warlock 'face' and have been trying to retroactively make him seem like a badass.
Blizzard are incapable of making "badass" characters, yet they keep on trying so hard to do so.
Remember Yrel? They even ruined Khadgar too by turning him into this ebin so quirky xDDD Mary Sue. Hate it when they keep on shoving characters down player's throats nonstop.
>>344548321
Yeah, he even took Ner'zhul's place in the warcraft movie as the guy that led orcs to azeroth. I dunno what kind of vendetta Blizz has against poor Ner'zhul
>>344546219
>There were hits that Yogg still active during the Prequests of Dalaran Teleportaion
>Jaiana doesn't agree with Khadgar to let the Horde back to Dalaran and fucks off mad
>Jaina goes back to Kul Tiras to make an army to destroy Legion then the Horde
>Jaina is manipulated by Yogg
>>344536395
How can you argue that modern WoW is better than Vanilla/TBC when the game is completely dead due to lack of content and completely boneheaed design decisions like removing any kind of failure state and mobile minigames replacing all gameplay?
So what are the bets that sylvanas ends up going evil and becoming a boss at either the end of legion or whatever comes next?
>>344548556
Felt like Khadgar was the only thing that made WoD playable the first month because everything else was about fucking Orcs,orcs orcs and more orcs.
>>344548937
Zero chance, because blizzard is putting so much effort in marketing Sylvanas as one of the main characters in legion and she will probably get a poorly and cringe educed redemption arc.
>>344548937
Considering that she's been a kerrigan rip-off from day one the chances are zero. She's gonna be redeemed and will probably become the saviour of Azeroth to boot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMsCdc3OBG8
Fucking Blizzard does it again
>>344547997
>>I do love my hardcore mage and that frostbolt spam
>>hunter auto attack because mana problems
>>shadowbolt spamm because curses took too much space for other debuffs
>>Buffadins
>>Waterstations
>>Feral druids LEL
t. catababy
>>344549610
holy shit
>>344547967
Open your eyes.
>>344549610
Holy shit.
>>344545832
TBC's writing is god awful and doesn't get shit on nearly enough.
>a lieutenant of the Burning Legion found a way to reopen the Dark Portal and is invading Azeroth through it
>let's go through to Outland and kill Illidan for some reason
>>344544610
>Tauren tend to get lore that involves them being massacred or killed in brutal ways.
So exactly like the natives that they're based on
>>344548321
>Gul'dan was a second string villain who succeeded in pretty much nothing and killed himself like a moron
hol the fuck up nigga
>the FIRST orc warlock
>one of, if not the most powerful warlock ever bar maybe Kil'jaeden
>created the Horde, ogre magi, Death Knights and (albeit second hand) Demon Hunters
>>344549948
BC was a mistake, even Blizzard admits that.
>>344549990
>>one of, if not the most powerful warlock ever bar maybe Kil'jaeden
"no"
>>344550108
Every expansion was a fucking mistake. WoW should never have happened.
>>344549948
>let's go through to Outland and kill Illidan for some reason
Because Illidan attacked the naru/shattrath for some reason that they never bothered to explain
>>344549205
The problem was that it was supposed to be, But they didn't know how to vary it and keep it going. You can hardly figure out the Ogre narrative besides selling Enchantments to the IH like a retarded Dwarf kid.
Arrakoans were the best but it never fit in with the Warlords story and the end comes out of nowhere when you attack the Shattered Hand base. Nowhere else do we learn about the Shattered Hand and see their ways.
Talador doesn't have a presence besides Learning Blackrock, Even then it's more a mush of Draenei stuff, Shadow Council and a wasted plot line. Gorgrond was to be this huge Blackrock area where you could ride a train around the zone while helping Ogrim Doomhammer learn what they are doing is wrong and also learn more about the Blackrock and Gronn. But they did just 'Faralorn is shit, Lets add that story to Gorgrond' and have 'PLANTS AND ZOMBIES VS GIANTS!'
Shadowmoon teaches us of their clan, But it does remove the whole 'Great Siege of Karabor' in the Trailer. Whatever, It's the best zone with Frostfire being second since while Frostfire does everything right with what to do... It is a boring wasteland.
Nagrand I just fucking hate since I spent too much time their. It's a good zone that explains Warsong and Ogres and such... But it gave me sad Nessingwary who didn't have a big hunt, Had the shitty ending with Thrall cheating and I hated having to constantly go their for my fucking Archeology.
Why couldn't we have a silly raid with us going on a Big Hunt with Nessingwary to Faralorn to kill some Raid tier beasts?
>>344550287
WoW should have been on Steam, it was greedy as fuck of them to deny Gaben a cut of the profit of saving PC gaming.
>>344549610
>>344549973
>tauren now descend from the yak people instead of the other way around
but that's nothing compared to new troll lore that flat out says "oh yeah they didn't predate the titan's arrival silly, that's a lie also dark trolls are/were benevolent and kind!" when they were supposed to be the savagest
>>344550428
Valve should have been given all of Blizzard IP's. Imagine a Warcraft game made by people who actually give a shit about the community and lore.
>>344550326
>Because Illidan attacked the naru/shattrath for some reason that they never bothered to explain
An anon mentioned a demon hunter quest explains it was Kael'thas acting under Kil'jaeden, Illidan had nothing to do with the attack.
>>344550526
Valve should have been given every gaming IP.
>>344550403
>Why couldn't we have a silly raid with us going on a Big Hunt with Nessingwary to Faralorn to kill some Raid tier beasts?
>wanting more of those boring quests
>>344548556
On the plus side, Yrel led to more draenei artthat wasn't filthy horse cock shit
>>344550403
>Why couldn't we have a silly raid with us going on a Big Hunt with Nessingwary to Faralorn to kill some Raid tier beasts?
Or hunting with nessingwary would've made a great 5-man or scenario if they had bothered to make them relevant again
>>344550131
Name 2 more powerful.
>>344550326
How would we even know about that before we entered Outland and made it to the middle of the continent itself?
>>344550719
We didn't which is why we didn't get around to fighting illidan until later on, bc started out with fighting the demons
>>344550590
it was in BC already, returning the verdant sphere quest you get from Kael makes him shout "lol I'm still alive and working for the legion, fuck you all" in Shattrath. We only raided BT because Akama and Maiev were buttmad.
>>344550623
I dont think that artist understands how metal works.
I mean im not complaining but looking at booty shouldnt hurt my brain.
Would you stick your dick inside herMaw of Souls?
>>344551564
Hey, it's a re-skinned Kil'jaeden.
Alliance:
>Humans
>Gnomes
>Dwarves
>Worgen
Horde:
>Orcs
>Goblins
>Trolls
>Taurens
Illidiari:
>Blood elves
>Night elves
>Draenei
>Undead
Pandaren are true neutral
There I fixed this piece of shit
>>344550326
You talked first about invading Outland because Shattra was attacked. But the attack on shattra was much later in the timeline when we already had established bases in outland.
Invading outland was just something to push forward the story and force us to meet old character from Wc3 to later kill them to get loot.
>>344550623
>made to be this strong female character
>becomes blackhands cumdump
She isn't even comming to our timeline becuase reasons.
>>344551698
Of course it is, when was the last time you saw an original model?
>>344551849
WotLK. The last good expansion.
>>344551769
>She isn't even comming to our timeline
Thank fuck.
>>344537852
I love OP Llanowar Elves
>>344551564
Let's be completely serious: the WoW team is bigger than ever, yet pushes out new content at a slower rate than ever. What happened? No memes.
Gonna dick around with a free month's time troll warlock, druid, or priest?
I'd fuck the shit out of Yrel's mouth.
>>344552119
They claim that it's because they had to retrain all the new members. The actual reason is probably that they realized they could still keep up more subs than any other mmo out there even if they don't release content for over a year so they stopped trying
>>344551769
>You talked first about invading Outland because Shattra was attacked. But the attack on shattra was much later in the timeline when we already had established bases in outland.
No I said the reason that we killed illidan was that he was attacking the naru and shattrath, the original reason we went into outland was because kazzak reopened the portal.
Warlords was basically 2 things, It's the 'Only just a Dream' scenario where the entire thing is self-contained and pointless. It's basically a Movie or TV show that decided to do the story line where they change something and we got to change it back/stop it. It's basically Shrek 4.
It's also the 'Remember this stuff from Burning Crusade?!' whole throwing in other stuff. You can't go questing without the throwback.
>Last boss of Sethikk Halls is a Rare Mob in Spires. Almost all Arrakoans besides Reshad and Ishkar seem to have names from BC, I could be wrong
>Jubei'thos of the Hellfire High Council is the Blademaster lord from 'Blackrock and Roll'
>Gurtogg Bloodboil is same dude from Black Temple
>Socrathar was a Quest boss in Netherstorm
>Torn-heart returns to help you stop Gul'dan shattering the Elements.
There are tons more, But I am getting lazy trying to think of the other ones.
>>344552927
>It's basically a Movie or TV show that decided to do the story line where they change something and we got to change it back/stop it. It's basically Shrek 4.
Besides bringing back Gul'Dan.
>>344552927
>Warlords was basically 2 things, It's the 'Only just a Dream' scenario where the entire thing is self-contained and pointless. It's basically a Movie or TV show that decided to do the story line where they change something and we got to change it back/stop it. It's basically Shrek 4.
Except for the part where they brought AU Gul'dan to our world because MU Azeroth is running out of known "big baddies".
>>344549990
>the FIRST orc warlock
I'd wash the WoD cock out of your mouth bro I was talking about the real Gul'dan not AU retroactivly made into a badass Gul'dan. The first warlock was Ner'zhul
>one of, if not the most powerful warlock ever bar maybe Kil'jaeden
Maybe or maybe not, our Gul'dan did very little to suggest he was immensly powerful
>created the Horde, ogre magi, Death Knights and (albeit second hand) Demon Hunters
He didn't create the horde, ogre magi were retconned not to be him (but I'll give it to you because fuck retcons). he made first gen DKs yeah so Doomhammer wouldn't fist him and I'm not sure how demon hunters relate.
Like I said Blizz is trying to retcon him to make him more important then he was.
The void lords are just supermassive ultrapowerful voidwalkers?
>>344536395
>downloading future update
>18gb
I'm quitting just before Legion anyways. Still, 18gb for ONE region? WHAT THE FUCK
>>344537139
they definitely had to for loading purposes in the beginning
>>344536395
How about, instead of shit posting, people just post LiLi porn instead? How is that for a compromise?
>>344553176
>Everyone's fucking dead. Who's the new big bad?
>Metzen: Just...I dunno. *snorts coke*. Pick something that looks cool and make Lord versions.
>Ok. Fine.
>Metzen: And make the old Villains good now.
>Fuck you so much.
>[Coke Snorting Intensifies]
>>344542302
He is a big deal, at least initially. Hes is the main quest giver and npc buddy for most of the introductory quest line.
>>344548556
Im leveling now. 95th level. Im having fun when quests with Khadgar come up. I hate Yrel's fucking voice though. So bad. When I saw that porno of her before I started playing, I thought they found a really shit VA for the voice. Turns out its her character voice. Disappointing
>>344553176
Voidlords are basically the rulers of the void, voidwalkers and callers are creatures from the void meaning there are probably other things that come from the void.
>>344538631
>could've got Broxigar's axe or Ashkandi for Arms
>could've got Fray Island 2.0 off in the broken isles for our hall.
>could've got people besides a bunch of literally who Vrykul and Hodir.
>If only Blizzard wasn't so lazy.
>>344546151
Going to need more than 10% to keep up with her. Undead don't get tired.
>>344550623
There isn't remotely enough Yrel porn though.
>>344550131
Who's more powerful than Gul'dan?
>>344553624
Fuck Broxigar
>>344553072
>>344553116
Does it justify a whole expansion? Why are there no Further repercussions? It will never affect our world then the people that died in it. We won't see Grom leaving to see Orgrimmar, Or Yrel exploring our world and reuniting with Velen. We won't see the Bronze Dragonflight arguing if it is right for communication and travel between the two worlds happen. Blizzard doesn't care to explain what will happen anytime after Warlords.
Gul'dan could have come back as Thralls son after demons fucked his wife, or possessed Illidans body with demonshit or something. Hell, You could have had Legion without even Gul'dan. The whole time mess is convoluted and will never be explored again now. We won't see anyone else mess with time and having us fix it again.
>>344553624
>Can't use Shalamyne for Fury since it is a blade that literally turns into two blades, but it belonged to Varian
>>344538631
Didn't the interview on thursday mention something about them initially having legendary dead warriors in vykrul heaven initially, but removed them later? Something about that not feeling right.
>>344554524
>could've hung out with Anduin fucking Lothar
>"just didn't feel right"
>>344553176
Basically, then the old gods are over them. The Void Gods are probably in between but do their own things.
>>344554524
They wanted 'neutral' grounds for class halls so that it makes sense for both factions to be there.
So naturally that means that they fuck Warriors up the ass like they do.
>>344554524
They did. Which is completely wrong because it would feel good if it's anything like Valhalla. We'd just have these great warriors from all over the lore, just beating the shit out of each other and coming back to keep killing each other for all eternity inbetween feasting like kings.
>>344554631
>Basically, then the old gods are over them
Other way around dude. Old gods are the minions of the Void Lords
>>344554524
Lorewise, It has only been until recently since Odyn freed himself from Helya's shroud. The army there were Vykrul that fell long ago. Plus, It was Vykrul only for a long time. Perhaps they should add a quest where you can bring piece to those stuck in the Shadowlands and bring them to the Halls of Valor.
>playing warcraft
make like an oversized gorilla and shove your own fists up your asses you fucking pathetic losers
>>344554684
>Doomhammer there
>Lothar there
>Everyone else stands around awkwardly while they just glare at each other from across the room.
>>344554458
We honestly don't know if there will be future repurcussions or not beyond it being the entire reason the current expac is even happening. I wouldn't expect much, but whatever. Thats the issue with things taking place in an alternate reality. Minimal impact on the one we spend most of our time in.
>>344554860
ty m8
>>344536395
Was dropping this game at WotLK the best decision I could have made?
Cata looked neat, mainly because I wanted to play as a Dwarf Shaman, but that was right when all of my friends left the game.
Has anything good happened since ICC that is worth mentioning? Also I don't know if its relevant but I mained a Tauren Warrior, Secondary was a Dwarf Pally, and 3rd was an Orc DK.
>>344554684
>They wanted 'neutral' grounds for class halls so that it makes sense for both factions to be there.
And yet the priest hall is entirely light/naruu based
>>344555148
>Has anything good happened since ICC that is worth mentioning?
Not really
What Weapon are you mogging over your Artifact guys? Are you getting something that looks average? Are you using one of the 'Famous' weapons that you have taken for yourself?
>Goblin Warlock is using [Inferno-Flame Staff] (Normal)
>Orc Warrior is using [Gorehowl] and [The Black Hand]
>Orc Shaman is gonna use [Twilights Hammer]
>>344555148
>was playing this game the worst decision you ever made
yes, yes it was.
>>344554760
Hmm ok. And we haven't really heard anything concrete about them directly either.
>>344554868
Lothar and Doomhammer could totally come to respect each other after a few fights and a couple decades up there.
Also, >implying warriors would just stand around and glare at each other.
>>344554458
Is Yrel staying in Draenor?
I thought she was going to come help with demons in Legion.
>>344554619
>Orc warrior gets killed in Azeroth
"At last.....I have died a glorious death...brought honor to my clan....it's time i return to the soil"
"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute wtf is this place. Why are there giant shiny humans. WHAT IS GOING ON"
"Hey Son"
"MOM!?! WHY ARE YOU HERE? WHY AM I HERE!?!"
"You see son, I fucked a human and gave birth to you. So you are like half-human and this is human-heaven"
