So I recently picked up bayonetta 1 to see what the fuss was all about and sweet baby jesus this is fun
It's not horribly original, you can clearly see many things ripped straight off other action games like, obviously, devil may cry but god damn the game is so marvelously full of FLOW
You swipe left and right like a circus monkey on crack pulling off combos for pretty much anything you press in any order and that shit gets me diamond hard. Is bayo 2 even half as good as this? If so, that's an insta-buy
>>344501626
Glad you liked it anon. Bayo 2 is twice as good in my opinion so hop on that when you get the chance.
Bayonetta pretty much improves upon everything from the first, both are really great games.
>>344501626
Go play MGR it's way better
>>344501626
How does the creator of both games rip himself off?
>>344501626
Worst thing about the game imo is the graphics, it's more grey and brown than Gears of War
Great other than that aspect
>>344501775
Damn right I will. I actually pirated this since nintendo just up and left mu country making games' prices skyrocket but I really oughta buy this game; platinum deserves that money for not only doing a full port with extra nods to nintendo IPs but also making a second game
>>344501940
I intend to, but only when I get a non-dying console since my toaster couldn't possibly handle raiden's sombrero
FLY ME TO THE MOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6E13xODyA
>>344502483
fry me to the moon
>>344501775
>>344501832
>2 is TWICE as good
>pretty much improves upon EVERYTHING
Not OP, but why does everyone think this? I know it cut out the QTE torture attacks, but what else?
It's not that I hated the game, I just feel that it has it's own flaws and that, if anything, is more or less equal to the original. For instance:
>length of the game
>easier than Bayo 1 (at least, normal mode was)
>cash-in movie sequel-tier plot
>shoehorned multiplayer
Long story short: I was wasn't "BLOWN AWAY" by the game, but I still enjoyed it. I just don't understand how people think it's "WAAAAAY BETTER" than the first.
Postan best costume
>realize you can toggle the visor within cutscenes
>fweep fweep fweep fweep fweep
>>344501626
It only gets better as you improve. You'll feel like a fucking acrobat once you learn to dodge offset and get a feel for all of Bayo's moves.
>>344501940
Bayo 1 is way up there in the holy trinity with DMC3 and NGB in terms of combination of initial casual fun, depth, longevity and insane level of polish.
MGR is a half baked mess where half of the system just don't work and other half contradict each other (instead of synergizing).
also VST8 has just ended:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZrLMHuY4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FndQ0_mCN-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQU6VHij4vQ
>>344501940
I love MGR but it's really shallow compared to Bayo
>>344503268
>length of the game
It didn't feel any shorter than the first
>easier
I don't think the combat was any easier, but the ranking system was definitely more generous
>plot
Not exactly the selling point of a Bayo game. Neither game's plot was especially good but at least 2's was more coherent
>shoehorned multiplayer
Dude what? The multiplayer was fun as shit. My only complaint is that there's no local mode.
I think Bayo2 was as a whole a far more polished game. The combat felt more fluid, the level design was better, the framerate was improved from the xbox version, the new weapons were fucking amazing, the environments looked nicer, It got rid of the insta-death QTEs, and the mini-games were thankfully shorter. It certainly does have it's own flaws but I think it's a flat-out better game than the first all things considered.
>>344504160
The only thing I missed from Bayo 1 was that damn samurai sword
>>344503729
>ngb
Speaking of which, is razor's edge on the wii u any good?
>>344504593
Can't you get Shuraba or whatever it was called after you beat the game once?
>>344504593
Rakshasa was a damn good substitute though. It played exactly the same only faster somehow.
>>344504938
Can you? I don't remember
>>344504593
>>344504938
>>344505038
You can unlock it by buying the Super Mirror in Bayo2
Better bosses, Jeanne or Vergil?
>>344505403
Masked Lumen
>>344502027
To be fair, Bayonetta resembles DMC3 a lot more than DMC1.
>>344501626
>constantly praise bayo 1 as one of the best action games of all time
>still haven't played 2 because I don't want to buy a dead console
I'll be able to play it on the NX right? Nintendo is always pretty good about making their systems backwards compatible with the previous console's games
>>344505537
What, no it doesn't. Bayonetta shares nothing really with any DMC game mechanic wise. Unless you want to show me where DMC has Dodge Offsets, punch and kick combos, Wicked Weaves-esque moves, and a dedicated dodge button.
>>344503268
I agree. I bitched a lot about dying to instadeath QTEs but I rather missed them in Bayo 2 for whatever reason. Speaking of QTEs they have a cap on them in Bayo 2 that isn't there in Bayo 1. You don't get to mash over the circle limits to get a giant pulsating number, you mash until the circle is full then stop.
I hated most references because they really felt shoehorned in and not subtle at all.
It just wasn't as stylish either. The infernal demons, the dialogue, anything. There is no Jeanne 4 boss, which is quite possibly my favorite boss in any video game. It hardly gets to Bayo 1 levels of crazyness.
I know that's extremely subjective, but it's my opinion.
>>344505753
Nigger don't act stupid, as soon as Bayonetta came out people were making comparisons to DMC. And in a general sense, it is similar. You're getting too specific.
>>344503268
>cash-in movie sequel-tier plot
>shoehorned multiplayer
How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post shit like this?
>>344505403
Vergil, definitely. Jeanne's fights kinda sucked desu. Masked Lumen was sick as fuck though.
>>344505510
>tfw can only play Lumen Sage in multiplayer
The angelic aesthetics in Bayonetta are top tier.
>>344505510
lol, no.
>>344505941
the actual only thing that they have in common is that they're both action games where you fight enemy hoards. Bayo and DMC both play completely differently and the control schemes are miles apart
>>344504593
I missed the skates, though Chainsaw Skates were also good.
Would have been nice to have a new shotgun design too, even if I didn't end up using it, cause shotguns are always cool.
How do I get good at Bayo?
>>344506879
Dodge offset.
>>344505787
I agree with this anon for the most part. There weren't any really hype boss fights, and fights that could have been awesome, like the Prophet fight or the Final Boss, were made into Flying boss fights, which are quite literally the worst part of Bayo 2.
There are a few great fights, like the first Lumen Sage, Alraune, and Loptr, but it's overall a lot weaker in the boss department.
However, in nearly every other category, from level design, to enemies, to combos, it's fucking top notch. It makes the laziness of the boss fights that much more annoying.
>>344507228
I didn't even really like Loptr because it was pretty much
>1. Get WT because literally any move enables WT
>2. Maybe get a small combo off if you're lucky
>3. Get WT
>4. Maybe get a small combo off if you're lucky
Repeated over and over.
>>344506879
and this
![VST8 Traditional - Urser [YT-f43][bQU6VHij4vQ] dur.webm](https://i.imgur.com/bBhIgZN.jpg "VST8 Traditional - Urser [YT-f43][bQU6VHij4vQ] dur.webm")
>>344506862
>Would have been nice to have a new shotgun design
Chernabog is literally a shotgun with it's unique moveset
>>344504646
it's still razor ow the edge which is fundamentally bad
you can get it for a song on 360/ps3 and i *think* framerate is better on these version
unless you absolutely HAVE to experience controlling Kasumi's jiggle boobies with gyro
>>344506121
Let's pit it this way:
>original didn't have that great of a plot, but was still enjoyable
>sequel's plot seemed very lazy compared to the original and wasn't anything to write home about
Better? Also, you know very well that the game probably could've been WAY better if they didn't have to make a multiplayer mode no one wanted.
Is she right?
>>344509394
I'd trust her opinion more than anyone else's because she pure plated both games.
>>344509394
yes, but i hate that spampic is used as weapon in shitty console wars
>>344509536
She never pure plat Rodin in the second game.
>>344503318
God, those tits!
They managed to make it sexy, god damn!
>>344503268
I loved the game, but dead serious when I fought the final boss of Bayo 2 I didn't even know he was the final boss
I thought there was alot more to the game when there actually wasn't, and I felt cheated
>>344501626
Bayo 2 is a flat out improvement in terms of gameplay. Its everything you love, but better. Although the final boss isn't as marvelous, and it's shorter compared to the first, it's worth the money if you enjoyed the first.
>>344509986
>Bayo 2 is a flat out improvement in terms of gameplay
Why does everyone say this? It's completely wrong unless you're playing a retard surface casual level.
>>344509394
>>344506647
Not him but:
>Stop time
>fight your rival with your same skills many thimes
>crow transformation do vergil's spiral swords
>air combos
>talking shit to the bosses
>enemy spawn is almost identical to dmc4
>angels are the bad guys like dmc4/3 (in 3 fallen angel and beowolf looks like angels)
>the way the character moves
>the way you do a parry by moving forward to the attcack
>bayo2 has a "demon form" were she uses magic
>you can use your rival
>there is a scene were your rival helps you
>at the credit scroll screen is a minigame to unlock something if you beat random enemies
>bayonetta can shoot at two enemies at the same thime just like gunslinger
>you enter a monster in bayo 2, just like dmc3
>mission select works the fucking same
>enemy step grants good combos
>you shoot a laser with the sword
C'mon, are you blind? Deaf?
>>344510843
Because none of that shit mattered to me when I played it. It's all about the minutia of the combat system in the context of being able to do whacky shit when you're on the offensive. Things like enemies blocking more really isn't a problem unless you're trying to make a combo video, in gameplay you just deal with it as a different flavor.
The real reason Bayonetta 2 is way better than Bayonetta 1 has less to do with combat and more to do with everything else. Bayo 2 cut out all of the bullshit Bayo 1 forced on you, vehicle sections, boring puzzle bits, asinine amounts of backtracking for secret verses, dumb bullshit cutscenes where enmies would hit you immediately upon exit, and so on. The level design was better and more of the game was the combat and set pieces I wanted.
It really doesn't matter to me that I can't fuck around with the enemies and point system as much in Bayo 2. Instead I care more about Love is Blue having a massively better moveset, more creative weapons, angel/demon arms being much better since you can still use your normal moveset, hugely expanded enemy variety, and all of the parts that make up the game, not the parts that make up the system.
Besides I bet every fucker just used the Kilgore glitch in Bayo 1 anyway.
>>344513109
This. It's so much more fun to play.
Yoshesque does make some good points about the mechanics and changes, but calling it an inferior game (on a pro level) is wrong, IMO. We just don't understand it yet. The changes don't make it bad, it's just a different system. that we haven't cracked yet.
