>Pick up a racing game
>There's no automatic shift option
WHY¿ Who the fuck enjoys playing manual shift? It's literally artificial difficulty.
>>344460375
I know this is bait, but manual transmission is a good casual filter.
>>344460375
Because 0 race cars out there are automatics? Not even fucking NASCAR cars.
>>344460375
what racing game doesnt have automatic?
>>344461059
All modern day exotics are automatic.
The computers in supercars will shift faster and more efficiently than is physically possible for any person.
>>344461059
>Not even fucking NASCAR cars.
Are you kidding? All they're doing is just coasting around in a circle avoiding crashing into eachothers.
>>344461387
>All modern day exotics are automatic
Only in Clapistan. Buying a sports car in automatic is a complete waste.
>manchildren that cant drive manual
LMAO
>>344461387
They can be driven in flappy paddle mode (i.e. like F1 cars), and race car drivers trying to set records will drive them in that mode not in fully automatic.
>>344461387
>automatic
You mean semi-automatic aka flappy paddle
>>344461519
Which modern day supercar is designed and manufactured in the US?
>>344461476
He's talking about the transmissions the cars use. Try to pay attention retard.
>things that never happend.com
>>344461797
Calm down, kiddo. I'm sorry that I misunderstood.
>>344460375
People who enjoy racing obviously are the target audience for racing games.
What fucking racing game are you playing though? Seriously stuff like Forza and GT have auto options, hell even Assetto Corsa and rFactor 2 do too.
>>344461928
>TLD meme
Get out of /v/
>>344461476
They do road courses too
I wonder how people drive automatics without feeling the urge to crash the car and kill themselves out of boredom. It's a small thing moving a stick around and having another pedal, but it somehow makes driving much more entertaining. I genuinely fear the day manual transmissions stop existing.
>>344460375
Are you fucking kidding me?
Most games i see dont have manual, and force you to automatic.
>>344462914
Because I've spoken to a few Americans about this subject, they consider driving a chore, they have extremely long commutes to work daily through awful traffic.
Hence why automatics are more popular there.
>>344461740
Ford gt
>>344463124
Why wouldn't they use public transportation then? Buses, trains, trams etc. You could even play on your phone without risking everyone's life.
>not cvt
>>344463124
I am American though. I spend about 2 hours on my car on average every day(it's a one hour drive to college), most of that time in heavy traffic and I still would never ever consider getting an automatic because that shit is dull as fuck.
>>344463082
Not Op but pretty much any racing game will let you use Manual.
On a related note does anyone here use a proper wheel? I've recently got a G29 and it's really hard to adapt from a controller.
>>344463124
>people think it's a chore to move a level once or twice
No wonder you fags are so fat
>>344462914
perhaps because people drive to get places, not to be entertained.
>>344463413
because public transportation is fucking foul, and you have to mingle with foul people. also slow and doesn't go where you need.
>>344463413
Like healthcare, American 'public transportation' is a rather shitty joke.
>>344463558
>Be entertained
>Still get to places
Seems like a win win situation to me.
>>344463558
>perhaps because people drive to get places, not to be entertained.
I had to use my dads car (AT) for a week while mine was in the shop. 1 hour and a half commute to university everyday. It was the most boring driving experience ever. Truly.
Then again I have beautiful windy country roads where I live so I can imagine why Americans can't enjoy driving.
What are some racing games for PC where I can go really fast and have car customization?
>>344463558
>public transportation is foul
Only in countries run by jews, like the US.
I rode the bus every day of the week back and forth, 2 hours every trip to go to uni for 3 years because it was maybe a 10th of the price of renting in town.
I've never had one bad experience save for a car crash that wasn't even the bus's fault.
The only reason buses are seen as poor people's transportation is because the fucking kikes want everyone to buy a super car at 16. Fucking morons, all of you.
They don't even let us have automatic licenses here without getting our manual one first in Eastern Yurop.
>>344464608
Too bad it isn't like this in the US of A. I guess it would eliminate a great portion of all car accidents.
>>344464608
Similar in the UK, if you do your test with an autotragic you aren't allowed to drive manual until you do your test in one
Manual transmission is like a fedora for your car.
>>344465835
I heard that getting your license in the UK takes up to half a year.
>There are people in this thread who can't drive manual.
>There are people in this thread who pick AS when they play Initial D
Fucking Automatic scum.
>>344460375
More like
>Pick up a racing game
>There's no manual transmission option
What the fuck, Need for Speed?
>>344465962
Automatic transmission is like training wheels for your car.
>>344460375
>>344461387
>>344461519
>>344461717
i love driving stick, it makes it more fun to drive, and the execution of manually shifting is rewarding in itself.
automatics shouldnt even be a thing when it comes to racing honestly.
>>344465980
Depends how lucky you get
I've failed my test and been told why, only for the stuff the examiner said never happened
Or the time I was some guys last test before he retired, someone on a roundabout was indicated they were turning off, then didn't. The car moved fucking 1cm and he failed me for that, despite doing everything else fine
>>344466138
Any more than power steering, ABS or hydraulic brakes?
>>344463413
Because here public transportation is either nonexistent, or more accurately referred to as a rapid dindu delivery system and therefore shit.
>>344466403
Training wheels help you from falling to the sides until you get the hang of cycling.
Automatic transmission takes away the (small) difficulty of shifting while getting the hang of driving.
>Fuel economy
>Driver involvement
nice memes manualboys
>>344466664
Or it takes away entirely unnecessary mechanic.
>>344465985
>There are people in this thread who can't skin and butcher an animal for food
>There are people in this thread who can't carpenter a house
>There are people in this thread who can't weave cloth for clothes
>There are people in this thread who can't send mail via horse
>>344466664
Removing the training wheels improves the experience and use of a bike. Having to shift manually makes the car shittier.
>>344466354
>He can't drive manual so he shitposts all day to compensate for his inability to actually drive a car.
nice memes faggot.
>>344466835
>There are people in this thread who can't skin and butcher an animal for food
>There are people in this thread who can't carpenter a house
You should actually have some idea of how to do those things though
>>344466835
>I wanna have more control over how I drive my car
>CAN YOU EVEN BUILD A HOUSE YOU FAGGOT
Calm down man before you blow a tranny.
>>344466835
>not being able to skin and butcher an animal or having house building experience
If you don't want to skin and butcher your own food fine but everyone should have the bare minimum knowledge when it comes to carpentry. Have fun getting ripped off by shitty contractors for the rest of your life.
Name one advantage of manual transmissions that isn't:
>Boy i feel like Toretto/Takumi
>Old ass automatics
>Doing unnecesary stuff makes you not lazy!
>All these new worlders complaining about shifting a gear stick
no wonder you're so fat
>>344463470
I've got a G27. And, yeah. It takes some time getting used to. And I wouldn't say that you'll be a much better driver with it. It's just so much more fun and satisfying driving with a wheel/stick than with a regular controller.
>>344460375
Is that a ford fusion?
>>344467296
well in the U.S. at least
>no one will steal your car because no one can drive manual
>Easier and cheaper to maintain
>tend to cost less than their automatic counterparts.
>>344467296
More control of how the car acts in certain situations.
>>344467296
It's fun
Better fuel mileage
You have more control over the car you own
>>344466931
I bet you're one of them fags who took 3 months to install gentoo and then proceed to tell everyone that crippled piece of shit of an OS is the 2nd coming of jesus.
Do manualcuck still have to crank their engine to start it too?
>>344467576
>Better fuel mileage
Are you posting from 1985?
>>344467576
>Better fuel mileage
Only things that are actually true count. Also fun is a buzzword.
>>344467576
>Better fuel mileage
Not the way i shift
Autocucks can't wait for self driving cars.
>>344467815
>that strawman
and no I didn't install Gentoo. I'm way too lazy for that shit.
>>344468092
Literally what is better than being driven around like some kind of royalty?
holy shit did I click on /o/?
I bet you fuckers never even LS1 swapped your miata yet
>>344467954
>>344468007
>>344468027
It's true for certain cars still (2014 Chevrolet Cruze) but yeah for the most part doesn't really count anymore.
>playing a rally type game with AT
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>>344468092
so manualcucks pretending they're racers stop killing people? yes
>>344468092
This has been around for centuries.It's called public transportation.
I cannot wait for the day that self-driving cars become so inexpensive and efficient that it becomes illegal to manually drive a car. All the butthurt that this is going to cause, and all driverfags won't have any argument since the new legislation would save the lives of hundreds of thousands of people per year.
>b-b-but muh fun
you'll probably be able to drive on a recreational racing spot or something. But you ain't going to drive your car on your own on the streets.
Cannot. Wait.
>>344468230
Not getting killed.
>>344468326
>centuries
>>344468368
Not before I'm dead from old age, America might get it soon though, Americans drive worse than female Asians
>>344468409
I'd rather die than drive with fedora transmission.
>>344468529
It's coming way sooner than you'd think, mate. Unless you live in Zimbabwe or something
Post your shitty cars /v/
>implying video games
>>344468368
>not thinking that personal vehicles will be banned due to unneccesary emissions
In the future public transportation will dominate
>>344468529
>Americans drive worse than female Asians
>ranked 3rd best drivers in the world
>don't need to have cameras mounted on the dashboard to monitor shit driving habits
>>344468637
>tfw found a manual 9-5 Aero
>>344467506
>no one will steal your car because no one can drive manual
man i'm sure people into car jacking know both auto and manual
>>344468717
Nigga, tesla already sells affordable electric cars. And it's only going to get cheeper and cheeper.
How would manual make a long commute "more fun", you would barely be shifting at all on the highway
>>344468637
>Nigger rims
>>344468887
autism
>>344468873
Where is the metals for all those batteries going to come from? Hydrogen is the real future once we can figure it out
Electric cars are pretty boring too. I was watching a video of someone drifting a Tesla and it was so fucking sterile without the engine noises
>>344468887
People who drive manual are just so damn proud of how they mastered the menial task of shifting gears.
It's sort of the sunk cost fallacy. They spent all that time learning it and now they feel they can't upgrade to manual because their training would be lost.
>>344468873
It's still an unneccesary load on the environment which can't go on if we still would like to live on this planet.
>>344461740
Hellcat
>>344468873
That's not how you spell cheap.
>>344469069
that's fine for me, i hate noise, the only sound should be the tires against the road.
>>344469108
>It's sort of the sunk cost fallacy. They spent all that time learning it and now they feel they can't upgrade to manual because their training would be lost.
>all that time
It literally takes fuck all time. The first time I drove a car was a manual as I don't live in the US. It's fucking simple and any one could do it
The real fun comes when you get on the track and can get hektik, which automatics can't do
>>344469108
>"All that time learning it"
U wot m8
>>344461740
The new stingrays are sexy as fugg
>>344464087need for speed 2015
>>344468637
It may be shit but I love it
>>344469275
A lot of performance cars are quiet as fuck, until you step on the gas and go for it. Driving around the city you can be quiet as fuck
Still, if thats what you prefer that's fine, but when it comes to drifting comps it's going to be boring as fuck when petrol engines stop being a thing
>>344469428
People still jerk off over this car? Holy shit.
>>344469314
You're certainly right everyone can do it. That's why it's so strange your main strategy of defending manual is to attack people who supposedly are too dumb to learn it.
Guess what, we just don't care! Personally I can drive both but I wish I didn't have to learn manual. Total waste of time.
>>344469340
>i'll just pretend i was born knowing how to shift drive
It takes time to learn and it did for you too.
>>344469525
The Supra is ugly as fuck but I'd kill for a fucking RX-7
>>344469069
>Where is the metals for all those batteries going to come from?
You're right, they won't just stop personal vehicles from being made. In the future, we're going to put an halt to all manufacturing industries involving metals. Gotta save the planet!
>Electric cars are pretty boring too. I was watching a video of someone drifting a Tesla and it was so fucking sterile without the engine noises
Neck yourself. noise pollution is a cancer. It is annoying. It makes living near a highway hell. It directly affects the value of real estate. If you want to be a loud faggot, go on, but you will always be seen as an obnoxious asshole. I personally cannot wait to see one of the major source of noise pollution removed from city center. Shit will be relaxing.
Who almost a wizard and no driving license here?
Feels good to have decent public transportation and living at walking distance from everything.
>>344468368
I'm with you brother.
>>344464214
>The only reason buses are seen as poor people's transportation is because
Let me finish this sentence for you, dumbass.
The only people in America who can't afford even their own beatup junker car are broke ass ghetto ass poor mother fuckers who can't get a job because they're so braindead and devoid of any sense of awareness that they think shit like spamming their shitty hip-hop on their speaker phone on the bus makes them seem like a mysterious rebel.
And even those poor souls are far more tolerable than the mentally ill homeless vagrant who stinks to high hell that wandered onto the bus, that the driver can't be bothered to kick off for not paying fair because they don't get paid enough to get bitten or stabbed or urinated on.
>>344468637
Not literally that one, but the same model.
Swapped out the transmission for a manual over the winter.
>>344469069
>Hydrogen is the real future once we can figure it out
It's already been figured out, but it won't see any development as long as fossil fuels are still being used.
>>344461519
actually the US was one of the last countries where BMW offered manual options for M cars and german industry in general forced this push for flappy paddle bullshit in sports cars
>>344469146
Your computer is an unnecessary load on the environment. Just send it to the recycling center and never come back.
>>344469612
My father used to own one. Even had some plaque from the Mazda dealership because it was some limited model or something. He wound up having to sell it before I was old enough to drive. Both his bikes too. That car would have been a pussy magnet. Plus, it was stick... It's better off this way though considering how accident prone I was when I started driving. That poor thing would have been a mess.
>>344469634
You misunderstand, the batteries in those cars require rare earth metals like Lithium, there physically isn't enough for every one to have an electric car
>Neck yourself. noise pollution is a cancer
Don't buy a house that's next to a fucking race track then?
Part of what makes motorsports so good is the noise, some people do take the piss with car mods though
Reminds me it felt right driving in manual. Having control is good.
Too bad every car I've seen in agencies is automatic and the "manual shift" thing feels a bit inaccurate.
>>344468717
cars are getting more and more efficient to the point where they take the air out of your shitty city and fart it out cleaner
only norway is hinting at doing that but its its a frozen shithole with 0 culture so of course people accept it, it wouldn't pass anywhere else
>>344469841
You first
>sending off a perfectly functioning computer to recycling instead of giving it away for reuse
You have a thing or two to learn.
>>344470159
>norway
>0 culture
Funny.
>>344470159
>driving a gas guzzling SUV to buy barrels of coca cola is culture
t. America
How about you niggers go back to /o/?
>>344467506
>no one will steal your car because niggers can't drive manual
fixed
>>344470302
any culture you have is sterile as fuck
>>344470316
not even american and I drive a mazda6
>>344469362
they are, but I only see old ppl (at least grey hair) driving them. And if you get the auto transmission you're just a huge faggot.
>>344470316
Don't knock my country's traditions. People have been Cola Runnin' for 2 centuries and we're not going to stop because of some European's intolerance for culture.
>>344469362
>implying the GT-R isn't better
>>344460375
In NFSU, NFSU2, NFSMW and NFSC I perform better with manual than automatic. I seem to shift gears better than the computer, thus gain more speed.
>>344470649
Right there with you my obese american friend, fuck nordic inbreds and their lack of appreciation for anything outside their safe bubble
-t germany
>>344470032
And there isn't enough oil in the Earth to sustain motorcars indefinitely. Gotta start making sidemoves. If there isn't enough lithium for everyone in the western world, it can at the very least buy us some time during the transition period we just entered to find other alternatives.
Else, there's no other solution, might as well walk. If you're the guy who say "public transportation is the future", I'd like to point out how far away we are from this. Anyone who doesn't live in or near a major city would be fucked without a car. You cannot possibly create enough bus line that would be able to serve everyone from the most remote location in the country to any destination of his choice. Personal vehicles is a necessity for a shit ton of people, and will remain one for centuries.
>>344463470
it took a lot of practice for me to get used to the feeling of a wheel because of the slowdown of inputs.
after playing with some of the FFB settings and finding out my style, it got a lot better.
so, the best thing you can do is just keep using it.
>there are people driving cars who don't know the satisfying soft crunch of changing gears
>>344471031
>there are people
>>344466835
>There are people in this thread who don't live in the 1800's
>>344470841
there's enough oil that by the time it runs out there will already sustainable be a way to make it ourselves/wont matter anymore
and before you claim some unsourced, dumb shit about ''hurr durr only a couple more decades now xDD'', keep in mind people have been claiming the same shit for over a century and we still haven't ran out
>>344471031
>crunch
woman detected
>>344470880
I hope that isn't a 250
>>344471139
>there will already sustainable be a way
there will already be a sustainable way*
fugg
>>344471185
It isn't.
>>344467576
>Better fuel mileage
transmissions these days, in combination with adjustable valve timing systems is much better than a caveman yanking on a stick
As someone who has driven both a manual as his first car, then automatic, then manual again I will never understand the argument that shifting gears makes it more fun.
That shit becomes second nature so fast that it might as well not be there. Once that kicks into your sub-conscious then it stops affecting whatever "fun" you could possibly gain from it.
Driving should be comfortable as a top priority and an automatic makes it more comfortable. That is all I need to know.
>>344470824
We're talking about Coca Cola here Germany, not raping half of Europe.
>>344470880
Why haven't you unlocked that character yet, anon? Stop being a casual.
>>344468839
>White people are the best drivers
>mestizos and chinks are the worst
>>344468839
I'm from the Netherlands and live in LA for the last 5 years.
That 7.9 and 7.2 feels more like a 8.5 and a 3, lmao.
>>344471139
Surely being able to synthesize a virtually infinite volume of gas to burn in the atmosphere for the next centuries to come is the way to go. Cannot possibly hurt us in the long run.
>>344470841
BIOFUELS NIGGA
I hope we keep some noisy cars around, even if it only ends up being Formula D and shit like that
Electric/hydrogen/public transport probably is the future though
>>344461387
>DCT and ATM
>Autotragics
Nigga they have clutches, not torque converters
>>344468839
I'm surprised China and Korea aren't on there for 'worst' they are absolute shit drivers.
>>344468248
>LS1 swapped your miata yet
it's like you clicked on /o/, read some shitposting, and came back here using that as a basis for car culture
Let's be real for a second. Paddle shift is no better than automatic and that's featured on the highest end street cards.
>>344461476
Nascar uses auto clutches with manual gerar boxes, so they don't have to press the clutch pedal and just slam the next gear into place
>>344471267
>when you blip the throttle as you downshift
>>344470880
>tfw don't know how to drive a motorcycle orride a bike
>>344471267
Well it depends entirely on why you drive. I assume you're not into cars or driving which is why you think it's for nothing more than commuting.
I take the bus when I commute to work because I'll only drive my car on weekends and for fun.
>>344471432
Who the fuck can afford $80k+ for a mere car?
Manuals are still prevalent in the $30-40k bracket, I don't care for anything else.
>>344466919
>want to accelerate
>have to wait for the car to realize it needs to downshift
i wish i had a manual desu....
>>344471282
heh
>>344471337
>living in LA on purpose
I hope you got a good job out there. LA is nothing but fake people and douchebags. Not that those two things are mutually exclusive.
>>344471267
If you enjoy driving chances are you will also enjoy that glorious feel of having the power in the clutch or just plain ol' changing gears.
I agree automatics make a better commuter but only if you live in some crowded shithole, for anything else manual is nicer.
>>344469428
I think he wanted a good game, anon
>>344471542
Of course I will concede if we talk about hobby driving or racing.
I love changing into the5th gear.
>>344471370
thanks Bill Nye please tell us about SICEINCE now pls
>>344471492
>tfw everyone who taught you how to drive manual don't know how to have fun with it
I'd try and figure it out myself but I don't want to fuck it up in the process.
>>344471676
I feel you, I'm managing for now.
>>344471267
I worked 9 months as a driver driving a van and rest of my adult life my parents automatic and I definitely do not enjoy automatic. No matter how much it becomes second nature I still enjoy switching gears immensely, driving just becomes boring without it to me.
>>344471605
>want to accelerate
>need to disengage the engine, shift and re engage before i can even press the accelerator
Golly, I wonder which is faster. Not to mention a modern automatic shifts so fast you can barely notice any delay.
>>344467296
>Cheaper to maintain
>Faster than torque converter autos (the most common kind)
>More gears
Auto versions of cars usually have longer gear ration so they can have less gear changes, so 4 instead of 5 and so on, makes the car more into a GT car than a sporty one due to the longer gears
In drivers feel
Manual>DCT>AMT>Auto>CVT
In actual performance for going fast
DCT>Manual>AMT>Auto>CVT
>>344471886
this is why semi-automatic is literally the best thing in existence
Get a manual without a shit gear ratio and you won't have to change from 2nd/3rd gear during your commute at all, even after stopping.
>>344471605
>What is an automatic with a manual takeover
>>344468637
>Convertible.
fucking disgusting. I don't even care where you live. I live in California and I still think convertibles are unacceptable.
>>344472017
They kinda suck for street driving though
>>344468368
>Drivable cars become illegal
>drive them anyway
>cops will never catch you because they have shitty self driving cars that wont follow you though non marked roads and wont pass the speed limit
Yay
>>344466339
The thing i love most is the clutch
smooth acceleration friend
>>344472001
>Drivers feel
>>344468637
Here's my first car
>>344468637
I remember you from /o/ faggot
>>344472239
Takumi?
>Americans can't understand that some people don't think driving is a chore
There is literally nothing wrong with racing with automatic.
I bet next you faggots will say CVT is bad too.
>>344472239
And here's my 2nd car
>>344471605
If you floor the pedal in low rpm, the gear automatically kicks down.
Also modern automatics do tend to have an autostick feature.
It's like you've never heard of technology before.
>>344472001
This is the only acceptable order of preference.
>>344472326
>Not American
>People
Remember that if you drive for any reason other than transportation at or below the speed limit and within the boundaries of laws and regulations you shouldn't be allowed to have a license. The road is not a playground.
Based Google will make automatic cars so safe that it will be illegal to drive, let alone shift, manually within our lifetime.
DON'T STOP THE MUSIC TONIGHT
>>344472468
>America
>people
>61% white
>>344472221
Go away prius boy
>still waiting for that Tesla model 3
Who /electric/ here?
>automatic/manual bait thread
>replies
I guess it has been a long time since we've had one.
>>344472165
Cops won't have any reason to pull over a self driving car unless the registered owner has a warrant.
Self-driving cars are going to kill the traffic fines industry completely and while doing so also hamper other related infractions like drug trafficking because that's the main way they make those collars.
>>344472503
Counterpoint: F1. Worst girl BTFO once again.
>>344472343
But I don't drive cars anymore, So here's my daily bike
>>344472324
It's a Nissan. Common mistake. Look for a wider rear hatch, and a longer front bumper.
>>344472535
What are you? A tree hugger?
>>344467506
>>no one will steal your car because no one can drive manual
Why do you live in a shithole neighborhood where GTA is a thing in the first place?
>>344472535
When it gets either more supercharging stations or a 500 mile battery we can talk. Right now it's only good for driving to work and back.and that interior looks like shit
>>344472210
>Automatic fags will never know the joys of true vehicle control
>>344472535
Stupid ideas general?
Friggin PSP only lasts 25 minutes on full charge now.
>>344460375
>he hates having full control of the torque of his engine
Enjoy losing stupid shit.
>>344472692
Battery technology has improved a lot over 11 fucking years
>>344468637
I never worked a day in my life so I actually have no car. Since my father works the nightshift I use his most of the time.
>>344472578
Nigger I was talking about how a regular car would beat a cop on a self driving one because its not restricted to mapped roads and speed limits
Just engage 4low and go hiking while the cop car has no idea what to do, or crash since its stupid like that
>>344472090
Convertibles are nice on newer cars. Kinda shit on older cars because the roof can fall apart anytime. If you ever buy a convertible, make sure its brand new or if you get it used, make sure its a few years old because any older you will have to deal with the roof falling apart such as the back window falling out and shit.
>>344472647
and this is my project bike.
"project" as in it runs like fucking shit, so me and the mad scientist have to pull the head
Who /master race/ here?My apartment association is mad that I bring it into the elevator but they don't know it is me.
>>344466396
I got failed for stopping for a couple of seconds behind a parked car that had his brake lights on. Nothing remotely dangerous or serious. I did the rest of the test perfectly. That was the day I decided I will not give those DVLA kikes any more money.
>>344472747
Are psps 11 years old now?
>>344472657
>much lower maintenance
>smoother ride
>less money on gas
>faster than most cars
Aside for charging, it seems pretty good.
>>344471728
I enjoyed NFS 2015 to some extent, and I don't really get all the flak it's gotten
My major complaint was the exclusion of manual shifting but IIRC that was patched in
Sure, it's cheesy as fuck and probably has been forgotten by a lot of people, but every once in a while I boot it up and roam around>inb4 shilling
>this thread
>>344472936
The DVLA are fucking kikes. I ran out of fucking money and haven't taken my test again since. Only 1 of the 3 I did I actually fucked up (undertook someone, instant fail)
>>344472941
Yep
>>344472909
>non vespa scooter
Faggot
>>344472950
>doesn't get to pollute the enviroment
What are you? A pussy?
/o/tist here
This thread was started by Alphonse, our resident namefag shitposter. The smug animu grills have the exact fucking filenames as the one he uses time and again in shitposts threads, and this fucking thread is the sort of shit we get on /o/ all the time.
Just sage and hide.
>>344472950
>much lower maintenance
But when something does break won't the cost to repair it be much higher?
>>344472950
remember that the batteries have a lifespan too. The money you're saving on gas you're investing in new batteries.
And the batteries are far more damaging in the landfill, just saying..
>>344472965
It has some weird shit like being able to upgrade the camshaft on a fucking rotary engine
And the RX-7 I had on the trail had 7 fucking gears for some reason. Like they just add gears the more power the car gets
>>344472842
Convertibles are the worst and are only bought by the most vainglorious of people.
>I WANT YOU TO LOOK DIRECTLY AT MY BARE FUCKING HEAD WHILE I DRIVE. WITNESS ME.
>>344464874
Why would you want that? Manual cars are a theft prevention kit for most retards here.
>>344472535
>friend's cousin has a hybrid electric/diesel
>drives purely on electric until a certain mileage then switches over to diesel
>his regular work commute doesn't exceed that mileage
>charges the car in a garage for his apartment complex
>doesn't pay for the electricity usage in there
Exploitable as shit, he rarely pays for fuel now.
>>344472647
>Kawasaki
Is that a Kawasaki Ninja? Those bikes are badass.
>>344472950
>Heavy as fuck
>Expensive as fuck
>shitty interior even though its a 50k+ car
>bad on the twisties because its heavy as fuck, even though its centre of gravity is as low as it can
The Tesla Roadster and this are the only good electric cars
>>344473025
>all threads
FTFY
>Buy a classic car in Cuba
>Have it sent over here?
Does this seem like a good idea? Is it even possible because Cuba?
>>344461387
yeah, the car can shift faster than you, don't think anyone is disputing that, but shifting with a clutch and shifter is more rewarding and fun.
>>344466835
the right analogies would be
>There are people in this thread who can't cook food
>There are people in this thread who can't open a housedoor
>There are people in this thread who can't pick out clothes themselves
>There are people in this thread who can't put their mail into the mailbox
since the right analogy would include comparing two mundane ways to get to the same goal, one way with automatization of a part of the action and the other one doing it by manual might
I hope this makes sense, it's pretty hard to express yourself without having english as first language
>>344472838
>I never worked a day in my life
>living with your parents so not a proper NEET
How do you get away with not contributing to society then?
>>344472876
I'm also fixing up my dad's shitty bike. Suzuki is literally as bad as chinese bikes.
>>344472950
Electric hasn't advanced enough to make a good car yet, but you can buy a fine bike these days. Just don't expect to tour on it.
>>344473218
Sort of, it's a Kawasaki Concours. It's a gigantic ninja 1000 that's made for going cross country.
>>344473156
Except convertibles are fucking goat for cruising and enjoying a hoon because you can hear that engine roar and tires squeal in a way open windows could never hope to replicate.
Only a faggot projectionist thinks convertibles are purely for vainglory.
>>344473290
Bad idea, and yes, since Obama is now friends with cuba
>>344473360
community college
>>344467551
If you're not a fucking idiot who speeds on icy roads during snowfall, automatics can do the trick too. I had a shitty FWD Elantra that didn't have any issues with driving during harsh winters. Just have to use common sense.
I like the minimal feel to it.
>Bikefags infesting a car thread
Worse than autofags
>>344473595
Why do you need a TV in your car?
>>344473476
Why is it a bad idea? Too costly?
>>344473595
Me too, if the car cost less than 20k
but tesla wants 30k for it, so they can suck a dick
>>344473540
What do you study then?
>can't do college and a casual/part-time job
>>344473595
>big tablet mounted on dashboard
please
>>344473595
>minimal feel
>Huge obtuse tablet screen in the middle and nothing else
Even the model s got that shit right.
>>344473728
Rust nigga
>>344473032
I took the test 3 times. The first time I made shitload of mistakes and I deserved to be failed. One thing to note is that I was also told that I drove too fast on the slipway for a dual carriageway, even though I was driving with the exact speed my instructor told me a dozen times to drive with on the slipways.
2nd time I was failed for driving too slowly on a slipway to a dual carriageway (he told me he would normally let it go but some faggot in a hurry overtook me on the solid lines and apparently that was my fault), even though I was driving with the exact speed I was driving on the 1st test.
3rd time was the parked car incident.
>>344473025
DEJA VUcaptcha: select all images with cars in them
I can get one of these for about $5000. Should I? I was thinking about converting the back into a little room so I can travel the US and find a good job somewhere else.
>>344473940
>$5000
what the fuck man
Any games with 150+ cars on the track at the same time during a 24 hour period with dynamic time and dynamic weather?
Why did GT drop dynamic weather?
>>344473940
If you're going to be a fucking hippie maybe. That shit works great in high school though because you can bang your ladies wherever. When girls have their own room though it makes you look like a fucking bum.
>>344461717
>>344461730
>Delusional belief thay flappy paddles aren't automatics
>>344469108
The second car I bought was manual and I learned it in two days.
>>344473373
>mystery moistures flying in your face
>have to scream to talk to people in the car
>air conditioner is better
>less trunk space
>strangers constantly staring at you while you listen to questionable music
>red light tensions
>no boners allowed
>put on a show for the world when you inevitably get attacked by bees
>bird shit
>>344473373
Convertables lack the body rigidity that coupes have, unless it's a roadster that was built as toppless from the start, An example is the 370Z would have more body stiffeners added in an effort to cut down on chassis flex, addind weight, while still having more chassis flex than the coupe model. Whereas the mazda miata was built as a roadster from square one, and it is engineered to resist flexing due to it's semi-body-on-frame construction
REMINDER: Only buy a car if you know its value will appreciate.
>>344473850
You seem to underestimate Cubans. Almost everyone is Cuba is a mechanic. In Cuba there are so many classic cars there that people just use as regular cars and they keep them in relatively good shape.
But if you're talking about rust from the ocean while transporting then I agree.
I learned stick in a day. It's not some ancient chinese secret, it's two additional movements
>>344473940
If you want a shag van get a Shag Ram Van with a V8 so you can smoke Hondas
>>344473940
>$5000
In US dollars? Is the back furnished or something?
>>344473156
What if i just like the wind through my hair on a cool winters eve anon?
>>344473890
One my last test I failed for slowing down traffic, I was doing 30 (the speed limit) after just coming off a roundabout. Some cunt going 50 or something had to hit the brakes so he didn't hit me. Apparently that was my fault
Then later in the test I was doing a 3 point turn, saw a car coming so I stopped and waited for him to go past. He stopped and waved at me to carry on. I gave him a thumbs up and completed the manevuer. I was told I didn't see that car6000 years later and I get mad every time I think about it still
When you own an evo x, sti, and boosted integra all manual. Driving an autotragic is like playing mobas. Cancer
>>344474257
Buying a car for the sole purpose of appreciating value is like going out with a girl because you know her next boyfriend will be more handsome than you.
Pic related is worth $300,000
10 years ago, it was $80,000
Why didn't you beat the aircooled Porsche 911 market to the punch and make some money bucks?
>>344474281
you've never been to cuba eh? they have to have those cars thanks majorly to the embargo. Sure they look like they once did, but most are franken cars.
>>344474385
its ugly
>>344473595
>Tablet which has the car gauges such as the speedometer, tachometer, fuel(well voltage in a electric car), etc.)
I can easily see that fucking thimg malfunction and you end up not knowing how fast you are going, remaining fuel/electric charge, etc. Stick with regular analog gauges or some digital ones(for speedometer, and fuel).
>>344468368
>Cars controlled by a computer
>Not a tragedy the moment one of them has an error
Instead of 2 dead people you'll probably have dozens when there's a crash.
>>344474041
Forgot to put and less. Lowest I've seen was like 2000.
>>344474108
>Thinking I'll be doing any fucking
Look at where you are. Just take a good hard look.
>>344474371
You can't legally sell women. If I could, I would. But I don't have the legal team necessary to pull it off.
Pic related is now worth $140,000 and its a 90s era hatchback
>>344474385
Considering how jew VAG is, I wonder why they haven't released a new aircooled Porsche yet
>>344467815
>I have no response to being a faggot who can't drive stick so I'll talk about Gentoo
You're a special kind of autistic.
>>344474186
>worries about how other motorists perceive him
>would refuse to get a boner in his own convertible because muh image
>gets tense at red lights because other motorists' actions cause his autism to trigger
You are one precious little fuck aren't you.
>>344474512
>Getting a van for any purpose other than sexual activities, consensual or non
>It's an automatic vs. manual episode
>>344474451
There are other cars that have electric UI with all that also and that doesn't "easily malfunction".
>>344474652
>said the anon who likes the most pointless kind of car because he specifically wants all of those things
>>344460375
>tfw you werent born in clapistan and actually get to know how fun driving is
Mazdas are ugly, have no fucking options at all, and feel cheap as shit. Fuck Mazdas.
t. Mazda dealership employee
>>344474186
>strangers constantly staring at you while you listen to questionable music
>red light tensions
>no boners allowed
Fucking faggot, I used to drive a smart car cabrio while blasting this and gave no fucks about it on red lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSggtXbusdE
i cant think of a single racing game that doesnt have automatic transmissionthis thread is bait for /o/ crossposters, why does it have 280 replies?
>>344472841
yeah the cops would never have manual control cars or anything
>>344474431
If it runs it's fine. Also getting it from there and fixing it up could be a fun project.
Much better than paying god knows how much for a broken down heap from here.
>He doesn't drive a van
>>344474442
So. Its an asset.
30 years ago, pic related was being given away because sports cars with history were considered worthless
Now its worth €1,232,000
>>344474512
I know where we are, I'm trying to help you out mang. Those shits are gas guzzlers too, so you won't be doing much cross country traveling with the $50 bucks in your pocket.
>>344474928
The reddit is strong in this one.
>>344474967
But that would be illegal anon
>>344474902
You have shit taste
>>344474315
>He stopped and waved at me to carry on. I gave him a thumbs up and completed the manevuer.
Big no no on an actual exam. You cannot infringe on someone's right of way even if they visually signal you to go. It's completely retarded but your instructor should've told you so.
>>344475030
that is also ugly
>>344467374
Yes! I stumbled across this thread and I have a Fusion. Comfy car, but god damn shit breaks way too often.
>>344474186
>have to scream to talk to people in the car
Highway speeds yeah. If you are going 45 or leass MPH, not really.
>less trunk space
Not true, Some convertibles have a hige trunk space. I used to have a 2000 Crysler Sebring convertible(massive piece of shit that I got rid of and ended up getting a kickass 2005 Nissan Sentra. Don't buy anything from FUCKING Chrysler) and although had a bucket where the roof drops into, there was still a shitload of trunk space there.
>>344475085
cops have robots that can blow your ass up. Do you think they aren't outside the law?
>People calling manual transmission 'stick'
This triggers me almost as hard as clip/magazine
>>344474769
>is still projecting
Did a convertible driver pull up next to your car and dominate you at red lights or something? You seem really affected by the cars and their drivers to a deep personal degree. You ok, champ? Wanna talk about it?
>>344474839
> you weren't born in the country that was literally designed for driving
?
The only time I've had a comparable experience to driving across the country side of the US is when I was in Japan and Australia. Europe sucks for driving.
Driving from NorCal to Vegas for Evo is fun as fuck bro.
>>344475156
He didn't say that, he said I didn't see them. But I did, because I stopped when I saw them coming so they could go past
>>344475190
that's a good thing, it protects officers in the line of duty while physically removing criminal scum. Win-win. Also you're retarded if you didn't think it was coming
>>344475209
what's the difference then
>Mfw when saw a 1965 thunderbird for $16000
Is that normal?
>>344475220
did m2k jack off in the middle of the trip like it was no big deal?how fucked up is his cock
>>344474839
>Driving is suddenly fun because you now press in the clutch, switch gears, and release the clutch
I don't understand how that could make it fun. It's practically the same shit except theres a bit more work.
I bought a manual transmission because they're a lot cheaper to repair than an automatic. I couldn't give a shit about how fun it is.
>>344475190
and to use them they need a warrant
I will enjoy rip though the countryside in my 90s STI while the cop waits in line to get the approval of the judge to be able to go into manual mode, and hope he doesn't get stuck in light gravel
>a car thread on /v/ that isn't initial D
Holy shit
>>344475416
Did someone say Initial D?
Arma 3 is great for driving.
>>344475412
>they need a warrant to chase a vehicle at more than the speed limit.
since fucking when?
>>344475220
Road tripping is our thing. I don't know that other countries (aside from the Canucks) can even conceive something like road culture.
>>344474902
Come on man, the RX models and Miatas are literally Mazda's best models.
What happened to every videogame franchise having a cart racer?
>>344460375
Name one, I haven't seen a single racing game where automatic wasn't an option.
>>344475531
Does the sports hatchback still do over 200mph?
>>344474902
Fuck you the RX-7 FD is BEAUTIFUL
>>344471426
it's pretty accurate though
>>344460375
old cars are the coolest cars and thats why all car enthusiasts know how to drive manual
if you convert older cars they lose their value and its just not the same experience as driving the car in its factory condition
so i guess it really is a hipster thing to drive stick nowadays
it is fun to drive same make races with older cars, outracing the other racers with better clutching and shifting is way more fun than just turning the wheel and braking
>>344460375
>Who the fuck enjoys playing manual shift? It's literally artificial difficulty.
No have you played any sort of simulation racing game? Automatic tranmissions drive me nuts, its always in the wrong fucking gear and does not downshift when I want it to. Being able to hold a gear for the right RPM range around a corner for example is a big advantage.
>>344475048
I'll pick up drunk chicks at bars and throw them out in the morning.
And obviously I'll work and save up some money before I leave.
>>344475617
Please tell me you have some webm's of the 15-20 cars flying off the track at that corner shortly after the rain started
>>344474590
> Wind slightly brushing against one side of my face.
Unless you're advocating me sticking my head out the side of my window like a fuckwit the two aren't comparable.
>>344475532
That looks bad
>>344475535
>moving goal posts
the topic is that driving a non self drivable car is illegal, so for a cop to use the cop issued manual mode would need a warrant, since its against the law to just drive manually a car and not let the computer do it
Same idea with a cop getting inside your house or collecting your blood, if they don't have your consent, they need to get an approval of the judge to do so, or it would be against the law
>>344473940
>$5000 for this kind of van
I see those go for less than $2000 in my area in great condition with no problems. My cousin has one of those for his work(he is a carpenter and the van is great for his tools and such).
>>344475403
>I don't understand how that could make it fun. It's practically the same shit except theres a bit more work.
If you can't understand why added interactive steps (ie more control) in a process is more fun, on a videogames enthusiast's board in an era where videogame devs are removing player interactivity to pander to casuals who ultimately don't really give a shit about the medium, then I have nothing more to say to you.
>manual transmission
If I put my foot down lightly on the gas pedal the car moves slow, if I put my foot down hard on the gas pedal my car moves fast. This is the extent that a car needs to be controlled for Speed.
>>344475641
It is in KPH.
but yes it does.
>>344475008
> tfw slammed suzuki carry and mx5 life.
It's a good life.
>>344475867
I know it's in kph. I think it does like 350kph?
if you can't drive manual you can't drive
>>344475825
No that's a logic leap on your part. There's no indication that lawmakers would not excuse cops to have manual mode at all times. Particularly whenever a gun law is proposed they always exclude policing organizations. Remember the cop outcry when a proposed "assault rifle" ban in new york when cops weren't excluded?
>>344475220
>designed for driving
>hundreds of miles of straight lines
Yeah that sounds riveting.
>>344475695
>old cars are the coolest cars
if you want to kill yourself driving that is
>>344476175
Yeah, you're an idiot.
>>344470841
Just ensure that third worlders dont get cars or start eating meat and we should be fine
What racing game had the best trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWTpCGZwWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWrn9tritO8
https://vimeo.com/50981670
>>344464214
>2 hours trip every 4-5 days a week for 3 years
>just to save money
the only jew here it you
>>344475825
If we finally live in a time where all cars can be self driven you can bet the second you start your manual the ATF will be notified by satellite and will send a drone to bomb your ass for operating a manual death machine.
>Americans
>>344474481
It is undeniable that the numbers of accidents and fatalities on the roads will be lower by orders of magnitude the moment everyone is forced to use self-driving cars. Not to say that fuck ups won't happen, but certainly not hundreds of thousands per year.
>>344476109
True, but considering the cops would have manual mode at all times is also a logic leap on your part, since in the future self driving cars are so common, the knowledge to drive a car would become extra training
There is still the point that these cars would be mostly slow since they are semi automated patrol vehicles and only the very few highway patrol vehicles would be able to go anywhere near fast
a 300hp STI would destroy them
>b-but ludicrous mode
Wastes energy like crazy and its only good for straights, as soon you introduce more hard turns and uneven terrain (gravel, snow, dirt, all of the above together) the electric car will lose
>>344476175
>has never driven on a US highway
Faggot. I visited the US a few years ago, rented an RV, and drove from Seattle to Orlando and it was the most fucking glorious shit. Dat scenery. Dat having to stop to sleep for the night, 6 times.
>>344474481
This guy gets it
Self Driving AI is more prone to error than humans, people break traffic laws when they need to, whereas an AI never breaks the law and can't tell the difference between slamming into a crowd of 30 people in order to save the lives of the passangers.
>>344476292
There shouldn't be any safety nets or any rewards for your lack of skill
>>344460375
I'm not sure what shitty games you're playing that don't have manual.
What games let me add all the downforce I want?
>>344476632
More scarier is the fact that it potentially can and your own car could kill you in order to save more lifes.
If a group of pedestrians suddenly jump onto the road your car could slam you right into a concrete wall to avoid them killing you in the process.
>>344476530
How the hell would they know you have such vehicle?
>gps
most cars made before 2010 don't have them, and even entry models nowadays don't have it
Just drive an older model and they wont be able to track you down
>the noise
mufflers exist for that reason and not all combustion engine is a straight pipe V16 screaming at redline
>>344474481
>Instead of 2 dead people you'll probably have dozens when there's a crash.
I'm really curious as to what you're basing this on
What racing games increase suicides?
>>344476818
>More scarier
>>344476632
In that scenario, given the current programming of self driving AI, the car would purposely kill the passengers.
Half the accidents involving auto drive ave involved the car being unable to discern road and weather conditions due to gaps in the programming. Not only that but it takes too long to disengage auto drive.
What racing games let me race a Tesla Model S?
What racing games featured Pikes Peak?
>>344476818
this
If the AI deems your life less valuable, it will kill you to protect the more valuable asset
>>344476930
>>344477024
And that's why self driving cars will never take off, or at least not in our lifetime to the extent where everyone is forced to use them.
>>344476767
Gran Turismo. Pick one.
>>344476930
>the car would purposely kill the passengers
Fuck that.
My passengers and I > 30 people
>>344461740
Chrysler Charger
>>344476646
you're telling me that airbags and all that fancy crash resistant shit so you don't die are a meme?
>>344476617
that's another fair point, but remember the future we're talking about is 50 some years away. The number of cars that could outperform the new standard will most likely be weeded out, so only a few could potentially outrun the system, and the first time it happens it'll make national news, prompting new legislation. Also, because of the number of cars that could do it, it would be rather easy for the cops to track down who it was simply due to the number of registered vehicles who have that make and model.
>>344477076
Didn't a tesla kill some one recently because its AI fucked it up?
>>344477134
Not for an AI. I guess rich people will have to option to pay big bucks under the table for a version that always protects the passengers, but for regular folks it will be the greater good that matters for the program.
>>344468637
Probably going to get a new one soon.
>>344468637
>meme cars
>>344469428
Is the new Most Wanted good? I got it off for free on Origin.
>>344475617
Fog is the best driving condition for going fast.
>>344476632
Current plan for self driving cars is to have them all communicating with each other. Imagine if the driver ahead of you could tell you about a sudden road obstruction that will cause them to stop, and you could tell the driver next to you that you need space to avoid it -- all in milliseconds.
The people designing self driving cars are smarter than you're giving then credit for.
>>344476632
just give it a safety lane you niggers
>>344477226
Yep, but they get away with it scott free because "it's just a beta" . The car couldn't distinguish between a white lorry and the sky which resulted in it driving right under the wheels of the said lorry.
>>344477409
Clearly, white vehicles are unsafe.
>>344477226
>kill someone
No
>its AI
What AI? Its fucking cruise control with steering, Humanities Major. This feature existed before Tesla was even a thing. The fag was watching Harry Potter on his console instead of paying attention to the road.
>>344477379
That's not real fog. That's like an overcast day in england.
>>344476609
>>344477380
Except for the fact that self driving cars can't adapt to unpredictable and complex situations like humans can. If we see a truck with a “Makes Wide Turns” sign, we know how to adjust our driving accordingly. If we see children distracted by the ice cream truck across the street, we know to slow down, as they may dash toward it. Today’s computers aren’t nearly as skilled at interpreting complex situations like these. A glitch in the system is potentially way more fatal than with a human behind the wheel
There's tons and tons of research on self driving cars that disproves the claims you're making. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of banning hundreads of millions of regular automobiles out there and completely overhauling road infastructure since our current one was built for human drivers in mind.
>>344477286
>Toyota MR-2
Those cars are nice. I would've got one if it was FWD or AWD. I don't want to get a RWD car because the snow we get up in New England during the winter and RWD cars suck in the snow.
>AI
What AI?
The Tesla doesn't use any AI.
>>344475365
boomers
>>344477076
>>344477024
This isn't how real AI works you dumb fucks. This isn't an Isaac Asimov novel. It doesn't put a value on the shit around it, all it does is drive the fuckinf cat and try not to crash
>>344477758
dat 390 doe
>>344477576
So far no racing game has done it well.
Even worse, no game has done fog with dynamic time change and weather without shitting the bed frame wise.
>>344471337
>Living in LA
Should've lived more north or in Orange County.
>>344477685
Most RWD suck because there's no weight in the back. Literally all the weight is in the back on the MR-2. Also you need to git gud, I daily'd this last winter just fine.
>>344472876>gessenwhere did you get the sticker for their log?
>>344477576
That's because AC is shit and doesn't even have working lights. The engine only supports 1 light source so with proper fog you wouldn't be able to see the cars in front of you
>>344477775
You are arguing with English and Art majors.
Stop.
>>344477775
What does it do then when the only option it has is either to hit the brakes and plough through a group of pedestrians or hit a concrete wall?
>>344477775
>>344477929
>It doesn't put a value on the shit around it
Except that's the point dumbasses. It can't tell the difference because it can't adapt and will crash more often than human drivers do >>344476632
>>344477909
That crash was actually the little van things fault
>>344477964
it hits the pedestrians considering they are moving. Jesus christ.
>he thinks he's an anime race car driver because he uses manual
Autism.
>>344477964
hit the brakes
are you implying that breaking hard would kill the passengers? wear your seatbelt
you're also drastically underestimating the speed at which a computer can react
>>344478039
proofs?
>>344477851
That's objectively wrong. You can't handle RWD cars because you have shitty economy summer tires on when its a light snow
>>344477895
redbubble
There's also a Revocs sticker on the tail
>>344474385
>today is 300k
>my dad bought it for around 60k-80k 2 years ago
>>344478212
>summer tires in winter
Well no shit I didn't say anything about it, that's just common sense and asking for a crash
>>344469645
Do you live in a city or something?
I live in "the country", well Kentucky is country enough to count, and you aren't shit without a car. Places won't even hire you if you don't have reliable transportation (meaning have your own car or have someone else drive you).
Plus the driver's license is the only ID for a lot of people here.
>>344468637
C-can I play?
>>344478160
I'm implying that hitting the brakes won't stop the car in this scenario to slow down instantly and that the pedestrians will be run over unless the car hits a concrete wall.
>>344477997
i don't know where that guy is getting his information from, because there aren't any real self driving cars yet, unless you're counting simplistic autopilot shir like the tesla has, or super old shit that barely saw the light of day like whatever bmw was working on years and years ago
>>344477204
>implying yo need to register
Dead frames on the desert that are still sturdy enough are a dime dozen
Crate engines are and will still be a thing since they can be mated to serval other applications besides cars
You can also build your own frame with just some steel piping, you have no idea how easy is to make something decently fast nowadays with minimal budget
>>344478216
Your dad's base model Carrera from CarMax is not a 3.8 or a 911 GT3
Dual Clutch automatics are faster, more efficient, but more expensive, heavy.
Traditional manuals are slower, but simple, and easy/affordable to maintain/replace.
Pleb-spec automatics are expensive, stupid, slow, and not at all comparable to MUH RACECARS.
I don't care about setting the fastest lap time on my way to work or in the back canyons. Give me a manual. If I were a racer, yeah, I'd take a PDK or dual clutch, but only reluctantly.
>>344478415
the computer can see things ahead of it moving at such a speed that it would intercept its path and it will slow down accordingly. the people don't just pop up out of thin air, anon
>>344477929
Nigga, I'm a Mechatronic Engineering major and as ironic as it may sound, I would never fucking drive a self drivable car
I know how shitty AI and glorified cruise controls can be and how hard is to squish bugs AND how just not there we are
>>344478424
Yeah lets just pretend the all the collective data the people designing self driving cars donesn't exist.
i don't know where that guy is getting his information from, because there aren't any true scottsman yet.
>>344478538
Racing "automatics" still retain full gear control, which is the main point of contention in the manual v. automatic debate.
>>344478424
He's an idiot from Facebook
>>344478434
>Is your child building a pipe car in the garage?
>More on this deadly pastime tonight at 11
>>344478359
City indeed, not American as well so I have an actual government issued ID.
>>344478434
How will you refuel though? Gas is going to be a thing of the past.
>>344477851
True most of the weight is from the engine and the engine in a MR-2 is in the back(car is actually a mid engine, and not a completely rear engine), not to mention the car has 2 trunk spaces(one in front and another in the back behind the engine).
>>344478212
Even with winter tires, RWD cars aren't that good in winter unless your car is either a mid engine or rear engine due to the weight of the engine in the back.
>>344478685
what the fuck are you even talking about
>>344478626
They can pop out of the woods for example. Even a computer that potentially scans sides of the road as well won't see people obscured by trees. Or from behind a fence in a residential area.
>>344477840
>those alpine allstar gloves
want
>>344478626
See now you're drastically overestimating the speed at which a computer can react. No computer in the world is smart enough to completely avoid any potential accidents that may occur.
At some point a self driving car will get into an unavoidable crash. Slamming the breaks won't avoid all crashes. It will have to choose between slamming into a wall or crashing into a group of pedestrians.
>>344466403
fucking this
>REAL MEN DRIVE MANUAL
>14 different systems in place to do things that REAL men used to do by fucking hand
>look i started shifting a millisecond ahead of automatic
>now watch how slowly i physically move this stick shift in comparison to a machine that does it in 15 ms
just say its fun. ITS FUN. there dosnet NEED to be any other reason. i have a steering wheel and ONLY play my games with manual. because its FUN. im not gonna sit here and pretend i can physically move a stick shift faster then a fucking computer can. its just FUN.
>>344478684
Calm down, BLM, before I call the cops on you.
>>344478684
>I'd never drive a self driving car
that's the whole point
also the first self driving cars (i.e. not "glorified cruise control" but actually self driving) aren't hitting streets until 2019 and will only be a bunch of cabs in Singapore. we'll see how it does then
is the BRZ the P4P most exotic car per dollar?
>>344479029
right, crashes are inevitable.
just, vastly so much more when humans are behind it. which is where..abs...traction control...all that is is completely ignored because humans are just better
>Its an /o/ invades /v/ episode
also video games
>>344478160
You are at the high way at 90+ mph, some stupid kid jumps in front of you to catch his ball or something retarded
The car picks the kid in its sensors, what does it do now?
the car weights over 3000lbs, it cannot stop in time
does it just hit the brakes and hope for the best?
does it realize the kid is more important than the Neet fat fuck its transporting so it veers to any direction trying to avoid the kid?
>>344479307
>it's a /v/ uses /tv/ memes episode
Can you stop? It's time.
>>344471258
>not driving in overdrive for that maximum fuel economy
Can't do that shit with a babbymatic.
>>344479083
An automatic doesn't know what you're going to be doing in 2 seconds. You do.
Anyone who argues that people use manual to shift faster is an idiot. They use it to shift more appropriately to achieve faster travel times.
>>344478769
Crate engines are not all gas powered
people right now are converting sport cars to electric to get that sweet early and constant full torque
You don't need a 300HP V8 when you have a 300 HP DC motor
>>344479224
>most exotic
What does this even mean and why do poor people say it so much?
How does a product's place of origin make it worth more? An Alfasud is a piece of shit. Same with a 318i.
Automatics are the future. Shifting gears manually is so uncivilized.
>>344479365
Ate you implying that the NEET would know the kid is more valuable and elect to kill himself in place of the kid?
Aren't you forgetting that more physical space exists than "kid" and "wall"?
>>344479231
>just, vastly so much more when humans are behind it.
Except the compelete opposite is true. Right now a self-driving AI is more likely to get into an accident than humans for the reasons explained ITT
Unless you're saying humans get into more accidents than self driving cars statisticially. Which is true because 99.9% of autos out on the road right now are driven by humans.
Also there's a huge difference between driving assists and fully automated self driving cars that trying to equate the two is completely disingenous
>>344461059
>F1--the pinnacle of motorsport--uses semi-automatic transmissions
No traditional clutch, but paddle shifters.
Truth be told, NASCAR is one of the few racing disciplines to use a traditional manual transmission.
>>344479637
So is eating burgers and talking on the phone while driving, but Americans still manage to do it at the same time.
>self driving cars
>can't get drunk or sleep in them
>some fuck-stick got killed because his tesla did a 100 into a telephone pole while he glued his face to a portable dvd player playing harry potter
What's the fucking point. I'd totally get a full-size wagon, put the back seats down, and just get comfy with my 3DS and coffee while my car takes me to work if I could. Fuck this "you gotta keep your hands at the wheel and wait for the beep beep noise to take back control in case anything happens". Literally worse than having a cheap radar detector at that point. You can't completely trust the car, so you spend more energy monitoring the car than you would just driving yourself. Stupid.
>>344469612
Only like 9 grand plus fees to import an RX-7
>>344479720
Can confirm, and I do it all in a manual.
>>344479512
Yeah, and this turns them into understeering pieces of shit that's only good for drag racing. An 03 S197 is not a sportscar, with or without the DC motor.
>>344479612
>exotic
by this I mean, a car that makes you stop and look.
You start to see that in 40k cars like the Elise and 370z, but for 26,000 dollarydoos you can have a car that turns heads
>>344479424
I just wish I could be a kid and play Need for Speed Most Wanted again.Mia was so hotMy parents caught me fapping to hertwice
>>344479476
prove that thats useful. i mean, ignoring the fucking moutains of evidence that show abs, tcs and automatic shifters let the driver focus more on the road, ergo, what hes going to be doing in 2 seconds. Tcs dosent know what your going to be doing in 2 seconds. abs dosent know either.
annnnnd yet, safety increases. just, not with shifting. because you said so. okay.
>inb4 prove it isnt
you made the original claim, all i said is i prefer manual because its more fun. that its more important to know
what your going to be doing in 2 seconds then....knowing what your going to be doing in 2 seconds but with less distractions.
dont forget your LITERALLY talking to someone who said they, themselves, prefer manual
>>344472676
>"""""""true"""""""
I bet you use power steering, fag
>>344479751
a tesla isn't a self driving car. it's just a car with a sophisticated cruise control
>>344478835
Try reading shit for brains
>>344478721
Or just someone who is aware of the research being done on self driving cars by R&D labs and not an idiot who pretends the information doesn't exist because "there aren't any *real* self driving cars yet"
>driving automatic
No wonder Americans are fat lazy assholes.
>>344460375
On Super Monaco Grand Prix on the Megadrive I mastered using 7 gears and it felt rewarding to do so.
Every other driving or racing game I have played, I have not bothered with learning manual. Its just a waste of fucking time.
>>344476962
Assetto Corsa got a mod but the model s is a race terrible car.Every car in games and almost anything you can add with mods will feel better and get better laptime.
>>344479657
>Except the compelete opposite is true. Right now a self-driving AI is more likely to really now, i wasnt aware how dangerous abs and tcs was. i cant believe modern cars are just willy nilly adding in murderous artificial intelligence that just, decides the car is slipping and goes lol full accel!
>>344479946
>makes you stop and look
Just buy a cheap red convertible and put a fake badge on it.
Choose whatever brand your socioeconomic bracket is impressed by.
>>344480131
>Also there's a huge difference between driving assists and fully automated self driving cars that trying to equate the two is completely disingenous
Try reading the whole post before you shitpost.
>>344478769
>In the distant, dystopian future of electric cars, the roar of a combustion engine instills fear in the hearts of numales and heralds the achievement of speeds unsanctioned by the government
>>344480131
well, a line break would be good in there somewhere. round the middle
fucking autocorrect just steered me into a god damn wall
>>344479720
Do you also want to manually control fuel injection and radiation fan speed? Get real. You're acting pretentious over a useless skill.
>>344479956
>prove that it's useful
I just explained to you exactly why.
And the proof is that ALL RACING EVENTS use manual. If fully automatic led to faster lap times, then it would be the most common because faster lap times is the whole point of racing. Not "having fun" like the previous post had said.
>>344468279
Why would you own a chevroshit in the first place?
The only decent poor man's car they have is a dull toaster, everything else is a 2big4u nigger van or a shitbox
>>344480235
okay mad max. Enjoy spending $100 a gallon. You're also going to need to talk to jamall who cuts his shit with mad ethonol.
>>344480194
oh sorry, didnt clarify. the compeltely ai driven cars being debuted in California are already getting insurance benefits because they crunched the numbers. the insurance companies did, you know, the "jews" as failures would like to call them. if ANYONES gonna choose the option to save money, its them, amirite
>drive a van with fucked synchros
>downshifting is a right pain in the ass
>try the double clutching thing I read on the internet
>oh man that works
>tfw banging along absolutely butter smooth downshifts with textbook precision and no struggling whatsoever
Seriously, driving a really shitty car is a good learning experience and everyone should try it. Transforming a janky and uncooperative ride into a smooth experience is so incredibly satisfying
>>344464087
Wait for Forza Horizon 3, if installing Windows 10 isn't a major issue for you.
If not, get PCSX2 and download Tokyo Extreme Racer 3.
The Crew is pretty much a hit or miss, download the trial and see if it clicks for you.
NFS games (from Underground onwards) are prety good, Most Wanted has great police chases and Carbon also has touge races.
>>344479757
They are cheap as fuck in canada because nobody want to maintain doritos.
>>344480298
And you're acting defensive over a skill you do not posses while many do for whatever fucking reason.
>>344480037
>go off on some bitchy irrelevant tangent
>"lel you just don't know how to read"
You didn't really have a point other than "i disagree"
>>344480318
no, you gave me an opinion on why its useful. i retorted, with my own opinion
if knowing whats happening in 2 seconds is more important then a machine doing it
why does tcs and abs work so well?
and you replied with
>didnt you read
so allow me to retort:
didnt you read
>>344479815
>Implying they become worse
Here is an EV converted BMW M3 doing great at Pikes Peak hill climb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAnzPAsvHL0
>>344478380
Have fun dying.
>>344463529
Because shifting is so fun in an hour of stop and go traffic.
>>344480502
>doesn't know how to read
>"lel it's just a bitchy irrelavent tangent"
You didn't really have a point other than "i disagree"
>>344480443
Are you saying you weren't using the clutch to change gears before you read about it on the internet?
>>344480610
>in an hour of stop and go traffic
Sorry for not living in America and 2 hours from work.
No, not really.
>>344480609
Someone with a PT Cruiser is already dead inside.
>>344480493
I'm acting offensively, actually. I know that autos are superior and that they are the future.
>>344480563
This isn't a conversation about antilock brakes and traction control
If completely automatic transmissions led to faster times then it would be the standard in reaching
>>344480441
>they're safer because the insurance companies said so
That's nice and all, but it really doesn't really prove anything. Right now self driving AI is not advanced enough to avoid accidents that humans can due to their rigidness in obeying traffic laws.
>>344478380
Sell that thing as fast as you can
>>344480892
You got neither right. It's not the future because EV DC engines have no need for traditional gears, and it's not superior to manual, it would be used in competitions if it was.
>>344480698
If you can't argue your points without insults and hyperbole then you probably don't have a very good one
>overtaking high end automatic car on highway with shitty manual car
IT FEELS SO GOOD.
>>344480898
That's a lie and you know it. F1 bans anything that makes the cars go faster.
I find it funny that people think driving manual is some kind of cool thing that makes you an individual. Fucking like 97% of the world drives manual retards and have forever.
>>344461519
Automatics are faster tho, why would you want to go slow?
>>344480898
You're not a race car driver, anon. And your car isn't a race car.
>>344473595
I can't wait for the owners of these to complain about their huge tablet malfunctioning, effectively preventing them from using the car.
>>344481074
Automatics are banned from competition because they make cars go faster.
>Euros getting uppity because they forgo their free hand to move a knob around
Hey man, whatever helps you maintain that inferiority complex.
>>344481082
Ignoring the fact that's just a fallacy, I didn't use insults or hyperbole in my actual argument.
Thanks for confirming your lack of reading comprehension.
>>344480610
...it isnt?
>all these insecure europoors
racing cars literally have buttons to shift automatically and lights that tell you when to shift
it adds hardly anything to racing games except maybe in rally games where you want to know exactly what gear you are going into a turn with
>>344481095
>They try to speed up
>>344481268
Source: my ass xD
>>344481095
>mfw overtaking some shitty auto ford focus with my rusty jeep CJ3a
make that 50's 4banger scream, but it goes faster than the auto tragic
>>344481375
>he thinks anyone shifts when a light tells them to and not after listening to the sound of the engine after taking into account the terrain
>>344481095
>when your buddy drops a gear to overtake someone and a piston flies through the hood
>>344481397
>they can't
>>344481186
I never claimed to be, and it's not like I'm not advocating for everyone to switch to manual to shave 2 seconds off their commute to work.
>>344481569
>unable to revmatch
Kill your buddy for being useless.
>>344472090
my oppionion is better than yours the post
>go uphill
>mfw autoshitters can't go uphill
Autoshitters should just all hang themselves, seriously.
>>344481410
Putting a vacuum cleaner under your car is also banned in racing. It makes your car corner really fast.
>>344481397
>all that noise and the car is still at the same speed
if you want to have an autotragic its ok, just don't mate it to a shitty sub 2L engine with no torque like those 1.6 Ford engines or the cute but horrible 1.0 kia/Hyundai engines
its like ground beef and jagermiester and milk. before a huge media campaign was made to trick people into thinking it was the shit, they were literally bottom shelf products.
jager was literally a bottom shelf drink no one had ever heard of or cared about, then whatshisname buys it and raises it top shelf prices, give out a bunch of bottles around a few colleges and when the hype was max, lowered it to mid/almost bottom row prices and the hype combined with the affordability ment EVERYONE was trying it and "liking it". now jagerbombs are available everywhere, when before jager was almost about to dissapear off the face of the earth because it tasted like dicks. same with grey goose.
>>344468637
a 1989 Mercury tracer
not mine. But thats the car I drive got it dirt cheap as my first car. Fixed it up a bit with new radiator, water pump, and transmission cost me an additional 700 dollars. About to hit 300k on it. I love it. Get 40MPG fun as fuck to drive. I have it in stick. It's simple and mildy unique never seen another one on the road before.
>>344474519
Limited editions maybe, you can get one for as low as €14k in Europe.
>>344481397
No one tries to speed up when they're being passed you fucking autist.
>mom get the camera i overtook someone!! it was totally because of my superior shifting skills!!
>>344481680
Sure they can, they just need a 6 times more expensive AT than their bottom barrel ecoboxes come with.
>>344478685
What "collective data"?
You responded to "i don't know where he gets his information" with a statement that assumes they know where you get your information.
>>344481680
I think you have that backwards. Manuals are the ones with trouble on hills.
>>344481132
if that were true it wouldn't be the fastest race in the world
You're all a bunch of fags
>>344481839
>No one tries to speed up when they're being passed you fucking autist.
But most of them do, especially if they are overtaken by shitty cars
>>344482003
at least I'm not finish
>>344481839
people in flashy auto "sports" cars do
next time you overtake a minicooper S and the faggot tries but fails to overtake you, he has an auto
This is most likely to happen if you are trying to overtake him in a shitbox
>>344481936
Uhh, nope. Just put on 1st.
>>344471128
>there are people in this thread who were not born in the 1900s
>ftfy
>>344481936
Went uphill in 5th gear and got confused by the fact you still couldn't go up in 4th? so you got even more confused that you can shift multiple gears at once?
>>344481795
I didn't count the fact that you might be looking for a Delta Evo, those are €30k minimum.
>>344482179
>1st
>in any time or place besides when your current inertia is 0
You're not my nigga, die.
>>344481795
>spot a 8-valve Integrale while browsing classifieds
>condition is in that sweet spot where it's nice enough to be worth cherishing, but worn enough so you won't feel bad about driving the nuts off that thing
>9000 eurobucks
>tfw couldn't afford to buy it then and now the ad is long gone
Still salty
>>344482334
inertia is never 0
>>344481936
>hill climb
>engine RPM decreases because of load
>downshift to a lower gear
>still too much load
>downshift to second or first if the gearbox can
its not rocket science
oh, you might be talking about starting at a hill, only grannies have problems with that, and that's why they use their E brakes to hold the car in place, any one else with half a brain just uses the clutch to hold the car in place/starting to roll
>>344482145
>Dnf
I'm not suprised
>>344482473
>handbrake on
>engine off or idling
Inertia is 0
>>344482334
>his car doenst have a syncro on first
Damn, that's some early 90s euro shitbox you are driving
>>344482579
momentum is not inertia
>>344482334
Try driving in a city full of two-way roads the width of one car at 20 degree inclines.
>>344482534
>using the clutch to hold the car in place
nigga please, use the handbrake
>>344482628
2000 actually, but I have never needed to go into first gear besides when I start the car, my 2nd gear has a good ratio, so it can do the job itself unless I'm starting a steep hill.
>>344482787
Get out of /v/ Grandmother, the doc said you are too old to shitpost
>>344482893
I'm gonna guess a Ford focus or a VW Polo
>>344483071
Nissan Almera
>never had the chance to learn manual
Why live brosI like my Chevy Cruz though
>>344483137
Why not get a Clio? its the same car, but less hideous
>>344482975
https://youtu.be/_cbZlhduYJY?t=251
Learn something about how cars work retard
>>344483420
Because I hate the French.
>>344483458
Granmama, you don't held the car in place for ever in a hill like if you were waiting the lights go green
In that case just put the car in neutral and hold it in place with the brakes
when you want to go, while holding the brakes, shift the car into first and apply some gas as you release the brakes and the clutch
No granny E brake needed and the car wont slip or anything
Only Grandpas hold the car in place with the clutch while waiting for the green light
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