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Discuss, meme, etc.
Also, streaming ZTD playthrough
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just finishing up Q-END
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>people keep calling Akane an idiot for getting outrused
It's not her fault she didn't know about Delta's plans.
Her future selffrom the Payoff timelinewon't stopbroadcasting fragments of her wedding night with Junpei on all morphic frequencies.
>implying there's anything worse than a bratty snail
>>344448062
Fuck, it's uncanny seeing my bad drawing actually be reposted on /v/ regularly. I feel like I should redraw it or something.
>>344448001
...I wish I had an idea for a discussion but all I have are memes.
999>E17>VLR=ZTD>R11>N7
Junpei a fucking beta nu-male gook lmao. Sigma and Carlos need to DP that bitch Akane and make her a cock loving dirty slut.
>>344448479
She is still a bitch
Junpei literally goes nothing personel kid in the AB game. What a fucking faggot.
>>344448696
R11 > RD > 999 > VLR = E17 > I/O > N7 >>>>>> ZTD
>>344448001
Where can I find a Diana of my very own?
>>344448680
Discussion topic:
What's you're favorite tweest from ZTD
>>344448729
You are a cuck in denial.
why can't i find this game on myprivate trackers?
>>344448783
I only just started RD, and at least at the beginning it is literally E17 in a different setting. Is it really that good? If so, I'm pretty excited.
>>344448863
Delta was near Sean team all along.
>>344448863All the watches being on different times.The flowchart distorting like that was frigging great.
>>344448863
None of them were good.
>>344449003
>not using 3ds freeshop
You're missing out on the pinnacle of vidya piracy, anon.
so I just finished and I wanted to ask since I'm lazy and I'm a little late so I'm assuming it's been done alreadydoes it actually make sense that Q/Brother/Delta/Zero was with each team the entire time? I feel like there have to be some contradictions somewhere
>>344449125
>each team
see >>344449015
>>344449176
I literally just finished and posted, I am reading that now
>>344448001
Posted this in the previous thread just as it got locked:
I finished ZTD today.
Zero Escape might as well have ended with 999 in my opinion. Didn't need to go any further than that.
Well, VLR was alright. There were some good sequel hooks in there. But... where did they go? What's with this conclusion? I feel incomplete. This was supposed to be the Zero Escape finale? Okay then... how very unexciting.
Did I expect too much maybe? I dunno man.
>>344449015
For sure. Gotta be honest, I didn't think uchikoshi had it in him to still be able to surprise me like that.I loved the ending where you shoot him with a crossbow, and Mira and Eric just say what the fuck
>>344449005
Since Nakazawa was the one who came up with it, it plays out differently and has different pacing, but as a cohesive story it's very well put together
I disagree with some of it, but it's objectively very well made
Also word of warning turn down the sound effects volume real hard because some of it will break your fucking ears for no reason
>>344448851
Step 1: hang out around hospitals and strike up conversations with cute nurses sporting awkward bruises
Step 2: open your eyes to how awful and bizarre humans really are
Step 3:Become ZTD Junpei
Step 3 (alt):build pure robot waifu to soothe your soul
>>344449112
why would i play it on a small screen when there's a pc version?
>>344449019
Sardonic Akane is cuuuuute
>>344448479
Junpei doesn't know what he's in for
>>344448783
didn't R11 like not have an ending or something
>>344449608
It has an ending, just not one everyone is happy with and gets perpetuated as the shittiest shit to ever shit when it's really not
and it's some of the most basic shit in the world to look at the tips and find out precisely what was actually going to happen
>>344449275
999 was a great standalone game, and the other 2 are tacked on for sure, but I still think ZTD and VLR were great in their own right.
>>344448729
Did Sigma really do anything that great in ZTD? He made a lot of rash decisions and just stood there with a pained look as Eric shot several people
>>344448783
Root Double is mediocre as fuck though. The After route with Watase is the only part that I would actually consider to be good.
>>344449248
>>344449176
new question after reading that image:did Mira not kill Delta when she went apeshit with the scalpel?
>>344449313
Thanks man, just started it the other day and am not very far in yet at all.
I want to share this series with a family member who I think would really enjoy it.
But, is there any way to get VLR to work for them? Both my handhelds are JP region (which they cannot read)
I heard something about a PC port announced, but does that have an estimated release date?
>>344448775
depends on the timeline but yeah fuck him "Muh gritty detective life"
>>344448479
His motives were too complex.
>>344449558
Because the graphics aren't detailed enough anyway and the portability is nice.
why bother preventing 6 billion people from dying?
>>344449608
It was definitely unfinished, and there are indications a third route was planned. Still, the story is conclusive and pretty awesome if you don't mind digging through the fucking glossary to get the best parts of it.
ztd is the only game in the series i played
i loved it desu, even though a lot of references were completely lost on me
>>344448479
I hate akane because she only ran a nonary game to save her own life
she's a selfish bitch
Why didn't akane fuck Carlos?
>>344450147
>starting with the third game
play 999 and then vlr
>>344448873
or maybe akane and junpei have no chemistry at all?
they are supposedly in love with each other because reasons
>>344450002
But how are you gonna screenshot the dank memes
>>344450158
She sort of had to do it though, as she literally saw the events of the future through the bottom screen narration in 999 and had to fulfill it for the future to actually exist
>>344450158
>run Nonary Game to save her own skin and have revenge on four people
>bitches at Delta for running a Nonary Game to save his own skin and save the world (or have revenge on the terrorist, your pick)
>>344450260
She did, we just didn't get to observe that timeline.
>>344450260
Carlos and Junpei fucked instead
>>344450147
You ignored literally everybody's advice and didn't play 999 first? You should play it anyway because it's better, but now a big part of it (the existence of the morphogenetic field) will be spoiled.
>>344449802She doesn'tIf you follow the timeline down, it leads to Q's VR end, in which Zero (Delta) is still alive.
>>344450260
She will in the doujins.Patiently waiting for the Carlos&Junpei ones.
>>344450147
You are a stupid fuck.
>>344450462
Doesn't the homebrew channel have a screenshot tool, now? Good point, though
>>344450618
>Carlos&Junpei
good taste
>>344450462
miiverse
WHY DIDMIRAKILLJUNPEI
>>344448783
>I/O > N7 >>>>>> ZTD
I/O was a fucking mess and never7 shouldn't be on that list
>RD that high
how can your taste be so shit
>>344449275
>Did I expect too much maybe?
Yeah, but it's not your fault. VLR set up too much stuff that ZTD was obligated to follow up on, and it didn't even get to all of it. 999 and VLR worked great because they were mostly self-contained, so it didn't help that ZTD had 5 familiar returning characters, the entire basis for why these characters are there, and about 10 dangling plot threads that we assumed would be tied up. Having the mysteries not be mysteries is no fun.
>>344448001
Who's the red red haired cutie?
>>344450468
she should stop existing then. only junpei and santa care
>>344450986
from left to right
q, phi, akane
so it's akane
>>344450796
She's a psychotic murderer?
>>344450537
but i only play pc games...
>>344450875
You just summed up why I don't like ZTD as much as the other two. I liked how VLR felt like it's own game while simultaneously working as a good sequel to 999. ZTD doesn't really work too well standalone (reliant on knowing stuff from the other two) and also doesn't do all that well as a followup to VLR and a finale to the series.
>>344450796
just for shits and giggles
>"H-hang on, you're just gonna do what he says?"
>tells Diana to push the buttonemphatically
>doesn't even try to disarm Eric even when it would be easy to
>uses the transporter to get to some random point without planning at all when Carlos EASILY found the right point to transport to
>His greatest achievement is having babies and then starving to death
what the fuck was up with Sigma in this game?
>>344450875
>no clover
the real reason ztd is shit
>>344450796
Delta wanted to ruse Akane.
And boy did he.
Reminder that Akane wore no pants during ZTD.
So we're expected to accept they were pushing wheelchair Zero all along and calling the boy Sean all the time even thought it was never actually shown?
What a regress from VLR's lack of fear of showing obvious in hindsight foreshadowing that pretty much spoiled the whole game.
>>344451392
>what are emulators
>>344451687
>when it would be easy to
>implying
Bitch in heels >>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sigma
>>344451687
old sigma is senile
>>344451817
That's how dresses work m8
>>344451891
dude your arrows point into the wrong direction
>>344451687
He's____OLDanon.
>>344449885
If you have a hacked 3ds you can install an English region, right?
>>344451687
Old Sigma is forgot about being a cool dude like Young Sigma. He didn't see Kyle in the dcom facility and is also bent out of shape.
>>344448680
Am I imagining things or did Carlos get the lewdest lines and scene in the game despite being played as the purest man there?
>We may never get out of this shelter...you know what that means, right?
>Dick right over Akane's crotch which was unnecessary for the ploy
>Hmm...I suppose I couldn't control myself?
>Huh, weird. The more you protest, the more I get the urge to stick it in you (which wasn't even an act--he actually meant it)
Junpei compares nipples sizes to cameras, there was a vague Diana/Sigma scene (basically just portrayed by clasped hands), and Phi says she has D-cups.
I have to be missing something here.
>>344452241
>vague Diana/Sigma scene
There was nothing vague about that. Everyone knows what happened.Also don't forget their shower shenanigans in the Locker Room
>finally get to me Uchikoshi
>"hey faggot, fuck you, you made all this hype for this fuckin game?"
>Uchikoshi responds "well, look at this, thanks to your support the game was made, my motives are complex but the game itself have a goal, to get more zero escape fans"
>yeah but what about the other two fuckin games, there will be a clousure some day or some shit, questions answered maybe?
>"well, if the fanbase get more big, there will be a new game were all the shit i said "look for the new game" get explained, you are now in the timeline were a new game will be released"
>yeah but you said that there will be only 3...
>"like a said my motives are complex
>throws me a gun
>"now for your final desicion, you can decide if a new game is made (not killing me) or the saga ends with this abortion (kill me)
well /v/?
>>344452187
So was all the Akane cockteasing in 999 a calculated move?
>>344451687
He was a recurring character so he had to be nerfed and made useless to not alienate new players, that's why everything that matters is done by new characters
>>344452447
I could never kill such a qt
>>344449885
>not getting a vita
look at this faggot
>>344452447
Shoot the hack.
My watch edition finally got shipped
>mfw the whole week everyone saying its a 6/10 game
>>344452372
I know, anon. I'm just talking about explicitly graphic stuff and lines more than what actually happened.
...But it's good to know that Carlos isn't the dirtiest one there. I forgot about the shower room stuff.
>>344452701
I'd say it's a 7
>>344451462
Why is Delta not the Sphinx?
>ZTD doesn't really work too well standalone (reliant on knowing stuff from the other two) and also doesn't do all that well as a followup to VLR and a finale to the series.
You summed it up as well. It tried to be both and didn't spectacularly succeed at either. Should've tried to be its own game with neither Sigma, Phi, or Diana there at first, just for some player mind fuck.
>>344451771
Well of course there's that too, but why point out the obvious?
>>344452809
Man, those are some slutty boots.
>>344452701
A 5 at best
>>344452241
Plot twist, K was all along a voyeur watching all the lewd situations in Gab's body.
We might've not seen the lewdest timelines, but Kyle did.:^)
>>344452449Absolutely.
daily reminder that ZTD is best played as a standalone game without playing the prequels or knowing they exist
no i'm not just saying that because i did it but because it's true
Regardless of ZTD's quality, I'm glad we're getting fresh new memes
>>344451687
>Bring back four of people's favorite characters for the finale
>Make one a useless idiot
>Make one dead for like two thirds of the game
>Make one an obnoxious edgelord
>Make one generic waifu who occasionally says smart thing
These motives are truly too complex
>>344453283
They're duteragonists in this game, so
>>344452809
If anything Akane and Cuckpei are the one that could have been dropped, but we had to get the cringy sappy Romance ending to satisfy 999fags that somehow are still impressed by the childhood friend trope
>>344453143
Surprisingly I actually sort of agree
Some of it might not make sense but it certainly doesnt have the disappointment that comes with being a longtime fan and playing this
Post memo drawings.
Also disappointed that pic related didn't come true in any shape or form. It would've been cool as fuck.
Where the fuck is Light
>>344453163
The best part of ZTD is the fact that the memes write themselves. VLR and 999 had certain parts like that but literally everything in ZTD is dumb as hell
SLEEP WITH ME
>>344453283
>>Make one an obnoxious edgelord
Fuck you, asshole. Grumpy Jumpy was so satisfying.
>>344453963
And the madman did it!
>>344453963
"n-no"
>>344452794
I'd maybe give it a 7 if the ending was actually palatable.
The animation QUALITY and detached third-person cutscene perspectivelol Delta cameraskept me from getting immersed in the actual story.
Trying to split the difference between "series finale" and "casual entry to the series" means we got plot points from 999/VLR brought up without actually resolving them beyondDelta's "timeline shift none of that even matters now, haha motives".
Meanwhile the third of the game spent with the new characters Eric and Mira fails to give them anything in the way of a meaningful character arc. Seriously, their purpose in the story is to get in the fucking way and cause bloody chaos right up until "Oh we can jump along with you to the good end because ~quantum effects~, thanks friends"
I just wish it wasn't such a mess.
>>344453283
but Akane was always a generic waifu who occasionally says smart thing
>>344448001
Not to forget Yu-No: The Girl who Chants Love at the Edge of the World. That game's the first ever VN to include a built-in interactive Flowchart that you can travel around in. The game is for the old 1996 PC98 but there's the Windows 2011 port of it that includes bonuses.
If you have a good sense of humour, the sexual notions that balances out the serious plot won't be a problem. Also the protagonist has the same voice actor as Adult Link~
>>344453963
>damaged goods
No ty
Do Junpei and Akane end up together?
>>344454024
He was a tryhard
>Waaaaaah I have seen bad things last year! No one can understand it!
>>344454229
Gotta admit it was entertaining to shoot a crippled blind guy with a crossbow, though.
>>344453963
I don't have the balls. I'm a coward.
>>344453834
that's because the games are just collections of things the author finds interesting
that's why they are fun to play, but fall apart once you start actually thinking about them
>>344453764
He just has a bunch of fans and is doing poetry or music or something. That's where he is in his life.
>>344453034
I'd let Akane tease my cock.Young Akane's reaction here kills me, that feel when watching your future self be manipulewd
>>344454229
>casual entry to the series
This is the one. This is the mistake. That should never have been a thing. Never. This is the fucking finale to a story heavy game, of course you should be expected to play the previous ones before it.
And as such, we can tie everything together in the plot perfectly fine, because we know that you've already seen the plot of the previous titles. We can take it further and make it a truly epic finish.
But no.
Im oddly intrigued by this game.
But is it really as pretentious as it sounds.
It seems like a lot of fucking up and going back and replaying segments. Because you cant get outcomes wihtout people dying.
>>344454314
no, she left him for sigma
>>344454304
Yu-no is the perfect example of providing answers to mysteries without providing *interesting* answers to the mysteries. The elf bullshit was a copout and the incest shit was dumb. Plus the ending was dumb as hell and very unsatisfying.Sayless best waifu, but mio best h-scenes
>>344454314
why do people even care if two of the most generic characters in all japanese media end up together?
>>344454783
You're wrong. At most you have to replay a part 2 or 3 times and you can skip scenes you've seen relatively fast.
There's no fucking up if you know the answer to continue the story
>>344453501
Maybe if you had let your childhood crush ride shotgun inside your brain for a couple hours and then saved her life telepathically, things would have turned out differently for you.
>>344454334
>He was a tryhard
And you're acting like that wasn't great? He's basically distilled edgy teen who's rebelling against his mom Akane.
>>344454783
Have you not played the first 2? If not, do that first. The segment's are fine, but honestly moving away from a text presentation severely limited the ability to convey the plot with any form of subtlety whatsoever. Hence the memes. Fragments were a pretty good idea, though, and factor slightly into the story later.
Question: was the budget for this game smaller than VLR's or something?
Everybody keeps saying that the 3d is much cheaper to make, but it's almost half the length of VLR and seems as if several hours of development and plot were just cut out of the game.Yeah, I know VLR had a bunch of tedious parts. You don't have to tell me.
I'm glad we can all agree the cinematic style was a mistake.
Junpei slowly punching Carlos when we're supposed to believe he's beating the shit out of him is just funny.
>>344455143
Lol. A normal abusive relationship can only end in murder once, but not for junpei and akane.
>no casualties
Reminder that every one of them was aware that Mira is a serial killer and were prepared to let her go
Is Virtue's Last Reward an anagram for anything?
Zero Time Dilemma is an anagram for "Me? Im Zero, Im Delta"
>>344455323
>Question: was the budget for this game smaller than VLR's or something?
duh?
VLR was a much higher budget game.
>>344455526
Yeah that's by far the most retarded part of the game.
Can't believe they completely ignored all of that.
>>344455323
It had the budget of two tacos and a coke.
>>344455526
someone doesn't know about complexity
>>344455489
I thought Carlos implied that Junpei was weak af during that scene anyways
>>344455323
I don't see why they couldn't have just made a 999-like VN for an even lower budget. Plus, it could have conveyed so much more story. Like, you know, 999...
>>344455143
I onlt wanted for him and Sigma to interact and Junpei having his usual "baww I saw the worst happening this last year" routine just for Sigma to get mad and point out how stupid he was acting and to come back complaining when he has to witness and endure the end of the world and 6 billion deaths
>>344455526
>carlos didn't immediately shoot mira with the deagle at the end
>>344455698
Sure but it still looked pretty bad.
>>344455323
Sprites aren't the expensive thing here, especially not 999-tier terrible sprites.
The expensive 2D thing is drawing ALL the CGs and backgrounds.
>>344454627
>the only conversations in ZTD I honestly cared about were alien hand syndrome andthe cheap 999 fanservice
Uchi shouldn't be allow to make sequels, it just distracts from the delicious philosophy babble.
>>344454314
Who's that in the picture supposed to be?
>>344455489
If the animations were better, I feel like the cinematic style would've worked great for what ZTD was trying to do vs the traditional VN style of 999 and VLRInstead we got this shit
>>344455489
it's only a mistake if you cheap out
small studios make visual novels for a reason. they are cheap
>>344455526
Wouldn't be the first for Spike.
>Delta has a Quantum Computer
>uses it to see/calculate all possible timelines and what happens there
>Sigma has a Quantum Computer
>uses it to run a rabbit and some robot personalities on it
it must suck being outclassed by your own son at everything
>>344456062
it's probably a lot easier to know how to perfectly build computers when you can mindhacc
Junpei giving a ring to Akane and putting it on the wrong hand was cute and funny though.
>>344456051
At least Toko is innocent
>>344456000
I can't help but love the silly animations.
>>344455636
>>344455689
Got it. I just wish we had the budget to look at (especially how much was dedicated to each aspect of the game)...guess we'll never see it.
>>344456051
well the world is over in that game, this one has an established society full of beating hearts
>>344454883
I found the ending pretty fulfilling in how it made sense thatanother world existed, and even more so how Takuya and Yu-No basically became Adam and Eve at the origin point of time.
The only unanswered question I can find in the game is who the unknown caller in Takuya's house is and the old condition of the warehouse when it was still newly built.
>>344455738
ZTD being a trainwreck has the silver lining of making my nostalgic feelings for 999 that much stronger.
Though I wonder how they're going to pull off the two screen twist in the PC port.
>>344455965
Lapis Lazuli
>>344456357
which zero escape character is that?
>Sigma suddenly caring about his other selves
He's been murdering other people and even himself on multiple timelines and now he suddenly gives a fuck?
>>344456062
Isn't Delta taller too?
>>344456445
It's not a ZE character. I just needed a picture of a character with a happy face to show my pleasure of Akane and Junpei ending up together. Don't be fucking autistic.
>>344456626
He's slim while Sigma looks alpha as fuck.
>>344456654
Not only shit tastes in ZE characters but also in gems.
Go away
>>344456707
Well, he's 120 years old, and looks better than old Sigma.
>>344456829
Old Sigma looked like an unkept hobo. >>344451687
>>344456829
Old sigma got chopped up though, so he probably could't probably exercise ever again.
Carlos is the real protagonist of ZTD right?
>>344457121
yes
>>344456829
But he also has both eyes and arms. And hasn't spent last 45 years indoors. Damn, those years on almost complete isolation on R9 must have been torturous. Now I wish for a slice of life series of Sigmas life on R9.
One thing I'm wondering is, why should we give a fuck about the CQD 2 Timeline? If there's already an infinite amount of universes established where there are infinite possibilities, then we're just looking at one universe. Out of an infinite amount. Why should we care about this story knowing that it's just one of an unlimited amount of possibilities?
Where does ZTD stand on the VNDB website? Or is it even on the list? I'm curious to know since the first two games are, and if the third game counts as a VN for being the cinematic style.
Am I the only one who finds it extremely saddening that Diana got abused?
It's just so cruel to think that such a good-hearted person is treated in such a cruel way.
Why must it always be the good ones...
>>344448502
What made the snail choose the path he did?
>>344457225
Observer effect.
Q team was a mistake.
>>344457309
It felt kinda forced honestly
>>344456051
>Danganronpa 1&2 subverted the serial killer trope in a fun way
>ZTD played it in the most nonsensical and boring way by having an eight years old kid getting away with murder and killing every character with a chainsaw/backstabbing but only once by her actual modus operandi
>>344457005
When you reach your 40s you lose about 5% muscle mass every 10 years. Delta looks damn fine for someone his age.
Sigma can't even get a haircut.
>>344457197
Do you think Delta built the Quantum computer, created FtS, and developed R6 in a year? He must've worked harder than Sigma.
>>344457367
>ORE NO TENSHI DAAAAAA
>gesticulates wildly with shotgun
>I'LL JUST KILL YOU ALL
>I'll just kill Delta OH NO DELTA IS MAKING ME KILL YOU ALL
Truly a deep and well-written character.
>>344457005
Considering the damage he took during the explosion it is a miracle he is able to orchestrate the AB game. Let's count his injuries. Both arms, right eye. And some speculation: ruptured eardrums, organs ruptured from the blastwave causing internal bleeding, any damage to his brain from the blastwave and shrapnel that took his eye. So don't be harsh to Dr. Klim, he had a hard life.
>>344457367
>cute lil' robo kid
>shotgunmancer
>largest tits in the series
>complex mind hacks
Q team was alright.
>>344457309
That was baby-tier abuse
There is way worse stories of abuse in VNs
>>344457719
Yes, Delta had much more to do do during those years, but the conditions he was in were differend. He must have had other people to help him, he wasn't living in near isolation on the moon, and as Akane mentioned in the End or Beginning segment in VLR, Sigma must also study those fields before he can build the AIs, Kyle and the AB game.
>>344457590
>world goes to shit because some dumb blonde was born mentally ill
Sorry, that's as nonsensical as it gets.
>>344457873
Everyone in the VLR timeline had a hard life. Kyle, Grandpa Junpei, Akane (has to literally die for her plan to work), the list goes on. It's so tragic but that's why I love VLR in general. Nobody really gets a happy ending. It truly is the timeline God abandoned.
>>344458620
>world goes to shit because of a fucking Snail
>>344458743
The snail saved the world, dumbass.
>>344458743
What if the snail was being controlled by a parasite?
>Make Delta release Radical 6 to stop one wing of Free the Soul (the Myrmidons) from fucking up humanity even harder because they will get out of his hand with morphogenetic bullshit.
>Setting ZTD means that he can do his shit without being too suspicious and convoluting hard the history so it isn't trivial for the "opposing" espers to come and fuck it up.
>This way keeps the moral ambiguity of Delta, wraps up the Myrmidons crap, even gives Dio more sense.
>It isn't as fucking cringeworthy as "I can't find this single terrorist dude"
But Uchikoshi is a hack
>>344458743
COMPLEX MOTIVES
>>344457121
>Diana being the star of artbook, American and Japanese covers
>Carlos end up being the real protagonist
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?I'm kidding though. I prefer Carlos by leaps and bounds.
>>344457256
It was removed since it's not a VN, not kidding.
>>344459336
Well Carlos is the best husbando, Diana is the best waifu. I think all of the new characters introduced in ZTD are pretty good. Well COMPLEX MIND HACK man falls a bit short due lack of characterization. I wish there would have been an epilogue with the Klim family (did we ever get Diana's last name and age? She must be older than Sigma at that point (well atleast bodywise, oh naughty little Diana, going after boys younger than herself.) trying to talk things out.
>>344458743
>take a different path because of a snail
>randomly killed by child Mira
>bad chain of consequences
>it was the snail's fault
I just finished it
That was kinda abrupt
alsoMIND HACKING??? and is anyone going to explain why there just happened to be a mysterious old man there the entire time that nobody ever mentioned, or how it factored in to the puzzles or player deaths or anything?
>>344460089
>nobody ever mentioned
here we go again
>>344460089What if Delta mind hacc you to not register his presence in the game?
>>344449015
>camera pans all the place and doesnt show him, but lol now you can see the shadow!
>no one calls Sean by name until the reveal even if they all the other names like 20 times for fragment
but sure 100% twist, game of the century.
Uchi can do no wrong!
>>344458358
It's definitely the funniest team to have to wheel around a crippled old dude off-camera
>think back to [WHO WILL YOU KILL] decision
>wonder if there's a reason why the field is 11 characters
>try entering ICECREAMMAN andHEARTRIPPERto see if it does anything
>ERROR
Seriously, what was the point of making it 11 characters? Was it just supposed to be a misdirect or something? Fuck.
>>344450618
>doujins
about that, anon...
>>344460568
I'm assuming all the text fields during decisions like that were the same length, in that case it would be 11 characters because you can type "I dont know" for Who killed Mira
>>344460317
He mind hacks everyone around him to read their minds so he can move out of their line of sight whenever they're getting suspicious of him
>>344460568
>Seriously, what was the point of making it 11 characters?
Arbitrary. If it were 10 characters you would have asked why it was 10. If it were 12 characters you would have asked why it was 12.
One thing I would like to learn more is relationship between Dr. Klim and Akane and what happened during those years between ZTD and VLR. and of course,did they fuck?
>>344461072
akane died as she lived
without passing on her morphogenetics
>>344459861
Yup, Carlos is definitely the best husbando.
;)
Isn't Diana 22 or something? Her back story was a bit weird. Married and divorced, yet still managing to have become a nurse in the meanwhile. I don't think we ever got any new character's last name. They were irrelevant, I guess.
>>344460790
that one's 11 characters, but they're not all the same. in the"Who killed Junpei?"decision, you only get 10 to work with.
>>344460946
I suppose, but it's still disappointing all things considered. as >>344460790
mentioned, the Mira decision gets 11 for "I don't know", so you'd figure they'd all have a max limit to fit in all of their possible answers.>all the funposting about people killing BLICKWINKEL or SIX_BILLION meant nothing
>>344461072
I really hope so.
>>344461072
She saved herself for Junpei.
>>344451817
I want to lift up that skirt and slap dat booty
daily reminder that Sigma was supposed to be the playable character in D-Team but got changed because it would be unfair toward new players
So what did 1904 Phi go on to do?
I feel most people who followed the series are disappointed at ZTD due to how they handled Espers and the more fictional aspect of the game.
In 999 it was handled in a unique way, with the explaining of the Morphogenetic Field through myths, tales, and rumors that the various characters have heard of (Pic Related).
No one has the power to access the Morphogenetic Field on the fly, but people do have the inhibited trait to access it that can be awoken through certain means (that's why Ace did the Nonary Game and then Akane as well).
It is also implied that the Morphogenetic Field is the realm outside of the game, and you are the means that the info is transferred through, which adds more depth to the mechanics of Junpei talking to Akane and remembering what he did without just saying "That's how it is".
VLR also followed this to a degree, with Schrodinger's Cat and the Prisoner's Dilemma, but when they introduced the concept of "jumping" to separate timelines as a new power Espers have, that's when the games went more into the realm of "magic" than odd science fiction.
ZTD fully embraced the idea of "jumping" through the concept of SHIFTing, which was generally accepted by everyone in the game in the end to be just a power everyone has and can abuse through putting their lives in danger. Now everyone's a magical wizard that can send their consciousnesses to whatever timeline they desire.
I liked VLR a lot, don't get me wrong, it used the idea of jumping your consciousness sparsely, as if it was only something you should and could do once in a blue moon, but ZTD ran that into the ground.
>>344455738
Because westerners like cinematic games.
>>344461303
It's not a skirt, it's just a sweater.
Going to post this without reading anything because I was interested in ZTD on PC.
Just finished every ending in 999 and holy shit, you guys weren't kidding this series is already shaping up to be cool as shit, going on to VLR now, I saw the true ending already, however I guess seeing all the other endings is kind of the point of the game.
>>344461072
No. She was still devoted to Junpei.She still wore the ring.
>>344461171
As she is married and a nurse, she must be atleast in her mid twenties. Those things take time.
>>344460357
You don't need to be able to predict a plot twist in order for it to be good, though. The only thing that would have made it bad would have been if it was inconsistent, which it is not, as shown in that post of a screenshot of some posts.
>>344461681
Have fun playing the best game in the trilogy anon, I was spoiled on VLR's ending too but that didn't stop it from being fantastic all the way through.
>>344461343
Half into ZTD I stopped caring about the grand scheme and just wanted to know about the characters personal histories.
The game was also disappointing on that end.
>>344457121
Seem like Carlos could jump timelines way more than the others could.
>>344461343
I didn't really mind VLR's more "magical" approach by adding the ability to jump between timelines because the game took itself less seriously and was less gruesome than 999. It's also given limitations and used liberally like you said, which helped me suspend my disbelief.
>>344460568
>BLICKWINKEL
>>344461303
Right there with you, amigo
>>344461964
why is she inside a washing machine?
>>344461964
Ever Sevenclean
>>344461964
never gets old
>>344461714
except it is if the model of the character magically disappear when it should be visibile but then there's a shadow there
or when characters act different until the moment of the reveal and then they start adressing Sean by name like if they always did
etc.
but I guess fanboys can't see past this so the game is perfect
>>344462096
>that look she gives carlos after he tried to rape her
Nice
>>344462226
Washes off the totally-not-radical-6 tief blau
Playing this withmy gf. All she wants is for Q team to win. I justcondemned C team to death. What the fuck am I in for?
>who do you want to kill
>uchikoshi
>no flavor text
>>344448863
That there was only 1 ward. It was one of the few things i didnt get spoilered. Also when the flowchart changed
>>344462573
I tried uchikoshi in so many places man
I even tried identifying INUBUSHI and KEIKO as the killer but no
shit sucks
>>344457348
parasites.
>>344462573
>live action recording of uchikoshi appears
>tells you in broken english that you should be thankful the game came out at all and feel ashamed you tried to kill him even if it was a joke
>system bricks
>>344462376
Nigga, aint nobody's calling the game perfect. Probably most people here think its the worst in the series. It's just that intentionally omitting bits of dialogue (like the name) or camera angles are just as legit as ignoring reflections, never touching your own face, or not mentioning Superman jumping abilities
>Finished downloading game
>Right before i hop playing see a lone random screenie of ztd with the ending "Shoot Delta"
>Confused but pay no attention to it and hop on the game
>Play for several hours
>WHO WILL YOU KILL?
>Mira
>Fucking eric jumps
>Eric
>Fucking mira fucks him up
>Q
>Name please
>uh...
>Delta?
>???????????????????
>What
>What the fuck just happened
Well that was confusing.
>>344449019
what's the flowchart one?
>>344448729
He beats up Carlos, he is hardly a beta.
>>344462953
The flowchart expands after you learn about the shit with the watches.
In the grand scheme of things, nothing major, but it was good for that sense of "What the fuck is going on"
>>344462953
After you find out about the watches, the flowchart re-aligns to show the actual relative order of the fragments
>>344463018
you mean he makes Carlos laugh with his pathetic attempt
The game has great base but really lackluster execution, aside Carlos who was perfect.
>make Carlos,Sean and Sigma protagonists
>everyone together with randomized teams (few outcomes, but more interactions)
>Sean is Kyle in first generation Left clone body
>Kyle can snatch other people's bodies but kills host mind in the process
>Zero is more mischevious and simply has disdain for humanity
>Radical-6 gets released by Zero anyways on every timeline aside perfect one
>Zero can tap into morphogenetic field and see all timelines as he wants
>TWEEST is that whole game was from Maria's perspective who is trapped in the field during her coma and is trying to help Carlos,Kyle and Sigma
>Maria can also tap into field and see all kinda of infromation
>Maria was ? from VLR
>At the end Sigma gives up his body for Kyle so he can live normally in the perfect timeline
>>344462428
>That look she gives Carlo after he tried to rape her
Does anyone have that pic? >_>
>>344463230
it's too late for interesting outcomes like that anon
instead we got aliens
>>344463230
>At the end Sigma gives up his body for Kyle so he can live normally in the perfect timeline
Who?
>>344462947
>intentionally spoiling the game for yourself
Fucking bullshitters.
>>344463230
>>TWEEST is that whole game was from Maria's perspective who is trapped in the field during her coma and is trying to help Carlos,Kyle and Sigma
>>Maria can also tap into field and see all kinda of infromation
>>Maria was ? from VLR
Fuck you that sounds really interesting.
>>344462559
a wild ride
hope you both played 999 and vlr
>>344463018
After Carlos taunts him and his devotion for Akane and tries to rape her, all he can do is give Carlos a few lousy bruises.
On top of that, Carlos let him beat him up--it was apart of his act and he can't even say "brutal punches" later on without sounding insincere and sarcastic as fuck.
>Game starts with a coin toss
>Bunch of fags say it's red
>My nigga Junpei calls it blue
>Side with him
>Instantly beat the game
Too easy.
>>344464125
Don't bother responding to Cuckpeis, anon.
>>344449586
this makes me laugh everytimeam i autistic?
>>344464490
It's literally impossible to get the coin flip wrong the first time.
...or so that's what I've gathered from what everybody else has been saying.
>Carlos is master shifter after few jumps
>Sigma is a total retard despite being PhD in everything
>Phi did literally NOTHING aside being virus canister
Also riddle me this Batman.
How come we still can witness actions from Q's camera perspective in timelines where Delta was killed (we even get static fade out).
>>344462096
Reminder that Junpei tapped that ass.
>>344464743
Actually all outcomes are rigged
Randomized my ass...
>>344464836
Riddle me this
How did Phi even live until April without killing herself from Radical-6
the answer is fuck you uchikoshi wins
>>344464836
because you are actually the Quantum Computer, that's why in the timeline where Delta tells Sean "remember it" when it tells the password for the head thing you see things in first person and Delta talking to you
>>344464952
No, only the coin and the dice are rigged.
>>344464125
It's obvious that Carlos is physically stronger than Junpei and would probably win in a real fight between the two.
Junpei reacted the way any other guy would in his position. Just because he's not swole enough to K.O Carlos doesn't make him a "beta".
>>344464836
>How come we still can witness actions from Q's camera perspective in timelines where Delta was killed (we even get static fade out).
Fuck.
>>344464895
>reminder that in VLR timeline akane and sigma NTRd junpei.
>>344465038
I don't think the dice are rigged, my friend tried it 4 times and still hasn't gotten lucky
>>344464895
well earned
>>344465038
I'm pretty sure the monty hall problem is rigged too
I don't think you can get the mask without switching
>>344465171
it's a 90%, but some dude got it by staying
>>344465171
there's a file that says the odds are with you if you switch, but it's random so you still might be wrong
>>344465171
It isn't rigged. I remembered the monty hall shitposts on /v/ and switched my first time and ended up failing.
>>344465018
Probably hospitalized and closely monitored so she couldn't kill herself if I had to guess. Sigma and Dianna should have contracted it too though since they were right next to her.
>>344465171
I doubt it's rigged to only one side, I know some people that got it wrong even when they switched.
>>344465117
In VLR timeline Akane was a dried up virgin and Sigma fucked his robot daughter.
>>344465394
Okay but why didn't they display symptoms and kill themselves before getting to the moon and living with each other for three years
On top of that, how would Phi have been able to go volunteer to be frozen at the Crash Keys baseI have this debate every day and win every time
Uchi should've went full madman woth Dice roll.
Actual 1/216 odds.
>>344464895
My boy finally got his payoff.
Feels good man
>>344465136
I'm fairly certain you get it after 3 rolls, because that's what I've heard from everyone else who has played it, plus Akane specifically talks about "but what if we've rolled the dice three times instead of one?"
>>344465151
>timeline God abandoned
>but her and Phi's asses still exist
Everything Akane says is wrong.
>>344465524
75% mortality rate
>>344465551
And people would do it as well.
>>344465478
Implying they didn't fuck right after this.Mask and all.
>>344465069
>Implying Junpei doesn't act like a passive aggressive and bitter beta cuck around Akane most of the time
>>344465749
Wrong, because everyone who gets it kills themselves as stated by VLR
75% is more of a fabrication than fanatic bio R
Also, why would Phi display symptoms during VLR and kill herself in the Clover route in VLR
I have to admit that whole Pantry segment was lretty morbid and really eerie, since you could figure out what happened (or saw Pod room fragment).
>Carlos and Akane joking while heating up Junpei's severed arm
Wish whole game was like that.
>>344465551
he should have gone half madman, and had actual 1/216 odds, but bail you out with an autowin after like 10 tries, not something as low as 3.
>>344465749
I think the 75% mortality rate was a meme made up by Delta for the analogy of killing 6 billion out of 8 billion.
>>344465792
>calling her out when she acts hypocritical
>bitter beta cuck
Please stop speaking in memes.
>>344464895
There's no proof of that
Okay so I am not sure if I am getting this shit straight from epilogue files but...
Is Eric his own fucking father and did Mira actually get killed by herself?
>>344463901
I don't even know what those are.
>>344466346
>did Mira actually get killed by herself
pretty sure that's a no
>>344466346
Yes, it's so universally accepted that it's pretty much canon.
>>344466346
no and no
>>344465779
>mask an allthat's kind of hot
>>344449003
Buy it. They need the money more than you do.
>>344466310
>passive aggressive snarky remakrs of a beta cuck that has no other meaning to get back at her
I guess that's why you people like him so much, he reminds you of yourself
>>344448001
>recently saw the new Ice age movie
It was pretty shit but the female sloth looked like Diana
>>344465910
The only thing that makes sense to me would be if one resists the initial urge to commit suicide from Radical 6 then they don't have a problem with it after that point. Phi might've been given another injection of Radical 6 during the AB Game, brining the suicidal urges back.
This is just me bullshitting but it's honestly the only thing I can think of that could make it almost make sense.
>>344466407
the names of the two games in the series before this one.
starting at ztd is retarded and you should feel retarded
>>344466346
It's a meme like the "Kyle is Gab".
I am sure some people believe it's true tho
>>344466578
Holy shit she does.
>>344466594
And it's still total nonsense, right?
I wanted to believe that Uchikoshi knew what he was doing too but then I finished the game and realized that it wasn't the case at all
>>344466407
>Playing the last game in a trilogy without evening knowing the names of the previous two titles
Namefag pls.
>>344466578
aaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>344466681
This game is like Mass Effect 3, a perfect jumping point for new players
>>344466783
Fuck off
bad game
>>344463230
This is leagues better. I wish it was true, especially the Maria part.
The Sean "twist" in the game was also disappointing, so I guess I'd prefer your version of that too.
Why did Shadow the Seanhog attack C-Team after they shifted?
Inputting X-Passes from other timelines?
>>344466578
THEY EVEN HAVE THE SAME EYES!
Why did this game sell less than va-11 hall-a
>>344450986
Diana
>>344467000
PENALTY
PENALTY
PENALTY
yes
>>344451817
>>344461582
>doesn't know what a sweater dress is
>>344466531
No, I like him for a lot of different reasons, all of which are more comprehensible than just spouting out tired memes.
It's whatever, to each his own.
>>344466673
I feel like Uchikoshi is really good at building up interesting settings and characters but has trouble bringing it all together at the end as a coherent whole, which is why he resorts to mindfucks a lot of the time.
I think he also ran into trouble when he started making ZE too "big" by introducing too many new ideas with too little time to explain it all.
>>344467071
>40 dollars/euros for a game with no replay value, easy puzzles and MEH story
Only good part of this game was this guy and HAPPY END
D Team was really disappoitng.
Sigma was an idiot.
Phi did nothing.
Diana is just a shittier Luna.
>>344467071
Because it's worse than va-11 hall-a
>>344467387
why did they repeat that same x puzzle like 5 times holy fuck
>>344467356
Yeah yeah, criticism is memes and only you have the truth. Such novelty from Junpei fanboys
>>344467431
Not that anon but
>implying VA-11 HALL-A is better
>>344466310
I actually am mainly kidding. The only real issue I have here is how awkwardly their relationship was written. Their differences and tension is shown off - especially with Junpei's "call-outs" - but never resolved or elaborated upon. Akane looked genuinely pissed or saddened each time, too. She might've DESERVED it, but the point of Junpei being pissed off is loss when neither of them gets anything from it. It just comes off as a sign of an incredibly unhealthy relationship.
Junpei seems like a cuck, but I'll admit that the writers didn't intend it and fucked up with their portrayal of him.
>>344467510
B U D G E T
Fuck, the puzzles could have been so much better. And why cutscenes? I would have just preferred 999 and VLR's VN style.
>>344465928
Don't forget how Carlos played rock paper scissors with the decapitated arm and then said that there's no way he'd do such a childish thing.
...Yeah, that whole fragment was a riot.
Sigma!!!
It opened!!! It opened!!!
>>344451229
Yeah but she left his heart...
>>344466578
>Phi if Diana licked it.jpg
>>344467552
it's way cheaper and has better artstyle and animation
ZTD looks so fucking bland too
>>344467552
It is better though, also cheaper.
>we want the western audience!
>dumbed down puzzles
>AMERICAN ACTION HERO as main character
>>344467937
Carlos was the American hero ZE needed though.
>>344467562
I can definitely see that. It helped me a lot to read the Dcom prologue from the pre-order booklet. Akane straight up ignoring him when he finally meets her and then brushing him off when he asks her for answers puts a lot of his hostility towards her in perspective.
Yes, it could have been depicted a lot better though.
Post your overthinking moment.
>Recreational room
>I thought that those colored lines mean that I have to switch between room mode in certain order and pattern
>2 hours later I realized that I just needed to take picture of red block
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET CARD 2 IN THE CONTROL ROOM ?
Need this shit for the trophy.
>>344467387
>wanting that piece of bullshit puzzle back
>>344467367
>he started making ZE too "big" by introducing too many new ideas with too little time to explain it all
Agreed. VLR was great, but it introduced, like, 20 different plot point and only wrapped up half of them, expecting ZTD to do the rest. Meanwhile, 999 introduces about three, morphogenetic field, the nonary games, and Alice. And it wraps up the first two in-game and VLR immediately wraps up the last.
Worst puzzle room? Transporter room for me, I honestly just looked up a walkthrough for that shit.
>>344468413
dunno, look up some youtube playthrough or something
>>344468538
Nothing.
Game was legit piss easy, never ramped up with difficulty.
>>344468317
>bio lab with its pill containers
>trying to figure out the pattern of missing pills, and how it corresponds to the order of the samples
>it's just color-coded numbers
>>344468484
999 was bullshit though.
>7 seven said he saw akane dead
>literally never get his explanation on that shit
>>344468538
For some reason that room with the power generators and furnaces gave me a ton of trouble. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't light up the furnace and got confused with the gas pipe directions. Didn't help that the room was so big and I had to constantly scroll around until I noticed what I messed up.
>>344468856
>didn't even open that locker
>still had no trouble
I thought it was some sort of locker that I was supposed to open later in the game. Never did open it.
>>344468968
he lied
>>344448001
hermione has downy eyes
>>344469124
I know it sounds like he's joking but I'm pretty sure he actually did lie.
>>344468484
VLR explains the stuff about the mistery of its own game and only leaves things open for the sequel, I don't see the problem
>>344468975
>Have the mold and tin
>Can't figure out how to get them in the furnace
>"Fuck off I know exactly what you want me to do with this shit"
>Just had to tap a pixel lower than where I was actually tapping it
>>344468538
The biolab fucked me over because I couldn't pixel hunt well enough, you have to find the centrifuge manual and I spent fucking ages tapping everywhere on the shelf and couldn't pick it up. Same thing happened when I tried to look into the sink.
>>344468484
>VLR immediately wraps up the last
Does it really? They didn't really explain anything about Alice (the mummy one). They brought it up casually in a scene or two, but that's it
>>344469646
The mummy wasn't real
>>344468642
>no final puzzle
It would have felt great alongside the satisfying climax/finale we didn't get.
>>344468968
>Seven looks...satisfied about something.
>Wait, don't tell me he-
Seven was in on the plan all along, amnesia or not.
>>344469879
>he lied for no reason
>the mummy wasn't real
Nice job, Uchikoshit.
>>344465779
>>344466497
someone should make porn out of this
>>344461343
I feel like both VLR and ZTD screwed up the "horror" atmosphere 999 had. The setting felt more oppressive, jumping wasn't done so casually so deaths had more impact, and the way they introduced strange concepts like Ice-9 and mass consciousness and eventually tied it all together into the morphogenetic field was great.
>>344469264
>and only leaves things open for the sequel
But that's the exact problem. It left ZTD the obligation to tie up so many mysteries that it just wasn't feasible. Just off the top of my head, without playing VLR in years, you got
>Dcom and the outbreak of Radical-6
>what lead up to the VLR future and what is the alternative
>Brother, Left, and FTS in general
>Phi and Diana's origins
>the entirety of the bonus ending, including Kyle and ?, Akane's involvement with Dcom, and maybe Clover and Alice if you care
That's a lot to coherently solve in one game, especially if you want to introduce new mysteries and try to make said game open to new players.
>>344467660
because the game is from deltas pov, he's always watching the cameras
>>344467510
Because it was fun and easy
I just finished this now, had to stop for a little while because of work.
Holy fuck, the bastard did it again.
He pulled a Remember11. Fucking hell, Uchikoshi. Why???Game of the year. Easily. Nothing comes close.
>>344448001
Anyone know which file this is from?
>>344468538
Monty Hall room. I'm utter shit at direction puzzles.
>>344471191
yes
>>344471017
I would say I'm on the uchikoshi defense force but if this is GOTY I'm glad I don't play many games anymore
>>344471397
I mean the one with the question marks anon
I thought you were supposed to win the coin toss by clicking on Junpei, after it was referenced during the room puzzle how lucky he was to get all 7s on the slot machine. Is that not the case?
>>344471682It's rigged to occur on your third playthrough of the scene.
>>344471191check the suits of armor in the rec room
>>344470869
It's not a problem because VLR does give you enough explanation about those things to keep the story working, the conclusion of the series was the one that had to give you extra information (which isn't relevant to VLR because that story is over) about some of the things introduced.
And most of those things are tackled in ZTD, the way they are tackled is what some people question
>>344471507
It's not been a great year, but even out of the good stuff released I've liked ZTD the most. But I'm an Uchikoshi fanboy so I'm biased as fuck.
My other games close to being GOTY are Digimon, Salt and Sanctuary, DaS3, Kirby Planet Robobot and Guilty Gear Xrd R. I prefer ZTD to all of them.
>>344461343
The main thing I didn't like about the way ZTD handled the morphogenetic shit is the change from barely acknowledging its existence in the first half, to suddenly (consciously) leapfrogging across time and space in the second.
If it was as simple as Team-C made it look, you'd think that the 3 people specifically sent there to stop something would do exploit that shit to succeed, without needing someone (Carlos) to make them realize they can do that shit in the first place.
>>344472195
Why isn't this in the game?
>>344472195
what the hell is this
Any SFM Sigma x Phi x Diana yet?
>>344472261
My guess would be the budget.
Seriously I liked ZTD but it lacked more character interactions between everyone from different teams.
Also the lel you forgot everything drug made character development pretty shitty as everyone was always reverting back
>>344472381
The Booklet with the story of what happened at DCOM
>>344454708
i really need to go back and replay that game now that i know thatakane is the narrator on the bottom screen
>>344471857
Bummer. I thought I'd been clever.
A lot of decisions sucked dick in this game.
The one I was really hesitant about was the revolver and incinerator.
>>344473638
>DON'T DRINK THE ANTIDOTE IT MIGHT BE EVEN MORE POISON
>>344473638
>get to the chair with the gun
>recognize it as the promotional art
>uchikoshi has, for some dumbfuck reason, switched the side the gun is on as well as changed the entire chair's design
I didn't even give a fuck, I just killed everyone.
>>344473767
Well, it might have been.
>>344473638
Yeah I wish they did some more morality stuff
Even fucking Junpei calls out Zero for making them roll dice as a "decision game"
>open force quit box for C and D
>carlos just goes full rape mode and diana just figures out who phi is
>no endings or hints unlocked from that
>no password for Q's computer or whatever
I tried all the dates relevant to the game. Where am I supposed to get this password?
Retard here
How to solve phi puzzle in the trash room
>>344474294
Leave her to burn
It takes 30 minutes to trigger though
>>344474183
Also, I don't have Q's real name for the 3-way standoff. I have a few guesses, but I feel like I shouldn't proceed with that path until the game tells me who he is.
>>344472393
Holy shit Sigma is retarded.
>>344474183
You are literally told the password in Q-END 2.
>>344474602
I need the platinum trophy anon
>>344462096
>someone saved my image for the first time
Neat
>>344448001
Who's the girl on the left. She's cute.
>>344474632
That's one of the 2 endings I don't have
>>344474183
you need to unlock a fragment where q's on his own after the game (which I'm pretty sure requires Healing Room, Bio Lab, and not much else); from there, you learn a password; that password can be used in the fragment with q, sigma, phi, and eric that I know you've unlocked together with some information from c and d2 endings to get the password to the force quit box
>>344474772
That's a boy.
>>344474183
>>344474619
If you've gotten D End 2 and C End 1 then you should already have the answers for both.
>>344474772
>girl
>>344474847
Force Quit Box is obviously the true ending segment why are you trying to do it before the others.
This is a Japanese policeman.
>>344474772
anon, I'm sorry but...
>>344474772
ignore everyone else who's replied to you; her name is phi and she's the daughter of the girl in the other hand and the guy holding the two of them
VLR was more emotional to me.
ZTD didn't even try.
>>344474183
kill everyone at the execution
>>344474876
I've done all the quests according to steam achievements but I don't have that
>>344474937
So am I just supposed to guess that it'sdelta? There are no real hints pointing toward that.
>>344475062
Because I need Q's real name to do the only other ? space on the flowchart
>>344474887
>>344474952
>>344475136
Goddammit. Every fucking time. You know what? I don't even care. I'd still hit it.
>>344475332
So you don't have access to the fragment where you learn Q's real name? That doesn't make much sense to me. Have you said "I don't know" to Eric's 20 second decision after Pod Room yet? Have you executed every team through the votes, or pressed the button with every team?
>>344475062
Underground detective, apparently. Junpei has not seen nearly as much shit as Seven.
>>344475256
Thanks.
>>344474294
>click until you find stuff
>send it down the chute
Easy peasy.
>>344475618
I'm not sure about the last part. I got all the bubbles filled but I never saw cutscenes for all the teams dying
>>344456937
he's 67, lives alone on themoon, aftera while of being isolatedyou stop giving a shit about how you look.
>>344475368
She's a girl anon. You've been rused.
>>344475280
ZTD relies completely on the previous games to gain it's impact.
If somebody played this game without playing 999 and VLR they would be left even more disappointed than those who did.
>>344475894
I don't understand why she looks older in ZTD.
Maybe I'm wrong here since I forgot some of the details in VLR, but didn't she participate in the decision game then freeze herself to participate in the AB game so she could go back to the decision game and prevent Rad-6 from releasing?
Or did she freeze herself and then go back to a time where she could weasel her way inside the facility and start playing.
Because only the former makes sense due to the whole "we were born here" thing.
>Transporter Room
Surely I must be missing something? I need at least one another clue to figure out these symbols.
>>344474294
Wait until you do the transport room.
>>344476128
Use the TCG board and use the notebook. It's actually pretty simple if you can manage to keep track.
>>344476128
All of the prime numbers except 11 are obvious, as is every composite number, 0, and 1. That means the only symbol that isn't obvious is 11, and there's coincidentally only one symbol left over.
>>344475847
>lives alone
>>344476128
You can figure out almost all the symbols from just the equations in the book.
Anyone else think Delta was Dio at first? When Diana said "Delta... D-" I thought that meant he would end up becoming Dio.
Delta is a complete retcon of his VLR self and his motivations.
>>344476313We all know that Kyle doesn't matter anymore
>ywn wake up in bed next to Carlos
>ywn make him happy even more than Maria makes him happy
>ywn make breakfast for him while he sneaks up behind you shirtless and hugs you from behind
>ywn cheer him up when he is sad
>ywn be saved by him when danger comes
>ywn have a man so dedicated to you he'd let versions of himself die multiple times just for you
>>344476743
Is Carlos white?
>>344476784
He's AMERICAN
>>344476784
He is hispanic.
>>344448001
Not reading this thread, nor will I do anything after this post, but thanks to Amazon I now have three copies of the game for Vita and I've only paid for it once. I still do not have the watch that I ordered, however.
>>344476825
Which side of the wall would he belong on?
>>344475315
Thanks anon.
...But how am I even supposed to interpret this? Is she just smug that her darling Junpei beat up Carlos, or...?
>>344477080
I still don't know how Akane went from that to how she looked in ZTD.
Everything about the model is good but the face
.I miss Clover
>>344476128
Pretty sure after you use the card game board, a chapter in the book opens up explaining that any card with more than one symbol means multiplication. It should be a snap from there.
>>344476784
I know two Carloses.
One is Portuguese. The other is white. It's really just a name, doesn't have to mean much.
>>344477080
Cmmon anon, you know the answer.
>>344475280
I'm disappointed Akane and Junpei hooked up without having a good honest conversation dealing with Junpei's valid grievances regarding the whole Zero thing, and some thoughts behind the strength of their feelings regardless.
Not that anyone who's name isn't Carlos got much depth to their arcs in ZTD.
>>344477257
>using cinematic cutscenes meant no cute Akane surprised pose
>no cute Diana putting her hands above her head like Luna pose
>that stupid fucking face Carlos makes any time there's a shock announcement.
>>344477423
It would've been real nice to see, especially since Akane seemed genuinely confused when Junpei was acting like a dickhead.
does anybody have that picture of junpei fucking clover while she says "you just have to learn to let go" or something like that?
>>344476743
>>ywn make him happy even more than Maria makes him happy
I mean besides from the fact that he doesn't exist that's entirely impossible, so keep speculating.
>>344476470
>that imagetfw Junpei locks you both into a bad end and all you can do it let it happen
>>344472195
>>344472393
I can't get enough of Diana x Sigma
>>344472261
The same reason that Carlos, Junpei, Akane, and Q-Team got written epilogues rather than cutscenes, I'd imagine.
>>344477907
Best couple.
>>344476487
A lot changes in 40 years.
Just beat it, what a disappointment. No closure, characters spent the entire game acting retarded, it's like Uchikoshi completely ran out of ideas and just crammed in twists to distract us.
>>344476125
She participates the game in ZTD, is frozen a few days later in the Rad-6 timeline and has her mind erased thanks to the drug used in ZTD, she only looks younger because of her overall appearance, clothing and the lack of glasses
I thought Sigma was supposed to be some incredibly intelligent scientist. Why does he act like such a hothead in ZTD?
>>344479420
He's senile
>>344468538
>confirmed for not graduating high school
>>344479420
His brain fried the moment he saw Diana after 45 years
Not sure if anyone's posted this yet (or if it happens in other rooms too) but I found this interesting interaction if you input some of the passcodes in the study without finding the files first.
>>344480163
It happens every time you input the solution of a puzzle withouth finding it
Sigma accused me of cheating because i didn't click on the drainer but just wrote down the numbers
>>344480163
I got this because I figured out SPIN in the rec room before I got the chess hint
>>344480163
I legit guessed the die in the rec room on my first try without the hint and I got a special dialogue so I assumed it was like that for all of them.
>>344466578
Ok now I'm pissed
Akane and Junpei look nothing like they used to in this game. If the game hadn't said that they were those characters I would have never guessed. Even their hair colors are different.
>>344482292
I prayed the whole time that it was a fake junpei and fake akane because six people had to die in the VLR timeline and they both looked and acted completely different
but I got bullshit instead
>>344482247
Amazing.
>>344482721
Junpei acts the same way, he just put on an hard attitude and during the course of the game it breaks and we see his usual self never went away
Akane's always been a liar just as she always craved Junpei's D
>>344455526
she goes to jail
>>344482292
Junpei is hotter in this game
the terrorist is a lie right?
there is no way that a guy like Delta that can even put stuff like Quark as an X-pass and has all that stuff can't find or stop this guy
>>344482247
KEK
>>344482953
>Junpei acts the same way
I don't care if he had a year of bad experiences since 999. He acts like a completely different person, and a total tool at that.
He had the potential to remain a really interesting character, but instead Uchikoshi forced him to be the antagonist on C-team because Carlos was a total hero and Akane wanted to help everyone. There would have been no conflict otherwise.
>>344483127
The alternative is that Delta had some other motive behind getting them all together and letting them live and just didn't tell them for some reason
I'll go with the terrorist
I just finished this, where the heck was Kyle?Sean was the only likable character.
>>344463230
Imagine if there was a perfect recreation of the garden with old Akane from VLR in this. Goddamnit
Sigma
>>344476470
At the very start of the game Zero grabbed the rim of his hat, like Dio used to. The exact same way.
I was sure Zero was Left somehow.
>>344482247
make the earth red, at least in the second one.
There should've been more moments where Phi and Sigma flirted with eachother.
Kyle is not canon guys. There is a reason that ending was hidden.
>>344485335
B-But that forbidden love!
>>344485358
I haven't been in the threads before this, has Uchikoshi said anything about it? Why would he set up something like that and then not use it?
>>344485562
Exactly. That's the best part.
>>344485771
I remember someone saying they were going to ask Uchi about it, but I don't think they have yet.
Help
>>344486071
Cancel it.
Why was all the technology from future VLR in ZTD too?
>>344449586
that reminds me, who killed Akane in the Betray bad end? she just seems to up and die
They even had an explanation for the robes Akane was wearing in the VLR epilogue so it's not like they forgot about it. Could it bea sequel hook?I can dream, can't I? ;_;
>>344486665
It's kinda hard to develop new technology when R6 is killing75% of the world.
>>344486665
M I N D H A C K
>>344486994This was supposed to be the last game, but then again Uchikoshi is a hack, so maybe.
>>344486968
If Junpei gets injected same happens to Akane and Phi
If Carlos gets injected same happens to Sigma and Diana
>>344486994
It's in the ending where Carlos rescues them, Delta invited her to a meeting and gave her the robes.
>>344486968
The announcer did say if Carlos picked betray, Akane and another girl will get executed too
>>344486994
Depends if ZTD sold well enough
>>344486994
I'm not sure I want another sequel after ZTD.
>>344487268
I wasmostlyjoking, but part of me does want it. Even a mediocre Zero Escape is still a fun time for me.
>>344462947
>just guessing Delta
yeah ok pal
>>344482960
when is that said?
new thread when?
>>344488918
Friday
>>344468856
the same thing happened to me, I felt like a fucking retard when I finally got it
>>344456000
>carlos and akane standing perfectly still
nice trips btw
>>344480163
this happened to me a lot
>see some hint
>find important item
>solve the puzzle without reexamining the hint
>"how the fuck did you know that?"
>"I just guessed lol"
>>344450875
Junpei didn't need to be in ZTD, we know what happened to him and his story arc is over.
Akane didn't need to be a main character, her presence was out of place and she reverted back into being an air-head.
Mira and Eric were a waste of space and should have been replaced with Clover, Alice, Kyle, Seven, Ace, Santa or just better characters.
Brother being Zero being Phi's brother is the most contrived shit ever.
Also, the fragment system is garbage. Decision games were interesting but nothing compares to the AB games.
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