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>Nothing is Uncrackbale
Wrong.
So Wrong.
>>344431294
you know some russian guy already cracked it right?
Crack's not far off from being finished, though.
>>344431294
>already been cracked like three times
>they think polymorphic security solutions are really that easy to crack for every game and protection version
>they think locks are made to not be cracked ever
When will you learn that locks are made to act as a deterrent or at best a delayer?
Fucking tech illiterates are always hilarious whey they think they're people.
>>344432283
How ironic.
>>344431470
Mkdev ?
Bronco ?
Mkdev just doing another family sharing exploit & Bronco dont want to release his crack.
>Game doesn't have Denuvo
>"Gee, this game was fun/okay/garbage, I'll buy it right now/wait for a sale/be glad I didn't waste money."
>Game has Denuvo
>"I don't know how this game feels, so I'll never play it or wait until the game is like five dollars."
>>344431294
Did DOOM get cracked? Sounded to me like people were giving up on it.
I ended up buying it. Single player was good. Multiplayer is nothing special.
>>344433556
No single denuvo game since late 2015 has been cracked.
Video game piracy is dead.
>>344433285
>Game doesn't have Denuvo
>"Day 1 pirate"
>Game has Denuvo
>"It's been two weeks and I still can't pirate it. I can't wait any longer so I'm going to buy it"
>>344434618
>having this little self control
That person didn't deserve to have that money in the first place.
Did Diablo 3 ever get cracked?
>>344435137
It was cracked for singleplayer offline, same with shit like sim city.
But then again
>caring about diablo 3.
>ever.
The issue with D3 wasn't any kind of copyright protection program that costs a billion dollars to license, but oldfashioned forced online.
>>344435137
Not sure but you can Pirate it and play it SP on PS3 and 360.
>>344431294
>>344433127
>>344433660
I wonder what makes Sonyggers so fucking autistic. Some kind of fumes from their console? Just buying Sony stuff instantly damages your brain?
After Bloodborne shilling threads died off (they lived much longer than game itself, though, huehue), plebs came up with idea of trolling ppl with Denuvo shilling
I guess that happens when you have no games to play on your gookstation 4
>>344435446
>copyright protection program that costs a billion dollars to license
Denuvo costs 100,000 eur for a AAA dev, which is fucking nothing. The cost is recouped with less than 2000 sales.
>>344435810
Why even pay to license it and risk pissing off everybody, when you could use a far more commonly acceptable DRM like always online, which also doesn't require outside support to keep secure?
>>344431294
BUT IT'S UNCRACKABLE
THOSE PAST CRACKS WEREN'T REAL CRACKS THEY WERE JUST EXPLOITS
THEY'VE BEEN PATCHED
THE NEXT VERSION IS UNCRACKABLE(TM)!
>>344437263
>risk pissing off everybody
Literally nobody even knows what Denuvo is. The only people that get pissed are a tiny minority of forum dwellers and pirates that wouldn't buy the game anyways.
If Denuvo is so good, how come there is no demonstrable evidence that it boosts sales of games using it?
>>344437737
because people pirate games as a demo to see if they like it, and if they do they'll buy it. but no demo(pirate) then no buy
atleast this is what pirates told me
>>344437737
The evidence is no publisher is stopping to use Denuvo after they use it once.
>>344437737
Because there are other games to pirate that don't use it.
>>344434618
You mean
>It's been 8 months
>>344437737
>how come there is no demonstrable evidence that it boosts sales
Because it doesn't. All Denuvo games sold like shit. Like utterly depressing sales numbers.
New Hitman for example, sold like 250k. Rise of Buttraider sold like 2 mil, just cause 3 1 mil. Just shit sales after shit sales.
>>344437737
It doesn't boost sales, much like starforce before it. No one likes it when devs put a literal lock on games. It's insulting.
But people are used to less obvious locks, like always online, steam, and origin, so those are largely okay in the public's eye.
>>344438207
That is not evidence.
Evidence would be sales increasing for games that use Denuvo. To date every game that has used Denuvo and has been a sequel to a game that didn't use it has not outsold the older games in the series.
FIFA is by far the best example. It sells almost the same every single year, and the most recent one which used Denuvo sold the exact same amount as every other FIFA game. Wasn't Denuvo suppose to boost sales? Because it sure didn't with FIFA.
Infact, one could say EA literally wasted money using Denuvo, and if they'd simply not used it FIFA would have been more profitable for them.
Denuvo is literally losing developers/publishers money when they use it. They're paying lots of money for nothing.
>>344435803
>read a simple fact
>explode with rage
Dude
>>344438445
Its been almost 11 months b t w.
By the time it hit 1st of september, Denuvo will be literally 1 year Uncrackable.
>>344438509
>sales in the millions
>shit sales for a pc game
What are you smoking?
>>344438669
So why they still dont ditch denuvo & instead more & more publishers (even the indie ones) is using denuvo ?
Answer me that question.
>>344431294
Yeah you're wrong op, and ?
>>344438669
Total War Warhammer is the fastest selling Total War game
>>344431294
>OP
wrong, so wrong
sage these retarded threads you fucking faggots, I'm tired of seeing this shit
>>344434618
>t. Redditor from /r/crackstatus
No one on this website will actually buy a shitty denuvo game because there isn't any crack.
>>344438795
Probably because they've paid to use it for the next x many years and since they've paid to use it, they may as well.
Alternatively, publishers have been trying to convince us piracy is bad for decades now and how it's literally killing everything and going to cause the death of every relevant industry. Yet these same industries piracy is killing are increasing on a yearly basis.
Publishers have been spouting this shit for so long they actually believe it now.
>mfw lefty manbaby leeches driven to delusion
Denuvo offers a useful tool for the developers because it removes one variable that couldn't be kept track of.
Which is pretty cool. If a game sales poorly its down to advertisement or game quality. And if the marketing budget is already bloated, they will understand finally its because of poor quality.
>>344439007
Do you think publishers care what forum the customers they gain with denuvo browse?
>>344437487
bullshit, I would've bought Doom if it didn't had that anti consumer mod-breaking shit on it
>>344439103
They just want to makes pirates BTFO without affecting sales, thats all.
>>344438982
An incredibly niche series expanded it's audience by basing their game off of something that has millions of fans. Of course it was going to sell better, before it was "Total War who cares", now it's "Total War Warhammer" and got access to the huge Warhammer fan base.
That isn't Denuvos doing. That is the developers expanding their fanbase.
>>344439225
t. forum dweller
>>344439203
cuckolds from reddit piracy boards are less numerous than even faggots on /v/.
>>344438717
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>>344439332
But they are literally paying a lot of money to do this. Paying huge sums of money for literally no return seems like a bad business move to me.
>>344435803
It's the same sad cunt in all of these denuvo threads.
Anti-piracy measures are needed because without them software would lose its value. You can argue that cops aren't needed in a small peaceful town, but chaos and lawlessness would grow without the arm of the law; piracy is the same.
You guys talk like every single game before Denuvo was free to play and things like "cracks" weren't needed.
I'm not sure who is more pathetic the denuvo shills or the people who get baited
>>344438795
Indie devs don't have the 100k+ dollars on hand to license this shit. They just put their game on steam straight away instead.
It's a far more effective system, anyway, and you only have to pay Gaben any money if you actually make money.
>>344434872
>having this little self control
virgin detected
>>344439196
This.
Not gonna lie I was pretty disappointed when I couldn't pirate the new Doom.
But I'm sure as fuck not going to buy it. Maybe when it hits the bargain bin.
>>344439501
100k Dollars means nothing to those publishers.
>>344434618
>"Day 1 pirate"
Yes, but everytime I like a game, I buy it afterwards. This was the case witch Cities Skylines. I tried it out, played with it around 2-3 hours and bought it immediately. However I dodged many-many bullets with pirating.
>"It's been two weeks and I still can't pirate it. I can't wait any longer so I'm going to buy it"
I bought Total War: Warhammer because of this. I wanted to like it, but it was shit. I wasted 60 yuros on it and promised myself, that I'll never buy a game again I can't try out before.
>>344433127
>Bronco dont want to release his crack.
sounds like he's just making shit up for fame then
>>344439365
This in the wake up GW themselves killing the old world and warhammer fantasy.
There likely isn't gonna be any new real warhammer games, a fact that people on places like warseer and BOLS took note of, and decided to buy total warhammer instead of some OOP tomb kings.
>>344439704
If that reddit thread was true, then Denuvo has different fees depending on the game, developer and publisher. They don't ask $100k to everyone.
>>344439704
Its been confirmed that 100k dollars are for AAA publishers only.
For indies, it ranges from 1000 dollars to 20000 dollars depending on the game.
Post proof of Denuvo only costing $100k for an AAA release or fuck off.
It probably costs a percentage of all sales. Not a flat fee.
>inb4 some retard posts that story about some guy pretending to be an indie dev asking denuvo what it would cost to put denuvo on his game
>>344439225
Congratulations, you're part of the tiny minority.
>>344439196
No big publisher will ever admit to having poor quality. They'll find something to blame poor sales on no matter what. At the moment it's piracy, previously it was used-game/second-hand sales, next it'll be entitled consumers or developers not living up to 'company standards'.
The buck will always be passed.
>>344440017
those le reddit post is legit.
>>344440000
Checked.
It's simple, if you don't pay for it, you don't deserve the entertainment.
Don't know if you'll enjoy it? Find another hobby.
I wonder why pirates always fail to grasp this simple conce-
>waaah I want free stuff!!!
right, they're immature babies. That does explain it.
>>344439835
I cannot find any actual information on how much it costs to use Denuvo except for one post by a random person on gamefaqs. Which is hardly a reputable or valid source.
>>344440104
>those le reddit post is legit.
unless it was confirmed by a Denuvo rep then no, it isn't.
>>344440000
>THOSE NUMBERS
NICE
>>344440000
Nice get
>>344440000
wew
If I were a game developer, I'm sure as hell I would use Denuvo with my game. I wouldn't want people to play for free something I had to invest money, resources and time to create, and I would know for real if the thing was good enough to sell or not.
>>344440000
>00
Nice dubs
>>344440000
That explains why some indie games are using it.
>>344435803
>Consolewar bait in DENUVO thread
How much does EA pay you to deflect these threads?
>>344440265
But putting the game on steam, origin, or always online costs 0 dollars, whereas using a DRM company to provide a middleware DRM solution costs X money, and X is always more than 0.
So you'd not be using it.
>>344431470
>he actually believed Russians.
>>344435803
it's a small group of shitlords trying to paint PS4 owners as stereotypical manchildren
>>344438737
Just Cause 2 sold more than 3 million
First Tomb Raider sold 4.5 milion
Last Hitman sold almost 3 million
Those Denuvo sequels sale numbers are not acceptable at all. What are YOU smoking?
>>344440175
Check it yourself then.
Those Denuvo rep are literally answers everything.
>>344440716
Burden of proof on you.
>>344432283
This.
Publishers just want the early release sales to be secured. It doesn't have to be uncracked forever, it just needs to last at least 1-2 weeks for each big title.
>>344440616
Shit games = Shit sales
Simple.
>mfw haven't pirated a single game in almost 6 years
get a job
>>344440774
Search "Denuvo Employee" on r/crackstatus.
Too lazy to search it on there since those subreddit is depressing as fuck.
>>344431487
How long you going to keep telling yourself that?
>>344431294
x64 debugger is almost here, prepare for glory
>>344438982
>fastest selling
>equaling best selling
"no"
>>344440829
>Shit games = shit sales
Do you live in fantasy world m8?
>>344440829
This 2bh
No game ever actually failed to make money because of piracy
>>344440919
>man claims he is denuvo employee
>suddenly everyone believes him
i work for denuvo and it costs 10% of every sale to use it
>>344440616
>Three-six years old games have more sales than a games released a few months ago
Are you stupid?
>>344440616
>Just Cause 2 sold more than 3 million
In the same span of time while never dropping below $40? Or were most of those sales over 6 years when the game has been sold for $2.25? The same for the other two. This is such a disingenuous comparison and you know it.
>>344434618
>>"It's been two weeks and I still can't pirate it. I can't wait any longer so I'm going to buy it"
This could actually be the case if as a hobby playing video games suffered from scarcity, but that isn't the case. There are so many games available (and some are good for hundreds of hours or even more) that you should never actually find yourself in a situation where you don't have anything to play if you don't buy the latest AAA shit-looking game that features Denuvo.
If the game looks like shit and you can't try it out to see for yourself, then you play something else until you CAN try it out or it becomes cheap enough for its apparent quality.
>>344434872
>being this poor
>>344440949
The game has been out for 2 months and you expect it to outsell games that have been on sale for years? Are you retarded?
>>344441110
We already know games get like 90% of their sales in the first month. We've known this for a long time now.
>>344441147
Everything about these threads is disingenuous. No surprise there.
>>344438509
>What is Total War Warhammer
>>344441110
>comparing a sequel to it's prequel isn't allowed when Denuvo is involved
Oh i see, must i compare it to what then? Witcher 3 sales? Call of Duty? Maybe some game released yesterday?
>>344441215
Just because there are a lot of games available, doesn't mean someone can't have a particular game they really, really want to play.
FACTS:
A good game will sell regardless of being protected or not.
A shit game will not sell regardless of being protected or not.
The only change here is pirates not being able to play the game or not depending on the protection scheme.
>>344441378
Show the numbers please, bring the others from the series while you're at it. I'm sure it'll wreck them now that it has Denuvo.
>>344441086
>Being this denial while its literally 100% confirmed by Denuvo empolyee.
Suit yourself if you dont want to believe that.
>>344437412
What's your point?
>>344441296
Do you have Just Cause 2's first month's sales figures?
>>344441519
>implying that was a Denuvo employee and not someone pretending to be one
okay.
so like i said, it's bullshit. no one actually knows how much it costs to use it.
>>344441419
Yes, people often make shit, impulsive decisions because they don't use their head, true enough.
>>344441497
>A shit game will not sell
>EA Battlefront, 17 million sales
>Final Fantasy XIII, 7 million sales
>Diablo IIII, most preordered game of all time
Keep believing that shit games don't sell my friend...
>>344431294
congrats on selling something that does nothing else than filling your own pockets, Denuvo
that alone is quite a feat
>>344441595
Square reported it sold 1.4 million in it's first week.
>>344440802
We're looking at years, and only for the best games. Nobody has time to crack a game for free for a game that had security code custom written into its program.
>>344441817
On PC alone or with consoles included?
Denuvo made me buy Total War Warhammer. I don't regret it. I'm glad I can pirate all the DLC at least.
>>344441643
>0.5 sec reddit search later...
Here. Read it carefully & dont miss even a single word.
reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4mtb46/conversation_with_a_denuvo_employee/
>>344441817
In comparison, Just Cause 3 sold about 840k in it's first week.
>>344441942
All platforms for both.
>>344441817
Do you have an actual source?
How many of those were PC sales?
>>344431294
Tons of games that use denuvo have been cracked, it's just a matter of patience.
>>344441736
Then you should take a look at for example Far Cry: Primal. No one talks about that game, but according to steamspy, only around 200.000 people bought it on Steam. Obviously the total numbers are a bit higher because of uPlay, but I don't think that it sold so well.. and it was a very shitty game.
>>344441946
>I'm glad I can pirate all the DLC at least.
Is this true?
Both games are new IPs.
Both games are attempts to plagiarize two popular games (Dark Souls, The Witcher).
One uses Denuvo. The other doesn't.
Note how piracy had no impact on how the public saw both games.
The funny thing is, the Denuvo protected one sold enough to get a sequel greenlited.
>>344442020
You could google it.
http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/pdf/20101104_01en.pdf
“JUST CAUSE 2” 0.56 million units (JPN: 0.05, NA: 0.26, EU: 0.25)
5 SQUARE ENIX HOLDINGS CO., LTD.
* 0.92 million units sold in NA and EU in FYE March 2010, 1.48 million units in total
>>344433127
>bronco
>mkdev
>I have this crack! Ha! Of course I do!
>N-no no, I won't release it!
>It was easy to crack of course i just wanted to try how hard it was, this wasn't even a challenge!
>No I just did it to observe what Denuvo will do!
Pathetic if you ask me.
>>344442164
>Tons
Only 4 Denuvo games cracked (by loophole which is been fixed)
And 20+ Denuvo games uncrackable
>>344441947
>I pretended to be a game dev post
Like I said: it's bullshit and not a valid source.
>>344434618
It does not work that way though.
>>344442012
Then that only proves that Just Cause 3 wasn't as good received that 2, not that Denuvo made the sales magically drop.
>>344441278
are you? can you please tell me where in the english language fastest selling is the same concept as best selling?
alternatively when you're done rubbing two brain cells together you can point me to where they provide a number other than the 500k one
>>344442213
A good game can sell like shit, a bad game can sell like shit, a good game can sell well, a shit game can sell well.
We don't live in an Utopia where quality translate into sales. I'm sorry to drop reality on your face.
>>344440519
And having people playing the game for free? fuck that.
>>344442301
>You could google it.
You could provide evidence for your claims, before someone asks for it.
>>344441736
The entire point of the bland AAA industry lately is that it sells on their core audience, naturally, and pure hype. The hype generated brings in the wider audience that will buy the game on impulse and due to marketing, but not play it very long/finish the game. Thus they want a preventative measure in place to guarantee those initial sales before people come to a general consensus on the quality of a game.
It's the same reason films have review embargoes; if the embargo is lifted the day of release then you know the company has no faith in it and it will probably be a shitty movie. A good movie will have the faith of the company and a very limited embargo; a good game will stand on its own and sell well without the need for DRM.
>>344431294
>>Nothing is Uncrackbale
That is true you dumb shit. The question is it worth the time to crack it? Everything can be brute force at the very minimum
>>344442434
Denuvo didn't made it magically go up as well. So tell me, what's it for?
>>344440265
>I would know for real if the thing was good enough to sell or not.
That is a common assumption of peddlers of shit games.
>>344442364
No person who makes that much of effort just to troll. Especially from someone who have a rep from that subreddit.
Look the image proof.
>>344442609
Guarantees that only paying customers have access to the game. Something every software company worth its salt does (or tries to do).
>>344442636
You're doing the same thing right now.
Also, work on your English. You're very obvious.
>>344442636
>implying that it would be hard to fake what he did
Maybe I should fake it so I can retire this shitty Reddit meme.
>>344433127
>Bronco dont want to release his crack
just like that chink that "cracked" it a while back who ended up lying about it?
>>344442434
It also shows Denuvo has no effect on sales.
Literally every game that has used Denuvo and been a sequel has not has an increase in sales over past games in the series that didn't use Denuvo.
FIFA is by far the best example. It sells about 6 million every year. Has for like a decade now. Want to know how much FIFA 16 sold (that uses Denuvo)? About 6 million.
Infact, one could argue that Denuvo is decreasing sales because most games using Denuvo are selling worse than other games that didn't use it (within the same series). There could obviously be many reasons for this, but a trend is starting to emerge and that trend is use Denuvo and get worse sales.
Denuvo has no demonstrable effect on sales. So why bother using it when using it costs money?
>>344431294
>Nothing is Uncrackable
True and Denuvo knows that too. Their goal is not to be uncrackable but merely to be uncracked for about the first 2 weeks of release.
The impatient kids who want the game on day 1 - that's all Denuvo needs to be profitable.
>>344441296
On consoles- PC sales are long term affairs, but three years is a bit long for this argument.
>>344439556
this.
cracks and DRM existed before denuvo, the only difference is that denuvo has proven that they really do have the strongest DRM to deter piracy.
>>344442796
>>344442812
You actually believed it.
But you just dont want to accept it & instead judging my grammar ;)
>>344440000
The one thing I don't understand is, do I as a dev care? What I mean is, what numbers and statistics can they come up with to actually tell me that paying them 5k (or whatever) for their software will net me more profits.
Asking as someone actually attempting to make shit.
If they came and proved to me that by giving them 5k USD I would get an extra 25k, I see no reason not to take it. But they can't, can they? If they simply told me "w-well it can't be pirated!", it seems kinda pointless. From what I can remember, Denuvo games didn't have anything special. MGSV sold a fuckton as expected, but the others weren't particularly good.
>>344442780
>Guarantees
You know that it cost resources right? So you're investing your business resources in a solution which grants no monetary gains for your business?
>>344442858
Because you can't have your software unprotected. If you don't do that there's going to be a point where no one will want to pay for it.
>>344443112
Having a lock in your car doesn't make it go faster and costs money.
Would you keep your car without a lock?
>>344442249
LoF is getting a sequel?
i hope so, because it was at least playable compared to the garbage that Technomancer was
>>344431294
What I find most delightful in life are these absurdistic things that happen to the status quo.
All of you were going with the idea of "well they will always be cracked, because durrr hurrr piracy, hurrr durr morals, durrr hurrr ppl ur smurt, hurrr durr hackers and muh socialism"
and then the improbably happened, piracy was actually made impossible. Now you guys are the ones with the shoe on the other foot. Just like the devs who were saying that before. You guys are now the party who will get shit upon.
The status quo was changed once more and I find it to be glorious. I have already accepted this reality and I am fighting all of your damage control and processing of this reality to be very delightful.
Its probably even more delightful than the games that I am missing now because of denuvo. Well who cares, I enjoy them a lot less lately anyhow.
>>344443136
Plenty of games with no DRM at all have sold amazingly well.
Infact, the GOTY last year didn't even use DRM.
>>344443278
Yes.I personally liked the game, but I'm not very optimistic about the sequel; the publisher fired the original developers to make the sequel themselves.
>>344431294
All that is available is a bypass that requires you to obtain a ticket from a legitimate copy (must have access to the Steam account that owns the game). Thus, unless you have the proper credentials to an account with the game, the bypass simply won't work. Pretty fucking pointless if you ask me.
>>344443334
Bloodborne doesn't need DRM because it's a console exclusive.
>>344434618
Why do I have more than 100 games in my Steam library? And I'm a relative poorfag who doesn't even play games that much.
>>344443272
>comparing a game with a car
Took you what? 2 replies? Should i just drop Neil Gaiman video and end this discussion with you rebutting to it?
>>344443550
Good joke, but we both know I was talking about the real GOTY.
>>344443779
So, can I go to CDProjekt.com and download The Witcher 3 just like that?
>>344441497
>"B-but, but, we'll earn a few more sales from people who otherwise might not have bought it!"
>also lose sales from people who are opposed to Denuvo or would have played it and bought it afterwards once they knew it was good
All the counter-arguments are utter shit, and I look forward to the day when Denuvo is cracked so these pathetic shills can stop making these circlejerk threads
>>344443845
No, but you can go to piratebay and download it just like that.
this seems like an interesting scene to get into, if anything for the challenge of reverse engineering protection software
Is there an entry point somewhere in english ?
>>344443861
Well its their product, they are entitled to do as they want with it. Who are we, a bunch of pirate, free loading losers to say anything else about it.
Let them get their stats, let the market work, let them make demo's again. It will be a good experiment.
>>344443845
>no DRM means giving games for free
Someone lives near thisa anon? Bad things needs to happen to him right now.
>>344443920
No no no no no.
Those are cracked copies.
You claim that TW3 doesn't use DRM. That means that I can go to the developer's website, download and install it without paying a single cent. Right?
>>344444123
It's not cracked you retard. There's no DRM, there's no need to crack it.
>>344444123
You just need to pay to get the download link, dingus. What you download from GOG is just the same you can download from TPB
>>344444123
>DRM = free
Why be an intentional assfaggot?
>>344442448
I don't think you know what best selling means. Fastest selling is the only fair measure.
>>344444354
Then it means that you're supposed to pay for the game.
DRM or not, you're still doing something illegal.
>>344444123
oh boy
>>344444123
No drm doesn't mean free you obtuse retard
>>344444123
Just because something doesn't use DRM does not mean its free you faggot.
It does not have any "locks" it doesn't require crack, the version you download on GOG does not differ one bit with the version you download from Torrents.
>>344441736
actual shit, not the "I hate it because I am on /v/" shit
>>344444797
>you're still doing something illegal.
and who the fuck cares?
>>344444797
And CDProjekt is making millions.
>>344445064
So, it's ok for me to download the GOG version? Can I ask for support with the developer if my TPB copy doesn't work?
>>344439872
>warhammer was shit
what a fucking terrible opinion you faggot.
>>344442249
>PS4 version of game A vs PC version of game B
>Games with completely different publishers and marketing
>le every game is dark souls maymay xD
>This two year old game could get a sequel, but this one that's barely a week old hasn't gotten a sequel yet!
Thanks for the mildly retarded, completely useless post, broski
>>344442734
>No person who makes that much of effort just to troll.
Is this your first week on the internet?
>>344441514
It's the second highest selling game, I'm fairly certain they have that info posted on their website. It's also the fastest selling game.
i cracked denuvo on my computer.
i'm not gonna release it tho, because there's a Sony van is outside my house.
>>344431294
Just cause 3 cracked
Farcry 4 cracked
Womb Raider cracked
Etc
Stay mad console peasant
>>344445378
No idea, try it. It's added to your library the sameway.
CDPR are stupid faggots
If not for their "muh no DRM" policy I would HAVE to pay them for witcher 3
But they choose not to use denuvo so I just downloaded a torrent and enjoyed my game for free
>>344445378
No, the fuck are you on?
No DRM can be compared to a door to a house without a lock.
Just because you can just enter there without any problems like the owner does not mean you own the house and can just go in and do whatever you want.
It's still not your house and you are there illegally but there was just nothing stopping you from entering it.
>>344445654
>cracked
You mean the ticket shit that require you to know someone who own the game to run it or the non-existent crack from bronco/mkdev who claim that they cracked it but don't want to release it?
>>344445586
>second
Oh, how sad. The Denuvo didn't helped them.
>>344445378
What are you even trying to do or say?
It's obvious you come from elsewhere. You have to go back.
literally uncrackable.
thank you for killing the video game business, denuvo. idiots. how are those sales?
>It's another, "I don't even have a fraction of the information available to publishers, and haven't spent a penny researching piracy's effects on the industry as opposed to their millions, but DRM is pointless according to the accredited source My Ass" episode
I love these episodes. They're always so funny.
I don't know why /v/ is so angry about Denuvo.
Aren't all modern games shit?
denuovo isnt the only one that's uncrackable
windows 10 store games like gears is uncrackable
>>344434618
I have 800+ games and haven't bought a single one with hard DRM like Denuvo.
>>344445490
>le every game is dark souls maymay xD
Learn to read. He called Lords of the Fallen a Dark Souls rip off and The Technomancer a Witcher rip off. Unless you are insinuating that LotF is somehow not a souls ripoff, which is blatantly incorrect.
>>344445554
Keep on Denial anon ;)
>>344445875
>I don't know why /v/ is so angry about Denuvo.
A large majority of /v/ has no disposable income. Either because they're underage or NEET. It's literally just a case of sour grapes.
>>344445473
>what a fucking terrible opinion you faggot.
No it's not. It is really a bad and boring game.
>>344445817
My point is, everyone claims that a game not having a DRM system like Denuvo makes pirating them ok.
>>344445654
Can i borrow your time machine ?
Or maybe you're on different universe where Denuvo is cracked ease as pie.
>>344439129
>lefty
I yearn for the times when videogames didn't cost 60 fucking dollars for 2 hour showcase demo.
>>344446067
No, he's right. You have really shitty taste.
>>344445875
I'm 60% through Firewatch and it's pretty good, though overpriced.
>>344446016
kys
>>344446141
It's not "okay", it's irrelevant.
Pirates are not a target group for sales.
I cracked this shit but I'm not releasing it because I want to continue playing games for free instead of seeing it patched
>>344446395
>Pirates are not a target group for sales.
As one of many many people who only buy a game if it's MP or uncracked, you're talking out of your ass.
>>344431294
Denuvo 2.0 hasn't been cracked, yet. The last one wasn't cracked either (just bypassed). They keep updating it.
Its literally over guys. Tomb Raider Rising is like 2 years old. still no crack in sight.
denuvo isn't really that hard to crack, they just gave all the decent teams jobs so now we get to rely on slavs throwing potatoes at the code until they get enough vodka to squat on the encryption
>>344446585
Those are people who wanna play multiplayer games. How old are you buddy? Piracy exists since humanity created digital goods. Look around you, no apocalypse. Piracy is irrelevant, music business threw a fit agianst it, learned that isn't worth it. Movie business threw a fit against it, learned that it isn't worth it. Videogames are the infants that actually already passed the phase of throwing a fit about it, but there are some who still holds dear the idea they can make money fighting piracy.
Been there, done that. You'll learn with time.
There are only two valid complains about Denuvo (and to be fair they're tow big ones):
>A third party software hogging resources from your machine
>A third party software being required for you to access your games so the very moment a publisher tanks the game you paid for is lost forever.
Those two are a legit reason for a paying customer to refuse to buy a Denuvo-protected game
Any other complains come from mad pirates asspained that they can't steal software anymore.
The funniest one is "they wasted money licensing some DRM software!"
Why do you care? are you a shareholder? are you working with the developers
i think its an internet thing. there hasn't been a 'uncrackable' drm thing in a while. used to see this shit all the time in magazines, online articles, word to mouth. but now the internet is so big, its easier to make a giant deal out of something that really isnt. its not like denuvo has a 100% rate, its been circumvented.
w/e. get mad at something thats been said for the last 20 years.
>>344447024
>Piracy is irrelevant, music business threw a fit agianst it, learned that isn't worth it. Movie business threw a fit against it, learned that it isn't worth it.
And they're still throwing a fit against it, because it's still hurting their sales. It's like you're too retarded to remember SOPA, PIPA, and the hundreds of lawsuits they file every year.
It's not that this is a technical impossibility but a lack of motivation and manpower.
Many more people buy games and the old pirate disc selling market has shrunk dramatically so there's very little monetary and rep incentive for cracking games now.
>>344447168
>A third party software hogging resources from your machine
This has been proven false a hundred times. Denuvo doesn't read/write any data.
>A third party software being required for you to access your games so the very moment a publisher tanks the game you paid for is lost forever.
A very real concern. Since Denuvo only works through Steam you'd hope they signed off on something in the contract that allows Steam to remove the Denuvo activation, but nobody but them knows that.
>>344446141
No one said that you utter cretin. They simply said Witcher 3 lacks DRM you dumb nigger.
>>344438014
>>344438014
It's how I started pirating games.
The death of demo-disks did it for me.
I haven't bought a game since Denuvo's bullshit, but that's also because the triple A landscape has been dominated by like 6 fucking franchises.
There ain't' shit for diversity in vidya now a days.
Or it's some Indie Smorgus board.
I've enjoyed a couple Indie games, but by and large that's been a bandaid on a growing sore.
i just want to play tomb raider
>>344448072
The funny thing is, thanks to the internet it's possible for even console games to have demos.
Why are piratefags literally the GIBS ME DAT of video games?
You stop getting your free luxury goods, you chimp the fuck out, and go on an internet crusade about how you're entitled to free luxury goods. It's really sad.
>>344447558
No such thing as a lost sale.
I love that so many PC poors have to watch from the sidelines while normal people with money get to enjoy new games.
>>344447558
>piracy hurting sales
[citation needed]
>>344448193
Buy it.
>>344448339
>>344448339
There's still been very little that's legitimately interested me over the years.
Too much of a focus on money maker titles, not enough innovation overall.
>>344448482
It was never about increasing sales. Poor people don't deserve to join in on this hobby.
>denuvo isn't really that hard to crack, they just gave all the decent teams jobs
>>344446721
This. Honestly, it sounds like denuvo is giving these crack teams a percentage of every sale made. And since 3dm stated that they will be taking a hiatus for about a year I think it is safe to say that this contract that denuvo has with the crack teams will last about a year.
>>344434618
I haven't purchased a Denuvo game yet.
>>344448512
'no'
If pirates are better customers than regular payers, then why commercial games still exist?
Wouldn't be easier for every game to be downloadable directly from the developer, having an in-game "donate now" button?
>>344448650
Haha, you haven't played Inside.
Go play The Witcher 3 for the fifth time.
>indie games starting to use denuvo
>would have actually bought Inside if it was reasonably priced
>instead it's double the price now because of the expensive drm
Time to play the refund game I guess, what a shame
>>344448380
>not wanting free luxury goods
What the fuck is wrong with you, anon? You don't want to improve your standing in life? You don't want to live in opulence and not have to work for it?
>>344448586
Do you cry yourself to sleep thinking about it?
>>344448675
Yes
>piratefags getting btfo
>>344447168
You forgot about it killing the modding potential for a game
>>344448452
>>344448482
There's plenty of research out there you can look up. Here, I'll spoon feed you both since you're obviously retarded. You might want to get familiar with this site before you go to college. https://scholar.google.com
And just from personal experience, yes, it does. I loved The Witcher 3, but I never paid for it because I can get it literally for free. I loved the demo of DOOM, and bought it because I couldn't get it for free. I have dozens of pirated blu-rays in my collection I surely would have bought if there were some means to enforce me to.
I get you guys are upset you aren't getting free shit, I am too, but just say it. When you make shit up trying to defend it while demonizing companies trying to protect their digital goods it's just pathetic.
>>344448943
No, I giggle my motherfucking ass off.
>>344448932
I do, Anon. I just don't feel entitled to free shit. If I can get it, awesome. If I cant, fuck it, I have a job and can support my hobbies.
see >>344449230
>>344449150
You're right. Total War Warhammer only has 1,223 mods. Modding is dead.
has anyone used antidenuvo
thinking of trying it for a game or two
>>344449570
No.
That thing looks like a huge scam.
>>344449570
It's fine, but really not worth it if you want to hold on to the games. The ruskie will cut you off the family sharing at some point to replace you with a new customer. For me it was about a week.
>>344449748
Oh boy
Don't tell me the mighty "anti-denuvo" thing everyone bragged so much was just a group of russians taking advantage of Steam's family sharing.
I thought it was a legit crack.
>>344449230
Agreed.
Not being able to get shit for free fucking sucks, but I can't blame companies for trying to protect their investment.
>>344449748
Antidenuvo isn't family sharing, it's an offline installation. You can't go online with that steam installation, and also can't update the game, but it should work indefinitely as long as you don't go online
>>344449523
Now look at Doom 2016
>>344450149
It was family sharing for me. I was online for around a week before I got cut off.
I guess I got a bad ruskie.
>>344450489
I guess it depends on the game, some games may not allow offline play at all
>>344450370
That has nothing to do with Denuvo, but with Bethesda not releasing any modding tools.
>>344450370
Now look at Just Cause 3. 179 mods on the first google result alone.
>>344440265
I am a game developer and if your game is good and people steal it that means there is at least interest and you have a chance of actually making money.
>>344431294
Only game with Denuvo that I've wanted recently was DOOM which I bought.
Denuvo is so late to the party. Nearly nothing is worth playing anymore single-player wise that I'd ever have a desire to pirate.
>>344431294
>I Capitalize Like A Retard
>>344450836
DOOM and Warhammer have fortunately been the only Denuvo games worth even playing.
That'll definitely change though. More and more publishers are going to jump on board.
>>344431294
>go to steam store
>look at game
>see denuvo
>immediately back out
>give my money to a different company
it's not hard.
>>344451514
>go to steam store
>look at game
>check piratebay
>it has denuvo
>shitpost on /v/
fixed that for ya
>>344451514
>i buy games based on stupid bullshit and not on whether I want to play it or not
is this the worst meme to happen to video games?
3DM is taking a break to stock pile security vulnerabilities
By releasing a crack for each and every game they're basically bugtesting Denuvo's software for them
>release game> 3DM cracks> denuvo fixes crack> better version of denuvo for next game
That's moronic and you should be able to realize why. When 3DM's hiatus ends every Denuvo game will be cracked, and they'll have done it by burning only a single vulnerability
Nothing is uncrackable, the stakes have just gone up
>>344451780
Piratefags spread desperate lies when they don't get their way. They are truly pathetic.
>>344451780
considering every single denuvo game has shit performance besides metal gear solid 5, i'd say it's a great reason to ignore denuvo.
>>344450636
Just Cause 3 is cracked.
>>344451918
But Denuvo has literally no affect on optimization.
Why are you telling lies, Anon?
>>344452024
A quick search says you're full of shit. Provide a link or fuck off.
>>344451397
Yeah, but for PC gaming it doesn't matter. Very few pure exclusives other than indies or strategy games/4X games.
Multiplats, while being ported the PC way more than in the past, still just slowly stream out. I like Dark Souls so I knew I'd buy Dark Souls 3. Witcher 3 didn't even have any DRM attached but I bought it because it looked good and I liked the others.
Sure, I might be an exception but there's no need to pirate anymore. So little comes out in the AAA sector. If anything I just see this fucking over Russians or BRs. A global piracy issue. Not a domestic US one.
>>344452140
>But Denuvo has literally no affect on optimization.
it absolutely does, this is a literal known fact.
>>344452597
Care to post some sources that aren't just yours or some r/crackstatus posters ass?
>>344451918
Not really.
I've only bough three Denuvo-protected games: MGSV, Doom 2016 and Lords of the Fallen.
MGSV ran great (bizarrely it ran better than Ground Zeroes).
Doom ran great, but I had to do some tinkering with the settings.
Lord of the Fallen ran fine, but it had some slowdowns in open areas.
My PC is a FX6300+660ti toaster and still managed to run those games without too much hassle. Meanwhile launch XCOM2, now that was a game that ran like shit.
>>344452597
>>344452140
Which is it faggots? Someone provide a source to your "facts".
>>344440901
Nice try daughter fucker
>>344452597
>>344452140
You're going to need a source to back those facts.
>>344452798
There's no need to back it up.
The butthurt rumor that Denuvo read/writes data has been proven wrong a hundred times. It's not hard to check this yourself.
It's just pirates justifying not having any disposable income.
>>344453097
>It's not hard to check this yourself.
Nah, fuck you, anon.
If you do a claim you need to present the evidence to sustain said claim.
"just google it" isn't enough.
If you're going to pirate games, don't even bother with the, "I'll buy it if I like it" bullshit. Most if not all of you don't ever end up buying the games and stick with your free version.
I couldn't give less of a fuck if you pirate it, just don't keep up the paper thin disguise of "muh honoraburr piracy." If you're going to do a dubious act, own it.
It's the same reason I'm voting for Trump.
>>344453292
>telling me that the information I want is easily obtainable on my own with only a few keystrokes isn't enough
Nah, fuck you, anon.
>>344453292
this ain't debate club kiddo
>>344453718
>>344453801
>No evidence
I rest my case.
>>344453574
I don't have to justify piracy. I do it because i can and it's free.
But i have a bunch of games on Steam which i pirated first. Games i can't pirate, i don't buy, because i wouldn't buy in the first place anyway. The innability to play for free, doesn't make me buy it.
Check Evolve for example. Goes f2p, now there's 40 thousand people playing it. There was 170 last week. Same rule applies, those 40 thousand people are playing because it's free and they can, they weren't 40 thousand purchasers. It's a whole different public. Pirates are not people who wanna buy your games, just deal with it.
>>344453962
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=denuvo+read+write+data
Here you go, retard. Fuck off, now.
>i'll get to pirate all those denuvo games just you wait!
>>344454206
All you get is unverified claims.
>>344454535
>DOOM and Warhammer are shit games anyways. Enjoy your trash.
>>344446721
I figured Denuvo was made by crack-makers in the scene who wanted to play for the other side and make some money.
I'm curious, does Denuvo require online authentication?
>>344454728
Unverified claims that are very easy to test for yourself if you aren't some kind of retard unable to even google for himself.
Here's off the Denuvo homepage, though.
>No. As mentioned before, Denuvo Anti-Tamper does not constantly read or write any data to storage media.
>B-But they're lying!
Nah, it's easy to test, and a lie like this could bankrupt them.
>>344454854
Only once during the game install.
>>344454962
So how come they aren't bankrupt then?
>>344454962
>during game install
So if, hypothetically, the servers were to go down in 5 or 10 years because of whatever reason, would the installer just not work?
>>344446313
Not really, he is right and the game is crap.
>>344455375
The only thing that is crap is your tastemy friend
>>344455285
That's a really obvious problem. You'd think Steam would make sure they have some way to remove that or move the servers over in case Denuvo goes under, but nobody knows.
I can't really see why a multi-billion dollar company with a monopoly on an industry would just lock their games away behind a 3rd party with no safety measures.
>>344447806
>Since Denuvo only works through Steam
no?
>Only pirates hate DRM: ^ )
>>344448825
>Inside
You can finish the game in less than 2 hours and just refund it aswell.
Or you could also just watch the Youtube playthrough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1FU-T2EsVA
>>344456028
Steam and Origin, yes.
Thanks denuvo
>>344435803
Fucking this!
>>344435803
I'm a PC gamer (I haven't had a Sony console since the PS1) and I love Denuvo. It will literally save PC gaming.
>Buy hundreds of games
>no one cares
>Decline buying Denuvo games
>HAHAHAH POORFAG DETECTED, GET A JOB
denuvo shills are on par with sonyggers
>>344456513
>this amount of falseflag
0.05$ has been deposited into your account
>>344440000
WITNESSED
Who the fuck shills for a fucking DRM?
is this what baitposting has come to?
>>344431294
DELETE THIS
Exactly how much of a fat virgin do you have to be to get triggered by piracy?
>>344456826
Nobody shills for Denuvo. It's all falseflagging to trigger piratefags.
Are you new to /v/?
>>344456547
Denuvo shills ARE Sonnygers.
A ''PCuck'' will sometimes slip from them, and they get mad as fuck when PS4 gets called out on how it doesn't have a single game that's higher than 3/10.
>>344456826
People who like watching piratefags cry now that they can't steal games anymore
>>344457068
Tomb raider is already playable now, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>344453574
I don't bother.
I only do it because, for some reason, moralcucks like you get mad as fuck about it, with is autistic as shit, but then again, you have to be pretty autistic to be triggered by piracy.
>>344457068
I can, I just buy CD Keys for $10 to ensure I do not support companies.
>mfw I will never, EVER be this virgin
>>344457254
>I do not support companies
Given how pirates always mock and insult buyfags, no wonder they're shilling for denuvo.
>>344457391
Why would I want to support the most rotted media industry in the world?
>>344457485
Because they make the shitty games you want to play?
>>344457254
Where do you think those keys come from? Do you think they come, like you, from your mother's asshole?
>>344457364
what? it's literally the first google image search result for denuvo.
The image is even named denuvo by default.
>>344457612
Bought with stolen credit cards, slavs, etc.
I pay less money, and all of it goes to some random slav while he squats in front of the computer.
I get my games, some random bro gets money, the developers get less money.
It's win-win situation.
>>344440829
>Shit games = Shit sales
>>344457731
Most if not all of CD keys are bought legally but in regions where games are cheaper. Sorry buddy you're not fucking anyone over.
But you do save a couple of dollars so that's good!
>>344457564
Why would I support them?
Piracy died for me, that much is true, but because a lot of games nowadays are not even worth pirating.
Let this industry crash, burn, let companies like EA, Activison, Ubisoft, etc die, let the indie market dissappear since it's 99% shovelware, and then maybe we can go back to another golden age.
>>344457731
>the developers get less money
Exactly.
You're still supporting those "corrupt companies". They're still getting money from you.
>>344457875
>Most if not all of CD keys are bought legally
Not true.
There's no region in the world where, for example, Arkham Knight was $10 at release, which is the price I paid for it.
The less money these companies get, the better.
Much better.
>>344440000
quints
>>344457906
Because you want to play their games?
If gaming was so bad as you gibbergabbers claimed you shouldn't want to play those game at all. Not even for free - and certainly not for $10.
6794
>>344434618
You fucking deluded assholes.
I've been pirating all my life and if I can't pirate a game I'll simply not play it and move on to something else.
Video games are a luxury item, not a necessary item, and I don't need to play any of them.
>>344440000
Source?
>>344458076
Why does my hypothetical make you feel so threatened? Why do you believe your anecdotal evidence somehow makes it invalid?
>>344458076
>i feel this way so everybody must
There are undoubtedly people who have bought games that they really wanted to play if they aren't available for free.
>>344458036
>Because you want to play their games?
I may want to play one game every now and then.
Problem is, 99% of the games released nowadays are garbage, so it's not worth supporting this industry.
There's many games I haven't played, I could do fine playing those while the industry dies and is reborn for a decade.
Seeing EA, BioWare, Ubisoft, Naughty Dog and all these pretentious talentless hacks in the indie market out of gaming would be worth it.
>>344431294
>being a poorfag
Nice """"""master race""""""
>>344458036
>brings GG out of nowhere
Why am I not surprised that the ones shilling this DRM are fat Tumblrinas?
Also, yes, gaming is horrible right now.
Go ahead, prove me wrong.
>>344435803
While I think Witcher 3 is the better game I do think Bloodborne should've gotten more awards. Maybe take all of MGSV GOTYs and give it to BB since MGSV BLOWS
>>344458314
I've played great games this year.
Maybe you just don't like videogames anymore.
>>344456826
I'm a piratefag but I honestly like Denuvo: creating a DRM that lasts this long is indeed something special.
I would love to work for them desu senpai: working around those brilliant minds must be awesome.
>>344458305
I'm not sure what you mean by threatened, and it's not anecdotal. If a pirate can't pirate a game, he won't buy it.
t. pirate
>>344458308
No, it is you who feels that way and think everyone else feels the same.
>There are undoubtedly people who have bought games that they really wanted to play if they aren't available for free.
Yes, but the exception doesn't disprove the rule.
>>344458418
Well, the GamerGate dudes are the ones trying to turn gaming into some kind of epic political statement so that anon is not wrong.
>>344439556
source on this pic?
>>344458006
Maybe they were selling at a loss for a promotion what do I know. The idea that somewhat serious companies who sponsor esports tournaments and "pro gamers" have access to seemingly unlimited amounts of stolen key and no one can do anything about it is frankly inane. Just think about it for even one second and you'll agree.
>>344458314
Why do you kids always try to politicise fucking video games all the time? I'm pretty sure you don't do it about other stuff.
Want to play a video game? Then buy it. Don't wanna play? Don't buy it. If you unironically think that the business of making video games is significant enough that your "gamer duty" to exercise to maximise your non-existent consumer power then you are fucking deluded.
Luckily you're probably somewhat sane and it's all just excuses to pad over how mad you are over not being able to pirate games anymore.
>>344442434
actually i didn't try just cause 3 cause of denuvo so i didn't buy it.
one sale is lost for sure because of that
>>344458116
Anon said it. Double quads confirmed it. That settles it.
>>344443334
This.
I bought TW3 and will be buying all the DLC soon, just because I've played it already and know it was worth the 100+ hours I'm dumping in.
>>344438717
>caring about fifa
>put your game in a fucking VM just so people who wouldn't buy it can't play it
There's a point where this needs to stop and we've clearly passed it.
>>344458641
It's not a rule just because you say it is, and your stance on pirates is purely anecdotal.
>>344437737
Publishers would never produce the evidence (and really, they're the only ones with the evidence) because that means that they would have to have a dialogue about piracy. It's better for them to quietly give pirates the middle finger and let their normal customers not be any the wiser.
>>344459182
>WAH WHY CANT I GET FREE GAMES ANYMORE
>>344459182
>protecting your game from would-be thieves is some evil act
>>344458834
>Maybe they were selling at a loss for a promotion what do I know
Or they gave keys as gift for the purchase of certain GPUs. I remember how some anons got keys for the new Tomb Raider along with their new Nvidia cards.
>>344459182
Companies have all the right to protect their investment, in the same way as a consumer you have the right to not buy their products if they have something you don't like.
>>344458418
>tumblr!!
It wasn't out of nowhere, I'd call it a hunch, but it seems I was right.
>>344459182
You know who is to blame for it all? Pirates are :^)
Piratekeks have cucked themselves. Denuvo is blacking them all.
>>344439556
>Denuvo are equal to cops in our society
God save us...
>>344448825
>pretentious indieshit
lmaoing at your life
Limbo was also garbage
>>344459182
I fucking love Denuvo.
>>344459367
It is when it affects legitimate customers.
I wouldn't give a fuck about it if they had the decency to remove it a month, a year after release. But that's not going to happen, and you will be stuck emulating the PC version of Doom on your PC forever.
>>344459652
Good thing it doesn't then.
>implying I will buy a single player game, ever
:^)
>>344459652
how is Denuvo harming paying players??
>>344459652
>Pirate whiteknighting legitimate customers
Weren't you calling them
>"buycucks", "cretins", "imbeciles"
Not too long ago?
>>344459781
it's not, assmad pirates will make up anything
>>344459781
Read up on how it works.
>>344459781
it's not. He is just a mad pirate or someone that believes memes such as
>denuvo kills SSD !!! :---DDDDD
>>344459914
That's not how an argument works, anon.
After Denovo I bought a Playstation 4. There is no reason anymore to play on pc without piracy.
>>344460081
Go away Sonygger shill.
>>344445586
to be fair it's probably because of the license
I don't even understand why are we having this conversations.
It doesn't matter if the game authenticates by killing a puppy every hour, as long as it runs properly on your PC.
>>344457142
What gave you the impression I'm a moralfag? I just said I don't give a damn if you pirate, the only thing that bothers me is trying to act moral about it. Your buying habits, or lack thereof, don't effect me in the slightest.
So, like, whatever.
>>344445770
Are you a fucking idiot?
Rome 2
>been out for years
>multiple 75% off sales
Of course it's sold more than warhammer so far, you retard. Holy shit
