GOTY or Invisible War 2.0?
>>344422373
Human Revolution 2.0
So mediocre but not necessarily bad.
>>344422373
We're not off to a good start if MECHANICAL APARTHEID is the theme they're going for.
>>344422670
well what did you think was going to happen after what society was like in HR?
>>344422670
Why not?
>>344422485
>HR
>mediocre
>>344422373
I'd be more interested in this if I could play as a cute cyborg girl
>Denuvo
It's going to be shit.
>>344422373
>GOTY or Invisible War 2.0?
>Invisible War 2.0?
did you even play invisible war or are you just stupid
>>344423481
both consolized pieces of trash
what's your point?
>>344422485
>HR even being considered remotely bad
Anon are you okay?
>>344423558
do you want to actually make a post or just say nothing
>>344424116
nice deflection
invisible war was terrible.
leaning towards Invisible War 2.0. game seems very superfluous
>>344422867
>>344423583
what's up with all the HR babbies lately? I liked the game but it's far from perfect and was universally agreed to be sub-par compared to the original when it was released
the dialogue battles and inventory system were probably my favorite parts
>>344424526
well you'll be sad to know that the dialogue battle system is gone
>>344424187
>nice deflection
>both consolized pieces of trash
every dues ex game is on PC
>invisible war was terrible
see >>344423481
>>344424612
No its there still, look at the early footage of Adam talking to Rucker (greasy haired aug-fag) its the same system as HR
>>344424913
?
Invisible War was developed for consoles first and then ported to PC. This is no secret.
>>344424913
>every dues ex game is on PC
Are you retarded? Do you not know what consolized means?
>>344422485
>HR
>mediocre
kys my dude
>>344424972
>>344424919
>game is terrible because its on consoles too
if you have nothing to say just shut the fuck up
>>344425458
>even Warren Spector admitted Invisble War was trash in large part because they were forced to develop it for consoles
yeah bro you're right consoles had nothing to do with it
>>344425458
>>344425632
>>344425458
>game is terrible because its on a console
No one is saying that retard
It's bad because it was made FOR consoles so they we're limited with what they can do.
18+
Go get laid
>>344425632
Being on consoles is fine and all but 99% of games that are made for consoles have to make compromises either because of lack of hardware power or to fit all actions on a controller. This often leads to games that feel dumbed down and simplified, especially if the series started as a PC series where the original was more fleshed out and didn't feel as shitty.
Not even talking about Deus Ex as I didn't like the original but consoles for various reasons do lead to worse products.
>>344423441
Will you stop this meme
>>344425795
see >>344424187 >>344423558
18+
go read the thread
>>344425832
gunna need citation of where devs say this as warrens spectors conversations are only towards teams going against what other teams wanted to put in the game
HR had a gameplay downgrade, but it is still a very deep and open game for the player.
Considering the gameplay videos, I could already notice some great levels and even already saw some interesting ideas on how to do things. If the devs are legit, I doubt it will suck, hell, it could be really good. But im not sure it will get enough attention for GOTY.
I mean its Hitman 2.0 basically. Only fans were hyped for it, and only they play it rn. Deus Ex could sadly suffer the same fate.
Also denuvo is not very popular amongst pc gamers, where most of the playerbase comes from.
>>344426416
why do you need citation for that? are you unaware that keyboards have more buttons than controllers? and that consoles can't handle as much on-screen activity?
>>344425254
>HR
>anything but mediocre
Boy I sure love press X to takedown, no RPG mechanics, and 'dude vents lmao' level design.
>>344424526
>what's up with all the HR babbies lately?
Where?
In every single Deus Ex thread in the last couple of weeks, HR was completely shit on. It was called a casual fuckfest in some of those.
>>344426587
no you just can't claim a game is terrible just because it was created for a console
you have to actually make points
>>344422373
It's looking pretty bad desu
>no cool returning characters from first game
>generic "I left everything I knew and joined LE EPIC/GATEWATCH JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERPOL organization" creatively bankrupt sequel
>"mechanical apartheid" means awkward racial analogies that will be uncomfortable because being augmented is obviously superior
Seems like it's gonna be a stumble
>>344422867
>>344423583
>>344425254
Not him but HR was definitely mediocre
Boring quests
Terrible graphics
AI which can't even pathfind on a staircase it's that stupid
Story no one could give a fuck about
Seriously punished for going in shooting
Only positives were those conversations you could have with people and the augmentation debate. By the end of the game I only thought it was a little better than IW
>>344426416
Where in that post does it says it's terrible because it's on console
18+ get laid
>le IW is shit maymay
Pretty awful parrot opinion. And MD will be pretty great
>>344427062
It's not shit it's just a massive letdown
>>344427038
pity (You)
>>344426715
but that's why every game created for consoles is lesser than it could have been. this has been going on for a long time, well before HR was released.
>>344427309
So you admit it doesn't
Well played
>>344427017
I agree. No idea why so many people loved Deus Ex HR so much.
>tfw bought IW because some Anons said it was better than HR
>>344427017
>Seriously punished for going in shooting
as opposed to what? Deus Ex has always been a stealth game. Shooting in DX1 was terrible too.
>>344422373
its a improve HR, so yes
>>344427392
>Well played
I admit you can't read for shit and own a fedora it's literally right fucking there jesus the guy just above you just proved my fucking point you autist
>>344427762
>Deus Ex has always been a stealth game.
What are you fucking talking about? Having the option to be stealthy did not make it a stealth game.
Deus Ex has never been good so I don't know why you'd think this one would be any different.
>>344427392
Oh you still don't realize Consolized =/= it's on a console
GG NO RE
Because none of those post say
It's terrible because it's on a console
>>344427887
yet stealth was ALWAYS favoured. The game is entirely designed around stealth. Both games are playable with going in guns blazing but both games are fucking terrible at being FPS.
>>344428038
not an argument
>>344427887
Deus Ex is a fucking terrible FPS then.
>>344428038
They're not very good at stealth either. And that's one of the problems with Deus Ex. It allows you to play in a bunch of different ways but none of them are all that fleshed out. Deus Ex came out the same year as Thief 2 for instance and it pales in comparison to it as far as stealth goes.
>>344426749
>"mechanical apartheid" means awkward racial analogies that will be uncomfortable because being augmented is obviously superior
My only disagreement. Some people this will be the case, but that's what happens if you take a metaphor too literally. Your metaphor shouldn't be a 1:1 representation of your point, otherwise it's not a metaphor it's a carbon copy. If it's vague enough to be interpreted as multiple different things that's good.
And yeah being augmented is superior, but there's always going to be "naturalist" faggots.
But that's just my disagreement on that one point, everything else you said is right and we could also comment on how not only are there no returning cool characters but they killed off one people liked because muh lowest common denominator outcomes.
>>344428038
>the game is entirely designed around stealth
lol
I think it'll be pretty good.
I loved DXHR. And this is basically DXHR 2.0 with lots of cool new shit.
I know it still has takedowns but first person melee combat is really hard to do right so whatever.
>>344428038
Once you get your skills up shooting become more than viable.
I played as a rifle-focuse character and found myself even feeling overpowered.
The point is that DX, unlike HR, doesn't reward you with more or less experience based on how you play.
>>344426749
>still has Jensen because Square Enix wanted him for the sequel
>still has melee takedowns despite no melee being one of the biggest complaints
>dumbed downed HUD
I'm still looking forward to it but I'm not as enthusiastic about it as I was for HR.
>>344427762
>Shooting in DX1 was terrible too.
Once you get your first big round of augs in Hong Kong, you can go full combat if you like. Usually by endgame I'm running around 1000mph with the Dragon's Tooth sword just slicing down dudes and not giving a flying fuck if they call their friends.
>>344428635
>>344428505
meanwhile stealth is easy mode since the start of the game and doesn't depend on any augs at all
>>344428015
>>344427321
i know your fat fingers missed my post but you can still read right ?
>>344428763
stealth is never easy mode by definition you fuckwit. It requires complete spatial awareness at all times. Killing everything only requires you too shoot in the general direction of where the bullets are coming from. or in Deus Ex, with the sword, just left clicking on everything and everything with reckless abandon.
You cant be this retarded.
>>344428763
Combat is pretty easy once you have the skills and augs. It's almost like Deus Ex is an RPG where certain things are difficult at first but specialization allows you to pick a style you like and develop it. If you could just go full Cowadooty from the start of the game, there would be no sense of accomplishment or badassery when you actually are able to.
>>344427762
>Shooting in DX1 was terrible too
You can absolutely fucking decimate the game with shooting.
Even on realistic difficulty. They complement this with powerful augs
>>344427762
Yeah fuck off. The skill system meant you were terrible with weapons you had no training with but the shooting was fine with you being able to lean around corners and fire. DX1 also had far more interesting weapons and options overall.
>>344427321
if you can't resort to an actual argument apart from console games are for plebs xDDD please shut the fuck up
>>344429067
and yet stealth doesn't follow that rule
>>344428138
t. player who quit at liberty island and thought that was an accurate representation of shooting
There hasn't been a singel good Deus Ex game. Prove me wrong.
>>344429180
Read my post >>344429048
and fuck off you brain dead retard. You're objectively wrong.
>>344429309
Prove yourself right :^)
>>344429180
How many times have you played Deus Ex? How well do you know the maps and enemy placement? It's almost as if stealth will seem really easy when you know everything like the back of your hand.
>>344429318
did you even play deus ex?
guards are fucking retarded and their vision range is minimal
stealth is way easier than shooting shit up
>>344425254
for a title released in 2011 it's pretty great, but overall it's mediocre.
I hope they are just tight lipped on it, but Prague hopefully isn't the only hub
Neither
It will be Human Revolution 2. An alright game with some cool concepts in it that serves to waste my time while I wait for the actual GOTY Dishonored 2 to come out.
>>344429309
I mean the original game is rough but the ambition is commendable. The amount of flexibility you have in dealing with nearly every situation was unprecedented. That's why people remember it, not for the polish of gameplay or voice-acting.
Human Revolution, while a fine game, didn't really up the ante in this area so it's unsurprising that it still comes up short regardless of how it may have modernized other aspects.
>>344429818
>dishonored 2
>goty
Nice meme. I mean what do you even base this on? The broken gameplay of the first? You must really like whales.
>>344430009
Dishonored 1 was easily the GOTY of 2012 and better than HR.
I agree that it was too easy, but it was still fun as fuck. Looking forward to the sequel.
>>344429168
that's not even what i said. when developers make games for consoles they have limitations that they don't have on PC. this is an objective fact, so if you are denying it, then the burden of proof is on your shoulders.
Give me IW 2.0.
I enjoyed it.
>>344422485
I loved HR so I'm fine with this and it's kind of what I expect.
I had no idea Mirrors Edge 2 came out even though the first is one of my favourite games. The last Deus Ex was one favourite from last gen but I feel this might go the same way.
I've heard nothing about it. Although for Mirrors Edge I heard a lot of bad (open world, skill tree, story focus) that put me off. I have no idea if I will enjoy this and I certainly won't pay full price for a game that not once got me interested let alone excited.
The first one sure did though. And aside from the pacing issue, I enjoyed it a lot. In just not sure I'll enjoy more if it now.
I really can't say there's a game which has caught my eye though. I'm looking forward to nothing right now.
>>344430189
>>344422373
Still has the "too fucking easy, too many ways of fully accomplishing everything" problem that HR had.
>>344428196
Being augmented for Jensen is different than what life is like for others. He's the perfect specimen that integrates fully with his augments rather than having the natural biological reaction to reject them.
>>344422373
>GOTY
If Mankind Divided is anything like HR, it can easily be GOTY. The average game quality dropped sharply since 2011
Also
>tfw 2011 was 5 years ago
>>344431768
This is fair actually. To be goty it has literally only got to be passable because no other game thistear has been. Although I won't but it until it's cheap next year most likely.
Deus Ex 4 instead of HR 2 would've been cool.
>in b4 pretending the Fall counts
It just looks like more Human Revolution but with slightly more refined shit. Nothing wrong with that since HR was pretty good, would've liked to see them try to surpass the original DX though.
I also don't get how everyone seems to assume the HUD got dumbed down. Did everyone magically forget how they showed HR with the console version back in the day as well?
I played Invisible War again recently
It gave you so so many different options to do shit the game quickly became boring. Sure it was nice to be able to play it your own way, but all these abilities meant that the only challenge would be the occasional shootout and thats if you refuse to use all those fucking grenades you picked up.
Every trailer for MD shows us a fuckton of abilities and even hacking is at a distance now. I'm afraid that it will end up being IW 2.0 in the game play sense.
>>344431768
>The average game quality dropped sharply since 2011
Holy fuck, people really do just keep moving the date up for when games went to shit.
>>344422373
Some youtube faggots already went through the demo, no? How's it look?
>>344431768
This year has been pretty good so far though.HR wasn't even the game of its year.
>>344437157
Or maybe everyone just sees the drop of quality in different ways and attribute it to different dates as a result.
>>344422485
>Human Revolution
>not necessarily bad
Pick one.
>>344427017
Mediocre is overly generous. The game is trash, it has no redeeming qualities. Especially since it's a stain on the Deus Ex franchise.
>people saying HR was bad
In 2011 following the 1st chapter leak, the amount of hype on /v/ was astronomical. Deus Ex threads were a regular thing and typically reached post limit.
Following release, the only real major complaint about the game was the bossfights and the cut locations. The game was still regarded a great game here on /v/.
Going back to it now, of course it's gonna be mediocre because the graphics weren't great even back then, the 3rd person transitions when in cover were kind of jarring, and it slows down a bit midway through.
That being said, MD looks good.
>HRdrones believe that their meme game was good
Top kek
>>344439220
>revisionists
kys, /v/ never liked HR.
I think it'll be my favourite game of the year since everything else this year is shit.
Also I loved DXHR, and this looks like DXHR 2.0, which should be good.
>>344439350
Are you absolutely fucking shitting me right now?
/v/ was shitting itself over this game for month before it was released, and discussions about it followed for weeks after.
Get the fuck out of here you underaged newfag.
>>344428606
Jensen seems a bit more edgy from what I've seen.
Plus melee combat in first person is finicky even at the best of times. And usually if you're good at the game you're still just pressing a button to kill/knock out a dude. Albeit without an animation.
Also the hud looks fine.
>>344439608
Fuck off HRshill. No one believes your bullshit.
>>344427762
the opposite, headshotting people with the pistol was the easiest option as stealth was broken, the AI could easily AOE aggro you even on a stealth kill also all you have to do is run away a few seconds for the AI to lose interest, so just shoot then hide a few seconds if necessary.
Also the console cover shooter aspect of HR meant that going in guns blazing was difficult as you die very easily... you could turn yourself into a walking tank in DX, HR forces a stealthy approach
I like that they're trying to make going in guns blazing a lot more viable.
It was always fun in dxhr to use the burger menu to give you a really good big weapon and ammo and just go through on a murder spree.
>>344439793
>excusing press X to win melee combat
>hud looks fine
Maybe if you're a console degenerate with shitty tastes. Kindly consider suicide.
>>344439350
>newfag spotted
/v/ had Deus Ex threads daily back in the day. The hype behind Human Revolution was pretty insane.
Here's your (you).
Obviously bait, but fuck it for the sake of other idiot newfags actually believing this shit.
/v/ in 2011 almost entirely agreed Deus Ex 1 was an excellent game, and that HR was a great successor.
>/v/ now hates DXHR
What happened? Did reddit start liking it in the meantime?
It'll probably be better in some ways, but overall be a slightly worse experience than Human Revolution.
>>344439608
I still remember when the first chunk of the game "leaked."
It dispelled almost all negative expectations for it. /v/ was skeptical as fuck before then, and the hype train went full-throttle after.
>>344440304
Contrarians. Shitposters. The people who shat on it from day 1. Take your pick.
>>344440305
It's not hard to be better than HR considering it already looks better graphics-wise, and they constantly boast that it'll be just as deep, contain the same in-depth quests, and that bosses will be much better this time.
>>344440574
Graphicwise is definitely what I meant when I said "better in some ways". How good the quests are or how "deep" it'll be has yet to be seen. If the bosses are like the improved versions of the ones in the first game, then they'll still suck. So hopefully they realize that their bosses still need a lot of improvement.
Is anyone else worried about optimization? The devs said console ports to PC is disrespectful so I hope it works fine, denuvo aside. I only have a 2GB 770
>>344440910
The bosses in HR weren't "Their bosses"
A totally different developer made them and now they are making them in studio
>>344441003
No. I have a console.
>>344439995
melee combat in dx1 was essentially press left mouse button to win, you just had to aim it in the right place which was shit
and the hud looks fine
>degenerate
>consider suicide
your point is invalid
>>344441003
It's nixxes doing the port so it should be good for the most part
>>344440574
I think this is why I am not that excited for this one. I'm just expecting more of the same after all this time. When HR came out it still had that novel feeling to it despite being a prequel and kinda linear.
>>344441003
>A totally different developer made them and now they are making them in studio
Holy shit, this explains a lot. I never knew
>>344441304
yeah
the boss in the missing link was done in house which is why it was done a lot a better
>>344427762
The leveling system made aggressive approach pointless.
You just get mathematically less stuff for firing your gun.
Candy bar Run was made for fun and challenge in DX1.
In HR its the optimal build.
>>344441270
Are they usually good? I know they did the original, but this is a new engine
I have some worries about MD but I think I'll enjoy it as much as HR and a bit less than the original.
Dunno.
>>344441304
Yeah, it's kind of a strange thing so it's understandable people wouldn't know. The devs have said the bosses were weak and are doing it themselves now
It'll be great. Iffy side-characters if that monstrosity of a woman who will be replacing Malik is an indicator but if Jensen, Sarif and the big bad are on point then everything will be fine.
>>344441550
The port for HR was fine but it had this bizarre zoom-in bug when you ADS. It took them -awhile- to even patch it.
>>344440304
I don't hate it, I do think it got a more positive reception than was necessarily warranted (owing to low expectations) to the point that some flaws were overlooked. HR is decent, but I can't really agree with anybody who says it reaches the level of the original.
>>344440304
There's a difference between thinking a game is mediocre and hating it.
It's hilarious to see people saying HR isn't mediocre when it suffered from all of the same problems invisible war did except for universal ammo.
The game doesn't even have dynamic patrol routes for a stealth game, the AI is simplistic as fuck and won't notice when their friends go missing, and every patrol path has a blind spot.
Everything else about it is just okay, I can't think of anything about that really stands out. I still enjoyed it a lot but let's be real.
>>344424526
>I liked the game but it's far from perfect and was universally agreed to be sub-par compared to the original when it was released
not on /v/ it wasn't. It was pretty divided, but more than anything I saw a lot of threads where people laughed at the people that doubted that HR would be good. Anyone got the gif with the waffles?
>>344426749
Yeah I don't get this. Augmentation is superior and owned by the elite. COuld work if done in a revolutionary style but it doesn't seem to be the way they're going for it.
>>344423213
What the fuck, i didn't order that
>>344442196
Yeah I'm very glad other people noticed how simplistic the AI was. I fucked around with the guards expecting some MGS-tier shenanigans and realized that they are made to appear smarter than they actually are. It was really disappointing in that regard.
>>344422373
>rule63_mercy
I don't understand why developers have such a problem with making violent approaches rewarding.
For example; make a room that can only be accessed through combat. No convenient vent nearby, no hackable panel to make a door open from a safe spot, no dumb guards who are all looking in the exact wrong way that allows you to slip by. Just a room where if you want to access it, you have to fight a group of enemies and possibly also fail the stealth approach for the rest of the level.
The rewards would be combat-related things that are actually worth the trouble and not commonly available elsewhere, story related items that shed more light on important topics from a different perspective, new dialogue and potential unlocked endings due to the fight (and failing the stealth option), and probably an item or piece of knowledge that would allow you to take an easier stealth approach on another future level so that the rewards do not always create a pure snowball effect from start of the game to the end.
Christ.
It better be good, I've taken a fortnight off work to play it.
Did this for Witcher 3 and MGSV last year and did not regret either, so fingers crossed.
>>344442949
You'd be able to clear that room nonlethally no problem in OG deus ex. You just have to go beastmode with a baton or charger prod and augs while possibly baiting away enemies with sounds.
>>344439797
>Being this new
Neo-/v/ is real.
>>344442949
I hate how they made the series so stealth-focused. Playing the whole game stealth is tedious and boring. The most tense you will get is being spotted by someone at which point you will probably just run and hide so you can sneak away again.
Persona 5 will win goty
>implying Invisible War is bad
Stop.
My most anticipated game this year. Hope it's great like HR and not shitty like the first DX game or IW.
>>344443515
it's not great.
universal ammo sucks
the inventory system sucks
the main characters are shit and boring
the plot is dumb
all the factions are kinda dumb, as are the endings
also the maps are really small and loading takes too long and the game is a crappy console port
>>344441157
Even if it still sucks it's still a lot better than pressing a button to trigger a third person cinematic takedown animation.
>>344439220
Why are takedowns in MD still cinematic cutscenes?
That's my only complaint about it so far though
>>344441157
That's already far deeper than HR and completely logical. Smashing someone in the back of the head with a baton should knock someone out in one hit. If the enemy is then alerted, you can no longer easily knock them out with one hit and have to either bumrush them or fall back. In HR you just press your EPIC cinematic takedown button and chomp on energy bars.
>>344424526
>dialogue battles
Darrow accusing me of high school level morality hurt my pride for some reason. It pissed me off when I looked up the correct way to talk him down, and it was the exact same message I tried before, but with different words
>>344443781
Everything you said is based off opinion
Will probably be goat, I've just finished HR again for the first time in many years and I'm now looking forward for the new one.
Hopefully Sarif is still a big player and I can still side with him.
I liked the persuasion system, I hope it can be expanded upon so it can have more variance in how the conversation unfolds, as well as using information you discover through exploration to help with your persuasion.
>no mele weapons
>still have to watch muh cinematic takedown
And it's not just takedowns, DX barely took control from the player, there is cinematic at the begining and at the end, HR does it all the time.
This is the fundamental diffrence between the two for me, in DX you can do badass things, in HR Jensen does badass things in cutscenes while you sneak through cramped maps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7sjoH8Sqc
something like this would be a cutscene in HR.
>>344445098
Sarif isbankrupt now, son.
So, what's the canon ending? I'm guessing Sarif.I went with Taggart. No one else did.
>>344445098
Sarif has about 50 lines of dialogue apparently.
>>344445728
the ending doesn't matter since nobody listens to adam due to the ensuing chaos of the augs going crazy
It's amazing how the devs can't capture the same magic as a game that's over 10 years old with new technology
HR was okay but no area ever gave me the same sensation as the canals in Hong Kong, for example
>>344445728
None of them. All of them?
As far as I understand, Jensen blew up Panchaea, but everyone survived.You fucked up desu.
>>344422373
>Played Invisible War when it was out when I was still a stupid naive kid
>didn't like it
>play it again after reaching adulthoodand flooded with redpills
>actually like it for some reason
The fuck happened?
>>344423213
Thanks for the pizza. Not sure how your copy of this game got mixed up but lucky i found it for you! Bye now!
>>344446071
I loved it as a kid too. Still love it.
>>344445728
i also chose Taggart. Darrow's ending would have stagnated all the progress he made, Sarif's ending would ramp up protesting and violence. self destruct would leave too many questions.
>>344445863
E.Y.E feels more like original DX than HR. At least is based on the same principles, they just give you big map, some objectives and multiple ways to achieve them. In HR non-hub maps feel like just moving from point a to b.
>>344445989
>You fucked up desu.This situation ends with Bob Page creating MJ12. Taggart's Illuminati end seemed to be most fitting. I picked what I thought was most likely to lead to the events of Deus Ex
>>344445350
You sure about that? Because the only thing in there that translated into HR terms would become a cinematic would be the landing being interrupted by the Icarus Landing System.
You're right, HR wasn't the most movement-fluid game imaginable and could certainly be improved in that area, but it's not like the game is playing itself, with the caveat that takedowns WERE too damn useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBD2tcKOU4
>>344446672
>I picked what I thought was most likely to lead to the events of Deus ExThis kind of mentality is why I hate prequels in general.
https://youtu.be/aUn6cyh9-Ic?t=5m51s
Is this Anna Navarre?
>>344441003
>>344441270
>ports to PC are disrespectful
>so we're porting the game to PC
what?
>>344447163
That's less a problem of a being a prequel itself, and more of being a prequel with multiple endings.
I have this feeling deep inside that the PC version will be a trainwreck. I don't know why. I can't seem to get rid of it.
>>344448248
It's Nixxes handling the port, it'll be fine.
>>344445350
it kind of amazes me how the devs haven't removed the "cinematic takedown" since everyone here bitches about it and some eidos people browse /v/
Just watched the gameplay of it
>UI is worse than HR, markers everywhere, looking far as fuck away from a balcony you still get it lit to mark as interactible, they should only have that effect when in close range
>takedowns from cover make things even easier, while they should be fucking removed from the game
>there's an aug that knocks out 2 people from far, can be upgraded to 4 people, which makes things easier
>aug segregation theme reeks of left propaganda
It's Human Revolution 1.5
>>344448424
Why don't Eidos Montreal do the PC version themselves? Why is it even a port?
Are Nixxes designing the PC UI too?
MD screams of Invisible War syndrome
>>344439608
I didn't even like HR but /v/ loved it until they found out it was full of Reddit references.
>>344437157
I agree
Videogames went to shit in 2007
>>344448475
>far as fuck away from a balcony you still get it lit to mark as interactible, they should only have that effect when in close range
You shouldn't even be using those fucking things anyway. You can turn them off in HR.
Post best girl
>>344448791
I remember HR default had them in closer range only, more like mid range compared to the original, while in MD they seem to be active as far as 2 stories up
>>344431768
2011 was a shit year for games
>>344448914
>hair piercing
>not even deus ex games are created for pc
feels bad man
>>344448475
>aug segregation theme reeks of left propaganda
I want to go back in time and kill /pol/
>>344445728
When I played it was full techno-optimist libertarian garbage and chose sarif as a result.
Now I'm full team illuminati, Taggart here we go.
>>344448627
>Why don't Eidos Montreal do the PC version themselves?
Because Nixxes know what they're doing and have done PC ports for quite a while now.
>Why is it even a port?
Because it's easier to make things optimised for the X1/ps4 first since they're a single platform with the same hardware across the board (or at least until scorpio/neo come out)
And since 8th gen consoles are basically just specialised PCs it's easier to port.
Plus since a different company (who are decent at pc ports) is doing it, it'll be fine.
>Are Nixxes designing the PC UI too?
I'm not sure.
I think you're just trying to be overly cynical to make every new game that comes out appear to be shit in an attempt to create massive amounts of shitposting. If that's not the case, you should just stop trying to worry.
>>344448914
Is there any word on Eliza's fate? Has she been deactivated after the events of HR?
Her status as best grill pretty much guarantees she won't appear because we can't have good things anymore
>>344449279
she still run the news according to the trailers.
>>344449279
I thought I saw a glimpse of her in some of the trailers
>>344448998
Nice boogeyman, I don't like sucking hitlers cock like the people do over there. But the whole AUG APARTHEID is being hammered in your face nonstop, it's just a clear "western societies are bigoted" message.
>>344449279
She's confirmed to be in.
In one of the trailers you can hear her on the TV saying "an increase in the number of terrorist attacks highlights the danger posed by augmented citizens".
Also have the system requirements for MD been revealed yet? We're one month away from release
>>344448949
It doesn't matter how far away they activate if you just turn them off.
>>344447803
Where did all these characters come from?
Is that literally the start of the game? Is there no intro or something to bridge the gap? I wake up and I have all these new people talking to me, while Jensen pretends I know them? The fuck.
>>344449383
It's just an analogy being used to make a video game story seem more meaningful than it really is.
Not everything is propaganda.
>>344448475
>UI is worse than HR, markers everywhere, looking far as fuck away from a balcony you still get it lit to mark as interactible, they should only have that effect when in close range
you can probably disable most of that if it bothers you
>takedowns from cover make things even easier, while they should be fucking removed from the game
you don't have to use that
>there's an aug that knocks out 2 people from far, can be upgraded to 4 people, which makes things easier
you don't have to use that, also it probably wouldn't be that powerful early in the game, since the devs did mention that they were cheating slightly during the demonstration
>aug segregation theme reeks of left propaganda
>>>/pol/
>>344449458
it's a sign they're making dumb changes for the series, can you defend takedowns from cover?
The whole 3rd person shit destroys stealth because you can take a look at everything from the safety of cover, it makes any possible stealth too easy. Now you can easily dispatch people from behind cover.
>>344449720
no that's not how the game starts
there's some intro stuff, then eventually you start the "tutorial" mission in dubai.
then you get sent to prague and there's a bunch of fluff in a train station when a bomb goes off and you get injured and wake up in your apartment where the demo starts
>>344449849
>can you defend takedowns from cover?
No. That's why I didn't bring them up, Strawman-san.
>>344449395
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>>344449358
>Best Grill is still in
Excellent, all according to keikaku.
>>344442196
>The game doesn't even have dynamic patrol routes for a stealth game, the AI is simplistic as fuck and won't notice when their friends go missing, and every patrol path has a blind spot
Isn't all of this equally true for DX1? The AI is laughably bad and stealth is very shallow. I love it but I don't understand why people shit on IW and HR for things that the original was no better at.
>>344442949
MUCH more effective solution
If player uses stealth to avoid or knock down enemies:
>get more lightly armed guards
>more dogs
If he continues to win this way
>Guards auged with cammo/invisibility detection/better hearing/seeing through walls/360 degree vision
If player uses brutal firepower
>flak vests and better guns on guards
>more combat drones
If he continues to win this way
>heavy drones and cyborg superhumans
This way player is eventually forced out of his comfort zone instead of railroading him with XP
>>344449794
The game touches on political themes, you may want to ignore it, but the messages are there. The original also touched on political themes like the power of technological surveillance and how privacy is at risk.
It's a political theme being clearly shoved down the player's throat, so I don't see why it's off limits for criticism. Perhaps the official forums are more up to your safe space preferences.
>>344449795
I could just play the old game then, if the additions are shit and must be avoided to have any challenge in the game. The point is that many new things are just dumbing down a game that wasn't hard at all, it goes from UI to those takedowns.
>>344448914
Cutest and bestest
>>344449957
oh okay
what about all those augs? That "Smart vision/wallhack" shit, is that acquired by default or do you unlock it with EXP?
>>344449383
The very first announcement trailer is all about Jensen stabbing a bunch of augmented terrorists in the face because they're blowing up innocent people and trying to cause chaos and violence.
It's nowhere as cut and dry as you make it sound like, it isn't the establishment trying to round up augmented people in refugee camps because they can change their eye color.
>>344448914
looking at her now, she kinda looks like her voice actress
>>344450112
What strawman? I'm saying the changes from HR to MD are clearly making the game easier. "Just turn it off!" is not a retort when many aspects of the game are affected.
>>344450862
>not cut and dry
>train literally has a separation between augs vs non augs people
yeah, Adam is the good guy, but he lives in a racist society, the "race" is having augmentations.Just because he kills some augs doesn't write off the whole PREJUDICE hammer they're nailing the player with.
>No more pritchard
For what purpose? I don't even need him to be your radio support, I just want to hear his snark again at least once.
>Malik is canon dead
Fuck off Eidos. I saved her. You don't need her to be a major character either, JUst have her show up once.
>>344427017
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>>344422373
I don't get it. If HR was garbage then what post 2011 AAA game had the good traits that HR should have had at the lvl of quality to be considered good?
Bonus points: List any indie game that happens to fit the criteria in your opinion as well.
So, what are some essential or recommended mods I should look up if I plan on playing the original Deus Ex? I know there are a couple graphics mods floating around
>>344450692
Everything is unlocked.
In the demo they just enabled a lot of augs via the debug menu to make the demonstration more lively
>>344451476
Pritchard's in the book coming out at release and malik has been put on a bus. Most people didn't actually save her anyway.
>>344451735
kentie/dx10
gmdx
new vision is kinda rubbish
hdtp is also kinda rubbish
>>344448998
>>344449383
>>344449794
HR goes way to much into safe zones with not-racism.
It completely abandoned the idea of grand conspiracies rooted in our reality from DX.
No more government false-flags or removal of rights for security.
>>344451797
And those people are all monsters
>>344449383
The thing is, senpai: old deus ex also have that kind of discrimination, especially the second one. The thing is by then, mechanical aug is already obsolete and nano aug are even harder and more expensive to acquire than mech aug in hr. HR,MD and whatever next set the stage for it. And the "augism" shit make sense because one man have abused it for his own gain, result in the dead of millions. And the illuminati covered this up because he has a stake in their plan.
Whatever your shitty gripe is, the game head toward that already since 2011. Which in turn was implied by a 16 year old game.
>>344451921
What? HR is literally about government controlling people through their augs.
>>344452049
What discrimination is to be found in the original game? Outdated augs like Gunther and Anna were envious of JC's nanoaugs, I don't remember any prejudice parallels in the original, while it did touch on issues like invasion of privacy, how powerful a government can get, UNATCO enforcing a Police State.
HR's shtick of "get augs and you'll be controlled" was also really badly done and stupid.
Do you work at Eidos? No offense.
>>344451797
>Most people didn't actually save her anyway
When will the government stop their sinful hand
>>344422373
Wait a second those wings...
>>344452659
now I'm imagining elias toufexis doing mercy's lines
that's neat
>>344452659
WTF Eidos!?
>>344452471
Not him but there were a few convos between random people about distrusting augs and stuff. Nowhere near HR levels but enough that it made sense.
>>344452380
In OUR reality.
Augs in HR are a plot device to tell the same old story.
Augementation was not even a strong theme in DX, but they were right about most things like governments using terrorists for false flags and EU.
Real Shadow Government would try to appease both right and left to give up more freedom while simultaneously polarize both sides.
HR makes no sense because they should have enough power to legalize what they want in augs without Human Front mumbo jumbo.
Instead we get the old tale how people hate change because they are not young and hip. And here comes our hero to tell them how we should all love each other.
>>344452898
I'll be watching over you.
>>344452659
>Blizzard invented wings
wew lad
also im pretty sure that trailer and image is older than overwatch
>>344452471
the original deus ex's people with nano aug can be counted on one hand. Cyborg has existed for so long and shrinked so much in number coupled with so many crisis and development that people dont care about them anymore.
In invisible war, society was literally divided into two camps: anti and pro-aug, among other issues.
>How did you like game?
>It was alright.
>HOW FUCKING DARE YOU SAY MY GAME IS SHIT YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE YOU BETTER LOCK YOUR FUCKING DOORS
I never said it was shit.
It simply did nothing necessarily amazing, new, or well.
Holy shit you people are insecure.
>>344453082
>nowhere near HR levels
That's what annoys me in HR/MD style of games, they feel unrealistic with how people react to the conflict,I mean there are prosthetic feet, those metal strip things that replace the foot, and according to some athletes they're as good if not better than an actual foot. So we already have a metal part replacing and arguably being superior to a portion of the body, and the backlash, if we may call that, are athletic runners saying they might give people an advantage.
it just reeks of a very black and white take on the whole debacle, people aren't like that.
>>344453129
>HR makes no sense because they should have enough power to legalize what they want in augs without Human Front mumbo jumbo
They want to stay behind the scene as much as possible and successfully install their "shut down" software on all aug, but darrow abused it for his own gain instead. They dont control EVERYBODY, even in original deus ex and that always cause problem, for better or worse.
>>344453757
can't comment on Invisible War because I haven't played it yet, I remember it running like trash and I couldn't be bothered to continue
>>344452659
wtf i hate eidos now
The Illuminati are the good guys
>>344457269
t. a fruitfly
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>>344450246
I guess I just don't hold a modern game to the standard of an older game. If it suffers from the same AI problems as the first and has less content then how is it not a mediocre game?
>>344445098
They teased that Sarif's stuff is optional and they changed his awesome voice, so eh
>>344457738
>I sure hope Everett doesn't ice me.
>>344454023
It wouldn't have been jarring in HR if it didn't seem a bit like the entire world revolved around that one theme most of the time. It probably won't be as interesting as DX where each locale feels really fleshed out and like actual inhabited places but I'm hopeful there's more going on in MD from the trailers.
I wonder what the other hubs are going to be.
>>344461180
London, probably with some nice sands of arabia type music.
>>344422373
Since every other game has been mediocre this game, I suppose it will.
yay?
>>344422867
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>>344425254
You idiots DO know what mediocre means, right? It doesn't mean 'bad'. Go open up a dictionary you dumb asses.
I honestly have no idea why you're asking /v/ if this game will be good or not. Everyone here has inherited shit tastes and just became too jaded over time since being here.
Play it & enjoy it because you want to, not because of someone's opinions or experience with the game.
>>344445098
If I recall correctly, everyone died at the end.
The 'Destroy' ending is the canon one.
Kinda.
Only Jensen survived. Which I could believe, since by end game you are basically a augmented God.
All the other endings 'Truth' 'Lies' and 'Lie for your boss' are kind of rumors.
Some people think Darrow was soley responsible.
Some people think it was the Humanity First shit heads
other people think it was the Neopozine
at least thats what I heard.
>>344445753
Likely recordings or flashbacks.
>>344463052
I just want a Deus Ex thread. Can't have one if the OP doesn't have bait/something controversial.
What if Jensen is actually dead and this is all just simulation for Paul Denton?
>>344431768
2015>2011
>>344463331
Apparently there is some implications that the Dentons are clones of Jensen
>>344463787
Obviously.
Just like JC (Jesus Christ), Adam Jensen also has biblical connotations, being an obvious reference to Adam, the first man.
>>344463194
I made a Deus Ex thread yesterday or so. I mean original and not the takedown revolution ones
>>344463787
I thought his DNA was just used to help make them work better with augmentations?
Paul Denton Adventures when
Did Human Revolution have a good launch? I can't decide whether or not it's a good idea to buy Mankind Divided during the week it comes out.
>>344464159
It was alright. Most of the hype came from the press leak a few months before release.
>>344463947
I know, I was the one who posted the "MD will be irredeemable garbage" halfway through.
Can someone explain to me what Megan Reed did to Adam? Did she just found that his DNA was a special snowflake and steal it for some purpose?
Is that all?
>>344463331the post-credit scene will make you shit bricks
>>344463331
>what if
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf21Dl1vNvg
>>344465381
The post credits scene is just Page and Simons talking about their plans. Screencap this.
