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Which will be the better game?
Which will sell more?
I needed the file name to tell me what the other one was, so...
>>344413930
Honestly? Probably Zelda. The other one seems to be trying for the typical AAA stuff. It'll be farcry assassin's creed type of open world, also it's a new IP and might try too many things halfassed and feel frantic.
But they really don't seem to be related in anyway. I don't quite understand the comparison as they only have "open world" in common. Someone will very likely say horizon looks better as that's the type of game they like more. They really shouldn't be compared, you might as well make a metroid vs skyrim next.
>>344416065
Fuck you, Horizon looks great.
Horizon will be better
Zelda will sell more
>>344416117
You didn't read my post at all did you?
>>344413930
I'll probably be getting both
>>344416117
Just because someone says something else appeals to them more doesn't mean they said the other thing sucks.
>>344413930
Horizon is a new IP.
You underestimate Ninteniggers
Zelda will sell more because of the
>muh open world faze
Horizon looks great but nothing too original
Basically just farcry with robots
>>344416117
It looks pissfully generic.
>>344416186
yea at least my dad doesn't fuck me like yours does though.
>>344416318
man, when they first showed the reveal last year i was kinda excited for the game, then they showed this and it just looks bad. All that wasted potential.
>>344413930
Zelda undoubtedbly will be better.
That being said, Zelda will also sell better.
Why? Never underestimate Nintendo fans, Zelda autists, and girl """gamers""".
Will Horizon be good? Definitely! Insomniac is a wonderful developer. But they cannot match Nintendo quality. they simply don't make great games for the sake of it. they make good games for easy profit.
>>344413930
Horizon will look better. Zelda will play better. Zelda will have better mechanics and aesthetics, Horizon will most likely have a better story.
I will come down to if someone is or not a Nintendo fanboy.
>>344416503
Anon insomniac isn't making Horizon
Zelda has a decent chance to sell better. I don't think horizon looks bad but if you really think it looks better than Zelda then youhave a different opinion than me
Zelda will have a few mistakes dealing with the open world, such as there not being QUITE enough stuff in the overworld but will ultimately be the better game due to its mechanics and open-ended design. There will still be a fuckton of things to do in the overworld but there's gonna be a fair amount of travelling.
Horizon will also be good but won't sell as much and will have less to do.Unless Horizon has a beast-taming and riding mechanic I haven't seen, I don't think it'll be as fun. I want to ride those robot apatosauruses.
The Legend of Zelda will do better, simply because of brand recognition and the fact that it's been too long since there's been a new console Zelda.
I don't like both games but the tops going to sell the most.
>strong independant womyn game
>a zelda game
jeez i don't know its a really hard choice
>>344416609
You can at least tame and ride the robo-elk here >>344416318
>>344416117
>Looks great
That's all Guerrilla games are known for. All the KZ games were piss poor in the gameplay department
>>344416565
>Horizon will most likely have a better story
i feel like that's the only thing part of your post that's debatable. That really does get on an opinion sort of thing.
Who knows though, it might have a really great story.
The robot designs in Horizon are dope and the open world looks nice but the MC completely ruins it for me.
>>344416701
Hopefully that extends to the other robots, that'll make it far more fun.
Just imagine taking one of the longnecks and using its big flat head as a place to direct it from, while also looking out over the Horizon. That'd be fucking cash
>>344413930
Horizon will get praise points for female protag, the new Zelda will get points deducted for not having gender options, screencap this post.
>>344416856
That's some cinematic framerate right there.
>>344416949
>>344416856
>>344416318
Why is it that anytime someone criticizes a sony game, you always have to spam Webms of the game in the thread?
>>344416363
I'm sorry my dad fucks you.
>>344416729
Fuck you kz2 has possibly the best mp on ps3
>>344417174
You should probably help. Ask your dad right now why he's fucking young men.
>>344416941
I don't think so.
Sure people were bitching about FemLink before but when they showed the trailer and the gameplay, nobody gave a fuck about no gender selection.
>>344417164
You can spam Zelda webms like always. It's in topic.
>>344416186
>If you're a kid, you only know Zelda
Well, that's not really working against his point.
>>344416865
Pretty much this.
>encounter an enemy
>make a quip
>find a new location
>make a quip
>craft an item
>make a quip
I really miss the days of silent protagonists, because now we have these shitty ones with "personality" where they have to comment on every fucking action they do. When I saw Horizon's trailer all I thought was that the girl wouldn't shut up.
>>344417164
They get paid by Sony for every positive advertisement they do.
>>344417234
Anything can be good in multiplayer, man.
This is a single player thing.
>>344416572
oh they aren't? I thought they were. sorry about that man. Ah i just did five seconds of googling, it's guerilla games. they did killzone right? well...in that case, I don't know if I am so positive about it. but I haven't played horizon so I can't make any real judgment about it. it looks cool from trailers i've seen!
>>344416065
>The other one seems to be trying for the typical AAA stuff.
How is Zelda not doing this as well?
>>344417332
>I really miss the days of silent protagonists
Those days are gone? I'm pretty sure there was another game in OP's picture.
>>344413930
horizon by far
>>344417332
I'm not a fan of the game, but I'm pretty sure they just had a voice line every single time because it was a trailer.
>>344413930
Breath of the Wild will be the better game.
Breath of the Wild will sell more.
Quite a lot of people will prefer Horizon.
Horizon will be a good game on it own merits.
How can other games compete?
>>344417457
Nah insomniac just got done making their own little metroidvania indie game and now they're working on a Spider Man game for ps4
>>344417281
>He didn't see the neogaf and twitter rants....
I guarantee this shit will be brought by some of the "gaming press"
>>344417459
AAA games don't go for shitty artstyles, they don't have effette boygirls, they don't title themselves ZELDA, and they aren't made for children but enjoyed by adults.
Sorry bud. Zelda -- and Nintendo -- are not AAA. not at all. their budget for Zelda is, like, $10m max.
>>344417332
Then stick to Nintendo games. They're all silent and make grunts and you have to press A to proceed through dialogues instead of listening.
>>344417505
For both questions?
Quite few action adventure games sell more than Zelda.
They both look like boring open world games but I get the impression that Zelda will at least have some focus through dungeons and the like, so I'd say it'll be better.
Which sells more depends on if you're looking at first week vs lifetime and how well the NX does really. I'm sure if you compared first week Wii U sales, even for a zelda game, they'd probably fall short of Horizon just due to the lower install base. Lifetime though I'd wager Zelda wins out easily since I can't imagine Horizon will sell at all after the first few weeks while Zelda will be a mainstay seller for years to come on the NX.
Wait till they get released.
>>344417680
2008 wants it shitposting back.
>>344417164
>>344417356
Have you never been in a BOTW thread? I don't know how many times I've seen those webms of Link burning shit
>>344417675
Why would anyone WANT to see those, though?
But I get your point.
By the by, are you forced to play as a girl in Horizon?
>>344417639
I fully and honestly believe nobody would give a shit about the new Zelda if it didn't have the Zelda name on it.
>>344413930
>Which will sell more?
The thing about exclusives is that people always make a huge fucking deal out of them, but they almost never ever sell a huge amount of units, UNLESS it is on a nintendo system.
>>344417680
Who gives a shit about the budget? I play games that are fun and if I don't have fun I move on to another game. Oh wait I forgot....
>Fun
>>344413930
>new original unknown title
>Zelda
Gee, I wonder. If Horizon came with a free pornstar of your choice and shot Money out of the console when you play it, Zelda would still sell more because of nostalgiacancer and hipster retards trying to fit in.
>Which will be the better game?
Horizon
>Which will sell more?
Zelda
Nothing against Zelda, but this is Nintendo's 1st try on the "open 3d world" thing that other companies have done again and again, i doubt they will get it right with their first one, maybe the next if it's similar.
>>344417483
There's voice acting and he speaks now, did you not watch anything nintendo showed?
>>344417717
if the NX turns out to be good then zelda will sell more
>>344413930
As someone who owns both consoles, i'm generally more excited about Zelda.
The presentations i've been shown of Horizon doesn't really excite me because the protaganist just has to comment on everything (I am assuming this is just for the sake of it being a presentation and doesn't actually happen in the game) and the game itself doesn't seem to be doing anything that every other open world AAA game hasn't done already, it's good looking and has robot dinosaurs so i guess there's that, maybe it'll be a pleasant surprise
>>344416318
>>344416856
>>344416949
Oh lord, everything about this tries too hard.
I'm now convinced this game won't register as much at all in the grand scheme compared to Breath of the Wild.
>>344417938
>Why would anyone WANT to see those, though?
Just the loud idiots who don't play games. Actual Zelda fans (including girls) want Link to stay a boy.
>>344417954
>no one would care about something if it was never marketed
I guess that's true.
>>344418114
Link spoke?
No, I didn't hear that.
My interest in the game just fell by 75%.
>>344418116
I'm sure Nintendo will find a way to disappoint us when they reveal the NX
>>344418196
It obviously won't, but that's also due to the fact that BotW is a Zelda game. Even giant pieces of shit like Skyward Sword and Majora's Mask are going to be remembered on name alone.
>>344418284
He's lying, that never happened.
>>344418198
It doesn't even make sense in the first place.
Nobody's clamoring for a female Max Payne.
Or a female John Marston, to keep it open world related.
>>344418329
no doubt about it. thats the only reason why a zelda game could questionably sell less than a new IP. nintendo is that damn incompetent that anything is possible.
>>344413930
Which will be better? I dunno man, but I'm just surprised that the Gameboy Color can produce such nice colors now. Just a shame they're still so grainy, y'know?
>>344417817
>>344417871
it's not shitpostaing,it is the truth. prove me wrong. Zelda is not AAA.
>>344417989
the budget determines what kind of game it is. i believe over $10m is AAA, anything below that is 2A, anything below $5m iirc is A, and anything below $3m is indieshit.
the number of As does not determine quality of the game by any means. nor does it determine how fun it is. Zelda will be a shitload of fun and Horizon doubly so.
>>344418431
Good.
>>344418443
that's because John Marston is dead. we /JACKmarston/ now.
>>344418423
>Skyward Sword
>Majora's Mask
It's cool that you dislike both, but I hope you aren't comparing them as such.
>>344417775
The attach rate for Wii u is insanely high, much higher than the ps4s
A small install base might not mean the game will sell less. Mk8 is the best selling exclusive this gen
>>344418535
>Zelda is not AAA
This fucking delusion
>>344418535
Alright alright, you're pretty funny.
is pretending horizon looks anything special at all a meme
>>344418664
>Both the Wii U and vita sell less than expected
>Both have crazy high attach rates
Makes you think
>>344418725
Nintendo doesn't do AAA. That's been well documented and they even said the magic number for Zelda was 2 million.
>>344418803
It's getting there.
Horizon is a new IP and exclusive, and it's also not pandering to all the modern AAA checkboxes by not being a military game or having a male lead. The game has a chance of doing very well once they decide to show more of it and it comes out and actually reviews well. Guerrilla's track record isn't the best.
Zelda is part of a 30 year old franchise, got full focus at E3, got immense social media buzz, the mechanics are playing well with longtime fans, will be on two consoles at least, and on one as a release title on a device with very high chance of having Mobile Gaming capabilities.
Zelda will sell a lot of copies.
>>344418803
People are starved for decent new IPs
Wouldn't it be more effective to "hunt" the robots with a giant magnet than a compound bow?
I put "hunt" in quotes because it seems more like youre just running around killing shit. It would be cool if you could run the robots with dogs like you do deer in real life. Or if you could call in robots like turkeys. Or set decoys to lure in robots out like you do ducks. Then again, I'm sure that the devs and the people this game is supposed to appeal to have never hunted a day in their life.
>>344418803
Are people not allowed to be interested in it or something?
That is the lamest rock golem ive ever seen
>>344418725
prove me wrong, it isn't delusion, it's the truth. they even stated Paper Mario budget is extremely low so they can make a profit on the inevitably low sales. don't mistake me at all. if you can proof it wrong, do it, otherwise, you have to buy me fried chicken for lunch.
>>344418789
no I'm not funny. Zelda isn't AAA.
>>344418803
Horizon looks badass, not special. we aren't special in here. we're just hunting for good games.
>>344418851
Only really makes me think that it's the fans who very much want to play video games that buy them.
>>344416318
>slow mo
Baby casual gameplay confirmed.
>>344418895
Are you for real with that level of retardation? They said they needed to make 2 million sales to break even, and in the same paragraph stated that currently about a hundred people are working on it.
>>344418803
You misspelled Zelda.
>>344419005
It's funny that you say this, since Zelda looks to have one of the most lenient and overbearing slow-mo mechanics I've ever seen.
>>344419005
Zelda has slowmo too. Somebody should post the webm.
>>344418985
Yes, yes you are funny.
Horizon looks like it could be fun but Zelda looks more interesting to me.
Zelda will also no doubt sell more than Horizon.
its already been confirmed that Horizon will feature a story related to "Women being just as strong (if not stronger) than men". So I assume it will get 9.5 from Polygon and tumblr will cream itself over its progressive storytelling.
Might be a cool game, but I hate politics in videogames so Im not gonna touch this game.
>>344413930
Horizon looks awful honestly. The gameplay is just as watered down as zelda, but the concept if fucking stupid and the characters are ugly as ass and never shut the fuck up.
for people who are into that, Horizon probably seems great so good for them
>>344419250
please stop posting this dumb pic. nobody cares about some woman with huge breasts. pornsites exist, big whoop.
>>344419114
>They said they needed to make 2 million sales to break even, and in the same paragraph stated that currently about a hundred people are working on it.
And that's small compared to AAA games. Ubisoft had like 5 branches working on the first Watch Dogs and needed about 10 million to justify a sequel.
>>344418985
> they even stated Paper Mario budget is extremely low so they can make a profit on the inevitably low sales.
Where's the source?
>>344419379
Her boobies were kind of a big thing during the demonstration.
>>344418926
>Horizon is a new IP and exclusive, and it's also not pandering to all the modern AAA checkboxes by not being a military game or having a male lead.
BUT IT TOTALLY FUCKING DOES
>open world
>bow
>crafting
>survival
>stealth
>post apocalyptic
>hacking
>dialogue wheel
>attacking enemy bases
>tagging
>tribal setting
>horse riding
To be fair, Zelda also has a lot of these, but at least they seem to be implemented in a not-quite-so generic fashion.
>>344419431
>And that's small compared to AAA games.
No, it isn't you immense idiot.
And justifying sequels doesn't even have anything to do with it.
>>344419147
>>344419193
Yeah I saw the modern Zelda is also baby tier, that's one of the reasons I don't like modern Zelda, a toddler could beat them.
>>344416186
Damn and here I was thinking I didn't know what that game was because I have a job and life that get in the way.
>>344419476
Not him, but it was a stupid meme then and it is a trite and stupid meme now.
Also she has a big ass fivehead.
>>344413930
Horizon, larger player base
Are ps4 owners so desperate for good exclusives that they actually think horizon looks good? it's the wiiu syndrome reincarnated.
>>344419482
>but at least they seem to be implemented in a not-quite-so generic fashion.
>read as: it's not AAA pandering when Zelda does it
>>344418535
Unlike western third parties, Nindendo don't waste 10 gorillons on hookers and marketing,hell they only need 2m to make profit back.
>When conceiving the idea for a new game, about 40 concepts were pitched. Among these was Horizon Zero Dawn, which game director Mathijs de Jonge considered "the most risky" of the concepts.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/06/26/the-origins-and-world-of-horizon-zero-dawn.aspx
Seriously? In a whole fucking studio with 100+ employees, the most risky concept you could come up with was "it's like every single videogame made in the last 5 years, but with robot dinosaurs"
Can you really have your head this far up your own ass?
>>344419641
I dunno man, fucking Splatoon on the failed Wii U blew a lot of shit out of the water with it's sales.
A larger player base does help, but clearly capturing like 1/3rd of a smaller player base is still effective enough.
>>344419482
>Zelda is doing the same thing, except it doesn't count because it's Zelda
>>344419641
>sonycucks are playing anything different then fifa and weaboo trash.
Nah m8.
>>344419564
>No, it isn't you immense idiot.
Are you aware that Ubisoft boasts putting rough 1,000 people on some of their titles? Are you aware that none of Nintendo's teams have a head count that hit half of that? That alone drastically inflates their budgets and that before getting into licenses, marketing, and voice acting.
Nothing Nintendo has comes close to being AAA.
>>344413930
>Which will be the better game?
Who knows, although I am looking forward to Horizon but I reckon Zelda could be better.
Both are new or trying new things so it is still up in the air especially since Zelda is hit and miss.
I have faith in Horizon though.
>Which will sell more?
Zelda, you slap the Legend of Zelda on a piece of dog shite and it will sell well, the franchise is popular as fuck.
>>344419923
I'm not him but I think he means that bow and horse riding was always in 3D zeldas, and thus do not feel as forced
Horizon zero has no reason not to have guns, but they went with the 'woman with how' way instead.
>>344419641
>larger player base
The WiiU has some insane sales percentages. Mario Kart 8 sold 7.5 million which makes it currently the best selling exclusive of all three home consoles.
>>344419747
Two million sales to reach break-even is quite a normal number for big AAA productions.
Nintendo rarely gets that risky.
>>344419715
>>344419923
Just the fact that Zelda doesn't give you a giant questmarker on your map once you start the game should show you just how fucking different the two games are.
>>344420075
>how
I mean bow, damn it
>>344420030
What Ubisoft does doesn't dictate what AAA is.
Breath of the Wild is absolutely AAA whether you like the idea or not.
>>344420081
Isn't Final Fantasy XV's 10 million?
>>344420075
If the game had guns in it you would just shit on it for being another shooter
>>344419861
and what is your idea of risk, oh all-knowing fedora tipper?
>>344419861
Now that I think about it, it could also just be that they had an original concept at first but had to turn it into this generic open world game to actually get to make it. Could be quite sad really.
>>344418926
>it's also not pandering to all the modern AAA checkboxes
Anon plz
>>344416117
>dat defensive stance
Everyone and their mother knows BotW will blow Horizon out of the water in sales. There's a less certainty but still a high chance it will be better so take solace in that.
>>344420402
oh boy I can't wait to see how this is defended
>>344419928
But Zelda is weaboo trash.
>>344420171
>What Ubisoft does doesn't dictate what AAA is.
Yes it does because nothing Ubisoft does is unique to them. All the big publishers follow roughly the same strategy and that is what has helped define what AAA is. Nintendo and Zelda don't meet any of those benchmarks.
>>344420365
Making a game whose main mechanic isn't killing things.
Like a rhythm game or something.
>>344420325
>Final Fantasy XV
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/final-fantasy-xv-needs-10-million-sold-to-recoup-10-years-of-work
sorta, but there's also a movie coming out with it, so it that covers the cost of both it'll be fine
>>344420487
>>344420402
Not that guy but is there anything wrong with objective markers in the first place?
As long as they do not appear in the overworld it's okay in my books,
>>344416318
>inb4 it looks nothing like this at release
>>344420325
That's hardly a normal AAA production though.
>>344420402
I admit that I now feel quite stupid.
I still think it is different I just lack the ability to write down how...
>>344420661
I don't have a problem with them. I was just pointing out the dude was wrong.
>>344420402
>>344420487
Not defending Nintendo just curious. Is this something that happens when you put a marker on the map and they're calling that an objective, or are they actually doing Quest Markers as well? Like >>344420661, said I don't see much of a problem with markers as long as it isn't in the overworld, although this is strange for a Zelda game.
>>344420661
Nothing wrong with them at all, just funny seeing >>344420123 get BTFO
>>344420656
you would turn right around and whine about how Hatsune miku and theathrhythm have don it before hand. fuck outta here.
>>344420927
Ah, I see. He was dumb as fuck in the first pace
>>344420604
You don't actually know what you're talking about though.
Budgets of about $100,000,000 and needing around two million sales to break even are both completely normal in what is considered AAA priduction.
Whether you consider Nintendo's endeavors worthy of the description or not is irrelevant to whether Breath of the Wild is a AAA production.
It absolutely is.
>>344420841
I haven't played it so I'm not positive, but listening to a podcast of someone who did they said something like "When I started the demo, there was a marker on the map that lead to a shrine, and when you went there it showed you how activating the shrine would unlock more of the map. Like ass creed."
Could have been just for the demo, since all the quests were disabled.
>>344420816
>Jap game about a cute elf boy doing cute things around cute girls.
I don't even know /v/ definition of weeb anymore but I don't understand how one game can be weeaboo thrash while certain Nintendo games and souls games are somehow western games super cool not weeaboo at all yet Japanese as they come.
>>344413930
BotW. It'll be the highest selling Zelda game yet.
>>344421092
But the unlock is in terms of abilities and gear, which help you get past obstacles
Not ducking invisible walls
>>344413930
Zelda will sell better
No idea which will be better, horizon is at least something interesting
>>344421103
But that's not what the game is?
horizon will be better than the typical playstation game but i don't think it will be better than the new zelda
Zelda will sell more, because PS4 exclusives sell like shit.
>>344421103
>if it's japanese, it's weeaboo
yes anon good
if it's german it's nazi
if it's italian it's pizza pasta
if it's american it's fat
>>344421092
I figured since it was the story demo they wanted people to able to progress further.
>>344421193
yes, I think it was more of climb the tower to remove the fog of war from the map.
Zelda will obviously sell more, it's fucking Zelda.
>>344421092
Maybe, like how they only showed the plateau because they didn't want you to see anything else. It's just weird to see it in LoZ. I just hope they don't do another annoying ass companion like Fi.
>>344421103
I really fucking hate mass effect, running around baking bread and everything is all kawaii uguuu and upskirt panty shots everywhere
>>344420365
Not him but literally anything that isn't a copy paste of ideas like both of these games seem to be. Yandere Sim by an actual decent team for example would be an interesting and risky game. Or the bartending waifu shit, but with budget. Fuck anon, just look at some indie games and put a bigger team and budget and you have it. Open world with robo dinosaurs is not risky or imaginative. Not saying the games will be shit because of that, but they are clearly checking a list of current trends.
>>344421274
But it is? If it is not a weeb game than what it is.
>>344421331
According to /v/ it is, back in the day weeaboo was used by Anime fans to describe retards but now liking anything Japanese makes you a weeb here.
>>344421103
>Jap game about a cute elf boy doing cute things around cute girls
People used to call Zelda a block-and-buttan-gaem. With lame combat.
>>344413930
I'd be very surprised if Horizon outsold Zelda.
>>344421307
This is a really strange truth.
>>344421441
I'm actually pretty sure they said if you just ran off and did your own thing after a while the voice from the intro came on and was like "Hey, go to the marker!"
>>344413930
Now that's a high rez picture
>>344421507
Where did they touch you, friend?
I am assuming you got called out for being a weeaboo on /v/ sometime and are now on a personal vendetta against this entire board.
>>344421389
Nah, as far as I can tell from the gameplay stream, the tower merely shows more or the location on the map. I'm not sure if this is how fog of war works, but I doubt it.
The shrines give you new abilities and gear that you can use to access new areas, like the glider. You are not locked from visiting a location even if it is not shown on the map.
>>344416318
Can i climb those mountains in the distance?
Horizon looks like Far Cry Primal but with robot dinos. Also, the plot involves the creatures becoming corrupted by something, how original
>>344421441
>>344421648
They confirmed no companion except wolf link
>>344421389
They basically act as map downloads like Metroid Prime.
>>344421075
>Budgets of about $100,000,000 and needing around two million sales to break even are both completely normal in what is considered AAA priduction.
Maybe during 7th gen when companies were happen to get a million or two in sales but not now. Modern Warfare 2 had a budget of $250 million and that was back in 09. Destiny was estimated to be about double of that.
>>344420661
I hate them. It's a way to streamline games. You don't think about what you do. You follow a line and that's it. Some games let you remove them, but they are already designed with the makers in mind.
They are one of the worst things that AAA shit tends to have.
>>344421710
>distance
You mean those cliffs fifty yards away?
>>344421681
Pretty much because long ago no one cared if someone used an Anime image or liked a Jap game. Now if you do that you can derail a thread and people are calling for a video game board for jap games only.
>>344421478
Mass effect is a western game though.
>>344421854
It's still AAA.
That some select games are more expensive to make doesn't mean it isn't.
>>344413930
better game : prob Zelda
sell more : Horizon
Probably Zelda as it's the only game for it's console.
>>344421507
Nothing you said is true. You're not a cute elf, you don't do cute things around cute elf girls? Are you thinking of something else?
>>344416065
Liam please go
>>344420604
>and that is what has helped define what AAA is.
Are you for real? AAA was used about Ocarina of Time way back then.
>>344416459
What more did you fucking want? Please enumerate the features you would have wanted. I want to see what we could be missing out on.
>>344422042
The fact you play as a cute elf is one of the reasons this game has a huge female following.
Plus there are plenty of cute girls in the game.
>>344422275
Link isn't an elf.
>>344413930
zelda will sell way more because its zelda and everyone buys zelda because its nintendo and they used to play it as a kid and it's zelda, oh wow it's zelda! All zelda games are GOTY because look they add one more feature!!!!
>>344421935
Do you think transformers is weeb?
>>344421648
I really hope that was just for demo purposes. Oh well not going to get hyped so I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.
>>344421805
Thank fucking christ. After Fi, I would be amazed if they did the companion thing again.
>>344421681
I mean he has a point though. Calling someone a weaboo used to mean they were overly obsessed with Japanese culture and had multiple body pillows, figures, and wall scrolls. Now, for the most part, it's just a blanket term for anyone who remotely likes anything japanese. At least that's what I've been seeing across multiple boards.
>>344413930
They'll both be bad but Zelda will sell more because nintendo fanbabies are like dogs that nintendo beats with a stick, calls worthless, shoves garbage down their throats, leaves them in chains and blindfolds for months in their cage, and doesn't feed them a week at a time, but somehow in some way remain fiercely loyal, probably because they have a fetish for being mistreated.
Meanwhile Sony tries to do well even if they mess up a lot but they won't win because they don't have that masochist fetishist fanbase that nintendo does. The worst part is the nintendo fanbabies don't even fully realize they're being wronged. They are so ignorant. Remember the age old phrase:
It's OK when Nintendo does it.
>>344422385
:D !!!
>>344422385
Do you actually know anything about Zelda games?
Zelda will be the superior game
>>344422510
>tl;dr wall of salt
Who's the dev for Horizon?
Honestly, both look prettuly great. Zelda will obviously sell more of course though.
>>344422381
He is isn't called an elf but he looks like one, no one with knowledge of the series would call him an elf.
He is basically an elf but not called one.
>>344422448
According to /v/ they should be, I don't think any Japanese media is because media cannot be weeaboo only people who have some false ideas about how wonderful Japan is.
But going by the /v/ definition of weeb, transformers is a weeb show and weeb toys.
>>344413930
Horizon will either be a hit or a flop
Zelda will sell regardless
>>344422710
The Killzone guys.
>>344422708
>Reads entire post
>"I-I wanna look cool"
>"I'll write "tl;dr :)"
>>344422710
Guerrilla Games
>>344422812
well it helped me, i didn't feel like reading your entire autistic post
>>344422510
KANGZ
>>344422812
Sure, let's pretend I read it.
Both are going to be shit, fuck large open world games.
>>344422801
>>344422839
I haven't played any of their games. What the concensus on their quality of games?
Are they good at this sort of genre?
>>344422909
Hey buddy, fuck you!
>>344422134
I don't understand
>>344413930
Horizon looks like, plays like, and is shit. They showed terrible scripted gameplay with cringe plot that left a lot of people disappointed.
Where is Zelda won Nintendo E3 alone.
It's obvious Zelda will sell more.
>>344422967
The latest Killzone was fucking shit
>>344423070
>Zelda won Nintendo E3 alone
Holy shit the fanboy is radiating so strong, you're going to hurt yourself. It takes some real dedicated to be this deluded.
>>344422812
It's accurate though.
>>344422967
They know how to do shooters. But this is something quite different.
>>344413930
It's fucking Zelda. It could be the worst in the series and it would still sell like hotcakes on name alone
>>344413930
Zelda. This isn't rocket science man.
>>344423204
Well, it WAS the game the most people talked about.
I don't know what other criteria for winning E3 there are.
>>344422967
Not bad or great, just kinda generic. seems like Sony told them to make their own futuristic shooter franchise to compete with Halo or whatever. So it's good that they're stopping that shit and making something different
>>344422275
So, because you find something cute, that makes it weeb? I'm not following
Which re-imagining do you think people will prefer?
Remember that the last of us is literally the best game of all time.
>>344423204
It's not delusion. Most gaming sites and gamers in generals said Nintendo won E3 with Zelda.
I really don't want to play as a dreadlocks sporting, ginger cave girl
>>344423529
According to /v/, anything Japanese is weeb.
I think people who are retarded about Japan and Japanese things are weebs.
Media cannot be weeaboo regardless of it's native country.
I like Anime, Manga and Japanese games but I am not a weeb because Fuck Japan and the Japanese.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH-kNnq7mFM
Weebs need to watch this.
>>344423675
So you're going to play neither?
>>344423581
people? Not sure. But zelda looks better to me as not much is really different other than adding more rpg elements. The 3d zeldas already were big open fields.
the new god of war looks nothing like what made god of war popular.
>>344423758
the only person arguing that is you though, 5 other people are confused by your statement. So /v/ is disagreeing with you.
I was surprised by Horizon, didn't knew it was a zelda until this last E3's gameplay.
>>344419250
She isn't even that big. Average at best
>>344423581
I feel like this should be a better comparison. I have no idea what's with all the horizon vs zelda threads on this board. There's no similarities, At least this one is "two popular franchises going in different directions"
>>344423675
You don't understand. It's the future. There's like, bionics everywhere and shit.
>>344424050
Beta males anon.
>>344417683
Voice acting for BotW has been confirmed for NPCs by Anouma.
>>344423976
Howso? I don't see how it's anything like zelda. Reminds me more of the new tomb raider mixed with farcry or something
>>344413930
gee man, i dunno... so hard to guess...
>>344423843
ZING
>>344424236
it'll be neck and neck for sure........
>>344424219
The battle was similar to the boss battle of the new zelda.
>>344424236
and BotW will do better.
>>344424423
of course it will, it will sell better than anything on ps4 like 8:1
>>344424236
>>344424340
>Everyone owns a ps4, no one actually buys games for ps4
>no one owns a wiiu yet somehow games sell
I'm very confused actually. Who is buying these games?
>>344424514
I'll help you with this.
What age group enjoys gaming extremely much?
What age group does Nintendo target?
What age group is rarely (and if so, illegally) present on this site?
>>344424514
people who buy wii u actually fucking play games.
people who buy ps4 are tech whores who simply want whatever is the newest $600 toy
>/v/ makes jokes about buying two consoles in one gen
>meanwhile people buy like two new phones a fucking year and they usually cost even more than a new console
tech addicts who always need the newest thing
>>344422009
>That some select games are more expensive to make doesn't mean it isn't.
All AAA games. If you look at any of the top budgets games you can find, Nintendo never appears.
>>344424514
Adults like me who don't have the time or money for epics on PS4 and love the first party Wii U titles. We're just not as obsessive as PS4 owners I guess
>>344424204
Cinematic movie thrash.
>>344424647
according to studies, the largest group is 25-30 are the group that buys and plays the most video games.
nintendo targets all ages but people still think they only target kids because pokemon (a game not even owned by nintendo) is the only game nintendo makes.
Children are rarely on this site.
I understand you;re trying to say children, but that's irrelevant, no one owns a wiiu, it sold very poorly. and kids don't like nintendo games. They enjoy uncharted and call of duty.
>>344424514
Surprise, hardcore Nintendo fans like video games.
>>344413930
Why is everything a competition for /v/?
Are all of you underachievers or something?
>>344424816
I'm hoping it'll stray away from that actually. I'm expecting tons of realtime dialogue mixed in, I'll gladly switch off subtitles if they're default because fuck subtitles
>>344424724
But AAA doesn't mean top budget as such.
And even if it did, Breath of the Wild certainly is top budget compared to over 95% of games being made nowadays.
>>344413930
Zelda will be better. The only threads you even see of Horizon are asking "which will be better lol"
Zelda is exciting people, and it looks a lot better as a game. Horizon has better graphics, but Zelda has a better everything else. After watching the Zelda gameplay and gaming back to watch Horizon again Horizon's gameplay looks so boring and dull. The trees and the mountains and the foliage are all just set pieces to hide pop in for your cinematic experience where you press a button and your character performs complex moves for you.
It's funny because I was initially worried before E3 that Zelda would be this same kind of boring generic trash, but Zelda is gong back to its roots and adding so much incentive for constant exploration and the world in general looks like so much more fun to explore. The verticality and variety look unmatched.
>>344425182
Movie shit. Pressing A and reading dialogues while the character grunts and moving their lips is pure gameplay.
>>344423204
I don't even own a Nintendo console and I think Zelda won it for Nintendo.
>>344419861
Actually I was watching an interview with one of the devs and they said the team were reluctant to work on Horizon but grew to enjoy working on it so at least it's a partial labor of love.
They wanted to continue making Killzone games according to the dev and that that was next after Horizon.
>>344425073
>Are all of you underachievers or something?
Pretty sure, yes.
>>344423581
>TLOU
>best game of all time
Here's a (You)
>>344424514
>>Everyone owns a ps4, no one actually buys games for ps4
Try reading the sources from the wiki page that anon is linking.
Shit one of the sources says that uncharted sold 2.7 mil in the launch week alone. Those numbers aren't up to date.
This is why /v/ shouldnt argue saleswhen there isn't reliable information
>>344423581
>re-imagining
>implying the Link you play isn't the Link that will merge all the timelines together once again
>>344413930
Neither because they look like fucking ps1 pixel shit.
>>344413930
>Which will be the better game?
Horizon
>Which will sell more?
Zelda
I'm a Sony & Nintendo bro, and Zelda is my favorite franchise. I'm not really looking forward to Horizon.
But why do people keep saying Zelda is going to sell more, or sell a ton more? Zelda games do not sell big these days. They haven't really sold well since Ocarina of Time.
>>344426073
twilight princess is the best sold zelda game. so not sure what you're talking about.
>>344426073
Sorry, Twilight Princess.
>>344426073
It will be a launch title for a Nintendo console.
I'm pretty sure it'll sell a lot.
It's there's nothing really speaking for Horizon being poised to selling better than it.
>>344426163
see
>>344426201
Then again, that may just be because there were so many Wii's out there. When you consider the number of Wiis + Gamecube sales, against the number of N64s, it didn't sell much compared to Ocarina of Time.
>>344426201
>The last zelda game out was the last one that sold well
>Why would you think the new one would?
You can do this, I believe in you.
>>344413930
Horizon looks like the most beautiful open world i've ever seen.
However i'm fucking worry about the plot/MC and the gameplay.
It will be the next crysis.
>>344426558
Twilight Princess was 6 Zelda Games ago buddy.
>>344426498
It's why people bought a wii, a launch for a new console just like this one.
And squidward sword sold bad in comparison despite how many wii's there were.
>>344426634
>console
>next crysis
pick one
>>344426672
if ports like you're doing, then you're still wrong, it came out this year again and sold well again.
>>344426672
And Breath of the Wild is pretty much in the same position as Twilight Princess was back then.
So it's likely to sell pretty good.
>>344426672
>twilight princess
>skyward sword
>wwhd
>tp hd
uhhhhh what?
>>344426747
>What is 30 fps
>>344427010
He counts both re-releases and handheld titles. What a faggot.
>>344427010
>>344426845
Triforce Heroes, A Link Between Worlds, Skyward Sword, Spirit Tracks, Phantom Hourglass,
>>344427106
so if he's counting re-releases then he's still wrong. because that'd be twlight princess again.
>>344427169
Twilight princess came out this year nig nog
>>344427362
I'm not counting re-releases, faggot.
>>344427169
and twilight princess hd came out this year selling 6 million.
>>344427169
Sooo, five?
>>344427468
>selling 6 million.
Haha, no.
>>344427478
Yes... and that makes Twilight Princess the sixth game.
Six games ago.
>>344426672
>>344426672
>>344426672
>>344427169
so poorly made handheld titles and a waggle game that still sold decently.
Skyward sword sold pretty well considering it was bad.
>>344427574
Alright.
So when does this become relevant?
You're saying that because later Zeldas haven't sold that well, BotW isn't likely to either?
>>344427571
That's what nintendo said.
Comparatively, no Zelda game ever has sold as many copies as either 3ds versions of Mario
>>344427772
I'm just saying Zelda isn't as big of a seller as you guys think it is, I'm saying that as a fan.
>>344416145
/thread
Zelda is a baby meme game while horizon looks dope as fuck. The gameplay alone is on a whole different level.
>>344427890
Sure, but it's still likely to outsell Horizon. What with being a fully fledged console Zelda and launching alongside the NX and all.
Realistic looking, boring walking simulators like Far Cry, Skyrim and Witcher sell big, while Zelda has never hit one out of the park. It's not going to be as far off as you all think.
>>344428134
I think you need to have a special part of your brain reserved for arbitrary disdain against Zelda to believe Horizon with actually be the better game.
>>344428163
How so?
>>344428432
>comparing Farcry and Witcher
forwhatpvrpose.jpg
>>344428432
>Realistic looking, boring walking simulators like Far Cry, Skyrim and Witcher sell big
But thats exactly what the new zelda is. Well other than good looking.
>>344427793
When did they say this?
>>344428618
>How so?
What specifically do you want to know?
>>344417631
idd
Honestly had no idea what the other one was.
>>344427452
That sounds like a personal problem, faggot. HD came out this year and people bought it, you can't just ignore sales because it was a re-release.
>>344428801
The last statement. About the gameplay being on a different level. I don't really see it.
>>344418284
you can hear a female voice from time to time, but neither link nor the old dude speaks for shit
>the only system seller the WiiU has besides Sm4sh
vs
>not Zelda
Regardless of whether the new Zelda ends up absolutely mediocre or not, Nintoddlers will buy it in droves.
>>344425187
What does AAA even mean? Just jumping in here and asking
>>344413930
no I dear
I would guess that Zelda is going to be more fun thanks to a wide array of things to do and different game play elements while Horrizon is just going to feature a few different gameplay elements
I´m probably going to buy the Wii U just for this game when I get it cheap
I have zero interest in playing Horizon.
the character looks boring and the whole robo dinosaur thing is not my type of cup of tea.
overall I gotta say I agree with some of the others anon in this thread. I don´t really get why people compare those two games. they seem very different
>>344419583
There's no such thing as a hard zelda game
>>344428618
They're both mind numbing walking sims in an open world. I guess Far Cry's gameplay is a whole lot better than Witcher's sword twirling though.
>>344428982
Alright. Let's at least hope that bit of voice won't be as phoned in as Nintendo has been prone to.
>>344416941
yeah that is true
fuck the current state of the industry
>>344428945
Part of being an adult is being able to admit when you're wrong buddy. It's okay, you just made a slight error, it's not like you have six fingers, right?
>>344421103
That's we called bait Anon!!
>>344428968
Zelda consist of lame environmental puzzles that will get boring after seeing them a few times while the combat is incredible simple and the A.I. is as dumb as a rock.
Horizon for a WRPG looks to have a great combat system in place. A.I. is competent and agressive like it should be with a good variaty of attack moves and the character has enough choices to make the fights interesting.
>>344416856
I feel bored watching this already. It just has no personality. Anyone who says this will be better than Zelda is just being contrarian to be contrarian.
>>344429059
People just aren't buying Wii U games. Who knows how well the NX will do after this blunder.
Even a slam dunk like New Super Mario Bros sold like hot garbage for a Mario game on the Wii U.
>>344429062
It doesn't actually mean anything as such. It's a rather fluid term.
It started out meaning "the best games, the system sellers", then it started being used mostly about the prettiest games, and now it's more about production values and budget sizes.
Generally though, large-scale productions, with teams of 50+ and taking several years to make, produced by the big publicly traded companies, and adhering to certain amount of visual polish will be considered AAA by most.
You can't say that only the very most expensive gambles that need to fool X amount of idiots into preordering and buying collector's editions can be called AAA.
Then the term would be absolutely useless.
>>344413930
Zelda
horizon looks like that shitty tomb raider reboot, where they took all the popular shit in popular games and combined them all into one bland game
Zelda, if you include the NX version. Since it'll probably be one of the only launch titles worth getting.
>>344429568
The literal fuck are you talking about? If you watched the footage you would know the AI is insane in BotW. Enemies grabbing each other's weapons, lighting weapons you throw at them on fire to do more damage to you, stalbokoblins picking up each other's heads and arms. You really have no fucking clue what AI even is do you? Triggered animations aren't AI, anon.
>>344416318
the whole idea is stupid
hunter-gatherer humans wouldn't stand a chance against robots
>Zelda
Weeabootrash
>Horizon
Glorious WRPG
The choice is clear.
Zelda because the gameplay seems to have more things going for it
>fire system
>creating fires to generate upward wind air currents so you can use your leaf to glide
>shield surfing
>enemies throw dirt at you if they don't have weapons
>you can deflect the dirt they throw with the sword
The hippie game looks nothing special at all, use detective vision that shows the weak points, shooter gameplay with bows, awful strong womyn dialog
>>344429568
>consist of lame environmental puzzles that will get boring after seeing them a few
How would you know?
And I personally think "decent combat" has been done enough times that I'm a little more interested in how Zelda is going to layer the environmental stuff for this one.
But it's cool Anon.
They're both going to be bad.
Horizon will be more Sony cinematic experience drivel and I can see the game's mechanics becoming extremely repetitive if it's all revolved around hunting and exploring.
Zelda will have extremely glaring flaws going against it, like all other previous Zelda games within the last 10 years have had. No difficulty, horrible pacing, empty overworld, etc.
>>344429885
>Predertimend running to fire and some other shit
>Impressive
The A.I. is trash for actual combat. They even run past link to light their weapons up.
>>344418926
>>344416318
New IP means nothing. Watch Dogs was a new Ip and it was full of stupid trends of modern games, Press X """"""""""gameplay"""""""". You can make a very boring new IP that doesn't do anything different than what's out there, and it will still be shit.
>>344429802
Maybe they'll have a proper Mario ready as well, but yeah, that'd be about it.
Something lame from Ubisoft is guaranteed.
>>344430001
Cause there can be just so many system in place. There will be some variety with the systems maybe even combinations but its nothing special and will not hold my interest for long.
For example that one part where blows up a miny dungeon with some fire that was send over because of strong wind. I would rather go in there myself and fight them but the combat system is lame too. I believe they even showed way too much of the game at this point.
>>344430037
>Zelda gameplay so far shows several monsters leave Link with half a heart after one hit and others can kill him with one hit
>Frozen water instantly kills you
>No difficulty
Nice try Sonyfaggot
>>344429992
M8 all that technology for Zelda doesn't mean much without a coherent objective or story.
Remember MGSV? It was the most forgettable MGS for that exact reason.
>>344430660
I'm pretty sure they deliberately didn't show how far it all goes.
Because they never do. It just isn't their style.
If what they showed at E3 really is all there is to it, I wouldn't be very interested either. But I think they've got more. And certainly in the "temples" they're likely to go crazy with it.
>>344429885
The AI of an enemy won't matter if all of the reaction times are fucking dogshit.
Kicking skulls over heads will only be fun for so long. Meanwhile, even common enemies in Soulsborne games can be entertaining for example, because they can actually fucking hit you.
>>344413930
Zelda will be the better game, Horizon its's another run of the mill openworld TPS.
As for sales I think that will depend on the reception of the NX, if it's positive it will take advantage of the launch hype much like Twilight Princess.
>>344431268
>Meanwhile, even common enemies in Soulsborne games
I thought we were talkinga bout Zelda and Horizon here.
PlayStation owner here. I see no reason to get Horizon.
I don't have a Nintendo, but Zelda will probably do better at least in terms of reviews. Horizon doesn't seem to have a lot of hype around it, but I liked the Killzone games and rpg's so I'll give it a shot probably
>>344431234
>coherent story
I play games for the gameplay, if the story is good great if not the gameplay can carry a title no problem. The vast majority of games have an average story for any real standards anyway.
I haven't played MGSV but MGS is a quasi movie series with hours and hours of cutscenes in every title.
>>344429062
>What does AAA even mean?
High budget. The gaming equivalent of a blockbuster movie.
>>344431192
Try watching gameplay footage coming from a competent player - not some shit game journalist or Treehouse faggot trying to make the game look good. People take down Steppe Talus with relative ease. Granted, it's the tutorial area so maybe we'll encounter actually difficult enemies as we progress through the game. But I doubt it, this is neo-Nintendo after all.
>Frozen water instantly kills you
This on the other hand is the only good thing going for it when it comes to difficulty.
Also amusing that you immediately assume I'm a Sonypony despite me outright dissing Horizon. I'm actually an idort instead.
>>344429062
>doesn't even know what AAA means
So how normie or newfag are you to 4chan or video games in general, exactly?
I'm getting a PSASBR vibe from Horizon (just another hyped up shitty Sony game) These same (which will sell better PSASBR or Smash) threads popped up on 4chan when PSASBR was announced.
>>344428496
Just my opinion man, im sure Zelda will be pretty good, just think Horizon is more interesting. Im even prob buying a cheap Wii U or a NX(if its good) for Zelda if you feel that im not cocksucking stupid nintendo and Zelda enough.
>>344430251
>predetermined
I think you're confused, the impressive part is that it's not predetermined.
>>344431268
Again, you haven't even watched have you? It's easy to get hit in BotW. People were dying constantly in the demo. Bokoblins will throw rocks, their weapons, bombs, etc, and they do significant damage too, especially the blue ones. This is the tutorial area of the game, and people are already dying. If you watched the Horizon demo they don't even take damage. In The Know's demo and Polygon's at no point in time was Aloy in any danger.
Also, I hope you faggots like your main character talking the whole time with Uncharted-style banter that never ends. Modern AAA Sony games are made for ADHD preteens that base their opinion of a game on "woaaah it looks like a movie!!!"
I'm happy though. After what I saw at E3 I'm beyond confident BotW will be absolutely fantastic.
>>344431887
He's asking because a longer deciphering of the term had been going on.
Some dude was arguing that Breath of the Wild wasn't AAA because Call of Duty costs more to make.
>>344431349
>In that case, Horizon is also competent in this regard because the enemies actually fucking hit you.
That's not the case in BoTW so far. Reaction time from enemies is slow as shit, especially with Bokoblins - who just stand around waiting for Link to make a first hit.
The only seemingly formidable enemy from that gameplay demo so far are the guardians.
>>344432108
You're cocksucking it well enough, anon.
I'm just surprised people think Horizon looks particularly interesting.
>>344432130
>I think you're confused, the impressive part is that it's not predetermined.
So they wont run up to fire to light up their weapons every time?
>>344413930
I would be interested in Horizon if you could play as a guy, but you cant so i'm not. She looks completely plain and forgettable as well, i dont know why they act like she will be remembered as this unique gaming icon or even the game for that matter. Already offering collectors editions as if it will go on to be the next big Sony cashcow.
>>344432197
Actual lies. You're purposely deluding yourself out of allegiance to a consumer electronics company.
>>344432269
Nope. They will or won't based on the current situation, and whether the weapon can be lit on fire or not.
>>344432268
I dont know maybe because it fells a little diferent than le normie games at least lore wise. Im trying to buy more 'trying something diferent' games these days aside from games that will be good like Zelda or DS.
>>344432130
Actually I've watched tons of footage for BoTW. I'm a big Zelda fan, but even I can recognize that there are already several major flaws going for it and one such flaw is indeed the shit reaction times of enemies while in combat.
I've seen videos of several competent players take down Talus and the immobile gaurdian with no less than half a heart lost, maybe one heart total - all due to the slow, slow reaction times of the enemies. Do I really have to dig through youtube to find this evidence for you?
>>344431771
There is footage showing Link dying from falling from some relativelly small height. Some of the guardians can kill you with one attack, no other early enemies in 3D Zelda can do this, explosion damage can be quite lethal and this is only the beginning of the game. This Zelda it's definitely far less forviging and if you combine this with the hopefully hero mode I think it's safe to say that this Zelda will offer challenge.
>>344432650
It's a good approach.
I wouldn't have played The Witness if the idea of a beautiful world where all you do is solve mazes on touch-screens didn't seem wonderfully eccentric to me, but it's my favorite game this year so far.
Horizon might pay off.
>>344429091
Go play the original two, tell me that there hasn't been a huge casaulization of the series and the difficulty.
But I will say that 2 is definitely a hard game.
>>344432197
Check out some more vids of people playing the game tho.
>>344432910
The Witness such i fucking masterpiece, i remember when i found the cinema puzzle like location. Too bad my pc decided to find Jesus while i was playing it. Didnt had time to go back to it.
>>344432743
>I'm a big Zelda fan
Sure, anon. I'm sure you totally are. By the way, no one has killed the guardian. And while a few players have managed to beat Steppe Talus, they had to prepare to do it with the right equiptment, and plenty of players also died to him. He doesn't look that hard, but he's killed players which is a step in the right direction after Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess. You're hating on the game because of an optional tutorial boss and falseflagging AND spreading misinformation all at once.
The combat actually looks good, and it's actually you performing it.
>>344432893
I suppose I can forgive the enemies on the plateau for having shit combat reaction times since it is the tutorial location, but if we get more footage of Link playing in different areas of the overworld, or in a dungeon and it's still the same shit, then I'll start to worry.
Actually, I really hope we get footage of an actual boss the next time we see the game. Not an overworld boss or mini-boss like Talus or the guardians, but an actual dungeon boss. I'm curious to see how they'll handle AI and reaction times for something like that.
>>344433016
2 was also dogshit
>>344433335
>By the way, no one has killed the guardian.
People have killed the immobile guardian embedded halfway into the ground. That's the guardian I'm talking about. Not the one you have to fight on horseback.
>>344432098
You might be getting that vibe if you're a moron. The two cases, developmentally wise, creative-wise, aren't anything alike.
Saw footage of Horizon and was pretty disappointwd at no melee weapons and constant commenting by the protag about everything.
There's supposed to be a guy option right?
zelda zelda zelda
horizon is shit
>>344433516
I would disagree, I enjoyed it but back on point would you consider it challenging, much more so than any modern Zelda?
I think anyone would agree with that, not even going to mention the obnoxious, patronizing hand holding.
>>344433967
>There's supposed to be a guy option right?
no you sexist shitlord
>>344416949
So... they can make a gigantic mechanized T-rex, but they can't make the rockets, lazers and bullets lock on to a single obvious slow target.
wow.
I'm impressed
>>344417954
Yeah, that feeling of sinking despair is just part of your humanity fading.
You'll get used to it.
The robots in Horizon look like something off of a GPU box. Either that or they were designed by Alienware.
>horizon
>good
neogaf get out
>>344417639
I really think the NX will do quite well purely because of Zelda. I have two friends who say they'll get an NX if Zelda is a launch title.
>>344434346
her walking animation looks like it belongs to a guy, she sways her hands as if she's really heavy
>>344433591
That's the one I'm talking about, no one managed to kill it. The one in the plateau.
>>344435291
Could be that they're using the same animations for male NPCs that you find fighting or some shit.
or because she's a strong woman who needs no man
>>344435291
Women can't be strong too? It's 2016, anon.
>>344435291
It looks like it would be really easy to make a male option. Everything about her animations and even personality is completely devoid of femininity. Like you could copy paste a guy's face and hair onto the model and it'd be fine.
>>344435441
I've seen two players kill it IIRC.
So basically humanity immediatly focused on building robots in the image of animals instead of civilization beyond villages, and the robots uprised?
Also holy shit the actors are bored, mo caps and voices aren't convincing at all and have no attempt at being expressive. I'd sooner belive the dubbed Resident Evil 1 characters if they told me about their lives than that Horizon chick and those 2 NPCs.
after shadowfall you have to be seriously brain damaged to think horizon will be good
I want soniggers to leave
>>344417234
>MP on console
>MP on ps3
well memed my friend
>>344419379
>nobody cares about some woman with huge breasts
You weren't around during E3 I take it. Literally everyone cared about this woman and her huge breasts.
>>344436831
>look it up
>Killzone game
They made an open world campaign for a multiplayer based shooter franchise?
>>344428163
horizon gameplay looks really bad, what are you on about?
Horizon is a shit game made by a shit dev and sonyggers dont buy games in the first place.
Is this is a serious question?
>>344413930
Zelda, and Zelda
>>344421103
just because it's japanese doesn't mean it's weeb anon. I don't know if you're stupid or a retarded troll
>>344417631
This.
Why is everyone trying to compare these games?
It makes no sense. I've never seen anyone compare Mario to Ratchet and Clank before and say "which one will be better?" because it doesn't make any sense
>>344438323
right? ratchet and clank is shit and mario isnt
Are you guys trying to prove yourself better than someone else depending on how something you like and you had nothing to do with does in the market? whew.
>>344436554
then you remember wrong.
>>344416729
I agree, but careful now you might startle up the horde
new ip? shit shit shit sjw! female protag cinematic cinematic!
30th zelda now with open world shit we've seen millions of time. literally the greatest game of all time. nintendo won nintendo WON!
I don't know which one will be better but anyone who doesn't think Zelda will sell more is delusional.
>mfw seeing sonyfriends explode at every post that doesn't suck horizon's dick
Enough of the open world with shitty craft system meme
>>344438561
what? no they're both fun and would be stupid to compare them
>>344436554
Yeah, you definitely didn't.
They'll both be fun games that excel at different things and are ultimately both legitimate and fun experiences.
>>344440675
> zelda now with open world shit we've seen millions of time
you mean like MGSV , it's not about what was done before more about this game being a good if it mixed those mechanics in the right way it could be amazing but hopefully it wont be a repeat of what happened with Metal Gear V.
>>344416318
I wish they went with an art style like this for Zelda.
I liked Skyward Sword's water painted look but Breath of the Wild is too much. The colours look sickly to me. I don't mind cel shading, but at least do something creative with it like SS.
>>344441667
There is a difference between Zelda and MGS. Zelda started as open world exploration, MG(S) didn't.
People tend to forget that when shit-talking Zelda.
>>344413930
Horizon will sell more
No one will be able to buy Zelda because no one will own their shit gimmick console so it doesn't matter how good the game is
>>344440835
>implying anybody is going to buy an NX for one game
>>344442173
You do realize people already own the Wii U right?
>>344442272
it worked fine for twilight princess
>>344442272
>implying anybody will buy a PS3/PS4 for one game
>implying anybody will buy a 360/One for one game
This is how retarded you fucking sound.
>>344419473
>that filename
kek
>>344442465
The difference is Nintendo won't have any more games until the next Zelda comes out
>>344442173
Not only are you an inbred retard, you also got BTFO before you even made your pathetic little shitpost.
Not that anyone expected anything from a sad sonygger like you :^)
>>344442351
You do realize the game is not coming out on Wii U right?
>>344442810
Just like most of their consoles.
>>344442272
Lots of people have already bought a PS4 for one game.
>>344442351
literally nobody has a wii u
>>344442810
And?
>>344442924
Anon it's coming out for Wii U and NX, it's just like Twilight Princess was. Keep the fuck up. Fuck they were fucking playing it on a Wii U at E3 for God's sake.
>>344442924
[citation needed]
>>344442272
>>344442465
Reminder that people bought a PS4 to play Bloodborne.
>>344442887
D O A
you can go back to talking to your amiibos
>>344442962
You're an idiot.
>>344442954
because that one game (BB I assume) is really fucking good and unique. BOTW doesn't look all that great. Zelda games are just meh now desu
>>344413930
Horizon will be the better game but Nintendo shills will down vote it
>>344443117
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>344443117
>More people want No Man's Sky
That's hilarious, at least use a game that isn't a joke. Fuck I even own a PS4 and that game is nothing more than a comedic joke.
>>344443117
Zelda hasn't been relevant or a system-seller since TP.
SS was so bad it effectively semi-killed the series.
BoTW is its last chance.
>>344443239
>really fucking good and unique
It's exactly the fucking same as the previous Souls games.
>>344443245
Nintendrones and PCucks both will.
Xbots are the only ones who are chill enough not to care.
>>344416941
Only for Polygon and Kotaku
>>344443546
BotW will be fine, did you see the reaction it got at E3? Biggest reaction for something at E3 since the Wii was first shown like 10-11 years ago.
>>344413930
The apparently very restrictive demo Horizon had available at E3 leaves me somewhat worried.
I really hope the entire game isn't just riding from village to village or settlement to settlement while avoiding/fighting robo creatures to scavenge goods.
Do you think it will have dungeons of some kind or something to make it more interesting?
>>344443245
Just because you have a ps4 you don't need to pretend you care about that garbo Horizon game. The platform has a couple of decent games coming up. No need to act like this is one of them to justify your purchase.
I think Horizon looks great.
Don't care much for the dialogue wheel, but all in all it looks promising.
I see where the comparisons are coming from but I think these two games should be viewed separately on their own merits. But who am I kidding? This is /v/ and the cocksucking Nintendrones will not be silenced because "much Zelda."
Also Nintendo didn't win E3. Not even close...
>guerilla games
Fucking please, Zelda will easily be the better game,
>>344444080
Because it's the Zelda dream game that so many have been asking for since 2006-2007. An open-world Zelda game that's a return to its roots.
The question is - will it live up to even half of those dreams and expectations after the abomination that was SS? Only time will tell.
>>344444920
>Make a reasonable point
>Tint the entire post with butthurt at the end
Why is this a competition to you people? Shouldn't you hope that both games will be good?
Last Guardian and God of War
ps4 games have horrible attach rate
i don't think i've seen anyone talk about the ps4 game in question outside of e3
it's not even noteworthy enough to say "it's the title with the least attention i've ever seen", because i'm not paying attention to it enough for that
>>344443641
>Xbots
are there even any Xbots left
sure RDR is BC but it took them 7 years to get a game thats worth playing
>>344445162
Just doing the Devil's work
>>344444920
Nintendo didn't win E3, but they won best game of the show.
>>344445176
>Shouldn't you hope that both games will be good?
Yes, but my gut tells me both games will end up being shit.
>>344445217
>Zelda didn't even make the top 5 pre orders
>>344443117
See pic in this post
>>344437862
most wanted doesnt mean anything coming from sonyggers
>>344445176
This is literally sony's internet marketing tactic for the game, expect to see it ramp up as they hire more shills
Only a fucking moron would watch the game's respective e3 trailers and compare them as the same game.
>>344445414
>sales suddenly matters
>>344413930
>which will be better
almost certainly horizon, and horizon will be mediocre
>which will sell more
obviously zelda.
Which do you think is better /v/?
>>344445406
That'll change once the game approaches its release date.
>>344445406
Because what's the point of pre-ordering it right now did they announce a special snowflake bundle?
>>344445929
MC in Horizon is really ugly, Arrow effects seem lackluster, draw distance is garbage, and the weird arrows with ropes meant to hold a robot animal (which is already a retarded idea) down look pretty dumb/scripted.
Nintendo isn't fucking around with this Zelda though. Aside from performance, it looks really great for a WiiU title.
>>344445682
>sales only matter when its about PS4 console sales
>despite the fact that console sales arent profitable and as such, irrelevant
>Nintendo constantly dominates the top 10 sales charts
>Sony can only dream of game sales that Nintendo enjoys.
>>344422204
Quit being a faggot Sony shill. The game looks mediocre as fuck.
>>344447160
>with ropes meant to hold a robot animal (which is already a retarded idea)
Killing robots with arrows alone is a retarded idea.
Better yet, how the societies in Horizon have managed to go on living with just bows and arrows and haven't learned jack shit from scavenging robot parts for hundreds of years is beyond stupid.
>>344413930
An actual game
vs
Social agenda "game"
oh my the sony shills in this thread. stop trying to pretend to be enlightened by saying they will both be good, that's a joke.
>>344444449
that almost get
>>344413930
they both looks fun but Zelda will sell way more.
>>344416318
delicious
