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>>344408976
Bow & Goombella are best partners.
Who looking forward to Color Splash here?
I think it needs this direction, I hope there's Amiibo that unlock funny easter eggs like extra partners
>>344411192
>partners
Anon...
>>344411323
You know what I mean, little stickers to solve puzzles and stuff.
Like a giant cheese to feed a mouse :D
>>344411192
Looks okay on its own, at least.
Some of the new features look like they'll make the game actually fun (and battles worthwhile) this time.
No one will care because it's not like the first two.Was Bowser confirmed as the villain?
>>344408976
>that image
>nazi SS officer visiting a Jewish house
>>344408976
Press F to pay respect.
F
Easiest game I've ever played.
PAPER MARIO IS DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD
>>344411745
>He hasn't play Super Paper Mario
>>344411192
no one, cody
just post your fucking glittery bowser and go away
>>344412018I don't think that one is him, Anon. Him mentioning extra partners kind of gives it away.
>>344411482
From the bowser tape everywhere and koopakids, it is pretty much confirmed even if the developers try to hide it.
Unless there IS actually a new villain, but why would they hide it then since it would make people interested in the game then?
>>344411704
>>344412018
sorry, but just because the vocal majority is against paper mario doesn't mean it will stay that way forever, I'm just learning to fit in with the new crowd, the crowd that plays Mario Maker and Splatoon. The crowd that started gaming yesterday. That's the majority of /v/, so either you're with me or not. But there's no in-between. Makes me wonder why you even play videogames?
>>344412595
But anon I play mario maker and splatoon and I don't like new paper mario.
>>344412291
Plot twist, Huey is threatened to trick Mario to collect all the Paint Stars to make the true villain (or probably Bowser) all powerful. During our adventure we bond with him & he sacrifices himself(and doesn't come back like Kersti did)to make Mario all power making us cry like Tabata says we're all do.Highly doubtful anything like that (as simple as it may sound) will happen.
>>344412736
You're just trying to fit in then, if you're an adult there's no way of you actually liking those two excuses for games.
I'm sorry, that's just all there is to it. Because Splatoon and Mario Maker take the same direction the Paper Mario games are.
>>344413257
Maybe it's just because I actually like playing games unlike most of /v/.
That said, paper mario was my favorite game in my childhood, and TTYD was the main reason why I got a gamecube.
To see these games die and become what they are is still painful to me. Sure it was baby's first RPG, but it was still a great experience back then for me. TTYD expanded on that.
Super was alright. Beat it in a day or two. Story was good but gameplay was meh.
I bought sticker star at launch mislead by the beta screens with the chain chomp partner and other stuff. I admit it was an ok experience, but compared to the other games it was really weak.
>partners will never ever come back
>>344411482
>Was Bowser confirmed as the villain?
They're trying to keep it a "mystery" even though it's fucking obvious.
>>344413257
>anime reaction images
you're as bad as tripfags were
>>344409875
Man TTYD had such beautiful text boxes/balloons. I know that's weirdly specific, but it always jumped out to me.
>>344413521
>The 2010 prototype will never leak
>You will never get to experience the Chain Chomp
>You will never fight King Mole
>You will never venture through the Card Area
It probably would've been weak as hell to begin with even if it was completed like this but I'm so desperate to play this.
>>344408976
The idea of Goombario/Goombella was just genius. A partner that will tell you about every location and NPC in the game. Its like a lore wet dream.
>>344413770
>This hole was made for me.jpg
>>344413731
Even if it was looking similar, something about the beta had a charm the old PM games had.
Maybe it's the battle arena. Maybe it is the art style of the battle backgrounds. But it is better than what sticker star ended up being.
Also pokeys weren't NSMB yet, which means it still had a bit of originality.
The "yoshi hide and seek" part of the 64 game was hell. Annoying enemies, annoying layout.
>>344413731
When will this meme end? Sticker shit was clearly already implemented, and the Chain Chomp was a temporary partner you could get through special stickers, hence the lack of unique detail on it.
>>344411192
Sorry, its on the Order of Miyamoto. All Mario plots have to be paper-thin
>>344414171
I agree it does look better, I still feel it'd be weak altogether though. Also if they kept going forth with the original direction of the game I have a feeling the enemy designs would've (sadly) changed eventually anyways.Shit, I gotta add that Pokey image to that beta chart.
>>344414343
Funny Anon, they mentioned partners were fully implemented early in development & stickers were originally just meant for puzzles here & there. Over time they had more & more focus on the stickers including it in the battles (as we see there) and eventually dropped the partners & exp aspects (essentially starting from scratch) to put full focus on the sticker mechanic. Also I mentioned how it would be weak to begin with, it still looked better than what we got though.
>Chain Chomp was a temporary partner you could get through special stickers, hence the lack of unique detail on it.
You baiting? Because it lacks detail probably since it's still a prototype, you can even find beta designs for Bobbery, Vivian & even Mario in TTYD just showing how much a partner/character can change design.
>>344415180
I remember seeing bobbery, but I never saw the other beta designs besides scrapped enemies and that huge machine thing. Any sources?
>>344414608
Tanabe, you meant.
is there any character, ANY. CHARACTER. that can beat Paper Mario?
>>344416010
https://tcrf.net/Paper_Mario_The_Thousand_Year_Door
https://tcrf.net/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door/Early_Graphics
They dug up new stuff. Vivian isn't changed much but she has a little flame on her head. Mario & a Koopa were in a different disgusting art style.
TTYD had too much backtracking and too many points where it halted your progress and made you do something else first.
>>344416465
nope, sorry. try again
>>344416602
Kills me every time I try to replay it. 10/10 writing will never, ever be able to compensate for a complete lack of actual gameplay.
>>344413521
>true scotsman fallacy
>>344413630
>ad hominem
>>344414608
I agree, I wish Mario Maker wasn't such a letdown. Worse is the people defending games like MM and Splatoon, if you even want to call a watered down level editor with meme-humor a 'game'
>>344413702
>but it always jumped out to me.
that's because of the drop shadow
>>344416257
>inb4 b-but paper mario includes his friends!
Paper Mario emulation when?
>>344416602
General White wasnt so bad once you've done it once, It was the actual first chase that was annoying, If you wanna talk REALLY annoying backtracking its the entire Doopliss chapter.
>>344416602
Chapter 7 was the only part that was actually bad.
>>344416602
It's the weakest part of the game most can agree on. I personally didn't mind it except for Chapter 4, a little bit of Chapter 5 & General White.
>>344417006
His Super & Ultra Hammer can get him through it. Plus if 10 other enemies can beat them Mario could surely one way or another.
>>344417089
Don't you mean hacking?
It's in the works. Hopefully by the end of the year we can make our own hacks of PM64.
>>344416257
Tanabe
>>344413630
>>344413521
Don't bother replying to that guy. He's just baiting, and that's not because he's using anime reaction images.
>>344416257
And I'm not talking about regular paper mario. I'm talking about Danger Mario fully powered up with a fuckton of Danger running through his paper veins.
Fuck that shit I raped the Shadow Queen in a matter of minutes.
>>344417293
>minutes
>not seconds
>>344417006
good answer, but wrong. sorry anon.
>>344417239
bingo bango congrats
>>344417128
>Enemies give no star points so there's no point in fighting anything aside from Atomic boo and Doopliss
>The tiny area with the two dayzees where you will ALWAYS fight atleast one of them
The entire chapter wastes your god damn time.
Would you buy amiibos ofpartners from 64, TTYD and Super, /v/?
>>344417128
I didn't think Twilight Town was so bad since it was short.
Boggly Woods was way worse.
>>344417501
>>Enemies give no star points so there's no point in fighting anything aside from Atomic boo and Doopliss
They give Star Points still, you must've been over leveled at that point.
>>The tiny area with the two dayzees where you will ALWAYS fight atleast one of them
Yeah, fuck that shit though.
The entire chapter had so much potential to be great. After you got Vivian a new path should've opened up after you went back to the beginning of the forest or something. Like that well is there, maybe it should've been expanded from the beginning of Twilight Trail or the forest.
>>344417819
A tunnel connecting the wells of twilight town and creepy stepple that you need vivian to get through would make that chapter much better.
Unfortunately it seems the game was rushed in the end so they padded a few chapters. Still a great game though.
>>344417805
But the only area you might've needed to backtrack to was to remember the code for the 4 pillars, Otherwise that chapter was very straight forward.
Anyone else watch the new HyperCharge video about TTYD?
>>344417721
You're making me picture a scenario where nintendo releases amiibo of classic partners, but and lets you scan them into Color Splash
This would just make me really angry, because you can't fix a bad game by cashing in on nostalgia for the good ones.
>>344417996
Anon there are no wells in twilight town.
>>344417721
>implying Nintendo will ever acknowledge the old games exist
>>344418164
He's saying they could've added one. Creepy Steeple has a well in front of the gate after all. Making a new interconnected way that experiments with your new partner would've been great.
>>344408976
Throwing this out here, but anyone got the url for the blog of the guy that's working on that Paper Bug game ? Looked fucking amazing
>>344418695
Here you go:
http://paperbugdev.tumblr.com/
https://twitter.com/paperbugdev
>>344418695
it's pretty easy to remember. You practically said the whole thing, just missing one word
paperbugdev.tumblr.com
>>344417128
Don't forget the jungle part in Chapter 5.
You had to go through it seven times in a row (five if you had the foresight/luck to pick up a coconut beforehand). And, once you beat the chapter and you're back at the hub world, you have to go back to the island and into the jungle AGAIN to find Francine and Francesa so you can start the next chapter.
>>344418305
This is getting to be a problem, I married Goombella after all and haven't really been to see her in over a decade.
I mean, it's not like I worry that she wouldn't be faithful. It's just that sometimes I wonder if I'll be allowed to return to Rogueport ever again.
>>344418125
link to video please
>>344418305
In SSB4, there's a trophys of Goombella and Mini-Yoshi from TTYD, Tippi and some related characters form Super, and there's even a trophy of little pigs from 64.
They do know about the old games, it's just that Tanabe for some reason wants to reinvent Paper Mario.
>>344413702
Nigga I know exactly what you mean
The visual design was A+++++ in TTYD
>>344418852
I hope you make more unique looking speech bubbles instead of those boring squares that's currently in. I mean, I assume it's like that 'cause it's early, but that was part of the charm of Paper Mario.
>>344418125
Surprised anyone even knows about that guy.
>>344418979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rxNACkeGw0
>>344419320
I'm not him, I was just linking it for you. He's in these threads a lot though so he may come by if we're lucky.
Man, I love the watercolor backgrounds in 64.
>>344418979
It's a smaller channel but a few of his older videos were pretty big here. I don't want to shill out with a link so just look it up, there's a video on his channel that just came out today.
>>344419320
>>344419427
I am here.
Also everything is a placeholder, I will redraw/remodel everything once the mechanics are down. I know the text box looks like shit but I will still design some new ones and multiple types as well.
>>344419427
oh ok, I assumed it was him because of the webm.
>Koops' dad got tricked by hooktail
>he was probably a footfag
Not even a furry or anything close to it but Koopie Koo caused impure thoughts
Why is PM64 the best game of all time?
>tfw no hardmode romhacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4FGwguIPA
Who is ready for a wave of absolutely dogshit paper mario romhacks and a few good ones?
>>344419838
How do you even survive a decade in a dragon's stomach? Did he just eat whatever half digested shit the dragon ate? Where did he go to the bathroom?
>>344419448
They were really one of a kind, the first Paper Mario was so comfy
>>344419774
Oh dang, I didn't know everything was a placeholder. To be honest I thought these were gonna be the full game's graphics. I think it looks good enough as it is for that, with only the text boxes so far not being part of the game's style. (My favorite thing is the vines holding up the battle options).
But yeah, having functional graphics as you work on the mechanics first is important, so that's good to hear you're doing that. Can't wait for this game anon.
>>344414190
At least it didn't involve backtracking like every other fucking chapter of TTYD.
>>344420241
You are now aware that he had to be inside of her whenever she masturbated.
>>344420187
See >>344420232
The maker of Star Rod is bundling a hardmode romhack with extra bosses, a new way to play the game (no levelups, but you can equip 64 badges for free), double damage, etc. as an example.
>>344420441
>no levelups
The rest sounds good but what's the incentive to fight then?
>>344420441
Progress on Star Rod seems slow as fuck though. I wish he'd release a beta version at least.
>>344414190
The only hard part of that was dealing with the fucking swarm of bush enemies and shy guys. After that it did get better.
>>344420187
There's a few amazing romhacks out for Super Mario RPG that you could play in the meantime, called Revolution and Armageddon. The latter is insanely hard.
>>344420572
Well, the appeal is the challenge, so avoiding fights would kind of defeat the point.
>>344420587
Apparently most major features are done and they finally cracked the audio encoding so custom music and SFX will be a thing as well.
>>344420017
>lusting after someone whos taken
>lusting after a friends girl
kys
Also
>people actually liked gombella
TTYD was great but the more I played it the more I missed PM64.
Goombario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goombella
>>344416262
i like the additional flame-tip more
the official final designs for the rest are wwwwaaay fucking better though
>>344421106
Elaborate. Goombario doesn't even have a personality while Goombella alone had more character than Sticker Star's cast combined.
>>344420946
That's cool.
But I heard that you can't have custom partners, which is kind of lame.
>>344413257
What the fuck? I've been a Mario fan since Super Mario Bros and I fucking love Mario Maker. Splatoon can be fun too.
You're full of shit.
>>344421106
This. I love TTYD so fucking much but when it comes to PM64 it just can't beat the classic. Something about 64 just makes it better than TTYD to me, atleast.
>>344421273
>Goombella alone had more character than Sticker Star's cast combined
I liked Goombella, but that's not much of an accomplishment.
>>344421106
You can prefer Goombario all you want, he's a bro & all but Goombella was great. She had a lot of fun personality herselfand is cute.
>>344421196
Same here, the flame tip is very fitting for her attacks. I'm assuming if Vivian had that Beldam had a ice tip & Marilyn had a electric tip making them all look elemental.
>>344421358
Ignore him.
>>344421408
Something about PM64 makes it unplayable garbage to me. Like I genuinely had a better time playing SS and that was a terrible game, but at least they didn't force me to bring along a bunch of zero-note partners and listen to dull post-ironic dialogue.
>>344421285
Partners are complicated because apparently a lot of partner stuff is hard coded in game.
The maker mentioned that if you were dedicated enough, you could probably jury rig it (replacing sprites, dialogue, moves, etc) but even then he has no idea how overworld partner abilities functions so that's a limit.
He did mention there is a "spare" partner slot in the games code that someone might be able to use with enough work.
>>344408976
>>344417130
Is this some type of HD texture pack I'm not aware of, or is this something in Dolphin? Shit looks nice.
>>344421716
(You)
>>344421408
Personally I prefer the artstyle and gameplay of TTYD but PM beats TTYD out with chapter consistency and music. Both are some of my favorite games of all time.
>>344421273
>no personality
Have you ever read his tooltips and conversations? He was basically the really booksmart squire that looked up to you. Gombella mostly made vapid comments,flirt or say useful info half of the time she had to say something about how pretty or ugly something is. Ruined the mood tbqh while goombario most of the time said thing based on the adventure with some slight family talk like someone who missed home after adventuring for a while.
>>344421408
The game had a much better story and flow. The areas were more varied and the dungeons were great. TTYD had the gameplay and graphics and thats it.
>>344421497
>She had a lot of fun personality herself and is cute.
Figured she was just a cutsey female partner. Koops had much more to offer and he had some actual development.
>>344421812
I think that's the base game, I replayed it recently and the artstyle still holds up super fucking well.
The paper mario series is the poster child for why artstyle is more important than graphical fidelity.
>>344421358
>I love mario maker
Evidently, you love paper mario color splash too.
>>344421939
>He was basically the really booksmart squire that looked up to you
So he was basically a lifeless textbox which doesn't insult you. That's what I said, no personality.
Meanwhile the things about Goombella that bother you and only you is what makes her come alive as a character to the rest of us.
>>344421716
>post-ironic
What the hell does that even mean?
>>344421812
>>344422026
It's a HD texture pack. It looks great for the most part. The only thing I noticed so far is that the Black Yoshi HD icon is still low quality.
https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-paper-mario-ttyd-hd-texture-pack-v0-8a-may-18-2016
>>344422074
Nope. I've always been for the RPG Paper Mario games.
>>344422026 Nah mang, it isn't. I just replayed TTYD recently myself, and while the artstyle still looks great, I know >>344417130
isn't exactly how it looked. That looks more similar to Sticker Star, or SPM's textures and colors. That looks too high res and the textures are slightly different as well.
>>344422196
>that 1080p
Anon please my cock can only get so erect.
I loved being able to explore the mushroom kingdom, but I hate turn based combat.
>>344422307
Ah, you're right, I was only looking at OP image.
Is there a way to get TTYD on my Wii U?
>>344420017
Underrated PM girl tbqh.
>>344422162
Its either you're fishing for (you)s or you feel to defend your waifu by spreading lies even another anon said that he preferred her more for being a qt which is cool but don't say goombario is lifeless.
Jeez i'm just arguing an opinion no need to spread bullshit.
>>344422449
Hack Wii mode. Install Nintendon't.
>>344421716
>>344422252
same person
>>344422191
Earthbound, Undertale and the first Paper Mario. Do you need specific examples or can I assume you've actually played the game?
>>344422317
It looks great right? I don't recommend the widescreen hack part though, there are a lot of issues with it still when it comes to aligning, loading zones & cutscenes (due to black bars that appear on the top & bottom screen).
>>344422449
Hack the Wii side of your Wii U & get Nintendon't. It allows you to play Gamecube games off your SD card in 1080p. You can even use a Gamecube controller if you have the adapter. Go to the Homebrew General on /vg/ for more info.
>Post yfw you "beat" chapter 4 for the first time in TTYD
>>344422449
I think it might be possible with putting homebrew/Nintendon't and the like on your system. I know GCN games aren't and never will be on the Wii U.
>>344422412
>>344422196
Ah shit, I knew it. Shit looks real nice, I'd probably use that when I replay TTYD again. I never did finish my recent run where I did BP only. I stopped because I'm a badge stealing faggot and I wanted some P-Up D-Downs from Elite X-Nauts. Gotta pick that shit back up.
>>344422617
How does Paper Mario belong in that category?
>>344422658
>Tfw when it's been 12 years
>Tfw you can't remember yfw you "beat" that or any chapter for the first time
>>344422617
You made me even more confused and I didn't even ask what post-ironic meant.
>>344422939
You know what time it is. Time toreplay the game
>44 posters
Vocal minority.
>>344422473
It's hardly an opinion, anyone confused can easily just compare these two
http://www.mariowiki.com/Paper_Mario_bestiary
http://www.mariowiki.com/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door_bestiary
>>344423021
>Time to replay the game
I do it yearly (and actually slowly have been lately with the HD texture pack), it doesn't help me remember the first time though.
>>344423026
go look up trailers, the metacritic score and opinions on other sites, everyone fucking hates SS and doesn't think much of CS
>>344413702
it was comic sans that didn't look like complete shit
>>344423026
eh it's early in America
>>344423031
>TTYD's bestiary
Why are there so many recolors?
>>344423264
>>344423346Ignore him & filter him out by typing "Sticker Star final boss.jpg" in the filtered field.Also /v/ isn't the only place mad, so 48 IPs here specifically doesn't matter much.
>>344423420
TTYD was rushed. Hence why we have a lot of padding/backtracking.
If the team were given proper time, then the game would probably be much better.
PMfags
>I just prefer 64, you know? It has a feel and I hate backtracking
TTYDfags
>well, literally everything is better
I respect 64fags, because defending TTYD takes 0 effort
>>344424128
Yeah, it's not hard to have a preference when it comes to 64 or TTYD (I prefer 64 in my case). They're both exceptional video games in their own ways.
>>344424128
PM has a superior soundtrack and the chapters are more consistent (Mostly in regards to backtracking).
TTYD has better partners, gameplay, and visuals but it's not flawless.
>>344423031
The tattle lines are similar although goombella has more of a feminine flair to some of the tattles. The tattles aren't the best point since TTYD was a sequel and had more enemies to squeeze some flavor in. You also have to consider the character inquiry/convos and area descriptions.
>>344424416
>a reasonable 64fag
N-nani?!
>mfw realizing how much fucking dialogue goombella must have since she has unique lines for every fucking NPC and screen
>looking at the HD screenshots in this thread
Is it time for a replay, /v/?
>>344424693
Absolutely, anon.
>>344424693
It's always time for a replay, Anon, especially with the HD texture pack in mind, just don't go widescreen.
>tfw finished chapter 1 of ttyd last night
holy shit why is this game so much fun. I regret not playing it so long ago
I wonder why it took so long for PM64 romhacks to be a thing
>>344426689
More complex stuff I guess.
I'm pretty hype for star rod.
>>344426689
Probably a lack of interest. A lot of popular games don't get much attention when it comes to rom hacking. Most of the time it's Super Mario World & Super Mario 64. Other semi-popular/known ones are A Link to the Past, Super Metroid & Super Mario Bros and all of those besides SM64 are 2D so 3D is even harder to do.
>There will never be another toad as strong as The Master
>>344424798
>>344424784
Alright anons.
I may be a retard, but I grabbed a TTYD iso off of emuparadise, but dolphin says it isn't valid, am I missing something really obvious?
>>344427338
no idea why that would be the case. It's where I got my iso from.
If you get the iso to work here are some things that'll fix any graphical issues you may have: https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door
>>344427227
>Prince Mush,
I felt so jipped there was never a fight w/ him
>>344427227
>tfw fought his last form by mistake
>fought that big-ass koopa by mistake
I need to stop mashing through menus and thinking foes are easy. I usually equip the lucky and the badge that boosts attack when on low hp and just super bounced on the master and that big koopa I just cheesed it with sleeping items but I didn't know you had to hit him on the tail until MUCH later.
>>344427601
Man, a prince mush fight and a reworked glitz pit would have been fucking great.
>>344427879
>Kent C. Koopa
Fuck that nigger. Objectively harder than Bowser.
>>344428019
He's weak as hell to Lullaby though. Once he's asleep you can easily fuck him up with Power Bouncing.
Paper Mario 2 battle system is stellar but its overworld for chapters is extremely linear.
A remaster of paper Mario 64 with TTYD battle system and color splash art style would be dope.
>>344421106
>not being the alpha in an NTR situation
>being this beta
>>344428172
I agree. Stylish was so hype.
>mfw using a hammer attack and doing the full stylish combo
Reminder
>>344420232
3:03
Where IS that music from? It's been a while since I've played the game, but it sounds familiar.
>>344428613
B L U N D E R
>>344428748
The music plays when you're about to fuck the Big Lantern Ghost up in Shy Guy's Toybox.
>>344427601
>>344427980
It was planned according to the text dump of the game.
>>344428613
Those Wii and 3DS sales are pretty bad considering how much they've sold compared to the 64 and Gamecube.
>>344429597
If you look at attach rate I think it's something like
64 ~2%
TTYD ~4-5%
SPM/SS ~1%
>>344428613
>>344429849
I can only imagine how badly CS is going to do. It's a game no one wants on a console no one wanted.
>>344430227
Someone else made this to predict it & compare it (and the other games) to 3DS sales.
>>344428019
>>344428142
Yeah just put him to Sleep, Jump Charge, kick his ass with Power Bounce, repeat.
Did you guys know, a Horsetail is hidden in this..whatever you call this thing if you hit it 10 times?
>>344431143
Why hasn't there been a Paper Mario game at AGDQ for quiet some time? They are interesting as fuck, especially 64
>>344431357
No idea, maybe we'll TTYD next ADGQ, Palace Skip while nerve racking to do in RTA was found recently after all.
>>344431143
Ol' Wonky hints at it if you talk to him. I loved the conversations with him and Russ T. A lot of lore and backstory explained.
>>344416257
all I could think of when I saw that pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNDHiWCFmmA
>>344408976
No thanks I'm good
>>344431673
>these annotations
>>344431654
I love the story of the four heroes.
>>344431673
this is some vintage youtube right here
WHERE THE FUCK IS PAPER LUIGI IN THE WAFFLE KINGDOM NINTENDO
>>344432870
>wanting to play a story already explained in full
I will never understand Paper Luigi fags.
>>344432870
In the same drawer with Wind Waker 2 and F-Zero GX-2.
>>344433126
>Wind Waker 2
Phantom Hourglass
>>344433584
No, Wind Waker 2 was a thing, then it got turned into Twilight Princess.
>>344433126
>>344433675
Was GX-2 a thing?
>>344433940
Nah, I was just being an ass.
But Wind Waker 2 was being worked on.
>>344433940
There was AX, but not an actual follow up to GX
>>344433075
His story sounded much more fun than mario's one. Experiencing it first hand would be a blast.
>>344428504
>Stylish with a Power Smash
It felt so satisfying every time.
>>344434679
But you already know what happens. Half of the fun of playing something like TTYD is experiencing the story for the first time. Making a Paper Luigi would be the dumbest thing Nintendo could do.
>>344434838
Fuck yes my nigga
>>344434838
nice
what would you do /v/?
>>344435175
D I S G U S T I N G
>>344411192
I actually think it looks fun even though you're being condescending. It's disappointing as a sequel, but judging it on its own it looks interesting at least.
>>344435418
>intresting
It doesn't to me, it looks like a chore simulator with homogenized cookie cutter everything
>>344435175
I wonder how many people got foot fetishes from her.
>>344435542me
Will Mario ever get back to the level of a horny computer contriving reasons to see Princess Peach naked?
>>344437047
nice
>>344435989
SPM was great
What do you think of this cute boy?
>>344435989
I highly doubt it. We may get some risque lines here & there at most from a random Toad but nothing too crazy.
>>344421106
>kys
fuck off underage
>>344416679
kirby
>>344435034
so replaying a game is shit then too huh? wrong its a blast stfu
>>344441332
In the context of games that have enjoyable stories, then yes, it's shittier than playing a game for the first time, underage. Come back when you're old enough to post here.
>>344434838
i didnt even know this exists till now
>>344438919
I would.
>>344416257
Cut Man
>>344440496
If doo*liss couldn't do it Kirby certainly can't
>>344424798
>Nigger Yoshi
I am so sorry
>>344429579
False.
>>344413545
Uhhhh what if it IS a mystery tough guy
>>344428172
>color splash art style
No, fuck you.
>>344444481
Then I'll be surprisedbut it still won't save the game.
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/07/07/nintendo-says-that-paper-mario-color-splashs-story-may-make-you-cry/
>it's real
How they can possibly do it bros?????
>>344444702
It will make paper mario fans cry of disappointment.
>>344413545
>They're trying to keep it a "mystery" even though it's fucking obvious.
I doubt it, every main villain of Paper Mario is usually on the front of the box and appears in the first minutes of the game. If they're hiding it then it's really got to be a mystery.
Though it's going to be spoiled almost instantly upon release
>>344445007
Fuck off, Cody. Koopalings, bowser tape everywhere, the bland-ness only means that bowser is the only villain.
If anything a twist would be if Bowser had a magic partner thing like a counterpart to huey, but even so it would be really lame.
>>344445007
Sticker Star didn't have Bowser on the front.
>>344445252
That'd still be better than Grodus or Count Bleck you shitter.
>Fuck off, Cody
Who?
>>344445252Ignore him.
>>344423280
It was called "Hey Gorgeous!" font. Much more rounded than Comic Sans
Yo I just got the first star(the first dungeon with the 4 koopas and etc) but the game didn't reeeeally click for me yet...does it get better?
>>344445801
I say it picks up a lot more around Chapter 3, it may not just be for you though.
>>344445801
Play the game and find out
>>344445801
Something tells me you're skipping the text. If you don't like it so far, it may not be for you.
Try to keep going through chapter 2 and 3 and see if you like it.
>>344445485
In rare defense of Sticker Star, its marketing and trailers still did not try to hide the fact that its Bowser.
>>344445252
You need to stop with your Barney 2.0 shitposting.
>>344448492
It would help if he didnt show up in every fucking thread
I've only played the N64 game, is TTYD actually better than that?
>>344449308
Some think so. You should definitely give it a try.
>>344449308
It's a tough choice, the threads are generally torn on that. TTYD adds a shitload to the battle formula and has a grander story & characters. You'll most likely like it if you like the original, it suffers from backtracking though at points. Still a very great game though.
>>344449308
PM64 is better but not by much, and they're both in the top 10 games ever made anyway.
TTYD's bad pacing and backtracking in every other chapter really hurts its replay value. PM64 has a slow start but that once it's over the pacing gets good.
A reminder that if it wasn't for Miyamoto, Mario would've never existed. So don't blame him and use him as a scapegoat to what happened to the new Paper Mario games.
We might as well talk about the games.
Favorite boss fight?
>>344450092
This was one of the best battles in 64
>>344449308
People are gonna call me bait or whatever but I genuinely think N64 paper mario is horrible compared to the sequel.
Combat is way too simple, in particular partners are very under developed
It has too much talking to just be an action/adventure game but not nearly enough talking for it to be interesting or worth the time spent
Majority of the levels are straight lines where you walk from left to right and somtimes theres a secondary path where you still walk left to right. toy box and flower fields break up the pattern by letting you walk left OR right in a straight line
There's basically no exploration or sidequesty stuff you expect from an rpg. There's the sewers (expanded heavily in the sequel) and like two bonus bosses
It's an RPG with extremely limited and shallow RPG mechanics, it's a story game with a story just barely more complicated then super mario world and it's an exploration/adventure game without any real puzzles or exploration on top of being on the worst nintendo system ever made.
The only real defense people have for it are to shit on the sequel when PM64 is itself an extremely disappointing sequel to SMRPG or talk about how "comfy" it is as if that means anything.
>>344450054
I blame way more than Miyamoto like Tanabe & the new staff at Intelligent Systems but just because someone created something doesn't mean they can't fuck up & drag it down.
>>344450092
Boss: General Guy
Mini-Boss:Jr. Troopa
>>344450224
Good tastes.
>>344444702
they've already made me cry
>>344450224
The Toy Box was the best chapter on PM. I'll give you that.
>>344450092
>mfw his second form
>>344450092
Probably Huff n' Puff.
Not because he had the best dialogue or whatever, but because as a kid he gave me so much trouble.
Beating him felt so fucking good.
>>344451354
You never tried a pow block?I didn't, some kid in my school told me to do it
>>344434838
I remember doing a jump attack on a first strike and Mario did a flip before landing. I literally screamed OH SHIT and learned how to do it with the badge. It's literally ingrained in my fingers to pull stylish moves every single time.
>>344450847
>I blame way more than Miyamoto like Tanabe & the new staff at Intelligent Systems but just because someone created something doesn't mean they can't fuck up & drag it down.
I guess you have a point, but be thankful that Mario exists anyway if it weren't for him. Also, that's good that you're not blaming him entirely on neo-Paper Mario
>>344451354
>try to use the lighting strike item to kill all of his cloud babies in one go
>he heals
>>344451504
POW blocks don't affect flying enemies.
>>344451504
Don't Pow Blocks only hurt enemies on the ground & ceiling? A fire flower sounds like a better idea if that's the case.
Also he has dope ass music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQLeMEPS7Cc
>>344451848
Never knew that happens but that does make sense, he charges up with electric after all.
>>344451532
Of course I'm thankful for him, just because someone (hypothetically speaking) goes down in quality doesn't mean their past work & accomplishes are gone.
>post yfw the first time you killed an Amazee-Dayzee
>all those star points
>>344416602
Given that we all agree the backtracking is excessive, what content would we put in it's place?
Boss refight challenges?
Not really a plot thing but would be a nice feature.
>>344443954
Huh. It's been a while since I've played it.
>>344416602
Backtracking is a necessity if you want an RPG with paper marios point of view that doesn't devolve into "walk from left to right" like 90% of the areas in PM64 or SPM did
>>344452063
>Of course I'm thankful for him, just because someone (hypothetically speaking) goes down in quality doesn't mean their past work & accomplishes are gone.
Then I'm glad to see someone with respect about the situation on here. Mostly people will keep on bitching about Miyamoto and neo-Paper Mario whenever I make my statement.
>>344452453
I want the ability to have a rematch with Jr. Troopa, he was such a dick tease in that 1 Mailbox SP e-mail. Also Prince Mush should've been added to Glitzville like many would agree on. Also when it comes to Chapter 4 this >>344417819 >>344417996 >>344418339 should've happened. The General White thing should've had him sleeping in his bed after you got permission from Goldbob so in future playthroughs you wouldn't have to go through the trouble of backtracking everywhere.
>>344428504
The black and white makes it look the athlete is naked except for the number label.
best paper mario fight[\spoiler]
>>344450583
Dry Dry Ruins had some loops and alternate points. Some.
Dry Dry Desert, Boo Mansion and Tubba Blubba's castle and Jade Jungle all encourage exploration, unlike the Flower Fields.
>>344415180
My god that part about "ikuno" mentioning his kid is recently into painting, and that painting should be put into paper mario... cause your child is currently into it?!?! What the actual fuck?This triggers me badly. Dont go to work as a game dev if you are going to use your retarded child to come up with your gameplay mechanics, and for a beloved series of all things.
Its like if i had a kid who likes marbles, and I was a high up dev at bethesda, making ES6, so i decide to make it all about MARBLES!!! No more level ups. No more lore. No more open world. Just collect fucking marbles.
>>344408976
Dead franchise thread?
>>344454337And just like that, he's a breeze.
>>344454387
>even giving that poor bait a (you)
im judging you
I wish people would stop this SHIGGY DINDU NUFFIN meme.
He's the reason there's only mainline Mario characters in Sticker Star.
>>344454756
I get your point but it's not a bad idea if you want to add something to the game, paint is atleast something applied to paper. Hell if i'm not mistaken, paper mario was created only because someone liked a designers paper themed sketches at work.
>tfw you git gud enough to learn the superguard timing for every attack
>>344454756
Someone will probably shout at you for saying that kid's tastes shouldn't influence games that kids can play. That's not what you're trying to say, but it sounds a bit like it so people will exploit that.
The issue you're pointing at is that Ikuno is essentially corrupting the dev process, by letting one child have disproportionate pull over a game's content. Order is replaced with favour.
>>344455090
If I told you I had written up a bullet-point analysis of all the TTYD partners in combat, would that earn your forgiveness?
>>344455609
Yes
>>344455159
The mainline Mario series has a massive range of characters. And to be honest the designs of the Mario enemies that have never been in any of the RPGs are better than the 100% unique characters Intelligent Systems made for the Paper Mario games.
I like that in Color Splash they're making use of the Draggadon from Captain Toad.
>>344455159
Not to defend him fully but they could've used plenty of other characters in the game. The Mario world is filled with so many characters & enemies after all, PM64 (had some new characters, but generally it used the main ones) & Paper Jam were a good representations of it.
>>344455609
Post it
What do you guys even discuss in these threads? It's been 9 years since the last decent game. Just bitch about the new ones, I guess?
>>344416257
Popeye
>>344456031
Goombella
+ Headbonk and Multibonk are straight copies of Mario's Jump and Multibounce, and are useful for exactly the same reasons (reach most enemies, flip shells and clip Para/broomsticks, easy to gain damage bonuses due to multiple strikes)
+ Rally Wink is an excellent way to boost Mario's output and is a god-send in a Mario-centric team build, as well as yielding general versatility
+/- Tattle is invaluable when first playing the game or if playing blind, and the character this one free move imparted is a source of much fondness for the PM series. However, it isn't necessary for certain team builds or replays, can be made redundant with foreknowledge and the Peekaboo badge, and ultimately means Goombella only has three combat skills to bring to the table when all other partners have four
- All attacks make exposed contact, leaving Goombella very vulnerable to fire, spikes, electricity and rarer hazards (Charged Puffs, Bob-ombs with lit fuses); as Goombella deals damage in multiple contacting blows, contact hazards will interrupt her attacks and massively reduce her damage
- Overall low damage, no statuses or special effects
Koops
+ Only partner with native defense, coming in handy as a shield
+ Ignores most contact hazards when attacking due to shell
+ Can strike all ground and low-hovering enemies cheaply with Power Shell
+ Can *penetrate defenses* in addition to the above with Shell Slam (plus a bit more damage)
+ Can provide Mario with a strike-counting Shell Shield, which counts number of hits rather than damage - this is invaluable against enemies that charge up to make powerful, rare blows
+/- Somewhat low base/FPless power, dealing damage all in one chunk. While this means enemy defense is less punishing, this is moot given the attacks' non-flipping nature. Meanwhile getting offensive bonuses proves difficult.
- Capable of being flipped as with all Koopa Troopas, leaving him defenseless and inactive for several turns
- Low health
con.
>>344456471
I was worried this would be an issue, but talk has been breddy decent lately
>>344456503
- Incapable of striking airborne enemies by any means
- Defense-piercing Shell Slam is a little expensive as it includes the ground-sweeping attack as well; so the ability is redundant in cost unless used against multiple foes
Flurry
+ High HP, making her an excellent buffer
+ Lip Lock pierces defense and recovers as much HP to Flurry as she deals damage, granting excellent utility and synergising excellently with her high HP
+ Attacks can strike any enemy anywhere on the pitch, granting high versatility
+ Dodgy Fog grants a defensive bonus to herself/other partners and Mario for several turns, at a cheap price for middle-length encounters
+ Gust attack Gale Force can cheaply end many encounters, where enemies would provide little to no star points and/or pointlessly waste the team's resources and time. Enemies blown away still leave coins and items, and no First/Bump Attack badges are needed. Exceptionally useful in the Pit, and highly effective against airborne foes.
+/- Somewhat low base/FPless power, dealing damage all in one chunk. While this means enemy defense is less punishing, this is moot given the attacks' non-flipping nature. Meanwhile getting offensive bonuses proves difficult.
- All attacks are exposed contact, leaving Flurrie vulnerable to contact hazards
- No means of attacking multiple enemies
- Overall low damage
- It becomes expensive to maintain Dodgy Fog over protracted encounters
- Gale Force is useless in boss encounters or when earning SP is vital
Yoshi Kid
+ Attacks deal damage in many 1-piece chunks, making the 'Kid extraordinarily receptive to damage upgrades
+ Basic attack Ground Pound is basically an even-jumpier Jump, as it deals all but one of its damage points after flipping shelled enemies (two if against Paratroopas/Parabuzzies) and earns mega damage from bonuses
+ Stampede strikes all non-high-up enemies and is non-contact
>>344456471
We reminisce over the good ones.
>>344456653
+ Mini-Egg attack can blunt enemy damage output for several turns, and is useful and FP-efficient against both groups of enemies reliant on mass damage and against sole powerhouse targets
+ Gulp is resistant to most hazards, pierces defense and damages two enemies at a time
- Techniques are all FP-intensive
- Damage bonuses are as easily lost as they are gained; enemies only need a single point of unmitigated defense to nullify Yoshi's non-Gulp output
- Gulp is expensive and inefficient without two targets, and is still vulnerable to some contact hazards
- Only the basic attack Ground Pound can reach enemies in the air, and it involved exposed contact
- Mini-Egg is unreliable against large groups, as the random target selection may leave key enemies uneffected
Vivian
+ All attacks set enemies on fire, a useful and nasty wee status effect that pays dividends in the long run
+ Fiery damage makes Vivian strong against Ice enemies
+ All attacks can strike any enemy anywhere on the pitch, granting high versatility
+ Fiery Jinx strikes all enemies without contact and sets them on fire
+ Charm attack Infatuate can render many enemies inactive or detrimental to their team for several turns
+ Hide technique Veil is practically free and excellent when facing enemies with dangerous charge attacks
+/- Infatuate isn't guaranteed to cause an effect, unlike Dodgy Fog; Dodgy Fog's success increases turn count rather than likelihood of effect. Charm lasts longer by default, but is dependent on enemy vulnerability, and loses value if new enemies can be summoned or generated, or revived.
+/- Somewhat low base/FPless power, dealing damage all in one chunk. While this means enemy defense is less punishing, this is moot given the attacks' non-flipping nature. Meanwhile getting offensive bonuses proves difficult.
cont.
>>344456737
+/- Enemies made of fire are healed by Vivian's attacks, and if overhealed can even generate new enemies. This sucks balls when you want them dead, but can be useful as an SP, coin and item-farming mechanism.
- Basic attack Shade Fist is exposed contact
- Techniques are all FP-intensive
- Some enemies are fireproof and take little to no damage from Vivian's attacks, as well as aforementioend fire-based enemies being healed
- Some enemies are also immune to psych-conditions like Confuse, and as this group overlaps with fireproof some enemies are basically proof against Vivian altogether
- Relying on fire for damage is unviable in the short term
Bobbery
+ Highest damage output in the game, as well as baseline damage from Bomb
+ All attacks deal high damage to firey enemies, instant death explosive enemies and flip any target (including clefts etc.)
+ Basic attack Bomb is largely contactless and all other attacks are non-contact
+ Bob-ombast strikes every enemy on the pitch for massive damage
+ Counterblast technique Hold Fast can rack up impressive damage against groups of contacting enemies for efficient FP
+ Highest HP in the game, which combines very well with Hold Fast; Bobbery is an almost-literal tank
+/- Bulky Bob-ombs and Bob-ulks are set off by Bobbery's attacks, which will in turn set off every other one on the field. This can cause possibly large amounts of damage to the party, but also finishes off these threats potentially before they charge up and become fully dangerous and finishes off other enemies as well. Once these foes have fully charged, Bobbery is a liability as he cannot deal non-explosive damage.
- Highest FP demanding party member overall, especially for Bobombast
- Bob-ombast is inefficient unless faced with a large group of enemies
- Bob-ombast is the only means of striking airborne foes
- Timer bomb technique Bomb Squad is honestly a bit shit, very niche in use
cont.
>>344456843
- Counter-technique Hold Fast depends on enemies making contact damage, is inefficient against less than three such foes
Ms. Mowz
+ ALL of her attacks ignore defense
+ Generally low-FP usage, making the Squeek-Theef very efficient and convenient
+ Kiss Thief can take items directly visible in battle, which a) prevents enemies from using them up to their own aid or benefiting from Badge bonuses in the fight, b) removes the uncertainty of item drop, and c) in the case of normal items, grants access to their use for party in the very battle rather than merely in later fights
+ Kiss Thief can also take items in general, which would happen anyway as a drop but lets the team use them early
+ Tease can cheaply leave enemies unreliable, especially airborne foes
+ Smooch heals Mario by 10 HP and straight-up converts FP to HP sans-tax
+/- Tease is similar to Vivian's Charm. Tease is cheaper and more likely to effect Airborne foes, but Charm can damage the enemy side or waste their resources and generally lasts longer.
- Lowest damage of all of Mario's partners
- Low HP
- Only one source of damage, which is both ground-bound AND makes exposed contact, leaving Ms. Mowz both weak AND unversatile
- Furthermore, audience members actively DISLIKE basic attack Love Slap, leaving the throng and awarding few star points
- Kiss Thief is also ground-bound exposed contact, severely limiting Ms. Mowz's range of targettable foes
- Smooch is not cheap for its effect, and cannot be used conveniently under all circumstances
And that's that. Crit+comm welcome.
>>344411518
>koopas have big beaks
It all adds up, I always knew Nintendo were nazi's.
>>344456471
Plenty of threads lately are usually about the development of Sticker Star & Color Splash and how shitty & disappointing they arewith some shitposting about Cody/Pretenautist.Some are like these where we talk about how great the old ones are, show our excitement about the ability to hack the N64 one soon, some show off their WIP on their fan games like pic related and we usually just post the usual "What's your favorite X?".Also some are just waifu & porn threads since Goombella, Vivian, Bow, the boo twins & more are fuckable.
>>344456989
I didn't know fire could make fire enemies multiply!
Also, huh, they hate that love slap?
>>344457185
Their beaks are actually bigger in Sticker Star.
>>344457221
What are top and bottom left?
>>344457236
Yeah, it's a mechanism used for farming SP and coins in both games. Only works on enemies MADE of fire, like Lava Bubbles.
Love Slap hits the target enemy multiple times, but only the final slap deals damage. The audience dislikes it whenever one of the team's moves deals no damage, so those warmup slaps actually elicit boos from the audience and causes some to flee. You only get like 3 bits of star power from a typical audience after using Love Slap, it's brutally harmful if you're trying to build up the gauge for a power.
How much of this was deliberate on the designer's part is hard to say, but it's a cool feature for a partner nonetheless. Ms. Mowz is meant to be pretty annoying, and it seems the audience agrees.
>>344457737
Have old devwork with a similar schnozzsize for PM.
>>344434838
It's too bad we can't post webms without sound.
Tornado Jump Stylish is the greatest thing ever.
>>344457748
Top-left is something that's posted here from time to time & is from this random guy on twitter (has no relation to the threads, it's just a inspired game someone found one day and posted here a few times): https://twitter.com/adamgryu
Bottom-left is from a Anon who occasionally posts his updates in these threads on a new Paper Mario game which we help give a lot of input. He has no blog so Nintendo won't give him a C&D. Currently he seems real busy to work on it.
I tried playing this game once.
I beat it in two sittings. A lot of fun. TTYD never roped me in like the first game.
>>344435989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkZmoa_mqLk
>>344438919his tail is his schlong
>>344457990
Parakarry was my favorite.
>>344458128
can post youtube links tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s68brsIljVU&t=1m15s
>>344457221
I wonder if we are going to see what happened with Undertale happen with Paper Mario.
Nintendo ditching one of their smaller, fan loved franchises ( Mother ) only to have a indie dev take up the reigns and make something that is just as good.
>>344444702
I'm interested.
We'll just have to see, I'll buy it and write-up how it holds up. I'm not a biased person.
Full comparison, but I'm trying to decide whether to bite the bullet and play through Sticker Star or just watch it to learn what was the problem in depth.
>>344458936
>something that is just as good
Try again
>>344459056
If you're curious on issues Anons have listed it over time (some bad in comparison to the older games & some just bad on their own). Anyways, I recommend playing it over watching it to see how it is, an issue with it after all is not knowing what Thing sticker to use on what at times. I sure as hell know I got lost on it after all.
>>344458936
I feel that this is already happening in same way.
>>344458859
I forgot how baller Koops' stylish moves were.
>>344434838
after I played this, years later I replayed PM1 and reflexively tried to style on my opponents. It was such a fun little addition.
What is the most surreal place in all of Paper Mario and why is it Shooting Star Summit?
>>344460125
Crystal Palace.
I tried to emulate it on Dolphin 5.0 and it ran extremely well except for small things. The textures for the billion little shits that jump you after the first fight on the docks didn't show up, but their shadows did.
I'm assuming more like this happens later, is there a fix?
>>344460390
Bounding box thingy, try messing with the settings. I think.
>>344460125
Gotta agree with >>344460190 Shooting Star Summit definitely was up there though. The music for both of those areas are just so unforgettable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq-FeJ0scXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6I-n7xK03A
>>344460390
Read https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door for fixes.
>>344411798
dude, super paper mario is awful. The turn based attack was so much more fun.
I have given up so much on Nintendo that I didn't even know a new Paper Mario game was coming out for the WiiU, why are you all so pessimistic?
Paper Mario 64 & TTYD were my favourite games btw
TTYD is much better gameplay wise, but 64 has the superior atmosphere and if Im honest a tiny bit of a nostalgia bonus
>>344422628
Is Nintendont really capable of using the Wii U's higher specs in Wii mode? I'm impressed if so.
>>344459513
I think there's something poetic about the name Sticker Star. Everything of "merit" to the game is just slapped on, totally superficial. The papercraft of 64 and TTYD is something that seems simplistic but then evolves outwards into many projected layers, and SS is the opposite.
>>344460493
>>344460550
cool, thanks anons
>>344460550
Close second, I honestly prefer the climb, Starborn Valley and meeting Merluvlee more. The palace's puzzles can annoy you at first
>>344460924
Because Color Splash is nothing like TTYD or 64.
>>344416257
A lighter
>>344460921
Nah, it has its failures but ultimately was fun. Just not what we wanted from the franchise.
If SPM had been followed by a return to the norm, and we had had two more games like that since, people would respect SPM as a fun spinoff game and would be interested in another. Instead we have our current lopsided predicament.
>>344461121
Sorry for the ignorance, but we know that why?
>>344460921
SPM's gameplay may had been shit but it's story, music and characters were some of the best in the series especially its story
>>344445485
i forgot how ugly that box art was
>>344461215
Because we've seen footage. It's Sticker Star U, it lacks all the charm of the previous games.
>>344460924
>>344461215
You poor Anon, many would agree on Paper Mario got ruined with Sticker Star's release & the new one is using the same gameplay as Sticker Star (based on the reveal "trailer", the E3 trailer & 44-minute longer demonstration they had at E3), it's why most of us are so pessimistic & bitchy. Read >>344459513 if you never played Sticker Star.
>>344461327
Imo Paper Mario got ruined by Super Paper Mario, never touched Sticker Stars because of that reason,
This is really, really sad, because for a few seconds I was excited and had some hope. Why does Nintendo do this? It's not like we are a small minority and the big casual audience wants another Sticker Star, all of us think the same way.
I guess I'm going to stick to replaying the first two games. Those were true masterpieces.
>>344455159
But it's true.
Shiggy was okay with people using characters from Super Mario mainline (Piantas, Lumas, Bob-ombs). Also, his least favorite character is Toad, so he definitely didn't wanted CS having lack of characters.
He did say a complex story was not needed, but let's be real here. What Paper Mario game didn't have the samey "collect 7 stars/hearts to save the world/Peach" repetitive story? People keep saying the games have a great story, but they are just generic.
Combat system with stickers was one of Tanabe's ideas. If Shiggy really said it was just too much like TTYD or not, it doesn't matter, because SS was already in danger with Tanabe.
Miyamoto had NOTHING to do with SS's development, except give some suggestions, and that's it. Tanabe is definitely the one to blame, not Miyamoto.
>>344460924
You know that 3DS Paper Mario that everyone hated?
Nintendo learned absolutely nothing from that mistake.
What's your favourite pre-dungeon area?
>>344456989
that was great! Which partner is your favorite/objectively best??Do the partners for Sticker Star next desu
>>344462410
>partners for Sticker Star
>>344462292
Shiver City
>>344462570
Fuck that lady I hated her even as a kid trying to falsify shit she knew wasn't true on you
>>344462292
Somehow I forgot image. I can't even post it anyway, it's way too large. Here's link. http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/N64/PaperMario-Chapter2-MysteryOfDryDryRuins-DryDryDesert.png
>>344462410
All of them have plentiful uses, I like them all.
I didn't waste money on Sticker Star.
>>344461728
It's fair to think that with Super I guess, a lot dislike it, though in my opinion it came off as more of a spin-off since it was originally gonna be for the Gamecube, had different game & etc. I still found it fun though, at least that had the charm & creativity of the other 2 games though, Sticker Star just shits on all the great aspects of the older games. You dodged a bullet by not playing it & stopping at Super.
>>344462292
Gusty Gulch, it was a nice & surprising change of pace from the haunted mansion (which I already adored to begin with since I love that shit).
>>344463148
I am a fan of the aesthetics myself. http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/N64/PaperMario-Chapter3-InvincibleTubbaBlubba-GustyGulch.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weHo-_JvP9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4FGwguIPA
You're gonna use Star Rod to help make the Paper Mario we all deserve, right /v/?
>>344463676
Will this require any programming knowledge, because I don't know shit there.
>>344463989
Probably not.
The main skill you would need would be 3d modelling.
>>344461792
Shiggy may not be the cancer, but he's certainly the cause, he's not blameless in all of this.
He's also the one who thought an RPG didn't need a story (inb4 it's an action adventure LOL)
>except give some suggestions
You realize Miyamoto is pretty much the Jesus of Nintendo? if Miyamoto suggests something, they're gonna do it.
The only exception is Sakurai, he's been known to tip his fedora in Miyamoto's general direction.
If I like Sticker Star will I like the rest of the series?
>>344464342
Instead he did anything Iwata asked of him.
>>344464304
I took a 3D modelling class in high school, but I forgot just about everything.
I guess I should relearn that.
>>344408976
what was the most op
>>344464752
Well I guess we don't have to worry about that now, do we?
>>344464581
If you're new in Paper Mario, start with 64, then go for TTYD and Super.
I don't recommend SS, but if you really want to know about the game, play it, but don't expect it to be like the first two games, or else, you will be extremely dissapointed.
>>344464342
He said it wasn't important to have a Story not it didn't need one.
It's not his fault people worship him at Nintendo given his legacy. He purposely avoids giving advice to teams often because they take his word as law.
>>344465046
See, in reasons for not having a story
>>344415180
>>344463676
the first paper mario was garbage because of no dodge system
but honestly Paper Mario has been my favorite mario
>>344464987
It's coming up on a year now isn't it
Reminder that no matter how hard you fuck up. you will never fuck up like the new "devs" in charge of Paper Mario
>>344465354
Nintendo sure has had a lot of shitty female devs lately, are all of their old devs retiring or something
Super Paper Mario is one of the most underrated Nintendo games.
>>344413731
The maze of playing cards give me Persona Q vibes, not too bummed that it was removed since the environments were the best part about SS though.
Was this character a stab at /v/?
>>344465531
If by retire you mean die, sure let's go with that.
>>344464581
If you like SS you'll like anything.
>I missed a Paper Mario thread
>>344465568
>Literally has eroge in his room
Absolutely
>>344464581
I honestly don't know exactly on that, Anon. I'd imagine you would prefer the older games way more if anything but that may just be due to the fact I hate Sticker Star.
>>344465543
The environments were dull as hell to me, I would say the best part of Sticker Star was the music, that shit was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9_apmasgsklist=PL6akIKaXBeU2Z8r3Gm2kaI5Q6Emz0DRkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFp7kt4G-Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpyLWf5X8Y
>>344465568
Don't forget the game is made by a Japanese company, it was a jab at otakus. It's why he even has the swirly glasses.
>>344465354
>>344465531
To be fair, Color Splash does look better than Sticker Star at least.
>>344465771
There will probably be one tomorrow at some point.
Aside from Cody shitposting, these are probably some of the best threads on /v/.
>try to emulate TTYD recently
>Get up to Puni Tree
>Lose interest
I know the rest of the game is fucking fantastic but that Puni chapter is the worst out of both the first games
>>344458859
If only I knew when/what to press to do stylish...
>>344464342
Shiggy's the tired old piece of DNA that malfunctioned and caused the cancer. The metaphor is complete.
>>344466489
It's always the A button.
>>344465531
She seems to be a assistant of Tanabe & is learning from him so that's probably why she might be shit to you. I wonder if she'll have any role in developing Federation Force.
>>344466489
You simply Press A, think of it as a action-command in between action-commands. Use the Timing Tutor badge to find out when to press the button.
>>344465568
>Tons of references to Paper Mario lore in his room nobody but autists care about
>Complains about games he's never played
>Wants to fuck Ms. Mowz
>Wants to fuck Lady Bow
>Wants to fuck Peach
>Wants to fuck a pixelated butterfly
He's the modern Paper Mario fanbase.
>>344465531
The only good females at Nintendo are in charge of other things
Sakurai's Wife does the menus for his games, and yoko shimomura is the composer for the M&L series.
>>344466839
Shimomura is a freelancer.
>>344466596
>>344466839
The woman composer for Link's Awakening soundtrack is very good, and I think there was a women involved somewhere in Super Metroid either in music or development. Nintendo chicks have been generally positive to my knowledge.
>>344465771
>noose in the middle of Rogueport
How did Nintendo get away with selling this to children??
>>344467313
That's nothing.
Look what the Japanese version had.
>>344467313
Better question is how did they get away with that buy had to remove an outline of a dead body in the back?
>>344467313
Rogueport itself was so unmario like, gangs, crime and this >>344467372
>>344467372
>>344467460
thanks treehouse for keeping mario games free of murder even though mario regularly stomps goombas to death
>Everyone points out how Vivian is a guy.
>No one points out how the foot fetish encouraging dragon, Hooktail might be also.
https://tcrf.net/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door/Version_Differences#Character_Differences
i'm just going to pirate color splash.
>>344445007
Disregarding box arts:
In SMRPG, Smithy is known to be the final boss early on but he's not actually seen until the end.
In M&L1, Cackletta is seen in the beginning.
In M&L2, Princess Shroob is seen early on. Elder Princess Shroob isn't seen until the end but is hinted at throughout the game.
In M&L3, Fawful is seen at the beginning. The Dark Star isn't seen until halfway through the game.
In M&L4, Antasma is seen at the beginning. Bowser doesn't come up until a bit later.
In Paper Jam, Bowser and Paper Bowser are seen from the beginning.
In PM1, Bowser is seen at the beginning (introduction).
In PM2, Grodus is not seen until later on in the game (Chapter 1 interlude). The Shadow Queen only appears at the end but is hinted at throughout the game.
In PM3, Count Bleck is seen at the beginning (introduction). Dimentio is seen later on (Chapter 1).
In PM4, Bowser is seen at the beginning (introduction). If you consider Kamek and Bowser Jr. to be the true villains (since Bowser is out of his mind but they know what they're doing), they appear in Chapter 1.
So, this is what happens every time:
>Main villain appears from the beginning (Bowser, Cackletta, Count Bleck, Fawful, Antasma, Paper Bowser)
>Main villain appears a bit later (Grodus, Princess Shroob)
>Secondary villain appears a little later (either after the adventure begins or midway through the game) and is revealed to be the true villain as a twist (Dimentio, Dark Star, Kamek and Jr., Bowser (DT))
>Secondary villain is hinted to throughout the game and makes a proper appearance at the end (Smithy, Shadow Queen, Elder Princess Shroob)
Also, interesting bits about CS:
>Koopalings' master is kept a secret
>Somebody took the Big Paint Stars
>The Koopalings were sent to find them specifically
>Somebody sent a colorless Toad to Peach
>Huey is the defense system of the town but he didn't wake up until Mario and Peach got there
>>344467818
I'm just going to not play it at all, it looks terrible
>>344468046
>Koopalings' master is kept a secret
>Somebody sent a colorless Toad to Peach
There's BOWSER TAPE all over the island.
>>344467798
Hey, who said Hooktail's thing was sexual? It could be a food sort of thing, or like perfume.
>>344468136
How do you feel when you see this item, Anon?
>Hooktail will never capture you, and keep you alive to be used for sexual.
>>344468632
Good
>>344466489
It's 2 half-A presses.
>>344469064
>FUCK YOU GUYS FOR NOT LIKING OUR LAZY DESIGN CHOICES
>>344469064
why must they hurt us this way
>>344469064
Is that a fucking reference to the older games?
>>344469350
What do you think, Anon
>>344469064
Get it? It's funny because it's self-depreciating.
Haha.
>>344469064
What did it say before that?
![Paper Mario_ Color Splash - Demonstration - Nintendo E3 2016.mp4_snapshot_04.59_[2016.07.09_20.03.49].png](https://i.imgur.com/VRmlBGx.jpg "Paper Mario Color Splash - Demonstration - Nintendo E3 2016.mp4 snapshot 04.59 [2016.07.09 20.03.49]")
>>344469064
You motherfucker, you really got me for a minute there.
>>344469169
>>344469349
>>344469350
>>344469512
>>344469547
>>344465771
there's almost always one up and they're all the same anyways (although this one has been exceptionally better than most)
you'll live
>>344469617
Well now I feel silly
I really should watch more than five minutes from the demonstration so I don't get rused like this again
>>344469615
Where the fuck is Sushi
>>344469615
>Sushi, once again, is forgotten
Every damn time.
>>344469893
I wish my teeth could do that.
>>344445485
It literally has Bowser Jr and the words\ BOWSER around a toad.
>>344470143
i used to think that was his mouth
>>344470691
That must've been pretty freaky.
>>344470167
i'd fuck mimi
>>344469064
>>344469547
>>344469617
Here's the full scene for the hell of it.
>>344471012
Same here.
>>344460550
This music makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. I miss this so much.
>>344471012
Mimi would fuck YOU.
But not in her own form.
>>344471723
That's even better.
>>344471929
>spider mimi
>only four limbs
Unpure scum.
>>344468136
And only Bowser enemies. And the Koopalings are the villains.
But also somebody anonymous sent a colorless Toad to Peach to attract Mario's attention. And the Koopalings were sent to find the Paint Stars, they are not merely protecting them. So clearly there is at least one twist to anticipate.
>>344473026
Unless the twist is really good, this game is already dead on arrival.
I don't expect much from new nintendo anymore.
>>344472364
Is this better?
>>344474853
at first i thought that was a cortex reaver from system shock
>>344473026
The twist is that Bowser is gonna literally be rainbow coloured and giant(hence why he was collecting colours)
It'll be a "nod" to SS
>>344450224
Agreed. General Guy is the dopest shit.
I hope Color Splash is enjoyable on its own merits but I will not buy it until i'm sure i'd actually like to play it. Made that mistake with Sticker Star. Hell, that's why I got a 3DS. Regardless of the future of Paper Mario I take comfort in still having the first 3 games. I really liked Super myself.
>>344416679
>INFINITE POWER right there in the description
Copy paper mario and win. Easy peasy.
>>344477028
Kirby can't copy sturdy characters. Only reason he can eat waddle dees is because they're hilariously unbalanced and clumsy
>>344450092
>You end up becoming friends with him and he lets you use his ghost ship any time. Because mario is that cool with this undead pirate lord
>When his ship can finally start moving again and he helps you fuck up crump
Cortez was the best
>>344450224
>>344450847
>>344476616
This boss had some real kick-ass music, could jam to it for hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc43yeA1WNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1lhom-fv8o
I've been working on a PM clone off and on for a while now.
Except Its not "3D", overworld plays as a flat 2D platformer of sorts. Combat is similar though. Hand drawn doodle art.
I figured since theres a few other cool ass dudes making PM clones in this thread, that I'd ask:
What kind of features you guys would like with this type of game?
>>344480861
Got any screenshots?
>>344479952
What
>>344480861
Gonna need some screenshots & details on the battle system there. From the sounds of it though, it sounds more like a 2D section from the Mario & Luigi series.
>>344480861
>>344480934
>>344481215
Please anon
>>344469064
Well they certainly know we don't like it.
>>344484356
It was fake >>344469617
>>344484587
Whoops.
Well to be fair, I could see Treehouse pulling something like that
>>344408976
Koops is CUTE!
>>344487656
Taken m8.
I have been wanting to make a PM fangame for a while, but I have no idea what partners to use.
Any suggestions?
>>344488782
Hammer Bro
>>344488782
A shoe-shining goomba
>hey guys, you know how Paper Mario is loved because of its witty story, unique characters, and great battle mechanics?
>let's only use Toads
>let's give the player limited use of every move
>let's make Bowser not talk at all
>let's make a slot machine an integral battle mechanic
>let's make it so you can't change targets and can only attack the target in the frontso if it's one of those enemies with spears that change position each turn and you only have jump stickers, even if the one in the back has its spear down and you could attack it safely, you have to attack the one in the front which would result in you getting hurt aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fuck Sticker Star.
>>344488230
Has that ever stopped a waifu/husbandofag?
Ever?
>>344414190
anybody have a save file for after there?
>>344488834
>>344489070
I don't want to add partners just because, I want them to have overworld purpose.
What would these do, for example? I mean goomba tattling is pretty basic but I can't see how hammer bros could help in the overworld.
>>344491191
I imagined a Boomerang Bro could work the same way Kooper/Koops do, hitting distant switches, etc.
In battle you could throw the boomerang by inputting a button combo, then have it come back by inputting said combo in reverse order.
>>344488782
>>344491191
How about a Fire Bro instead? He could shoot flames in tiny holes or maybe over gaps to do some puzzles involving lighting things up. He could also burn things away to ashes on the overworld. I'm thinking one of his special attacks could be shooting multiple flames in the sky to hit multiple targets at once or something.
